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darkxstjbicha, ok.00:01
darkxstI should have some time to do a bunch more later today.00:02
darkxstjbicha, are you missing background on 3.7.5?00:03
jbichadarkxst: no, but I don't have ubuntu-settings installed either https://launchpadlibrarian.net/130099807/ubuntu-settings_12.10.6_12.10.7.diff.gz00:14
jbichawe need to figure out whether we should explicitly override the Ubuntu overrides in ubuntu-gnome-default-settings00:15
darkxstwe probably need to, if they are going to go an disable stuff like that!00:18
darkxstjbicha, seems latest cogl is quite unhappy about having g-s-d background plugin disabled00:36
darkxstseg faults everytime trying to enter overview00:36
darkxst(fixed itself after I removed ubuntu-settings)00:37
darkxstcogl 1.1400:38
jbichadarkxst: ok but there's still the question of whether we should explicitly override other settings00:40
darkxstjbicha, or conflict against ubuntu-settings?00:41
darkxstprobably you don't want ubuntu-settings if you have install ubuntu-gnome-setting00:41
jbichadarkxst: ubuntu-settings is a dependency of ubuntu-desktop though so maybe change that to an alternate dependency too00:42
darkxstI think that would be best00:48
darkxstor it could be nice if there were per-DE overrides, but I don't think thats actually possible00:53
jbichadesrt wanted that but I don't know whether that's possible yet00:56
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darkxstricotz, how do I update .symbols files? there are a lot of changed symbols in libsoup update07:51
ricotzdarkxst, apply the diff which you get on the build failure07:57
ricotzand change the version to the upstream version only07:57
darkxstricotz, change the overall version aka. library version?09:06
darkxstor something else09:08
ricotzit should be the upstream version without the debian part09:18
darkxsthmm so just this in the changelog?, libsoup2.4 (2.41.5-0ubuntu1) raring; urgency=low ? and/or libsoup2.4-1 > libsoup2.4(1)?09:27
ricotzdarkxst, "2.41.5"09:31
ricotzyou asked about the symbols file09:31
darkxstyeh09:31
darkxstbut got confused I guess, it has09:32
darkxstlibsoup-2.4.so.1 libsoup2.4-109:32
ricotzdid you built your package?09:33
darkxst(for 2.40.1)09:33
ricotzit will complain about new symbols normally09:33
ricotzwhich gives you a diff to apply09:33
darkxstI patch the file and libsoup built09:34
ricotzif you already done it, you don't really gave me much to work with09:37
ricotzlook at the file you make the new symbols match the scheme of the old entries09:37
ricotzdon't change the first line (soname) if there wasnt a bump09:38
darkxstricotz, http://pastebin.com/GKJTjsJN09:44
darkxstsorry wrong on09:45
darkxstone09:45
darkxstright one, http://pastebin.com/DtQk8PLJ09:47
ricotzdarkxst, are you using a chroot/pbuilder to build?09:48
ricotzyou are probably missing some builddeps09:49
darkxsthmm no09:49
ricotzdarkxst, seems like bad luck for you, this looks like an upstream problem imo10:04
ricotzprobably some deprecation fallout10:04
darkxstmeh pbuilder not happy either10:16
darkxstErr http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring/main libdconf1 amd64 0.15.2-0ubuntu410:16
darkxst  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.200 80]10:16
ricotzdarkxst, ok, the symbols removals seems fine since they never were part of the public api10:23
ricotzdone between 2.41.1 > 2.41.210:23
ricotzdarkxst, i had a look at the package and will push it to gnome3-staging10:29
darkxstricotz, thanks10:31
darkxstatleast, gnome-documents requires it10:40
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ricotzjbicha, just a heads up, cogl >= 1.13.2 will be needed soon, currently it seems avoidable with some reverts though18:08
jbicharicotz: that doesn't sound fun, we can't run apps built against two different cogl's at the same time?18:18
ricotzjbicha, exactly18:18
ricotzwe can't18:18
jbichaand we can't land the new cogl in raring directly because gnome 3.6 won't work with it easily?18:19
ricotzjbicha, it is suppose to be API compatible, so it should work18:20
jbichaok, do you want to open a tracking bug at some point?18:22
jbichawe don't need new clutter then?18:22
ricotzimo they should go together18:23
jbichaI think seb128 will let us land a few 3.8 things if it's "safe"18:24
ricotzit should be tested before going for it18:24
ricotzthis requires a rebuild of lot of things as you know :\18:25
jbichayeah18:25
ricotzclutter master currently depends on cogl 1.13.218:25
ricotzbut it is avoidable18:25
jbichalike gnome-games 3.8 should be easy since except for the split, not much has been done with them18:25
ricotz(clutter 1.14 i mean)18:26
ricotzit would be reasonable to copy the shlibs mechanism of gjs/mozjs18:27
ricotzto bundle clutter/cogl together18:28
ricotzwhich should make it impossible to have a no-working install combination18:28
jbichaok that's beyond my expertise :)18:30
ricotzi see18:33
ricotzthe problem is also to hope there won't be another cogl soname bump18:33
darkxsthttp://pastebin.com/6F61502i21:40
darkxstjbicha, ricotz ^22:02
darkxstdo you want debdiff's for pacakges that have no debian changes required? (gnome-sushi, gnome-system-monitor etc..)22:08
jbichadarkxst: sure, it will help fill out your https://launchpad.net/~darkxst/+related-packages22:10
jbichait's not as significant as if there were lots of things that needed to be changed but I think it still helps22:12
darkxstgnome-sushi http://pastebin.com/pbSvE2xu22:14
darkxstgnome-system-monitor http://pastebin.com/8zMrTcek22:15
darkxstgsettings http://pastebin.com/24Stcb7922:44
darkxstricotz, is xorg 1.14 going to land this cycle?23:06
ricotzdarkxst, yes, i think so23:24
darkxstok, cool23:29
darkxstjbicha, don't know if you saw this one, before you got disconnect, gsettings http://pastebin.com/24Stcb7923:58

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