[02:01] hello, wrst [02:02] how you doing alyawn? [02:02] doing alright... [02:02] trying to hang in there [02:09] woops, I get distracted, wrst why the change? [02:18] well chris4585 desktops... i've tried them all and well i hate them all [02:19] so giving unity another try and so far i dont' hate it as much as gnome shell [02:19] i like cinnammon but its just not ready yet [02:19] ah [02:19] I like cinnamon, I think I'm on 1.6 and I'm having zero issues [02:20] good luck, I would want to kill myself if I used unity [02:24] chris4585: i was on 1.6 on arch and its nice but a little i don't just wasn't hardly for me [02:25] I'm on manjaro, which is arch [02:25] I wouldn't want to use it if it wasn't for this one plugin [02:26] I really don't mind having it all default looking like windows 7 either now [21:16] afternoon chris4585 [21:17] wrst, morning [21:17] chris4585: you need a wakeup call? :P [21:21] nah [21:21] what I need is several more hours in a day [21:22] ha ha don't we all? [21:22] yeah [21:23] you know what I need, is a hard drive lol [21:25] but instead I'm going to buy a graphics card [21:35] ha ha well GPU is more fun :) [21:36] indeed, I've been saving up, and thinking I'll get something like a 7850... [21:37] :) nice [21:50] I like GPU's, the better to brute force your crypto keys with [21:52] of course cyberanger leans to evil [21:54] http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/12/25-gpu-cluster-cracks-every-standard-windows-password-in-6-hours/ [21:54] beats spending a few hundred to draw pretty lines faster, that sounds evil to me ;-) [21:57] I too am in need of a graphics card [21:58] wow 6 hours [21:58] average_guy: are you still living on the terminal? [21:58] not entirely wrst [21:58] but I am at the moment [21:59] average_guy:ha ha you have to get some gui goodness on occassion :) [21:59] average_guy: considering I've run a few windows crackers, (my favorite being Orphcrack) and bypassed SAM a few ways, six hours is a bit long [22:00] yeah, cyberanger but this thing does letter numbers and symbols out to 8 characters [22:01] idk, seemed like an impressive waste of money to me [22:01] wpa2 is the real challenge, IMHO [22:03] I have a VM host set up wrst, so I can have any desktop I choose, and I have several. But my terminal box is the only one that runs around the clock [22:05] gotcha average_guy, and very cool! [22:05] just got a nForce 790i Ultra SLI MCP though that needs a GPU [22:06] it has been several years since I had a proper desktop computer [22:08] i don't even need an awesome one like chris4585, anything better then server graphics will impress me [22:08] it's been several years since people told me mine was proper [22:08] either overkill or underrated [22:09] I plan on doing gaming, I have the computer, just need the graphics [22:10] I would like to play some skyrim on my chris4585 [22:10] that is one game I plan on playing, especially with high res textures [22:15] I am going for "overkill" cyberanger. Got the board I did because it supports VT-x and already has 2 NICs. I want it to stand on its own and play games as well as be the head node for my cluster [22:18] KUB love me [22:18] *loves [22:19] I went for 4.0Ghz Octo-core AMD processor, 32 GB ram, 12TB HDD [22:19] holy crap [22:19] no graphics card yet, intregrated is above par though [22:19] deep pockets [22:20] actually, not that deep, huge discount when your doing the labor of building it [22:21] I got you on RAM, but honestly I thought more HDD compacity=longer seek time so have kept my drive space as limited as possible [22:24] ah, well, with 4 drives, lvm2, not much of an issue [22:25] and you have more than 32GB of ram? I maxed the board out there [22:29] Yeah, in my servers, 64 in one and 32 in the other. the desktop board is still empty tho [22:29] cyberanger, I'm wanting an 8350, I have the motherboard just not enough money atm [22:30] atm, I just have a phenom II x4 965, with 16gbs of RAM [22:32] 1GB cards=cheap, 8GB cards=rediculous [22:32] average_guy: ah, in a server, ok [22:33] gonna say, there isn't many desktop boards that go that far [22:43] my new (actually pretty old) board only supports 8GB of RAM. I bought it because it is very overclock-able. Any of you guys into that? As this will be my first attempt, I just plan on frying it.. [22:52] average_guy, somewhat, I went with the safe route, bought a board I know is overclockable and comes with utilities to do that sort of thing [22:53] with my asus board I got a 5mhz overclock with the asus utility, but for some reason it only applies for windows... [22:53] so manually doing it, just look it up and do a little bit of research [22:54] all I can say is adjust settings in bios in tiny increments [22:55] that is what I was going for also chris4585 that is why I got this board. I have read a LOT about it in overclocking forums [22:56] I'll remember your tip though about adjusting in tiny increments [22:57] average_guy, I can recommend a video hold on [22:58] average_guy, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EigxB7w-pjc [22:58] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EigxB7w-pjc//www.youtube.com/watch?v=EigxB7w-pjc [22:58] oops [22:59] its a little long, but manually overclocking needs hours and hours anywho [22:59] that is on a newer board, but its pretty much the same with voltages, and multipliers [23:04] my board has zero onboard graphics chris4585, so I haven't even seen the bios screen yet [23:05] oh lol, mine doesn't have onboard graphics either, but I have my poopie 220 gt that somehow gets me by [23:06] average_guy: I think mine is, but 4.0 is just too good atm [23:06] with 8 cores [23:06] so I've left it alone [23:06] I want a ezcap EzTV668 all the sudden [23:07] cyberanger, which cpu do you have? [23:08] I'm eyeballing a GT520 chris4585. Cheap, directx 11 compat. and way better then nothing. [23:09] chris4585: it's an AMD AM3+ socket, 4.0 Ghz Octo-Core [23:09] cyberanger, model? [23:09] lemme see if I got a part number handy [23:09] I'm going to assume an 8320, or 8120, or 8150 [23:10] part fd8350frhkbox [23:10] average_guy, nice, I would probably go with an 620 just because I like to be on current generation [23:11] so 8350 [23:11] ah, didn't figure you would have got the latest, I'm jealous now [23:11] chris4585: ^ [23:11] lol [23:11] because an 8350 is exactly what I want :< [23:11] I don't understand the performance specs anymore cyberanger. Back in the day, higher GHz=faster computer. But my G5 with 2.66 GHz processors will house my G4 with 3.4GHz processors [23:12] average_guy: yeah, due to the multi core nature [23:12] well depends on how many cores too, and some processors have weaker cores or stronger cores [23:12] it's skewed [23:13] an 8350 is beautiful when multitasking compared to a higher priced 3570k, but the 3570k can do better generally if you're doing one specific thing [23:13] some old intels weren't even true quad cores, just two duals sitting on top of each other, used the fsb to communicate between the two, so fsb speed mattered more [23:14] well, even then, it's a huge step from Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5450 [23:14] that this laptop has, hard to see that advantage [23:15] that is the primary diff in mine cyberanger. Slower processors but much faster FSB. [23:16] I just ordered a core2 duo and a quad today cyberanger. The duo to fry and the quad to run after :) [23:17] I still use 433Mhz single core too [23:17] usually just a quick and dirty way to get a remote shell [23:18] tell it to dial into an old backup account, or plug in a slow cell or sat phone [23:18] and ssh in [23:19] actually, two of them, ones an old compaq, the other is a Asus eee 4g surf [23:19] My terminal box is 300MHz 128k. Installing Ubuntu is a trick.. [23:19] and updating has killed it before [23:20] compaq presario 5020 [23:20] average_guy: I had a hard time with the compaq, wound up with debian, taking the pata disc out, sticking it in a cradle, using a method that involved debootstrap, chroot & other tools [23:21] then putting it back, and hoping I get lucky [23:21] and I did, but it's that kind of method [23:21] updating it hasn't killed it yet, but I've had to watch the update task [23:23] My install with "core" and "server" .isos failed, but using an Lubuntu alternate .iso in "Expert Mode" I can get a core system working [23:23] yeah, it's nowhere near simple, sadly [23:23] fo sho [23:24] I miss the floppy disc installs for exactly this reason [23:24] I have a 486DX2 here I want to try to get linux on next [23:24] they could have been the perfect core netinst image [23:25] but that was asking for way too much [23:25] well, gonna head out for a little while [23:26] yup, friday night. bout time for me to get ready to go get hammered [23:27] whoo, I'm so glad its friday