[01:56] <derekv> how the heck do you pageup in irssi if you have a pageup
[01:56] <derekv> key
[02:23] <derekv> nvm
[02:35] <snap-l> rick_h_: JoDee doesn't do a whole lot with scopes
[02:36] <snap-l> mostly because owning a good scope in Michigan is pointless
[02:36] <snap-l> we get 1/3 of the year with cloudless skies at tops. :)
[04:12] <derekv> pyramid is turning out to be a bit heavier than what I was hoping.  maybe should have gone with flask
[04:13] <derekv> or have gone through the longer tutorials
[05:28] <rick_h_> what's heavy?
[05:29] <rick_h_> derekv: ^
[05:29] <rick_h_> snap-l: :( oh well
[05:29] <rick_h_> need to wait a bit anyway
[05:29] <rick_h_> still cool to ponder
[06:28] <derekv> fuuuu  how come i have two elements, tal:condition="logged_in" and tal:condition="not:logged_in" and they both show?
[13:05] <rick_h_> derekv: code?
[13:37] <snap-l> Good morning
[13:38] <snap-l> rick_h_: addendum: You live in Clarkston, so getting a scope is a good idea
[13:38] <snap-l> just don't go out and get a mini-observatory. :)
[13:38] <snap-l> At least not yet. :)
[13:39] <rick_h_droid> lol why does Clarkston matter?
[13:40] <rick_h_droid> http://www.telescope.com/Telescopes/Dobsonian-Telescopes/GoTo-Dobsonians/Orion-SkyQuest-XX12g-GoTo-Truss-Tube-Dobsonian-Telescope/pc/1/c/12/sc/30/p/102022.uts hehe
[13:58] <jrwren> less light polution
[13:58] <jrwren> down here in Milan we get even less.
[14:08] <snap-l> Yeah, there's a lot more light polution around here.
[14:09] <snap-l> rick_h_droid: Think of telescopes like golf clubs. You can spend yourself blind trying to get one more yard. :)
[14:09] <snap-l> rick_h_droid: Also, if you buy that one, JoDee will be over. A lot.
[14:12] <rick_h_droid> lol
[14:13] <rick_h_droid> I think it'll be a bit. We had fun but will be cool when he's older. Looks like there's an astronomy club in Clarkston though can't tell if it's active.
[14:36] <snap-l> What's it called?
[14:38] <rick_h_droid> snap-l http://www.go-astronomy.com/astronomy-club.php?ID=183
[14:38] <snap-l> Hm, haven't heard of that one
[14:39] <snap-l> I think it's called The Oakland Astronomy Club
[14:39] <snap-l> er, n/m
[14:39] <snap-l> JoDee just said "That's the Oakland one"
[14:39] <snap-l> I thought it changed names or something
[14:39] <rick_h_droid> yea not lot of info there
[14:42] <snap-l> I know where you can take some astronomy courses at community colleges. ;)
[14:43] <rick_h_droid> lol
[16:49] <derekv> Alembic!
[16:49] <derekv> imma use it
[16:50] <derekv> later
[16:50] <derekv> for now, I can just blow it away
[16:51] <derekv> so next i need a script to drop tables and recreate them i can call from the python console easily
[16:52] <derekv> a little like the initialize_db script but in git so that I can evoke it on heroku
[16:55] <derekv> drop_all() create_all()
[17:22] <jrwren> of course.
[17:22] <jrwren> use south.
[17:32] <rick_h_> south if for django :P
[17:32] <rick_h_> and /me hates south...
[17:33] <derekv> i made a script called blastdb
[17:33] <derekv> and i run the app with foreman
[17:33] <derekv> then i connect to it with foreman run python
[17:34] <rick_h_> so what db are you storing stuff in on heroku?
[17:34] <derekv> and i can'r run the sciprt
[17:34] <rick_h_> sqlite won't work
[17:34] <derekv> rick_h_: deploying to heroku, postgres
[17:34] <rick_h_> forman is just the local app runner
[17:34] <rick_h_> can it run back side scripts?
[17:34] <derekv> yea, running with foreman because i want to test the blastdb script
[17:35] <derekv> rick_h_: you can get a python console in you apps environment with 'heroku run python'
[17:35] <derekv> thats how i created the database in the first place
[17:36] <derekv> by looking at the initialize_db script and improvising
[17:36] <rick_h_> derekv: yes
[17:36] <derekv> but i want to be able to do it with one command so i don't have to figure it out each time
[17:36] <rick_h_> just never needed to so didn't realize how that worked
[17:36] <derekv> so my project.scipts.blastdb imports from ..models , which apparently evokes project.__init__, which imports stuff from pyramid, and fails with no module named pyramid.config
[17:36] <rick_h_> right, this is what a Makefile is for
[17:36] <rick_h_> to automate things
[17:37] <derekv> i don't think i can run a makefile
[17:37] <derekv> actually
[17:37] <derekv> maybe, but only on a push
[17:37] <rick_h_> hah, yea, now you can see why I have https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/bookie/models/__init__.py#L49
[17:38] <rick_h_> so I can do https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/scripts/readability/existing.py#L99
[17:39] <derekv> http://agile-hamlet-2168.herokuapp.com/
[17:40] <derekv> or maybe not =(
[17:40] <rick_h_> loaded
[17:40] <rick_h_> just took a while to start it seems
[17:40] <rick_h_> lol, Envy Code R?
[17:40] <derekv> yea must go to sleep idk
[17:41] <derekv> =]
[17:41] <rick_h_> yea, heroku does that on the free tier
[17:41] <derekv> just for fun
[17:41] <rick_h_> after about an hour idle it shuts down the app and first request brings it back up
[17:41] <derekv> login as rick
[17:41] <derekv> rick_h_: i can imagine, i usually have a few apps with little or just totally empty
[17:41] <rick_h_> http://agile-hamlet-2168.herokuapp.com/event-types/4
[17:42] <derekv> 'heroku create' makes an app, there's probably tons of unused apps
[17:42] <derekv> rick_h_: =]
[17:43] <derekv> i need to rename everything
[17:43] <derekv> i hate "event types"
[17:43] <derekv> thinking of finding a url... but right now just leaning towards 'create a clicker' and a clicker registers clicks
[17:44] <derekv> so i need to have a favorites table, so you can see at least the clickers youve created
[17:45] <derekv> i'm already calling them clickers
[17:51] <derekv> man, if you put a spring app to sleep
[17:51] <derekv> could take like 2, 3 minutes to wake up
[17:52] <derekv> which i guess would serve you right
[18:07] <derekv> so this DBSession is basically a global?
[18:19] <derekv> mah script works
[20:00] <Blazeix> jumped from herbstluftwm to i3
[20:00] <Blazeix> i3 is incredibly unusable in its default configuration
[20:01] <Blazeix> but after spending a few hours hacking it, it's exactly how i want it.
[20:20] <rick_h_droid> yea that was my impression of i3
[20:20] <rick_h_droid> maybe I should spend more config time on it
[20:20] <rick_h_droid> what was it that killed herb...?
[20:21] <Blazeix> manual tiling was too much thinking
[20:21] <Blazeix> i basically pretended it didn't exist, but there were a few edge cases that forced me to manually tile
[20:22] <rick_h_droid> yea i3 was a bit like that ootb
[20:22] <Blazeix> i3 is incredibly flexible. it comes with vim-style modes and marks
[20:22] <Blazeix> but i've disabled all modes, specifically the stupid resize mode thing
[20:27] <rick_h_droid> yea
[20:35] <derekv> who was it that i was listening to recently that wasn't really a developer that ended up getting into haskell because of xmonad
[20:35] <derekv> maybe it was the solarized guy
[20:35] <derekv> maybe this is what powershell should have been : http://pythonnet.sourceforge.net/
[20:36] <derekv> maybe china is on the top of the world, and we're walking upside down!
[22:03] <derekv> Typo of the week:  ForeignKey('EventTypoe.eid')
[22:05] <Blazeix> nice
[22:07] <greg-g> rick_h_droid: that is some sexy looking wood
[22:07] <rick_h_> greg-g: :)
[22:08] <rick_h_> not had much time lately, but starting to look like something
[22:08] <rick_h_> looking forward to pres day :)
[22:09] <greg-g> :)
[22:33] <derekv> i saw this sigle line lambda thing and was like D=
[22:33] <derekv> but then i saw def over def and was like =D
[22:34] <derekv> rick_h_: so the return from your view needs to be a dict/or array of dicts or arrays?
[22:35] <derekv> cant just pass a list of objects?
[22:35] <derekv> seems to be what I'm getting but I'm hoping I'm doing it wrong and don't have to turn my objects into dicts always
[22:37] <rick_h_droid> so the dict keys turn into variable names in the template scope. without you don't have easy access
[22:42] <derekv> D=