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dholbachgood morning07:27
gesergood morning07:28
Rhonda*tap tap tap*07:33
Rhonda… finally trying to upload to my ppa again. Let's see how many tries I need this time. ;)07:34
geserhow many tries did you need last time?07:35
RhondaNo clue - too long ago (a year it seems), so that's why I fear to fumble. :)07:36
RhondaAccepted:07:36
* Rhonda blinks.07:37
Rhondauhm07:38
Rhonda Currently building on wani03 (arm ppa builder) Cancel build07:38
RhondaArchitecture:07:38
Rhondai38607:38
Rhonda… how does that match?07:38
Rhondai386 ppas get built on arm?07:39
StevenKRhonda: They do not.07:43
StevenKThe ARM builders are virtualized, so we can flip them between whatever we want07:44
RhondaIt just confused me. :)07:44
StevenKLike that's hard. :-)07:44
Rhondapah :)07:55
RhondaWhy doesn't wiki.ubuntu.com/PPA #redirect to the proper page?  … and, while we are at it, what page would that be? ;)07:56
tumbleweedRhonda: I'd say https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA07:57
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StevenKRhonda: Because PPAs are a Launchpad thing, and not an Ubuntu thing?07:59
tumbleweedwell, they are an Ubuntu-thing that's outside Ubuntu08:00
tumbleweedit's hard to say they aren't an Ubuntu thing, when they fit on the Ubuntu archive, not any other distro08:01
RhondaStevenK: And Launchpad is not an Ubuntu thing?08:01
tumbleweedit isn't08:01
RhondaSo why is it used for Ubuntu then? :)08:02
Niraj_hi, I have a small bash patch that'll search for commands on up-down arrow key. an extension to 'history-search-forward' and 'history-search-backward'. Does anyone think it might be useful?08:02
Rhondatumbleweed: <nitpick>So you say all the bugs in Ubuntu are not an Ubuntu thing</nitpick>08:02
tumbleweedRhonda: launchpad.net/ubuntu, that's Ubuntu08:03
tumbleweedlaunchpad.net/foo isn't08:03
RhondaRight, but you didn't specify that.  Launchpad is pretty much an Ubuntu thing.  The majority of it is.08:04
tumbleweedyes, built for Ubuntu08:04
tumbleweedbut there are upstreams, downstreams, and unrelated projects on it08:04
RhondaI know, it was built to be open, part of the original design already.08:05
tumbleweedyeah08:05
RhondaAnd especially, PPAs are tight to Ubuntu releases and not open to other distributions (which was requested and rejected, if you remember the discussions, StevenK), so stating that PPAs aren't an Ubuntu thing but a Launchpad thing is all but a nitpick and itches me a bit.08:07
maxbPPAs are a service provided by Launchpad that just happens to only be targetted at Ubuntu08:16
maxbHence they're more Launchpaddy than Ubuntuy08:16
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Rhondahuh08:42
Rhondasyncpackage asks me for a password for a new keyring?  That's new to me.08:42
tumbleweedthat's python-keyring08:42
tumbleweedit was using python-crypto insecurely08:43
RhondaSo what is that used for?08:43
RhondaAnd when/where will I need the password again?08:43
tumbleweedstoring your launchpad oauth tokens08:45
tumbleweednext time you run it, I guess08:45
tumbleweedit uses gnome-keyring / kwallet, if available08:45
tumbleweedbut clearly they aren't08:46
arandDoes anyone have any clue as to why apps.ubuntu.com would differ from the actual state of packages, as per comments on http://askubuntu.com/questions/252546/install-gnome-onscreen-keyboard-gok-in-ubuntu-12-04 ?10:02
pipedreamapt-cache show gok10:05
pipedreamN: Can't select versions from package 'gok' as it is purely virtual10:05
pipedreamN: No packages found10:05
pipedreamapt-cache show gdm|grep gok10:08
pipedreamSuggests: libpam-gnome-keyring, locales, uswsusp, gnome-power-manager, gnome-mag, gnome-orca, gok10:08
xnoxESphynx: ok. i'll peak at it.10:12
arandpipedream: Hmm, I thought virtual packages only really existed when they were provided by something?10:16
pipedreamyes, weird, I think something is wrong there10:17
arandapt-cache showpkg gok  gives me gdm3 and education-desktop-gnome on Debian here, but no reverse provides...10:18
RhondaWow, the amd64 build queue seems to be looong.10:20
RhondaAre there any troubles with those?10:20
Laneyyou can see that?10:21
LaneyI get forbidden10:21
RhondaLaney: Whom do you ask?10:22
LaneyRhonda: https://launchpad.net/builders10:23
Laneythat's where you see the build queues - what are you looking at?10:23
xnoxI'm currently Not allowed there.10:23
RhondaLaney: https://launchpad.net/~rhonda/+archive/pgadmin3/+build/428474810:23
Rhonda"Startsin 9 hours"10:24
Laneyoh, a PPA10:24
xnoxPrivate recipes are triggering /builders not be accessible =(10:24
Laneythat kind of thing happens sadly10:24
Laneyyou'll be able to see how many builds are waiting once the /builders page opens up again10:24
Rhondai386 starts more-or-less immediately, but amd64 seems to take hours before it even starts.10:24
xnoxRhonda: are you after postgresql 9.2 stack?10:24
Laneysometimes buildds are borrowed from amd64 to i386 for example10:24
Laneyor taken for various reasons10:25
Rhondaxnox: wesnoth has the same delay of hours.10:25
RhondaAnd that doesn't B-D on pg :)10:25
Laneyif you need it urgently #launchpad can fiddle the relative priority10:25
RhondaNo, absolutely not needed, just wondered.10:25
Laneyyeah, just one of those best effort things10:26
RhondaUhm, who is responsible for screenshots.ubuntu.com?10:39
RhondaIt points to a different IP than screenshots.debian.net, but it seems to be the same thing, and the /about page also reads the same.10:40
RhondaThis is confusing, especially since pabs who is noted there as being maintainer of it isn't aware of it. :)10:40
tumbleweedRhonda: I'd imagine the software-centre people10:45
Laneyit seems to be a Canonical IP, so I suppose it's some kind of mirror / proxy10:45
Laneyheaders imply so10:46
* Laney pokes broder about the lintian lab10:54
RhondaLaney: Right, haven't thought about doing a HEAD on the screenshots.u.c page.11:21
Rhondawhat the …  why would a package build on amd64 for PPA but not on i386?12:46
RhondaWhat detail am I missing here?12:46
Laneyyou mean FTBFS?12:47
Rhondayep12:47
Laneyi386 builds arch:all12:47
Rhonda… just figured I guess12:47
Rhondayes, binary-indep failed on i38612:48
RhondaThanks. :)12:48
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ESphynx'morning13:08
ESphynxxnox: did you get the chance to peek at that .debdiff? :)13:09
ESphynxfontconfig, freetype, libjpeg, libpng, mesa-gl -- have these things been multiarched yet? They're apparently not in Quantal :|14:26
Laney(quantal-amd64)root@raring:/# apt-cache show libpng12-0 | grep Multi-Arch14:27
LaneyMulti-Arch: same14:27
ESphynxhmm talking about the dev package though14:28
ESphynxit's truly annoying that installing amd64 deletes the i386 libraries even though they're located inside /usr/lib/i386-gnu-linux :S14:30
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RhondaHmm.  If I delete a package from my PPA - how long does it usually take until it is really gone?14:57
RhondaOr will I even tomorrow receive a reject mail for a fixed upload with the same version number?14:57
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ScottKRhonda: IIRC you still have to you a new version.  It's like the archive in that regard.20:28
Rhonda:/20:37
lifelessScottK: Rhonda: it is an archive, works the same way21:10
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