| kermit | has anyone ever connverted an existing badly mismanaged non dpkg based system to ubuntu by installing apt? | 00:57 |
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| qman__ | what? | 01:07 |
| kermit | i inherited 1000 gentoo systems | 01:08 |
| qman__ | there's no such thing as 'converting' another system to ubuntu | 01:17 |
| qman__ | apt only works because it manages everything | 01:17 |
| SpamapS | kermit: perhaps whoever left them to you should have taken them to the grave instead... :) | 01:17 |
| qman__ | you can't just tack it on and expect anything to improve | 01:17 |
| SpamapS | kermit: you are going to be better off replacing the systems one by one with clean installs | 01:17 |
| qman__ | portage isn't awful, but that assumes the previous maintainer stuck to portage | 01:18 |
| qman__ | lots of people don't | 01:18 |
| qman__ | so yes, the only solution is to replace it system by system | 01:18 |
| SpamapS | with 1000 systems.. frankly even using apt is dicey without some kind of unifying configuration management | 01:19 |
| qman__ | yeah | 01:19 |
| qman__ | you need to put together your roles and standardize at the very least | 01:19 |
| qman__ | even if you don't use a large scale software management solution, you need standard builds | 01:19 |
| SpamapS | Its just a nightmare if you have a problem and the answer isn't to just do a clean install and throw your usual tools at it. | 01:20 |
| qman__ | right | 01:20 |
| qman__ | you have to make those decisions up front in how you're going to do things | 01:21 |
| qman__ | even if they're not ideal for each situation | 01:21 |
| qman__ | I actually just put together the first version of a debian build we're going to use for our LaCie NASes at work | 01:22 |
| qman__ | and we only have a couple hundred of them | 01:22 |
| qman__ | took a couple weeks | 01:22 |
| SpamapS | qman__: "build" meaning something you can repeat with one command? | 01:24 |
| qman__ | not quite but close, it's an image, we copy it to a flash drive | 01:24 |
| qman__ | set up boot order, run a setup script | 01:24 |
| SpamapS | ^5 yeah thats the way to scale out | 01:24 |
| uvirtbot | SpamapS: Error: "5" is not a valid command. | 01:24 |
| qman__ | it auto configures raid based on the number of drives | 01:25 |
| qman__ | auto installs our labtech agent for management | 01:25 |
| qman__ | sets up hostname and mail and all | 01:25 |
| qman__ | we have a bunch of lacies but it could really be used on any x86 device with evenly sized hard drives | 01:26 |
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| verticalvoid | anyone know why when i telnet into my database i'm using for my mail server that when i run the command "SELECT INBOX" Unable to open this mailbox, but I am able to SELECT INBOX.Sent ? | 02:35 |
| patdk-lap | that doesn't make any sense | 02:43 |
| patdk-lap | you can't telnet into a database | 02:43 |
| patdk-lap | sounds more like your telnetting into imap | 02:43 |
| verticalvoid | ok, that's what i'm doing. sure why not. | 03:32 |
| verticalvoid | *shrugs* i dunno. first time attempting installing a homeserver and wanted to try to set up mail on it. excuse me for improper use of terminology. :S | 03:33 |
| verticalvoid | but, yes, i am using telnet localhost imap to get in there | 03:33 |
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| Koheleth | anyone got a small transparent ubuntu server logo? | 11:52 |
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| alimj | Question: I need a file system that supports "Transparent Compression" to store lot's of text files. Inasmuch as EXT* won't do that, what is your recommendaton? Btrfs (Oracle) is still in beta phase, Reiser4 implementation appears to be complicated?! | 14:12 |
| alimj | Or possibly I have to forget compression at all? | 14:13 |
| patdk-lap | I only know of ywo things | 14:17 |
| patdk-lap | use a fuse compression layer ontop of any fs | 14:18 |
| patdk-lap | or use zfs | 14:18 |
| alimj | patdk-lap: Thanks. Will look into that | 14:18 |
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| alimj | patdk-lap: Checked both zfs and fuse. I am going with fuse. It appears that zfs has compliance issues with GPL. I wish that Kernel supported a native filesystem with transparent compression though. Thanks again | 16:06 |
| JanC | alimj: btrfs has transparent compression and is close to be considered stable | 16:29 |
| JanC | some distros will use it by default soon... | 16:29 |
| JanC | depends on how critical your use of it is, of course | 16:30 |
| RoyK | JanC: achem - "closte to be considered stable" is subjective | 16:45 |
| RoyK | alimj: there's a native port http://zfsonlinux.org/ | 16:45 |
| RoyK | dunno how stable it is, though | 16:45 |
| alimj | JanC: Thanks. I was considering btrfs (mentioned in 1st message). However, since it is still in development (by Oracle), we have to wait | 16:46 |
| RoyK | zfs under fuse works ok, but write speeds tend to suck rather badly | 16:46 |
| JanC | RoyK: it's as subjective as considering ext4 stable ;) | 16:46 |
| RoyK | JanC: no, it's not | 16:46 |
| RoyK | JanC: ext4 is used by thousands upon thousands of machines out there, whereas btrfs still changes the ondisk formats | 16:46 |
| JanC | ext4 has been seeing lots of bugs | 16:47 |
| RoyK | JanC: btrfs is still on the bleeding edge | 16:47 |
| RoyK | well, of course, there are bugs | 16:47 |
| RoyK | but not comparible | 16:47 |
| RoyK | if you want to run btrfs, make sure you recompile kernel and btrfsprogs once a week or so | 16:47 |
| JanC | it's difficult to compare if you don't test servers with either of them | 16:48 |
| RoyK | if you ask for help on an issue, running ubuntu 12.10 or perhaps 12.04, they will ask you to install the latest bleeding-edge kernel/userspace from git | 16:48 |
| RoyK | JanC: well, I have 100+ servers on ext4 and a few test machines with btrfs. there are far more issues with those 3(?) btrfs machines than with the rest of the server park | 16:49 |
| RoyK | so I guess I can compare | 16:49 |
| alimj | OK, we currently have more than necessary good and reliable choices. I will use fuse until BtrFS is finalized ... :) | 16:49 |
| RoyK | alimj: I gues that'll happen somewhere around 2017 | 16:50 |
| alimj | !!!!!!!!!!!! | 16:50 |
| JanC | RoyK: well, that might be some good comparison point | 16:50 |
| JanC | RoyK: depending on how you use both ☺ | 16:50 |
| RoyK | raid-[56] support was announced some 3.5 years back and the first git tree with the code was announced a month back | 16:50 |
| RoyK | in btrfs | 16:50 |
| RoyK | and it doesnæt work too well | 16:51 |
| JanC | I wouldn't use RAID 5/6 with btrfs right now | 16:51 |
| RoyK | btrfs development doesn't happen too quickly | 16:51 |
| RoyK | JanC: well, I've just tested it in a vm, was a bit curious | 16:51 |
| JanC | RoyK: I mean, I wouldn't use it in production | 16:52 |
| RoyK | JanC: I used to run some 100TiB zfs machines in my last job | 16:52 |
| RoyK | on openindiana | 16:52 |
| RoyK | if you need zfs, better use something like illumos or freebsd | 16:52 |
| JanC | what I mean is: some parts of btrfs might be stable enough for certain purposes | 16:52 |
| RoyK | JanC: sure, but how can you know which parts? | 16:53 |
| RoyK | it's a lottery | 16:53 |
| JanC | testing ☺ | 16:53 |
| RoyK | better not use btrfs for something in production... | 16:53 |
| RoyK | use ext4 or xfs | 16:54 |
| JanC | and obviously, things that have been tested by others might be a good indication | 16:54 |
| JanC | e.g. have a look at what SuSE will support | 16:55 |
| patdk-lap | personally, I'm doing ext4 ontop of zfs volume | 16:55 |
| patdk-lap | so I get compression, without any ugly linux mess | 16:55 |
| blackjack | hy all | 18:12 |
| blackjack | I'm still confused with this topology, in my ubuntu server using 2 nic, one onboard headed to swith, the second nic toward mikrotik, mikrotik ip 192.168.1.2, http://postimage.org/image/91p7e8eyj/ | 18:14 |
| blackjack | i want to make proxy squid mode bridge, can help my :( | 18:14 |
| alimj | blackjack: Do you mean that you require a transparent proxy? | 18:16 |
| blackjack | alimj, yeah right , can help my sir plz | 18:17 |
| RoyK | blackjack: squid won't bridge, it will proxy | 18:18 |
| RoyK | blackjack: to make your linux box a router, setup nat | 18:18 |
| RoyK | routing+nat | 18:18 |
| RoyK | pretty easy | 18:18 |
| blackjack | RoyK, how to ? | 18:18 |
| blackjack | RoyK, im using mikrotik+ubuntuserver for proxy | 18:19 |
| alimj | blackjack: Let's clarify. What do you really want 1) Share internet 2) Share and cache content | 18:20 |
| RoyK | blackjack: tried googling that? | 18:20 |
| blackjack | alimj, number two share and cache content, i use squid/lusca | 18:21 |
| blackjack | RoyK, already sir | 18:21 |
| RoyK | http://bit.ly/UU4uJi | 18:21 |
| blackjack | alimj, and RoyK so far I only use 1 nic and now I'm going to try the method bridges, by using the 2 nic, but im confuse | 18:22 |
| RoyK | what are you trying to do? | 18:22 |
| RoyK | single nic to router and then another to your home lan? | 18:22 |
| alimj | blackjack: Then you require routing+nat+transparrent squid+ip tables. It is a long story. Not easy to say on IRC | 18:22 |
| alimj | RoyK: I think he wants to NAT but meanwhile, cache HTTP content. | 18:23 |
| RoyK | routing is easy, nat is pretty easy (with iptables), transparent squid proxy is very easy (with iptables) after a quick google search | 18:24 |
| blackjack | alimj, yeah i now, before im using 1 nic, this http://images01.olx.co.id/ui/15/75/41/1319911088_270737441_2-JASA-SETTING-ROUTER-MIKROTIK-SQUID-EXTERNAL-PROXY-SERVER-Bisa-di-Set-Dari-jarak-Jauh-Pekan-Baru.jpg | 18:24 |
| blackjack | now il try this http://postimage.org/image/91p7e8eyj/ | 18:24 |
| blackjack | so ? | 18:25 |
| RoyK | oh, mikrotik - I guess you want to configure that router to use the squid proxy? | 18:25 |
| RoyK | or not | 18:25 |
| RoyK | just saw that last image | 18:26 |
| RoyK | well, first of all, configure the two NICs on different subnets | 18:26 |
| RoyK | setup NAT | 18:26 |
| RoyK | setup transparent proxying | 18:26 |
| RoyK | if you bridge, you wan't be able to control traffic that easily | 18:27 |
| qman__ | you can do it as a bridge | 18:27 |
| qman__ | http://freecode.com/articles/configuring-a-transparent-proxywebcache-in-a-bridge-using-squid-and-ebtables | 18:27 |
| qman__ | it's not easy but it's doable | 18:27 |
| RoyK | as I said "not that easily" | 18:27 |
| blackjack | no, I use a mikrotik to share the bandwidth, and I'm using ubuntu server as a proxy | 18:28 |
| RoyK | and imho there's no point of bridging if you can use nat | 18:28 |
| qman__ | reduced complexity, drop-in replacement | 18:28 |
| blackjack | qman__, RoyK alimj what the best, 1 nic or 2 nic | 18:28 |
| RoyK | blackjack: just setup a different ip subnet for the second nic | 18:29 |
| RoyK | enable nat | 18:29 |
| alimj | I would say NAT with 2 nics | 18:29 |
| RoyK | when that works, go further with transparent proxying | 18:29 |
| blackjack | hmm meaby i know | 18:29 |
| alimj | With 1 nic, users can setup IPs manually and connect to your mikrotik directly (bypassing Squid entirly) | 18:30 |
| RoyK | if you have 10.10.10.0/24 on the wan side of that server, setup 10.10.11.0/24 on the other (or something) | 18:30 |
| blackjack | pic just example, this my config | 18:30 |
| RoyK | pastebin it | 18:31 |
| blackjack | http://dpaste.com/918731/ | 18:33 |
| RoyK | blackjack: just drop the bridging | 18:35 |
| alimj | blackjack: It is already too late here. I have to go. Hope the others would help. Good luck | 18:35 |
| RoyK | blackjack: setup eth0 on 192.168.1.250 and eth1 on 192.168.2.250 (or something) and configure nat | 18:35 |
| alimj | RoyK: I think that he could mix these two solutions: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-setup-transparent-proxy-squid-howto.html & http://codeghar.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/ubuntu-12-04-ipv4-nat-gateway-and-dhcp-server/ | 18:38 |
| blackjack | RoyK, alimj i use this config http://dpaste.com/918734/ | 18:38 |
| blackjack | on rc.local | 18:38 |
| blackjack | whether this is true ? | 18:39 |
| RoyK | blackjack: and I would recommend against using a bridge - as alimj posted | 18:39 |
| RoyK | blackjack: anyway, using rc.local for configuring network isn't really a good idea | 18:39 |
| RoyK | better do it properly in /etc/network/interfaces | 18:40 |
| alimj | RoyK: It is too complex. Too much for IRC. Blackjack: Follow those two posts. 1st setup Nat mode and then setup transparent cache proxy for HTTP (Port 80) | 18:40 |
| RoyK | blackjack: really, get rid of that config in rc.local, and setup the two nics with addresses on different networks | 18:41 |
| RoyK | enable routing | 18:41 |
| RoyK | enable nat | 18:41 |
| blackjack | alimj, my My proxy is running, I just want to use the bridge method | 18:41 |
| RoyK | when that works, enable transparent proxy | 18:41 |
| blackjack | RoyK, ok | 18:41 |
| alimj | OK. Then I have to say goodbye and wish you all good luck :) See you | 18:42 |
| RoyK | nite, alimj | 18:42 |
| blackjack | thank you RoyK alimj :D | 18:42 |
| miker | Yeah, I need big help. | 18:46 |
| miker | It has to do with ubuntu server networking setup, I have a thread on Ubuntu Forums with more information. | 18:48 |
| miker | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12497490 | 18:49 |
| miker | If someone could just look at that, and possibly help me or direct me to help. That'd be amazing. | 18:49 |
| RoyK | miker: packet loss? does ifconfig report it? | 18:52 |
| RoyK | btw, you should add a netmask to ifconfig | 18:52 |
| RoyK | or to /etc/network/interfaces | 18:53 |
| miker | How do I know if ifconfig reports it? | 18:53 |
| RoyK | pastebin ifconfig -a | 18:53 |
| miker | Once sec. | 18:54 |
| RoyK | !pastebinit | 18:55 |
| ubottu | pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com | 18:55 |
| miker | I'll add "netmask 255.255.255.0" then try it. | 18:55 |
| RoyK | it won't help your problem | 18:55 |
| qman__ | honestly, it's probably a defect in the switch | 18:55 |
| RoyK | qman__: the ifconfig output from that post shows no bad packages | 18:56 |
| miker | But when I have it hooked up to my windows computer it works flawlessly no packet loss at all. | 18:56 |
| qman__ | if you watch a tcpdump/wireshark capture and see a bunch of random garbage, that'll confirm it | 18:56 |
| RoyK | s/packages/packets/ | 18:56 |
| qman__ | oh, no errors/dropped? | 18:56 |
| RoyK | monitoring the switch may help as well | 18:57 |
| RoyK | but, miker, pastebin ifconfig -a first | 18:57 |
| Sendoushi | been starting to use ubuntu and having some fun with it. Now i want to do a virtual machine for a home server. i'm a developer which wants to try out the development on my own network. Talking about LAMP and Node.js. Should I go with ubuntu or server or... even devian? | 19:00 |
| RoyK | doesn't matter much | 19:00 |
| RoyK | depends what you like | 19:00 |
| Sendoushi | what would be the main difference in your point of view? | 19:01 |
| RoyK | starting out with a 12.04 server (or perhaps 12.10 if it's only for development) should do | 19:01 |
| RoyK | Sendoushi: about the same difference as between blondes and brunettes | 19:01 |
| qman__ | the difference is the default set of packages and the release schedule | 19:01 |
| Sendoushi | eheh | 19:01 |
| qman__ | you can do pretty much whatever you want with both | 19:01 |
| Sendoushi | i don't know much about the linux terminal and such but... i guess i'll try a ubuntu server | 19:02 |
| Sendoushi | it doesnt hurt to try! | 19:02 |
| RoyK | nope | 19:02 |
| Sendoushi | i already have a ubuntu desktop installed also | 19:02 |
| qman__ | one thing you will quickly learn is that server applications are administered by the command line | 19:03 |
| RoyK | ubuntu desktop is merely ubuntu server with a ton of X stuff | 19:03 |
| qman__ | it's not that difficult though, don't let it scare you off | 19:04 |
| Sendoushi | i kind of like the command line ehehe | 19:04 |
| RoyK | good | 19:04 |
| Sendoushi | just get to get used to it | 19:04 |
| RoyK | it's got a rather steep learning curve, but once you know it, well, it makes things rather much easier | 19:05 |
| qman__ | use the tab key | 19:05 |
| qman__ | it is your friend | 19:05 |
| Sendoushi | tab key? | 19:05 |
| Sendoushi | aaah ok ehehe | 19:05 |
| Sendoushi | to get stuff already there :) | 19:05 |
| Sendoushi | i use it on sublime text ehehe | 19:05 |
| Sendoushi | or even c++ | 19:05 |
| qman__ | ubuntu has lots of tab completion built in by default | 19:06 |
| qman__ | for more than just filse | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | sometimes its actually overzealous | 19:06 |
| * RoyK uses RHEL at work and doesn't like it too muc, except it's very stable | 19:06 | |
| SpamapS | Like I don't care that the file is called .foo I know its a tar.. | 19:07 |
| SpamapS | RoyK: "stable" how? | 19:07 |
| RoyK | as in rock stable | 19:07 |
| SpamapS | if you mean it never changes and has tons of outdated software.. agreed.. very stable. :) | 19:08 |
| RoyK | of course | 19:08 |
| RoyK | but if you only need samba or apache or some mysql or postgresql server, it's stable | 19:08 |
| qman__ | I actually ran into a customer who was still using a redhat 7 server a few months back | 19:08 |
| qman__ | they wanted me to restore some files from tape backup | 19:08 |
| SpamapS | RoyK: MySQL 5.1 is *way* less reliable than 5.5.... | 19:08 |
| RoyK | agreed | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | RoyK: its slower, it breaks on more replication scenarios, and has a dangerous optimizer that chooses horrible query plans. | 19:09 |
| RoyK | but then, I don't like mysql in the first place | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | RoyK: so yes, its predictably crap. :) | 19:09 |
| miker | But it did report the packet loss. | 19:09 |
| RoyK | what nic? | 19:10 |
| miker | http://s9.postimage.org/4ljuzsw5b/IMG_20130210_130345.jpg | 19:10 |
| miker | eth0 | 19:10 |
| RoyK | what sort of nic, is what I meant | 19:10 |
| miker | "dropped: 43" | 19:10 |
| miker | You mean like speed or brand? | 19:10 |
| RoyK | miker: pastebin is a bit better ;) | 19:10 |
| RoyK | brand | 19:10 |
| miker | Yea I tried to pastebin it but it wouldn't uplead because of the packet loss. | 19:11 |
| RoyK | heh | 19:12 |
| RoyK | miker: what distro version? | 19:12 |
| miker | 12.10 | 19:12 |
| RoyK | and what nic? | 19:13 |
| qman__ | lspci | grep net | 19:13 |
| miker | And I'm looking up the brand, it's just a built in one on a IBM xServe 335 | 19:13 |
| Sendoushi | how many space (hard drive) do you think that the system needs? | 19:13 |
| RoyK | miker: lshw | 19:13 |
| RoyK | pastebin that | 19:13 |
| qman__ | Sendoushi, a stock install of ubuntu server takes approximately 1GB, though 2-4GB is going to be a lot more comfortable | 19:14 |
| qman__ | if you intend to have files and stuff saved, bigger is always better | 19:14 |
| Sendoushi | ok so... 4gb plus like... 2gb for files | 19:14 |
| Sendoushi | since it is only supposed to be server | 19:14 |
| miker735 | Okay. | 19:20 |
| miker735 | It's a Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5703X Gigabit card | 19:20 |
| miker735 | And http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1634045/ that's pastebin lshw | 19:21 |
| Sendoushi | installer is asking for partition disks | 19:26 |
| Sendoushi | what is this LVM thing? | 19:26 |
| Sendoushi | what should i use? | 19:26 |
| miker | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1634069/ that's for ifconfig -a | 19:26 |
| miker | What should I do? | 19:28 |
| qman__ | have you tried different switch ports? also, if you can, watch the traffic from the switch's point of view | 19:30 |
| miker | Let me try another port. | 19:31 |
| miker | I don't think I can monitor it from my switch | 19:32 |
| qman__ | Sendoushi, for a VM you probably don't need lvm, I'd just go manual and make one partition the full size of the virtual disk | 19:32 |
| qman__ | miker, can you ping from the switch? | 19:32 |
| Sendoushi | well gone for lvm | 19:32 |
| Sendoushi | now http proxy | 19:32 |
| Sendoushi | should i ignore this for now? | 19:32 |
| qman__ | if you don't know, leave it blank | 19:32 |
| Sendoushi | i think i need this http thing | 19:32 |
| Sendoushi | ok then | 19:32 |
| RoyK | miker: those broadcom NICs are rather infamous for their drivers | 19:34 |
| RoyK | broadcom doesn't document their hardware openly, so unless you sign a badass NDA, you won't get access to them | 19:34 |
| Sendoushi | damn just installed lamp | 19:35 |
| RoyK | if you do, you can't write open source software | 19:35 |
| miker | New port doesn's help | 19:39 |
| Sendoushi | when they said "no gui" it was reallly no gui | 19:39 |
| Sendoushi | so... how does the ubuntu desktop just weights the same than ubuntu server? | 19:39 |
| qman__ | what? | 19:40 |
| miker | 19:41 | |
| qman__ | miker, in that case, it's probably the NIC or the switch config | 19:41 |
| qman__ | the problem with old cisco gear is that it's old, and they often have bad ports and stuff, but usually it's only a couple, otherwise nothing would work | 19:42 |
| miker | What could I change? Because when I bring the switch up to my room it runs perfect, 0% packet loss. | 19:42 |
| Sendoushi | how can i get the pt keyboard layout?? | 19:42 |
| miker | And I use the same port in my room as I do for my server. | 19:42 |
| miker | dpkg reconfigure keyboard | 19:43 |
| qman__ | in that case I suspect the NIC or NIC driver in the server | 19:43 |
| miker | But when I connect my server straight to my router I get no packet loss. | 19:43 |
| qman__ | yes | 19:44 |
| miker | How could it be the drivers then? | 19:44 |
| qman__ | what I'm saying is, there's an incompatibility between your NIC or driver and that cisco switch | 19:44 |
| unami | Hi there. I'm configuring a Ubuntu server on an existing network, and I was wondering if there was a good guide for configuring Postfix. I'm unsure about whether I need to be configured as an internet site, or a satellite. There is an existing smtp server that I would need to use for sending any mail. | 19:44 |
| qman__ | if the switch has any VoIP features or STP on, I'd try turning those off | 19:45 |
| qman__ | and any extra functionality beyond dumb switch, and see if it solves the issue | 19:45 |
| qman__ | unami, if you are using an existing SMTP server, then you need either satellite system or internet site with smarthost | 19:46 |
| qman__ | which depends on how you want to use postfix | 19:46 |
| qman__ | if you only want local mail to get to the internet, smarthost | 19:46 |
| qman__ | if you want to provide mailboxes for other systems and users, internet site | 19:46 |
| qman__ | err | 19:46 |
| qman__ | if you only want local mail to get to the internet, satellite | 19:46 |
| qman__ | if you want to provide mailboxes for other systems and users, internet site with smarthost | 19:46 |
| Sendoushi | damn how will i know what layout of keyboard i have and how to get the right one? | 19:47 |
| unami | qman__: This is helpful - thank you. | 19:48 |
| miker | I'm not even sure if this switch has any special features like that. | 19:54 |
| Sendoushi | not getting the right keyboard setup :s | 19:57 |
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| Sendoushi | not even getting the / | 20:01 |
| Sendoushi | i'm accessing console-setup for the keyboard but not really changing a thing | 20:06 |
| Sendoushi | besides vim is there any easier text editor? | 20:25 |
| maswan | Sendoushi: nano is often recommended for something easier to learn | 20:27 |
| Sendoushi | how can i nano? | 20:27 |
| Sendoushi | damn i dont get it keyboard layout was just fine and now restarted the machine and once again... on the wrong one | 20:27 |
| Sendoushi | how can i change display resolution? | 20:31 |
| Sendoushi | guys how can i access the cd? | 20:44 |
| Sendoushi | isn't there something like a dir from dos? | 20:44 |
| Sendoushi | i need to get to the folder media inside the cd (i think it is there) | 20:45 |
| _Andrei_ | what do you mean by cd ? Sendoushi , the comand line ? | 21:39 |
| Sendoushi | already solved | 21:40 |
| Sendoushi | thanks | 21:40 |
| Sendoushi | :) | 21:40 |
| _Andrei_ | oh yes change dir | 21:40 |
| Sendoushi | already installed apache also and now checking how to do stuff on this | 21:40 |
| Sendoushi | like... how can i connect to the ftp and such | 21:40 |
| Sendoushi | or even dock it on my mac | 21:40 |
| _Andrei_ | ok ;) | 21:40 |
| Sendoushi | ideas on how to do this? | 21:40 |
| Sendoushi | i'm using a vm | 21:40 |
| Sendoushi | ips are different, tried to bridge already but... not really working | 21:41 |
| Sendoushi | but accessing the ip of the ubuntu machine... works so... | 21:41 |
| _Andrei_ | you're on an apple vm on ubuntu ? | 21:41 |
| Sendoushi | apple vm | 21:42 |
| _Andrei_ | i'm on Ubuntu actually but MacOS i don't really know how it works | 21:43 |
| Sendoushi | i also would like to change the display resolution of the machine | 21:43 |
| Sendoushi | noe it is something around 1024x768 or something | 21:43 |
| Sendoushi | but i would like to have like 500x768 | 21:43 |
| _Andrei_ | have you asked some questions on #ubuntu channel ? | 21:44 |
| Sendoushi | something like that. like a column so i can work on the other side you know? | 21:44 |
| Sendoushi | i did | 21:44 |
| Sendoushi | i tried | 21:44 |
| _Andrei_ | hope you'll find out, got to go, sorry | 21:45 |
| Sendoushi | no problemo cya | 21:46 |
| Sendoushi | how can i set a nfs folder on ubuntu server? | 21:56 |
| Sendoushi | ubuntu server is inside a vm on mac and i want to access a folder inside ubuntu | 21:56 |
| awaterma | hey all | 23:31 |
| awaterma | I wonder if anyone's seen issues with installing vmbuilder on 12.10? I can't seem to install that nor python-vmbuilder due to missing (and uninstallable) dependencies? | 23:32 |
| SpamapS | awaterma: uninstallable packages are a pretty serious (and usually easily fixed) bug. Perhaps report it? | 23:35 |
| awaterma | I've only seen it on this local machine, I run 12.10 on a server and don't have this problem. | 23:35 |
| Patrickdk | make sure you run apt-get update first | 23:35 |
| awaterma | Yeah, I've updated and upgraded all sources. No complaints. | 23:36 |
| awaterma | However, when I try and install python-vmbuilder I get: | 23:37 |
| awaterma | The following packages have unmet dependencies: python-vm-builder : Depends: debootstrap (>= 1.0.9) but it is not installable | 23:38 |
| awaterma | launchpad says it's available: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/vm-builder/0.12.4+bzr481-0ubuntu1 | 23:39 |
| g16 | I thought that 0.12.4 < 1.0.9. | 23:40 |
| g16 | oh, it's another package, my bad, please ignore my comment. | 23:40 |
| awaterma | got it. | 23:43 |
| awaterma | Works if I update the mirror: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/all/ubuntu-vm-builder/download | 23:43 |
| awaterma | No fun running quantal on this old mac mini server. Nearly all working now, though. | 23:44 |
| awaterma | One would think that "tasksel" would install a way to make vms for a server that handles virtual machines .... | 23:44 |
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