[00:09] Evening guys :) Just a quick "uh-oh" for you. I'm trying to commit an edit to bug 1023645 on launchpad, and it's consistently timing out. I don't know if it's right down or just some technical probs. Thought I'd just give you a heads up in case you had anything to do on there :) [00:09] bug 1023645 in ndiswrapper (Ubuntu Quantal) "ndiswrapper-dkms 1.57-1ubuntu1: ndiswrapper kernel module failed to build [error: ‘struct kernel_stat’ has no member named ‘cpustat’]" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1023645 [00:10] BarkingFish: too many dupes maybe. [00:11] #launchpad can help, as repeated timeouts warrant a bug report [00:11] ok, i just joined there, i'm gonna let them know [00:11] (if anyone's awake there) [00:11] it's weekend after all :/ [00:13] yeah :) 1.11 am here, and I'm desperately trying to sink an unpleasant feeling in my stomach :) [00:14] A couple of beers should do that, but they haven't. I had to treat someone for a nosebleed earlier, and it's the one thing - only one thing - in my job, which makes me feel like revisiting dinner. === emma_ is now known as em [00:44] btw, yofel, was it you who pinged up the bug on plasma-desktop crashing on login? [00:49] can't remember right now... I can think of many plasma bugs... [00:49] yeah - i have a stack of updates here for kde though, and I'm concerned about applying them for fear of getting effectively locked out of plasma. === Jacky_ is now known as zz_Jacky_ === zz_Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine [03:37] Good morning chaps === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky [05:10] ::workspace-bugs:: [1082394] krunner freezes @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1082394 (by Manuel López-Ibáñez) [06:00] ::runtime-bugs:: [1120077] Upgrade to 4.10 leads to terminal related artifacts on the desktop @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1120077 (by bastafidli) === jackyalcine is now known as Guest97826 === Guest97826 is now known as jackyalcine [07:26] hello everyone [07:26] Hey phoenix_firebrd [07:27] smartboyhw: hi [07:43] Oh no, there is a smarter who is smarter than smartboyhw:P [07:44] :) [07:45] phoenix_firebrd, are you on 12.04 or 13.04 (or 12.10)/ [07:45] ? [07:49] smartboyhw: 12.10 [07:49] brb [07:58] smartboyhw: i am in 12.10 with backports enabled [07:58] smartboyhw: ?? [08:00] phoenix_firebrd, I want someone with 12.04:P [08:00] smartboyhw: oh ok [08:45] Good morning, does someone have 13.04 installed on a laptop? [08:52] lordievader, I did [08:54] smartboyhw: Do you recognize this: after you had woken the laptop from its slumber, the case fan start to blow at 100% rpm, while there is no process hogging the cpu. The cpu is around 30 degrees btw. [08:59] hmm [08:59] lordievader: do you have nepomuk enabled? [09:00] usually my CPU usage spikes when virtuoso is doing itself [09:00] s/itself/something/ [09:00] shadeslayer meant: "usually my CPU usage spikes when virtuoso is doing something" [09:00] shadeslayer: After it crashed on every boot I have disabled it. However I have not yet rebooted since I disabled it. [09:00] okay [09:01] ps aux | grep virtuoso [09:01] Shall I reboot and verify if the behaviour is still there? [09:01] yeah, reboot and check if it's still there [09:01] and odd that it crashed [09:01] Process isn't running right now. [09:02] There were quite a few duplicate bug on the crash of nepomuk. [09:05] Rebooted and put to sleep, wakes up with 100% rpm on the fan. [09:07] <5% cpu usage, cpu temp: 25~30 C [09:08] :S [09:08] what laptop is this? [09:08] because I remember my macbook having dead fans on boot, turned out to be a kernel issue [09:09] An older one: HP Compaq 6730s [09:11] I'll see if my HP Elitebook 8560w has the same problem, bbl. === jackyalcine is now known as zz_jackyalcine [09:21] lordievader: interenet says to blacklist the video module [09:21] The 13.04 installation is on an external drive, if I boot from there on the elitebook it does not give me the menu option of sleep/standby. However if I issue it with pm-suspend and then wake it up there is no problem. When I do the same on the compaq there is still the bug. [09:22] Not sure what module to blacklist. [09:24] I wouldn't really blacklist that module [09:25] afaik it's what drives the display [09:25] see http://www.linlap.com/hp-compaq_6730s [09:26] You mean the comment: add "blacklist video" to the blacklist file. [09:26] yep [09:26] do you have fglrx installed? [09:26] or the open source radeon driver [09:27] There are different models of this laptop, this one got an intel gfx chip. [09:27] oh [09:28] the intel stuff works great out of the box [09:28] Yes they do, the whole laptop works great out of the box actually. [09:29] I have no idea tbh, maybe #ubuntu can help [09:30] Hmm does not fix it. Well it doesn't matter much to me, I just thought if this was occuring to more laptops it might be a bug with 13.04. [09:31] nope, works fine for me [09:31] except when virtuoso takes one entire core [09:31] As it did on my other laptop. [09:31] lordievader: might also be worth filing a bug against the kernel on launchpad? [09:32] lordievader: actually, that happens only once or twice every 12 hours :) [09:33] I ment that waking up without the fan going haywire works on the other laptop. I haven't seen any cpu spikes on 13.04 yet. [09:33] bah [09:33] Riddell: plasma-mobile is still stuck [09:34] says "Valid candidate" [11:32] Riddell, shadeslayer one question: Is MOTU (Masters of the Universe) named after a film with the same time? [11:34] BTW, anyone here IS doing plasmate? === Adityab_ is now known as Adityab [12:08] hi :D [12:14] Hi Peace- [12:24] Peace-: hi [12:24] hey [12:32] hum [12:33] It seems that everyone forgot to upload the kde-l10n backports [12:33] (I guess me always doing it has a part in that) [12:33] * yofel gets to work [12:37] smartboyhw: yes it has some relation to the He-Man film [12:49] Riddell, Wow! [12:50] Chinese New Year coming in 3:10 hours [12:51] smartboyhw: Happy Chinese new year! [12:57] lordievader, not yet:P [12:57] Since I'm from Hong Kong that's why I mentioned it [12:58] smartboyhw: I've been there last year, man that city is large and busy. [13:09] * yofel requested some more space for backports [13:24] smartboyhw: not out partying and watching fireworks? [13:24] thanks yofel [13:28] Riddell, no fireworks today [13:28] It is on I think Monday [13:28] lordievader, yes:) [13:29] smartboyhw: happy new year [13:29] phoenix_firebrd, not yet. It is based on GMT+8 [13:29] And now it is still 9:29 PM here [13:29] Which is GMT+8 [13:30] smartboyhw: I am in india [13:30] smartboyhw: its +5.30 for me [13:31] phoenix_firebrd, you want to do the Plasmate packaging? [13:31] smartboyhw: queue is full for me [13:31] !testers new ISO 20120209 has arrived [13:31] smartboyhw: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [13:31] Damn how to use it Riddell ? [13:31] !testers | new ISO 20120209 of Precise has arrived [13:31] new ISO 20120209 of Precise has arrived: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information. [13:32] Got it:P [13:34] Riddell: one of the patch file in xfs has 70 chunks and it needs to be refreshed, can i package it at last? [13:35] Riddell: *hunks [13:37] Riddell, apachelogger added me to sftp.kde.org for calligra packaging about 4-5 days ago. Now that I've changed my ssh key, can you re-enable my access? [13:39] phoenix_firebrd: in xfs? we're not talking kde here are we? [13:39] smartboyhw: yeah can do [13:39] Riddell: ya , here http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/uehs/no_updated.html [13:39] Riddell, just use the new ssh key in my Launchpad page: https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw [13:40] phoenix_firebrd: check if upstream accepted some of the patches [13:41] shadeslayer: thats by checking the commit logs? [13:41] yep [13:41] shadeslayer: ok [13:42] shadeslayer: why are some package names with version are inconsistant with standars? [13:42] like? [13:43] shadeslayer: sadms pkg-ubu-2.0.16 [13:43] shadeslayer: i used the v option [13:44] shadeslayer: this is the present version in ubuntu 2.0.15.repack-0ubuntu2 [13:44] you mean : 2.0.15.repack-0ubuntu2 [13:44] right [13:44] that's fine [13:44] it indicates that the tarball was repacked [13:44] for some reason [13:45] shadeslayer: so i can just _ ? [13:45] isn't that the norm> [13:45] shadeslayer: ok [13:45] srcname_version.orig.tar.foo [13:46] where foo is one of xz, bz2 or gz [13:46] shadeslayer: so i can rename it right? [13:46] sure [13:47] upstream will usually name the tar : src-version.tar.foo [13:47] shadeslayer: can the original arch be used without renaming ? [13:47] or zip/rar in some weird cases [13:47] original arch? [13:47] shadeslayer: the one that uupdate downloads and which will be uploaded to launchpad by dput [13:48] ahh [13:49] yes, you can rename it, but please try and not to ;) [13:49] we usually don't rename tars, unless we absolutely have to [13:49] shadeslayer: no i asked can we use that without renaming [13:49] smartboyhw done [13:49] Riddell, thx [13:50] phoenix_firebrd: well I doubt there's an easy way to do it, apply the patch and look at the bits that don't apply and work out what needs to be done [13:50] phoenix_firebrd: weren't you working on telepathy packaging and something else? [13:50] Riddell: thats not the issue, i am thinking of putting it at the end of my work queue [13:51] Riddell: telepathy work is done is parallel [13:55] Riddell: I am preparing a list for my personal purposes and for updating the file. This is the one http://paste.kde.org/668144/ [13:57] Time to test the new 12.04.2 image. [13:58] shadeslayer: some of the packages asks to install certain packages before building else debuild fails, how does the launchpad machines identify these packages but not my pbuilder install? [13:58] shadeslayer: for example i had to install dpatch for debuild to succeed [13:58] if you use pbuilder it should automatically install those deps [13:59] ahhh [13:59] you need to have some of the things installed that debian/rules needs [13:59] like pkg-kde-tools if you use the debhelper kde addon [13:59] how else will debuild know what to do :) [13:59] shadeslayer: so those machines in the launchpad how do they process these automatically? [14:00] phoenix_firebrd: Build Depends? [14:00] shadeslayer: so i should add dpatch to build deps? [14:00] is it not there already? [14:01] shadeslayer: ya, also i feel that these packages are need to be preinstalled before anything, i may be wrong [14:01] sorry, I don't follow ... [14:02] shadeslayer: wait [14:02] what launchpad does is that it installs some packages, unpacks the source and packaging, installs the build deps and starts building [14:02] shadeslayer: try packaging mpich [14:04] make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/dpatch/dpatch.make'. Stop. [14:04] that [14:04] ? [14:04] shadeslayer: ya [14:04] !find dpatch.make [14:04] File dpatch.make found in dpatch [14:04] right, so if you read line 44 of debian/rules [14:04] include /usr/share/dpatch/dpatch.make [14:05] shadeslayer: checking [14:05] shadeslayer: so? [14:05] and I see dpatch in Build-Depends [14:05] phoenix_firebrd: it uses dpatch for patches [14:05] instead of quilt [14:06] shadeslayer: ya [14:06] ( guessing here ) [14:06] shadeslayer: so now dpatch have to be installed right? [14:06] yes [14:06] shadeslayer: then how does launchpad automate it? [14:06] well .. dpatch is installed because it's there in the build-depends [14:07] so it gets installed with all the other Build Dependencies [14:07] shadeslayer: in that case why the error? [14:07] because debuild doesn't automagically install the build-deps [14:08] shadeslayer: what should be done so that the debuild succeeds without errors? [14:08] install dpatch [14:08] shadeslayer: ok i understood [14:08] :P [14:09] shadeslayer: do people put this as a comment somewhere? [14:09] nope [14:10] shadeslayer: ok [14:10] if you're a maintainer, you usually have these tools installed [14:10] for eg. the debian maintainer of mpich is comfortable with dpatch [14:10] instead of quilt [14:10] shadeslayer: ok, i am preparing a chat with these comments for my personal purposes [14:10] sure [14:11] shadeslayer: *chart [14:11] shadeslayer: one more doubt [14:11] phoenix_firebrd: if someone is trying to package KDE but has gnome installed, I wouldn't expect him to have pkg-kde-tools installed [14:11] shadeslayer: right [14:11] and s/he will hit the exact same issue [14:11] sure [14:13] shadeslayer: when doing uupdate for a package the resulting folder downloaded contains the latest version of that software packaged to deb with the .dsc file and the original tar, so should i just upload it to my ppa? [14:13] did you test build it? [14:14] if it builds fine, sounds good [14:14] shadeslayer: haven't tested it [14:14] Riddell: could you have a look at plasma-mobile? [14:14] stuck in proposed it is [14:15] phoenix_firebrd: upload to PPA and then test it? [14:15] shadeslayer: thats what i thought :) [14:16] shadeslayer: hum something about kubuntu-active [14:16] but not sure what [14:16] maybe it's sitll not installable [14:16] shadeslayer: Thats all now, build failed because of no disk space , going to try resizing my root , hope it will go smooth [14:16] heh [14:22] hello everyone! [14:28] Hiyas all [14:31] Got Dolphin an Konqueror freeze when I right-click on a file, any hint? [14:34] BluesKaj: hi [14:35] gerlos, updated /upgraded lately ? [14:35] hi phoenix_firebrd [14:35] brb [14:35] BluesKaj: yes, from kubuntu-backports PPA [14:36] to 4.10 then [14:37] BluesKaj: right, I'm on 4.10 [14:38] BluesKaj: just disabled ALL the services for the right click menu, freezes seem gone, but right click menu doesn't appear "instantly", it tooks a 2-3 secs... [14:38] BluesKaj: I suppose I have to do some trial and error to find the bad service... [14:39] gerlos try resetting the menubar style in app appearance >fine tuning [14:40] BluesKaj: it's already there. But I'm using the "window menubar" plasmoid in a panel, may it be connected with the problem? [14:40] I had the same symptoms yesterday ...I set the menubar to "in application" then rebooted [14:44] gerlos , I just tried the window menubar in the panel , works ok [14:45] no freezing when right clicking on files [14:46] BluesKaj: right, disabling all the services averything seems to work fine [14:47] you can also choose to have a menubar at the top of your screen , which is pretty neat ..set it in fine tuning [14:47] disabling which services , gerlos ? [14:49] BluesKaj: went to Settings -> Configure dolphin -> services and disabled everything [14:50] gerlos, that seems rather drastic :P [14:51] BluesKaj: right, but at least now we know that's one (or some) of those services fault... [14:52] have you updated / upgraded today , gerlos ..also dist-upgrade [14:53] BluesKaj: did it yesterday, I'll do it again now [14:56] BluesKaj: did it, installed just an updated localization package [14:57] which kubuntu, gerlos ? [14:58] BluesKaj: I'm running kubuntu 12.10, I always upgrade from previous releases [14:58] ok [15:01] Riddell, can't seem to connect to sftp.kde.org === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [15:05] shadeslayer: this is what you meant for ktp-desktop-applets debian/copyright? http://paste.kde.org/668228/ [15:08] smartboyhw: ftpmaster.kde.org [15:08] smartboyhw: but what do you need? [15:08] Riddell, ah sorry === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [15:12] Riddell: is this correct for ktp-desktop-applets debian/copyright ? http://paste.kde.org/668228/ [15:15] BluesKaj: reactivated almost all the services, still no freezes... boh! [15:16] gerlos, good :) [15:16] BluesKaj: anyway, thanks for yrou support! [15:17] During installation of 12.04.2 the release notes point to kubuntu.org/news is this correct? [15:21] gerlos, np === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [16:01] Happy Chinese New Year!!!!! [16:07] ScottK: hello, I wanted to do some more testing, and I saw that there are no more results on this page: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/254/builds/37267/testcases [16:07] what happened? [16:07] the results there were submited are gone [16:08] ovidiu-florin, new build maybe [16:09] it was for 12.04.2 [16:09] ovidiu-florin, yes new build [16:09] ok.... [16:10] that means I have to redo the tests? [16:10] -queuebot/#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Precise 12.04.2] has been updated (20130209) [16:10] -queuebot/#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Precise 12.04.2] has been updated (20130209) [16:10] ovidiu-florin, well frankly yes [16:10] oh... [16:10] does this happen often? [16:10] ovidiu-florin, um sort of [16:12] why? [16:14] smartboyhw: happy new year :) [16:14] ovidiu-florin, when there is a bug fixed in precise, there is a need to build new ISOs [16:14] phoenix_firebrd, thx [16:26] thank's for the help [16:26] have to go now [16:26] see you soon [16:31] bbl === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === Jacky_ is now known as zz_Jacky_ === zz_Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky_ === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Jacky_ is now known as zz_Jacky_ === zz_Jacky_ is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as Jacky [17:55] my god but really this kind of rule exist ? [17:55] link to let me google for you it's rude? [17:55] wrong channel [17:55] i don't know [17:56] Peace-: you know devel channel is not place to discuss support channel rules [17:56] well i don't remember the one [17:56] kubuntu-ops? [17:56] Peace-: you could have asked (; [17:56] Tm_T: Well techically it is since we are the only ones providing support :P [17:57] Quintasan: not really [17:57] Peace-: #ubuntu-ops [17:57] omg ubuntu [17:57] no.. [17:57] i prefered to leave these stupid conversation off from my life [17:58] noone is asking you to continue on the topic (: [17:58] infact i will close here [19:42] 1002 google plus users are part of the Kubuntu community over there :) [19:45] jtechidna: Is the backend code for prompting for upgrading to a new release any different for Kubuntu than on Ubuntu? [19:48] nope, both use MetaReleaseCore from python3-update-manager === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [19:49] ScottK: ^ [19:49] Thanks. [19:57] ::workspace-bugs:: [1120553] veromix-plasmoid can't be loaded @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1120553 (by Cole Mickens) === jono is now known as Guest81896 === Jacky is now known as zz_Jacky [21:30] Riddell: around? [22:37] fun, kdesdk just moved to git [23:05] http://madsheytan.blogspot.com/2013/02/poszukiwanie-nowych-rozwiazan.html