[00:01] <penguin42> it tends to be rather quiet at the weekend, especially late in European times
[00:02] <cjwelborn> ah, i see. okay then, see you later.
[13:05] <philwyett> Hi, Are there any notes on upgrading to the LTS quantal stack being made available when 12.04.2 is released?
[13:09] <ogra_> philwyett, just make sure to have all updates installed, you will be automatically on 12.04.2
[13:09] <ogra_> (check with lsb_release -a)
[13:11] <philwyett> ogra_: That is not the case is it. On an already installed system, the move to the new stack is optional?
[13:12] <ogra_> the move to a different kernel and xserver is ... but you are automatically getting to 12.04.2
[13:12] <ogra_> (these are unrelated things)
[13:13] <philwyett> ogra_: Normal updates are fine. It is the move to the complete new stack I am wanting to know if an guidance docs will be provided.
[13:13] <philwyett> s/an/any
[13:13] <ogra_> ah, k, that i dont know
[13:14] <ogra_> but i'd guess so ;)
[13:14] <philwyett> I'd hope so. ;-)
[13:16] <philwyett> I have just installed the feb 10 alternate image in a VM. While it is installing the LTS quantal 3.5. kernel. It is still installing mesa 8.0.4.
[19:02] <melodie> hello
[19:02] <melodie> I would like some help on a little thing
[19:04] <melodie> trying to make a custom versions, I would like in a Openbox one and in Lubuntu to have icons on the desktop (two icons). I have got them with a script in the casper directories, : it works in the live, but does not follow after install once the name "Desktop" is changed to the one used in the language. any thoughts on that ?
[23:00] <Bluefoxicy> okay why the heck am I getting corruption.
[23:11] <penguin42> what type of corruption, where?
[23:12] <infinity> penguin42: He's being led down the path of temptation and sin toward a decadent life filled with glazed donuts and Brazilian barbecues.  Obviously.
[23:12] <infinity> Great, I just made myself hungry.
[23:12] <penguin42> hmm donuts
[23:25] <Bluefoxicy> Are there docs on how Debian and Ubuntu infrastructure work?
[23:25] <Bluefoxicy> I have no clue where to start building a build server, and google is unhelpful.  All I know is folks submit debs and they wind up in the repositories, and there's some automated magic between and somebody manually accepts the deb.
[23:32] <penguin42> Bluefoxicy: On the ubuntu side isn't most of it driven via lp or something connected to it - i.e. can you follow the source?
[23:39] <Bluefoxicy> penguin42:  nod.  On Debian it seems to be buildd and such--which I had quite a bit of trouble discovering via google but :|
[23:46] <penguin42> Bluefoxicy: To ask a silly question; but wth are you setting up a buildd?
[23:48] <infinity> Bluefoxicy: Debian is dak/wanna-build/buildd/sbuild, Ubuntu is launchpad/launchpad-buildd.  You probably don't want to use either for a small local archive.
[23:53] <Bluefoxicy> Eh.  I don't understand how either works.  It gives me the willies.
[23:53] <Bluefoxicy> I hate relying on magic blue smoke
[23:53] <penguin42> Bluefoxicy: Well it's fine if you don't let it out
[23:54] <cjwatson> sbuild itself is all packaged and such and pretty easy to get to work for single source packages, at least
[23:56] <Bluefoxicy> nod.