[00:01] <morgan> ok, it takes some time
[00:03] <morgan> how can I change the global keyboard settings via terminal?
[00:03] <phillw> morgan: sorry for my mis reading of the bug status, i've been following a couple tonight.
[00:07] <phillw> morgan: whilst not exactly what you may want, have a read of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1455877 it details what needs doing in the 'master' file to get the machine to remember settings.
[00:13] <morgan> the lazout everzwhere is wrong, bootscreen terminals in F1,F2... and the whole x session
[00:14] <morgan> setxkbmap is also reset on reboot
[00:15] <phillw> morgan: so, /etc/default/keyboard is reset?
[00:15] <phillw> that really should not happen
[00:16] <morgan> /etc/default/keyboard does not exist
[00:16] <morgan> I thought this file is gone since a few releases_
[00:17] <phillw> morgan: try creating it.
[00:17] <phillw> the 'X' files do not exist by default but need creating, I'm hoping that this is a similar case.
[00:19] <phillw> It would be a lot easier if there someone around who has a dual language keyboard setting so they could tell you what they did. I only use en-gb :(
[00:21] <phillw> wxl: Unit193 do you use dual language on your keyboards?
[00:21] <Unit193> Hah, nope.
[00:22] <wxl> phillw: yeah i use english and haxor
[00:22]  * wxl prepares to be slapped
[00:24] <morgan> ok, I make a reboot
[00:27] <morgan> ok, couldn't login anymore, this is a good sign :)
[00:28] <phillw> morgan: you would be better asking on the mailing list, on there will be people who use dual languages. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
[00:28] <morgan> on x it is changed correctly
[00:29] <morgan> but not on the Fx terminals
[00:31] <phillw> morgan: that will be the defaults for the terminal, which is different to 'X'. have a read of http://askubuntu.com/questions/133318/how-do-i-change-the-language-via-a-terminal which will tell the terminal session the language you want to use.
[00:35] <morgan> $ cat .pam_environment
[00:35] <morgan> LANGUAGE=de_DE:en
[00:35] <morgan> LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
[00:36] <wxl> is that a yay? :)
[00:36] <morgan> "LANGUAGE=de_DE:en" this is wrong?
[00:36] <morgan> LANGUAGE=de_DE:de  ??
[00:41] <phillw> wxl: you are familiar with german?
[00:42] <morgan> I changed .pam_environment and locale but it does not change
[00:42] <morgan> the layout
[00:46] <phillw> morgan: I'm sorry, I really am not used to dual language.
[00:47] <phillw> you should get more people who use dual language stuff on #ubuntu-beginners else please do ask on the lubuntu mailing list.
[00:49] <phillw> morgan: the last work I know of was https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/LanguageSupport
[00:54] <wxl> phillw: ich bin ein auslander
[00:57] <wxl> what's LC_ALL morgan ?
[00:57] <wxl> prolly null i bet
[01:01] <wxl> of course i don't think that's your problem
[01:02] <morgan> yes
[01:03] <wxl> so where are you seeing that it's not working? is it working anywhere?
[01:06] <morgan> it is not working on the F1,F2 terminals, after changing /etc/default/keyboard the layout on x is correct
[01:06] <morgan> LC_ALL is not set
[01:06] <wxl> so regardless of what .pam_environment says, what do your terminals think the value of LANGUAGE and LANG are?
[01:08] <morgan> is I check with locale the lang config is on "de_DE.UTF-8"
[01:09] <morgan> seems to be correct
[01:09] <wxl> so that is in the terminal?
[01:09] <wxl> i.e. with "echo $LANG"
[01:09] <wxl> and what is LANGUAGE set to?
[01:10] <morgan> $ echo $LANGUAGE
[01:10] <morgan> de_DE:de
[01:10] <wxl> and LANG?
[01:10] <morgan> $ echo $LANG
[01:10] <morgan> de_DE.UTF-8
[01:10] <wxl> interesting
[01:10] <wxl> i'd expect that to work
[01:15] <morgan> hm... next try tomorrow  - thanks! :D
[01:15] <wxl> sorry morgan :(
[12:20] <Rarrikins> Is there an easy way to scale the CPU based on its temperature?
[13:11] <_Ethan_> hi, i would like to ask something. Is it supposed that all the things i can do with ubuntu can be done with lubuntu ?
[13:11] <_Ethan_> i mean, is the kernel and all the stuff the same ?
[13:11] <_Ethan_> im asking this because i just want to know if i install gnuradio for example it will work fine
[13:23] <Rarrikins> _Ethan_: You can test by getting a live CD, getting gnuradio, and testing it. That way you don't have to change anything on your system.
[13:33] <_Ethan_> yes
[13:33] <_Ethan_> but in general
[13:33] <_Ethan_> is lubuntu just ubuntu with a lighter graphical interface ?
[13:33] <_Ethan_> or are there some features changed in the kernel for lower computers?
[13:33] <Rarrikins> No, it's the same kernel-wise.
[13:34] <Rarrikins> Uses apt-get as well.
[13:34] <Rarrikins> Same package repositories and everything.
[13:35] <_Ethan_> so, can you tell me the difference ? i mean, i could download ubuntu and then change to lxde
[13:35] <_Ethan_> and i would have "almost" the same ?
[13:35] <_Ethan_> with different programs installed, am i right ?
[13:37] <Rarrikins> I'm not completely sure, but from what I understand, it's just a different selection of packages, so that if you changed the packages on basic Ubuntu and switched your window manager, it would be the same.
[13:38] <_Ethan_> ok
[13:38] <_Ethan_> thanks
[13:38] <Rarrikins> No problem.
[13:38] <_Ethan_> btw im amazingly surprised how it works in my old toshiba satellite A50
[13:40] <Rarrikins> Yeah, it's pretty nice :D I'm using it on an old Vaio, and aside from setting up a temperature throttling script because the fans are dead, it works very nicely.
[13:40] <_Ethan_> :D
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