[00:03] <cjwelborn> i'm not a big IRC user, how can I filter out all these system msgs like "blah joined", "blah left", etc. ?
[00:03] <cjwelborn> doh, wrong channel, sorry.
[18:33] <Catbuntu> Hi
[18:54] <sandyd> o/ coffeecat
[18:54] <sandyd> and elfy
[19:02] <Iowan> meeting time...
[19:02] <elfy> we'll have a little wait and see if s.fox turns up
[19:02] <elfy> beat me to the post there Iowan
[19:08] <Catbuntu> What's the meeting about?
[19:08] <Iowan> Forum Council monthly meeting
[19:09]  * jacob dances
[19:09] <jacob> (as is customary while waiting for meetings in #ubuntu-meeting)
[19:09] <elfy> lol
[19:12] <elfy> #startmeeting Forum Council monthly meeting
[19:12] <meetingology> Meeting started Sun Feb 10 19:12:12 2013 UTC.  The chair is elfy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[19:12] <elfy> agenda at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda
[19:12] <elfy> #voters Iowan cariboo907 coffeecat elfy
[19:12] <meetingology> Current voters: Iowan cariboo907 coffeecat elfy
[19:13] <elfy> #topic minimal staff requirements
[19:13] <elfy> ok - think that's that done - so minimal staff requirements as per the discussion we've already had
[19:14] <elfy> oh hang on :)
[19:14] <elfy> #topic FC meeting
[19:14] <elfy> #subtopic minimal staff requirements
[19:15] <elfy> as far as I'm aware that's been discussed by staff - anyone want to add anything
[19:15] <coffeecat> not really.
[19:16] <cariboo907> I thinks it's been discussed enough
[19:16] <Iowan> I just ran through a quick review
[19:16] <coffeecat> I think we just need to vote it to make it "official"
[19:17]  * elfy too
[19:17] <elfy> Iowan: you ok with that?
[19:17] <Iowan> ++++
[19:18] <Iowan> Just waiting for ely to find the "vote" button.
[19:18] <Iowan> *Elfy
[19:18] <elfy> #vote Accept the minimal staff requirements as discussed in forum
[19:18] <meetingology> Please vote on: Accept the minimal staff requirements as discussed in forum
[19:18] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[19:18] <elfy> +1
[19:18] <meetingology> +1 received from elfy
[19:18] <Iowan> +1
[19:18] <meetingology> +1 received from Iowan
[19:18] <coffeecat> +1
[19:18] <meetingology> +1 received from coffeecat
[19:18] <cariboo907> +1
[19:18] <meetingology> +1 received from cariboo907
[19:18] <elfy> #endvote
[19:18] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Accept the minimal staff requirements as discussed in forum
[19:18] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[19:18] <meetingology> Motion carried
[19:19] <elfy> #subtopic Place for users to discuss Agenda Items
[19:19] <Iowan> ... gotta go look...
[19:19] <elfy> OK - so I'm off the opinion that we should provide a place on forum so users can have somewhere to discuss agenda items
[19:20] <coffeecat> Perhaps a single sticky thread for each agenda item in FF&H, but it'll make the sticky area cluttered.
[19:20] <cariboo907> +1, as usually all the links are to discussions in SCC
[19:20] <elfy> Not sure of the detail - perhaps a stuck thread we can use to index threads in FFH then seperate threads
[19:20] <elfy> how about that ^^ coffeecat ?
[19:20] <coffeecat> elfy - that's better - 1 sticky linked to discussions threads.
[19:21] <elfy> we can then link staff threads and user threads in agenda as well
[19:21] <coffeecat> yes - that works for me
[19:21] <cariboo907> That's what I 'd like to see
[19:21] <elfy> seems logical
[19:22] <Iowan> I'm unsure of details- hafta see it, I guess.
[19:22] <Iowan> There is link to agenda - should dthat expand?
[19:23] <elfy> not sure what you mean Iowan
[19:23] <Iowan> Me either... I just noticed link in Ubuntu Community Discussions
[19:23] <Iowan> That links to aenda wiki page
[19:24] <Iowan> ... but you're talking FF&H link/sticky
[19:24] <elfy> oic - no - we'd have a index stuck in FFH - then we can just use normal threads for users to actually discuss agenda items
[19:24] <cariboo907> all the links in the agenda lead to SCC, we'd like the forum membership to be able to discuss agenda items
[19:24] <elfy> as it is most of the links in agenda are only any good for staff
[19:25] <elfy> cariboo907: thanks +1
[19:25] <Iowan> FTR, an agenda  discussion area is a good idea
[19:25] <elfy> ok
[19:25] <elfy> vote then?
[19:25] <coffeecat> yes
[19:25] <cariboo907> yes
[19:26] <Iowan> Yep - details tbd
[19:26] <coffeecat> no - we have some details I think ^^^
[19:26] <elfy> #vote Create stuck index in FFH then create threads as required for forum users to discuss items
[19:26] <meetingology> Please vote on: Create stuck index in FFH then create threads as required for forum users to discuss items
[19:26] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[19:26] <Iowan> +1
[19:26] <meetingology> +1 received from Iowan
[19:26] <cariboo907> +1
[19:26] <meetingology> +1 received from cariboo907
[19:26] <elfy> +1
[19:26] <meetingology> +1 received from elfy
[19:26] <coffeecat> +1
[19:26] <meetingology> +1 received from coffeecat
[19:26] <elfy> #endvote
[19:26] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Create stuck index in FFH then create threads as required for forum users to discuss items
[19:26] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[19:26] <meetingology> Motion carried
[19:27] <elfy> #subtopic Username Changes
[19:27] <elfy> ok - I propose we formally stop the embargo on username changes
[19:27] <elfy> allow one change of they want it
[19:28] <elfy> see how it goes - if it's too much - then go back to not doing it
[19:28] <Iowan> * with reason
[19:28] <elfy> I'd not want to see us changing people more than once - enough reason for me :)
[19:28] <coffeecat> Interesting request in RC which Iowan fielded. I agree with what Iowan said. We need to say to these people if we change your username to your real name, you are stuck with it.
[19:28] <cariboo907> I don't have a problem with that, just so we don't have some members changing their user name, as often as they change their socks
[19:29] <Iowan> (maybe more)
[19:29] <elfy> cariboo907: we say at outset we'll not do it
[19:29] <cariboo907> I know, this was just FTR :)
[19:29] <coffeecat> we could rewrite the sticky.
[19:29] <elfy> maybe change CoC
[19:30] <elfy> coffeecat: at least that
[19:30] <Iowan> I don't necessarily wanna forbid >1 change, but don't wanna advertise it.
[19:30] <elfy> I'd rather say 1 now - rather than the piecemeal thing we have at present
[19:31] <coffeecat> I agree - 1 change - that's it otherwise some would abuse it.
[19:31] <coffeecat> So we could spell out - if you want a trivial change, that's it.
[19:32] <elfy> I can agree to that
[19:32] <Iowan> As currently, I'd opt for "special cases", but officially ...
[19:32] <elfy> this is the problem
[19:32] <Iowan> Even first change is subject to a "vanity clause"
[19:33] <elfy> as it stands we've got threads where one says yes then 2 days later someone else says no
[19:33] <cariboo907> Isn't that what most name changes are  for, vanity?
[19:33] <elfy> one change should be enough imo
[19:33] <elfy> cariboo907: +1
[19:34] <elfy> I can't see any reason for more than one
[19:34] <elfy> that's enough to warrant expecting someone else to take time out of their day to do it
[19:36] <Iowan> I'm +1 on softening restriction - it's the degree that is in question
[19:37] <Iowan> I don't necessarily wanna post a "First namechange free!" announcement, either
[19:37] <elfy> well no - neither would I
[19:37] <coffeecat> I don't think we have to - simply revamp the sticky
[19:37] <Iowan> That part sounds good
[19:38] <Iowan> (sneak up on it)
[19:38] <coffeecat> And if people ask for trivial change or change to real name, ask: are you absolutely sure? Because when it's done, it's done.
[19:38] <elfy> if it becomes too much of a problem - we just go back anyway, I don't think the sticky was the result of anything but a discussion elsewhere
[19:38] <cariboo907> especially seeing as most members ignore the stickies :)
[19:38] <elfy> lol
[19:38] <coffeecat> lol
[19:38] <Iowan> stickies? We have stickies?
[19:38]  * coffeecat votes for post-dated stickies!
[19:38] <elfy> :)
[19:40] <elfy> so - do we have enough to work with, relax current state of name changes - ensure user knows they've got one bite, change back if it becomes necessary?
[19:40] <coffeecat> I think we have enough - draft a sticky and agree text in ml perhaps.
[19:40] <Iowan> +1 let's get rules softened - ali'l
[19:40] <cariboo907> I'd say yes to that
[19:40] <elfy> k
[19:41]  * Iowan awaits vote
[19:41] <elfy> #vote Relax username change rule, follow up in the future if necessary
[19:41] <meetingology> Please vote on: Relax username change rule, follow up in the future if necessary
[19:41] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[19:41] <elfy> +1
[19:41] <meetingology> +1 received from elfy
[19:41] <Iowan> +1
[19:41] <meetingology> +1 received from Iowan
[19:41] <cariboo907> +1
[19:41] <meetingology> +1 received from cariboo907
[19:41] <coffeecat> +1
[19:41] <meetingology> +1 received from coffeecat
[19:41] <elfy> #endvote
[19:41] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Relax username change rule, follow up in the future if necessary
[19:41] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[19:41] <meetingology> Motion carried
[19:42] <elfy> #subtopic Discussion on #ubuntuforums IRC channel moderation
[19:42] <elfy> not sure Lord of Time is here to discuss this
[19:42] <cariboo907> I have no opinion on this, as I don't spend enough time on IRC
[19:43] <elfy> my opinion is there's not really any need to do anything - the few times it's a problem doesn't warrant any official response in my opinion
[19:43] <coffeecat> I get the feeling that there is not much appetite for this beyond encouraging mods to hang out in #ubuntuforums and help if necessary
[19:43] <coffeecat> It shouldn't be part of the "official" task
[19:43] <coffeecat> imo
[19:44] <elfy> agreed
[19:44] <Iowan> If necessary, someone (CC?) may need to "hire" IRC moderators - as it isn't REALLY the forum
[19:44] <elfy> I'm happy enough to shelve this - if lot want's to follow up he can
[19:45] <Iowan> +1
[19:45] <coffeecat> +1
[19:45] <cariboo907> +1
[19:45] <elfy> Iowan: up to a point I agree, the only real issue is we allow a certain amount of 'freeplay' there
[19:45] <Iowan> table it!
[19:45] <elfy> vote on doing nothing for the time being then :)
[19:45] <coffeecat> lol
[19:46] <jacob> fwiw, anyone with the ubuntu/member/* mask can op in #ubuntuforums
[19:46] <elfy> jacob: thanks
[19:46] <elfy> I think lol
[19:46]  * elfy foresees madness 
[19:47] <elfy> #vote Leave #ubuntuforums channel moderation for LoT to revisit if needed
[19:47] <meetingology> Please vote on: Leave #ubuntuforums channel moderation for LoT to revisit if needed
[19:47] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[19:47] <elfy> +1
[19:47] <meetingology> +1 received from elfy
[19:47] <cariboo907> +1
[19:47] <meetingology> +1 received from cariboo907
[19:47] <coffeecat> +1
[19:47] <meetingology> +1 received from coffeecat
[19:47] <Iowan> +1
[19:47] <meetingology> +1 received from Iowan
[19:47] <elfy> #endvote
[19:47] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Leave #ubuntuforums channel moderation for LoT to revisit if needed
[19:47] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[19:47] <meetingology> Motion carried
[19:48] <jacob> (actually, i might be wrong about the ubuntu/member thing, that used to be there, but isn't now)
[19:48] <elfy> #subtopic Referral links on ubuntuforums
[19:48] <Iowan> sure, NOW you mention it :)
[19:48] <elfy> jacob: ok
[19:48] <jacob> :D :D :D
[19:49] <elfy> coffeecat can lead on this one :)
[19:49] <coffeecat> OK - just getting my head round it.
[19:50] <coffeecat> three bits: referral links in sigs, referral links from new members who have signed up to spam forum with link, and post links form extablished members. Is this a good way of dividing up the subject?
[19:50] <coffeecat> #2 seems obvious.
[19:51] <elfy> yea - logical to me
[19:51] <elfy> and #2 is obvious
[19:51] <cariboo907> works for me
[19:51] <coffeecat> I'll say straight up I'm not comfortable with referral links in sigs even with estabished members.
[19:52] <Iowan> sig links at least require 25 previous posts...
[19:52] <Iowan> although that's more of a permanent as
[19:52] <coffeecat> trouble with sig links is that they appear in every post - obvious I know - but it's spammy, imo
[19:52] <Iowan> *ad
[19:52] <cariboo907> we've had them as long as I've been a member of the forum
[19:53] <Iowan> (We've had spammers, too ;)
[19:53] <cariboo907> Ubuntu One now has referrals too
[19:54] <Iowan> That's unfortunate, as it's officially sanctioned.
[19:54] <Iowan> Kinda sets a precedent
[19:55] <cariboo907> that's why I feel we should allow referral links in sigs, but ban someone that only joins to provide a link
[19:55] <elfy> perhaps make it a perk if you've got as far as being registered users plus ...
[19:55] <coffeecat> possibly not a precedent - Ubuntu1 on referrals says family and friends. I'll see if I can find link.
[19:55] <cariboo907> that would work for me
[19:55] <elfy> however
[19:55] <elfy> I would not want to have hundreds of reports just to deal with sig links
[19:56] <cariboo907> coffeecat, https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/referral-program-terms/
[19:56] <coffeecat> https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/referral-program-terms/ - quite clearly family and friends so I don't think a precedent for forum.
[19:57] <elfy> especially given "must not send any referral request in violation of applicable law (e.g. spam)"
[19:57] <coffeecat> ok - it goes onto say publicly
[19:57] <Iowan> CoC comes to mind...
[19:59] <cariboo907> with the stipulation that you must disclose that you are getting extra storage, that may take more than 3 lines in a sig :)
[20:00] <Iowan> Home pages can also be problems... but they, too, have been around longer than I have. (back on topic)
[20:00] <elfy> horny subject this is turning into
[20:01] <cariboo907> we may need to discuss this more, before voting on it
[20:01] <elfy> yea
[20:01] <cariboo907> I'd suggest we table it until our next meeting
[20:01] <elfy> at least we can discuss parts further perhaps
[20:01] <Iowan> +1 We'r into overtime
[20:01] <coffeecat> +1 for more debate in SCC.
[20:02] <elfy> ok
[20:02] <elfy> #vote Referral links - table for further discussion
[20:02] <meetingology> Please vote on: Referral links - table for further discussion
[20:02] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:02] <cariboo907> =1
[20:02] <Iowan> +1
[20:02] <meetingology> +1 received from Iowan
[20:02] <cariboo907> +1
[20:02] <meetingology> +1 received from cariboo907
[20:02] <elfy> +1
[20:02] <meetingology> +1 received from elfy
[20:02] <coffeecat> +1
[20:02] <meetingology> +1 received from coffeecat
[20:02] <elfy> #endvote
[20:02] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Referral links - table for further discussion
[20:02] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:02] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:02] <elfy> #subtopic  Forum Upgrade
[20:03] <elfy> this subject could take as long as the other 4 or 5 ...
[20:03] <coffeecat> perhaps not...
[20:03] <elfy> :)_
[20:03] <elfy> first up is the proposed date
[20:04] <elfy> at present we are hoping to do this at the end of February
[20:05] <elfy> coffeecat: can you do the points - I've forgotten where we were with trying to drive the bot :|
[20:05] <cariboo907> Is there anything that will stop this from happening?
[20:05] <elfy> cariboo907: nothing major
[20:05] <coffeecat> deej - one of the sysadmins - is seeing if IS can do 28th Feb (Thurs).
[20:05] <cariboo907> aside from the user name location?
[20:05] <coffeecat> 08:00 UTC start. Needs up to 8 hours....
[20:06] <coffeecat> So hopefully done by 16:00 UTC on the Thurs.
[20:06] <coffeecat> THen we start picking up the pieces. :/
[20:07] <coffeecat> cariboo907, there are some usability issues still outstanding on staging, but no real show-stoppers...
[20:07] <elfy> cariboo907 Iowan - the thinking being that if we try and do it UK time we havew 3/5ths of us about while it's going on
[20:07] <coffeecat> If we wait till we've fixed them all, it'll be the turn of the next millenium...
[20:07] <cariboo907> that worksd for me, as I'm at work during those hours, and off Friday, Saturday and most of Sunday
[20:07] <coffeecat> cariboo907, that's great..
[20:07] <elfy> excellent - so we'd have 4/5ths kind of about for the few days following
[20:08] <coffeecat> apart from fidlling in admincp, we'll need people with experience of staging to help users in FF&H...
[20:08] <Iowan> UK time makes sense
[20:08] <elfy> coffeecat: +1
[20:09] <Iowan> I'm gonna be climbing another learning curve, too.
[20:09] <elfy> I would say that the most important decision we need to make is
[20:09] <coffeecat> elfy - suggest we make another pleas to any modertaors here atm to get into staging and find their way around.
[20:10] <elfy> do we hold back on the upgrade for 'little' issues - or deal with those after upgrade
[20:10] <cariboo907> if they are 'little issues' I say lets do it
[20:10] <Iowan> We've been waiting for these upgrades since...???
[20:10] <elfy> cariboo907 Iowan - we have things like tags not showing in forum view without mouseover
[20:10] <coffeecat> mark thread as solved not working....
[20:10] <elfy> I say - go forward - deal with those things afterwards
[20:10] <elfy> coffeecat: +1
[20:10] <coffeecat> user profile in wrong place in posts....
[20:11] <coffeecat> But none of these are showstoppers imo
[20:11] <elfy> that seems to be the thing we are dealing with - are things mods to templates or addons
[20:11] <jacob> does the main page still default to the activity view? (instead of the forum list)
[20:11] <elfy> jacob: no
[20:11] <jacob> elfy: good good, that was my only gripe :)
[20:12] <elfy> jacob: if the last time you looked then it will look much different now :)
[20:12] <jacob> editing my hosts file as we speak
[20:12] <coffeecat> jacob - it looks like a usable forum now! ;-)
[20:12] <jacob> or type
[20:13] <Iowan> I presume these little issues will still be attacked - even if date is set...
[20:13] <elfy> Iowan: yea - priorities
[20:13] <coffeecat> Iowan - the way I see it is the little outstanding issues a re little different in kind from the sort of things we need to attend to week by week. The forum is always in flux.
[20:14] <elfy> as and aside any ubuntu member who gained membership by way of forum activity is welcome to check out the staging forum - send a PM via forum to one of the admins
[20:14] <jacob> ooh, that looks nice. some bits and bobs weird with the theme, but it's looking great otherwise
[20:14] <cariboo907> I've had a couple of pm's from ubuntu members
[20:14] <Iowan> coffeecat:  My point, exactly.
[20:15] <elfy> jacob: the dots will change - hiccup I think :)
[20:15] <elfy> cariboo907: yea - think I got about 6
[20:15]  * coffeecat admits mea culpa on the dors. I pointed Merk at the wrong graphic. Sackcloth and ashes here.
[20:15] <elfy> :D
[20:15] <coffeecat> *dots*
[20:15] <elfy> I wasn't pointing fingers coffeecat :)
[20:15] <coffeecat> lol
[20:16] <elfy> time moving on now - we were late and now at an hour :)
[20:16] <coffeecat> elfy - I think wheels have been set in motion for 28th....
[20:17] <elfy> coffeecat: I know deej was going to post to ticket re date after talking to IS
[20:17] <cariboo907> do we need to vote on an official date to do the upgrade?
[20:17] <Iowan> Does this item require anything official?
[20:17] <elfy> coffeecat: do we wait for end of 11th - then post
[20:17] <Iowan> (out-typed)
[20:17] <coffeecat> I suggest we only need to vote if there is any objection to 28th...
[20:17] <elfy> cariboo907 Iowan - I think we need to vote on a couple of things
[20:17] <coffeecat> Of course we don't know yet whether IS can do the 28th
[20:18] <elfy> date and moving anyway if the only things stopping upgrade are 'niggles'
[20:18] <Iowan> k ??
[20:18] <elfy> jono: you might want to look into the forum upgrade issues as well - being community manager ;)
[20:18] <cariboo907> +1 on the date, and if there are only niggles, +1 too
[20:19] <elfy> 2 votes or one?
[20:19] <Iowan> 2
[20:19] <elfy> ok
[20:19] <Iowan> same answer, though
[20:20] <elfy> #vote Approach IS to upgrade live forum on 28 Feb - starting aty 08:00UTC
[20:20] <meetingology> Please vote on: Approach IS to upgrade live forum on 28 Feb - starting aty 08:00UTC
[20:20] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:20] <cariboo907> +1
[20:20] <meetingology> +1 received from cariboo907
[20:20] <Iowan> +1
[20:20] <meetingology> +1 received from Iowan
[20:20] <coffeecat> +1
[20:20] <meetingology> +1 received from coffeecat
[20:20] <elfy> +1
[20:20] <meetingology> +1 received from elfy
[20:20] <elfy> #endvote
[20:20] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Approach IS to upgrade live forum on 28 Feb - starting aty 08:00UTC
[20:20] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:20] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:20] <Iowan> Does that actually answer the wne vote?
[20:21] <Iowan> *2nd
[20:22] <elfy> #vote Upgrade forum to vB4 regardless of small theme/addon issues - further discussion in staff area if needed
[20:22] <meetingology> Please vote on: Upgrade forum to vB4 regardless of small theme/addon issues - further discussion in staff area if needed
[20:22] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:22] <cariboo907> +1
[20:22] <meetingology> +1 received from cariboo907
[20:22] <Iowan> +1
[20:22] <coffeecat> +1
[20:22] <meetingology> +1 received from Iowan
[20:22] <meetingology> +1 received from coffeecat
[20:22] <elfy> +1
[20:22] <meetingology> +1 received from elfy
[20:22] <elfy> #endvote
[20:22] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Upgrade forum to vB4 regardless of small theme/addon issues - further discussion in staff area if needed
[20:22] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:22] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:23] <elfy> ok - I think the only things left are the division of labour/team report
[20:23] <elfy> we can do those in admin channel or SCC imho
[20:23] <coffeecat> +1
[20:23] <Iowan> lets...
[20:23] <cariboo907> +1
[20:24] <elfy> Iowan: lets +1 ? or lets something else :)
[20:24] <Iowan> didn't know it was a vote... OK +1
[20:24] <elfy> it's not :p
[20:24] <elfy> #endmeeting
[20:24] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sun Feb 10 20:24:45 2013 UTC.
[20:24] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-02-10-19.12.moin.txt
[20:24] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-02-10-19.12.html
[20:24] <Iowan> OK - lets do those in admin channel or SCC imho
[20:25] <elfy> yep - that was my hope :)