| alyawn | hello, wrst | 02:01 |
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| wrst | how you doing alyawn? | 02:02 |
| alyawn | doing alright... | 02:02 |
| alyawn | trying to hang in there | 02:02 |
| chris4585 | woops, I get distracted, wrst why the change? | 02:09 |
| wrst | well chris4585 desktops... i've tried them all and well i hate them all | 02:18 |
| wrst | so giving unity another try and so far i dont' hate it as much as gnome shell | 02:19 |
| wrst | i like cinnammon but its just not ready yet | 02:19 |
| chris4585 | ah | 02:19 |
| chris4585 | I like cinnamon, I think I'm on 1.6 and I'm having zero issues | 02:19 |
| chris4585 | good luck, I would want to kill myself if I used unity | 02:20 |
| wrst | chris4585: i was on 1.6 on arch and its nice but a little i don't just wasn't hardly for me | 02:24 |
| chris4585 | I'm on manjaro, which is arch | 02:25 |
| chris4585 | I wouldn't want to use it if it wasn't for this one plugin | 02:25 |
| chris4585 | I really don't mind having it all default looking like windows 7 either now | 02:26 |
| wrst | afternoon chris4585 | 21:16 |
| chris4585 | wrst, morning | 21:17 |
| wrst | chris4585: you need a wakeup call? :P | 21:17 |
| chris4585 | nah | 21:21 |
| chris4585 | what I need is several more hours in a day | 21:21 |
| wrst | ha ha don't we all? | 21:22 |
| chris4585 | yeah | 21:22 |
| chris4585 | you know what I need, is a hard drive lol | 21:23 |
| chris4585 | but instead I'm going to buy a graphics card | 21:25 |
| wrst | ha ha well GPU is more fun :) | 21:35 |
| chris4585 | indeed, I've been saving up, and thinking I'll get something like a 7850... | 21:36 |
| wrst | :) nice | 21:37 |
| cyberanger | I like GPU's, the better to brute force your crypto keys with | 21:50 |
| wrst | of course cyberanger leans to evil | 21:52 |
| average_guy | http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/12/25-gpu-cluster-cracks-every-standard-windows-password-in-6-hours/ | 21:54 |
| cyberanger | beats spending a few hundred to draw pretty lines faster, that sounds evil to me ;-) | 21:54 |
| average_guy | I too am in need of a graphics card | 21:57 |
| wrst | wow 6 hours | 21:58 |
| wrst | average_guy: are you still living on the terminal? | 21:58 |
| average_guy | not entirely wrst | 21:58 |
| average_guy | but I am at the moment | 21:58 |
| wrst | average_guy:ha ha you have to get some gui goodness on occassion :) | 21:59 |
| cyberanger | average_guy: considering I've run a few windows crackers, (my favorite being Orphcrack) and bypassed SAM a few ways, six hours is a bit long | 21:59 |
| average_guy | yeah, cyberanger but this thing does letter numbers and symbols out to 8 characters | 22:00 |
| average_guy | idk, seemed like an impressive waste of money to me | 22:01 |
| cyberanger | wpa2 is the real challenge, IMHO | 22:01 |
| average_guy | I have a VM host set up wrst, so I can have any desktop I choose, and I have several. But my terminal box is the only one that runs around the clock | 22:03 |
| wrst | gotcha average_guy, and very cool! | 22:05 |
| average_guy | just got a nForce 790i Ultra SLI MCP though that needs a GPU | 22:05 |
| average_guy | it has been several years since I had a proper desktop computer | 22:06 |
| average_guy | i don't even need an awesome one like chris4585, anything better then server graphics will impress me | 22:08 |
| cyberanger | it's been several years since people told me mine was proper | 22:08 |
| cyberanger | either overkill or underrated | 22:08 |
| chris4585 | I plan on doing gaming, I have the computer, just need the graphics | 22:09 |
| average_guy | I would like to play some skyrim on my chris4585 | 22:10 |
| chris4585 | that is one game I plan on playing, especially with high res textures | 22:10 |
| average_guy | I am going for "overkill" cyberanger. Got the board I did because it supports VT-x and already has 2 NICs. I want it to stand on its own and play games as well as be the head node for my cluster | 22:15 |
| average_guy | KUB love me | 22:18 |
| average_guy | *loves | 22:18 |
| cyberanger | I went for 4.0Ghz Octo-core AMD processor, 32 GB ram, 12TB HDD | 22:19 |
| average_guy | holy crap | 22:19 |
| cyberanger | no graphics card yet, intregrated is above par though | 22:19 |
| average_guy | deep pockets | 22:19 |
| cyberanger | actually, not that deep, huge discount when your doing the labor of building it | 22:20 |
| average_guy | I got you on RAM, but honestly I thought more HDD compacity=longer seek time so have kept my drive space as limited as possible | 22:21 |
| cyberanger | ah, well, with 4 drives, lvm2, not much of an issue | 22:24 |
| cyberanger | and you have more than 32GB of ram? I maxed the board out there | 22:25 |
| average_guy | Yeah, in my servers, 64 in one and 32 in the other. the desktop board is still empty tho | 22:29 |
| chris4585 | cyberanger, I'm wanting an 8350, I have the motherboard just not enough money atm | 22:29 |
| chris4585 | atm, I just have a phenom II x4 965, with 16gbs of RAM | 22:30 |
| average_guy | 1GB cards=cheap, 8GB cards=rediculous | 22:32 |
| cyberanger | average_guy: ah, in a server, ok | 22:32 |
| cyberanger | gonna say, there isn't many desktop boards that go that far | 22:33 |
| average_guy | my new (actually pretty old) board only supports 8GB of RAM. I bought it because it is very overclock-able. Any of you guys into that? As this will be my first attempt, I just plan on frying it.. | 22:43 |
| chris4585 | average_guy, somewhat, I went with the safe route, bought a board I know is overclockable and comes with utilities to do that sort of thing | 22:52 |
| chris4585 | with my asus board I got a 5mhz overclock with the asus utility, but for some reason it only applies for windows... | 22:53 |
| chris4585 | so manually doing it, just look it up and do a little bit of research | 22:53 |
| chris4585 | all I can say is adjust settings in bios in tiny increments | 22:54 |
| average_guy | that is what I was going for also chris4585 that is why I got this board. I have read a LOT about it in overclocking forums | 22:55 |
| average_guy | I'll remember your tip though about adjusting in tiny increments | 22:56 |
| chris4585 | average_guy, I can recommend a video hold on | 22:57 |
| chris4585 | average_guy, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EigxB7w-pjc | 22:58 |
| average_guy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EigxB7w-pjc//www.youtube.com/watch?v=EigxB7w-pjc | 22:58 |
| average_guy | oops | 22:58 |
| chris4585 | its a little long, but manually overclocking needs hours and hours anywho | 22:59 |
| chris4585 | that is on a newer board, but its pretty much the same with voltages, and multipliers | 22:59 |
| average_guy | my board has zero onboard graphics chris4585, so I haven't even seen the bios screen yet | 23:04 |
| chris4585 | oh lol, mine doesn't have onboard graphics either, but I have my poopie 220 gt that somehow gets me by | 23:05 |
| cyberanger | average_guy: I think mine is, but 4.0 is just too good atm | 23:06 |
| cyberanger | with 8 cores | 23:06 |
| cyberanger | so I've left it alone | 23:06 |
| cyberanger | I want a ezcap EzTV668 all the sudden | 23:06 |
| chris4585 | cyberanger, which cpu do you have? | 23:07 |
| average_guy | I'm eyeballing a GT520 chris4585. Cheap, directx 11 compat. and way better then nothing. | 23:08 |
| cyberanger | chris4585: it's an AMD AM3+ socket, 4.0 Ghz Octo-Core | 23:09 |
| chris4585 | cyberanger, model? | 23:09 |
| cyberanger | lemme see if I got a part number handy | 23:09 |
| chris4585 | I'm going to assume an 8320, or 8120, or 8150 | 23:09 |
| cyberanger | part fd8350frhkbox | 23:10 |
| chris4585 | average_guy, nice, I would probably go with an 620 just because I like to be on current generation | 23:10 |
| cyberanger | so 8350 | 23:11 |
| chris4585 | ah, didn't figure you would have got the latest, I'm jealous now | 23:11 |
| cyberanger | chris4585: ^ | 23:11 |
| chris4585 | lol | 23:11 |
| chris4585 | because an 8350 is exactly what I want :< | 23:11 |
| average_guy | I don't understand the performance specs anymore cyberanger. Back in the day, higher GHz=faster computer. But my G5 with 2.66 GHz processors will house my G4 with 3.4GHz processors | 23:11 |
| cyberanger | average_guy: yeah, due to the multi core nature | 23:12 |
| chris4585 | well depends on how many cores too, and some processors have weaker cores or stronger cores | 23:12 |
| cyberanger | it's skewed | 23:12 |
| chris4585 | an 8350 is beautiful when multitasking compared to a higher priced 3570k, but the 3570k can do better generally if you're doing one specific thing | 23:13 |
| cyberanger | some old intels weren't even true quad cores, just two duals sitting on top of each other, used the fsb to communicate between the two, so fsb speed mattered more | 23:13 |
| cyberanger | well, even then, it's a huge step from Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5450 | 23:14 |
| cyberanger | that this laptop has, hard to see that advantage | 23:14 |
| average_guy | that is the primary diff in mine cyberanger. Slower processors but much faster FSB. | 23:15 |
| average_guy | I just ordered a core2 duo and a quad today cyberanger. The duo to fry and the quad to run after :) | 23:16 |
| cyberanger | I still use 433Mhz single core too | 23:17 |
| cyberanger | usually just a quick and dirty way to get a remote shell | 23:17 |
| cyberanger | tell it to dial into an old backup account, or plug in a slow cell or sat phone | 23:18 |
| cyberanger | and ssh in | 23:18 |
| cyberanger | actually, two of them, ones an old compaq, the other is a Asus eee 4g surf | 23:19 |
| average_guy | My terminal box is 300MHz 128k. Installing Ubuntu is a trick.. | 23:19 |
| average_guy | and updating has killed it before | 23:19 |
| average_guy | compaq presario 5020 | 23:20 |
| cyberanger | average_guy: I had a hard time with the compaq, wound up with debian, taking the pata disc out, sticking it in a cradle, using a method that involved debootstrap, chroot & other tools | 23:20 |
| cyberanger | then putting it back, and hoping I get lucky | 23:21 |
| cyberanger | and I did, but it's that kind of method | 23:21 |
| cyberanger | updating it hasn't killed it yet, but I've had to watch the update task | 23:21 |
| average_guy | My install with "core" and "server" .isos failed, but using an Lubuntu alternate .iso in "Expert Mode" I can get a core system working | 23:23 |
| cyberanger | yeah, it's nowhere near simple, sadly | 23:23 |
| average_guy | fo sho | 23:23 |
| cyberanger | I miss the floppy disc installs for exactly this reason | 23:24 |
| average_guy | I have a 486DX2 here I want to try to get linux on next | 23:24 |
| cyberanger | they could have been the perfect core netinst image | 23:24 |
| cyberanger | but that was asking for way too much | 23:25 |
| cyberanger | well, gonna head out for a little while | 23:25 |
| average_guy | yup, friday night. bout time for me to get ready to go get hammered | 23:26 |
| chris4585 | whoo, I'm so glad its friday | 23:27 |
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