/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/08/#ubuntu-za.txt

Squirmmorning05:32
inetprogood mornings06:04
inetprosuperfly: how's the man doing this morning06:04
inetproMaaz: tell Kilos Good Morning06:05
Maazinetpro: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode06:05
magespawngood morning all06:14
Kilosmorning inetpro superfly magespawn and others too06:42
superflyinetpro: dunno, he was sleeping when I left06:44
superflynever woke up last night06:44
inetprosuperfly: cool, sleep is good for him06:45
inetproKilos: wb06:46
Kilosty06:46
Kiloswhat a night06:46
Kilos12.10 boots to a kinda brown/pink screen with no icons launcher niks06:47
Kilosand i forgot to unplug kde on second drive so that boots to grub now06:48
Kilosgrrr06:48
Kilosgrub prompt that is06:49
magespawnKilos I think you should be a Ubuntu tester06:50
Kilosrofl06:52
Kilosif they supply data i will06:52
Kilos12.10 nm worked and all, then hung when installing all downloaded upgrades06:53
Kilosthen second time boots to brown screen06:53
Kilos800m data used but got bit more clever second time around. ctrl+alt+f2 and rsynced archives to storage partition06:54
magespawnnice06:57
magespawndata and ubuntu guru06:57
magespawnhave you kept track of how many installs you have done?06:57
Kilosbut now no gui so cant start nm and install kubuntu-desktop06:58
Kiloslol must be 100"s06:58
magespawni am pretty sure you can use the non gui version of nm06:59
magespawnwhatevere it is called06:59
Kilosoh06:59
magespawna lot of the gui stuff in ubuntu is just front end stuff 07:00
magespawnlet me see07:00
Kilosoh i read somewhere once about starting nm from cli07:00
Kilosthe guy even said for servers and peeps that wanna play some07:01
magespawnnmcli is the command also has a man page07:01
Kilosai!07:02
magespawnhttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man1/nmcli.1.html07:02
Kilosnoman pages for noobs07:02
Kilosok ty i go see07:02
Kilosyeah if there can be problems then i will get them hey? murphy lives here07:08
Kiloskde reinstalled. need sim for fone to get it updated. wbb07:12
inetpromagespawn: I agree, he should be a Ubuntu Tester07:17
inetproand he should be employed and get paid to test these things07:19
magespawnKilos does things to his machine that most would not even think of, let alone attempt07:19
deegee_1ohayo gozaimasu everyone07:19
inetprowhoever employs him must just let him work right there from his home where he can look after his sister's sheep07:20
inetprodeegee_1: wb07:20
magespawnhey deegee_107:25
magespawni think he would do it just for the data07:25
deegee_1o/07:25
Kilosoh my goodness. kde saw modem first time07:27
Kilosafter so many installs of not seeing it07:27
Kilosholy moly07:27
Kilossigh back to pling instead of bloep07:28
Kilosmaybe i should just install kde and let someone else help noobs with unity07:37
Kiloshehe07:37
Squirmhi07:38
inetproKilos: is that on 12.04?07:40
magespawnhey Squirm07:40
inetprogood morning Squirm07:41
Kilosyeah magespawn on ians 500g drive that i had to use sakis3g before07:45
Kiloshi Squirm 07:45
KilosTCT Mobile International Limited HSPA Data Card07:47
Kilosthats what it sees. dont like the word limited much07:47
Kilosmaybe i should try get flash firmware for it?07:48
Kiloshi deegee_1 07:49
deegee_1hi Kilos .... o/07:51
magespawnKilos:  maybe it is limited to only HSPA08:09
Kilosbut thats already faster than our ip poeps provide hey?08:10
Kiloss/poeps/peeps08:10
magespawnall of the time 08:10
magespawn poeps is right08:11
Kiloswho is sick by the fly?08:11
magespawnnot sure, why?08:11
Kilosa chillen08:11
Kilossaw him tell pro he was still sleeping08:12
magespawnah yes08:13
magespawnsleeping is usually a good sign08:13
magespawnanybody know the command to show the size of /boot cannot seem to find anything via google08:18
magespawnfound somethinf just need to ask the right question08:19
magespawndu08:23
Kilosyou see inetpro , same drive, pc and modem and now kde sees it first off on this install08:37
Kilosif you can explain what changed i would be very happy08:38
magespawnmaybe the updates to kde Kilos08:38
Kilosno man it saw it before i did updates. installed first then plugged modem08:39
magespawnyes but is it the latest kde?08:40
Kilosunity was other way around. connect before rebooting then unplug and reboot08:40
Kilosno 12.0408:40
magespawnno ide then08:40
magespawns/ide/idea08:41
magespawni wonder if there is away to snapshot the system to document any differences?08:41
magespawngotta go out for a bit bbl08:41
Kiloswow08:44
Kilosi think all the install files and what is done goes with each install08:44
Kilosdunno if there will be cat or tail or any other info left08:45
Kiloswould be nice to save the whole install process so one can read where things are different when stuff dont work08:53
deegee_1Kilos: you re-installed your desktop? or switched to kde?08:54
Kilosreinstalled on one drive08:54
Kiloskept /home partition08:55
Kilosi like a seperate /home08:55
deegee_1ok, the install gave you problems or something?08:55
deegee_1the previous install i meant...08:56
Kiloslol yeah deegee_1 about ten or more couldnt sees my modem09:07
Kiloshad to use cell to get sakis3g09:07
Kilosbut was all network-manager probs. till unity 12.10 then other stuffs09:10
Kilosgrrr09:10
Kilosafter upgrading. white screen, black screen and latest is a pink that changed to brown as i watched it for an hour09:12
Kiloshehe09:12
deegee_1hihihihihi .....09:18
deegee_1now that surely is something not to be happy about?09:19
deegee_1so, you are now using KDE and that's it? no more reinstalls perhaps?09:19
* deegee_1 stopped chasing bleeding edges ... got burned!09:20
Kilosno man lol. gotta fix unity on other drive still09:27
Kiloswould prefer 12.04 but that also sukkels to see the modem09:27
Kilosit is actually easier to install than to try find a missing nm-applet09:28
deegee_1ok. so before you do a fresh install, did you perhaps googled for clues on how to get nm-applet to work?09:30
deegee_1just trying to understand the need of a fresh install/reinstall....09:31
Kiloswow googled me sick deegee_1 and even tried some of the nano suggestions and other stuff too. but all that stuff just corrupts everything and didnt work anyway09:53
deegee_1understood. noted! tnx oom09:56
Kilosif you battling with something googling is fine but ask here before you do any serious stuff10:05
Kilosthe guys will always point you in the right direction to avoid bad messups10:06
Kilosthats what community is all about methinks10:08
magespawnhelp and learning all at once10:09
Kilosyip and we got some mighty brains here10:09
deegee_1that's true10:11
magespawnKilos how do i measure cicuit continuity with a multimeter?10:20
magespawnfound the the right setting thanks 10:28
magespawnwww.ladyada.net/library/metertut/continuity.html10:28
magespawnor here http://www.electronics-lab.com/articles/multimeter_tutorial/index.html10:29
Kilosaw sorry magespawn was diggin dubbletjies10:34
Kilosohms ya10:34
Kilosor even the diode checker10:34
inetproKilos: don't you want to come dig my dubbletjies as well?11:23
Kilossjoe inetpro dis n meneer job daai. wortels is al diep en grond hard11:24
magespawnnp Kilos11:24
magespawnwhy not just spary them Kilos?11:25
magespawnspray even11:25
* superfly just made his first control field in Ingress, and is *almost* at level 211:25
magespawningress version 1.20.0 does not seem to want to run 11:27
inetpromagespawn: that spray stuff is very expensive man11:29
Kilosinetpro: why you think i dig. sis complains when i ask for it11:31
Kiloswhen i first came here i brought 500ml with11:32
Kilosbut peeps and animals bring the seeds from all over back again11:32
inetproKilos: you don't get very far with 500ml11:32
Kilosi did about half an acre11:32
Kiloswas only clean for about 2 years11:33
magespawnwhich one did you use Kilos?11:38
Kilosinetpro: did you read logs?11:38
Kilosnew install of 12.04 kde saw the modem first time after installing and rebooting then plugging modem11:39
Kilosim so happy11:39
inetproKilos: well done!11:40
inetproI hope that was your last re-install11:40
Kilosnot me man dodo. its the funny way things work here11:41
magespawnfish time bbl\11:42
Kilosk magespawn 11:42
Kilosi go try 12.10 again wbb11:58
Kilosbe good guys11:58
* deegee_1 was battling (2days) with transmission to get it to work, port was closed.12:33
Kilosyay im not alone13:01
Kiloshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xrdp/+bug/84640713:01
inetprodeegee_1: are you referring to transmission as the lightweight BitTorrent client?13:04
* inetpro is no fan of BitTorrent13:05
deegee_1inetpro: yep13:06
inetproseriously, anybody here please convince otherwise and tell me there is a place for BitTorrent 13:06
inetprothat thing is mostly used for illegal downloads of proprietary stuffs13:07
inetproconvince me*13:07
superflyinetpro: I download lots of perfectly legal stuff using BitTorrent13:08
superflyinetpro: one of the things I torrent is OpenLP releases13:08
inetprosuperfly: yikes, does it really solve any problem13:09
inetpro?13:09
superflyinetpro: it's nice for those people who prefer bittorrent, and torrenting is MUCH faster than traditional downloading13:09
superflyespecially over a smaller connection like our ADSL13:09
inetprofaster to clog up all available bandwidth as well13:10
superflythat totally depends on your network13:11
inetprowell if you share a network between a number of users you do not want one user to take it all13:12
inetproand on top of that when you have a slow network, like most of us typically have in this country, I seriously don't see the point13:13
inetprobecause the slow network is the bottleneck13:14
inetprohmm...13:15
* inetpro just wanted to order some coffee for kilos13:15
magespawnmm everytime i have tried torrenting it has not made a significant speed improvement13:27
inetproMaaz: ask Kilos Why are you using xrdp?13:52
Maazinetpro: Sure, I'll ask Kilos on freenode13:52
* inetpro should look into Ubuntu's qatracker - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker13:57
inetprolots of testers needed to get all the images tested in all the situations14:00
magespawnanybody had a look at webos?14:55
magespawnlater all15:15
Kiloshehe what a wonderful day. instead of working on 12.10 to get it going i thought lemme try 12.04 again the same way i did kde this morning15:40
Kilosw000t everything works15:40
superflyKilos: that's probably because you haven't fiddled with it :-P15:42
Kilosrofl15:43
Kilosonly way to get 12.04 to see 3g here now is to plug it in only after the install superfly 15:43
Kilosbut still gotta add a script to get it to auto connect with unity and kde15:44
* Kilos happy15:45
Kilosnow to sort the iptables and sshing again15:46
Kilosyou so cheeky15:46
* Kilos gets out the super doom15:48
inetproKilos: on my way home I also thought maybe I should ask you to try normal Ubuntu 12.04 again... if Kubuntu works, Ubuntu should work as well16:58
Kiloslol16:59
inetprobut I also thought about not telling you as well16:59
Kiloshahaha you crazy peep17:00
inetprobecause maybe it's just better to stick with a working Kubuntu <duck>17:00
Kiloswhat do you think of this17:00
Kiloshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68887217:00
Kilosno rush17:00
Kilosi like kde as well man. better than unity. but there are kde guys here that really know it17:01
Kilosi go eat 17:01
Kilosyo Cantide 17:21
Cantidehello Kilos :)17:22
Cantidebrb!17:22
Cantidehmm17:33
Cantideto cycle tomorrow or not..17:33
Cantidehmmm17:33
Cantide30% chance of rain..17:33
Kilosyou scared of water17:33
Cantidenope17:33
Kilosor scared you slip and fall17:33
Cantidebut i don't want to drive 15 km if it's going to be rained out17:33
Cantidei've cycled in a cyclone :p17:34
Cantideso water isn't really a concern17:34
Cantidebut i know a lot of my friends won't show up if it rains17:34
Kiloslol17:34
Cantideand i want to go to see my friends, too17:34
Kilosah17:34
Kilosthen just go road the block a few times17:34
Kilosthen kick it into the garage17:35
Cantidehaha17:35
Cantidei'll do that in the morning when i wake up17:35
Cantideon my way to gym17:36
Kiloslol17:36
Kilosyou can even run that way but then kick it under the bed17:36
Kilosenjoy17:36
Cantide:)17:36
Cantidei shall17:36
Cantidethanks :)17:36
Cantidewhat are your plans for the weekend?17:39
Kilosbe here same as every weekend17:39
Kilosand watch for Squirm on tv17:40
Kilosin the midmar mile17:40
Cantideooh~17:40
Cantidetwo of my colleagues are also doing it17:40
Cantidegl Squirm :)17:40
Kiloslol he needs it he says he is gonna die17:41
Cantidei'll just look out of the guy squirming :p17:41
Kiloshehe17:41
Kilosworm stroke17:42
Cantide:p17:43
Kilosyo smile4ever 17:54
Kiloswhy the addon to smile again17:54
Kilosmy poor fingers17:54
smile4everhi Kilos :p18:19
smile4eversorry for the late reply18:20
smile4everhow are you, Kilos? :)18:20
smile4everKilos: because it's my original registered name18:20
Kilosgood ty and you smile4ever 18:20
smile4everand I couldn't get on IRC with the nick "smile" :(18:20
Kilosno matter man its too long18:20
Kilosaw18:20
smile4everI'll try to make it short again ;)18:20
Kilossomeone stole it18:20
smile4everand I'm fine18:20
Kilosgood18:20
smile4everno, i registered the nick smile too18:20
smile4ever:)18:20
=== smile4ever is now known as smile
smile:D18:21
Kilosnever mind man im teasing about the nick18:21
smiledo you see me as smile now?18:21
Kilosyes18:21
smilecool. I still see myself as smile4ever, lol18:21
Kiloslol18:21
Kilostwit18:21
smilepidgin.. :p18:21
CantideKilos, use TAB :)18:23
Kiloslol i do 18:23
Kiloswas teasing the kid18:23
Cantidehaha, so then nick length shouldn't bot... aha :p18:23
Kiloshe likes adding funny bits to it18:24
Kilosgotta keep him on his toes18:24
smilehaha, kilos :P18:25
Kilosinetpro, plan jou lewe mooi uit. waneer jy baie tyd het kan ons try daai bios flash op ian se sick pc18:28
Kilosso oor n week of twee18:28
Kiloshey Squirm you seen my channel bot yet?18:30
inetproKilos: uh?18:30
inetproKilos: you think I know it all?18:31
inetproKilos: remember I'm always a newbie18:31
Kilosno i dont but i know you have ways and means of finding things out18:31
Kilosbecause google is your friend18:31
inetproai!18:32
inetprowhy you want to flash the thing?18:32
Kilosim gonna try get it going again and see. some mboards actually have a built in flash tool18:32
inetproand why you using xrdp even?18:32
Kilosit works for a while then crashes in weird ways18:33
Kilosim not man that was a goole reply to blank pink screen18:33
Kilosgoogle18:33
inetproai!18:33
Kilosbut now 12.04 is rocking 2 ways so no prob18:34
inetproso where is the connotation to your problem?18:34
Kiloshuh?18:34
Kilosno launcher or icons or niks18:34
Kilosafter upgrading18:34
inetproyou said: 08/02 15:01:26 <Kilos> yay im not alone18:35
Kilosbefore it working ok18:35
Kilosoh that link man18:35
Kiloslotsa peeps with same prob18:35
inetproyes the bug18:35
Kilosyou getting to good with your copy/paste18:35
inetproxrdp is not able to transmitt unity desktop correct - different clients18:35
inetprobug 84640718:35
inetproKilos: so why you posted that?18:36
Kilosto show its not me with my funny modem and pc alone with probs18:37
Kilosbut actually wanted advice before i tried the fix18:37
inetproai!18:37
Kilosrofl18:37
inetproKilos: it's not as if Ubuntu has no bugs18:38
Kilosn o man dodo but when i said it didnt see my modem you all told me get another decent modem18:38
Kilosand there lotsa peeps with 12.04 no see modem18:39
inetproso what does that have to do with the price of eggs?18:39
Kilosum18:39
Kiloser18:39
Kiloswell18:39
Kilosmaybe you all fulla yokes18:39
Kilosso eggs cant be too expensive18:40
inetproKilos: no, I'm seriously just trying to find the link here18:40
Kilosoh18:40
inetprothe word modem doesn't even appear in that bug page18:40
Kilosman you work it out im too old18:40
Kilosai!18:41
inetprohmm...18:41
Kilosmodem was an example18:41
inetprook18:41
Kilosdidnt want you to say get a new pc because i couldnt install 12.1018:41
Kilosai! ek sukkel darem18:42
inetproKilos: ok, so you found a random bug and said "yay im not alone"?18:42
Kilossjoe what are you smoking18:42
inetproai!18:43
Kilosi also want some18:43
inetprook, let's start afresh18:43
inetprowhat was that link about?18:43
Kilossigh18:43
Kilosok listen carefully18:43
Kiloshave i got your attention?18:43
* inetpro listening very attentively18:44
inetprotrying at least18:44
Kilosi wanted one of you clever peeps to tell me if that was the thing to do to fix my prob18:44
inetprowhile there's lot's more to be done18:44
inetproKilos: what prob?18:44
Kiloswhen i just try stuff from others on the net the fly fights with me18:44
Kilosblank pink screen after upgrading18:45
inetproai!18:45
inetprothat bug has everything to do with xrdp18:45
inetproand you're not using xrdp18:45
Kiloswhite pink and then brown the third install18:45
Kilosi dont even know what that is18:45
Kilosi just googled 12.10 blank screen after upgrading with no launcher18:46
inetproI don't think there's a relationship between that bug and your pink screen, unless for some unknown reason you're using xrdp18:46
Kilosai!18:47
Kiloswas that link not for ubuntu18:47
inetproKilos: seriously, the word pink doesn't even appear in that bug18:47
Kilosi didnt google x anything18:47
Kiloslol18:47
inetprohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xrdp/+bug/84640718:47
Kilosai!\18:47
inetproKilos: so who is smoking something here?18:48
Kiloswell good thing i didnt try fix my pc that way then hey18:48
Kilosits the second hand smoke getting me18:48
inetproai!18:49
inetproKilos: sorry, but I was simply trying to find the connotation to your problem18:49
Kilossjoe have some coffee or something18:49
inetpromaybe there is something but I have not spent the time to try and find out18:49
Kilosnp inetpro i actually didnt read the whole link18:50
Kilosor not properly18:50
inetproI just thought maybe you are using xrdp18:50
Kiloswhat is that18:50
inetproand just wanted to find out why18:50
inetproRemote Desktop Protocol (RDP) server18:51
Kilossee google isnt my friend18:51
Kiloslies to me18:51
Kilosoh18:51
Kilosdo you use it?18:51
inetprono18:51
Kilosoh you didnt listen when i told you about dubbeltjies18:52
inetprowell yes, but no18:52
Kilosmake up your mind18:52
inetproI use krdc to connect to Windows remotely18:52
inetprowhich is basically Windows running a RDP server18:52
inetprobut not with xrdp18:52
Kilosaw i still wanna try that18:52
inetproand on windows it's not called an RDP server18:53
inetprothey call it Terminal Server or some such funny word18:53
Kilosyou need their password to get in hey?18:53
inetproai!18:53
inetprolet's not go there now18:54
Kiloswhat now18:54
* inetpro needs coffee18:54
Kilosno man i wanna try it here18:54
inetprolol18:54
Kilosi want to know if you see the windows pc as text or what18:54
inetproKilos: seriously, I have some work to finish18:54
Kilosmaybe ian can use it to fix clients18:55
Kilosok np18:55
inetprosorry for the shouting and screaming oom18:55
Kiloshuh?18:55
Kilosdont be sorry be careful18:56
inetprolol18:56
Kilosnight all. sleep tight.19:18
smilebye :)19:31
=== magespawn_ is now known as magespawn
SquirmMaaz: tell kilos I've seen him greet people. haven't yet seen what else he can do23:33
MaazSquirm: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode23:33

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