[01:03] <LisaNori1> Curious, I keep reading about ubuntu for smartphones "coming soon", but don't bugs such as #1068994 (button 1 gets stuck) and #1091663 (3G nonfunctional) kinda hamper this?  Or are these only a problem on a nexus7 and not on nexus4?
[01:27] <infinity> LisaNori1: "soon" isn't tomorrow.
[01:27] <infinity> LisaNori1: http://blogs.wsj.com/cio/2013/02/06/ubuntu-smartphone-shipping-in-october/
[01:27] <infinity> LisaNori1: But, also, some of those bugs don't apply to the phone product, no.
[01:27] <LisaNori1> I understand.  I was just curious and trying to clarify my understanding.
[02:40] <reb> I have an ARM Chromebook running Ubuntu 12.04.  "apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager" does not work.  What are my options?
[02:41] <reb> I'm interested in the settings manager in order to turn off the behavior of the "search" key on my Chromebook keyboard.
[02:42] <reb> Possibly I just need some xmodmap magic.
[02:46] <infinity> Are you even sure you're running unity-3d?
[02:46] <infinity> If you have no binary 3d drivers, you're probably not.
[02:46] <infinity> Which means you're not using compiz.
[02:47] <infinity> Which means the regular old gnome keyboar control panel will probably fix you up.
[02:47] <infinity> Or xmodmap, yes.
[02:51] <ptl> is this the new samsung chromebook with ARM A15?
[02:55] <infinity> I assume that's what's being referred to, yes.
[02:55] <infinity> And we don't have 3d drivers for it, that I know of.
[02:55] <infinity> So, it's likely not running compiz. :P
[04:31] <ashes> i'd like to be able to plug my laptop in to my arm box with usb, and have the arm box show up as a hdd, like tablets and phones do. what do i need to read about?
[06:00] <swjh> where is the kernel .config file on ubuntu-server 12.04?
[07:27] <dholbach> good morning
[08:10] <tripelb> <woman with nexus7 seeks Ubuntu dual boot for pleasure and learning. Any race creed or age.
[08:14] <dholbach> tripelb, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation#Having_both_Android_and_Ubuntu_installed_for_dual_boot
[13:48] <ogra_> bug #1109197
[13:48] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1109197 in ac100-tarball-installer (Ubuntu) "fails to preserve mtimes" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1109197
[15:15]  * xnox ponders about fastboot in main
[16:13] <ppisati> robclark: hi, back then you pointed me to some patches to make the pvr-omap module work with upstream kernel
[16:14] <ppisati> robclark: do you know if 1) 3.8/3.9 + your patches will work?
[16:14] <ppisati> robclark: 2) can you remind me where those patches are (can't find it right now)
[16:20] <lupus_> how far ubuntu arm is from running on samsung and nexus tablets?
[16:21] <ogra_> we have an image for the nexus7
[16:21] <ogra_> no samsung not nx10
[16:21] <lupus_> :/
[16:22] <lupus_> Samsung note 10.1 here... would love to run ubuntu on this beast
[16:22] <ogra_> well, we kind of rely on having an unlockable fastboot on the device
[16:23] <ogra_> which binds us to nexus and probably asus atm
[16:23] <lupus_> yeah
[16:23] <ogra_> additionally you need working GLES Xorg drivers ....
[16:24] <lupus_> How well the nexus 7 works?
[16:24] <ogra_> mali doesnt have any that are licensed in a way we could distribute ...
[16:24] <ogra_> well, unity isnt a tablet UI at all ...
[16:24] <ogra_> beyond that fact it works quite well i'd say
[16:25] <shadeslayer> there's a meeting going on about that right now isn't there?
[16:26] <ogra_> yes
[16:26] <ogra_> in #ubuntu-meeting
[16:26] <ogra_> every friday at this time
[16:26] <shadeslayer> and I pretty much forget every friday :(
[16:26] <lupus_> well ill hope that linux would hit arm cpus, really like these silent machines
[16:27] <ogra_> ubuntu runs on arm machines since several years :)
[16:27] <ogra_> just not on many enduser devices yet, we're just starting with the nexus7
[16:27] <lupus_> yeah but like all of them, tablets etc :)
[16:27] <lupus_> heh
[16:28] <shadeslayer> without unlocked bootloaders and GPU drivers, that will be hard
[16:28] <ogra_> right, it ios limited to usable HW
[16:28] <shadeslayer> there's another tablet that I've heard about, the Archos 101XS Gen 10
[16:28] <lupus_> i had huge troubles with acer s3-931 laptop, uefi and ubuntu.. hate that new uefi boot
[16:29] <shadeslayer> has an OMAP 4470 SoC ... and has linux GPU drivers
[16:29] <robclark> ppisati, I think ndec would know if there is some activity for pvr, etc, on 3.8..
[16:30] <robclark> shadeslayer, 4470 has android support.. not so much linux support tho, unfortunately.. a pity b/c x11 would do well with the 2d core
[16:30] <ppisati> ndec: ^
[16:30] <ppisati> ndec2: ^
[16:30] <lupus_> hey, does the arm version of ubuntu have the same features than normal ubuntu?
[16:30] <shadeslayer> lupus_: mostly, there's loads of stuff that doesn't compile with GLES so it's disabled
[16:30] <ppisati> robclark: in the mean time, can you remind me where those patches are?
[16:31] <shadeslayer> well .. maybe 'loads' is the wrong word here
[16:32] <lupus_> android lacks real multitasking, so thats the main reason why i would love to have ubuntu on tablet
[16:32] <robclark> ppisati, on dev.omapzoom.org, there should be a ubuntu kernel tree.. look for the 1488 (iirc) branch.. that should be close enough to get started
[16:32]  * robclark just heading out the door
[16:33] <ogra_> xnox, well, the spike persists quite long
[16:33] <ogra_> but anacron is indeed a good guess
[16:33]  * ogra_ didnt think about that before
[16:33] <ogra_> i was suspecting apport or whoosie ... but then i couldnt see any spiking when watching them
[16:33] <xnox> ogra_: apt-xapian can take a while on arm ;-)
[16:33] <ogra_> *whoopsie
[16:34] <ogra_> xnox, do we run it on every boot ?
[16:34] <ogra_> i thought thats only run at install time
[16:34] <xnox> well after the initial flash it is your first boot ever so I expect everything to run.
[16:34] <xnox> ah true, it is at install time.... unless timestamps are off =/
[16:35] <ogra_> right
[16:35] <ogra_> for me it happens on every boot
[16:35] <ogra_> the desktop is fine after a few minutes ... but initially it spikes to 600M
[16:40] <ppisati> robclark: ok, should be this one - https://github.com/robclark/kernel-omap4/commits/pvr
[16:40] <ppisati> iirc
[16:40] <shadeslayer> robclark: oh
[16:41] <shadeslayer> robclark: from what I was told ( and from what I see on gitorious ) the kernel works fine
[16:41] <shadeslayer> https://gitorious.org/archos/archos-gpl-gen10/blobs/master/Readme.txt && https://gitorious.org/archos/archos-gpl-gen9-kernel
[16:42] <shadeslayer> anyway, arm stuff is so fiddly :(
[17:06] <hrw> shadeslayer: problem with kernels for arm devices is that most of them totally ignore mainline.
[17:21] <robclark> shadeslayer, yeah, kernel should work fine for *android*.. getting it working w/ linux and gfx accel, etc, will probably not be straightforward
[23:12] <ptl> any of you guys know why I can't write on my MTD recovery partition without byte differences? I tried dd, flash_image and even tried a statically-compiled ddrescue to write it!!! log here: http://pastebin.com/xhRDazn8