[00:01] <darkxst> jbicha, ok.
[00:02] <darkxst> I should have some time to do a bunch more later today.
[00:03] <darkxst> jbicha, are you missing background on 3.7.5?
[00:14] <jbicha> darkxst: no, but I don't have ubuntu-settings installed either https://launchpadlibrarian.net/130099807/ubuntu-settings_12.10.6_12.10.7.diff.gz
[00:15] <jbicha> we need to figure out whether we should explicitly override the Ubuntu overrides in ubuntu-gnome-default-settings
[00:18] <darkxst> we probably need to, if they are going to go an disable stuff like that!
[00:36] <darkxst> jbicha, seems latest cogl is quite unhappy about having g-s-d background plugin disabled
[00:36] <darkxst> seg faults everytime trying to enter overview
[00:37] <darkxst> (fixed itself after I removed ubuntu-settings)
[00:38] <darkxst> cogl 1.14
[00:40] <jbicha> darkxst: ok but there's still the question of whether we should explicitly override other settings
[00:41] <darkxst> jbicha, or conflict against ubuntu-settings?
[00:41] <darkxst> probably you don't want ubuntu-settings if you have install ubuntu-gnome-setting
[00:42] <jbicha> darkxst: ubuntu-settings is a dependency of ubuntu-desktop though so maybe change that to an alternate dependency too
[00:48] <darkxst> I think that would be best
[00:53] <darkxst> or it could be nice if there were per-DE overrides, but I don't think thats actually possible
[00:56] <jbicha> desrt wanted that but I don't know whether that's possible yet
[07:51] <darkxst> ricotz, how do I update .symbols files? there are a lot of changed symbols in libsoup update
[07:57] <ricotz> darkxst, apply the diff which you get on the build failure
[07:57] <ricotz> and change the version to the upstream version only
[09:06] <darkxst> ricotz, change the overall version aka. library version?
[09:08] <darkxst> or something else
[09:18] <ricotz> it should be the upstream version without the debian part
[09:27] <darkxst> hmm so just this in the changelog?, libsoup2.4 (2.41.5-0ubuntu1) raring; urgency=low ? and/or libsoup2.4-1 > libsoup2.4(1)?
[09:31] <ricotz> darkxst, "2.41.5"
[09:31] <ricotz> you asked about the symbols file
[09:31] <darkxst> yeh
[09:32] <darkxst> but got confused I guess, it has
[09:32] <darkxst> libsoup-2.4.so.1 libsoup2.4-1
[09:33] <ricotz> did you built your package?
[09:33] <darkxst> (for 2.40.1)
[09:33] <ricotz> it will complain about new symbols normally
[09:33] <ricotz> which gives you a diff to apply
[09:34] <darkxst> I patch the file and libsoup built
[09:37] <ricotz> if you already done it, you don't really gave me much to work with
[09:37] <ricotz> look at the file you make the new symbols match the scheme of the old entries
[09:38] <ricotz> don't change the first line (soname) if there wasnt a bump
[09:44] <darkxst> ricotz, http://pastebin.com/GKJTjsJN
[09:45] <darkxst> sorry wrong on
[09:45] <darkxst> one
[09:47] <darkxst> right one, http://pastebin.com/DtQk8PLJ
[09:48] <ricotz> darkxst, are you using a chroot/pbuilder to build?
[09:49] <ricotz> you are probably missing some builddeps
[09:49] <darkxst> hmm no
[10:04] <ricotz> darkxst, seems like bad luck for you, this looks like an upstream problem imo
[10:04] <ricotz> probably some deprecation fallout
[10:16] <darkxst> meh pbuilder not happy either
[10:16] <darkxst> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring/main libdconf1 amd64 0.15.2-0ubuntu4
[10:16] <darkxst>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.200 80]
[10:23] <ricotz> darkxst, ok, the symbols removals seems fine since they never were part of the public api
[10:23] <ricotz> done between 2.41.1 > 2.41.2
[10:29] <ricotz> darkxst, i had a look at the package and will push it to gnome3-staging
[10:31] <darkxst> ricotz, thanks
[10:40] <darkxst> atleast, gnome-documents requires it
[18:08] <ricotz> jbicha, just a heads up, cogl >= 1.13.2 will be needed soon, currently it seems avoidable with some reverts though
[18:18] <jbicha> ricotz: that doesn't sound fun, we can't run apps built against two different cogl's at the same time?
[18:18] <ricotz> jbicha, exactly
[18:18] <ricotz> we can't
[18:19] <jbicha> and we can't land the new cogl in raring directly because gnome 3.6 won't work with it easily?
[18:20] <ricotz> jbicha, it is suppose to be API compatible, so it should work
[18:22] <jbicha> ok, do you want to open a tracking bug at some point?
[18:22] <jbicha> we don't need new clutter then?
[18:23] <ricotz> imo they should go together
[18:24] <jbicha> I think seb128 will let us land a few 3.8 things if it's "safe"
[18:24] <ricotz> it should be tested before going for it
[18:25] <ricotz> this requires a rebuild of lot of things as you know :\
[18:25] <jbicha> yeah
[18:25] <ricotz> clutter master currently depends on cogl 1.13.2
[18:25] <ricotz> but it is avoidable
[18:25] <jbicha> like gnome-games 3.8 should be easy since except for the split, not much has been done with them
[18:26] <ricotz> (clutter 1.14 i mean)
[18:27] <ricotz> it would be reasonable to copy the shlibs mechanism of gjs/mozjs
[18:28] <ricotz> to bundle clutter/cogl together
[18:28] <ricotz> which should make it impossible to have a no-working install combination
[18:30] <jbicha> ok that's beyond my expertise :)
[18:33] <ricotz> i see
[18:33] <ricotz> the problem is also to hope there won't be another cogl soname bump
[21:40] <darkxst> http://pastebin.com/6F61502i
[22:02] <darkxst> jbicha, ricotz ^
[22:08] <darkxst> do you want debdiff's for pacakges that have no debian changes required? (gnome-sushi, gnome-system-monitor etc..)
[22:10] <jbicha> darkxst: sure, it will help fill out your https://launchpad.net/~darkxst/+related-packages
[22:12] <jbicha> it's not as significant as if there were lots of things that needed to be changed but I think it still helps
[22:14] <darkxst> gnome-sushi http://pastebin.com/pbSvE2xu
[22:15] <darkxst> gnome-system-monitor http://pastebin.com/8zMrTcek
[22:44] <darkxst> gsettings http://pastebin.com/24Stcb79
[23:06] <darkxst> ricotz, is xorg 1.14 going to land this cycle?
[23:24] <ricotz> darkxst, yes, i think so
[23:29] <darkxst> ok, cool
[23:58] <darkxst> jbicha, don't know if you saw this one, before you got disconnect, gsettings http://pastebin.com/24Stcb79