| AlanBell | no, they don't get pressed | 00:14 |
|---|---|---|
| AlanBell | just download it and burn it (or put it on USB which is generally better) | 00:15 |
| === emma_ is now known as em | ||
| Azelphur | AlanBell: ZoneMinder is seriously disappointing me :( | 00:26 |
| AlanBell | :( | 00:26 |
| Azelphur | last release august 2011, lacks basic features like...audio | 00:26 |
| AlanBell | yeah, it seems to be stuck on old style cctv with not much support for new toys | 00:27 |
| Azelphur | indeed | 00:27 |
| AlanBell | http://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/304 is more the kind of thing I want it to do | 00:28 |
| Azelphur | I wanted to do this too. | 00:28 |
| AlanBell | spot interesting things, follow them around and make videos with sound of interesting stuff | 00:29 |
| Azelphur | exactly | 00:30 |
| Azelphur | svn has been dead since last July, so yea. | 00:31 |
| AlanBell | also timelapse | 00:31 |
| Azelphur | I have been looking into doing it in python with opencv | 00:31 |
| Azelphur | I reckon opencv would give a significant amount of awesome features. | 00:31 |
| AlanBell | want to do scheduled snapshots in different directions and timelapse them | 00:31 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 00:33 |
| Azelphur | well, I'm having trouble audio grabbing in python atm, hopefully I'll get somewhere. | 00:33 |
| Azelphur | that face tracking example you linked, that's done in OpenCV. | 00:33 |
| Azelphur | so if I could get something similar to ZoneMinder (at least the basics) powered by OpenCV, it'd be a huge step in the right direction | 00:33 |
| AlanBell | yes, I think opencv is the way forward | 00:33 |
| AlanBell | there are different approaches to the area of cameras really | 00:34 |
| AlanBell | some people want a multi-camera serious security setup | 00:34 |
| AlanBell | others want a cool toy that does interesting things and also does security | 00:35 |
| Azelphur | there's no reason both can't be done really | 00:35 |
| AlanBell | I have two of the cameras now, the one at the front door is being useful, the other isn't really, I haven't decided where to mount it | 00:38 |
| Azelphur | I've got one atm :) | 00:38 |
| AlanBell | I might reflash the firmware on that one, I want to try and get a command prompt on it via ssh or telnet | 00:38 |
| AlanBell | I did some stuff with huggin to make panoramas which was interesting | 00:40 |
| AlanBell | and if you take a bunch of pictures and average them you can get rid of a lot of sensor noise | 00:40 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 00:41 |
| AlanBell | I also discovered something interesting about the noise, it appears to be related to a 16x8 pixel grid | 00:41 |
| === Hornet- is now known as Hornet | ||
| AlanBell | http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk/cam/cleansnaplight.png if you zoom in on that you can see a grid pattern | 00:48 |
| AlanBell | http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk/cam/cleansnapdark.png | 00:48 |
| AlanBell | same for that one | 00:48 |
| AlanBell | those images are the result of merging about 500 frames and picking the lightest pixel from all the frames or the darkest pixel from all the frames | 00:49 |
| AlanBell | there is this sensor grid where the most noise happens that gets exposed by this, the most variable pixels form the dark and light grid | 00:49 |
| AlanBell | I expect that kind of thing could be used in video image forensics as it is a bit of a signature of the camera and would probably show up tampering | 00:50 |
| Azelphur | fun | 00:51 |
| ali1234 | fun story | 00:52 |
| ali1234 | once i was messing around on mturk | 00:52 |
| ali1234 | and i found a job asking for pictures "of anything" | 00:52 |
| ali1234 | turns out they wanted jpegs from as many cameras as possible so they could analyse the compression artifacts for forensics | 00:52 |
| ali1234 | they paid me like $5 for taking 3 pictures on each of my many cameras and phones | 00:53 |
| ali1234 | that's the best paying job i ever saw on there by far | 00:53 |
| AlanBell | cool | 00:54 |
| ali1234 | opencv is good but the API is pretty bad | 00:56 |
| ali1234 | it uses many pointers | 00:56 |
| ali1234 | even the python version is just like using C | 00:56 |
| ali1234 | you can do simple motion detect using numpy and scipy which are much nicer to use | 00:56 |
| * AlanBell dislikes pointers | 00:56 | |
| ali1234 | but that's going to be too limited if yu want to do face detect | 00:57 |
| ali1234 | AlanBell: i don't know why you dislike pointers so much | 00:58 |
| ali1234 | you should learn assembler, then you will love pointers | 00:58 |
| redtape-renegade | AlanBell: Oh, I didn't know that they didn't get pressed.. thanx .. A word of Warning.. Never go to the shop after midnight !! https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/Lubuntu%20docs/Kubuntu%20Pens.png | 00:59 |
| AlanBell | pointers let you hurt yourself | 00:59 |
| ali1234 | get an arduino and program it to do "hello world" in assembler | 00:59 |
| AlanBell | that is a lot of pens redtape-renegade | 00:59 |
| redtape-renegade | yep .. how long to canonical usu. take to deliver ? | 01:00 |
| AlanBell | dunno | 01:00 |
| AlanBell | the americans complain about delivery costs and times | 01:00 |
| ali1234 | isle of man is now known as pen island | 01:00 |
| redtape-renegade | but, Do They Deliver ? | 01:00 |
| AlanBell | I have had tshirts from the store fairly quickly | 01:02 |
| AlanBell | night all o/ | 01:02 |
| redtape-renegade | nightology ... | 01:04 |
| p-rad | Recently installed ubuntu 12.04, having some issues with updates and speed. New to linux. Can someone help? | 03:23 |
| redtape-renegade | daftykins, Finally installed X-Chat, ... now we're suckin' diesel !! | 07:59 |
| redtape-renegade | Sorry where R my manners .. Morning All ! | 08:00 |
| kanturk | redtape-renegade, Morning... | 08:33 |
| kanturk | Morning All ! | 08:33 |
| redtape-renegade | I quite Agree . There are definate advantages to saving to a PNG picture rather than a PDF :: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/Lubuntu%20docs/Lubuntu%20desktop%20Feb%2713%20screenshot%20LOGO.png | 09:13 |
| popey | morning all | 09:46 |
| AlanBell | morning | 09:58 |
| Klettbar | morning | 10:08 |
| Klettbar | good? | 10:08 |
| Laney | moo | 10:14 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 10:33 |
| MartijnVdS | \o brobostigon | 11:13 |
| brobostigon | o/ MartijnVdS | 11:14 |
| * MartijnVdS has new walking shoes | 11:20 | |
| brobostigon | :) | 11:24 |
| mungbean | whats the best mp3 tagging software nowadays? | 11:30 |
| mungbean | had some problems with musicbrainz a while back | 11:30 |
| MartijnVdS | mungbean: picard uses musicbrainz, I use it for everything | 11:30 |
| MartijnVdS | if it's not on MB, I add it | 11:31 |
| mungbean | works ok ? | 11:31 |
| MartijnVdS | works great | 11:31 |
| mungbean | i thought something changed/broke | 11:31 |
| MartijnVdS | yeah they changed their API | 11:31 |
| MartijnVdS | but they also release a new version of picard.. so it works again/still | 11:31 |
| mungbean | but works OOTB on 12.04 still? | 11:31 |
| MartijnVdS | 12.04.. that's a good one | 11:31 |
| MartijnVdS | No idea! :) | 11:31 |
| brobostigon | jane silber on bbc click. | 11:45 |
| * penguin42 yawns | 12:23 | |
| popey | mungbean: what release was it that hte installer crapped out for you on, was it 12.04 or 12.10? | 13:13 |
| popey | if I recall it was when you enabled encryption | 13:13 |
| popey | mungbean: did the machine have windows on it too? | 13:33 |
| mungbean | popey: it was a kvm server provided by a hosting provider | 13:45 |
| mungbean | my colleague never got to the bottom of it | 13:45 |
| mungbean | but when he got onto 3.5 kernel it didn't repeat anymore | 13:46 |
| mungbean | seems hard to failt find cos it was a hosting provider's machine | 13:47 |
| penguin42 | popey: http://www.technologyreview.com/view/511121/this-robotic-fur-patch-is-cooler-than-your-cat/ | 13:47 |
| mungbean | correct, it was when luks/encryption done during install time on the cli installer | 13:47 |
| popey | ah, luks | 13:55 |
| popey | this is the home directory one | 13:55 |
| popey | turns out it was the windows migration assistant, disabling that worked around the issue | 13:55 |
| penguin42 | popey: Is it actually an install fest or more generic meeting? | 14:20 |
| redtape-renegade | penguin42: Dunno but As Far As your Link above, the video doesn't play in my chromium ... perhaps we all just realizing it's not Caturday, today ; including my web-browser. :) | 14:23 |
| penguin42 | redtape-renegade: :-( Hmm playing on my ff here | 14:23 |
| penguin42 | redtape-renegade: Hmm playing in chromium 24.0.1312.56 (Ubuntu 13.04) here | 14:24 |
| redtape-renegade | penguin42: mmm, Ok .. 'bit Odd that ! Is today an 'Odd' day ? .. Oh yes, it is ... | 14:26 |
| penguin42 | redtape-renegade: Which days aren't odd? | 14:29 |
| redtape-renegade | penguin42: 2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th .. kinda goes on till 32nd of December, which is my birthday !! | 14:33 |
| penguin42 | I like the 32nd, so relaxing | 14:34 |
| mungbean | have you all watched tpb afk film yet? | 14:38 |
| * penguin42 wonders what Mx is as a prenominal | 14:38 | |
| redtape-renegade | Anyway enough of Aberrant-ness .. it plays in firefox now, so we're all Ok there, thenm :) | 14:40 |
| popey | penguin42: generic lug meeting | 14:40 |
| popey | just gave a talk about popey.com/house | 14:40 |
| redtape-renegade | AGLUG ? popey, is that true ? | 14:40 |
| penguin42 | popey: Nice | 14:40 |
| redtape-renegade | popey, You had a GLUG ? | 14:41 |
| popey | I'm at a LUG meet.. | 14:41 |
| redtape-renegade | AAhh but you said G.L.U.G meeting 6 lines ago .. Does everyone know the difference ? | 14:42 |
| popey | i didnt | 14:52 |
| popey | I said generic because penguin42 asked what type it was, whether it was an install fest or a generic lug meet | 14:53 |
| redtape-renegade | popey: Careful now ! You are close to " Minas Ithil "or the "One that Sees from Afar" stone .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantír .. Not All the G.L.U.G.'s have been found !! G.L.U.G. if you 'didn't' know is a Gnu./Linux User Group .. | 14:54 |
| popey | the LUGs near me are LUGs, not GLUGs | 14:55 |
| popey | someone from the FSF tried to rebrand LUGs to GLUGs and failed | 14:57 |
| penguin42 | popey: Well just have a talk about Android one day and nail it | 14:59 |
| * redtape-renegade thnks popey is on the Nazgûl side as he is against the Gnu .L.U.G. -stones. | 15:00 | |
| popey | I certainly am against rebranding LUGs for the sake for keeping one guy from the FSF happy, yes. | 15:01 |
| popey | google for uk glug - > find a zillion useless results | 15:02 |
| popey | google for uk lug -> find lots of useful results | 15:02 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| penguin42 | nod | 15:06 |
| * redtape-renegade google P.L.U.G. and gets this result by mistake :::: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/ | 15:07 | |
| redtape-renegade | Funny .. the plugincheck-er doesn't always work thou. :::: https://support.cdn.mozilla.net/media/uploads/images/2013-02-06-07-46-02-3afbd9.png | 15:41 |
| === shonk is now known as kiwimind | ||
| redtape-renegade | Crumbs he wasn't lying !! https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/Lubuntu%20docs/RedHat%20Lug%20%5Bpopey%5D.png | 17:01 |
| penguin42 | well he normally doesn't | 17:03 |
| redtape-renegade | judgebot: !popey | 17:07 |
| redtape-renegade | This is ludicrous !! Why wasn't this advertised to me last week ? It' on lt costs £29 to get to the UcK :: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays | 17:12 |
| redtape-renegade | ***it only costs £29 return to get to the UK ... | 17:13 |
| penguin42 | from where? | 17:16 |
| redtape-renegade | I spent more than that on Ubuntu 17 hours ago .. !! http://goo.gl/eECE1 daftykins : They are doing it again . | 17:17 |
| redtape-renegade | penguin42: Thouglas | 17:24 |
| redtape-renegade | AKA Douglas IM14LE | 17:25 |
| penguin42 | oh not that far away | 17:25 |
| penguin42 | redtape-renegade: Where does the £29 get you to? | 17:26 |
| redtape-renegade | Yeah, If you can get past the Thoug's | 17:26 |
| redtape-renegade | Well it's £30 to Sellafield is the old expression .. would you like me to explain ? | 17:27 |
| penguin42 | redtape-renegade: Ah, so yeh, probably cost you more to get from there to London | 17:27 |
| redtape-renegade | penguin42: You use the wrong wiki's .. hang-on | 17:28 |
| redtape-renegade | penguin42: wiki.org/en/M6_(GB) | 17:30 |
| redtape-renegade | oops... | 17:30 |
| redtape-renegade | www.hitchwiki.org/en/M6_(GB) | 17:31 |
| penguin42 | hahah hitchhiking the M6...heck | 17:32 |
| redtape-renegade | there was a TED talk on it .. v. useful | 17:32 |
| * penguin42 generally prefers the Train, but it's a bit pricey | 17:33 | |
| redtape-renegade | trainline ᗕ---- .. do you use it often ?? | 17:34 |
| penguin42 | yeh, but it's no cheaper than anywhere else and it just seems to have the same prebook discounts | 17:34 |
| redtape-renegade | So, tell me penguin42 , If I want to get to Plymouth via Liverpool using Trainline ( the rightway) .. How much would it cost and can you give me a screen-selection-shot (App.shutter) of the result ?? .. So I can plan an excursion this summer ! | 17:37 |
| penguin42 | redtape-renegade: To be honest I'd use transportdirect.info | 17:37 |
| penguin42 | redtape-renegade: And when you say via, is that where your starting from? | 17:38 |
| redtape-renegade | opening ... www.transportdirect.info (Start Liverpool) | 17:38 |
| * redtape-renegade is still annoyed he never was informed about the Ubuntu User days . poobuntu. | 17:40 | |
| redtape-renegade | penguin42: Am I an idiot or does www.transportdirect.info not work for me ? Can you help, as you advocated it , Plz ?? | 17:45 |
| penguin42 | sure | 17:48 |
| penguin42 | redtape-renegade: OK, so it's appeared for me, what problem are you having with it? (I'm using firefox) | 17:49 |
| penguin42 | also seems to work in chrome, so in that case I guess I have to say..... | 17:49 |
| redtape-renegade | Just try and plan a train journey from Liverpool Limestreet to Plymoyuth Main station (both train station !) .. see if you can get anywhere 'cos I still stuck in Bedington ! | 17:50 |
| redtape-renegade | **I'm still stuck.. | 17:50 |
| penguin42 | ok, what date did you tell it? | 17:50 |
| redtape-renegade | 2 months from today. | 17:51 |
| penguin42 | what time? | 17:51 |
| redtape-renegade | (Apr). Tiome .. 08:55 UTC | 17:51 |
| penguin42 | and wth is Bedington.... | 17:51 |
| penguin42 | done it for me | 17:52 |
| redtape-renegade | (I'm in bed atymo. ) :) .. Oh Really !! Prove it to me ... | 17:52 |
| penguin42 | sure just let me imagebin it | 17:53 |
| redtape-renegade | k | 17:53 |
| redtape-renegade | What size screen do you have .. just outta interest ?? | 17:53 |
| penguin42 | http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=11553 | 17:54 |
| penguin42 | redtape-renegade: 1920x1080 | 17:54 |
| redtape-renegade | opening .. I meant in inches .. | 17:54 |
| * penguin42 hates to think why that matters - but 24" | 17:54 | |
| redtape-renegade | np | 17:55 |
| * penguin42 disappears for a bit | 17:57 | |
| redtape-renegade | .. I'm looking at your imgbin .. & I'm thinking .. I already knew that already .. The real question is the cost .. How much is the journey ? Not including roasted nuts .. ! | 17:57 |
| cocoa117 | if i want to know what kind codec of a MP3 file has been using, what tool can be used here? | 18:03 |
| redtape-renegade | penguin42: .. great so it costs numerous MaverickMeerkats , as I understand | 18:03 |
| redtape-renegade | askubuntu. | 18:04 |
| redtape-renegade | £43.50 .. Why did that take 20 minutes ?? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/Lubuntu%20docs/%C2%A343.50%20GBP%20Limestreet%20to%20Plymouth.png | 18:13 |
| DJones | AlanBell: What was the ratemyrack website you were using? (I think it was you anyway) | 18:29 |
| * redtape-renegade gets to go and get the mailbox today .. Bedington be gone ! | 18:37 | |
| redtape-renegade | Great another thrilling installment of Hawker's Bazaar http://goo.gl/py5hd .. Who put me on their damn mailing list ? | 18:41 |
| redtape-renegade | shauno: A friend of yours ?? http://askubuntu.com/users/14325/shauna | 18:43 |
| shauno | redtape-renegade: nothing to do with me :) | 19:02 |
| shauno | they're a whole lot more active than I am :/ | 19:04 |
| redtape-renegade | Any translators out there working on Ubuntu or it's Manuals ?? Someone just tweeted me to ask why there is no American Indian translation of " Ubuntu in Cree " , with this Web-Reference http://apihtawikosisan.com/2013/02/08/idle-no-more-some-ideas-for-cree-language-revitalisation-resource-focus/ | 19:07 |
| * redtape-renegade is not sure how to tweet/respond ?? | 19:08 | |
| shauno | are they volunteering? | 19:13 |
| shauno | the only barrier to any translation is "just" willing & able volunteers with sufficient fluency | 19:13 |
| redtape-renegade | shauno: Where do I send them for example ? lauchpad, Ubuntu wiki, www.getlocalization.com .. Where, where ? | 19:21 |
| shauno | I'd assume https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/StartingTeam since there's not already a Cree team | 19:23 |
| shauno | there's also https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators which would be better placed to answer questions | 19:28 |
| === RaycisCharles is now known as GentileBen | ||
| redtape-renegade | Ok tweeted the 2nd one shauno thanx ... Meanwhile in Cree-Land ... | 19:45 |
| redtape-renegade | http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6a7d7e8541/bane-causes-the-superbowl-blackout?utm_campaign=newsletter20130207&utm_content=fv2&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=fd | 19:45 |
| shauno | "blocked plugin" ;) | 19:46 |
| redtape-renegade | k n.probs .. just doing the emails for 3 days here .. Always get great questions/concerns for Ubuntu .. My first is '3D' as in ... | 19:52 |
| redtape-renegade | http://www.svp.co.uk/product.php?product=KM100 Can this be set up as a £60 webcam ? | 19:52 |
| redtape-renegade | AlanBell: Are you still getting those adverts for loose women .. Here's what's messaging me today ... but can she code ?? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/Attachments%20Email%20Xchat/eharmony%20conclusion%20%3D%20Wish%20I%20was%20in%20New%20York%20for%20St%20Patricks%20day.png | 21:23 |
| AlanBell | mature women is what I get, you might get the loose ones :) | 21:23 |
| redtape-renegade | AlanBell: HaHa ! .. mature women are loose aren't they (?) .. unless they've the craic of a nun ! | 21:25 |
| daftykins | nice family friendly convo 8D | 21:26 |
| popey | ʘ‿ಠ | 21:31 |
| popey | Evening all! | 21:31 |
| redtape-renegade | daftykins: Aloha ! (from the Volcanic Island of Mannin) .. Yes, it was a post from over a week ago .. bit weak of my behalf .. how's the new house going ?? | 21:31 |
| brobostigon | evening popey'ness | 21:31 |
| daftykins | redtape-renegade: not bad ty, bought a few more little odds and ends tonight. may consider moving in a proper come Thursday when my mattress + sofa gets delivered \o/ | 21:32 |
| daftykins | popey: allo o/ | 21:32 |
| redtape-renegade | popey .. how's Ubuntu User Day going ?? | 21:32 |
| popey | no idea | 21:33 |
| redtape-renegade | :( | 21:33 |
| redtape-renegade | thought, that's what all the LUG thing was attached to .. | 21:34 |
| popey | nope | 21:34 |
| redtape-renegade | Ubuntu User Day .. Does it exist ? | 21:34 |
| popey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays yes | 21:35 |
| popey | looks like AlanBell is involved | 21:36 |
| redtape-renegade | AlanBell: apparently your guilty ? | 21:36 |
| * AlanBell is doing a session now | 21:39 | |
| redtape-renegade | 21:00 | 21:39 |
| redtape-renegade | 21:39 | |
| redtape-renegade | Accessibility Applications | 21:39 |
| redtape-renegade | 21:39 | |
| redtape-renegade | AlanBell Agreed .. what #channel ? | 21:39 |
| AlanBell | #ubuntu-classroom | 21:40 |
| redtape-renegade | cool. | 21:40 |
| Azelphur | I just had a reasonably hilarious argument with someone insisting that the fan belt on their computer was broken, and asking me to fix it. | 21:51 |
| Azelphur | they were quite adamant that it was most definitely the fan belt. | 21:51 |
| Azelphur | xD | 21:51 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: OK ok | 21:52 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: So, you asked them if they'd tried cleaning the spark plugs? | 21:53 |
| Azelphur | pretty much, I told her that computers don't have fan belts | 21:53 |
| Azelphur | then I said "It's not a car, it doesn't have a fan belt" | 21:53 |
| Azelphur | xD | 21:53 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: https://plus.google.com/photos/118251468822440261663/albums/5494186793315464977/5494187481146565682 is about as close as I've seen | 21:54 |
| Azelphur | xD | 21:54 |
| Azelphur | that thing looks older than I am | 21:54 |
| penguin42 | how old are you? | 21:55 |
| Azelphur | 22 | 21:55 |
| penguin42 | yep | 21:55 |
| Azelphur | xD | 21:55 |
| daftykins | :O | 21:55 |
| daftykins | you can have a laugh with the belt on optical drives | 21:55 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 21:55 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: built about 80-81 | 21:55 |
| Azelphur | 9-10 years before I was born then ;) | 21:55 |
| daftykins | ehehe | 21:56 |
| daftykins | i'm 28 in a few days :< | 21:56 |
| Azelphur | she tried telling me that if I broke it I'd have to pay for it too, that's when we got to the big ol "NOPE" | 21:56 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: 27MB 14" hard drive on an ICL Perq; 1MB RAM, ran Unix | 21:56 |
| daftykins | how was this humorous acquaintance established then, Azelphur ? | 21:56 |
| Azelphur | :D | 21:57 |
| Azelphur | daftykins: local club I go to xD | 21:57 |
| daftykins | ah | 21:57 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: I was given that machine when I was at Uni, it didn't boot when we got it home (and two of us lifted it up the stairs) the belt was off (and the lock screw was in) | 21:58 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 21:58 |
| daftykins | XD | 21:58 |
| daftykins | i was quite interested at a practical example of HDD data recovery recently | 21:59 |
| penguin42 | ? | 21:59 |
| daftykins | a friend brought me an old laptop HDD of his, new enough to be SATA mind you | 21:59 |
| Azelphur | penguin42: what is that belt even for? a hard drive platter or possibly a tape? | 21:59 |
| daftykins | it streamed errors and wouldn't let a liveUSB boot, Windows equally bricked it trying to talk to it | 21:59 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: To spin the platters | 21:59 |
| Azelphur | ah for the hard drive, yea | 21:59 |
| daftykins | he sent it off and a co. replaced a head on the drive, managing to pull the data off after :O | 22:00 |
| daftykins | he got charged around £350 to get the data, but it was important travel photos so he wanted them | 22:00 |
| Azelphur | daftykins: I have a USB hub that makes the PC turn off when I plug it in | 22:00 |
| Azelphur | it's like the death hub of doom. | 22:00 |
| daftykins | :D | 22:00 |
| daftykins | we all know about you and USB gear ;) | 22:00 |
| daftykins | hehe i jest | 22:00 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: ^ speaking of that, that was my main USB hub I've been using for the past few years, I pulled it out and plugged it into my HTPC and it does that | 22:01 |
| Azelphur | so yea, maybe it was dodgy xD | 22:01 |
| Azelphur | I got a nice USB 3 hub now though | 22:01 |
| daftykins | ooh fancy | 22:01 |
| daftykins | ok i've decided that tonight is my last night of leaving my IRC client running, ahead of my house move | 22:02 |
| daftykins | i've no idea how long it's going to be between now and having a net conn up and running in my new place, a few stages of confusion to go through between now and then | 22:02 |
| popey | where you moving to? | 22:03 |
| daftykins | still Guernsey, but i've just bought a place on the capital | 22:03 |
| daftykins | *in | 22:03 |
| daftykins | so i won't even have to ride home post-pub any longer ^_^ | 22:03 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: The drive was apparently a Shugart SA4000, 24MB, 87ms average access time, 7Mbit/s | 22:04 |
| Azelphur | penguin42: haha ouch | 22:04 |
| daftykins | though i may have to fight off anyone who equally cba to go home :> | 22:04 |
| daftykins | who try and scrounge a bed for the night :) | 22:04 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: If it makes you feel any better some of the guys I work with at the moment have been working with computers since I was born | 22:05 |
| daftykins | my ol' College still has one of the old 5MB IBM beasts that's the size of two electric sewing machines side by side :O big clear plastic cover to it | 22:05 |
| daftykins | penguin42: do you ever have to drag them kicking and screaming into even the 20th century? ;) | 22:08 |
| * penguin42 reads the manual for the hard drive 'After application of DC power, a 1.25 minute internally generated delay to ready is introduced' | 22:08 | |
| daftykins | XD | 22:09 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: Haha sometimes, it's a bit hard | 22:09 |
| daftykins | what's even the interface on that thing? | 22:09 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: I suspect the interface is what became ST506 for MFM/RLL drives | 22:10 |
| ali1234 | hooray for fence post errors | 22:10 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: It's very simple; it's not that far off a floppy interface | 22:10 |
| daftykins | :D | 22:10 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: with a 'step' input to cause the drive head to step | 22:10 |
| ali1234 | disk read tool has options "start cylinder" and "end cylinder" and if you set then equal it does nothing, but if end is start +1 it reads two cylinders | 22:11 |
| daftykins | wowzer, to think the amount of stuff that has already become defunct in my time | 22:11 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: Oh yeh it's pretty scary | 22:12 |
| daftykins | like when i was teaching i already felt that the kids were missing out from the lack of device mode setting for channel sharing of devices with PATA :) | 22:13 |
| penguin42 | stuff evolves, can be difficult to keep up with | 22:13 |
| daftykins | they have it too easy with SATA :D | 22:13 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: I guess I got my 1st hard drive in I guess late 80's and that was still MFM format, so you still had to format the drive, but it was at least a sane 3.5" | 22:14 |
| daftykins | penguin42: back then, did it keep a table in its' own firmware of bad sectors it found there and then? | 22:17 |
| penguin42 | no | 22:17 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: They were dumb drives, no firmware | 22:17 |
| ali1234 | lol firmware | 22:18 |
| penguin42 | <disappears for about 90mins> | 22:18 |
| daftykins | ah ok :> | 22:18 |
| daftykins | i did nearly start with that as a question after i typed that one | 22:18 |
| ali1234 | bad blocks were stored at filesystem level for amigados | 22:18 |
| ali1234 | i'm guessing really early stuff didn't handle them at all | 22:19 |
| daftykins | heh | 22:21 |
| daftykins | ouch | 22:21 |
| daftykins | ok i'm about to call it an early night | 22:21 |
| daftykins | and with that i'm going to disappear, so i'm sure i'll return before a month is out | 22:22 |
| redtape-renegade | AlanBell: Good talk you gave on #ubuntu-classroom .. V. helpful t my American friend Jonathan Nadeau .. but I join half way through .. Where are the logs again Plz. ?? | 22:22 |
| daftykins | take care all \o | 22:22 |
| redtape-renegade | night o/ | 22:22 |
| Azelphur | penguin42: hehe, I don't mind being young xD | 22:25 |
| brobostigon | traceroute 216.81.59.173 , results in some interesting results. :) | 22:25 |
| AlanBell | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/09/%23ubuntu-classroom.html redtape-renegade | 22:27 |
| redtape-renegade | thanx. | 22:27 |
| jennie | please tell me other browsers than firefox in ubuntu | 22:47 |
| brobostigon | chromium, | 22:47 |
| === GentileBen is now known as RaycisCharles | ||
| jennie | and one more please | 22:48 |
| brobostigon | konquerer | 22:49 |
| jennie | thanks | 22:49 |
| brobostigon | jennie: epiphany also. | 22:50 |
| directhex | dillo! | 22:54 |
| brobostigon | lynx | 22:54 |
| brobostigon | elinks | 22:54 |
| directhex | w3m | 22:55 |
| Laney | telnet | 23:02 |
| popey | emacs | 23:07 |
| popey | (i assume) | 23:07 |
| directhex | CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCHJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ!NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGG | 23:19 |
| bigcalm | Cat? | 23:20 |
| bigcalm | Baby? | 23:20 |
| directhex | cat | 23:27 |
| ali1234 | i thought it was a violent allergic reaction to emacs | 23:32 |
| penguin42 | you can normally tell cats by the distance between the characters | 23:35 |
| penguin42 | although it's got to be said the ! is impressive, I guess that's one paw on shift | 23:35 |
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