[05:32] morning [06:04] good mornings [06:04] superfly: how's the man doing this morning [06:05] Maaz: tell Kilos Good Morning [06:05] inetpro: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [06:14] good morning all [06:42] morning inetpro superfly magespawn and others too [06:44] inetpro: dunno, he was sleeping when I left [06:44] never woke up last night [06:45] superfly: cool, sleep is good for him [06:46] Kilos: wb [06:46] ty [06:46] what a night [06:47] 12.10 boots to a kinda brown/pink screen with no icons launcher niks [06:48] and i forgot to unplug kde on second drive so that boots to grub now [06:48] grrr [06:49] grub prompt that is [06:50] Kilos I think you should be a Ubuntu tester [06:52] rofl [06:52] if they supply data i will [06:53] 12.10 nm worked and all, then hung when installing all downloaded upgrades [06:53] then second time boots to brown screen [06:54] 800m data used but got bit more clever second time around. ctrl+alt+f2 and rsynced archives to storage partition [06:57] nice [06:57] data and ubuntu guru [06:57] have you kept track of how many installs you have done? [06:58] but now no gui so cant start nm and install kubuntu-desktop [06:58] lol must be 100"s [06:59] i am pretty sure you can use the non gui version of nm [06:59] whatevere it is called [06:59] oh [07:00] a lot of the gui stuff in ubuntu is just front end stuff [07:00] let me see [07:00] oh i read somewhere once about starting nm from cli [07:01] the guy even said for servers and peeps that wanna play some [07:01] nmcli is the command also has a man page [07:02] ai! [07:02] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man1/nmcli.1.html [07:02] noman pages for noobs [07:02] ok ty i go see [07:08] yeah if there can be problems then i will get them hey? murphy lives here [07:12] kde reinstalled. need sim for fone to get it updated. wbb [07:17] magespawn: I agree, he should be a Ubuntu Tester [07:19] and he should be employed and get paid to test these things [07:19] Kilos does things to his machine that most would not even think of, let alone attempt [07:19] ohayo gozaimasu everyone [07:20] whoever employs him must just let him work right there from his home where he can look after his sister's sheep [07:20] deegee_1: wb [07:25] hey deegee_1 [07:25] i think he would do it just for the data [07:25] o/ [07:27] oh my goodness. kde saw modem first time [07:27] after so many installs of not seeing it [07:27] holy moly [07:28] sigh back to pling instead of bloep [07:37] maybe i should just install kde and let someone else help noobs with unity [07:37] hehe [07:38] hi [07:40] Kilos: is that on 12.04? [07:40] hey Squirm [07:41] good morning Squirm [07:45] yeah magespawn on ians 500g drive that i had to use sakis3g before [07:45] hi Squirm [07:47] TCT Mobile International Limited HSPA Data Card [07:47] thats what it sees. dont like the word limited much [07:48] maybe i should try get flash firmware for it? [07:49] hi deegee_1 [07:51] hi Kilos .... o/ [08:09] Kilos: maybe it is limited to only HSPA [08:10] but thats already faster than our ip poeps provide hey? [08:10] s/poeps/peeps [08:10] all of the time [08:11] poeps is right [08:11] who is sick by the fly? [08:11] not sure, why? [08:11] a chillen [08:12] saw him tell pro he was still sleeping [08:13] ah yes [08:13] sleeping is usually a good sign [08:18] anybody know the command to show the size of /boot cannot seem to find anything via google [08:19] found somethinf just need to ask the right question [08:23] du [08:37] you see inetpro , same drive, pc and modem and now kde sees it first off on this install [08:38] if you can explain what changed i would be very happy [08:38] maybe the updates to kde Kilos [08:39] no man it saw it before i did updates. installed first then plugged modem [08:40] yes but is it the latest kde? [08:40] unity was other way around. connect before rebooting then unplug and reboot [08:40] no 12.04 [08:40] no ide then [08:41] s/ide/idea [08:41] i wonder if there is away to snapshot the system to document any differences? [08:41] gotta go out for a bit bbl [08:44] wow [08:44] i think all the install files and what is done goes with each install [08:45] dunno if there will be cat or tail or any other info left [08:53] would be nice to save the whole install process so one can read where things are different when stuff dont work [08:54] Kilos: you re-installed your desktop? or switched to kde? [08:54] reinstalled on one drive [08:55] kept /home partition [08:55] i like a seperate /home [08:55] ok, the install gave you problems or something? [08:56] the previous install i meant... [09:07] lol yeah deegee_1 about ten or more couldnt sees my modem [09:07] had to use cell to get sakis3g [09:10] but was all network-manager probs. till unity 12.10 then other stuffs [09:10] grrr [09:12] after upgrading. white screen, black screen and latest is a pink that changed to brown as i watched it for an hour [09:12] hehe [09:18] hihihihihi ..... [09:19] now that surely is something not to be happy about? [09:19] so, you are now using KDE and that's it? no more reinstalls perhaps? [09:20] * deegee_1 stopped chasing bleeding edges ... got burned! [09:27] no man lol. gotta fix unity on other drive still [09:27] would prefer 12.04 but that also sukkels to see the modem [09:28] it is actually easier to install than to try find a missing nm-applet [09:30] ok. so before you do a fresh install, did you perhaps googled for clues on how to get nm-applet to work? [09:31] just trying to understand the need of a fresh install/reinstall.... [09:53] wow googled me sick deegee_1 and even tried some of the nano suggestions and other stuff too. but all that stuff just corrupts everything and didnt work anyway [09:56] understood. noted! tnx oom [10:05] if you battling with something googling is fine but ask here before you do any serious stuff [10:06] the guys will always point you in the right direction to avoid bad messups [10:08] thats what community is all about methinks [10:09] help and learning all at once [10:09] yip and we got some mighty brains here [10:11] that's true [10:20] Kilos how do i measure cicuit continuity with a multimeter? [10:28] found the the right setting thanks [10:28] www.ladyada.net/library/metertut/continuity.html [10:29] or here http://www.electronics-lab.com/articles/multimeter_tutorial/index.html [10:34] aw sorry magespawn was diggin dubbletjies [10:34] ohms ya [10:34] or even the diode checker [11:23] Kilos: don't you want to come dig my dubbletjies as well? [11:24] sjoe inetpro dis n meneer job daai. wortels is al diep en grond hard [11:24] np Kilos [11:25] why not just spary them Kilos? [11:25] spray even [11:25] * superfly just made his first control field in Ingress, and is *almost* at level 2 [11:27] ingress version 1.20.0 does not seem to want to run [11:29] magespawn: that spray stuff is very expensive man [11:31] inetpro: why you think i dig. sis complains when i ask for it [11:32] when i first came here i brought 500ml with [11:32] but peeps and animals bring the seeds from all over back again [11:32] Kilos: you don't get very far with 500ml [11:32] i did about half an acre [11:33] was only clean for about 2 years [11:38] which one did you use Kilos? [11:38] inetpro: did you read logs? [11:39] new install of 12.04 kde saw the modem first time after installing and rebooting then plugging modem [11:39] im so happy [11:40] Kilos: well done! [11:40] I hope that was your last re-install [11:41] not me man dodo. its the funny way things work here [11:42] fish time bbl\ [11:42] k magespawn [11:58] i go try 12.10 again wbb [11:58] be good guys [12:33] * deegee_1 was battling (2days) with transmission to get it to work, port was closed. [13:01] yay im not alone [13:01] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xrdp/+bug/846407 [13:04] deegee_1: are you referring to transmission as the lightweight BitTorrent client? [13:05] * inetpro is no fan of BitTorrent [13:06] inetpro: yep [13:06] seriously, anybody here please convince otherwise and tell me there is a place for BitTorrent [13:07] that thing is mostly used for illegal downloads of proprietary stuffs [13:07] convince me* [13:08] inetpro: I download lots of perfectly legal stuff using BitTorrent [13:08] inetpro: one of the things I torrent is OpenLP releases [13:09] superfly: yikes, does it really solve any problem [13:09] ? [13:09] inetpro: it's nice for those people who prefer bittorrent, and torrenting is MUCH faster than traditional downloading [13:09] especially over a smaller connection like our ADSL [13:10] faster to clog up all available bandwidth as well [13:11] that totally depends on your network [13:12] well if you share a network between a number of users you do not want one user to take it all [13:13] and on top of that when you have a slow network, like most of us typically have in this country, I seriously don't see the point [13:14] because the slow network is the bottleneck [13:15] hmm... [13:15] * inetpro just wanted to order some coffee for kilos [13:27] mm everytime i have tried torrenting it has not made a significant speed improvement [13:52] Maaz: ask Kilos Why are you using xrdp? [13:52] inetpro: Sure, I'll ask Kilos on freenode [13:57] * inetpro should look into Ubuntu's qatracker - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker [14:00] lots of testers needed to get all the images tested in all the situations [14:55] anybody had a look at webos? [15:15] later all [15:40] hehe what a wonderful day. instead of working on 12.10 to get it going i thought lemme try 12.04 again the same way i did kde this morning [15:40] w000t everything works [15:42] Kilos: that's probably because you haven't fiddled with it :-P [15:43] rofl [15:43] only way to get 12.04 to see 3g here now is to plug it in only after the install superfly [15:44] but still gotta add a script to get it to auto connect with unity and kde [15:45] * Kilos happy [15:46] now to sort the iptables and sshing again [15:46] you so cheeky [15:48] * Kilos gets out the super doom [16:58] Kilos: on my way home I also thought maybe I should ask you to try normal Ubuntu 12.04 again... if Kubuntu works, Ubuntu should work as well [16:59] lol [16:59] but I also thought about not telling you as well [17:00] hahaha you crazy peep [17:00] because maybe it's just better to stick with a working Kubuntu [17:00] what do you think of this [17:00] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688872 [17:00] no rush [17:01] i like kde as well man. better than unity. but there are kde guys here that really know it [17:01] i go eat [17:21] yo Cantide [17:22] hello Kilos :) [17:22] brb! [17:33] hmm [17:33] to cycle tomorrow or not.. [17:33] hmmm [17:33] 30% chance of rain.. [17:33] you scared of water [17:33] nope [17:33] or scared you slip and fall [17:33] but i don't want to drive 15 km if it's going to be rained out [17:34] i've cycled in a cyclone :p [17:34] so water isn't really a concern [17:34] but i know a lot of my friends won't show up if it rains [17:34] lol [17:34] and i want to go to see my friends, too [17:34] ah [17:34] then just go road the block a few times [17:35] then kick it into the garage [17:35] haha [17:35] i'll do that in the morning when i wake up [17:36] on my way to gym [17:36] lol [17:36] you can even run that way but then kick it under the bed [17:36] enjoy [17:36] :) [17:36] i shall [17:36] thanks :) [17:39] what are your plans for the weekend? [17:39] be here same as every weekend [17:40] and watch for Squirm on tv [17:40] in the midmar mile [17:40] ooh~ [17:40] two of my colleagues are also doing it [17:40] gl Squirm :) [17:41] lol he needs it he says he is gonna die [17:41] i'll just look out of the guy squirming :p [17:41] hehe [17:42] worm stroke [17:43] :p [17:54] yo smile4ever [17:54] why the addon to smile again [17:54] my poor fingers [18:19] hi Kilos :p [18:20] sorry for the late reply [18:20] how are you, Kilos? :) [18:20] Kilos: because it's my original registered name [18:20] good ty and you smile4ever [18:20] and I couldn't get on IRC with the nick "smile" :( [18:20] no matter man its too long [18:20] aw [18:20] I'll try to make it short again ;) [18:20] someone stole it [18:20] and I'm fine [18:20] good [18:20] no, i registered the nick smile too [18:20] :) === smile4ever is now known as smile [18:21] :D [18:21] never mind man im teasing about the nick [18:21] do you see me as smile now? [18:21] yes [18:21] cool. I still see myself as smile4ever, lol [18:21] lol [18:21] twit [18:21] pidgin.. :p [18:23] Kilos, use TAB :) [18:23] lol i do [18:23] was teasing the kid [18:23] haha, so then nick length shouldn't bot... aha :p [18:24] he likes adding funny bits to it [18:24] gotta keep him on his toes [18:25] haha, kilos :P [18:28] inetpro, plan jou lewe mooi uit. waneer jy baie tyd het kan ons try daai bios flash op ian se sick pc [18:28] so oor n week of twee [18:30] hey Squirm you seen my channel bot yet? [18:30] Kilos: uh? [18:31] Kilos: you think I know it all? [18:31] Kilos: remember I'm always a newbie [18:31] no i dont but i know you have ways and means of finding things out [18:31] because google is your friend [18:32] ai! [18:32] why you want to flash the thing? [18:32] im gonna try get it going again and see. some mboards actually have a built in flash tool [18:32] and why you using xrdp even? [18:33] it works for a while then crashes in weird ways [18:33] im not man that was a goole reply to blank pink screen [18:33] google [18:33] ai! [18:34] but now 12.04 is rocking 2 ways so no prob [18:34] so where is the connotation to your problem? [18:34] huh? [18:34] no launcher or icons or niks [18:34] after upgrading [18:35] you said: 08/02 15:01:26 yay im not alone [18:35] before it working ok [18:35] oh that link man [18:35] lotsa peeps with same prob [18:35] yes the bug [18:35] you getting to good with your copy/paste [18:35] xrdp is not able to transmitt unity desktop correct - different clients [18:35] bug 846407 [18:36] Kilos: so why you posted that? [18:37] to show its not me with my funny modem and pc alone with probs [18:37] but actually wanted advice before i tried the fix [18:37] ai! [18:37] rofl [18:38] Kilos: it's not as if Ubuntu has no bugs [18:38] n o man dodo but when i said it didnt see my modem you all told me get another decent modem [18:39] and there lotsa peeps with 12.04 no see modem [18:39] so what does that have to do with the price of eggs? [18:39] um [18:39] er [18:39] well [18:39] maybe you all fulla yokes [18:40] so eggs cant be too expensive [18:40] Kilos: no, I'm seriously just trying to find the link here [18:40] oh [18:40] the word modem doesn't even appear in that bug page [18:40] man you work it out im too old [18:41] ai! [18:41] hmm... [18:41] modem was an example [18:41] ok [18:41] didnt want you to say get a new pc because i couldnt install 12.10 [18:42] ai! ek sukkel darem [18:42] Kilos: ok, so you found a random bug and said "yay im not alone"? [18:42] sjoe what are you smoking [18:43] ai! [18:43] i also want some [18:43] ok, let's start afresh [18:43] what was that link about? [18:43] sigh [18:43] ok listen carefully [18:43] have i got your attention? [18:44] * inetpro listening very attentively [18:44] trying at least [18:44] i wanted one of you clever peeps to tell me if that was the thing to do to fix my prob [18:44] while there's lot's more to be done [18:44] Kilos: what prob? [18:44] when i just try stuff from others on the net the fly fights with me [18:45] blank pink screen after upgrading [18:45] ai! [18:45] that bug has everything to do with xrdp [18:45] and you're not using xrdp [18:45] white pink and then brown the third install [18:45] i dont even know what that is [18:46] i just googled 12.10 blank screen after upgrading with no launcher [18:46] I don't think there's a relationship between that bug and your pink screen, unless for some unknown reason you're using xrdp [18:47] ai! [18:47] was that link not for ubuntu [18:47] Kilos: seriously, the word pink doesn't even appear in that bug [18:47] i didnt google x anything [18:47] lol [18:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xrdp/+bug/846407 [18:47] ai!\ [18:48] Kilos: so who is smoking something here? [18:48] well good thing i didnt try fix my pc that way then hey [18:48] its the second hand smoke getting me [18:49] ai! [18:49] Kilos: sorry, but I was simply trying to find the connotation to your problem [18:49] sjoe have some coffee or something [18:49] maybe there is something but I have not spent the time to try and find out [18:50] np inetpro i actually didnt read the whole link [18:50] or not properly [18:50] I just thought maybe you are using xrdp [18:50] what is that [18:50] and just wanted to find out why [18:51] Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) server [18:51] see google isnt my friend [18:51] lies to me [18:51] oh [18:51] do you use it? [18:51] no [18:52] oh you didnt listen when i told you about dubbeltjies [18:52] well yes, but no [18:52] make up your mind [18:52] I use krdc to connect to Windows remotely [18:52] which is basically Windows running a RDP server [18:52] but not with xrdp [18:52] aw i still wanna try that [18:53] and on windows it's not called an RDP server [18:53] they call it Terminal Server or some such funny word [18:53] you need their password to get in hey? [18:53] ai! [18:54] let's not go there now [18:54] what now [18:54] * inetpro needs coffee [18:54] no man i wanna try it here [18:54] lol [18:54] i want to know if you see the windows pc as text or what [18:54] Kilos: seriously, I have some work to finish [18:55] maybe ian can use it to fix clients [18:55] ok np [18:55] sorry for the shouting and screaming oom [18:55] huh? [18:56] dont be sorry be careful [18:56] lol [19:18] night all. sleep tight. [19:31] bye :) === magespawn_ is now known as magespawn [23:33] Maaz: tell kilos I've seen him greet people. haven't yet seen what else he can do [23:33] Squirm: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode