[00:00] <grufftech> maxb: basic functionality is there, but functions like rotating, resizing, ect are all not included.  which for my software, is a rather big deal.
[00:01] <grufftech> and as much as I could get away with keeping 10.04 LTS for another 2 years on our production platform, I'd rather upgrade and keep current with the rest of ubuntu.
[00:27] <hallyn> Daviey: not sure what you mean - we're not preventing anyone from installing qemu-system-x86 on ppc and vice versa.   I guess we can just install both everywhere if you like.
[00:28] <hallyn> I was just assuming ppl primarily want to run kvm for their native arch
[00:28] <hallyn> I don't have a preference - long as qemu-system-lm32 stays off :)
[00:28] <hallyn> Daviey: thanks!  gnight
[01:43] <dexterboy1106> I am trying to get my ubuntu server running had everything good then I ran into permission problems and I am reinstalling now, what i would like to do is have my owncloud  and my nas in the same dir and be able to move files between the two is that possible
[01:49] <solitude88> Before I make a big mistake Im sure. I need to make a few directories writeable by apache user which is www-data and right now all the files folders are owned by user and usergroup ubuntu. Question is is it ok to change all the ownership of all files and folders to www-data?
[01:50] <solitude88> files from from /var/www are owned by ubuntu
[01:51] <sarnold> solitude88: it would be better if your data isn't owned by your webserver user account -- an exploit for the webserver, or any scripts that may execute as the webserver, would have the ability to overwrite your data files
[01:51] <sarnold> I've seen more than a handful of sites with exploit javascript embedded into their HTML files by hacked servers or scripts.
[01:52] <sarnold> ideally, your webserver has write permission to only its logfiles and whatever database socket it needs to do the job..
[01:52] <solitude88> thanks sarnold. How would you suggest that I do this. Currently I have a plugin that needs read/write access by the same user as the webserver
[01:52] <sarnold> of course, if the whole point is that your webserver lets you manipulate files, then that might be what you have to do. but I'd be skeptical of such tools. :)
[01:53] <solitude88> well this is bad news lol
[01:53] <solitude88> thanks so much sarnold
[01:54] <solitude88> sarnold does it make a difference if all the files are under the public folder?
[01:54] <sarnold> solitude88: not really, that's just a convenient naming convention
[01:55] <solitude88> why would they make a plugin like this if its conviently exploitable
[01:55] <sarnold> because people _like_ doing those sorts of things :)
[01:58] <solitude88> sarnold look at this at the 1 minute mark http://vimeo.com/47685092
[01:59] <dexterboy1106> s am trying to get my ubuntu server running had everything good then I ran into permission problems and I am reinstalling now, what i would like to do is have my owncloud  and my nas in the same dir and be able to move files between the two is that possible
[02:00] <sarnold> solitude88: heh, he mentioned "standard upgrade script". that sounds ideal. :)
[02:01] <solitude88> I guess theres always a give take when dealing with simplicity over security
[02:02] <solitude88> and vice versa
[02:02] <sarnold> solitude88: sometimes. I for one would rather update something via "ssh foo@host" followed by "upgrade_script.sh"   rather than loading a webpage and clicking a bunch of things. but that's just me. :)
[02:03] <solitude88> yeah you're a cli jedi
[02:03] <solitude88> me just a hobbyist
[02:03] <solitude88> :)
[02:04] <sarnold> hehe, I started out as a hobbyist once :) made a right mess of things once in a while too.. hehe.
[02:04] <solitude88> lol
[02:04] <solitude88> been there
[02:04] <solitude88> done that
[02:04] <solitude88> still doing
[02:04] <sarnold> yay :) hehe
[03:45] <dexterboy1106> I am trying to get my ubuntu server running had everything good then I ran into permission problems and I am reinstalling now, what i would like to do is have my owncloud  and my nas in the same dir and be able to move files between the two is that possible
[04:03] <dexterboy1106> if a directory is highlighted green how do I change it back to blue
[04:03] <dexterboy1106> I did it earlier but cant remember
[04:05] <hallyn> uh what?  i guess it depends on your DIRCOLORS.  For me green is an executable file and blue is a directory.  i can't change from oen to the other :)
[04:06] <dexterboy1106> how do i change an executable to a dir
[04:06] <dexterboy1106> i didnt finish reading sorry
[04:07] <dexterboy1106> i did it earlier but cant remeber what site I saw it on
[04:11]  * patdk-lap doesn't know what colors are
[04:11] <patdk-lap> I live in a monocrome world
[04:12] <patdk-lap> 50 shades of grey?
[04:28] <dexterboy1106> now the directory is highlighted green whith blue letters
[04:32] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[04:32] <blackjack> hy i want to cloning 10 pc i use clonezilla how to
[04:32] <blackjack> can help my
[04:32] <blackjack> i use ubuntu server 12.04
[04:35] <dexterboy1106> ok fixed it
[04:35] <dexterboy1106> damn
[04:35] <dexterboy1106> chmod -R 776 *
[04:36] <dexterboy1106> chmod -R 755 *
[04:36] <mattwj2002> fixed what?
[04:36] <dexterboy1106> now the directory is highlighted green whith blue letters
[04:36] <mattwj2002> huh?
[04:36] <dexterboy1106> you weren't in the chat yet
[04:37] <mattwj2002> ok
[04:37] <dexterboy1106> I had a directory that was highlighted green with blue letters I had permissions set for everybody 777
[04:38] <mattwj2002> oh okay
[04:43] <mattwj2002> any idea why an ubuntu server install keeps locking up on grub-install dummy?
[04:49] <mattwj2002> how long does it normally take?
[04:51] <KurtKraut> mattwj2002, are you sure the ISO you are using is okay? Also, is the hard disk okay?
[04:52] <mattwj2002> I have used two different versions of ubuntu cd
[04:52] <mattwj2002> the ubuntu cd
[06:21] <hatake> how to fix this. http://dpaste.com/916486/ help
[06:23] <hatake> how to fix this. http://dpaste.com/916486/ help
[08:21] <hatake> plz fix http://dpaste.com/916535/
[09:02] <dch> I'm moving some scripts from screen to upstart, but have found little reliable information about correct dependencies using upstart.
[09:02] <dch> this works:  start on (static-network-up and filesystem and local-filesystems and net-device-up IFACE!=lo)
[09:02] <dch> this doesn't: start on (static-network-up and filesystem)
[09:04] <dch> Are there any other examples other than the upstart cookbook, or a list of events / dependencies you'd recommend?
[09:36] <dch> [SOLVED] this is what I was looking for -- http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man7/upstart-events.7.html
[10:32] <jpds> dch: Well, you don't want to use net-device-up IFACE!=lo anyway.
[10:33] <dch> jpds: so far I think local-filesystems is redundant, and my current (testing now) is `start on static-network-up and and started filesystem` does that look better?
[10:34] <jpds> dch: Yep.
[10:34] <dch> I'm reading that as "when the static-network-up event is emitted and the filesystem /etc/fstab are all mounted, then start"
[10:34] <dch> I think my mistake was not differentiating between events and states.
[10:35] <jpds> The problem with "IFACE!=lo", is that the device might exist... doesn't mean you have networking...
[10:36] <dch> thanks for the clarification. it seems that a *lot* of people are using it though.
[10:36] <dch> in fact that's been my single biggest frustration with upstart is that the examples on the net are frequently incorrect and simply don't work on a fast system running in parallel.
[10:36] <dch> not a fault with ubuntu per se, mind.
[12:42] <RoyK> iirc someone in here was talking about buggy intel NICs http://blog.krisk.org/2013/02/packets-of-death.html
[14:23] <Plizzo> Hello! I've just performed a clean install of 12.10 on a new SSD in my server, but for some reason it does not find my RAID partition (md0). I have three disks in a RAID5 - /dev/sda, /dev/sdc, /dev/sdd, but there seems to be no raid anymore.
[14:24] <Plizzo> fdisk -l tells me that these drives are Linux raid autodetect, so they should be okay. How would I get mdadm to assemble theese disks into an array again without any data loss?
[14:25] <patdk-lap> tell mdadm to search and find them
[14:25] <Plizzo> I just did sudo mdadm --assemble --scan
[14:26] <Plizzo> And it did actually assemble them again
[14:26] <Plizzo> But I noticed one disk has jumped out, so I'll have to add it again..
[14:35] <Plizzo> Well, I solved it myself, but it will take about 5 hours for the rebuild :P
[15:16] <Flavr> hello
[15:17] <Flavr> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTOKXCEwo_8&feature=player_embedded
[16:15] <Judith> What is adult novelty?
[16:18] <Judith> What is adult novelty?
[18:01] <mbnoimi1> I installed horde from ubuntu repository by apt-get... I'm wondering now what's next? Do I've to configure it or it's has already configured?
[18:05] <blkperl> mbnoimi1: you probably need to configure it
[18:07] <mbnoimi1> blkperl: Is there any manual or documentation for that? I googled a lot about this issue but I got many articles explain how to install from the scratch not from ubuntu repos.
[18:07] <SpamapS> mbnoimi1: it is most likely available at $hostname/horde/
[18:08] <mbnoimi1> SpamapS: I tried http://localhost/horde but I got 404!
[18:09] <mbnoimi1> installation command was "sudo apt-get install turba2 horde3 kronolith2 horde-sam nag2 gollem mnemo2 dimp1 sork-forwards-h3 sork-vacation-h3 imp4 ingo1 ansel1 sork-passwd-h3"
[18:10] <hatake> i need Stage Tarball for ubuntu
[18:12] <blkperl> mbnoimi1: google thinks theres a webmail-install command, did you run it?
[18:14] <blkperl> mbnoimi1: found a guide http://www.swapninfoways.com/?p=168
[18:15] <JanC> most likely there is documentation in /usr/share/doc/<package-name>/
[18:17] <JanC> often in a file named README.Debian or something similar
[18:17] <mbnoimi1> blkperl: thanks I found http://www.dalouche.com/wordpress/2006/01/19/horde3-and-imp4-howto-under-ubuntudebian/ I think it'll helps me out
[18:17] <JanC> (might have a .gz extension if it's large & compressed)
[18:43] <hatake> can help my http://dpaste.com/917498/
[19:15] <verticalvoid> hello all.  i've been working on installing my server (12.04 LTS) and have been trying to set up a mail server properly.  i've pretty much have followed the howto guides (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystemHowto), but am now at an empasse because squirrelmail is not working!
[19:15] <verticalvoid> i already have postfix and postfixadmin (although, not sure if I need that ? ) installed, courier is also what i am using.  it's probably a simple mistake in the MX records, and in the config settings for squirrelmail (i.e. which servername to point to, etc. since i'm trying to use multiple domains).
[19:16] <verticalvoid> but, this is my first attempt at setting up a webserver ... so this mailserver stuff is tricky.  any help greatly appreciated.  back to reading more howto's ... but thought live help might be better.
[19:20] <FaroukBA> hello! well I want to ask about something: every time I update my kernel the processor's ventilator starts turning at max, stays like that about 3 min then returnes to normal. is it normal?
[19:22] <verticalvoid> FaroukBA:  i dunno.  seems like an odd thing to occur.  hence why you're here.
[19:22] <verticalvoid> anyone have any knowledge on setting up mail servers on a home server with multiple domains? (virtual hosts, etc.)
[19:29] <FaroukBA> verticalvoid, because I forgot where's the kernel dev channel :p
[19:29] <verticalvoid> this i do not know ... maybe ubuntu-dev ?
[19:36] <FaroukBA> :) thanks anyway
[19:50] <verticalvoid> anyone know anything about mail servers?
[19:57] <patdk-lap> they help me get more spam
[20:00] <verticalvoid> sure ... just trying to get mine set up on my homeserver.  but thanks for the extraneous info.
[20:02] <patdk-lap> you have a home server that doesn't block port 25? that is strange
[20:02] <patdk-lap> you did ask a very undirected question, and you expected a better answer?
[20:03] <verticalvoid> ok, very true
[20:03] <verticalvoid> let me be a bit more specific
[20:04] <verticalvoid> i just installed squirrel mail (i have postfix all set up ... i hope), and am setting up squirrelmail on multiple domains.  let www.mydomain.com = *, be any of about 12 domains i am hosting.  i want to be able to redirect */squirrelmail to the one directory that squirrelmail is located at on the server.  how is that possible with virtual hosting? seems simple but can't find an answer.
[20:05] <verticalvoid> <--- new at any webserver stuff, always had a 3rd party host, but am moving to the DIY model more and more . . .
[20:08] <patdk-lap> yep, just make a virtual host entry, and assign server aliases
[20:12] <verticalvoid> right ... so, like .. <VirtualHost *>
[20:12] <verticalvoid>   #ServerAlias /squirrelmail /usr/share/squirrelmail
[20:12] <verticalvoid>   DocumentRoot /usr/share/squirrelmail
[20:12] <verticalvoid>   ServerName www.matthewniemerg.com/
[20:12] <verticalvoid> oops, uncomment out #ServerAlias
[20:13] <verticalvoid> probably comment out the servername too ...
[20:48] <Sanariel> hi
[20:57] <verticalvoid> hello
[21:19] <Flavr> Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required '/app/config/boot.php' (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php')
[21:19] <Flavr> any help ?
[22:26] <[HUN]Bitvilag> hi everyone
[22:26] <[HUN]Bitvilag> i really need some help with my situation regarding ubuntu and lvm usage
[22:26] <[HUN]Bitvilag> i have prematurely deleted the partition table of two harddrives that were in an lvm still active on the third harddrive with the system on
[22:26] <[HUN]Bitvilag> what should I do?
[22:27] <jpds> Check the backups.
[22:27] <[HUN]Bitvilag> could you elaborate?
[22:28] <jpds> Check the backups of the data on those drives. :)
[22:28] <[HUN]Bitvilag> lol thanks but...are those backups on the system?
[22:29] <jpds> OK, I was hoping you'd have a backup server just in case serious things like this happened.
[22:29] <[HUN]Bitvilag> ohh
[22:29] <[HUN]Bitvilag> nooo
[22:29] <[HUN]Bitvilag> home server
[22:29] <[HUN]Bitvilag> due to power consumption
[22:29] <[HUN]Bitvilag> i had only one
[22:29] <[HUN]Bitvilag> but ...i am thinking of..
[22:29] <[HUN]Bitvilag> upgrading
[22:30] <[HUN]Bitvilag> but thats does not solve my issue
[22:30] <[HUN]Bitvilag> :S
[22:30] <[HUN]Bitvilag> any other advice?
[22:30] <patdk-lap> why would backups use power?
[22:31] <patdk-lap> you either have to manually recreate your parition table
[22:31] <patdk-lap> or forget about your data
[22:31] <[HUN]Bitvilag> ohhh i thought you meant like a network raid
[22:31] <[HUN]Bitvilag> so server backup
[22:31] <[HUN]Bitvilag> full time
[22:32] <[HUN]Bitvilag> noo u r right i shoudl have done backup
[22:32] <[HUN]Bitvilag> and does manually recreating partition table possibel at al?
[22:32] <[HUN]Bitvilag> is*
[22:32] <[HUN]Bitvilag> all*
[22:32] <[HUN]Bitvilag> possible*
[22:33] <[HUN]Bitvilag> i mean i hardly know any info on the drives
[22:33] <[HUN]Bitvilag> what do i need to know?