[00:12] <kbana> i fuckin "love" kde! thank u god. makes me more happy
[00:43] <Walzmyn> james147: if your still around, renaming the plasma config files did not help
[00:43] <james147> Walzmyn: which one did you rename?
[00:44] <Walzmyn> everything that started with plasma
[00:44] <james147> Walzmyn: then restarted plasma?
[00:44] <Walzmyn> yep
[00:45] <james147> Walzmyn: try stopping plasma first, it could be regenerating them on close, if that fails then it is probably another config
[00:46] <james147> Walzmyn: could also be ~/.kde/share/apps/plasma-desktop
[00:47] <james147> or .../apps/desktoptheme/
[00:55] <Walzmyn> james147: i loged out the first time
[00:55] <Walzmyn> sorry, I got called away again
[01:52] <mr-rich> Ok ... Just applied the latest KDE upgrades to my Kubuntu install (12.04 LTS) ... How do I keep my screen from idle locking with password?
[02:15] <kbana> dunno mr-rich, but r u satisfied with ur latest KDE upgrade? Is your system stable?
[02:20] <kbana> primestable?
[02:37] <zoot78> hhh
[02:37] <zoot78> hey
[02:50] <kbana> hi
[03:42] <urlwolf> I moved from kubuntu to gnome shell remix;
[03:42] <urlwolf> and some apps didn't get the gtk 3 styling (libreoffice for example)
[03:42] <urlwolf> why is that?
[03:42] <urlwolf> I guess since I installed under kde, it took whatever skin kde told them to; there's a setting for gtk
[03:42] <urlwolf> now they look like win95 on gnome shell
[03:42] <FloodBotK1> urlwolf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:45] <tsimpson> urlwolf: the libreoffice-kde package is what attempts to theme libreoffice with KDE styles
[03:50] <urlwolf> tsimpson: so I do sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*
[03:50] <urlwolf> then reinstall with -gnome?
[03:52] <tsimpson> urlwolf: you can just remove the -kde package and/or install the -gnome package
[03:53] <tsimpson> you don't need to remove the entire thing, just the specific -kde/-gnome packages
[03:53] <tsimpson> I'd suggest trying to install the libreoffice-gnome package and see if that looks better, if not then remove the libreoffice-kde package
[03:54] <tsimpson> I don't actually use libreoffice, but that's what I'd try
[03:59] <urlwolf> tsimpson: just did that
[04:00] <urlwolf> didn't work
[04:00] <urlwolf> or do I need to reboot?
[04:00] <urlwolf> It's also happening with scrivener, another tool
[04:00] <urlwolf> it has scrollbar, menubr, etc as it if was win95
[04:02] <tsimpson> urlwolf: did you try removing the libreoffice-kde package too?
[04:02] <urlwolf> yep
[04:02] <urlwolf> and oxigen style
[04:02] <urlwolf> whichwas not applied, but still
[04:04] <urlwolf> should I try purge?
[04:05] <tsimpson> it shouldn't matter afaik
[04:05] <tsimpson> have you tried the libreoffice-gtk3 package?
[04:06] <tsimpson> I don't think that one is installed by default
[04:08] <urlwolf> just tried it after a purge
[04:08] <urlwolf> libreoffice apps don't launch
[04:16] <urlwolf> since all failed, I'll try downloading the deb for v 4
[04:16] <urlwolf> tsimpson: any idea why the other tool (scrivener) lost skinning?
[04:19] <tsimpson> urlwolf: sorry, no. maybe #ubuntu is a better place to ask about that as there's more people knowledgeable in Gnome/GTK there
[04:19] <urlwolf> hmm, my experience there is that questions get drown in noise
[04:19] <urlwolf> but thanks
[04:23] <Obsidian1723> people still use Gnome? I thought that was a dead project?
[04:30] <urlwolf> it's actually very nice
[04:31] <urlwolf> I hated 2, but 3 has blown my mind
[04:31] <urlwolf> moved from kde + awesomewm
[04:34] <urlwolf> solved installing 4.0. thanks all
[04:39] <urlwolf> I quitted kde because of kwin crashes, and lack of tiling
[04:40] <Obsidian1723> I used Gnome 2, but 3 forced workflow changes I didn't want or need, so I migrated to KDE, which is infinately superior to Gnome now.
[04:42] <urlwolf> interesting, we are mirror images :)
[04:44] <Obsidian1723> Not a fan of Metro, Unity or Gnome 3. If KDE didn't exist, I'd just go back to strictly command line like it was when I started computing.\
[04:44] <urlwolf> for me tiling is the killer feature
[04:44] <urlwolf> and shellshape (gnome3) does it better than anything
[04:45] <Obsidian1723> shellshape?
[04:45] <urlwolf> http://gfxmonk.net/shellshape/
[04:47] <Obsidian1723> ah. not a needed feature for me, same with the tiling, but we all have our own workflow.
[05:14] <phunyguy> so I have KDE 4.10 running from the ppa.... and I'm not sure how to configure the background of the "screensaver lock" screen (where you type the password to unlock the session).  It is this horrible blue/purple color......
[05:27] <KJ_agent007> anyone home?
[06:46] <ignerious> how to install more desktop effects
[06:49] <ignerious> how to install more desktop effects???
[06:49] <ignerious> how to install more desktop effects???
[06:50] <ignerious> in kubuntu 12.10
[07:26] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[07:30] <xiaoy> How can i set ark to support unicode? (i'm trying to see some non-english filenames?
[07:40] <phoenix_firebrd> xiaoy: what language?
[07:40] <xiaoy> phoenix_firebrd, chinese :)
[07:41] <phoenix_firebrd> did you try in #ubuntu-cn or ubuntu-tw channels? folks there might know
[07:41] <phoenix_firebrd> xiaoy: ^
[07:42] <xiaoy> phoenix_firebrd, i tried, they told me to switch to gnome XD
[07:42] <phoenix_firebrd> xiaoy: thats expected :)
[07:43] <xiaoy> phoenix_firebrd, when i extract the files the namefiles have no problem, it's when i see them inside ark window that i can't see the names
[07:43] <phoenix_firebrd> xiaoy: i am going to check it, can you wait?
[07:43] <xiaoy> phoenix_firebrd, of course! thank you :D
[07:46] <phoenix_firebrd> xiaoy: i have just check , the file name shows properly here
[07:46] <phoenix_firebrd> xiaoy: what is the kde version ?
[07:47] <phoenix_firebrd> xiaoy: http://imagebin.org/246041
[07:47] <xiaoy> phoenix_firebrd, 4.8.5
[07:48] <xiaoy> phoenix_firebrd, i installed chinese support, but my primary language is not chinese on the system
[07:48] <phoenix_firebrd> xiaoy: can you update to the latest version?
[07:48] <xiaoy> phoenix_firebrd, i'm on kubuntu 12.04, I just upgraded the system, that's all you get :D
[07:49] <phoenix_firebrd> xiaoy: do you prefer 12.04 over 12.10?
[07:49] <phoenix_firebrd> brb
[07:49] <xiaoy> phoenix_firebrd, LTS <--- 5 years of support, upgrades
[07:50] <jackyalcine> I'm going to assume that's something to do with a kio slave
[07:50] <jackyalcine> xiaoy: should check if there's a bug about this.
[07:51] <xiaoy> jackyalcine, thanks
[07:51] <jackyalcine> I'd love to check it out, sounds like a bug I might be able to fix :)
[07:52] <xiaoy> jackyalcine, I would be pleased too, if you can solve it :D
[10:35] <pooridge> channels
[10:35] <pooridge> #channels
[10:35] <OerHeks> !alis
[10:35] <pooridge> open channels
[10:36] <pooridge> alis
[11:52] <scherenhaenden> hi ppl... when i use skype or wine... have not sound in other apps... when i use other apps... i have not sound in wine or in skype
[13:33] <sotiris> hi
[13:49] <kbana> hi
[13:51] <kbana> let's meet on freenode then, this channel is like empty...
[13:51] <kbana> oh this is also freenode? k, then #kde
[13:52] <lordievader> kbana: It's not empty, just many idlers.
[13:52] <kbana_> yes oc
[13:52] <monkeyjuice> still drinking coffee also
[13:53] <kbana_> this is why i said "like empty"
[13:53] <kbana_> yeah, good idea
[13:53] <kbana_> will drink one also now
[14:04] <james147> kbana_: this channel tends to be quite until someone asks a question.
[14:04] <james147> or at least an interesting comment :) - idle talk tends to be done in #kubuntu-offtopic
[14:07] <mr-rich> kbana_: so far, so good ...
[14:10] <kbana_> thx james147
[14:10] <kbana_> mr-rich, what ya mean? kk anyway
 dunno mr-rich, but r u satisfied with ur latest KDE upgrade? Is your system stable?
[14:11] <kbana_> some get a little, some get none...
[14:11] <kbana_> ok, yeah
[14:11] <kbana_> i c
[14:12] <kbana_> good
[14:12] <mr-rich> Ok ... Just applied the latest KDE upgrades to my Kubuntu install (12.04 LTS) ... How do I keep my screen from idle locking with password?
[14:12] <kbana_> yeah, oc i remember
[14:12] <mr-rich> I want to turn it off so my wife can use my computer if necessary ...
[14:12] <kbana_> that's fine
[14:13] <kbana_> hope she like's it too
[14:13] <kbana_> my wife will will also like it, i'm pretty sure
[14:13] <kbana_> *still girlfriend...
[14:14] <mr-rich> kbana_: PUT A RING ON IT! :)
[14:14] <kbana_> yes :)
[14:28] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:31] <InspectorCluseau> mr-rich, see system settings display and monitor
[15:44] <kbana_> hiyas BluesKaj
[15:46] <BluesKaj> hi kbana_
[17:03] <sandhya> Hi, I have wicd on my system. How can I remove it and go back to the KDE default network manager? What is it called?
[17:04] <sandhya> (wicd keeps disconnecting my ethernet connection or perhaps does not automatically reconnect my disconnecting ethernet connection)
[17:08] <Obsidian1723> NetworkManager
[17:09] <Obsidian1723> Have you done a constant ping to your router to see if it is actually disconnecting?
[17:10] <sandhya> Obsidian1723: I have another laptop which is connected fine.
[17:10] <Obsidian1723> I didn'
[17:11] <Obsidian1723> t ask that.
[17:11] <Obsidian1723> Have you done a constant ping to your router to see if it is actually disconnecting?
[17:12] <sandhya> Obsidian1723:  I haven't. But I lose all network connectivity and the device no longer appears on my network.
[17:12] <sandhya> Obsidian1723: Any idea what the package is exactly called?
[17:17] <Obsidian1723> NetworkManager I believe is the actual name.
[17:17] <Obsidian1723> /etc/NetworkManager
[17:17] <Obsidian1723> /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[17:18] <sandhya> Obsidian1723: Thanks
[17:34] <Walzmyn> KDE 4.10 for my user has several graphic glictches. A new user does not have these issues. I've tried renaming (and then restarting) .kde, .config, .local and 5 or 6 others. None of them made my errors go away. What other config files can I aim for?
[17:37] <Peace-> Walzmyn: have you tried to change some settings for destkop effects?
[17:37] <Peace-> Walzmyn: tried to disable blur ?
[17:37] <Walzmyn> Peace-: i've turned them off
[17:38] <Walzmyn> Peace-: what I'm getting is a fugly square line around all my plasmoids and all menus/panels are 100% transparent so you can't read any text on 'em
[17:39] <Peace-> Walzmyn: screenshot ?
[17:39] <Walzmyn> gimme sec
[17:43] <Walzmyn> Peace-: how d'ya get a picture on pastebin?
[17:45] <Peace-> Walzmyn: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=image+upload
[17:47] <bazhang> http://imagebin.org/?page=add   Walzmyn
[17:47] <Walzmyn> Peace-: http://postimage.org/image/a4wmyhe6h/
[17:48] <Peace-> Walzmyn: for me its your plasma theme
[17:49] <Walzmyn> changed themes, did nothing
[17:49] <Walzmyn> Peace-: i copied my .kde over to the new test user and it didn't create the fugly
[17:49] <IdleOne> Peace-: please don't give lmgtfy links, it is considere rude.
[17:50] <Peace-> lol
[17:50] <IdleOne> Not sure what you find funny
[17:50] <Peace-> rude?
[17:50] <Walzmyn> yeah, I was ignoring that, it got me what I wanted
[17:50] <IdleOne> yes, rude. You could have just linked him directly instead of being a jerk and acting like you are so much smarter
[17:51] <Peace-> IdleOne: ok dude next time do that for me
[17:51] <IdleOne> Peace-: The *Ubuntu channels have guidelines you should read
[17:51] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[17:53] <Peace-> sorry man Walzmyn i was considered rude to post you that link
[17:53] <Peace-> so the result it's that i will not help you
[17:53] <Peace-> bb
[17:54] <Walzmyn> I really wasn't offended
[17:55] <IdleOne> Walzmyn: The rule is meant to protect everybody, some people think lmgtfy links are rude, some don't. We prefer they not be used as to avoid any possible offense
[17:56] <Walzmyn> Oh I understand, I shook my head at it, but I got what I wanted and moved along
[17:56] <IdleOne> It really breaks down to the type of atmosphere we want to try and maintain in *buntu channels.
[17:56] <james147> Walzmyn: wonder if it has anything to do with the kde caches since it does not appear to be a config issue: /var/tmp/kdecache-* /tmp/kde-* ~/.cache  then try running kbuildsycoda4
[17:57] <Torch> yes, but if it doesn't go away with a new user, how can it be cache-releated.
[17:57] <Torch> it sure _looks_ like it is, i agree
[17:58] <james147> Torch: but it dosn;t happen with a new user as far as i can tell, even from copying over the cofigs.
[17:58] <Torch> james147: oh, i must have missed that part then. sorry about that ;-)
[17:58] <james147> Torch: <Walzmyn> Peace-: i copied my .kde over to the new test user and it didn't create the fugly
[17:59] <Walzmyn> no, the new user DOES NOT have the problem
[18:00] <Walzmyn> james147: so clean out the cache is your suggestion?
[18:00] <james147> Walzmyn: which suggests it is a cache problem with your current user, espically if coping over the configs to the new user does not recreate the problem
[18:00] <james147> Walzmyn: yes
[18:09] <Walzmyn> no love, still fugly
[18:13] <Torch> Walzmyn: logged out and in again? or at least restarted plasma?
[18:13] <Walzmyn> i competely rebooted, but yeah, I've been doing most of these changes from console then startx to test
[18:16] <james147>  Walzmyn so, its not cache related and its not ~/.kde related.. strange
[18:17] <Walzmyn> james147: well, as far as I can tell
[18:17] <Walzmyn> I'm competely open to me screwing something up though...
[18:19] <james147> Walzmyn: at this point I would be tempted to backup all configs, restore the defaults, then restore your configs until the problem reoccurs... I would start with: `mkdir ~/old-configs && mv ~/.* ~/.old-configs && cp /etc/skel/* ~`  that should reset all of your settings to their defaults, then you can start copying the configs back
[18:20] <james147> Walzmyn: or, better yet, copy the configs to the new user until you find the problem
[18:20] <Walzmyn> james147: i was thinking of jsut making myself a new user and moveing all the stuff I wanna keep over there
[18:21] <Walzmyn> james147: but that's ~200 gigs or single disk transfer :(
[18:21] <james147> then once the new user is configed the way you want it do the above then copy the new users configs back to the old user
[18:21] <Walzmyn> james147: that would be wiser
[18:21] <james147> Walzmyn: not if you move the files, then and sized file should move instantly
[18:21] <Walzmyn> well, my break looks to be over, back to wife and kids. KDE later
[18:21]  * Walzmyn nods
[18:22] <Walzmyn> james147: thanks for all the help
[18:22] <james147> np
[18:56] <Obsidian1723> sandhya: get it figured out?
[19:00] <d-egg> Hi, korganizer does always open with monday focused and not the current day. Anybody else having that?
[19:01] <d-egg> open through korganizer reminder daemon or from the command line
[19:02] <d-egg> just upgraded from lts with backport, now on quantal
[19:03] <d-egg> without backports
[19:06] <d-egg> same problem before and after
[19:07] <Torch> d-egg: seems to work fine here
[19:08] <Torch> d-egg: do you have first day of week set to sunday?
[19:08] <d-egg> Torch: no monday
[19:08] <Torch> d-egg: hmm. same here.
[19:12] <d-egg> If I change that it focuses Sunday.  So it always opens with the first day of the week focused, or the leftmost item.
[19:15] <Torch> d-egg: i'd search bugs.kde.org and submit a ticket if not there alread
[19:15] <Torch> y
[19:19] <phunyguy> hrmmmm... KDE IM always starts in Offline state... how can I make it ALWAYS start "Available"?
[19:20] <phunyguy> especially after a network reconnect....
[19:22] <Tm_T> phunyguy: on contact list window, click wrench -> "Instant Messaging Settings" -> general -> bottom
[19:23] <phunyguy> right, all I see is a checkbox that is checked, half checked, or not at all - but I am unsure what it actually means
[19:24] <Tm_T> phunyguy: good question
[19:26] <Tm_T> phunyguy: I suspect it works something like this, when it's checked, it tries to restore connected state (online, away, busy), half-selected takes offline also into account
[19:26] <phunyguy> let me test
[19:26] <Tm_T> I fully checked it and it connected here (was offline before that)
[19:27] <phunyguy> what about half-checked?
[19:27] <phunyguy> I also worried about it connecting in away state because of auto-away then a reconnect
[19:28] <phunyguy> Pidgen used to do that to me all the time ><
[19:28] <Tm_T> no idea, to be honest
[19:28] <phunyguy> we shall see.  ;)
[19:28] <phunyguy> thanks for the help
[19:28] <Tm_T> with Kopete I could know more
[19:29] <Tm_T> this new stuff is something I haven't learned yet
[19:35] <snele> scherenhaenden: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/how-to-enable-new-kde-410-appmenu-title.html
[19:36] <snele> this was the magic command: sudo apt-get install appmenu-qt :)
[19:42] <madconqueror> Hi there. For some reason, I did a fresh install of Kubuntu 12.10 yesterday night. Using the installation wizard dialogs, I created a different user. When recreating my orignal user I realized, the folders are created with a umask of 022. Why is this not 027?
[19:46] <madconqueror> I mean, I'm fine with umask 022 inside my home folder. but my home folder being 755, no, not really, even on a desktop system. Why is it this way by default?
[19:54] <phunyguy> does anyone know how to change what color flashes in the task manager buttons when there is an urgent hint sent?  (Like an IM window that has a new message)
[19:54] <phunyguy> on my current color scheme it is gray to lighter gray, very hard to see.
[20:00] <phunyguy> d__ed, d___ed, you ok?
[20:00] <phunyguy> ugh...
[20:01] <phunyguy> scrolling my question right out of the window
[20:03] <phunyguy> and Amarok responds VERY slowly.... not sure why.
[20:03] <james147> phunyguy: it might depend on your plasma theme
[20:03] <phunyguy> (while playing)
[20:03] <phunyguy> hmmm, there isn't a way to fine tune it?
[20:04] <james147> I know the aya theme uses your systems color pallet, and you can change only the panels theme
[20:06] <Obsidian1723> sandhya:  get it figured out?
[20:08] <phunyguy> you wuld think it would be a color pallette setting...
[20:11] <james147> phunyguy: the aya theme is the only theme I know of that follows your color pallette settings
[20:11] <phunyguy> james147: can you type my name again? I think I found something....
[20:12] <james147> phunyguy:
[20:12] <phunyguy> hmmm... I found where to make it use a different theme just for that part.  thanks
[20:12] <james147> phunyguy: where?
[20:12] <phunyguy> so I will try the aya theme, and just use that portion of it to test
[20:13] <phunyguy> where you change themes, hit the details tab
[20:13] <phunyguy> Task Items entry
[20:15] <phunyguy> hmm so lets try that ping again, if you dont mind, james147!
[20:15] <phunyguy> so now what color to change....
[20:18] <ovidiu-florin> hello world, I can't conect to my pppoe network from Kubuntu 12.04, I tried creating the DSL connection, and still no success
[20:18] <phunyguy> ovidiu-florin: has this ever worked?
[20:18] <ovidiu-florin> I'm on live cd
[20:18] <ovidiu-florin> no, it hasn't
[20:19] <ovidiu-florin> but I have reports from other people on forums that it should work
[20:19] <ovidiu-florin> phunyguy: ^
[20:19] <phunyguy> I have no idea, I was just gethering info for others
[20:26] <Obsidian1723> ovidiu-florin: Don't you have a router?
[20:27] <ovidiu-florin> no, i don't. not here anyway
[20:27] <mr-rich> InspectorCluseau: been there ... unchecked password ... still asking for a password ...
[20:35] <kbana> Obsidian1723: maybe boot back to windows
[20:35] <kbana> some years ago my wifi stick was'nt compatible, someone hacked it to work but it didn't work for me.
[20:35] <kbana> so maybe just check back later and have real fun :9
[20:35] <kbana> *:)
[20:36] <ovidiu-florin> Am revenit
[20:36] <ovidiu-florin> Sunt mobile iar
[20:36] <ovidiu-florin> Poți repeta te rog sbivol
[20:36] <kbana> sry, i don't speak ur lang
[20:37] <ovidiu-florin> Wrong channel
[20:37] <ovidiu-florin> Sorry
[20:37] <kbana> np
[20:41] <Obsidian1723> kbana: Huh? I don't run Windows at all. Haven't for years. What are you talking about?
[20:44] <away> hi, how do I change the desktop background in 12.10? I can't seem to be able to find the setting anywhere
[20:45] <ovidiu-florin> away right click on the desktop
[20:46] <ovidiu-florin> Desktop settings
[20:46] <away> I don't see any such option ovidiu-florin
[20:46] <away> ah, found it now
[20:47] <away> kubuntu insists on naming it "folder view settings"
[20:47] <ovidiu-florin> If you have folder view set, then yes
[20:48] <away> yeah. I had that. strange that it's nowhere to be found from system settings...
[20:53] <away> while I'm on it: Is it possible to prevent the panel selector from overlapping the panel itself? http://i.imgur.com/M2Ooj6W.png
[20:53] <away> the panel icon thingy overlaps the minutes of the clock
[20:53] <james147> away: that is largly due to the fact that you can have different settings for each virtual desktop, each screen and each activity... that would be a mess in system settings
[20:54] <away> james147, makes sense then
[20:57] <ovidiu-florin> away make the panel longer
[20:58] <away> ovidiu-florin it's already max length it seems
[20:59] <ovidiu-florin> Does it take the full width of your desktop?
[20:59] <away> the strange thing is, it doesn't overlap until you drag it to max width
[20:59] <away> yes
[20:59] <away> but if I make the panel slightly narrower, the overlap isn't there anymore
[20:59] <ovidiu-florin> Then there is something wrong with the widgets
[21:00] <away> :/
[21:01] <ovidiu-florin> Try deleteing the panel and add it again.... I maybe also re log in
[21:28] <ovidiu-florin> about y ppoe connection problem, here's a syslog pastebin, if someone can please help me: http://paste.kde.org/668384/
[21:28] <ovidiu-florin> I'm alsoconected to my phone through wifi thetering
[21:38] <ovidiu-florin> what's the command to restart the network manager?
[21:45] <kbana> sry Obsidian1723, i meant ovidiu-florin oc
[21:46] <ovidiu-florin> kbana: what about me?
[21:47] <almostpluto> Hello
[21:48] <ovidiu-florin> rebooting, bbr
[21:48] <ovidiu-florin> brb
[21:55] <kbana> [20:35:03] <kbana> ovidiu-florin: maybe boot back to windows  :)
[21:55] <kbana> but com,
[21:56] <kbana> *but come back as soon as your problem with the connection is solved...
[22:01] <kbana> [21:55:19] <kbana> [20:35:03] <kbana> ovidiu-florin: maybe boot back to windows  :)
[22:01] <kbana> [21:55:46] <kbana> but com,
[22:01] <kbana> [21:56:11] <kbana> *but come back as soon as your problem with the connection is solved...
[22:48] <leftist> what is the proper way to add to to sources.list?
[22:48] <leftist> it see an option to for software sources but it just refuses to acknowledge the syntax as being correct.
[22:48] <leftist> where is sources.list located?
[23:00] <mandoguit> leftist:    type    locate sources.list       in a terminal
[23:29] <invariant> What is the bug nr of kdm user switching not working?
[23:38] <Marius80> hi
[23:38] <Marius80> could anyone tell me anything about the problem,  that I need to hit enter 3 times to execute a command using krunner?