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SonikkuAmericaMathnerd314, I doubt it was meant to send stuff; I'm not too sure of your phone specs.00:00
zykotick9jonboy: do you have any other questions?  i'll be leaving very shortly.00:00
specialpurposezykotick9: it doesn't look like anyone here is able to help and I am under time pressure -- is there a "cheap" way I can buy my way out of it?00:00
specialpurposezykotick9: I cannot pay $250.oo for support00:00
jonboyzykotick9: nope. I just changed the permissions and everything works great.  I owe you...00:00
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zykotick9jonboy: well done00:00
specialpurposezykotick9: however, I would pay $25 surely00:01
zykotick9specialpurpose: i doubt many people use virtual interfaces, i never have.  good luck man.00:01
PhysicistUbuntu tweak does not open! Any devoce?00:04
PhysicistUbuntu tweak does not open! Any device?00:04
specialpurposeIf no one in the Ubuntu channel knows how to bring up eth0:1 with a DHCP address and no one offers paid support <$250 is there a Linux-Networking channel someone can refer me to?  I tried google forever.  I am running out of places to go.00:06
zykotick9specialpurpose: there is a ##networking as well as ##linux channels00:06
user01i have a question . . . if i have a proxy at work that uses port 3001 let's say, and i have a server at home that i want to start a vnc session on, if i change the port setting to 3001 on the server would this allow me to open a vnc session from work?00:07
iFlipspecialpurpose im late in this convo but have you setup the interface config file?00:08
zykotick9user01: #debian-offtopic didn't answer eh? ;)00:08
user01nope!00:08
SonikkuAmericauser01: So long as 3001 isn't used by the target machine I don't see how it wouldn't work...00:08
SonikkuAmericato transmit00:08
specialpurposeiFlip: I was wondering how to do this from the command line but if you know how using the interfaces config file that is a good start00:08
specialpurposeiFlip: I was unable to have any success with it from either00:09
iFlipsudo vi etc/network/interfaces00:09
user01zykotick9, im using different distros, thought i would check!00:10
specialpurposeiFlip: I tried adding lines "auto eth0:2" and "iface eth0:2 inet dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces and had no success.00:11
ivan__hi00:12
iFlipgimme a sec00:12
dydz_heres my network controller info: http://pastebin.com/r9rAZXeU   -- my internet is going very very slow (tried speedtest.net)00:12
nibblerspecialpurpose: did you get my solution? i was playing with my devices, so might have been actually disconnected while telling you how to do this00:12
specialpurposenibbler: I did not.00:12
nibbler<nibbler> specialpurpose: just figured it out00:13
nibbler<nibbler> specialpurpose: first you create a virtual interface in bridge mode: 'ip link add link eth0 veth1 type bridge' - i believe this means its bound to eth0. certainly the name is veth1. then you add the eth0 to the just created bridge: 'brctl addif veth1 eth0'00:13
nibbler<nibbler> this results in two devices, both accessing the same media. i was able to dhclient both of them - they share one MAC, which is ok for a bridge...00:13
nibbler<nibbler> ...and in general: don't use ifconfig, and double-dont-use-it if you do heave networking stuff ;)00:13
FloodBot1nibbler: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:13
iFlipit should look like this http://hpaste.org/8206600:13
Mathnerd314SonikkuAmerica: well, I should be able to at least play audio from the phone onto the computer, and that isn't working00:14
iFliphere's the full http://hpaste.org/8206700:14
iFlipthen type: sudo ifdown --- then --- sudo ifup00:15
SonikkuAmericaMathnerd314, yes, that should be a distinct possibility00:16
dxmxubuntu is amazing00:16
nibblerspecialpurpose: tell me if it works...00:16
specialpurposeiFlip: your solution obtains a DHCP address for eth0.  I need a static IP address assigned to eth0.  I was attempting to obtain a dynamic IP address on eth0:N00:16
specialpurposenibbler: attempting now -- if I am disconnected I will be back00:17
iFlipoh I thought you wanted dhcp00:17
specialpurposeiFlip: I want DHCP and static both using same physical device.00:18
SonikkuAmericaMathnerd314, it should be able to connect manually as the computer being the audio sink... see if you can use blueman to send the audio to your computer speakers.00:18
LVLAaronI could really use some help getting my kernel fixed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/253244/reinstall-latest-kernel/253246#25324600:22
histoLVLAaron: Did the reinstall actually reinstall the packages?00:25
LVLAaronYes.00:25
histoLVLAaron: Then reboot and select the new kernel it installed00:25
LVLAaronI did.00:25
histoLVLAaron: Then the problem is?00:26
dr_willisnow dance a happy jig around the pc....00:26
dr_willis;P00:26
LVLAaronhisto, did you read thread?00:26
LVLAaronhisto, it still tries to load the busted module and goes into panic00:26
histoLVLAaron: So the issue is the module not the kernel00:27
LVLAaronok00:27
LVLAaronhow do I get rid of it?00:27
histoLVLAaron: remove or blacklist the module your broke.00:27
LVLAaronhow do I remove it?00:27
histoLVLAaron: Let me look at what you were doing00:27
dr_willisblacklisting it would be the better answer i belive00:27
LVLAaronhttps://github.com/facebook/flashcache/wiki/QuickStart-Recipe-for-Ubuntu-11.1000:28
LVLAaronCan I blacklist/remove it for kernel 3.5.0.23 while running on 3.5.0.17 ?00:28
histoLVLAaron: Did you see the part on removing flashcache from a voluem.00:30
LVLAaronyes00:30
dr_willisthe blacklist configs will work for all the kernels.00:31
dr_willis!blacklist00:31
ubottuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist.conf and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »00:31
histoLVLAaron: blacklist flashcache00:31
LVLAaronIf i wanted to remove it... where is it?00:31
LVLAaronshould I blacklist and get booted on that kernel first?00:31
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Mini_anonhello there00:32
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nevada-smithhi all00:32
LVLAaronbrb. going to try.00:32
dr_willisif you blacklist it.. it should thenbe blacklisted on all kernels00:33
Mini_anoni have two question00:33
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Mini_anonthe first is: how different are the admin privillege in ubuntu are from windows00:34
Mini_anonthe second is gnome shell faster than unity00:34
SonikkuAmericaMini_anon, the answer to your second question is: It all depends on your graphics.00:35
whoeverneed help killin' zombie , bluetooth won't die, tried kill, kill 9 no luck00:36
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Mini_anonSonikkuAmerica: will I loose compatibility with the program i already have?00:37
zykotick9whoever: if it's really "zombie" you'll need to restart to clear it.  but it doesn't actually matter, i don't think.00:37
LVLAaronHere's the error: http://i.imgur.com/ii6JdhF.jpg00:38
SonikkuAmericaMini_anon: The... program? (Clarify please)00:38
LVLAaronMy G is tainted.00:39
LVLAaron!blacklist00:39
ubottuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist.conf and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »00:39
cadgu`aWhy does a fresh nginx install fail to serve anything on 80?00:39
cadgu`aI mean, apt-get purse nginx; apt-get install nginx; service nginx start; nothing on port 8000:40
cadgu`as/purse/purge00:40
cadgu`aI can access it locally but not remotely00:40
_DomY-DomHi, I installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my Macbook Pro (8,1) following your tutorials and everything is fine apart from two things. The wireless connection works but browsing suddenly becomes really slow every now and then and I need to "Enable wireless" and disable it again; it's becoming really annoying and this isn't occuring with any other laptop & OS. Any idea what the problem is ? Secondly, the touchpad sensors are really messed up, it is far too sensitive, 00:41
Mini_anonanother way to put it SonikkuAmerica is: will a change of environment from unity to gnome could hinder the work of some programs that I already have?00:42
SonikkuAmericaMini_anon, no chance at all of that! Both are GNOME 3-based shells.00:43
Mini_anonyay!00:43
LVLAaronhisto, any ideas?00:43
SonikkuAmericaMini_anon, if you're just wanting the DE, just [ sudo apt-get install gnome-shell ].00:43
Mini_anonok thanks00:44
histoLVLAaron: ideas forj? sorry I was away. I would black list the flashcache you where building when everything went south.00:44
LVLAaronI did. I get this: http://i.imgur.com/ii6JdhF.jpg00:44
LVLAaroncan I remove /var/lib/dkms/flashcache ?00:44
histoLVLAaron: Well it's obviously not blacklisted00:45
Mini_anonby the way SonikkuAmerica : can you answer the first question like : how different are the admin privileges in ubuntu are from windows?00:45
histoLVLAaron: Also disable it for the volume if you set that up.00:45
SonikkuAmericaMini_anon, it's kind of complicated how admin works in Windows.00:45
_DomY-DomHi, I installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my Macbook Pro (8,1) following your tutorials and everything is fine apart from two things. The wireless connection works but browsing suddenly becomes really slow every now and then and I need to "Enable wireless" and disable it again; it's becoming really annoying and this isn't occuring with any other laptop & OS. Any idea what the problem is ? Secondly, the touchpad sensors are really messed up, it is far too sensitive, 00:46
LVLAaronhisto, i have "blacklist flashcache" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf00:46
SonikkuAmericaMini_anon, I'd say the "User Account Control" in Windows (Vista+) is similar to [ gksudo ] in Ubuntu. But typically, in any Linux distro, you never want to login as root unless you know what you're doing. Same with booting in "safe mode" with Windows and selecting login as "Administrator."00:47
Mini_anonSonikkuAmerica:  from what i see, i did loose some of my privileges, as admin i cannot see the files of the other regular user, cannot see their weigth cannot delete them00:47
Mini_anonwhich i could do on windows00:49
SonikkuAmericaMini_anon, just [ sudo ] or [ gksudo ] won't let you do that.00:49
SonikkuAmericaBut pure [ su ] might.00:49
Mini_anon:D00:49
histo!sudo | Mini_anon00:49
ubottuMini_anon: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo00:49
Mathnerd314SonikkuAmerica: I've been trying things; but there's nothing there in blueman besides "connect to audio source"00:49
SonikkuAmericaMini_anon, of course you'd have to do [ sudo passwd root ] before you used [ su ] or else it won't work at all.00:49
histoSonikkuAmerica: NO00:50
histoMini_anon: dont' do that00:50
amiuare you sure the device supports bluttoth beyond audio streaming?00:50
histoMini_anon: sudo -i   will give you a root console without passwd00:50
SonikkuAmericaI was just about to say NEVER DO THIS UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.00:50
histoSonikkuAmerica: you can also sudo su   and that works without passwd root. Users shouldn't be enabling root account.00:50
Mini_anonand i don`t know what i will do XD00:51
SonikkuAmericaAnd by KNOW I mean... well... my explanation is so graphical it's NSFW.00:51
histoMini_anon: What are you trying to accomplish?00:51
SonikkuAmericaMathnerd314, I guess your phone just won't do that. It sounds weird, but I can't think of anything beyond that.00:52
Mini_anoni want to be able to see the file of the regular user while im on my admin user : be able to move them, delete them as i would in windows00:53
LVLAaronOK I can't do a blacklist because the module got built into the image, maybe....00:53
dr_willisMini_anon:   unless they are in an encrypted home, you should be able to get to their stuff with a root shell.00:53
Mini_anonthat what i want: histo  SonikkuAmerica00:53
Mathnerd314SonikkuAmerica: I'll also note that various programs (e.g. "gvfsd-obexftp") have been crashing randomly while I've been doing this, so it's probably not a well-tested area :p00:53
dr_willisbluetooth - has such potential.. and been so - well.. under whelming over the years00:54
histoMini_anon: You can give yourself permissions to their home00:54
SonikkuAmericaMini_anon, does [ sudo -i ] or [ sudo su ] work?00:54
CavalierPrimeMini-anon you can use gksudo nautilus to do all that00:54
SonikkuAmericaMini_anon, or, in histo's terms, use [ sudo chmod ] to mess with permission.00:55
histoSonikkuAmerica: either of those will give you a root shell00:55
dr_willisif the system is using an encrypted homes then root will only see the encrypted stuff. not the actual files.00:55
SonikkuAmericahisto: right.00:55
histoMini_anon: I think gksu nautilus   would be the easiest way for you.00:55
jroodhi, i am sucessfully using flstuio, in wine, with mackie onyx blackjack interface as the driver, however, i can only output to the blackjack, i can't record in00:55
jrood*flstudio00:56
histo!appdb | jrood00:56
ubottujrood: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help00:56
dr_willisjrood:  check the wine app database and the #winehq channel00:56
histolol00:56
jroodthanks00:56
histo!manual | Mini_anon You also want to probably check this out.00:57
ubottuMini_anon You also want to probably check this out.: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/00:57
Mini_anonre01:00
sirdotalusis this the proper channel for tech support?01:00
Mini_anonexcuse me i didn`t see your answer it`s raining at home so my connection is less stable01:01
sirdotalusis this the proper channel for tech support01:02
histoMini_anon: use gksu nautilus01:02
sirdotalusi am having issues with my ubuntu 12.4 1368 lts system01:02
histo!manual | Mini_anon and read up on this.01:03
ubottuMini_anon and read up on this.: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/01:03
rudedoggHi, I am trying to use "rm -rf directory", but it's still saying it can't delete it because it's not empty ...01:03
sirdotalusi have been receiving error reports related to my /lib file01:03
histo!destails | sirdotalus01:03
rudedoggis there a different command I can use to delete the directory?01:03
histo!details | sirdotalus01:03
ubottusirdotalus: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."01:03
historudedogg: remove the trailing slash if you have one.01:03
kostkonrudedogg, give us the exact message ytou are getting01:03
rudedogghisto: No trailing slash, just the folder name01:04
rudedoggkostkon: rm: cannot remove `bootstrap/.git/objects/pack': Directory not empty01:04
beanrudedogg, give us the full commandyou're running, too please.01:04
rudedoggrm -r bootstrap01:05
Mini_anonthank you SonikkuAmerica & histo01:05
kostkonrudedogg, -rf01:05
rudedoggyeah just tried that again too, no trailing slash.  Still no luck :(01:05
wwf /join ##crawl01:05
historudedogg: you need to use -rf01:05
wwf\J ##crawl01:05
beanrudedogg, "rm -rf bootstrap" should work01:05
sirdotalusi am running ubuntu 12.4 i386 on a dell latitude 4000 laptop with a usb drive and floppy drive but nop cd, my hardwayre/software specs. 20g harddrive 1gig ram. now the issues have come from multiple programs but the most recent is when attempting to connect to irc with empathy i receive an internal error report haviong to do with my /lib folder01:06
rudedoggrm -rf bootstrap        rm: cannot remove `bootstrap/.git/objects/pack': Directory not empty01:06
beanassuming you're not in the directory.01:06
ghargoilnoob question, but how can  I allow one user to read/access ALL of another user's files?01:06
historudedogg: what's the output of pwd01:06
beanghargoil, that's usually a "bad idea" (tm)01:06
histoghargoil: add the one user to the others group would work01:07
rudedogggot it, I had a code editor open, I think it was accessing the .git file buried in there :S01:07
rudedoggthanks guys01:07
kostkonrudedogg, interesting01:07
historudedogg: np01:07
beanthat'd do it, it probably had a file locked01:07
rudedoggI thought the message would be file in use or something, so I didn't think it was still being accessed01:07
Jpmhrudedogg: do you have permission to kill everything in the dir and its subs?  what remains after you try and remove01:07
rudedoggls -al shows it gone01:07
beanhe got it figured out, Jpmh01:08
sirdotalusempathy says i have gone offline and then the error shows up im bringing up a report now for more details01:08
rudedoggI'm noob so I figured I was messing up the rm command, thanks again :)01:08
historudedogg: lsof would have showed you what was using it01:08
ghargoilhisto: ok, trying/checking01:08
rudedogghisto: that's cool, thanks that'll save me next time01:09
Malinusshello. So I installed ubunto using the "minimal ubuntu", after that I installed the network manager, and gnome. Still even after running the gnm, the window manager doesn't look like the standard ubuntu at all. How can that be?01:10
histoMalinuss: because ubuntu uses unity not gnome01:10
Malinusshisto, oh.. haha well that was a bummer.. facepalm01:11
Malinussthanks01:11
xanguaMalinuss: because you need to install ubuntu-desktop to get...well the whole and default ubuntu desktop01:11
KrisBFollowed instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager to make Thunar to be the default file manager. After executing ./defaultthunar cp: cannot stat `nonautilusplease/nautilus-browser.desktop': No such file or directory.01:11
Malinussxangua, yep I get it now, for some reason I was just sure ubuntu used gnome as the standard window manager, thanks..01:11
histoMalinuss: You don't need to use the ubuntu-desktop meta package if you are trying to stay lean01:12
xanguaMalinuss: ubuntu uses gnome indeed, but with unity as shell01:12
histo!unity | Malinuss01:13
ubottuMalinuss: Unity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity01:13
histoMalinuss: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package that pulls all the other default apps. What exactly are you trying to accomplish.01:13
Malinusswell now I got confused. Sorry I'm very new to linux. I want a lean installation of ubuntu, that "looks" like the orginal ubuntu, just without all the extra software, histo01:14
histoMalinuss: Then install unity01:14
Malinussjust "install unity". so the unity-desktop would install the whole package?01:15
histoMalinuss: unity-desktop is probably another meta package. There is a unity package.01:15
histoMalinuss: I've never tried to do what you are trying to accomplish.01:15
histoMalinuss: If I wanted lean I'd avoid unity in the first place.01:15
DeadWeaselis there a way to change the pcspkr default to play a wav or mp3 instead?  like, catch the event and then trigger another?01:16
DeadWeaseltrying to get system beep to play another sound in 12.0401:16
Malinusshisto, well I still want a nice and slick window manager01:16
DeadWeaselwas a pain to even get the system beep back after their changes!01:16
KrisBMalinuss: Install Cinnamon. :)01:17
MalinussKrisB, I definetly look it up, thanks01:17
Tex_NickMalinuss:  i haven't been following your thread ... but if you want to use a ubuntu 12.xx with an older look ... have you tried using the gnome classic de ?01:17
KxTwoAnyone familiar with computer oganiation and design 4th edition?01:17
MalinussTex_Nick, I actually wanted ubuntu, with the new look. I just installed the mini-version, and want the "orginal" look.01:18
sirdotalusis there any way to bring my system back to the point where i originally installed ubuntu. bring it back to the day i replaced windows(thank god) and my system was fresh and entirely unmodified. preferably without having to download and reinstall the whole operating system again01:18
Tex_NickMalinuss:  oh sorry ... so you want unity :)01:19
MalinussTex_Nick, yeah I just got it all confused and installed gnome instead01:20
DeadWeaselhow to catch the system beep event (same one trigger by '\a') and play a wav or ogg file instead?01:20
DeadWeaseltrying to get IRSSI to send a nice sound instead of system beep on notify event01:20
DeadWeaselubuntu 12.04 x5401:21
DeadWeasel6401:21
SonikkuAmerica*x6401:21
DeadWeaseli ahve stpuid fingers, shoveling snow all day :/01:21
BlueNeXuShello all01:21
Mini_anoncan i configure ubuntu in this way: to launch a search via the windows lens you must input the password01:21
sirdotalusmalinuss...i have unity installed01:21
BlueNeXuScan anyone help me with Docky in Ubuntu?01:21
BlueNeXuSplease01:21
SonikkuAmericaBlueNeXuS, you'll need to be more clear about your problem./01:22
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sirdotalusanyway, i want to bring my ubuntu ack to ground zero is there any way to do that without having to download and re install the whole OS01:22
dr_willissirdotalus:  what all did you do to it? ;)01:23
BlueNeXuSI just started using docky instead of the other options..  so i am new to it.. but anyhow..   i just want to change some of dockys icons for the apps in it.. and i went through dockys settings but theres nothing there..  how do i change icons in docky  to make a long story short01:23
dr_willisGiven how you could hae done all sorts of wonkyness to a  system.. theres no guaranteed way sirdotalus ... it just depends.01:23
Tex_NickMalinuss:  histo made a GOOD point ...unity and lean are kinda conflicting terms :-)01:23
xanguaBlueNeXuS: change your icon them, then docky will use them01:24
Terabytehi, when I try to run wubi from windows 7, it doesn't run (the security dialog pops up as expected) but the process starts, and then promptly dies, with no visual cues, just task manager showing wubi.exe and then not showing it.01:24
MalinussTex_Nick, I'm open to sugestion for others, nice looking, and easy to use, windows managers :)01:24
dr_willisMalinuss:  lubuntu01:24
sirdotalusdidnt do much downloaded a few games from the software centre has some problems installing nethack (the game not a real hack) so i removed nethack, been having internal errors ever since. i havent had this computer but a couple weeks and ubuntu about that long(on this sytem)01:24
pr1nt_01:24
dr_willissirdotalus:  use the terminal. see what sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get upgrade say about the systems package manager status01:25
BlueNeXuSokay, thank you zangua.. simple enough01:25
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Tex_NickMalinuss:  what hardware platform are you using ... if your system is fast enough ... use unity ... otherwise people here can help you downscale to your needs01:26
sirdotalusive run full updates and i still get the errors. i believe they lie within a missing package within /lib but i dont know which is missing/malfuntioning01:26
MalinussTex_Nick, well it's running on the acer aspire d255, but I want a as fast as possible experience. So it *can* run with the full ubuntu package, I just want something more lightweight01:27
Terabyteis there any proper support for wubi?01:27
Terabyteplenty of google results for my problem. no proper solutions01:28
dr_willissirdotalus:  pastebin the exact error messages..01:28
histoMalinuss: I think you want a DE not a window manager01:28
Malinuss"DE"?01:28
histoMalinuss: Desktop environment01:28
sirdotalusdr willis. i was attempting to fix this issue earlier tonight using01:28
dr_willisa window manager is  the foundation of your desktop. ;)01:28
sirdotalussudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair01:28
histoMalinuss: Window managers just handle decorations and the way windows are drawn and where.01:28
war59312why no usb mouse work.. ugh! drving me insane01:28
sirdotalusand it refuses to even download or install the boot repair packages01:28
Malinusshisto, and the DE?01:29
sirdotalusso i cant even get those packages installed01:29
dr_willissirdotalus:  do one command at a time.. look for error messages..  you missed a && in there also01:29
histoMalinuss: Check out xfce or lxde.  If you want even lighter you can run just straight openbox or lookat tiling window managers that can hold up on their onw.01:29
Tex_NickMalinuss:  i don't keep up with lappys much ... what cpu does that use & @ what speed ... how much memory01:30
sirdotalusih/o let me run them again to regain the errors01:30
Malinusshisto, wait, so I don't even need a window manager?01:30
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amiuthe machine doesnt. do you?01:30
histoMalinuss: right you can run just X if you really wanted to.01:30
histoMalinuss: Google xubuntu or lubuntu   xubuntu uses xfce lubuntu uses lxde. You can get an idea of what they look like.01:31
dr_willisyou want to use a window manager.. :) the Lightest Full featured desktop will be Lubuntu which uses LXDE01:31
Malinusshisto, could you pleas take another minute to explain the difference between a window manager, and a desktop enviroment?01:31
histoMalinuss: dr_willis is correct. If want even leaner than that you would go with X and awesome or openbox.01:32
MalinussI still don't get the difference01:32
dr_willisMalinuss:  window manager = Foundation of the house01:32
dr_willishouse = the desktop01:32
iorwethYou can install the other desktops environments from the software manager.01:32
meltylol01:32
histoMalinuss: for instance I can run gnome with openbox or awesome as my window manager.01:32
KxTwohmm anyone know of a channel that might be able to offer me insight on computer organization and design01:32
dr_willishttp://xwinman.org/  guide to window managers and desktop environments for The X Window System,01:33
dr_willisKxTwo:  thats 2 rather vague buzzwords... ;)01:33
MalinussTex_Nick, 1GB ram, and dual core 1.66Ghz01:33
sirdotalusready for this dr willis?01:33
sirdotalusi just received this errpr01:33
sirdotalussudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update01:33
histoMalinuss: You are asking for something that looks like ubuntu.... Well uubntu uses gnome with unity as the shell.  But then you want lighter. unity is not very light because it uses a lot of compiz stuff.01:33
dr_willis!pastebin | sirdotalus01:34
ubottusirdotalus: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:34
sirdotalusdamn it didnt copy it right01:34
sirdotalusmy bad01:34
KxTwodr_willis, I am specifically working on performance, execution time, CPI, instruction count, etc etc.01:34
dr_willisKxTwo:  for Hardware info - theres #hardware01:34
histoMalinuss: For your specs I think you would be more than happy with xubuntu01:34
KxTwonot sure hardware would take care of it01:34
histoMalinuss: if you don't want all the othe bloat that xubuntu-desktop brings in then just install xfce01:34
KxTwospec benchmarks01:34
sirdotalusevent not found01:35
Malinusshisto, I see, howcome I could first install gnome then, and use that, and now I installed unity, and well unity? okay, then xfce it is01:35
dr_willis!pastebin | sirdotalus  READ what the bot is saying01:35
ubottusirdotalus  READ what the bot is saying: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:35
histoMalinuss: The beauty of linux and opensource is that if you dont' like it you can always change.01:35
sirdotalus File "/usr/bin/add-apt-repository", line 125, in <module>     ppa_info = get_ppa_info_from_lp(user, ppa_name)   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/softwareproperties/ppa.py", line 84, in get_ppa_info_from_lp     curl.perform() pycurl.error: (35, 'gnutls_handshake() failed: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.')01:35
Tex_NickMalinuss:  do you intend to run speed critical applications ... cpu intensive stuff ?01:35
histoMalinuss: xfce is a desktop environment like gnome01:35
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Tex_NickMalinuss:  or cpu intensive games ?01:36
Malinusshisto, what is the window manager then? (just tryign to understand this)01:36
dr_willisMalinuss:  the foundaton the rest of the desktop uses...01:36
MalinussTex_Nick, now, but I just want as fast multi-tasking (normally, browsing+music+notes+video)01:36
dr_willisthe wm draws the windows borders... and a few other things01:36
histoMalinuss: Please check this out http://xwinman.org/01:36
sirdotalus!pastebin says event not found but i know its happening because the GUI popups are ridiculous01:36
ubottusirdotalus: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:36
dr_willissirdotalus:  ! commands are channel BOT TRIGGERS.. not commands you type01:37
histoMalinuss: read the introduction on that page01:37
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sirdotalusthen i dont understand what action youy are asking me to take01:38
dr_willisMalinuss:  its trivial to have a dozen+ window managers and desktops01:38
histoMalinuss: Keep in mind that page has some really old screenshots but you will get the basic idea01:38
dr_willissirdotalus:  paste any error messages and logs to the pastebin sites.. do NOT flood the channel with 10+ line log/error messages01:38
Tex_NickMalinuss:  looks to me like what you want to run just won't require that much computing power ... you might just install unity ... it's the latest eye-candy ...try it for a few days ... if it seems slow the downscale :-)01:40
apokalypsewhy doesn't unity sort your apps by category?  then it might be useful01:40
dr_willisthers catatory listings in the dash i recalll....01:40
alcbAt 0:27 in this video (12.04) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGMZkC6Y5fE), he does a something to scale just the one application that has focus.  Is that a separate compiz plugin than stock?01:40
Malinussokay, so normally, a window manager is the program that displays all the windows, how they look etc... And a desktop environment is like this whole package, that includes a window manager, but also has a lot of other things (standard programs, browser etc.).. Right?01:41
sirdotalusyou could have simply said that in the first place instead of saying pastebins three times in a row undefined01:41
musafir2hi, I am currently on gnome and I wanted to install kde, will I get the last 4.10 kde ? im running the last version of ubuntu ?01:41
xanguaalcb: the Scale plugin scales windows :)01:41
histoMalinuss: basically yes01:41
histo!info kde | musafir201:41
ubottumusafir2: Package kde does not exist in quantal01:41
xangua!latest | musafir201:42
xanguamusafir2: most likely no01:42
ubottumusafir2: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.01:42
dr_willismusafir2:  theres some new ppas for the latest kde01:42
iorwethHave anyonet tried out ubuntu on nexus 7?01:42
xanguanot the latest kde if that is what you ask musafir201:42
histo!phone | iorweth01:42
ubottuiorweth: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone01:42
dr_willisubottu   | sirdotalus: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com |01:42
ubottudr_willis: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:42
dr_willisseems sort of clear to me.. but whatever..01:42
fbdystangHey guys, flash plugin for ubuntu does not seem to be working. Running quantal. Please help01:42
musafir2aha thanks yes I found the back repo but I was thinking if there is any official, thanks a lot guys01:42
xangua!doesntwork | fbdystang01:42
ubottufbdystang: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.01:42
sirdotalusalready pasted to the paste bin, now may i ask if you have a clue whats happening?01:43
dr_willismusafir2:  the webupd8 or omgubuntu site just had a posting on how to get the latest kde. and mentioned some potential issues01:43
fbdystangouch. It ran fine until latest update. Now I get a blank screen here: http://www.break.com/index/the-most-brutal-soccer-foul-you-ll-ever-see-241307601:43
Malinusshisto, thanks for the help01:43
dr_willissirdotalus:  and did you tell us the URL of the paste?01:43
Tex_Nickapokalypse:  in unity "dash home" click on the lens's at the bottom01:44
alcbxangua: makes sense, thanks :)01:45
sirdotalushttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1631521/01:46
ahmedipaproblem with ubuntu one01:46
ahmedipaproblem : I cant install ubuntu one01:46
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sirdotalusi apologize if i am being difficult tonight i am just in a furious mood already and then all this error BS started and i cant even copy the damned crash report to show you that01:47
ahmedipait give me this   package have unmet dependencies01:47
dr_willismusafir2:  getting ready to test out the latest kde now.. gotta reboot to get some updates in.. will  be back with it in about 10 min --> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/upgrade-to-kde-sc-410-in-kubuntu-1210.html01:47
dr_willisback in 10.. gota to reboots.01:47
Malinussone question about the unity/gnome. So right now, even though it looks like the orginal ubuntu, I don't have any of the icons on the left sides, how would I add those ?01:47
xanguaMalinuss: did you install ubuntu-desktop ¿01:48
ahmedipahow can I solve this problem ?01:48
Malinussxangua, yeah01:48
Malinussxangua, no wait, no... just unity-desktop. I think01:48
xanguathere is no 'unity-desktop' package01:49
ahmedipawhy ubuntu not stable01:49
ahmedipa??01:49
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histowhy ask queston not make sense01:50
histo??01:50
Malinusseh I don't remember, sorry xangua01:50
ahmedipaalthough ubuntu not stable , I love it01:50
ahmedipaI can not install ubuntu one01:51
Tex_NickMalinuss:  idon't want to confuse your issue, but the term "original ubuntu" original ubuntu goes back many years ;-)01:51
xanguaMalinuss: if you can get to install a desktop from the minimal iso, i suggest you to download and install the normal dektop iso01:51
MalinussTex_Nick, yeah I know. What I mean by "orginal ubuntu", is how the desktop looks when you install the normal desktop01:52
xanguaahmedipa: still no make sence, ubuntu one comes preinstalled in ubuntu and neither you provide an error output01:52
Malinussxangua, yeah I should propably do that, I just kinda wanted to play around and see for myself if I could get the same looks, but without anything extra01:52
ahmedipa xangua: I want to upload image problem what is best link to upload01:53
ahmedipaxangua: I am sorry for that01:54
ahmedipaxangua I know it comes but I do not know why this problem01:54
fbdystangCould someone coach me on how to get flash working after latest update?01:55
KxTwook well #hardware was useless and had a giant douchebag in it01:55
fbdystangNo love at all?01:59
dr_willissay bump about 10 times... ;P that gets lots of love..02:00
dr_willisor hate.. i get the 2 backwards..02:00
ahmedipaI have small question02:00
sirdotaluswelcome back dr willis02:00
sirdotalusso anyway02:01
sirdotalushttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1631521/02:01
sirdotalusany ideas?02:01
ahmedipais update necessary  for ubuntu ?02:01
nibblerfbdystang: update-alternatives --list mozilla-flashplugin02:01
dr_willisYep. i get back.. now the wife is telling me to run to the store///02:02
ahmedipabecause I am worry about no space disk after update02:02
ahmedipawhat do you think02:02
dr_willissirdotalus:  seems to be a rather weird but in pycurl. or the server you are trying to get the update info from is having issues.. thats defintly not a normal error message02:02
ahmedipaanyone can give me feedback about what just I said02:02
xanguaahmedipa: if you want to install or not security updates is mostly up to you02:02
dr_willisahmedipa:  do an apt-get auto-remove and apt-cache clean afterwards02:02
dr_willisthis error seems ot be saying the update server.. is having issues with its TLS stuff.02:03
dr_willispycurl.error: (35, 'gnutls_handshake() failed: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.')02:03
Tex_Nickfbdystang:  type flash into "software center" see if it's installed02:03
runman75hello02:03
ahmedipaxangua:  because I have problem with ubuntu one for files02:03
sirdotalusdr_willis my email is sirsotalus@gamil.com. my thunderbird works fine if your willing to take the challenge maybe you can come back and mail me about it?02:03
dr_willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/110672/add-apt-repository-returns-unexpected-length-error02:03
ahmedipaxangua: i surprise why give me problem02:04
fbdystangOK, checking02:04
sirdotalussirdotalus@gmail.com02:04
dr_willissirdotalus:  see that askubuntu.com post02:04
ahmedipa dr_willis: because ubuntu one give me problem02:04
Tex_Nickdr_willis ... everyone has honey-do's for you :)02:04
ahmedipa dr_willis: may be if I update it will be solved02:04
runman75anyone familiar with the Ultravnc Repeater?02:04
dr_willisahmedipa:  what problem? there is the #ubuntu-one channel also02:04
fbdystangTex_Nick: adobe flash plugin is installed as well as Gnash SWF viewer02:05
dr_willisahmedipa:  if you are so tight on disk space you cant even update the system.. i have to wonder how you have enoiugh space to even do any real work02:05
blagI compiled my own bind, but apt/dpkg keeps trying to update it and failing. I have tried to pin it in Synaptic, but that is apparently not sticking. help?02:05
sirdotalusyour popular maybe you should change your handle from dr willis to dr nick02:05
dr_willisdr_of_Love02:05
dr_willis;)02:05
sirdotaluslawlz02:06
Tex_Nicklol02:06
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xanguafbdystang: if you have more than one plugin for flash installed none will work02:06
dr_willisBetter then Dr_of_Proctology02:06
ahmedipadr_willis:  thank you for this channel02:06
sirdotalusyet again i apologize for the floods of text, i was bieng logical but irrational02:06
BluesKajhopefully not Dr Strangelove :)02:06
fbdystangxangua: which one do I uninstall? From software center?02:06
dr_willisahmedipa:  yep.. i dont have a life. ;)  sirdotalus  that askubuntu.com site seems to have work arounds for what seems tobe a known bug02:06
sirdotalusmaybe dr of proctology love?02:06
xanguafbdystang: well if you want all flash features, remove gnash02:07
dr_willisWell i gotta head to the Store if we want foods tomorrow. bbl02:07
ahmedipadr_willis:  even I don't update , one day I found no space disk02:07
fbdystangxangua: ok trying it02:07
ahmedipadr_willis: any way thank you for help me02:07
ahmedipadr_willis: I was glad to talk to you02:07
sirdotalusthank you for your help you have my email02:08
BluesKajHad a great jam tonight ...best in a while, was very cool02:08
sirdotalusi would like to continue to converse with you so feel free to drop me a line. i am studying unix programming so i could use some more experienced users to chat with02:09
xanguagive emal and await for replies from irc...that's how it works XD02:09
Tex_Nickdr_willis ... dr_of_proc ... is deep ờᴗớ02:09
MonkeyDust BluesKaj i'm into the bluezzz, like jams etc02:09
* intelikey tips hat @ dr_willis 02:09
sirdotalusenjoy your morning food dr of proctology strangelove02:09
min|dvir|usHi, having trouble getting my script to start automatically on reboot. https://gist.github.com/dan-transparensee/a0d3ded0f2b655a1257d02:09
min|dvir|us*upstart02:09
ahmedipaI found #ubuntu best channel . It is more active than other02:10
fbdystangxangua: removed gnash but this movie still doesn't play. What am I doing wrong? http://www.break.com/index/the-most-brutal-soccer-foul-you-ll-ever-see-241307602:10
sirdotalusits the core channel for everything ubuntu02:10
fbdystangdo I need to restart?02:10
BluesKajMonkeyDust, we play kinds of different stuff , blues is our base , but guys drop over so just go with whatever ppl come up with , including country and classic rock02:11
MonkeyDustBluesKaj  damn ocean between continents ;-)02:11
Tex_Nickfbdystang:  try logging out then back in02:12
fbdystangTex_Nick: OK brb02:12
BluesKajlooking for a decent easy open source recording app , audacity doesn't cut it , unfortunately02:12
MonkeyDustBluesKaj  can I pm you?02:14
xanguafbdystang: did you restart your browser¿ did you install any other plugin¿02:14
heywoodi had passwordless ssh set up and working on my (remote) server. yesterday i did an apt-get dist-upgrade, after which i got a "reboot required". when the machine came back up, ssh now no longer works. any suggestions on how to troubleshoot?02:15
fbdystangTex_Nick: xangua: after logging out and back in I still get a black screen where the movie should be02:15
BluesKajMonkeyDust, sure02:15
fbdystangxangua: I logged out then back in, which I assume restarts the browser right? I did not install any other plugin. the latest update made it break02:16
Tex_Nickfbdystang:  what type of video are you trying to play & from desktop or browser ?02:16
fbdystangTex_Nick: Firefox browser http://www.break.com/index/the-most-brutal-soccer-foul-you-ll-ever-see-241307602:17
KrisBhey, i just changed /etc/ permissions with "chmod -R to 700"... by experimenting... sudo can't find sudoers now... how to fix it (one terminal window still runs as root...)02:17
xanguafbdystang: and what plugins are listed in tool-addons¿02:18
fbdystangxangua: let me check02:18
xanguaKrisB: that sounds like a full reinstall needed :) good luck02:19
fbdystangxangua: There are 8. I will list them02:19
magn3tsI'm in choice hell. I like KWin, I don't like Plasma. I like Qt but I don't like the KDE services. I like Oxygen but I don't like the fact the kio is nowhere near as good as gvfs02:20
min|dvir|usWhy is my upstart script not running on reboot? https://gist.github.com/dan-transparensee/a0d3ded0f2b655a1257d02:20
magn3tsCan't we have a standard set of subsystems that gnome/kde/razor/cinnamon layer on top of that are more loosely coupled? :(02:20
fbdystangxangua: Divx web player, google talk, google talk accelerator, iced-tea web plugin, itunes application director, quicktime, vlc, windows media player02:21
Tex_Nickfbdystang:  ok that vid played on my firefox ... it took about 45 seconds to load though02:21
xanguafbdystang: so you don't have adobe flashplayer installed now¿02:21
fbdystangxangua: it shows as installed in software center, but doesn't appear in firefox addons02:22
fbdystangIs it supposed to?02:22
unheedingfbdystang: wait is this firefox on wine?02:22
dONALDHi people!02:22
fbdystangunheeding: no02:22
KrisBxangua: I just run chmod -R a+rx /etc/sudoers.d; chmod -R u+w /etc/sudoers.d; 0440 /etc/sudoers.d/README; not sudoers permission is fixed. what is the default /etc/ permissions?02:22
unheedingwindows media player?02:22
dONALDI'm using xubuntu. Is there a command to reconnect my net after a brake?02:23
fbdystangunheeding: it has that plugin, not sure why02:23
spacecase I'm having trouble with my BCM4331 card getting dropped from the network, can anyone help?02:23
ahmedipaquestion02:24
ahmedipahow can I upload image in this chat02:24
friedgdhcpcd should ask the hcp server for another ip02:24
friedgdhcp server02:24
fbdystangxangua: is it supposed to be installed in both places? Tex_Nick?02:24
ahmedipais there particular upload image or any site I can use02:25
fbdystangTex_Nick: what firefox version are you running? And what plugins do you have installed?02:26
Tex_Nickfbdystang:  i'm confused as to why you would have windows media player as a plug-in02:26
ahmedipasorry for asking too much questions02:27
Tex_Nickyou are running ubuntu, right ?02:27
nyRednekmy sound quit working after i was forced to wipe my home dir02:27
fbdystangTex_Nick: do I need to remove it? I assumed it shipped with it02:27
nyRednekanyone know how to get it working again?02:27
BluesKajTex_Nick, no just windows media codec, probly file extension called wma plugin02:27
xanguafbdystang: on both¿ ubuntu does not shipt with adoble flashplugin02:28
unheedingnyRednek: what does system settings -> sound   show?02:28
nibbler__fbdystang: what is update-alternatives telling you now? just paste the output of the line i gave you before02:28
Tex_Nickfbdystang:  ok in firefox plugins search ... type flash and install it02:29
dONALDI'm searching for something like an auto-, or manual "reconnect" command.02:29
nyRednekundert, i'm on xfce, don't have that particular option02:29
fbdystangnibbler__ can you repost the command, I can't scroll up02:29
fbdystangTex_Nick: ok in process02:29
nibbler__fbdystang: update-alternatives --list mozilla-flashplugin02:30
unheedingnyRednek: does a "ps aux | grep pulseaudio02:30
dONALDI can do it manually through the indicator in the tray02:30
Tex_NickBluesKaj:  ok thanks ... had  my head spinng for a second ;)02:30
unheedingin terminal show pulseaudio running?02:30
fbdystangxangua: do you mean that it should be installed on both! or both? as a question?02:30
nibbler_re02:31
fbdystangTex_Nick: There are 8 "flash"es that come up. none say adobe. what gives?02:32
nyRednekunheeding, it appears to be running02:32
Tex_Nickfbdystang:  do you see shockwave flash02:33
fbdystangupdate-alternatives: warning: alternative /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so (part of link group mozilla-flashplugin) doesn't exist. Removing from list of alternatives.02:33
fbdystangnibbler: ^02:33
nibbler_fbdystang: ok, you need to set it to the flash plugin, thats why its not working.. let me figure the command, one second02:33
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fbdystangTex_Nick: nope02:33
nyRednekunheeding, and if i try start-pulseaudio-x11, i get connection refused02:34
DeadWeaselnyRednek: add sudo before that?02:34
fbdystangnibbler__ OK02:34
Tex_Nickfbdystang:  i think nibbler_ is going in the right direction02:34
unheedingnyRednek: hmm, you should just be able to type "pulseaudio" and it should start02:34
nyRednekunheeding, it seems to be running, btw, but it isn't allowing a volume manager to do anything02:35
nyRednekunheeding, going to try to kill it and see if the restart helps02:35
nibbler_fbdystang: update-alternatives --config mozilla-flashplugin02:35
fbdystangnibbler: in process02:36
Tex_Nickfbdystang:  looks like it will be in firefox preferences/applications02:36
nyRednekunheeding, and it appears to have worked02:36
fbdystangupdate-alternatives: warning: alternative /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so (part of link group mozilla-flashplugin) doesn't exist. Removing from list of alternatives.02:36
fbdystangupdate-alternatives: warning: /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin is dangling, it will be updated with best choice.02:36
fbdystangThere is no program which provides mozilla-flashplugin.02:36
fbdystangNothing to configure.02:36
fbdystangupdate-alternatives: error: unable to remove '/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so': Permission denied02:36
fbdystangnibbler_: ^02:37
fbdystangdo I need sudo?02:37
BluesKajfbdystang, sudo, yes02:38
fbdystangok let me try again :)02:38
xanguanibbler_: didn't you mean adobe-flashplugin ¿02:38
fbdystangupdate-alternatives: warning: alternative /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so (part of link group mozilla-flashplugin) doesn't exist. Removing from list of alternatives.02:39
fbdystangupdate-alternatives: warning: /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin is dangling, it will be updated with best choice.02:39
fbdystangThere is no program which provides mozilla-flashplugin.02:39
fbdystangNothing to configure.02:39
fbdystangnibbler_: ^02:39
nibbler_fbdystang: you need to install the proprietary plugin02:40
fbdystangnibbler_: cool, how?02:40
nibbler_fbdystang: sorry, i just overflew the conversation before, thought you have it... one moment02:40
nibbler_fbdystang: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer02:40
BluesKajfbdystang,, install ubuntu-restricted-extras02:41
fbdystangwhich one? both?02:41
nibbler_fbdystang: the one i gave you will install the proprietary flash player. firefox restart required afterwards02:41
BluesKaj!ubuntu-restricted-extras02:42
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:42
BluesKajfbdystang,^02:42
fbdystangok, let me try02:42
fbdystangnibbler_: install: missing destination file operand after `ubuntu-restricted-extras'02:44
fbdystangTry `install --help' for more information.02:44
fbdystangnibbler_: it says flashplugin is already newest version02:45
fbdystangBlueskaj: sorry I typed to wrong person above. but you can see the error I got02:46
BluesKajfbdystang, open software center and enable the  canonical partners repository and 3rd party repos as well02:46
fbdystangBluesKaj: OK in process02:46
nibbler_fbdystang: dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-installer02:46
nibbler_fbdystang: BluesKaj is following another path, so go one first.. ;-)02:47
fbdystangBluesKaj: all repositories were enabled (checked)02:47
BluesKajnibbler_, jusat making sure the repos that contain the packages he needs are available02:48
fbdystangnibbler_: in process02:48
min|dvir|usHi, why is my upstart script not running on reboot? https://gist.github.com/dan-transparensee/a0d3ded0f2b655a1257d02:48
fbdystangnibbler_: OK I added sudo. it brough up a window in the terminal asking for the location of the .tar.gz file. Where is that?02:49
LEYONproductsuk.    info cheap ultrabook02:51
whoeveris there a file that can be edited to give my bluetoothe devices more meaningfull names that BH22002:52
kevinchhi all, i have 0 bytes free on my ubuntu server and even when i delete some files it still says 0B free in df.  Any ideas?  It's a 30gb boot drive and then I have a couple 2 TB drives mounted to various folders.  The boot drive is out of room02:53
brokdshi all. Need some help applying grub to my raid 1. i got my listed partions here. just need to know how to apply it. http://pastebin.com/tf2U4Y2302:53
fbdystangnibbler_: BluesKaj: did we hit a dead end?02:53
kvvHi all, I installed an udpate in 12.04 and now I am not able to use unity3d.02:54
kvvthe display just freezes seconds after I log in02:54
kvvIt's not affecting unity 2d though.02:54
kvvI want to file a bug, but was just wondering if anyone else saw this.02:55
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BluesKajfbdystang, first of all , check /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins02:55
fbdystangBluesKaj: ok in process02:55
whoeverkevinch: df -h /path/toDFOn02:55
kevinchwhats DFOn?02:56
kevinchwhoever02:56
fbdystanglibjavaplugin.so                       libtotem-cone-plugin.so02:56
fbdystanglibnpgoogletalk.so                     libtotem-gmp-plugin.so02:56
fbdystanglibnpgtpo3dautoplugin.so               libtotem-mully-plugin.so02:56
fbdystanglibrhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so  libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so02:56
FloodBot1fbdystang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:56
chadhstest02:56
fbdystangBluesKaj: ^02:56
whoeverkevinch: the director you want to check usage on02:56
brokdsfbdystang, use pastebin02:56
kevinchoh okay02:56
BluesKajfbdystang, you should have an flash alternative plughin02:56
whoeverkevinch: ie: df -u /usrp02:57
whoever*/usr02:57
kevinchah okay02:57
kevinchthanks02:57
kevinchsee it says size 30G02:57
kevinchused 28G02:57
FloodBot1kevinch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:57
fbdystangbrokds: yea sorry man02:57
kevinchAvail 002:57
whoeverkevinch: what whee you using02:57
fbdystangBluesKaj: agreed, how do we get in on there?02:57
kevinchwhoever http://pastebin.com/hH3g7JrZ - just using df -h /02:58
whoeverkevinch: so you wern't using a directery earlier? or you were miss reading the output02:59
KyeRussellwhere the chats at02:59
nibbler_fbdystang: nah, its no dead end at all. from the beginning all you were missing is the proprietary flash plugin, and having it configured as default02:59
BluesKajfbdystang, alt+f2 , type , or copy and paste this,  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins02:59
kevinchwell everything keeps telling me 0 free03:00
kevinchso I'm assuming I'm out of space03:00
nibbler_fbdystang: i'm a bit confused that it wants a tar.gz from you now...03:00
KyeRussellyes hello xt0rt03:00
xt0rtgreetings friend03:00
whoeverkevinch: posible, what do you have on there03:00
KyeRusselldo you enjoy these premium ubuntu chats03:00
nibbler_fbdystang: its just asking you where to find the tar.gz, if you leave this empty it will be downloaded, which is basically written there if you read closely :p03:00
kevinchnot much at all really, all my media and backups are mounted on my external drives03:01
xt0rtI am having problems compiling the NetBeans binary actually.03:01
KyeRussellsame man03:01
brokds!grub03:01
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)03:01
whoeverkevinch: are you getting an I/O error when you try to run a commad03:01
KyeRussellim trying to compile hal.dll and it just aint working, i got the tarball and everything03:01
xt0rtI downloaded the binary but it will not compile.03:01
fbdystangnibbler_: yea that confuses me as well. I left it empty and it didnt do anything, just came back to the command prompt03:01
kevinchwhoever no I'm not03:01
fbdystangnibbler_: maybe i need to login again and try?03:02
xt0rtpeople tell me you cant compile a binary but I say they are full of SHIT03:02
nibbler_fbdystang: nope...03:02
KyeRusselli can confirm this xt0rt they're just free software haters03:02
xangua!language | xt0rt03:02
ubottuxt0rt: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.03:02
KyeRusselldont listen to them03:02
KyeRussellhackers you'll be free03:02
xt0rtI JUST GOT FLAGGED FOR BEING A HACKER03:02
KyeRussellanthrax grenades03:02
whoeverkevinch: run du on / and it will spit out files folders and there size03:03
xt0rtapparently the operators of this irc channel enjoy CENSORSHIP03:03
kevinchokay03:03
KyeRussellyes xt0rt its free as in beer, but also free as in north korea03:03
KyeRussellmight as well redirect it to #pyongyang03:03
xt0rtops: did you not know that the USA has a BLACK PRESIDENT03:04
xt0rtGET WITH THE PROGRAM03:04
KyeRussellim sorry, i thought this was america03:04
fbdystangBluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/1saGAdri03:04
KyeRussellanything is possible at zombocom03:04
xt0rtnothing but racist free speech haters in this chat03:04
xangua!ops | xt0rt KyeRussell03:04
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nibbler_fbdystang: http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.261.orig.tar.gz <-- download this to /tmp, and point to this file when asked for it?03:04
xt0rtyou all make me SICK03:05
KyeRussellhighlight abuse03:05
fbdystangnibbler_: ok in process03:05
xt0rtWTF WAS THAT03:05
BluesKajxt0rt, no just common courtesy03:05
xt0rtOH GOD MY CAPSLOCK KEY IS STUCK03:05
xt0rtWHAT DO I DO03:05
KyeRussellrecompile xorg03:05
kevinchwhoever: when I run du --max-depth=1 it gets part way through it but then it gets stuck on /root i think03:05
kevinchI'm running it on /03:05
xt0rtDAMN LINUX KEYBOARD03:05
fbdystangnibbler_: 404 not found03:06
nibbler_fbdystang: i just downloaded it....03:06
Tex_Nickxt0rt : turn your keyboard upsidedown and tap it on the desktop ... of your physicak desk that is :)03:06
BluesKajfbdystang, if you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed then you should have the flash plugin installed , if not then I'm confused.03:06
nibbler_fbdystang: strange... well, as i just downloaded it, i'll dump it for you somewhere03:07
nibbler_fbdystang: http://drop.geekbox.info/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.261.orig.tar.gz03:07
whoeverkevinch:  make that du -h  /direcory and that will give you a list of files and dirs ,03:07
fbdystangnibbler_: BluesKaj: I am as confused as both of you. I tried that link twice, different copy/paste. Maybe i need flash to download it :(03:07
xt0rtwhy was I removed from the polite conversation area03:08
whoeverkepler: sudo du then03:08
Flannelxt0rt: Save us both time and kindly stop, thanks.03:08
fbdystangnibbler_: ok downloading03:08
xt0rtwhat did I do btw I fixed my keyboard03:08
PlatzDo i need to modify the group of /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/uevent (currently root) so it's accessible from my status bar? (using i3status in i3wm)03:09
* whoever bitch smacks xt0rt for suck a juvinial trool attemp 03:09
xt0rtPlatz: yes03:09
Flannelwhoever: seriously?03:09
KyeRussellthat's bad language whoever03:10
KyeRussell!language | whoever03:10
ubottuwhoever: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.03:10
BluesKajhome, ,mdon't feed the trolls03:10
Platzi'll try that03:10
KyeRussellill report you to RMS03:10
BluesKajwhoever, ^03:10
whoeverFlannel: i couldn't resist "my caps are stuck on what do i do ", and  I hope that was retorical03:10
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xt0rthttp://youtu.be/vSUW-Z_Cnc003:11
whoeverubottu: sorry didn't realize the lang rules here03:11
ubottuwhoever: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:11
nyRednekok, it has worked03:11
xt0rt!language | whoever03:11
ubottuwhoever: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.03:11
xt0rtty03:12
whoeverubottu: thaught you whre but also am sure someone is controlling u03:12
ubottuwhoever: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:12
xt0rtfamily chats up in here03:12
xt0rtok in leaving03:12
xt0rtty for chats03:12
Tex_Nickxt0rt ... chill out ... you're going to get banned it you keep it up03:12
nibbler_fbdystang: is it working?03:14
fbdystangnibbler_: no, I must be typing the path wrong03:15
kevinchis /lib being 1.4gb normal??03:16
BluesKajfbdystang, , just typing the path is only to check whether or not you have the flash plugin03:16
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fbdystangnibbler_: BluesKaj: /home/theman/Downloads/ is what I keep trying but it won't take03:17
Tex_Nicknibbler_ & fbdystang : just a thought ... would it be easier to just reinstall firefox ... would probably need to backup bookmarks and maybe even cookies ... does firefox reinstall with flash ready to go03:18
fbdystangnibbler_: BluesKaj: this is the msg I get: http://pastebin.com/jda9LGm403:18
xanguaTex_Nick: it does not and it will solve anything03:18
BluesKajfbdystang, nm , we're at cross purposes here . I'll back off , didn't realize you were installing it manually03:19
fbdystangBluesKaj: Ok03:20
BluesKajtoo many cooks03:20
fbdystangwhat is the path supposed to look like? do I need to remove one of the "/" ?03:20
Tex_Nickxangua : havent looked at the thread in a bit ... i know flash can be a devil ... just never had that much trouble with it though03:21
whoeverkepler: depends what in there03:21
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whoeverkepler: my /lib is only 705M03:22
fbdystang/home/theman/Downloads/  is that right?03:22
whoeverkevinsky: no depends what you got in there , mine is only 705M03:23
aarobcYou know, I think that explaining the problem in detail is the best way to resolve a problem. I came here for some help mounting a windows share, was writing up my problems, when I realized there was another thing that I hadn't tried. Tried it, and it resolved the problem.03:24
fbdystangnibbler_: Maybe the the filename is different than what it is looking for?03:25
fbdystangdifferent version of the file?03:25
histofbdystang: What are you installing?03:28
Wugto whom do I report testdisk bugs? because I found one03:28
fbdystanghisto: trying to get adobe flash plugin installed, but it won't take03:28
histoWug: man testdisk at the bottom you may find the author.03:28
histoWug: Or you can check out their site.03:28
histofbdystang: Anyreason you are installing the flashplugin-installer package from the repos?03:29
jab416171I have an ubuntu server with 2 NTFS drives attached, plus the main drive. How can I share those drives with my Windows desktop? NFS? Samba? What's best?03:29
histofbdystang: but basically you download the plugin un gzip it and place in your plugins directory.03:29
fbdystanghisto: just following advice from people here03:29
Wugthere's a scenario where a damaged filesystem can fool testdisk into an uninterruptible looping copy03:29
histo!best | jab41617103:29
ubottujab416171: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.03:29
fbdystanghisto; ok let me try that03:30
whoeverjab416171: samba03:30
jab416171histo: will both work with both a Windows client and NTFS drives?03:30
jab416171whoever: why?03:30
whoeverjab416171: yes -03:30
Gavilan3My ubuntu is kind of frozen (the clock still works)03:30
Gavilan3what can I do?03:30
histojab416171: Yes03:30
histojab416171: the fact that the drives are ntfs doesn't matter.03:30
whoeverjab416171: because samba is for sharing betwing LAN nodes and it will work by setting permissions03:31
histoGavilan3: ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a tty and sudo restart lightdm03:31
jab416171are they both just as easy to set up on the Windows side? Just "Add a shared drive"?03:32
histojab416171: What version of windows?03:32
jab416171703:32
whoeverjab416171: if its your first time doing it, then no,03:32
fbdystanghisto: I get a folder when extracting. do I put the entire folder in the plugin directory, or just one file?03:32
Wugim full of problems today aren't I03:32
histofbdystang: What are you extracting?03:33
whoeverjab416171: if you need help with setting up samba you should go to #samba03:33
jab416171whoever: then which one is easier on the windows side?03:33
Gavilan3histo: I went there and it says: SYSTEM RESTART REQUIRED... what does that mean?03:33
histoWug: I remember you from yesterday, So I take it testdisk wasn't able to repair the partitoin table?03:33
Gavilan3why would it say that?03:33
Wugthe next one is that for some reason, on ubuntu 12.04 with default settings, attempting to login crashes X, which brings me back to the login screen03:33
histoGavilan3: You installed updates that won't be active until you restart03:33
Wughisto: its going, but its a slow process and I had to stop to sleep03:33
histoGavilan3: After restarting lightdm it should take you back to a GUI if not ctrl+alt+F7 will take you there.03:34
meltylol03:34
fbdystanghisto: drop.geekbox.info/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.261.orig.tar.gz03:34
Gavilan3how do I restart lightdm?03:34
Wugtestdisk did hang due to aforementioned bug while copying files off, but they were in the recycling bin so I dont care03:34
histoGavilan3: sudo restart lightdm03:34
BluesKajfbdystang, the file looks something like libfashplayer.so , may not be exactly that but there should only be one  .so file03:34
Wugill just skip that folder03:34
whoeverjab416171: it depends what are you tring to atchieve , just share them to anyone that wants them without security or do you need security03:34
Gavilan3and what is this lightdm thing?03:35
fbdystangBluesKaj: found it, buried in the folders. do I replace my old one with it?03:35
histojab416171: samba will just work on the windows side. NFS will work if you have nfs support enabled in windows, which most people don't by default so that would require some tinkering.03:35
whoeverjab416171: and now that i thing about it even connecting to the shares if thery where on windows from ubuntu , though the gui, you are still using samba03:35
User_SanHello, i need help. I can't login on Ubuntu (except by Guest). Everytime i type the right password, lightdm restarts, not loggin in...03:35
jab416171ok thanks, that's what I was looking for03:35
histoGavilan3: lightdm is the display manager that starts unity after you login etc..03:35
User_SanPlease, help03:35
WugUser_San: mine does the same thing03:36
Gavilan3ok03:36
Gavilan3thanks03:36
WugI believe it to be graphics driver related03:36
picarooUser_San: do you know the root password?03:36
histopicaroo: there is no root password03:36
User_Sanpicaroo: yes03:36
WugI'm probably going to reinstall the entire graphics system when I get around to it03:36
BluesKajwhich old one , fbdystang , i didn't see a flash...so file in any of your posts03:36
histoUser_San: What were you doing when this happened?03:36
User_Sanpicaroo: sudo03:36
h00k!root | picaroo03:36
ubottupicaroo: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo03:36
picarooUser_San: log in as root, and try changing your password03:36
histofbdystang: Again is there a reason you aren't using flash from the repos?03:36
whoeverjab416171: go to #samba, and i'll walk/guide you03:37
histofbdystang: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer  will install flash for you in the proper place03:37
User_Sanhisto: i have no clue... i was just using it normally... so i turn it off... on the next turn on it got this error...03:37
Gavilan3histo: Thanks!03:37
histopicaroo: Please don't suggest people do that.03:37
histopicaroo: The root account is disabled by default in ubuntu and does not need to be enabled.03:37
User_Sanpicaroo: i log in on tty1, not a password problem :)03:37
Wugthe ubuntu way is the sudo way03:37
histoUser_San: What were you doing when this happened?03:38
User_Sanhisto: i have no clue... i was just using it normally... so i turn it off... on the next turn on it got this error...03:38
WugUser_San: did you install upgrades before you turned it off03:38
Wug(I'm pretty sure mine was triggered by upgrading to 12.04)03:38
User_Sanmaybe03:38
histoUser_San: So mostlikely there is an error with something in your users settings.03:39
Wugit worked before that, and suddenly didnt03:39
BluesKajhisto, the flash plugin shouid be installed with the restricted -extras , if he has it03:39
WugI had to reinstall my graphics drivers, and they still dont seem quite right03:39
User_SanWug:  i am on 12.10... i didn't had this problem yesterday03:39
histoWug: What type of graphics card?03:39
WugUser_San: did you upgrade to 12.10 a while ago and not restart?03:39
Wughisto: 797003:39
User_SanWug:  histo , still, i may have upgraded03:39
Wugit worked fine last release03:39
Wugthen i upgraded and it borked03:39
User_SanWug: no, it's an (old) fresh 12.10 install03:40
Wugit sort of works though, I can sudo startx from a tty and that gives me a root desktop environment03:40
Wuglightdm just silently fails to login though03:40
histoUser_San: You'd most likely have to plug around in your ~ and look at what is running on startup for your user.03:40
User_Sanhisto: as I said, i may have upgraded, but i just remember upgrading google-chrome03:40
User_Sanhisto: how do i do that?03:41
fbdystangBluesKaj: histo: and all others. Manually putting that .so file into the the plugins directory worked!! I can now see that video :) Thanks y'all03:41
User_Sanhisto: i mean, where is the file03:41
histoUser_San: Let me poke around and see what I find it.03:42
BluesKajfbdystang, glad to hear that :)03:42
histofbdystang: That's all the other installers do that's what I was telling you. It's not a complicated process03:42
User_Sanhisto: i tried to create a new user: it had the same problem03:42
User_Sanhisto: the only thing that works is guest user03:43
fbdystanghisto: right, i completely understand. the problem for the last 45 mins on this chat room was than NONE of the automated processes were working03:43
fbdystangand we tried a few03:43
WugUser_San: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?03:43
histoUser_San: right because the guest user doesn't have the same config as you. You could create a new user and try to login to just to proove i'm right.03:43
Wughisto: he just mentioned that he tried that and was unsuccessful03:44
picarooUser_San: How do you know Lightdm is the problem?  Also, have you checked the lightdm log file for usefeul information?  It's probably located here: /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log03:44
Wugmy graphics driver and my card apparently dont agree03:44
fbdystangWug: I had the same problem yesterday with updates and fglrx03:45
User_Sanhisto: i just said: i created a new user: same problem03:45
histoUser_San: sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log | pastebinit03:45
histoUser_San: after you try and login ofcourse03:45
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histoUser_San: Then give us the url03:45
Wughisto: I looked in my log and everything seems ok until it tried to execute the session (/usr/sbin/lightdm-session gnome-session --session=ubuntu) at which point the session seems to quit immediately03:47
Wugis there a log file for lightdm-session03:47
Wugthe lightdm log doesn't seem to show anything unusual, except that the session lasts .01 seconds03:47
histoWug: there are other logs in /var/log/lightdm03:48
User_Sanhisto: 163189903:48
User_Sanhisto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/163189903:49
Wugim running everything as root right now :|03:49
Wugincluding xchat and chromium :|03:49
WugUser_San: your problem and mine appear to be somewhat different03:51
User_Sanhisto: after +18:32... i got one wrong password message03:51
User_SanWug: it seems so03:51
histoUser_San: It appears that PAM is erroring03:51
User_Sanhisto: what is PAM?03:52
gueriLLaPunK im trying to open /root with "sudo cd /root" and it askes for my pw, when i enter it says "cd: command not found"03:52
histoUser_San: Your user is failing to authenticate. Can you login as leonardo in tty?03:53
User_Sanhisto: as i said03:53
histok hold up03:53
User_Sanhisto: i typed my password wrong onve03:53
User_Sanhisto: look only after 18:3203:53
marzI installed Ubuntu 12.10, I created another logical partition for the root.and 1 for the swap area. After installation, my compputer boots in Windows automatically, it does not give me the option which OS to boot from03:53
gueriLLaPunKbrb, gonna switch from SSH tunnel to my own connection!03:53
loudaslifeI'm on Xubuntu 12.10, ubuntu software center only stays open for a second before closing. http://pastie.org/6107593 Any help?03:54
gueriLLaPunKok im back.03:55
User_Sanhisto, it seems (line 53) that after i authenthicate , greeter goes down03:55
marz I installed Ubuntu 12.10, I created another logical partition for the root.and 1 for the swap area. After installation, my compputer boots in Windows03:55
gueriLLaPunKim trying to open /root with "sudo cd /root" and it askes for my pw, when i enter it says "cd: command not found"03:56
histoUser_San: I'm reading through some bug reports now.03:56
fbdystangwhat is /root?03:56
fbdystanguse cd ..03:56
fbdystanguse "cd .."03:57
marzHelp . . . I installed Ubuntu 12.10, I created another logical partition for the root.and 1 for the swap area. After installation, my compputer boots in Windows03:57
Tex_Nickhow do i, as an example - from terminal do gksu gedit ... and have it not keep the terminal open ... seems like i sued to do that03:57
User_Sanhisto: thanks, please look this one: 94478403:57
marz I installed Ubuntu 12.10, I created another logical partition for the root.and 1 for the swap area. After installation, my compputer boots in Windows automatically. It does not give me the option to select what OS to boot03:57
histoUser_San: try mv ~/.config03:58
histoUser_San: Sorry try mv ~/.config ~/.config.bak    Then try to login03:58
fbdystangTex_Nick: sudo gedit &03:58
User_Sanhisto: already tried,03:58
User_Sanhisto:  also, tried a new user, and failed, remeber?03:58
fbdystangTex_Nick: then close terminal03:59
histoUser_San: Okay can you pastebin your .xession-errors03:59
loudaslifeCan anyone help with this software center error? http://pastie.org/610759303:59
histoUser_San: and pastebin your /etc/lightdm/ligthdm.conf also04:00
Tex_Nickfbdystang:  thanks man ;)04:00
marzCan anyone help me. I can't boot from my ubuntu OS. My computer automatically boots on Windows.04:00
fbdystangTex_Nick: np04:00
User_Sanhisto: 163193704:00
histoUser_San: What?04:01
User_Sanhisto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/163193704:01
Wugmarz: sounds like windows broke grub04:01
Wugit likes to pretend its the only one in the world04:01
User_Sanhisto: we mey have found the error's source04:02
fbdystangyou have to install windows first, then ubuntu. This allow ubuntu to add grub correctly04:02
histoUser_San: Okay who owns .Xauthority ?04:02
Wugmarz: take a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing04:02
marzthanks04:02
User_Sanhisto: leonardo04:03
histoUser_San: in your users home04:03
Wugfollow the installation instructions for reinstalling grub on a broken system04:03
histoUser_San: also why is it tryiing to load /root/.compiz/session......04:03
loudaslifeCan anyone help with this ubuntu software center error? http://pastie.org/610759304:03
User_Santhe .Xauthority belongs to the user...04:03
meltylol04:03
User_Sanhisto: i don't know why04:03
histothat's bizare04:04
User_Sanhisto: i don't know why is it tryiing to load /root/.compiz/session.04:04
histoUser_San: What error were you talking about I got side tracked.04:05
Tex_Nickfbdystang:  hey great to see you got your flash working ... you had some good help on that one ... you had the patience to work through it also :)04:05
User_Sanhisto: i think you are talking about this one  94478404:06
histoUser_San: Have you restarted and you are still experiencing the problem?04:06
fbdystangTex_Nick: yea, I have been doing this for years but that threw me for a loop. I "used" to trust the auto package installers :( Anyway, just paying it forward now04:06
User_Sanhisto:  several times04:06
WugUser_San: it would help us a lot if you added the rest of the pastebin link to those numbers04:06
User_SanWug: not a pastebin, an ubuntu error04:07
histoUser_San: What is 944784?04:07
User_Sanhisto an ubuntu error04:07
Tex_Nickfbdystang:  out of curosity ... did you ever determine why it would not install through the normal methods ?04:07
histoUser_San: Please pastebin your /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf04:08
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fbdystangTex_Nick: nope. but I would like to. mozillas plugin update checker mentioned that it needed to be updated. The problem I think is that I allowed all updating to happen automatically. Whatever got updated in the last few days broke a few things, this being one of them.04:09
User_Sanhisto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/163195804:10
histoUser_San: Also rm .xsession-error  and try to login then post the updated version.04:10
histoUser_San: Any luck with the updated .xsession-error ?04:12
loudaslifeCan anyone interpret this ubuntu software center error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631963/04:12
User_Sanhisto: no...04:13
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histoUser_San: no what?04:14
User_Sanhisto:  i tried to delete the old, but after several not-logins i still don't got a new file04:14
User_Sanhisto: (.xsession-error)04:15
Wughuh, thats creepy04:15
jose106I got several pictures with the wrong date. Is it possible to change the like a month backwards? I got about 150 pics04:15
histoUser_San: Okay so it's not writing errors therre then. Those were old errors04:15
User_Sanhumm04:15
User_Sanhisto: so what now?04:16
histoUser_San: Lets make a fresh lightdm.log and check04:16
KrisBHello, how to use memdisk?04:16
histoUser_San: sudo mv /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log.old && sudo touch /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log04:17
WugKrisB: you mean the ramdisk boot kernel thing?04:17
KrisBWug, Yea, I wanna additionally install another distribution of Linux.04:18
Wuglinux16 /path/to/memdisk [newline] initrd16 path/to/image.iso04:18
Wugit doesn't work quite like you'd expect it to however04:18
histoWug: What are you talking about?04:18
User_Sanhisto: pretty strange: no new logs again04:19
Wugany kernel that thinks its on a CD will continue to think its on a CD and will attempt to open the CD device to read stuff04:19
User_Sani will reboot,04:19
Wugsince there is no CD device, this will fail04:19
User_Sanhisto: ill be right back04:19
histoUser_San: k04:19
Wugsome simple utilities will work though, like memchk04:19
Wugmemtest*04:19
histoKrisB: What are you trying to do?04:20
WugI was unable to get past the splash screens for either the ubuntu 12.10 CD or the GParted CD04:20
Free-Infohi04:20
histoWug: Doing what?04:20
KrisBhisto: install Debian. I don't have CD-ROM, my motherboard doesnt support USB booting etiher.04:20
Wughisto: memdisk is a utility that loads an ISO image into ram and attempts to boot to it04:20
histoWug: from within another os?04:21
Wugthe lines I gave earlier were grub commands04:21
Em_Help, I can't fix grub. I followed the steps in this lin: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/how-to-recover-grub2-linux.html. But when I enter the command "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/  /dev/sda5" it gives me an error message. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631979/04:21
Wugno, its a kernel04:21
histooh gotcha04:21
Wugi was playing with it last week so its fresh on my mind04:21
Free-Infohelp me please --- I've a done wrong use of "#mv" command. Example:04:21
Free-Info# Mv/home/USER/Downloads/piff.pdf /root/PDFs04:21
Free-Infothen the directory "/root/PDFs" has been changed to a plain text file.04:22
KrisBWug: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ which one is memdisk?04:22
Free-InfoI can undo the command? I can retrieve the directory?04:22
histoFree-Info: mv /root/PDFs /root/piff.pdf04:22
Wughisto: I think he means there was a /root/PDFs folder there before04:23
Free-InfoPDFs is a directory04:23
WugKrisB: if you're using ubuntu you can sudo apt-get grub-imageboot04:23
Wugwhich includes memdisk (I think it puts it in /boot/memdisk)04:24
WugFree-Info: is it really important04:24
histoohh04:24
histoFree-Info: Wsa there anything in PDFs directory before?04:24
KrisBWug: in that case, i only need to add the line for iso?04:24
Wugif its not, then you can probably just get the contents back by redownloading them or whatever04:25
Free-Infoyes, i have importants doc in the PDFs directory04:25
WugKrisB: there is a utility that grub-imageboot comes with that generates grub entries for isos in a certain folder04:25
Free-Info:)04:25
Wug/boot/images or something04:25
histoFree-Info: you had docuemtns in there prior to the move?04:26
Wugif you look in /etc/default/grub-imageboot.conf it has the directory and you can set it to wherever04:26
Free-InfoSU04:26
Free-Inforoot sys04:26
histo?04:26
Wugit has to be on the root partition, there's a bug if you put it on a different one (you should be able to fix said bug with a little bash expertise if you really want to)04:26
histoFree-Info: Did you have docuements in the /root/PDFs/ directory prior to your move?04:26
Wughisto: I think that was the implication, yeah04:27
Free-Infohisto: yes04:27
WugFree-Info: I know testdisk would be able to recover them04:27
User_Sanhisto: i got no new errors on X.. i have a strong feeling the error is on unity-greeter04:27
Wugboy do I know testdisk well right now04:27
Wugnot sure you should install it on the system since it might overwrite some of the data04:28
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histoFree-Info: What is the problem? piff.pdf should be in /root/PDFs04:28
WugFree-Info: do you have another operating system you can boot from04:28
Wugwindows would be good, there is a windows version of testdisk04:29
KrisBWug - I just installed grub-imageboot, and I do have the Debian .iso file. What should be the next step?04:29
histoUser_San: Yeah do you have new errors in lightdm.log?04:29
Free-InfoWug: yes, a Debian in USB pendrive04:29
WugKrisB: find the config file (which has the folder to stick the iso into), put it in there, and do sudo update-grub04:29
WugFree-Info: ok, write these instructions down so you can reboot immediately04:30
User_Sanhisto: yes some... but only when lightdm started, not on logins04:30
Free-Infohisto: cd: /pentest/PDFs: not is a directory.04:30
histoFree-Info: okay now i'm confused you were saying /root/PDFs now you are syaying /pentest/PDFs which is it?04:31
histoFree-Info: and what command did you issue?04:31
Free-Inforsrsrs04:32
User_San_histo: wait a sec04:32
User_San_histo: i will send the logs04:32
WugFree-Info: 1. boot into debian on the pendrive 2. install testdisk (its probably in a repository or on their website, ubuntu package is 'testdisk') 3. open testdisk as root with "testdisk <harddrive>" where <harddrive> is the device in /dev 4. analyze for partitions 5. pick whichever partition is the right one 6. Browse Files 7. copy the folder04:32
histoUser_San_: I'm at a loss as to what's going on. I would post on askubuntu04:32
KrisBWug - I didn't quite understand which config file to find.04:33
Free-Info# mv FILE.pdf /root/PDFs04:33
WugKrisB: /etc/defaults/grub-imageboot.conf04:33
blahHi everyone, I'm ssh'd into an ubuntu machine and I dont have vnc running on it yet. Is there a way to turn on the vncserver from the terminal?04:33
histoFree-Info: yeah that would put FILE.pdf in /root/PDFs directory04:33
Free-Infoand now /root/PDFs not is a directory. is a plain text file04:33
histoFree-Info: assuming /root/PDFs existed before the move.04:33
User_San_http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631991 http://paste.ubuntu.com/163199304:34
histoFree-Info: What distro are you using?04:34
Free-Infoubuntu 13.0404:34
Nach0zwait, there's a 13?04:34
histoUser_San_: I'm at a loss for any ideas04:35
histoNach0z: it's development version04:35
cfhowlett!ubuntu+104:35
ubottuRaring Ringtail is the codename for Ubuntu 13.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+104:35
histoFree-Info: if you mv somefile /to/some/path/that/exists   It will put somefile in that path04:35
User_San_histo: look, i have a strong feeling about unity-greeter04:35
User_San_histo: how do i get an older version from apt?04:35
WugUser_San_: you might try shotgun reinstalling huge swaths of packages until you eventually find one thats broken04:35
histoUser_San_: sounds like a possiblity. You could install gdm and use that instead of lightdm04:36
histoUser_San_: That's what i would od04:36
histoUser_San_: Just to make sure it's lightdm that's the issue04:36
WugI actually rather like recent unity04:36
KrisBWug - okay,  there is the link "IMAGES="/boot/images"" should I put iso in this folder?04:36
KrisBthe line*04:36
WugKrisB: yeah, or change the folder to something else on the same device04:36
histoThis channel has gotten so far offtopic04:37
Wugafter the isos are there, run sudo update-grub04:37
RustyShacklefordI installed ubuntu server with openbox. My fonts look odd04:38
RustyShacklefordusually fonts look so good on ubuntu04:38
RustyShacklefordwhat do I need to install/configure?04:38
Free-Infohisto: histo: thanks04:38
cfhowlettRustyShackleford, log out.  select a different de and login  h04:38
RustyShacklefordcfhowlett, for debugging, or because openbox sucks?04:39
cfhowlettRustyShackleford, debug04:39
KrisBWug - the folder doesnt exist (image folder in /boot  doesnt exist) so it's safe to create it on my own?04:39
Wugyep04:40
Wugsudo mkdir /boot/images04:40
histoFree-Info: For?04:40
histoFree-Info: Did you solve your problem somehow?04:40
Wugfor trying maybe?04:41
RustyShacklefordcfhowlett, well it's in a VM04:41
histo!who | Wug04:41
ubottuWug: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)04:41
RustyShacklefordi'd prefer not to install another desktop04:41
histoRustyShackleford: did you install any other fonts?04:41
histoRustyShackleford: and can you possibly paste a screenshot so we can see what you are talking about.04:42
histo!paste | RustyShackleford04:42
ubottuRustyShackleford: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.04:42
Wughisto: I think you figured it out ok.  I do deal with people not used to IRC a lot, I know when dinging is necessary04:43
RustyShacklefordI think I just need to apply some antialiasing/font rendering/whatever settings04:43
Wugok so I have this idea04:44
histoWug: What?04:44
WugI'm going to author a setup that includes almost nothing but qemu and autoconfigs to pick an ISO from some folder somewhere, boot the ISO with qemu, and pass all storage devices to the VM04:45
Wugit will be almost as good as booting from any ISO without any extra hardware04:46
RustyShacklefordhttp://i.imgur.com/dK1rUC0.png04:47
RustyShacklefordI feel like it looks better in the picture than in my VM04:47
RustyShackleforddon't the font's look kinda thin though. Look at the semicolons or m's04:47
histoRustyShackleford: thin compaired to what?04:48
RustyShacklefordwhat ubuntu mono usually looks like04:48
histoRustyShackleford: What font are you using?04:48
RustyShacklefordubuntu mono 1204:48
Wugjava likes to disregard local themes and arbitrarily be a dick and use its own04:48
histoRustyShackleford: use lxappareance to configure anitalising04:49
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blahHey guys, some help here? I'm ssh'ing into an ubuntu machine and I dont have vnc running on it yet. Is there a way to turn on the vncserver from the terminal?04:53
RustyShacklefordhisto, after hitting apply, no .gtkrc-2.0 file was written04:53
RustyShacklefordwhere does it make changes?04:53
jam3smis there a ubuntu rom for galaxy nexus available to test or do i have to wait till later04:54
RustyShacklefordi was launched lxappearance from the terminal. As I clicked "Apply", This printed on the console "(lxappearance:2519): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_key_file_set_string: assertion `string != NULL' failed04:54
RustyShackleford"04:54
cfhowlett!phone|jam3sm04:54
ubottujam3sm: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone04:54
loudaslifeCan anyone help with this software center error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631963/05:04
makarabest mp3 mass tagging software?05:04
dsnydersHow do I stop my machine from going to sleep when transmission is running?05:05
aeon-ltdmakara: no best, use what ever you need and like05:06
mysteriousdarrendsyders: go to power manager, and change your settings05:06
aeon-ltddsnyders: i don't know if you automate that kind of condition, but you could make a script that turns sleep off and launches transmission05:06
loudaslifeAny help with this software center error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631963/05:11
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stroodlepuphi05:14
stroodlepupis there a way for me to tweak unity's memory usage?05:14
Tex_Nickdsnyders : preferences/desktop/inhihib hybernation when torrents are active05:15
pranavguys where can i buy ubuntu smartphone in india ?05:16
histo!phone|pranav05:17
ubottupranav: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone05:17
histostroodlepup: Not really.05:17
clouder`ghow do I set dpi?05:17
pranavno, i need to buy 1. it hasn't been released right ?05:18
Tex_Nickpranav : order it online ... https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_8gb&feature=device-featured#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDIwMiwibnVsbC13ZWJfaG9tZV81MDAwMDA1X25leHVzVVNfZGV2aWNlc19VU19fNTAwMDAwNV9uZXh1c1VTXzFfcHJvbW9fMTM2MDE4MjA4NTA1OCJd05:18
pranavTex_Nick: says: is not available in your country yet. We're working to bring devices to more countries as quickly as possible. Please check back again soon.05:19
makaraok, i see software center is best for 'what best software' type of questions05:21
histoclouder`g: Give me a second to rack my brain or look through my bash history.05:21
Tex_Nickpranav : well that's no fun ... wait & wish i guess :(05:21
clouder`ghisto, np, thanks05:21
pranavTex_Nick: what about a nexus..05:21
wiggmpkclouder`g: do you use Unity or Gnome 3?05:23
clouder`gunity I believe, that's the default on 12.04 right?05:23
wiggmpkclouder`g: yeah, have you looked in system settings > universal access?05:24
wiggmpkclouder`g: you can adjust the text size there05:24
histoclouder`g: http://ask.debian.net/questions/how-to-set-the-dpi-of-the-display to do it on the fly05:24
loudaslifeCan anyone help with an ubuntu software center error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631963/05:26
Tex_Nickpranav : i live in the U.S. ... i buy a lot of hardware from www.newegg.com ... don't know if they ship over-seas ... they're a good company to deal with though05:26
Tex_Nickpranav:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=nexus+7&x=0&y=005:26
histo!phone | pranav05:26
ubottupranav: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone05:26
Tex_Nickhisto : pranav posted ...  says: is not available in your country yet. We're working to bring devices to more countries as quickly as possible. Please check back again soon.05:27
histoTex_Nick: He wants to run ubuntu on a nexsus. It's all offtopic for here.05:28
histoloudaslife: dpkg -l | grep libwebkit | pastebinit05:28
wiggmpkloudaslife: have you tried to reinstall libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 ?05:29
loudaslifehisto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632064/05:30
loudaslifewiggmpk: I will try that right now.05:30
pranavhisto: ubuntu on nexus.. wow :D05:30
histopranav: there are videos on youtube.05:30
pranavhisto: already into..05:31
tdlamhello folks05:31
BL-407Hello05:32
tdlamI'm having trouble with my panel in xubuntu05:32
histo!xubuntu | tdlam05:33
tdlamit is suddenly no longer at the top of the screen...it sits 3/4 the way down the screen and I see no option to move it05:33
ubottutdlam: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels05:33
tdlamoh sorry05:33
loudaslifewiggmpk: That didn't seem to make any difference.05:34
KrisBhello.05:34
wiggmpkloudaslife: what was the last thing you installed before you noticed the problem?05:34
loudaslifewiggmpk: If you mean with apt-get, it was something I used for conky. It might have been fancontroll.05:35
wiggmpkloudaslife: you could try removing the software center cache, but if that doesnt work (and it probably wont) you'll have to get someone more knowledgeable to help out =(05:36
loudaslifewiggmpk: Will try, thank you for the help!05:36
wiggmpkloudaslife: rm -r .cache/software-center should do it05:37
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unheedingis ubuntu a religion05:43
aeon-ltdunheeding: no/yes05:44
loudaslifeunheeding: No, it's actually a cult.05:44
aeon-ltdunheeding: no you can't tax dodge by giving out ubuntu cds.05:45
mikedef62Sorry to bother, but I'm having an issue with my wireless card with Ubuntu 12.10 in regards to Broadcom Drivers. I've read quite a few google searches on the issue, but I can't get it to work automatically. Was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction on where to seek help?05:45
loudaslifeaeon-ltd: lamo05:45
unheedingheh05:46
yatrigawifi failed to connect05:48
yatrigain 12.04 LTS on dell inspiron05:49
yatrigapls help05:49
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dydzEz2does anyone here have a dual band router and have no internet lag issues?05:50
unheedingdid you try connecting it05:50
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histoyatriga: What is your wifi chipset? lspci  will show you.05:53
wiggmpkdydzEz2: I have a dual band router with no internet lag05:54
nascentmindHi. When there are small fonts my fonts do correct sub pixel rendering. What seems to be the issue?05:55
dydzEz2do both the bands on your router have different labels/names wiggmpk05:56
wiggmpkdydzEz2: yeah they have slightly different ESSID's, its probably not a good idea to keep them the same05:57
unheedingTheRainbowDawn: how is your day?  FABULOUS?05:57
TheRainbowDawnI hate Bigpond.05:57
dydzEz2god how do i remove $vt_handoff from  grub05:58
dydzEz2i can only see quit splash05:58
dydzEz2removing splash works05:58
dydzEz2but i rather see my splash screen05:58
pranavi use wlan from a TPLink router, but some webpages render half.. changed the MTU to 1492, still the same over all browser. not using any proxies in my system. with other routers, pages render all well.05:59
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asb_Hey, I have a macbook pro and I want to install Ubuntu onto it, I wanted to install it onto a SD card or flash drive because my HDD is relatively small, but I can't see any feasible way to do this.06:00
amiu?06:00
Wughisto: I figured I'd tell you I got all of the data back06:00
wiggmpkpranav: DSL service?06:01
amiuasb_,  ?06:01
Wugthe partition was intact and I copied all the files out using testdisk06:01
dydzEz2asb_ you can easily install ubuntu onto a usb stick06:01
Wugtestdisk takes forever to do anything so I decided not to bother going for the whole partition06:01
dydzEz2use unetbootin, even downloads the ISO for you06:01
jacou_Are there any Chinese people?06:01
pranavwiggmpk: yes, a broadband. it has a gateway IP, and dns. which we use to create a private LAN to distribute internet06:02
Wugjacou_: here? Maybe one or two but not that I know of.06:02
pranavwiggmpk: and you know, things go fine in my windows06:02
wiggmpkpranav: and its  PPPoE connection? only reason you would need an MTU of 1492 really06:02
asb_member:identifier:dydzez2 I can get the LiveCD of ubuntu and install it, but I want to setup a fully installed version of ubuntu, where I can download drivers and set preferences that stay06:03
wiggmpkpranav: you can try lower the MTU to 145406:04
wiggmpklowering*06:04
pranavwiggmpk: its a WAN gateway IP which gives us a login page in browser. which authenticates.06:04
pranavsure..06:04
wiggmpkor 1452, lemme check something quick06:05
pranavok06:05
ravurIn apache - How to setup authorization by file ACL while using client certificates authentication?06:05
wiggmpkpranav: 145206:05
Tex_Nickjacou_  : there are a lot of Chinese people in here at times ... the official channel for the Chinese language is #ubuntu-cn06:06
user__wechat06:07
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pranavwiggmpk: 149206:07
pranavok, 145206:07
pranavwait06:08
wiggmpkpranav: kk06:08
amiuhow do you type alt chars in linux ( eg; Alt + 5547)06:09
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malimbaramiu: you got a few different ways06:12
malimbarctrl + shift should work06:12
amiudoesnt do anything06:12
amiumakes the cursor stop blinking for 2 seconds after releasing the buttons n thats about it06:13
malimbarhmm, let me look it up real quick06:14
malimbarbeen a while06:14
malimbarthe way I do it is by using a composekey06:16
wiggmpkamiu: Ctrl + Shift + U (let go of U but keep holding Ctrl + Shift) and type your code06:16
malimbarwiggmpk: oh nice! learned smoethign new today06:17
amiu啇 wow. thats superfast and easy. yup every noob is gonna remember that the first time06:17
wiggmpkmalimbar: me 2 lol i just google faster I guess06:17
malimbarwoo!06:17
malimbar06:18
vlyalcinhii to all, how can i access my  connected galaxy s3 phone files on ubuntu 12.04?06:18
josh___Hi, I have a quick question, how much space does ubuntu server 12.10 take up?06:20
josh___Hello?06:22
DaemonicApathyvlyalcin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/189591/connecting-galaxy-s3-i747-to-ubuntu-12-0406:23
yatrigacannot find device wlan0 please help me06:23
huttanjosh___: about 1.5gb. But u could prolly vary that depending on how much u customize the packages installed ..06:23
Tex_Nickvlyalcin:  have you tried a USB cabel ... direct connection ?06:23
josh___Thanks, huttan seeya!06:24
Tex_NickCable*06:24
yatrigacannot find device wlan0 please help me06:25
wiggmpkyatriga: have any more info to provide?06:25
yatrigatell me what you want06:26
yatrigatell me what you want wiggmpk06:27
vlyalcinDaemonicApathy: checking link06:27
wiggmpkyatriga: was it working before? what kind of wireless card do you have? version of Ubuntu?06:27
yatriga12.04 LTS Its was working, Broadcom wiggmpk06:27
w500ubuntuhello, anyone here good at making gtk3 themes?06:28
wiggmpkyatriga: put the results of "lshw -C network" in pastebin and link the URL to me plz06:28
DaemonicApathyyatriga: What are the chances you hit a button or switch on the laptop to turn off the wireless adapter?06:28
w500ubuntuanyone know how to make gnome-panel fully transparent?06:30
w500ubuntuon gnome classic06:30
yatrigawiggmpk it says no wlan0 device found ,,,,, but it was working yesterday06:30
DaemonicApathyw500ubuntu: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/43673/how-to-make-the-gnome-panels-in-ubuntu-totally-transparent/06:30
wiggmpkyatriga: put the results of "lshw -C network" in pastebin and link the URL to me plz06:31
yatrigaDaemonicApathy no chance, i have tried everything06:31
Tex_Nickw500ubuntu:  you mean the top pannel ?06:31
yatrigawiggmpk ok06:31
Name141how do you bring the etho up and down? isn't it sudo something eth(#) down / up ?06:32
Transfusionifconfig06:32
w500ubuntuDaemonicApathy, i actually read that awhile ago and its mainly for gtk2.0.06:32
w500ubuntuTex_Nick, yes.06:32
TransfusionName141: you can also use ifup eth0 which will run scripts you place in /etc/ifup.d06:33
Transfusion*/etc/network/if-up.d06:33
DaemonicApathyThere's a gtk-3.0 folder with essentially the same contents, w500ubuntu...06:33
Tex_Nickw500ubuntu:  try ... point to pannel ... SUPER+ALT right click properties background06:34
yatrigawiggmpk http://pastebin.com/rDbdPUPe06:34
w500ubuntuDaemonicApathy, yes, your right, but how would i modify it? i did find gnome-panel.css and was able to change the entire panel color, but stuck on how to make it transparent.06:35
magn3ts_some days I really have no love for Ubuntu. Can't login to ANY of my 5 desktop environments... they just immediately loop back to the login screen....06:35
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w500ubuntuTex_Nick, that's only a partial transparency, the applicaitons,places, and tray icon area is still colored.06:35
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magn3ts_and ubiquity is broken and there's no damn log files with anything useful in them06:36
magn3ts_and there's no way to run it in verbose mode06:36
yatrigawiggmpk http://pastebin.com/wtg50tmu06:36
DaemonicApathyw500ubuntu: Ok, the only other suggestion I can think of is try through compizconfig-settings-manager.06:36
yatrigawiggmpk http://pastebin.com/wtg50tmu06:36
Tex_Nickw500ubuntu:  ahhh ok ... i don't know then ... sorry06:36
wiggmpkyatriga: now "lsmod" in pastebin06:36
w500ubuntuDaemonicApathy, I did that too, through opacity, but it makes the text transparent too, very hard to read. if there was a way to make the background only transparent.06:37
wiggmpkyatriga: and "what" is telling you it cant find wlan0, when/where do you see that?06:37
Tex_Nickw500ubuntu:  can you just autu-hide it ... would thaT HELP ?06:38
yatrigawiggmpk http://pastebin.com/RnnCGe3506:38
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w500ubuntuTex_Nick, lol it would, but i'd like to know if it's possible.06:38
BillyZanewhat's the command that I type in terminal to open up a second session? Like, when I type ctrl+alt+F# , I should be able to access a second login screen right? But before I do that, I have to type in a command in terminal. Anyone know what that is?06:39
yatrigawiggmpk dont know06:39
magn3ts_Can someone please help me... I can't login at all06:40
wiggmpkyatriga: well how did you find out that it cant find the device?06:40
magn3ts_And shocker, I can't figure out what log would help me, if any.06:40
Tex_Nickw500ubuntu:  SUPER+ALT right click on panel ... properties ... general tab ... auto hide06:40
magn3ts_When I login, it's sucessful and then it immediately loops backand dumps me in the login scnreen agai06:40
w500ubuntuTex_Nick, lol im aware of that one. just was wondering if full transparency was possible.06:41
aeon-ltdmagn3ts_: sounds like the DE you're using is crashing06:41
Tex_Nickw500ubuntu:  i'm using 12.10 with gnome classic de now ... & have the top & bottom pannels set to auto-hide :)06:41
magn3ts_aeon-ltd: it was all the DEs because I was an idiot and used bash syntax in my .profile.06:41
magn3ts_aeon-ltd: sorry for the false alarm06:41
DaemonicApathyBillyZane: run "startx" in a tty: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/multiple-x.html06:42
aeon-ltdmagn3ts_: it's cool :) better than having problems right?06:42
w500ubuntuTex_Nick, =), i won't give up yet.06:42
magn3ts_That having been said, I'd still happily welcome anyone who can tell me what the hell ubiquity is doing on my system when it goes off the deep end and hangs.06:42
tigrangi just had a kernel panic in ubuntu 12.10. I was editing a file and now that file is empty. is there any way for me to recover the contents of that file?06:42
magn3ts_aeon-ltd: very much so. at first I thought it was because /home is on my BTRFS RAID array and it had been hosed. That was going to put me in tears.06:42
magn3ts_tigrang: what editor?06:43
tigrangPHPStorm06:43
yatrigawiggmpk dont know06:43
wiggmpkyatriga: i dont see the driver module loaded that your wireless care is using.. so you should try to load the module and then restart the networking service.. "sudo modprobe w10" to load the driver then "sudo service networking restart" to restart the networking06:43
magn3ts_tigrang: not sure, sorry.06:43
meltylol06:43
yatrigawiggmpk how do i load the module06:44
OerHeksmagn3ts_, known issue, see http://askubuntu.com/a/241989 >> sudo chown user:user .Xauthority and start lightdm again06:44
wiggmpkyatriga: sudo modprobe w1006:44
tigrangI dont want to rewrite all that code =/06:44
DaemonicApathytigrang: save often06:44
wiggmpkyatriga: then you can do "lsmod" again and look for it to be sure06:44
tigrangI did save06:44
tigrangDaemonicApathy, after kernel panic that file is empty06:45
yatrigawiggmpk ok06:45
DaemonicApathy*shrug*06:45
magn3ts_OerHeks: already got it, I screwed up .profile likea dummy. thanks though!06:45
pranavwiggmpk: it doesn't work still at MTU 1452 or 149206:45
wiggmpkyatriga: if you see the module loaded then restart the networking service.. "sudo service  networking restart"06:46
wiggmpkpranav: damn, ok so question.. you have a router.. and modem? or a combo deal?06:46
pranavi've a wireless router06:46
pranavwhich connects to the gateway ip06:47
pranavand then creates a lan for us06:47
pranavwlan06:47
wiggmpkpranav: ok, so your router is initiating the connection to your ISP, then using NAT and DHCP for your LAN side network?06:47
wiggmpkpranav: in other words, your router is being assigned a WAN facing IP from your IP?06:48
wiggmpkISP*06:48
pranavyes06:48
pranavexactly06:48
wiggmpkpranav: is your router acting as the DNS or just relaying the DNS from your ISP?06:48
pranaveverything works fine under windows. even under ubuntu, but some pages like youtube, fb, ms.. they end up rendering half06:49
pranavoften with missing thumnails and images totally06:49
pranavi've tried 4 different browsers06:49
pranavits same06:49
wiggmpkpranav: so this problem exists on a Windows OS as well?06:50
pranavNo06:50
pranavnot at all06:50
wiggmpkpranav: different machines? difference in connection medium? cat5 vs wireless06:50
pranavnope. i've dual boot in my system06:51
pranavsame router, same lan..06:51
wiggmpkpranav: using any proxy at all system wide or browser based on ubuntu?06:51
pranavand when i use same settings with a netgear router. its completely fine also with UBUNTU. that proves that I have 'none' system wide proxy settings06:51
jmcantrellhow do i turn off the launcher web app thingy?06:52
wiggmpkpranav: ok stupid question... have you tried power cycling all the networking equipment?06:52
KrisBhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux Without CD Section. Afteer "apt-get install grub-pc linux-image", the error: E: Couldn't configure pre-depend multiarch-support for libnih-dbus1, probably a dependency cycle."06:52
pranavyou mean reset.. ? there's only 1 router. it has been resets on power cuts which are frequent06:53
wiggmpkpranav: well not reset per say, just removing the power for like 30seconds, then powering up each 1 at a time with like a 15ish sec lag between devices06:53
Noskcajany idea what happened to the ultimate edition website?06:54
pranavhuh! no06:54
pranavwiggmpk: what is it supposed to do btw.. ? wait06:55
wiggmpkpranav: im assuming you have a DSL modem connected to the router (cant remember if you told me that or not)06:55
wiggmpkpranav: thats like rule 300 and something in IT, if it doesnt work unplug it and plug it back in lol06:55
pranavwiggmpk: yes, a WiFi interface which connects to this WirelessRouter06:56
pranavdiretly06:56
Tex_Nickjmcantrell:  could you please explain that in more detail ?06:56
pranavand the WirelessRouter in turn is connected to a cable that came from ISP06:57
wiggmpkpranav: just a cable? no modem?06:57
pranavyes06:57
wiggmpkpranav: and RJ11 line? regular telephone cord? right into the back of the router?06:58
ASHER1Hello i need please help about control panel i can run in ubuntu?06:58
KrisBso how to fix "Couldn't configure pre-depend multiarch-support for libnih-dbus1, probably a dependency cycle."?06:58
pranavwiggmpk: that is connected to the modem of isp, but its not in our place06:58
pranavits far off the pole06:58
Tex_Nickjmcantrell:  what distro & desktop enviornment are you using ... and what exactly does the "launcher broweser thingy" refer to :)06:59
wiggmpkpranav: thats weird06:59
wiggmpkpranav: is this like a reseller ISP, like a small town?06:59
pranavwiggmpk: yes, you got it right06:59
wiggmpkpranav: has this always been a problem or just more recently?07:00
ASHER1someone?07:00
pranavwiggmpk: i just subsribed to them07:00
pranav*subscribed07:00
pranavokey, here's sth i found07:00
pranavthere is this 2.5KB image07:00
pranavhttps://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc6/260668_1389536856_209124208_q.jpg07:00
pranavthis fails to load with TPRouter07:01
pranavand loads well with NetGear07:01
wiggmpkpranav: how old is the TProuter vs the Netgear?07:01
pranavnetgear 1 month, and TPLink 1 week07:01
pranavwiggmpk: do you think i should start watching for packets in wireshark07:02
wiggmpkpranav: did your ISP give you the TPLink ?07:02
pranavno, i bought it07:02
pranavand compare the changes in packets for both routers07:02
wiggmpkpranav: i mean you could if you know how to read them, im not really familiar with wireshark07:02
pranavwiggmpk: me too07:02
wiggmpkpranav: is there any benefit to using the TPLink router over the Netgear?07:03
pranavwiggmpk: Netgear is my friends router. not any known benefit. a bit expensive. but the cp has lesser settings to change07:05
pranavi tried to compare all the fields like RTS, MTU07:05
pranavits mostly same07:05
meltylol07:05
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wiggmpkpranav: well I would say call your ISP for tech support, but they will probably turn you away once you mention linux07:06
Ben64if its working with one router and not the other, it sounds like a router problem07:07
pranavwiggmpk: exactly.07:07
wiggmpkBen64: true, but he said when he's in Windows using the router that doesnt work with Ubuntu he doesnt have the issue07:07
pranavwiggmpk: yes07:08
Ben64bad lan drivers in linux?07:08
ASHER1?07:08
wiggmpkBen64: possible I guess, but with his friends Netgear router the issue isnt present either07:08
Ben64yeah, some routers suck07:09
wiggmpkpranav: I would hate to tell you to spend the extra money on a Netgear, Cisco, or dare I say Linksys.. but I'm at a lost my friend =(07:09
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pranavwiggmpk: seems like it..07:10
asilhouette1anybody been able to create working virtual AP's on mac80211.07:10
Ben64get a cisco valet m1007:10
Ben64i found one at a thrift store for $8, works fantastic with Tomato07:10
pranavBen64: noted07:10
asilhouette1i was able to create a virtual AP but couldn't use the device to both receive and distribute wifi07:10
wiggmpkBen64 yeah with Tomato lol07:10
Ben64worked fine stock too, but I like the custom firmwares07:11
wiggmpkI hear that07:11
pranavBen64: wiggmpk: but why would only few images, links, and css fails GET request on some sites. i mean because of hardware ?07:12
prashant_123456ltsp cannot login using username and password no response from server session restarting07:13
prashant_123456bean, got tftp working07:13
Ben64bad lan driver, router connection limit, um...07:13
wiggmpkpranav: in my opinion... its a 2 sided coin.. different equipment works so it could be the router.. but it also could be drivers in your ubuntu installation07:14
Ben64you should say what card it is07:14
wiggmpkCan anyone help me fix auto-mute.. I get sound from my headphones.. when I unplug them, no sound from speakers.. disabling auto-mute in alsamixer gives me sound all the time in bother channels07:15
Tex_Nickpranav:  would wget http://site ... with the log attribute show you errors ? ... not sure bout that07:15
HTOOHTOO123hay07:16
pranavwait07:16
HTOOHTOO123sup07:16
Tex_Nicksomething like wget -o ... as i remember ... don't remember what log shows though07:16
HTOOHTOO123.o0o.07:17
magn3tsfor the love of all that is good, let me report a freaking bug on launchpad07:18
magn3ts"Report a bug" takes me to a useless community wiki page07:18
HTOOHTOO123hahhah07:18
pranavwiggmpk: Tex_Nick: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632221/07:18
hillarywhat are the procedures of accessing localhost documents in ubuntu 12.0407:18
pranavsry07:19
pranavits with no quotes07:19
pranav:(07:19
wiggmpkpranav: can you ping fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net07:19
pranavits the same error log but :)07:19
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pranavwiggmpk: have tried it before.. it fails07:20
pranavbut not with the other device..07:20
wiggmpkhmm07:21
wiggmpkpranav: any firewalls on either of the routers?07:21
pranavwiggmpk: never seen a word "firewall" in any pages of CP for both the router07:22
pranavwiggmpk: ok, guys thanks for the coordination.. :)07:23
wiggmpkpranav: anything like Internet NAT redirection or Multicast something like that?07:23
wiggmpkpranav: one more question... both of the routers.. are they giving out IPv4 address's or IPv6?07:23
pranavwiggmpk: couldn't get. my LAN IP, and router's WAN is IPv407:24
Tex_Nickpranav:  i haven't scrolled up to see the entire issue ... if you're only loosingpartial data on partial protocols intermittently ... can you just plug your pc direct into the cloud ... or have you already done that & determined probnlem is with a specific device ?07:24
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wiggmpkpranav: ifconfig will show your IP address's07:25
wiggmpkTex_Nick: looks like he narrowed it down to a specific router, only affecting his Ubuntu install07:26
pranavTex_Nick: haven't tried that.. (trying takes losing connection)07:27
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pranavwill try and tell you guys07:27
Tex_Nickpranav:  process of elimination :)07:27
pranavwiggmpk: i think sites like facebook, microsoft, and youtube started using some IPv6, right ?07:27
pranavTex_Nick: yes :)07:28
pranavwiggmpk: those are the sites that renders through halfway07:28
wiggmpkpranav: yeah but that wouldnt matter for you, only their connection to the net.07:28
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pranavok07:29
wiggmpkpranav: you wanna pastebin "ifconfig" for me? just curious07:29
pranavgmail is totally fine07:29
wiggmpkpranav: but im at a loss07:29
pranavwiggmpk: loss.. means ?07:29
wiggmpkpranav: no idea how to fix it haha07:30
hilarieOkay, I run my ubuntu server, on a thumb drive, and occasionally check DU, and quite recently, the /var/log filled up my disk, is this normal(it has a public ip)07:30
HTOOHTOO123nslookup07:30
wiggmpkpranav: other than the obvious of replacing the equipment with known working hardware07:30
pranavwiggmpk: hehe... yes07:30
pranavwiggmpk:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632240/07:31
hilarieis there anything bad that could happen if I 'sudo rm -r /var/log/*07:31
hilarie'07:31
wiggmpkhilarie: an absence of logs... but probably not07:32
hillaryThanks i have managed. just copy the extracted folder to /var/ww/. then type in the browser localhost/folder then press enter.there you are to access itlocally07:32
wiggmpkpranav: looks like your getting both ipv4 and 6 address's07:32
hilarieHillary, your name freaks me out07:32
Tex_Nickpranav:  you mentioned wireshark earlier ... it's a good tool for what you want to do07:32
Tex_Nickhave you asked in #ubuntu-server07:32
kunjiI'm on Lubuntu and I just noticed something kind of odd.  All I have open is a terminal window.  If it's open I get a little bit of static on the analogue audio out, if it's minimized the static disappears.  It's not really a problem, but I was wondering about any speculation on why this might happen?07:33
tigrangAfter a kernel panic occurred, the file I was editing is now empty. Is there any way to recover its contents?07:33
wiggmpktigrang: you can try and look for the file with the ~ after it.. should be hidden07:34
pranavTex_Nick: yes, i will try the process of elimination and then go for it for some clues ;)07:34
wiggmpktigrang: example /etc/hosts vs /etc/hosts~07:34
hillaryhilarie,  oops ! why?07:34
tigrangwiggmpk, there isn't a file like that07:34
wiggmpkpranav: if you have the option to disable IPv6 on the router, try that too07:34
Tex_Nickpranav:  good luck man ... report back :)07:34
pranavok07:35
hilariehillary ?07:35
wiggmpktigrang: guess you didnt make a copy of the original before editing?07:35
hillaryhilarie,  Good name eah! change yours to hillary07:36
tigrangit started off as an empty file, I wrote all of it07:36
hilariesomeone had already registered it!07:36
histoWonder who?07:36
wiggmpktigrang: no save in between editing eh... unless someone else has a trick I think you lost it07:37
tigrangwiggmpk, yes, there were many saves07:37
hillaryhilarie, but this is hillary man  from kenya not hillary clinton!! good sunday07:37
tigrangbut it crashed while I was saving (again)07:37
wiggmpktigrang: then there should be a ~ file.. it's hidden though.. enter the directory and try ls -la07:37
tigrangwiggmpk, doesnt that depend on the editor? There isn't a file like that (wish there was lol)07:38
wiggmpktigrang: which editor were you using?07:38
Tex_Nickkunji : sounds like an emi vertical refresh interference ... usually caused by a bad decouple capacitor on motherboard ?07:38
tigrangwiggmpk, phpstorm07:38
tigrangit keeps local history of files, but that directory got corrupted too07:39
hilariehillary It's hilarie Duff!07:39
hilarietyvm07:39
hilarieWell, I backed up the log file to another drive, and deleted it, if it fills up again, I guess i will be back!07:39
wiggmpktigrang: uggh, there's nothing else I could think of07:40
tigrangk07:40
tigrangthanks07:40
histohilarie: what log file?07:40
hilariehisto the mail, and the auth, and xorg, were all over a gig07:41
Tex_Nickkunji : if you move the window around os type into it ... do you hear hissing ?07:41
theadminhilarie: Make sure logrotate and some sort of a cron daemon are installed07:41
hilarietheadmin it was less then a week from it being tiny, to this07:41
theadminhilarie: Yeah, tends to happen when logrotate is missing.07:41
kunjiTex_Nick: Are those the bigger caps that you can usually replace yourself?  All of those look ok to me (no leaking, no bulging, perfectly flat tops).  It's a very slight change, so I was thinking it's probably not a hardware 'flaw' per se, that is maybe in the design, but I think the components are good.  I may not have expressed my question well.07:42
hilariethere were a couple .olds and stuff, would that have been log rotate?07:42
kunjiTex_Nick: Hmm, I do hear a modulation in the static, it's not really a hiss though, more of a very quiet buzzing who's frequency changes a little as a move the window around.07:43
theadminhilarie: Not sure what makes those, but I have logrotate installed, the system is running for about a month now and /var/log is only 9 meters big07:43
theadminhilarie: Err, megabytes.07:43
Tex_Nickkunji : no those are filter caps ... the ones i'm talking about are the size of small ants :(07:43
histohilarie: You can take a look at logrotate configs and see what it's set for. But .old is not something it usually does.07:43
kunjiTex_Nick: Oh, ... those ones, yuck, would just need to live with it if there's a problem with one of those07:44
hilarieWell, /var/log hit 4gb in less then a week07:44
histohilarie: is it full of errors?07:44
theadminhilarie: sudo apt-get install logrotate # Should fix your issue.07:44
histohilarie: for instance I have /var/log mounted to ram right now and it's only 1M07:44
yatrigahow do i control fan speed in ubuntu07:45
histoyatriga: I just saw something about that.07:45
Tex_Nickkunji : yeah, sounds like the video vertical refresh signal is bleeding onto the bus ... not good :(07:45
hilariehisto need security? why is /var/log there?07:45
yatrigahisto pls share07:45
theadmin!info fanctonrol | yatriga07:46
ubottuyatriga: Package fanctonrol does not exist in quantal07:46
theadminwha07:46
theadminOh, typo07:46
theadmin!info fancontrol | yatriga07:46
tigrang~info fancontrol | yatriga07:46
ubottuyatriga: fancontrol (source: lm-sensors): utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:3.3.1-2ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 20 kB, installed size 111 kB07:46
tigrang:)07:46
yatrigadoes that control the fan speed or just monitor?07:46
wiggmpkyatriga: did you get your wireless fixed?07:47
theadminyatriga: It can set the fan speed to desired one according to defined temperatures in the config file07:47
kunjiTex_Nick: Well, it's no show stopper at least, this machine has been solid for almost 3 years now, I don't use the audio on it much though, so I probably just never notice (has mostly been serving as a linux based router).07:47
histoyatriga: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XloTXFgNL7s  Hak5 just did an episode on battery savings etc..07:48
yatrigawiggmpk : Yup Cheers07:48
hilariekunji my ubuntu router is also my media center and fileserver :D07:48
histoyatriga: They also talked about fanspeed07:48
wiggmpkyatriga: woot07:48
tigrangwiggmpk, I think setting up ubuntu one to sync automatically would be wise :P07:48
wiggmpktigrang: thats probably a good idea =)07:48
histohilarie: I moutn log in ram because I have an SSD and I dont' care about hte logs after reboot07:48
hilariehisto ahhh07:49
lupfantomoHi all.  I've recently upgraded to 12.10 and my connection is painfully slow whether plugged in or wireless.  I've followed everything I can find googling for a solution with no luck.  Any ideas?07:49
dan_hi i am having trouble getting wine to work07:50
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Guest55717about half the time i run it it says it can't find my .exe file07:50
Guest55717the other half it works fine07:50
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theadminlupfantomo: Try disabling IPv6 (in NetworkManager, click "Edit" on your connection, go to "IPv6 Settings" and set "Method" to "Ignore", then reconnect)07:50
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tripelbi've neen asking here for 1.5 weeks about my partitions. 5 min on #linux and the advice was delete the non-windows ones. I go discover cfdisk...do it. Magic! gparted and the installer now work. Whew. Been a long strange trip07:50
_dan_anyone know how to debug it?07:51
amiu"Download Ubuntu One for Windows!"  <--- Why is this so damn funny?07:51
amiuwrong room...07:51
lupfantomotheadmin: I've done that.  I've also updated the drivers, and tried wicd(now back on network manager).  Nothing seems to help.  Windows is fine with it so I don't think it is a hardware issue.07:51
hilarietripelb lol, nice07:51
tripelb:P07:51
kunjihilarie: I actually opted to have a different machine handle the other two functions, mainly because of a lack of a good way to get fast file I/O on this machine (only USB 2.0 and only space inside for a single drive).  I'm now repurposing it as a light desktop system since I got a new router and put dd-wrt on it.07:51
tripelbhil07:51
theadminlupfantomo: Hm... Interesting.07:52
theadminlupfantomo: (that means I don't know what the problem is :D)07:52
_dan_or, any advice for updating wine to a non buggy version? i assumed the one in the repos would be ok07:52
_dan_i am using 12.0407:52
helmut_hi07:52
theadmin_dan_: Wine doesn't have a "non-buggy version", it's not perfect, probably will never be07:52
Tex_Nickkunji : i hear you ... a kludge would be to place a capacitor ( polyethelene non-polarized ) .o1 pf across the audio sig &gnd lines ... problem is the noise is on the buis ... i wonder if it might get worse with time ... maybe start causind data corruption07:52
lupfantomotheadmin: I've yelled in rage a few times and am horribly close to turning the laptop into a paper weight. :D07:52
kunji_dan_: There is not non buggy version07:52
kunji*not a non..07:53
_dan_well ok, one that at least is consistent in failing :/07:53
lupfantomoGuess I'll go back to 12.04.  But tomorrow.  My head is aching too much now.07:53
histo!appdb | _dan_07:53
ubottu_dan_: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help07:53
theadmin_dan_: You can find instructions on getting the latest Wine version on http://winehq.org07:53
theadmin_dan_: That's much as I can say07:53
kunjiTex_Nick: Hmm, well, I'll just watch it carefully for now, if it give me any further problems I'll try that, thanks ^_^07:53
histo_dan_: the other option is running a winblows virtual machine seamlessly07:53
_dan_that is not going to be fast enough07:54
_dan_i want to run avisynth, virtualization would bloat it too much i think07:54
histo_dan_: what does avisynth do perhaps there is an opensource alternative07:54
tripelbhilarie: thanks. no one here could deal with partitions.  nice to know where to go. Moral we need a page on how to overwrite an ubuntu pver a prev. installation. or an option to do so in the installer. i guessed and messed it up.07:54
kunji_dan_: Dual boot is the the best way to do it, as much as I hate to run Windows....07:55
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Tex_Nickkunji : it might also be comming from the power supply ... switching power supplys generarte a lot of emi ... that's why they are in their own box ... you might try another pS to see07:55
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_dan_avisynth is a video processing / scripting program, it is open source07:55
_dan_it just relies too much on directshow / vfw to work on linux currently07:55
histo_dan_: Do they posibly have a linux version?07:55
_dan_their linux version is probably even more unstable than running it in wine :)07:56
* Tex_Nick DCC's kunji a BIG hammer ờᴗớ07:56
we6jboHi07:56
kunjiTex_Nick: Hmm, the power block is external actually, it's a NT510: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1685611902607:56
damhyojunghi all07:57
we6jboI have a question07:57
kunji!ask | we6jbo07:57
ubottuwe6jbo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience07:57
histo_dan_: Doubtfull07:57
yatrigais there anything called as smc fancontrol like in mac07:57
yatrigato change thr rpn via gui?07:57
Tex_Nickahh , ok looked at it ... it uses a brick ps07:57
histo_dan_: I would try the linux version over running through wine. and there is this I also found http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/AviSynth_v307:57
tigrangDoes ubuntu one usually take a really long time for syncing? (at least the first time)07:58
amiuspend $5 on a hardware fan controller?07:58
_dan_avisynth v3 is not even in alpha state yet :)07:58
amiutheres avidemux07:58
yatrigaamiu i can spend?07:58
kunjiYatriga: I don't think I've heard of anyone using a gui for it, nor of a program with that name on Ubuntu, I could be wrong though.07:58
amiuyeah. a thing that goes in one of your empty drive bays with knobs that you turn yourself to control fan speed07:59
yatrigakunji dont u think we need one07:59
kunji_dan_: Are you trying to edit video or convert files, if the later, then I would suggest ffmpeg, though it has a steep learning curve.07:59
amiutheres a lot of stuff id like to have. like an overclocking tool for something becides GPU08:00
theadminkunji: There's winff which makes it easier :P08:00
kunjitheadmin: Yeah, but it doesn't cover a lot of cases, good place to start though.08:00
we6jboI have a PPA USB to Serial Adapter and I want to plug a serial device into it and access it through Ubuntu08:01
_dan_i am mostly converting files08:01
kunjitigrang: In my experience yes, the first time at least takes quite a while to sync.08:01
tigrangkunji, ok, thanks08:01
histo_dan_: then use ffmpeg08:02
amiui've been using OpenShot for conversion08:02
theadmin_dan_: Then just use winff or ffmpeg or mencoder08:02
amiulittle overkill but it does the job n its easy to use08:02
yatrigaThanks08:03
user__how are you08:04
kunjiamiu: I'm pretty sure OpenShot uses ffmpeg underneath.  It might be good for his uses, I haven't tried it before, I don't know how much of ffmpeg's functionality it exposes.08:04
histowe6jbo: plug it in and use it then08:05
we6jboI tried but I couldn't seem to get it to work08:06
dydzEz2man i need to find a good grub splash image08:06
yatrigabest application to design web apps08:07
histo!best | yatriga08:07
ubottuyatriga: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.08:07
kunji!details | we6jbo08:07
ubottuwe6jbo: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."08:07
yatrigaok dok08:07
we6jboWell I have a program called D-Rats that I installed and a D-Star radio. I plugged the radio into the Serial to USB converter which goes in the laptop but when I setup d-rats I couldnt seem to connect and it gave me errors. It asked where the serial port was /dev/ttyUSB0 is what I have it set at08:09
lucidohi, how can I active remote desktop from the terminal?08:09
histowe6jbo: lookat dmesg and see what port it actually is08:10
histo!vnc | lucido08:11
ubottulucido: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX08:11
we6jboIll have to try that when I'm in the car again sometime tomorrow08:12
amiuokay how about is there anything that has more features (prefurably WYSIWYG) than Bluefish?08:13
histowe6jbo: If the machine hasn't been shut off the info is still probably in dmesg08:13
histowe6jbo: Also i'm assuming that's probably the wrong portname08:13
we6jboit wouldnt be in /dev would it?08:14
histowe6jbo: Yes but it depends which usb port it's plugged into.08:15
histowe6jbo: It may be on a different port depends where you plug it in etc...08:16
histowe6jbo: But basically when you have the hardware in front of you. sudo dmesg -c   to clear dmesg.  Then hook up your stuff. and check the output of dmesg  It should show you the device name.08:18
MK`How do I check which programs are using an amount of bandwidth?08:20
histoMK`: ntop I believe shows with process is using bandwidth08:20
MK`alright thanks08:20
dydzEz2is there a GUI application now a days for changing grub splash screens08:21
dydzEz2i found a post but its so old08:21
we6jboCould that be it 1.105496] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial.08:21
histowe6jbo: just below that.08:22
histowe6jbo: dmesg | grep usb08:22
histowe6jbo: You should see something like now attached to ttyUSBx08:23
histodmesg | grep tty I guess would work also08:23
lucidokj08:25
StuartIanNaylorAnyone know how to force 12.04 kernel to load the software raid modules?08:28
StuartIanNaylorMy server is banging out during grub because the raid5 / (root) partition isn't being detected08:29
vedicHi friends, I have setup logwatch which is sending email every day. It was sending log data from ssh log file as well (number of successful attempts, illegal user attempts, failed attempts etc) but now it is not appearing08:30
vedicHow to fix this?08:30
Alocerlook in your spam folder08:31
vedicAlocer: Spam folder? I do get email but attached log file is missing data from ssh log files which logwatcher used to collect before08:32
Alocersry vedic i cant help more than that i have no idea what s logwatcher . i mean i have never worked with it.08:33
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we6jbois it possible that if the serial device isn't setup property and I have the USB Serial plugged in that I won't see TTYUSB?08:34
WugI fixed the problem of not being able to login08:34
Wugsomehow root got a hold of my .Xauthority08:34
dydzEz2anyone know a good site for gub splash images08:34
kunjiCome to think of it, how do you overclock in Ubuntu?  Or do we basically just let the BIOS handle things like that?  I know for the Raspberry Pi you can do it with directives in a file that is read on boot (for Raspbian), but they're dealing with a pretty particular piece of hardware.08:34
Wugkunji: let the bios do it08:35
Alocer:P08:35
BlackDalekwhat is an easy/fastest way to convert ogv video file to an mpeg2 mpg file of similar quality?08:36
kunjiWug: Right, that's my general approach, I suppose the question is, does it always go through the bios.  So do apps for overclocking basically just change the bios/send bios directives.  Or is there something actually exposed directly to the OS level that could allow more direct runtime changes?08:37
vedicI have setup logwatch which is sending email every day and log file as attachment to that email. I am creating log file manually by running logwatcher --output to file and then using commandline email client to send that log file as attachment. Logwatcher was sending log data from ssh log file and other network attempts but now logwatcher is sending only disk status no network data. Why logwatcher is not able to get all data?08:39
kunjiWug: Or maybe you want to force a particular level of cpu scaling and the bios doesn't happen to support this in their GUI, whereas Catalyst would actually allow you to set this on WIndows, but I believe it does not on Ubuntu.08:39
Wuggenerally the bios will let you use levels of scaling that are far beyond what the cpu is capable of08:40
kunjiBlackDalek: Probably Winff08:40
Wugunless you mean a cpu with a locked multiplier or something08:40
kunjiBlackDalek: Or maybe OpenShot, ffmpeg will for sure work, but using it directly isn't the easiest thing08:40
Wugbut I don't think you need to worry about breaking 6GHz for a while :D08:40
WugI'm going to post a guide of exactly how I unborked my partitions later08:41
kunjiWub: I don't mean that, I mean the dynamic scaling they often do for power saving08:41
Wugwub wub wub \:D/08:41
* Wug goes away08:41
lupfantomoThis is ridiculous.  I can't even surf thanks to it.  Getting rid of ubuntu once and for all I think.  Each update only has more problems and it's become more hassle than it's worth.08:41
BlackDalekkunji, I have been trying ffmeg but every time it makes a hideously pixelated low quality file... trying openshot right now, but it's very slow...08:41
WugBlackDalek: post the arguments you're using (or pastebin them if theyre huge)08:42
defekt!botsnack08:43
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!08:43
kunjiBlackDalek: Well, conveting video will always be slow.  Also the problem you're having with ffmpeg is almost certainly that you're not giving it the right arguments.  Almost every conversion tool on linux uses ffmpeg underneath, including OpenShot.  So if OpenShot ends up giving better results, then you know for sure you just weren't giving ffmpeg the right arguments for preserving quality, etc..08:43
kunji*converting08:43
Wugbrb restarting x08:43
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WugI dont know why I bothered to come back08:45
Tex_NickBlackDalek:  try ... ffmpeg -i inVid.ogg -sameq outVid.mpg08:45
Wugnothing's broken \:D/08:45
Tex_NickBlackDalek:  ogg = ogv ^08:47
ibqnI have issues with my wifi connection after an update I am not able to connect anymore!!! using broadcom08:48
waheedipeople anyone knows where can i find session command for ubuntu08:49
waheedi?08:49
dydzEz2is adding a custom grub background image as easy as going into boot/grub as root and adding an image and then updating grub?08:49
waheeditrying to use session required /lib/security/pam_limits.so08:49
Aloceryes dydzEz208:49
dydzEz2i want to make a image that like hides the lines and makes everything natural08:49
Alocercomment out the line that you dont want08:50
pleb22Hi there, I am having trouble with chromium and firefox connecting to the internet... but ping DOES work08:51
kunjilupfantomo:I missed the beginning of your conversation, but you're trying to get a wireless connection to work?  You're sure it's the right driver?  For getting help with that you should probably provide exactly what the device, you can find this using: lspci   Also any errors that might be related in /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/syslog  Also check that the correct module is present, and being loaded (this part I'm unfortunately fuzzy on, pr08:51
dydzEz2 alocer i mean like the box , the layout of grub08:52
dydzEz2you can do that? what file08:52
vedicI have setup logwatch which creates a file as --output. Logwatcher was sending log data from ssh log file and other network attempts but now logwatcher is sending only disk status no network data. Why logwatcher is not able to get all data?08:52
AlocerdydzEz2, i think you have recompile it IDK08:52
Wugpleb22: you're using irc from the box with issues?08:53
kunjipleb22: Have you checked if your dns is working?  Does ping something.com fail, but ping x.x.x.x works?08:53
pleb22Wug: Negative08:53
pleb22DNS works from ping08:54
Wugwhat sort of errors are you getting from the web?08:54
Wugalso is this a wired or wireless connection08:54
pleb22Wug: Just unresponsive08:54
pleb22it doesnt time out08:54
pleb22bridged VMWARE08:54
kunjipleb22: Hmm, maybe incorrect system wide proxy settings (which firefox will use by default)?08:54
pleb22no proxy08:54
Wugpleb22: host machine works though?08:55
Halite.08:55
pleb22host works fine08:55
Haliteomg08:55
* Halite became a chicken08:55
Alocerpleb22, what about firewall on both host and guest08:55
pleb22bridged should bypass host.. but checking firewall now08:55
pleb22ufw maybe...08:55
HaliteIt should be easier to make programs08:55
WugHalite: no it shouldn't08:55
pleb22will try turning off ufw... how do you do that btw?08:55
Halitefor those who don't know Python08:55
Wugthats like saying it should be easier to make cars08:56
HaliteWug: It may be easy enough, but there are people who don't use Python08:56
Wugcan you imagine a world where everyone drove a bucket of bolts they built themselves08:56
STMelonpleb22: suso ufw disable08:56
Alocerpleb22, "ufw disable"08:56
Wugthere would be no standards08:56
pleb22disabled08:56
pleb22nothing08:56
ThreepwoodHalite: cmon programming python easy, also for people not using it, nothing compared to sth real like c++08:56
pleb22will disable host now08:56
pleb22host firewall off... dont hack me :p08:57
HaliteThreepwood: I should make a Javascript API for Ubuntu programming, any ideas on that08:57
Alocerlol08:57
* Wug haxors pleb22 08:57
* Halite haxors Wug08:57
Alocerlol how u do that wug :P ?08:57
pleb22is haxored08:57
ThreepwoodHalote: no sorry, didn't do that, so I also would have to ask the net :)08:58
Wugim behind 7 proxies, a bouncer, and 2 routers08:58
auronandaceHalite: maybe gnome3 developer would like you08:58
pleb22both firewalls off... nothing08:58
Wugnow you're trapped inside. checkmate :D08:58
pleb22damn08:58
vedic I have setup logwatch which creates a file as --output. Logwatcher was sending log data from ssh log file and other network attempts but now logwatcher is sending only disk status no network data. Why logwatcher is not able to get all data?08:58
kunjiWub: But all your systems have UPnP turned on :P08:58
pleb22whilst your haxoring me, could you fix my internet?? :p08:58
Wugkunji: universal plug and pwn08:58
Alocerw8 pleb22 how are u talking here right now ?08:59
kunjipleb22: Ah, vmware and networking, you should probably give the details of your entire setup and pastebin them.  Also, the folks in ##networking may know more, also in whatever the vmware channel is (it could be some bug on their end, we haven't ruled anything out).08:59
Alocerpleb22, R U on host ?08:59
Tex_NickAlocer : you type /me message ... and it dings every device on the net ờᴗớ08:59
Wuglook at wug's magical topic derailing powers08:59
WugI think its time for me to go.  night everyone08:59
pleb22yeah on host08:59
pleb22its just the ubuntu box that wont connect... so wierd08:59
pleb22bet this will be something simple and humiliating09:00
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Alocerok ru sure the problem isnt related to VMWare ?09:00
pleb22well maybe, but simplest connection is bridged, which just behaves like a physical nic09:00
pleb22bridges a local nic and has an IP address on external network09:01
pleb22it WAS working09:01
Alocerwhat is the environment variable for proxis have checked them ?09:01
Alocerhave you checked*09:01
pleb22checking now... should be no proxy09:03
pleb22oh09:03
pleb22env variable?09:03
pleb22where do I find that09:03
Aloceryes i think09:03
Aloceri cant remebered09:03
Alocerremember it *09:03
Alocersry09:03
pleb22lol09:04
pleb22didnt know there was such a thing09:04
Alocercheck the file : -> /etc/environment/ dont change it just c if its empty or not . mine have only path variable09:05
kunjipleb22: Easy way to check though, open firefox, edit->preferences->advanced->network->Settings  Set to No proxy and then see if it works09:05
Alocerlol09:05
Aloceryes09:05
pleb22yeah did that09:05
pleb22nada09:05
Aloceri have no cards to show you09:06
kunjipleb22: Mmmk, shouldn't be misconfiged proxy settings then09:06
Alocerpleb22, R u living in iran ?09:06
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pleb22lol09:07
pleb22nor china09:07
pleb22NZ09:07
Alocer:P09:07
pleb22host connects as well09:07
pleb22so annoying09:07
Aloceridk sry09:07
pleb22dev box, so its holding me up now... grr09:07
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pleb22ok next test, is another vm on the same bridged network!09:08
Alocertry creating another profile with network manager09:08
kunjipleb22: Messed up route table sending traffic going different places over other interfaces?  Does route look okay to you?  I don't want you posting your public ip on here though, so remember to change anything to x.x.x.x if needed before pastebinning it, if needed.  I'm stabbing in the dark at this point though -_-09:08
Tex_Nick12.10 ... when i try to connect to windoze 7 ics ... ics is showing a conflicting IP Addy ... i don't have an IP on this ubuntu lan that would cause that09:08
Tex_Nick:( sorry i don't kids do09:10
ibqnmy wifi has stopped working after one more low quality update on a lenovo s10-3t laptop, I am not able to fix it(((09:10
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pleb22ibqn: bummer dude09:11
HaliteI plan to make a web development designer - how can I make a multiline rich textbox in Glade Designer09:12
kunjiibqn: Hmm, I've got that laptop, it might be something the firmware can change that is (as far as I know) only accessible from windows.09:12
* Halite hate Windows09:14
* Halite falls in love with Ubuntu09:14
ibqnkunji, what is accessible from windows?09:14
kunjiibqn: You've checked the hardware switch right?  Then in Windows that comes on it, using the fn+f5 toggles the wireless in firmware (this is the part I don't know how to access from linux).09:14
* Halite has a baby with Ubuntu09:14
ibqnkunji, it was working well09:15
HaliteI plan to make a web development kit - how can I make a multiline rich textbox in Glade Designer for the HTML09:15
ibqnkunji, and fn buttons still work as well09:15
kunjiibqn: And windows hasn't been booted since?  Then it's probably not a hardware specific problem.  The buttons do work for other things, but not for that (i.e. they work for volume, brightness, etc.. )09:16
Tex_NickHalite:  this channel is not for programming support ... try ##programming :)09:17
kunjiibqn: Ok, hmm, the wireless won't work at all?  Are you using the network manager, or have you swapped it for something else?09:17
Halitewhere was that ubuntu development channel again09:17
Halitewas it ##ubuntu-development09:17
Halite##ubuntu-devel-kit09:17
kunjiHalite: Hmm, actually does glade have it's own channel?  It's a pretty specific topic.09:18
ibqnkunji, it seems to work but I am not able to establish any connection any more09:18
Halite##glade09:18
ibqnit just disconnects09:19
Halite#glade09:19
Tex_NickHalite: sounds like you're referring to the channel for ubuntu development team09:19
Alocerpleb22, what happend fixed ?09:19
patrycjuszanyone can help me with my question ? witch is better for personal use, vagrant of ubuntu instalation from scratch on VirtualBox09:21
kunjiibqn: Ah, then we get to look at all kinds of things.  Check for errors in /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/syslog that are related to the wireless.  Also pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file, (or describe the setting you're using to connect if you're using network manager).  Also describe the network you're trying to connect to, (Open, WPA, WEP, WPA2, needs a signed cert, etc... ).09:21
kunjiibqn: Oh, also the output of lspci just in case they used more than one kind of wireless card in this model.  By the way, if it's the same as the one in mine, using it as an access point and in the other modes actually works really well.09:23
pleb22Alocer: Nah, all VM's are broken :(09:24
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pleb22must be vmware bridged connection broke09:24
pleb22going to get a box of tissues09:24
pleb22cause thats sad09:24
kunjipleb22: Hmm, have you tried a reboot yet, it might fix it.09:24
pleb22theres a thought09:25
pleb22But my wife is watching a movie09:25
pleb22and would get upset at me09:25
pleb22haha09:25
pleb22Argo09:26
pleb22not bad09:26
kunjipleb22: lol, is it eating all the bandwidth, that could be the problem, after all, I doubt the host is doing any QOS.09:26
pleb22actually, thats probably it.... I half shutdown earlier today, and cancelled the shutdown. Probably got to killing vmwares networking service lol09:27
pleb22nah, we do this all the time.. Netgear N60009:27
pleb22reasonably beafy09:27
kunjipleb22: Ah, ok, I was thinking you were routing the video through the host or something, I've been looking at linux based routing stuff too much recently :P09:28
pleb22oh I am09:28
pleb22but not from linux09:29
pleb22host is serving that09:29
keplerkunji: http://goo.gl/6XGsz with pfsense09:29
keplerthen http://goo.gl/E7jCe for a WAP09:29
zetherooHas anyone successfully embedded audio into a PDF in Ubuntu?09:30
kunjikepler: That's a really convenient one having the two wired NICs09:30
kepleryeah, i picked one up a couple months ago09:30
dydzEz2is there anyway to get a true actual resolution picture of my grub that is shown when im booting my pc09:30
dydzEz2cuz god id spend 500 bucks easy and send that to a graphics designer for some sick images09:30
keplersmall and quiet09:31
keplerfanless, so it just sits there09:31
kunjizetheroo: Personally I think embedded audio in a pdf is a travesty... haven't tried it.09:31
kunjidydzEz2: There should be, have you read the docs yet?09:32
kunji!grub2 | dydzEz209:32
ubottudydzEz2: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)09:32
kunjidydzEz2: The second link goes to pretty good documentation for pretty much everything it can do (follow any further links from there).09:33
dydzEz2thanks09:33
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isasha_Hiya. Can anyone help me change permissions for a hdd that doesn't let me write?09:42
kunjiisasha_: Maybe, is it NTFS?09:42
Tex_NickdydzEz2:  pc tutorial videos often show th pc starting up, with clear video ... what they usually do is connect the video of the computer that is starting to a video capture card on another pc09:43
isasha_possibly09:43
isasha_it may be even mac-os x journaled09:43
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dydzEz2video capture card hmm09:43
dydzEz2tex_nick is newegg a good site for those09:44
kunjiisasha_: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l  and let me which device you think this drive is (you can probably tell from the size).09:44
kunji*let me know..09:44
Tex_NickdydzEz2:  yes !!! best source imho :)09:44
FnorZanybody has experience with gaming keyboards under ubuntu/linux?09:44
kunjiFnorZ: Umm, I've got one, I haven't tried using any of the special stuff though (aka macros)09:45
FnorZkunji, thats exactly what my question was aiming for :O09:45
isasha_kunji: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632467/09:46
isasha_it's the /dev/sdc one09:46
Tex_NickdydzEz2:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=video+capture&x=0&y=0  ... you'll need ti filter that list cause there are over 700 devices09:46
dydzEz2ths needs to be worked on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Themes09:47
FnorZi seek a gaming keyboard with which i can use the billions of special keys under linux09:47
kunjiFnorZ: My guess is that it depends how much is done on the keyboard itself (if it stores the macros on it's own there) or if it's done through the driver or what.09:47
AxioHi, I tried to install 3.8 kernel on ubuntu 12.04, but it breaks lirc (I need to test the latest kernel to confirm a bug). When I try to restart lirc it, in the terminal it hangs forever and I can't kill it. What should I do?09:47
FnorZkunji, yep, thats a point09:47
FnorZthe latter one would be the more OS dependent one09:47
ThreepwoodAxio: "kill -9" can't kill it?09:47
AxioThreepwood: nope it can't kill it09:48
sencha12.04 is really freaking nice.09:48
senchathe only thing I wish Unity had was a pager09:48
isasha_kunji ?09:49
theadminsencha: Pager?09:49
kunjiisasha_: Oh, it's using gpt instead of just MBR, run sudo parted -l   I should probably start telling people to use that off the bat these days instead of fdisk.09:49
enihow do i see my intel hd 4000 has the right drivers installed? When i was scrolling on a browser it was "crashing" and top told me xorg was eating 70% cpu09:49
kunjiisasha_: Considering how many more gpt drives we're seeing with Win8 out09:50
senchatheadmin, yeah, like the workspace switcher, but not with 3d effects09:50
senchatheadmin, a pager just shows all the desktops and you can click on them individually to bring them up09:50
ThreepwoodAxio: is it a zombie process or a really active one?09:50
theadminsencha: Oh. I thought you were refering to a program like less or more09:50
AxioThreepwood: I have no idea09:50
meltylol09:51
isasha_kunji: I'm pretty sure I didn't touch windows 8 with a 10 foot pole & that hard drive :P09:51
senchaoh, my fonts are a little blurry too09:51
isasha_http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632475/09:51
senchaI've tried install gnome-tweak-tools and changing the hinting, but they're still kinda blurry compared to my old slackware install09:51
senchaplus they're "fatter"09:51
kunjieni: Hmm, I think with modprobe, but you could have the right ones installed and still be having problems.  So you should check the x logs in /var/log for error messages etc..09:51
kunjiisasha_: Doesn't have to be win8 though, that's just the cause for my seeing so many lately09:51
AxioThreepwood: right now I am on 3.5 on 12.04, lirc works fine. How come it stops working with 3.8?09:52
isasha_kunji: oh well. So what do I do?09:52
kunjiisasha_: Pastebin that other command for me,  sudo parted -l09:52
enikunji, where exactly in var log?09:52
isasha_kunji: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632475/09:52
ThreepwoodAxio: I have no idea, I am not a kernel expert, just thought it is strange you couldn't kill the process09:53
kunjieni: Any of the logs with an x in the name I think, the one with the 0 as well has the most recent logs I think09:53
kunjiisasha_: huh, that's weird, nothing under File System.  Are you running a GUI?  If so, try using gparted.  Install it with sudo apt-get install gparted09:55
enikunji, it looks fairly ok to me09:56
dydzEz2vmware doesnt load grub, does virtual box by oracle load grub?09:56
kunjiisasha_: Or we can just go ahead and try mounting it as ntfs and see if it works.  NTFS is usually my first bet when people are having trouble with permissions on drives(because it does not respect posix permissions).09:56
dydzEz2oh it does, i remember09:56
isasha_kunji: well the drive is already mounted... btw, installing gparted now09:57
enikunji, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632484/09:57
enikunji, Xorg.0.log09:57
ArvenduHelllo guys09:59
isasha_kunji: it's hfs+09:59
kunjieni:Is this the boot it failed on still?  Or have you rebooted since?  Maybe check the older logs if you have any.10:00
Arvenduneed some help guys10:00
kunjiisasha_: Oh... mac drive10:00
isasha_indeed10:00
isasha_please don't lecture me10:00
julian__hi everyone. i've recently installed ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop (toshiba satellite pro l500-1t1), and everything just worked fine, including changing the display brightness. then after the first upgrades (just ran the update manager), the display brightness seems is not changed anymore when using the hotkeys, even though the notification still pops up. i've tried various methods i've read on the forums, none of them worked. is there10:00
julian__anything i can do to fix or troubleshoot this?10:00
kunjiisasha_: Sorry, I have no idea what your knowledge is on any particular topic10:01
kunjiisasha_: In that case it should be respecting normal posix permissions though, so it's a matter of setting them with chmod I would think10:01
Arvenduwhich ubuntu version is best for my laptop config 2GB Ram and C2D proce10:01
kunjiArvendu: I would probably go with Lubuntu on that, I think it would handle standard Ubuntu, but it wouldn't be as snappy.10:02
Arvenduk but i already have windows in c drive can i install ubuntu in D drive ?10:04
kunjiArvendu: Absolutely, make sure to move out any data you need to keep first though :P  (I'm assuming D drive is an HD and not a cdrom, floppy, or the like, though installing to external HDs works as well).10:06
kunjiArvendu: Or even to usb drives, though they aren't made for the sort of file access operating systems do, so using one for that could shorten it's life considerably.10:06
Arvenduyea  ofc ...:P and what about License validity @ kunji10:07
kamilcześć10:07
kamilHi10:07
kunjiArvendu: What license validity?  That is, what license?10:07
kamil  10:08
zetherookunji: I ask because my Dad does this with Acrobat Pro and I have not yet found anything for Linux that does this10:08
Arvendulike windows have 30 days free trail somthing like that ?10:08
Tex_NickArvendu:  linux/ubuntu is open source ... nope no trials :)10:08
rasinhi guys, ive got a laptop with no cd drive, and i've not got a usb pen drive, but am running ubuntu 12.10 but i would like to do a fresh install. is there any other way I can do it? I have the .iso..10:09
Arvendutx then downloadin start 12.0410:09
kunjiArvendu: Ah, Ubuntu uses an open source license (I forget which one though), but it's completely free, you can use it basically as you wish.10:09
Arvenduwhich one is better 12.04 or 12.10 ..10:09
kunjiArvendu: Umm, one thing to be careful of is if you live in a country that bans the import of encryption algorithms.10:09
kunjiArvendu: Neither is better per se, they have different purposes.10:10
MonkeyDustArvendu  12.04 has longer support, but they're both good10:10
kunjiArvendu: 12.04 is an LTS release, so it will  generally be more stable, and it will be supported for I think 5 years10:10
Arvendui just want to use for basic purpose ...like surfing watching videos etc10:10
kunjiArvendu: 12.10 is the newer version, and it not LTS, so I think it is supported for 2 years (I might be remembering wrong though).  There is a new release every 6 months.10:11
kunjiArvendu: And a new LTS (Long Term Support) release every 2 years.10:11
dydzEz2!grub10:12
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)10:12
Arvendubut i do not want mess like crap windows 8 :( thats why i am asking :D which is good 12.04 or 12.1010:12
kunjiArvendu: They're both good ^_^10:12
Arvenduthen let me try 12.10 :D10:12
Arvenduwill mine wifi and other driver will automatically install ?10:13
kunjiArvendu: Usually, there are some cases where they do not, but they work out of the box on like 95% of the hardware I try these days.10:13
kunjiArvendu: Wireless is what people have trouble with most often10:14
ThreepwoodArvendu: you can also try it via the live CD, I think10:14
Arvenduyea10:14
Arvendui have dell 152510:14
Arvenduwhich is a bit older10:14
Tex_NickArvendu:  you'll need to decide on a 32 or 64 bit version ... guess you have already looked at ... http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop10:15
Arvenduyes i am downloading 32 bit or i386 iso10:15
Arvenduubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso10:15
UmairHi guys!10:22
Tex_NickUmair : hello ... ask your question10:25
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Guest93646Can I resize the root partition which  without uninstalling and reinstalling Linux (or losing data)?10:26
UmairTex_Nick: I'm upto fresh Ubuntu 12.10 install on VM and need to set it up for Python dev so what should my next steps be? I need Python 2.7 with PyPy and VirtualEnv10:26
sumit_hi10:28
Tex_NickUmair:  sorry i can't answer that question ... now that you've asked though ... maybe someone can help you :-)10:28
troulouliou_devhi i have a script to redirect command outut to /dev/null like this    LOG=/dev/null && my_command >> $LOG, what value can i aasign to LOG to redirect it on screen10:29
troulouliou_dev>> 1 maybe ?10:30
Kagliostrohi everyone guys. I am running ubuntu 12.04 on ASUS P8z77-v with intel i7. Everything runs smoothly and it is a really good distro, however my sound is crackling all the time....very noisy...10:30
Kagliostrocan someone help me?10:30
dydzEz2anyone run ubuntu on vmware10:32
dydzEz2know how to make grub show10:32
HaliteIs there a channel for Ubuntu Quickly10:35
Halitelet me try #quickly10:35
ikoniaubuntu quickly ?10:36
uni4dfxIs there a way to list all 32bit installed packages?10:36
UmairTex_Nick: no worries let me try again with another question10:37
Ben64uni4dfx: "dpkg -l | grep 386" ?10:37
UmairSo on ubuntu 12.10 after "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" how to install build-essentials so I may proceed to pyhton and its tools10:37
uni4dfxBen64 yeah that works. thanks!10:38
Ben64sudo apt-get install build-essential :|10:38
cscsabahello10:39
UmairBen64: it gives me dependency error (dpkg needed but it is not going to be installed)10:39
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cscsabais there any good tablet to use Ubuntu and its command line ?10:39
Ben64Umair: then your system seems pretty broken10:40
UmairBen64: yeah. see I just downloaded ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso from their site and installed it without installing any third-party software on VitualBox10:43
Umairwhat I don't understand is which of my step broke it?10:43
piglithow can i list everything that is in the PATH ?10:43
keplerenv10:44
ubuntu__Can I resize the root partition without uninstalling and reinstalling Linux (or losing data)?10:46
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Halitehalp10:47
Halite#quickly is not in use10:48
ZeXx86I dont understand, why Ubuntu still offer 310 nvidia driver instead of 313 and its even in experimental10:49
HaliteHow can you hibernate a computer running Ubuntu10:49
llutzpiglit:  ls -l  $(echo $PATH|sed 's/:/ /g')10:50
UmairBen64: So how can I fix broken packages there?10:50
Halite!patience10:50
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/10:50
HaliteHow can you hibernate a computer running Ubuntu10:51
Dead-iHalite: There's a documentation article on it https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html10:52
piglitllutz thank you10:53
piglitwhen i want to use my usb port for a microcontroller flash device i get libusb:error [op_open] libusb couldn't open USB device /dev/bus/usb/003/002: Permission denied.  i need to change the permisions of the device what is the best way to do this?10:53
humans63!list10:56
ubottuhumans63: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».10:56
llutzpiglit: create an udev-rule to set gid/permissions10:59
humans63!lista11:00
ubottuhumans63: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».11:00
MonkeyDusthumans63  stop11:00
llutzpiglit: like done here, adjust to your situation http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198591511:00
jeyemhi im new to ubuntu, just want to ask something11:06
ikoniajeyem: just ask11:06
jeyemi have a lenovo think pad, i tried installing the new VMw are and i did try everything in the ubuntu forums but i still get the message that my system doesnt support 64x11:07
ranxi_hello i have a problem with my graphic card. I am totally new to ubuntu. I was trying to install the proper ati drivers and it looks like i totally screwed up. Now i can't see my desktop. Going into terminal and this channel have been all i could do.11:10
M4573R.11:11
M4573Rcan i have" ntfs" partitions beside "ext4" partitions in gnu/linux?11:14
theadminM4573R: Sure11:14
theadminM4573R: You can't install to NTFS or FAT though (needs to be a UNIX filesystem), but you can access about any filesystem imaginable11:15
theadminranxi_: sudo apt-get remove fglrx\*11:15
theadminranxi_: That will roll you back to the default driver11:15
jeyemquestion admin, is there a way to install the new VMware even if my system doesnt support 64x11:16
theadminjeyem: I dunno about VMWare. Why not use Virtualbox? It works fine on 32-bit systems.11:16
ranxi_can i do these without quitting irc?11:16
kunjiranxi: What did you do to try and install them?11:16
theadminranxi_: uh, sure, don't see why not11:16
jeyemi did but the backtrack linux distro doesnt have an image in virtualbox11:17
M4573R...which is better?   (i mean for best performance  ) erase all my disk and change file system to "ext4"  or keep 2 partitions "ntfs" beside ?11:17
theadminjeyem: Don't need one, just grab the ISO and boot the Virtualbox VM from it11:17
kunjiranxi: Can you view this page someplace?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/206228/compiz-has-broken-after-installing-12-10-with-ati-catalyst-12-10-drivers  If so, follow the directions for Uninstalling the ATI driver, assuming it was installed.11:18
jeyemthanks bro11:18
theadminM4573R: ext4 performs better than NTFS for sure.11:18
ranxi_kunji: actually i have tried everything i have found on the issue. Including creating my debpackage which i have downloaded atis website.11:19
M4573Rso you suggest ext4 file system for all disk?11:19
kunjiranxi: So your graphics is probably it really bad shape, so REMOVE the proprietary driver.11:19
theadminM4573R: Depends on other things really. Does the disk need to be readable by Windows?11:20
Umairhow to fix broken system packages on 12.10?11:20
ranxi_theadmin: how can i do this?11:20
fatimahello can anyone help me please?11:20
theadminranxi_: Just enter the command into any terminal you can access11:20
Alocersudo apt-get install -f11:20
ranxi_kunji: and how should i do this?11:21
UmairAlocer: it says 2 no upgraded11:21
kunjiranxi: I linked the site, under the header Uninstall ATI driver,   sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fgl..... etc..11:21
Alocersudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade11:22
M4573Rno i don't want to have windows!11:22
fatimaI'm trying to enter the world f Ubuntu for the first time and I instaled it on an Asus A6, but now I'm not able to have wireless. Can Anyone help me?11:22
Umair0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded11:22
ranxi_kunji: ok thanks. I am trying now.11:22
MonkeyDust!wifi | fatima start here11:22
ubottufatima start here: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:22
Alocer:X why wireless on ubuntu is to trouble some11:22
Alocerso*11:22
jeyemadmin last question, my laptop uses a broadcom driver and i found out many of us are having problems in regards to wifi connection, we get disconnected every 20 - 30 mins. in the forums the ask us to change the router from N to b or g but nothing changes we still get disconnected11:23
UmairAlocer: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded11:23
Umairwith update and upgrade11:23
Alocerok sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:23
M4573Rtheadmin           .....i don't want to have windows ........i want just instal gnu/linux11:23
theadminjeyem: Huh. I had no such problems with broadcom drivers... Dunno11:23
kunjiranxi: Also, one of the methods you tried may have been a working method, but may have failed because of changes made by things you had already tried that didn't work.  So for this kind of thing, try only one thing at a time, and make sure to undo everything before trying then next one.11:23
theadminM4573R: Okay, then just make the whole drive ext411:23
jeyemoh ok11:23
theadminM4573R: Well, actually, better go for two ext4 partitions (/ and /home) and one swap.11:24
M4573Rwhat about (/var) do you suggest ext4 for it?or something else?11:24
UmairAlocer: it's downloading those 2 missing packages11:24
kunjijeyem: Is that particular to 12.04?  Or rather the kernel in 12.04?11:24
theadminM4573R: I don't see any reason to put /var on a separate filesystem, actually...11:25
jeyemkunji: i really dont know, tried everything i was able to read but it seems that nothing works.11:25
kunjijeyem: Were you searching for exactly your chip?11:26
wooHow could I take a snapshot of my current operating system in order to restore it later?11:26
jeyemi was able to install the wireless firmware11:26
UmairAlocer: you think I'm good to do apt-get install build-essential now?11:27
ranxi_theadmin: i have tried and i received an error. It says "there are no instances of module fglrx.11:27
kunjiwoo: ddrescue or dd_rescue, umm, one of them is gnu ddrescue, both should work, the gnu version is a bit better.11:27
opalepatricktrying to copy windows docs from ntfs via ubuntu to external hard drive. If I drag and drop, it looks like its done the job, but plugged into a windows laptop there is just one file. I tried cp via terminal but get cp: omitting directory the one I want to copy) any ideas?11:27
theadminopalepatrick: cp -r11:27
M4573Rok good ..............thanx11:27
wooty kunji11:27
opalepatrickdoh theadmin11:28
kunjijeyem: Right, but it's dropping, correct?11:28
theadminranxi_: Uh, that doesn't look like an error, more of a warning to me11:28
jeyemyes11:28
theadminranxi_: Try rebooting and see if it works now11:28
jeyemi tried restart the network-manager after i get disconnected, but its a fail11:29
kunjijeyem: Searching the exact device will make it much easier to find any existing bug report for the card, or if there is not one, then it is information that should be provided as part of a bug report11:29
UmairAlocer: tried installing build-essential and it's giving same error "Depends: dpkg-dev (>= 1.13.5) but it is not going to be installed"11:29
jeyemkunji: ok ill search for that. thanks bro11:30
ranxi_theadmin: alright. I hope i will be back here if it does not work.11:31
wookunji: so apt-get install ddrescue -> dd_rescue && apt-get install gddrescue -> ddrescue.  :)11:31
kunjijeyem: You can find the device in the output of lspci for pci cards, or in lsusb for dongles11:31
kunjiwoo: Oh, you don't need them both, I would go with just ddrescue11:32
M4573Rtheadmin ........and what a bout partitions if i want to have 2 distros...is it better that i installeach of them to 1 partition ( for example:ubuntu in /sda1 and arch in /sda2)with seperate " /home"?11:32
M4573R:)11:33
wookunji: I used apt-get autoremove ddrescue and kept the gnu11:33
theadminM4573R: The idea is to have different / and the same /home, actually, for example: /dev/sda1 -> arch's /, /dev/sda2 -> Ubuntu's /, /dev/sda3 -> /home (for both)11:33
fatimaI'm not understanding how to do it!11:33
wookunji: im on the gnu site learning about it.11:33
theadminM4573R: That way you can keep application configuration across distros (browser bookmarks, history, etc)11:34
M4573Rok...nice11:34
kunjiwoo: That would be my preferred tool, there's lots of other stuff as well though11:34
kunji!backup | woo11:34
ubottuwoo: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning11:34
M4573Rand if i want to remove on of distros   which is better (shared home....or seperate home)?11:35
khussein78can I run two applications using X over ssh tunnel11:35
khussein78at the same time11:35
kunjikhussein78: yes11:35
theadminM4573R: Won't matter11:35
fatimaI'm trying to enter the world f Ubuntu for the first time and I instaled it on an Asus A6, but now I'm not able to have wireless. Can Anyone help me? Hi really don't know how to do it11:36
theadminM4573R: There's nothing distro-specific at all stored in /home11:36
wookunji: im going to use kickstart and ddrescue.  If I remember last time I used kickstart on an ubuntu machine I messed it up.11:36
l057c0d3rwell..  grew a pair..  resized my windows partition...  installed a ubuntu minimal install...  and installed everything i wanted..11:37
l057c0d3rfinally finished :-) fully custom splash/ grub / gdm / ext ext...11:37
M4573Rgood for you :)11:37
l057c0d3rthanks M4573R.. i now have a fully custom setup..  looking and running everything i want....  with the power of ubuntu and apt11:38
M4573Rwelcome to FREE WORLD :D11:39
dimitrylolo11:41
dimitryi am here11:41
M4573Rtanx "theadmin" for information....and tanx for gave me your time11:42
dimitryanybody use this chanel for conversasion? or just for testing your irc client?)))))11:45
M4573Rwe love to learn....we share our Knowledge....we are   LINUX       :D11:45
marahinpeople rather use it for answering ubuntu users / newbies questions11:45
M4573Ri'm a noob too!11:45
gvoubuntu-offtopic for discussions11:45
gvodimitry: ^^^11:46
marahin↑ even.11:46
marahin:)11:46
Umairno one answers my questions at fullest :(11:46
marahinUmair, try to ask it in a different way then?11:46
dimitryok ok ok11:46
Umairlet me try again. I need to install a python package which can be installed with PyPy but it gives me gcc error11:48
UmairI read I need build-essential for that but then build-essential gives me dependency errors dpkg11:48
gvoUmair: ubuntu version?11:49
Umair12.10 (quantal) i38611:49
JpmhI am running lubuntu from a memory stick - it tells me that it is 11:49 because I have not set the timezone, I assume.  How di I set it.  I am in Denver CO which  is on Mountaint time11:50
gvoHave you done a apt-get update recently?11:50
moehello world11:50
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UmairI have done apt-get update and upgrade like a ton times11:50
Guest72577I'm a noob looking to get help with my ubuntu 12.1011:50
Guest72577any one who can help?11:51
gvoUmair: Have you edited your sources.list?11:51
UmairI haven't edited sources.list but I have taken a look at it11:51
Umairthere are links without #11:51
HaliteHelloo11:51
lasersGuest72577: We're waiting for real questions.11:51
martinPLhi! I have this problem, I copied some files with command line, and they have invalid permissions - I need to change their permissions - I can list them all with "find . -type f -user username" but I dont know how to pass the result to "chmod 664 RESULTS", can you suggest me a solution for that? (btw the list is very long...)11:51
HaliteI like Ubuntu11:52
Guest72577ok I have problems with libflac++6:amd6411:52
gvoUmair: As a last resort, you could use  dkpg adding --ignore-depends11:52
jonahhi can anyone help, I've just rebooted and now anytime I use sudo I get this error: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)11:52
dayi installed ubuntu 12.10. after installing the restricted graphic driver + restart i get a pretty low monitor resolution + all i see is the desktop background. no docks/menues nothing. does anyone know whats wrong?11:53
jonahbut as far as I know nothign else is using admin rights...11:53
Guest72577almost everything i do on terminal returns errors Errors were encountered while processing:11:53
Guest72577 libflac++6:amd6411:53
theadminjonah: That has nothing to do with sudo... You sure you don't mean apt-get?11:53
Umairgvo: can you tell me why this is happening because ignoring depends is not a good option I think11:53
gvoUmair: But it could break something.11:53
jonahtheadmin: Hi yes but I mean I can't install anything as it says something already has the admin lock11:53
* Halite happy11:54
gvoUmair: I can't say for sure.   I haven't run across it, but then Im not running 12.1011:54
Guest72577lasers?11:54
Umairgvo: which version are you running?11:54
daygvo: what are you running?11:54
gvo12.04 and 10.0411:54
jonahtheadmin: also does it with aptitude, so something has locked my dpkg...11:54
lasersmartinPL: With find's -exec *command* -- Maybe? Or use xargs.11:54
Umairgvo: which is better of them?11:54
theadminjonah: Try removing that file (sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock) and then running sudo apt-get -f install11:55
Guest72577lasers?11:55
daygvo: yeah the longterm version work really well.11:55
Guest72577any one?11:55
gvoUmair: Both are lts 12.04 is newer if you replace Unity with something reasonable.11:55
gvoday yes11:55
Guest72577Errors were encountered while processing:11:55
Guest72577 libflac++6:amd6411:55
Guest72577that's my problem11:56
Guest72577what do i do?11:56
UmairI will try 12.04 now then11:56
gvoUmair: If you plan on running it for a while stay with an lts.  It's supported for 5 years (12.04 is)11:56
yeehawGuest72577: Could you paste the complete log?11:56
Guest72577ok11:56
yeehawGuest72577:  Via paste.ubuntu.com11:57
kunjimartinPL: Are all the files in one folder?11:57
Umairyeah. I'm likely to use it for a while11:57
dayi installed ubuntu 12.10. after installing the restricted graphic driver + restart i get a pretty low monitor resolution + all i see is the desktop background. no docks/menues nothing. does anyone know whats wrong?11:57
Umairbut if it works that's what I want11:57
Guest72577moe@moe-Ubuntu12:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`11:57
Guest72577Reading package lists... Done11:57
Guest72577Building dependency tree11:57
Guest72577Reading state information... Done11:57
Guest72577The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:11:57
FloodBot1Guest72577: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:57
Guest72577  linux-headers-3.5.0-1711:57
ikoniaGuest72577: that's not "everything you do" that's a very specific commmand11:58
jonahtheadmin: hi thanks, that's got it unlocked but now when I do sudo apt-get intall phpmyadmin I get this error: error processing phpmyadmin (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1. debconf: DbDriver "templatedb": /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable11:58
Umairyou know why Ubuntu will never compete with Mac OS X? It's because things doesn't work out of documentation like they work on Mac OS X.11:58
jonahtheadmin: debconf: DbDriver "passwords" warning: /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat is locked by another process11:58
ikoniaGuest72577: and PLEASE use a pastebin as you've been asked11:58
yeehawday: Try fully updating 12.1011:58
martinPLkunji, no, the files are in a whole structure (many folders with subfolders)11:58
theadminjonah: Well, woah. This is messed up...11:58
jonahtheadmin: is that bad?11:58
theadminjonah: Not quite sure what to do.11:58
kunjimartinPL: Are they all under one top level folder though?11:58
dayyeehaw: i apt-get update/upgrade the system right after the fresh install11:59
theadminAnyway, I gotta go now.11:59
jonahtheadmin: ok thanks anyway11:59
kunjimartinPL: Or a few?  Because then you could run chmod recursively11:59
daydid*11:59
ikoniaGuest72577: you've been unmuted now11:59
Halitewhy are there 3 flood bots11:59
ikoniabecause that's how many is needed to run the channel12:00
yeehawday: I had the same problem initially, you can use ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal an do sudo apt-get update -qq && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y12:00
Halitemy12:00
martinPLkunji, oh, I thought of that, but I cannot use this, within the structure there are also other files that I dont want to edit - I only what to edit those of particular user12:00
kunjimartinPL: Hmm, and you already have the list of file names?12:00
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Guest72577http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632764/12:01
Guest88890hello12:01
dayyeehaw: what would that change? ive already updated everything :/12:01
Guest88890i need help12:01
ikoniaGuest72577: right, so lets get some facts first12:01
Guest88890can you see this page mzt-chiwas.sytes.net12:01
Guest88890?12:01
ikoniaGuest72577: is it "every command" as you first said, or is it just when you try to use apt-get12:01
ikoniaGuest88890: why ?12:01
Guest88890mmm12:02
Guest72577hold on let me try ikonia12:02
Guest88890hey12:02
marahinkunji, he said that he can list the files he need to change with find.12:02
Guest88890okey12:02
Guest88890ok12:02
yeehawday: please post the output of the following commands to paste.ubuntu.com: dpkg -l | egrep -i 'nvidia|fglrx'12:02
Guest88890gracias12:02
ikoniaGuest88890: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/12:02
M4573R.12:02
yeehawday: And what videocard do you have?12:02
HelmuthonianHi, I try to install the connman-0.78. But after running .\configure I get the dependency failed on DBUS. But aptitude gives me DBUS is installed.12:02
kunjimarahin: Thanks, I missed that part12:02
marahin"I can list them all with "find . -type f -user username" but I dont know how to pass the result to "chmod 664 RESULTS""12:02
dayyeehaw: nvidia gtx 66012:02
marahinkunji, np.12:02
Guest88890what is?12:03
Guest88890help12:03
gvoHelmuthonian: I suspect you're missing a development package.12:03
Guest72577it happens with apt-get12:03
Helmuthoniangvo: oooo I'll try this thanks12:04
gvoHelmuthonian: Look for a xxx-dev where xxx is the dbus lib/program that's missing.12:04
kunjimartinPL:Well this isn't the best way I'm sure, but you could use sed to turn that list into a file containing lines that each say: chmod 664 filename;  Then make the file executable and run it to change the permissions.12:04
ikoniaGuest72577: right, so that's a different question than what you asked12:04
gvoHelmuthonian: Usually when ./configure throws an error its a missing -dev package.12:05
yeehawGuest72577: Did you try an apt-get update before installing?12:05
Guest72577ok how do i fix it12:05
Guest72577?12:05
Guest72577yes i tried that12:05
ikoniaGuest72577: have you run the auto-remove as the error suggested ?12:05
Guest72577yes i tried12:05
martinPLkunji, I have just tried the find -exec and it seems to work - the file list is really long so it hasnt finished yet, but no errors so far ;) thanks for the help12:05
Guest72577didnt work12:05
M4573Rin gnu/linux partitioning we have /root.. /home.. /var ..  i know this... but i don;t know where should i keep  "for exmaple my musics".......in home or different seperate partition?12:06
Guest88890ikonia: Gracias!12:06
ikoniaGuest72577: I don't see that in your pastebin12:06
kunjimartinPL: Ah, that seems like a better way, nice ^_^12:06
yeehawM4573R: In /home/username/12:06
Guest72577line 43012:06
Helmuthoniangvo: Thanks I install now libedbus-dev and run .\config again. Thanks for help12:07
ikoniaGuest72577: ok, did you try to re-install libflac++6 as the error said12:07
Guest72577i tried too12:07
Guest72577line 39212:07
gvoHelmuthonian: By the way it's ./configure12:08
gvo./config12:08
Star_LightIs there any person who is responsible about the rooms here?12:08
gvoNo backslash12:08
ikoniaStar_Light: what's the problem12:08
Star_Lightikonia I have an unfair ban from one channel12:08
Star_Lightone year ago12:08
ikoniaGuest72577: so try removing libflac++6:amd64 and ubuntu kernel channel12:08
makarahi. again with Nautilus, 2 things. It is possible to hide the folder pane instead of the tree pane?12:08
yeehawGuest72577: You could try purging it, with dpkg --purge libflac++6:amd6412:08
ikoniaStar_Light: if you join #ubuntu-ops we can talk about it12:08
Star_Lightok thank you12:09
Guest72577how do i remove libflac and kernel channel?12:09
kunjiikonia: I thought #freenode dealt with that stuff?12:09
Star_LightI am going to ubuntu-ops12:09
ikoniakunji: not the ubuntu channels, no12:09
ikoniaGuest72577: just put them on one line for remove of purge12:09
M4573Rso i should divide my Disk to these : dev/sda1/(root & boot & /var  )        dev/sda2 (home)   no needed seperate partitions for keeping our files?12:10
kunjiikonia: Generally I mean, it wasn't clear to me it was an Ubuntu channel he was talking about.12:10
ikoniakunji: me neither, but we'll find out when he joins #ubuntu-ops12:10
kunjiikonia: yeps ^_^12:10
yeehawM4573R: What are you planning on using Ubuntu for? As a Desktop?12:10
Guest72577tried purge returns error12:10
ikoniaM4573R: /root should not be a seperate partition12:10
Guest72577package is in a very bad incosistent state12:10
M4573Rso what ikonia.........?12:11
ikoniaGuest72577: try running it through the gui12:11
ikoniaM4573R: so don't put it on a sepreate partition12:11
Guest72577which gui?12:11
ikoniaGuest72577: whatever package manager gui you are using12:11
Guest72577ok thanks let me try12:11
Star_Lightikonia,  there is no one in the room :(12:12
gvoGuest72577: sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq12:12
ikoniaStar_Light: try again12:12
ikoniaStar_Light: yes there is, it's #ubuntu-ops12:12
Guest72577GUI cant remove it either12:12
makaraand why whenever I open Nautilus does the name column always expand way off to the right. I always have to scroll and reduce12:13
gvoGuest72577: Try that12:14
gvomakara: Do you have a very long name in the list?12:14
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M4573Rikonia ......... i have a disk...right? and i want to have just ubuntu(and not alongside with windows) sould i have seperated partitions for keeping  my files or this is not necessary?12:15
ikoniaM4573R: totally up to you12:16
ikoniapros/cons to both12:16
M4573Rwhich way is better?12:16
Guest72577thanks very much ikonia it worked12:16
ikoniaM4573R: totally up to you12:16
Guest72577and thanks gvo12:16
ikoniaGuest72577: it was gvo that helped12:16
Guest72577ok thanks both of you :)12:16
yeehawikonia: What cons are there to using seperate partitions? I think it would be advisable to keep /home on a separate partition at least12:17
makaragvo, kindof12:18
kunjiM4573R: I would recommend it myself, for two reasons.  It can simplify backing up just your user data, and if you're installing more than one distro they can share the same /home partition.12:18
wdpyeehaw, ack.12:18
ikoniayeehaw: totally up to you12:18
ikonia /home should not be shared between different distros12:18
gvomakara: it's doing a resize based on the length of the file name.  Rename the file.12:18
ikoniathe different versions of gnome and shells in /home should not be shared12:18
makaragvo, when I go to another folder it doesn't resize the column again12:19
makaragvo, but sometimes it does. Inconsistent12:19
kunjiikonia: Oh, hmm, interesting12:19
mirakhi12:19
miraki changed my cdrom drive, and now it seems it's referenced as /dev/cdrom1 instead of /dev/cdrom12:19
disharmonicWell the con for separate partitions is that it's harder to manage your diskspace that way.12:20
gvomakara: Sounds like a bug.12:21
yeehawikonia: Ok, I see your point.12:21
kunjiikonia: You mean for the same DE right?  Because for different ones I don't see how it would be different than having multiple DEs installed on one distro.12:21
makarait would be great if I could set the column size no matter what the content. I want an explorer that feels solid.12:21
ikoniakunji: doesn't have to be the de - the .profile for the shell, the .compiz directory etc etc12:22
makaratrying to resize the tree pane is also a pain. The new space-saving scrollbar keeps popping up12:23
kunjiikonia: Hmm, I see what you mean12:23
matlockguys, i got ubuntu up on an eeepad12:23
JpmhI have a running ubuntu system.  I have a working usb stick with lubuntu which seems rather good.  How do I install it side by side with my ubuntu on my hard drive?12:23
matlockbut it's the SL 101, and the onboard keyboard don't work12:23
matlockany help?12:23
yeehawmatlock: If I look at the other people on the internet who have tried it, your probably out of luck. What does lsusb give you? (via paste.ubuntu.com please)12:26
matlockheh12:27
matlockcan't internet on it12:27
matlockbut it's just got the root hub12:27
yeehawmatlock: Do you have any information about how it's connected?12:28
woowhy are static repos for fedora .gov's?12:28
matlockno clue, lshw doesn't show much either12:28
matlockdoesn't even show the wifi right now..12:29
matlocktis okay, i'm on xda-developers askin the same, probably get better luck there, there are a few others with an SL101 too.12:30
Guest74003I FEEL Linux is very very Hard compared to Windows12:30
bastidra1orthere is a learning curve.12:30
Guest74003That's why.If i use Windows it's not like that....All user need to learn Linux12:31
wooGuest74003: I feel Windows is a lot harder for me.  It has so many requirments to run properly12:31
kunjiGuest74003: I feel you've never tried installing Windows....12:31
yeehawmatlock: http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/28379/where-are-android-drivers-located-in-the-system Says that you would probably need to recompile the keyboard driver in the kernel12:31
yeehawmatlock: You will probably need help from xda-developers indeed then12:31
Malinuss"next - next - next " - windows installed12:31
Guest74003i have installed windows serveral times12:32
kunjiMalinuss:And it wrote over your MBR without asking12:32
F1skrDo you people use a ppa to install catalyst drivers or do just get it from amd.com ?12:32
kunjiMalinuss:And that's assuming you didn't need some other driver12:32
matlockhmm, i wonder if there's anything to the Linux4Tegra associated with this then.. thx for the thread man!!12:32
kunjiF1skr: I typically use the driver in the repos, unless there was a security fix, or some particular reason I should use a newer driver than that.12:33
wooI had a problem I didnt fix today took someone eles.  new asrock board. win couldnt read ssd raid 1. fedo 18 popped right up :)  sorry for the ot.  Guest74003 might want to try ubuntu-offtopic for more windows bashing fun.12:34
Guest74003And Linux is really Confusing and Boring since all the end-user need to know all12:35
OerHeksGuest74003 do you have an ubuntu support question ?12:36
kunjiOerHeks: Even if he does, he's intentionally trolling (my opinion, but quite likely).12:37
yeehawGuest74003: Untrue, If you configure it properly everyone could work with Ubuntu12:37
Guest74003<yeehaw> what to configure12:37
kunjiGuest74003: My grandma uses Ubuntu12:37
Guest74003<kunji> O^o12:38
16WAAEUPBMy grandma uses AIX.12:38
kunjiGuest74003: Only configuring I had to do was enlarge the mouse cursor so she could see it better.12:38
wookunji: http://garbledzombie.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/your-grandma-can-do-it/linux-motivational-poster/12:38
kunjiwoo: That site isn't loading for me T.T12:39
woo:(12:39
BluesKajHowdy all12:39
kunjiwoo: Ah, there it goes ^_^12:40
Guest74003my bro work all day in ubuntu dev s/w some point in time got some cash from US Govt ...For me Where to Start ?!12:40
matlockjust wondering, can i pull the modules from the source of the android kernel and compile it for ubuntu?12:40
kunjiGuest74003: Sounds like you should ask your bro12:40
Guest74003<kunji> I thought this a open chat room ...Who will help beginners12:41
yeehawmatlock: I'm no developer, but it should be possible. I think you would have dependency problems because of different versions e.g..12:42
matlockkay12:42
mand_Hi, how can I remove entries from the Unity launcher? Somehow it imported old gnome panel custom launchers during upgrade and now is too stupid to keep them apart12:42
kunjiGuest74003: It is, but you should really have a particular question in mind.  I would say it's more of a support channel than open chat, open chat would be in #ubuntu-offtopic12:42
wooGuest74003: try #freenode to set up your username and password for IRC12:42
mand_eg. I start a gnome terminal and it thinks I started a custom vnc session12:42
mand_Just because my custom VNC launcher also uses Gnome terminal12:43
Guest74003:)12:43
16WAAEUPBI believe that Android uses a forked Linux kernel and I'm not really sure they're fully compatible at all.12:43
kunjimatlock: Why would you want to do that?  It's possible, but the devices would be ARM, so what good would compiling them amd64 or i386 do?  Unless there's a particular piece of hardware from your phone you want to use on your desktop install.12:44
matlockwell Linux for Tegra uses the 12.04 filesystem, and I'm wondering if that would help me at all.. or if i'm barking up the wrong tree.12:44
16WAAEUPB12.04 filesystem?..12:44
matlockyea.. hold on12:44
16WAAEUPBWhat's that supposed to mean? =)12:44
matlockhttps://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra12:44
disharmonicYou mean ext4 by that?12:44
matlockSample file system (derived from Ubuntu 12.04, "Precise Pangolin")12:45
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Guest74003Guys where to start learning Linux ..How to work on it ??...Is there any Class ..Like that :)12:45
staktso, I just did a typo in a chroot enviro "yum install yum install" now yum is hosed.  I went to mirror site and tried to rpm -ivh yum-3.2.29-30.el6.centos.noarch.rpm but it fails12:45
kunjimatlock: Wrong tree pal12:45
matlocki know technically it's unsupported here,12:45
stakterror: yum-3.2.29-30.el6.centos.noarch.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID c105b9de: BAD12:45
stakterror: yum-3.2.29-30.el6.centos.noarch.rpm cannot be installed12:45
makaragvo, Marlin looks cool. It lays out thumbnails much better12:46
kunjimatlock: I'm pretty sure they are referring to the machine you're going to use to flash the device12:46
matlockno12:46
staktany idea on how to repair w/o rebuild the chroot?12:46
kunjimatlock: Can you link it for me then?12:46
matlockthey're talking about installing ubuntu on tegra devices12:46
matlocklink is above, the nvidia one12:46
OerHeksstakt, try #centos12:47
matlockI know there's a driver package there too, but not sure if it includes modules specific for the eeepad (most likely not)12:47
yeehawmakara: No, they are talking about installing linux on tegra devices. They happen too use the Ubuntu filesystem, but that's not kernel related. So that would not help you with the driver12:47
kunjimatlock: Oh, that, still you would not recompile for that usually.  That should be compiled for ARM, and recompiling for Ubuntu to run on that device would still be ARM12:47
16WAAEUPBmatlock, they're talking about installing their own Linux flavor using a host running Ubuntu.12:47
matlockno12:47
makarayeehaw, ok12:47
klaatu_ma cosa cazzo è12:47
kunjimatlock: The ubuntu team right now is also using the android kernel for ubuntu installs on devices, and hence the same modules12:47
matlockthey're talking about installing ubuntu 12.04 on tegra devices, using ubuntu as the host12:48
kunjimatlock: http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/13/02/07/1745220/ces-jono-bacon-talks-up-ubuntu-for-phones-video12:48
yeehawmakara: Sorry, I linked the wrong person12:48
kunjimatlock: That's what I said -_-12:48
matlock16WAAEUPB, their 'own linux flavor' is 'based on' ubuntu 12.0412:49
tapashi, is it normal that nepomuk uses 2GiB or more disk space?12:49
kunjimatlock: sure, but I'll bet they're using the android kernel, for the same reason the Ubuntu team is.  Even if not, then they're using the right one for what they're doing.12:50
matlocki'm currently using the 2.6 ubuntu kernel12:51
matlockon my eeepad12:51
jimi_Anyone know how to install ncurses php support12:51
yeehawmatlock: Can't you use the android kernel?12:51
matlockthey also have the 3.1 kernel but that method isn't working correctly right now12:51
kunjimatlock: Isn't the eeepad x86?12:51
matlockit's arm12:51
matlockarm712:51
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icerootis there an easy way to see the licence of a package with apt-get?12:52
kunjimatlock: Oh, ok, now I think I see what you're doing12:52
kunjimatlock: I'm not sure what version of ARM the Cardhu and Ventana are, so you might need to compile yourself, but the modules should run.12:53
kunjimatlock: More or less that is, there may be some device specific tweeking involved12:54
datsmoidayou guys have any idea about after i upgraded ubuntu to 12.04 mysql is running properly but i cannot log in to phpmyadmin12:54
theadminiceroot: See the answer to this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/247757/how-do-you-find-the-licenses-for-everything-installed-on-your-system12:55
kunjitapas: probably, but I don't recall for sure12:55
theadminiceroot: Not too "easy" but... yeah.12:55
disharmoniciceroot: well apt-cache doesn't display licensing info. Not sure if there is a way12:56
OerHeksiceroot " apt-cache show python " does not show license info, so i think apt-get won't show either12:56
16WAAEUPBdatsmoida, I'd start with checking the place where phpmyadmin stores it's authentication data.12:56
theadminiceroot: The license info for installed packages can generally be found in /usr/share/doc/PACKAGE/copyright12:57
OerHeksiceroot,  "The Debian control file has no field for a license title. License details for a package foo should be given in the /usr/share/doc/<foo>/copyright file" found @ http://askubuntu.com/questions/88403/how-to-list-all-my-packages-from-command-line-which-can-show-package-name-licen12:57
OerHeksshould be fixed, if you ask me12:58
kunjiiceroot: License info is often in the man page as well12:58
jonahhi does anyone know what the correct path syntax is for testing on a localhost. For example I have a website with a config.php file which I want to test locally. I've changed all refereneces to the site addrress to just be 'localhost' and then further down it has paths such as /home/public_html/system which I've tried changing to just be /system and also tried localhost/system but at the moment I'm just getting a white blank screen so12:58
jonahdefo got something wrong12:58
theadminiceroot: If that's of any help, the "vrms" tool can help detect any non-free software installed on your system.12:58
disharmonicOerHeks: i agree, it should be included in apt-cache showpkg12:58
icerootkunji: i need a generic way for all installed packages to see if they are GNU related to find out how much GNU/Linux is in Ubuntu :) i guess i will write a script to parse the local files12:59
icerootso that we will see x% of all installed default packages are GNU12:59
kunjiiceroot: Ah regexs and sed?  Fun times13:00
arandiceroot: You can use the "cupt" package manager instead, "cupt copyright packagename".13:00
icerootkunji: because of that i asked for an easy way with apt-get and so on :)13:00
icerootarand: thanks that sounds interesting13:00
kunjiiceroot: Hmm, which do you count as a default system?  With or without the checkbox for the nonfree packages?13:01
icerootkunji: a default ubuntu 12.04 unity installation13:01
16WAAEUPBOr you could write your own package manager! Now this is fun times.13:01
kunjiiceroot: Yeah, but they ask during the install, also about encryption and lvm, so I think you can end up with a few different sets of packages.13:02
icerootkunji: that is not a default installation13:03
icerootkunji: imo13:03
arandiceroot: I wouldn't suggest using cupt for normal package management though, but it's handy for that prticular thing.13:03
kunjiiceroot: Maybe the livecd is a better reference?13:03
Guest74003Only some new Linux in my Area.It's very hard if i get Stuck13:03
icerootkunji: but normally i guess the best would be to grep the complete main-repo13:03
icerootarand: i think so too13:03
Malinusshello. So I installed ubuntu "mini". And after that I installed the gnome-desktop, or was it unity-desktop? I don't remember, neverless, it looks completly like the "normal" ubunut installation. Now, is there actually any software that isn't installed there, that is installed with the normal ubuntu installation?13:04
icerootMalinuss: depending which package you installed for your desktop, if it was ubuntu-desktop  you will have the same packages as a normal installation13:04
Malinussiceroot, I think it might have been ubuntu-desktop. So right now, my installation is precisly the same, as if I just used the "normal" installation?13:05
icerootMalinuss: yes13:05
MalinussI see, thanks13:06
icerootMalinuss: the normal installation is "ubuntu-minimal", "ubuntu-base" and "ubuntu-desktop"13:06
icerootMalinuss: you are missing ubuntu-desktop on the minimal-installation13:06
icerootMalinuss: maybe minimal will be not using ubuntu-base  but ubuntu-desktop will pull that package, so its the same at the end13:07
GermainZ|PhoneHey guys, I'm having a few issues... Not sure why, probably some drivers issues. Most Fn keys have no effect (e.g. Keyboard illumination, brightness), others show popups correctly (e.g. Sound) but don't actually do anything... (sound and brightness are always locked to the max, for example). Any ideas?13:11
lerschQuestion. I am using open() to create a file and posix_fallocate() to allocate 8GB in this file. When the file is created, it says the size is 8.6 GB. I do not understand why the difference. Any ideas?13:11
jimi_lersch, because _fallocate is short for fallacy create13:12
lerschwhat do you mean?13:13
jimi_lersch, it was a joke.... "fallacy" meaning lie.... and well... create meaning create..... lol, because the output lied to you :P13:13
lerschbritish humor, I see13:13
lersch:)13:14
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iorialersch: from the latin 'fallacius' :-P13:15
theadminlersch: This isn't an Ubuntu question, this is a question for whatever programming language you are using.13:16
isaiashi13:21
isaiasHow do I login?13:22
isaiasis this supposed to automatically log me in?13:23
GermainZ|PhoneLogin where, isaias13:23
MusikPoliceHi guys, quick question here if anybody is available: I installed ubuntu 12.10 LTS headless server and then installed the unity desktop as a secondary step. It seems to have given me a minimal install, and the clock and indicator applets in the top-right hand corner of the desktop are missing. What packages do i need to restore this functionality?13:23
isaiasGermainZ|Phone: On here. I can't seem to join ##c++13:23
GermainZ|Phone /join ##c++13:24
isaiasGermainZ|Phone: It sends me to ##overflow13:24
GermainZ|PhoneAny errors?13:25
ioriaisaias: i think it requires registration13:25
pranavwhen i use sensors in bash, it gives me 2 adapter. virtual and ISA adapter. what is the difference ?13:25
GermainZ|PhoneIf you're already registered (/msg NickServ HELP REGISTER)...13:25
GermainZ|PhoneOh, you're not. Use that command, then.13:26
isaiasioria: I already registered I was connected there a few days ago13:26
arandiceroot: I gave the cupt suggestion with examples on askubuntu as well.13:26
GermainZ|PhoneAre you identified, then?13:26
khussein78I tried to run vbox over X tunnel over ssh but i got this error13:26
isaiasGermainZ|Phone: what do you mean?13:26
GermainZ|PhoneUse this command: /msg NickServ HELP IDENTIFY13:26
khussein78http://pastebin.com/YKBKcFvf13:26
pranavwhen i use sensors in bash, it gives me 2 adapter. virtual and ISA adapter. what is the difference ?13:27
isaiasGermainZ|Phone: thank you!13:29
GermainZ|PhoneYou're welcome! Usually this kind of support is better asked at #help, btw.13:29
pranavi used to add many stuffs in gnome top panel by right clicking and "add to panel" but does unity lacks this feature. there is a menu instead ?13:29
MusikPolicepranav i'm having that problem as well13:30
Malinussiceroot, okay, thanks for the clearing up. One last thing - so after installing the minimal installation, but I want the "desktop ubuntu" look, without all the software. How would I go about that? Install gnome and what more?13:30
theadminpranav: There's no such functionality in Unity, yes, applets are deprecated by GNOME3 in general. If you want functionality similar to GNOME 2, I suggest using Xubuntu (or just installing Xfce)13:30
MusikPoliceMalinuss: I've selectively installed the packages that I need, but also found a helpful guide here http://debianhelp.wordpress.com/2012/09/30/to-do-list-after-installing-ubuntu-12-10-aka-quantal-quetzal/13:31
GermainZ|Phone(reposting because a bunch of new people logged in) [15:11] (GermainZ|Phone) Hey guys, I'm having a few issues... Not sure why, probably some drivers issues. Most Fn keys have no effect (e.g. Keyboard illumination, brightness), others show popups correctly (e.g. Sound) but don't actually do anything... (sound and brightness are always locked to the max, for example). Any ideas?13:31
MusikPolicetheadmin: what about the clock and widgets that appear in the top right-hand corner of a stock install? I've done a stripped down install of the desktop, and those weren't included13:31
pranavtheadmin: MusikPolice hope it comes the next version :)13:31
theadminpranav: Will not.13:31
theadminpranav: The GNOME team got rid of applets because they want to provide simplicity and beleive too many options confuse users... and probably because  they smoke something really strong, too :/13:32
theadminpranav: Just use Xfce, it's great and looks and works almost exactly like gnome213:32
pranavbut then again the left panel in unity is so useful for stacking many icons13:33
MusikPolicetheadmin, pravnav: sounds about right. but there are some applets up there. not application specific, but for network, battery, the user menu etc. what package is that in?13:33
GermainZ|PhoneYou can do the same in xfce13:33
arandtheadmin: It's pretty easy to add custom applets via extensions though.13:33
GermainZ|PhoneYou need to add a desk bar panel if I'm not mistaken13:33
theadminMusikPolice: Look at the packages starting with "indicator-" for those. For instance, the clock is indicator-datetime13:33
MusikPolicei basically just want my clock back, and the logout/shutdown buttons13:33
MusikPolicetheadmin: thank you, i'll look into those13:34
pranavtheadmin: "indicator-" ok :)13:34
pranavwill also try xfce desktop again..13:34
pokkerfacehi all, could anyone got working sopcast or maze in ubuntu 12.10?13:35
theadminpranav: Those still don't provide the exact same functionality as gnome2 applets. Seriously, for a similar feel, just use Xfce. I'll shut up now though because I already said that 3 times and feel like I'm being annoying13:35
Em_I just installed Ubuntu 12.10, but my Wireless and Ethernet are port are not working. What am I supposed to do now?13:35
pranavtheadmin: i was a fan of lightweight xfce like 3 years before. i will try it. thanks again :)13:36
theadminpranav: :) There's a version of Ubuntu that comes with Xfce preinstalled, it's called Xubuntu -- works great for me, it's the one I use. Took a while to get U1 working on Xfce though but I got that as well :)13:36
pranavtheadmin: yup, xubuntu was the only option for me back with 256MB ram :P13:38
theadminpranav: Ouch, that sounds pretty evil13:38
GermainZ|PhoneI have xubuntu with 8gb of ram13:38
GermainZ|Phone=O13:38
theadminGermainZ|Phone: Heh, 6 here.13:38
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pranavGermainZ|Phone:  i can't wait to see the functionalities. *installing* =)13:42
Em_I just installed Ubuntu 12.10, but my Wireless and Ethernet are port are not working. What am I supposed to do now?13:42
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TrolLletHey everyone.. i have a question.. is there any way to start windows from within ubuntu? then i do NOT mean special programs or virtual boxing.. i mean to BOOT windows from within ubuntu itself?13:44
Gr0tB4gzanybody know the release date for the ubuntu phone software?'13:44
GermainZ|PhoneOctober I think13:45
war59312anyone have any ideas for why usb mouse and keyboard not working even though both show up in lsusb and both work if I use a live cd...13:45
pranavdon't you guys think that "launcher" in unity is quicker to navigate then "cairo-dock" in gnome ? views any.. i mean using the touchpad..13:45
Guest21939ciao13:45
Em_I just installed Ubuntu 12.10, but my Wireless and Ethernet are port are not working. What am I supposed to do now?13:45
Guest21939!LIST13:45
ubottuGuest21939: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».13:45
arandTrolLlet: You can set the default grub selection for next boot, if that's waht you mean?13:46
pranavdon't you guys think that "launcher" in unity is quicker to navigate then "cairo-dock" in gnome using touchpad ? *any views* ?13:47
TrolLletthen that means i need to manually reboot?13:47
Gr0tB4gzanyone have any idea if the ubuntu phone software will work with samsung galaxy s3??13:47
Jpmhhow would I install lubuntu side by side with ubuntu on my hard drive.  It looks good from the memory stick but would like to try the next step before final switch13:47
TrolLletand then it changes to windows instead of ubuntu? (that does sound like something im thinking of)13:48
pranavand for a widescreen, its just too good :D13:48
Sagitthi all13:49
Sagittthere is a way to automatic install all avviable updates with crontab or other??13:49
beanSagitt, that's usually a bad idea, imo13:50
Sagittwhy?13:50
Sagitti've isntalled only the OS and some packages13:50
cfhowlett!phone|Gr0tB4gz,13:50
ubottuGr0tB4gz,: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone13:50
llutz!info apticron | Sagitt13:50
ubottuSagitt: apticron (source: apticron): Simple tool to mail about pending package updates. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.55 (quantal), package size 14 kB, installed size 86 kB13:50
Sagittgood13:51
cfhowlettJpmh, install lubuntu.  then install ubuntu-desktop.13:51
GermainZ|Phone(reposting because a bunch of new people logged in) [15:11] (GermainZ|Phone) Hey guys, I'm having a few issues... Not sure why, probably some drivers issues. Most Fn keys have no effect (e.g. Keyboard illumination, brightness), others show popups correctly (e.g. Sound) but don't actually do anything... (sound and brightness are always locked to the max, for example). Any ideas?13:51
cfhowlettJpmh, or go the other way.  on login you can choose which desktop environment to boot.13:51
theadminSagitt: See the unattended-upgrades package, as well as /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades.13:51
Sagitttheadmin: so i've to delete // befor updates etc?13:52
Jpmhcfhowlett: I really want to leave my computer the way it is first, but test lubuntu - then if ok I will install13:52
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theadminSagitt: Read the comments in the file, they explain everything quite nicely.13:53
cfhowlettJpmh, ok.  use virtualbox to test other distros.13:54
wooI sftp'd into a server I am trying to run ddrescue and make the output > sftp://user@192.168.1.2/home/user.  But it seems that sftp is mounted eleswhere.  Can anyone help me locate the exact mount point of an sftp?13:54
arandTrolLlet: Yeah, see grub-set-default(8), I'm not sure you need to enable something in the grub cfg before that as well...13:54
pranavtheadmin: hey, you told that there is this vertical stacking navigator in xfce as well, what should i install for it ?13:54
TrolLletarand: thx for help.. was exactly what i was searching for13:54
GermainZ|Phone_Right click a panel, add new panel, choose deskbar13:55
GermainZ|Phone_@pranav13:55
Jpmhcfhowlett: too slow - is there some way I can install side-by-side like I cam install side-by-side with windoze13:55
TrolLletarand: would i be going to install windows first then ubuntu or ubuntu first?13:55
DmnchildIf when setting up partitions, I mount them as /home/username/ would that limit the user to the space of that partition?13:56
arandTrolLlet: For a dual boot, it's better to install windows first (in almost all cases)13:57
cfhowlettJpmh, as I said, easiest way is to install one OS, the add the meta packages of the other.  when finished, just purge the one you don't want.  OR, install in an extended partition i.e. "side by side"13:57
TrolLletarand: Thank you!13:57
Jpmhcfhowlett: but that will not be a complete lubuntu install13:58
theadminpranav: That's a part of Unity, I'm afraid it doesn't exist in Xfce. But, xfce4-panel provices similar functionality. You can configure the "Window Buttons" applet to not display window titles, for instance, and add a few launchers. Also, you can use docky, cairo-dock etc to get similar functionality as well13:58
Gr0tB4gz[@ubottu] thanks 4 that13:59
cfhowlettJpmh, false.  apt-get install lubuntu-desktop will add the lubuntu core to your pre-existing OS ... all packages and apps and artwork will be present14:00
pranavtheadmin: doing..14:00
Jpmhcfhowlett: but if for example one has an older kernel than the other?14:00
MusikPolicetheadmin: thank you for your earlier help, i managed to get my applets back by installing the indicator-* packages that you recommended14:02
pranavMusikPolice: which did you install, CPU graph, temperature ?14:02
cfhowlettJpmh, I'd advise running all updates and upgrades on your present OS first.  If booting the other OS causes a Kernel conflict, boot an earlier kernel.  FYI:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade14:02
MusikPolicetheadmin: just a note though that the network indicator is broken somehow. it disabled all of my network interfaces and i had to manually re-enable them. i wouldn't recommend it to a new user14:02
MusikPolicepranav: i added sound, clock, and user I think14:02
theadminMusikPolice: That's not exactly true, but yes, NetworkManager overrides most command-line-style configurations.14:03
pranavMusikPolice: those were there in my unity already14:03
Jpmhcfhowlett: ok - but whyy can't I install two linuxes if I can install linux and windoze?14:04
MusikPolicepranav: my situation is a bit different. i started with a headless server install and then added a barebones unity desktop. nice because you don't get any bloatware, but annoying because some of what i would consider *core* features are missing14:04
cfhowlettJpmh, you can!  note that you can only use 4 mbr partitions on a mbr computer .... efi is different.14:05
llutzcfhowlett: "gpt is different" you also can use gpt on mbr/bios computers14:06
cfhowlettllutz, noted.  please advise jpmh on his project?14:06
Jpmhcfhowlett: ok - so how do  I do it, since the installer does not give me the choice,14:07
llutzJpmh: do manual partitioning, its no problem to have several linux-installations parallel. you just have to decide which bootmanager you want to have into the MBR14:08
pranavMusikPolice: nice. did u also tried LXDE (open box) hehe14:08
Jpmhllutz: perfect ty14:09
guang_after i run command 'lsusb | grep -i 'bluetooth',it does not return anything.does it mean there is no bluetooth adapter on my notebook?14:09
Em_Help. I was connected to the internet during the installation of Ubuntu. After completing the installation process and restarting my laptop, my Wireless adapter seems to be malfunctioning. Mozilla Firefox can't connect to any website even though it' is connected. I tried pinging a website, doesn't work either. The connection to my router always gets disconnected but when I'm in windows, which I'm currently using, it doesn't.14:09
funchJpmh with a note that you can have linux on extended partition but windows will work on physical partition only, when you get into partitioning14:10
matlockactually14:10
matlockyou can run windows from an img file14:10
Jpmhfunch: ty - and windoze is long since gone anywy14:10
BluesKajBBL14:11
matlockactually it's a vhd file14:11
cfhowlettJpmh, and all of the partition/mbr/gpt/extended stuff is precisely why I installed lxde into my Ubuntustudio.  I can switch at will and/or purge lxde when I want14:11
cfhowlettJpmh, but that's just me.  YMMV14:11
Jpmhcfhowlett: ty so much14:12
cfhowlettJpmh, best of luck14:12
ThinkT510cfhowlett: what does your choice of desktop environment have to do with partitioning?14:13
woocan I output dd to a sftp server?14:13
ThinkT510cfhowlett: ahh, sorry, i just understood what you mean14:14
llutzwoo: does it need to be sftp or would ssh do?14:14
ThinkT510cfhowlett: rather than having to partition a new install14:14
t0ntinHi, all! I'm trying to install skype, and get this error message in the software center: Not found. There isn’t a software package called “file:” in your current software sources.  Any ideas?14:14
Malinussso now I have both gnome, and unity installed. I'm out in the login screen. How do I change to gnome?14:15
woollutz: I can use ssh to talk to the host but I only know sftp for file trasnfer.  yes ssh port is open14:15
llutzwoo: dd if=/dev/sda | ssh user@server 'dd of=sda.img'14:15
kwifihi there, i am running ubuntu 12.04 gnome, I need to adjust my wifi-antenna on my boat and need a acoustic signal strength meter. I used kwifimanager before but it seems it not available anymore? Is there a other program I can use?14:15
ThinkT510Malinuss: the login screen should have a little logo, click the logo in the top right to pick your desktop environment14:16
stroodlepuphow do you install libreoffice 4 in ubuntu?14:16
MalinussThinkT510, sigh... thanks..14:16
Em_Help. I was connected to the internet during the installation of Ubuntu. After completing the installation process and restarting my laptop, my Wireless adapter seems to be malfunctioning. Mozilla Firefox can't connect to any website even though it' is connected. I tried pinging a website, doesn't work either. The connection to my router always gets disconnected but when I'm in windows, which I'm currently using, it doesn't.14:16
ThinkT510stroodlepup: whats wrong with the version in the repo?14:16
woollutz: checking...14:17
parshanthow i will setup ec2 API and AMI tools on server14:17
llutzwoo: or to do that from local machine: ssh user@server 'dd if=/dev/sda' | dd of=sda.img              (servers /dev/sda -> local sda.img)14:17
alimjwoo: Either use llutz solution or install & use SSHFS14:17
pranavtheadmin: yes, docky works fine with my need. :)14:17
matlockand really, you don't even need to repartition to install windows14:17
matlockexcept for to make a small partition for bcd14:18
parshanthow14:18
matlockchain load that from grub14:18
matlockthen install win on a vhd14:18
woollutz: the client is trasfering to the server14:19
matlocki got a vhd that i can copy to my hdd and basically it's like reinstalling windows14:19
parshantpurpose of client in UEC environment14:19
woollutz: alright I have a sda.img on the server side too14:20
llutzwoo: as used in 1st example.14:20
woollutz: yes worked very well.  Thanks!14:20
parshanthow to use keys after extracting credentials14:20
parshanthello14:21
cfhowlettparshant, greetings14:21
parshantwhat is purpose of client in UEC environment14:22
kwifibump14:23
Em_Help. I was connected to the internet during the installation of Ubuntu. After completing the installation process and restarting my laptop, my Wireless adapter seems to be malfunctioning. Mozilla Firefox can't connect to any website even though it' is connected. I tried pinging a website, doesn't work either. The connection to my router always gets disconnected but when I'm in windows, which I'm currently using, it doesn't.14:25
Umairall: is there an official apt-get search engine?14:25
ikoniaEm_: worth looking at your dns settings14:26
jribUmair: you don't want to use "apt-cache search"?14:26
UmairI was thinking if there is some search engine website14:26
ikoniasearch for what ?14:26
jribUmair: http://packages.ubuntu.com14:26
chilibluealacart keeps crashing on my when I try and add a new item.14:27
Umairjrib: so I can find anything here which I can install with apt-get install package right?14:27
ikoniaUmair: no, that is s list of packages14:28
ikoniathat does not mean all are available for installation/compatability with your current distro version14:28
jribUmair: it searches ubuntu's official repositories. I don't see why one would not use apt-cache search to search all of their enabled repositories instead14:28
MusikPoliceEm_: try sudo ifconfig from the terminal, see if your wireless adaptor is getting an ip address14:28
janisozaurhi, i (dis)connect my webcam pretty often, every time i do that, i have to select my camera's mic. is it possible to have PA select it whenever it is connected?14:28
Umairjrib: you're right14:28
MusikPoliceEm_: you can reset your wireless adaptor with sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup wlan014:29
Umairbut does it guarantee to search everything?14:29
MusikPoliceEm_: if that doesn't work, check if there's a hardware switch on your laptop that is disabling the adaptor.14:29
Umairor just cached ones?14:29
ikoniaUmair: apt-cache will search everything that is in your current repo14:29
Umairthanks got it14:29
cfhowlettUmair, is there a specific package you're seeking?14:30
UmairI was looking for how python and python-dev are different14:30
ikoniaUmair: one contains the binaries, the other the devlopment info, such as headers14:31
ikoniahence the name -dev14:31
Umairyou know when I installed pypy which is python package and then Scrapy by pypy, I read it requires python-dev14:32
ikoniaso ?14:32
ikoniathe dependency checker within the package manager/packages will handle that14:32
UmairI'm currently testing this myself but not sure if that's true. It makes me think why this would need dev version whereas this is just for dev stuff14:32
chilibluemy alacarte issue seems to be python related too. is there any known issues with alacarte that I have missed14:33
parshanthow to install euca2ools14:33
ikoniachiliblue: check launchpad.net for bug reports of known issues14:33
ikoniaparshant: is that an ubuntu package /14:33
ikonia?14:33
parshantyes14:33
ikoniaparshant: open pakage manager, find package, click install14:33
parshantsudo apt get install euca2ools14:34
plaYer2khello everyone :314:34
parshantwhere is package manager14:34
plaYer2kiam looking for someone who could help me with configuring WizardPen under ubuntu 12.0414:34
ikoniaparshant: I sugest you read https://help.ubuntu.com to learn the basics of using the desktop14:35
Umairhow can I check if I have python-dev installed or not? I can check python is installed by checking its version14:35
ikoniaUmair: why does it matter ? just install the package you want, and it will auto install the dependencies that are missing14:35
theadminUmair: You can do "sudo apt-get install python-dev" and see if  that installs anything...14:36
parshantno euca2ools package is found,14:36
ikoniaparshant: then it's not an ubuntu package14:36
UmairI installed Scrapy and because it depends on Twisted which it tried to install and failed with gcc code 114:36
theadmin!info euca2ools | ikonia, parshant14:36
ubottuikonia, parshant: euca2ools (source: euca2ools): managing cloud instances for Eucalyptus. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.2-1ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 148 kB, installed size 835 kB14:36
ikoniaUmair: how did you install scrappy14:36
ikoniaparshant: there you go, then the package is there14:37
Umairpip install Scrapy. but under virtualenv14:37
theadminparshant: Run "sudo apt-get update" then, sounds like you're missing package lists14:37
ikoniaUmair: pip ?14:37
Umairpypy is a package manager for python14:37
ikoniaUmair: right, so that's no the ubuntu package manager14:37
Umairpip is command for pypy14:37
ikoniaUmair: so it won't be aware of any ubuntu packages14:37
Umairare you sure?14:38
Umairit requires Python to run14:38
ikoniaUmair: does it deal with .deb packages ?14:38
ikoniaUmair: reuquiring python to run, does not make it a deb package manager intergrated into the ubuntu package system14:38
UmairI'm not sure if it deals with .deb14:38
ikoniaUmair: then it won't be aware of ubuntu packages14:39
theadminikonia: It's not a deb package manager, it installs python "packages" which are basically sets of python modules14:39
ikoniatheadmin: which makes sense14:39
theadminikonia: Yep.14:39
woollutz: :) this is going to take a really long time over wifi huh?14:39
Umairright14:39
llutzwoo: sure, depends on the image-size. imageing wihtout gbit-network is a pita14:40
Umairso when it says it failed with gcc code 1 it doesn't mean it will be solved by installing python-dev14:40
ikoniaUmair: it means it's trying to compile something, hence gcc14:40
woollutz: to safely exit dd its crtl+c?14:40
llutzwoo: yes14:40
wooty | llutz14:40
Umairthere is a chance compilation would need python-dev?14:41
ikoniavery likley14:41
ThinkT510woo: i don't think interupting dd can be called safe14:41
Umairso is there a way I can check if a particular package is installed already?14:41
jribUmair: apt-cache policy14:42
jrib!apt | Umair14:42
ubottuUmair: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)14:42
ikoniaUmair: dpkg -l | grep python-dev14:42
ikoniaUmair: or just try to install it...see if it installs14:42
Umairit just installed14:42
Umairhow can I fix this gcc error?14:43
wooThinkT510: I don't like using 802.11 for large transfers.  was lazy at the beginning to not get up.  so... but I understand14:43
ikoniaUmair: depends on the error, fix the dependencies, or the code14:43
akyamaalow14:44
NetFlamHi all!14:44
phoenixsamprashelp!! how to dvd rip a DVD?14:46
ikonia!dvd | phoenixsampras14:46
ubottuphoenixsampras: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats14:46
ikoniaphoenixsampras: check up on https://help.ubuntu.com for the basics of using multimedia tools14:46
theadminphoenixsampras: There are numerous tools for this in the repos, the easiest one to use is probably k9copy14:47
phoenixsamprastheadmin: and for gnome?14:47
cfhowlettphoenixsampras, also look into #ubuntustudio14:48
theadminphoenixsampras: There are handbrake, dvd::rip and so on. But you can install k9copy in a gnome environment as well, nothing to stop you from doing that. I just don't find others intuitive/easy to use.14:48
akyama@hackernewbie14:48
ikoniaakyama: ?14:48
war59312my crazy adventure of 2013: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2112820 Hope that helps soemone who runs into the same thing. Google tells me there are lots of people having this issue since as far as 2011. Ugh!14:50
phoenixsampraswhat about AdicdRip?14:51
Umairthanks guys14:52
STMelonThoggen DVD Ripper14:52
UmairI figured why gcc error was there. It was libxml2-dev and libxslt1-dev14:52
Umairbtw what these modules do14:52
woollutz: & ThinkT510: it wasn't safe14:52
ikoniaUmair: what do you mean, what do they do ?14:53
war59312how to mark a thread solved on the forums? i must be blind..14:53
Umairwhat are their functions14:53
llutzwoo: ?14:54
war59312yea blind.. hhaha funny how that happens.. its under thread tools14:54
woollutz: networking locked up on the ssh14:54
ikoniaUmair: they put xml and xslt compatability in14:54
woollutz: client side14:54
llutzwoo: kill the ssh-session14:55
woollutz: its gone14:57
war59312anyone here great at mounting via rc.local.. having trouble getting a raid5 array to mount.. works fine in fstab...14:57
war59312fstab entry is: #RAID5 UUID=8210E37910E37319  /media/RAID  ntfs-3g  noauto,rw,user,owner,uid=1000,gid=1000  0  0 #NFS /media/RAID/Boxee       /export/users   none    noauto,bind     0       014:58
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scratchy_Yay14:58
scratchy_A chatbox :)14:58
scratchy_Hi everybody14:58
scratchy_How you guys doing today14:58
scratchy_Its been like a decade since ive been on IRC14:58
war59312welcome back14:58
scratchy_But today's technology and social media is kinda forcing me back into my old ways14:59
scratchy_I need a little freshning up course though14:59
scratchy_XD14:59
woollutz: should assign sudo +i before the dd.  Glich between the sudo and server authorization14:59
cfhowlettscratchy_, greetings.  this channel's focus is ubuntu support.  What are your questions?14:59
scratchy_Well, my question is the following, Just installed ubuntu on a laptop with some GPU troubles15:00
llutzwoo yes15:00
akyama@indonesianbacktrack.or.id15:00
llutzwoo:or just:  sudo dd if=/dev/sda | ssh user@server 'dd of=sda.img'15:00
woollutz: can I script pws into the script??15:00
scratchy_do you have any advice for me to install my desktop system with the least possible graphical resources15:00
scratchy_like a text only system15:00
llutzwoo: no, ssh won't take passwords from commandline (without hacks)15:01
cfhowlettscratchy_, what kind of problems are you having???15:01
scratchy_Well I blew out my 3d graphics acceleration a while ago on this awesome laptop. Still works fine with text though15:01
scratchy_So i want to use ubuntu again to up my linux skills, so dont really need the graphical desktop15:02
scratchy_is there a way to deinstall it and still use ubuntu to the fullest ?15:02
cfhowlettscratchy_, you installed ubuntu12.0415:02
cfhowlett?15:02
scratchy_yeah, should I have installed another version ?15:03
ThinkT510!mini | scratchy_15:03
ubottuscratchy_: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD15:03
scratchy_problem is when I go into the graphical desktop too long15:03
scratchy_it just locks up15:03
scratchy_ok Cool Thanks Ubottu15:03
Umairall: http://instacod.es15:03
scratchy_One more question for you awesome support guys15:03
scratchy_Is there a channel where I can talk linux and ubuntu without having questions15:04
scratchy_I mean like just topical chat15:04
cfhowlettscratchy_, ubuntu 12.04 has unity which requires a gpu.  Not sure but I think perhaps lxde or xfce desktop interfaces less and MIGHT fly with a hobbled gpu15:04
ThinkT510scratchy_: #ubuntu-offtopic15:04
war59312sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb2 /media/RAID   NOT working but no error either.. ugh!15:04
scratchy_ok kewl :)15:04
cfhowlettscratchy_, best of luck15:04
scratchy_Yeah I was thinking of installing gentoo15:04
scratchy_but then I remembered the hassle with the USE enviro's15:05
scratchy_so kinda dont wanna go through that again lol15:05
scratchy_So maybe a minimal install of ubuntu would do the trick15:05
r_a_funity is only a candy - not require to anything15:05
STMelonscratchy_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server15:05
cfhowlettscratchy_, if you can get a command line, try sudo apt-get xfce && sudo apt-get install lxde    then logout, login and choose one or the other to test15:05
scratchy_is xfce still out there ?15:06
scratchy_awesome :)15:06
scratchy_Ok Thanks for the tip...Im gonna try it out15:06
scratchy_Keep up the good work15:06
* war59312 feels dumb..... sudo mount.ntfs-3g /dev/sdb2 /media/RAID works just fine :)15:07
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STMelonThe basic steps to install Ubuntu Server Edition from CD or USB stick are the same for installing any operating system. Unlike the desktop version, Ubuntu Server does not include a graphical installation program. Instead the Server Edition uses a console menu-based process.15:07
scratchy_STMelon, Will I still be able to use the full function of Ubuntu...Lynx for Web and ehr I need somekind Mailing program...15:08
scratchy_oh and access to the cloud would be nice15:08
cfhowlettscratchy_, evolution handles mail nicely15:08
STMelonmost likely yes, i havnt installed ubun tu server, its all cli though, no DE15:09
cfhowlett!ubuntuone|scratchy_15:09
ubottuscratchy_: Ubuntu One is a service where you can back up, store, sync and share your data with other Ubuntu One users - For more see https://one.ubuntu.com/ support and help available at #ubuntuone15:09
scratchy_Well, I got some extra time right now :) My boss wont be back for hours ;)15:09
dedunuyou should install DE tp15:09
dedunuuse GUI15:09
scratchy_Ill install the server edition and let you guys know how it went15:09
dedunuhey15:10
dedunuscratchy15:10
scratchy_hey15:10
dedunuyou can download minimal ISO15:10
scratchy_Dedunu :)15:10
dedunuand then15:10
dedunuinstall DE15:10
dedunuit will save few megabytes15:10
cfhowlett!minimal|scratchy_15:10
ubottuscratchy_: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD15:10
scratchy_ok minimal15:10
scratchy_:)15:10
dedunubcz server contains15:10
scratchy_like my techno that sounds good15:10
dedunufew packages apache mysql php15:11
dedunuwhich you really don't need15:11
scratchy_just the basic lamp server ?15:11
dedunuyeah15:11
dedunuwith dns15:11
dedunublah blah15:11
scratchy_yeah not planning much with running servers15:11
dedunuopenssh15:11
war59312ok so sudo mount.ntfs-3g -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/sdb2 /media/RAID  is perfect :)15:11
dedunuthen download minimal15:11
scratchy_Just need my battery to last and my GPU not to be working15:11
scratchy_Just need my battery to last and my GPU not to be working15:11
dedunuok15:12
dedunuuse minal15:12
scratchy_Thanks dedunu15:12
dedunuwelcome15:12
STMelonyou could always try xubuntu scratchy_ : http://xubuntu.org/15:12
dedunuyeah15:12
STMelonminimal gives you alot more control as to what is installed though15:13
dedunuxubuntu is a lightweight one15:13
dedunuwith xfce15:13
SamuelOPHThere's Lubuntu too, with LXDE15:13
dedunu12.1015:13
dedunui had a problem15:13
SamuelOPHBut I prefer XFCE15:13
dedunuwith memory15:13
dedunuthen i installed xfce15:13
war59312is rc.local really the best place for me to be mounting network drives... fstab is a no no.. don't want it print text on bootup that it cant access them.. text is still print even if using the _netdev option.15:14
dedunuit reduced memry consumtion 3gb to .5 gb15:14
dedunuits really cool15:14
scratchy_Yeah its a dualcore msi laptop and I used it for years, just because I got this little 3d acceleration problem would be wasteful to buy a new laptop15:14
SamuelOPHYep, I'm using XFCE here15:14
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rikicathe esyest way to master shell ..any  ideas :)15:19
Umairrikica: by doing it :)15:21
userid01hello15:21
mand_Is there a way to make windows not span over multiple viewports?15:22
rikicaumair ..swet and read ..but wher to start ..i ment ..free links ..or e-books15:22
Malinussso right now I have a "minimal" ubuntu installed. How would I go around installing and starting the XFCE DE? I can't find the package name..15:22
ThinkT510rikica: perhaps better asked in #bash15:22
mand_Malinuss: install xubuntu-desktop15:23
derbieHello. Any German native speaker online?15:23
lnx-ehello every one15:23
cfhowlett!de|derbie,15:23
ubottuderbie,: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!15:23
derbieThank you15:23
IdleOnederbie: tell thrawed to try harder when he helps.15:23
xanguaMalinuss: still with that...really you should just download a normal desktop iso15:24
cfhowlettlnx-e, greetings15:24
Malinussxangua, just playing around :)15:24
Malinussmand_, thanks, isn't that more or less the same as lubuntu?15:24
lnx-ei need help about display configration15:24
lnx-exorg.conf or smth15:24
dedunumalinuss it is very light one15:24
cfhowlett!details|lnx-e,15:25
ubottulnx-e,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."15:25
dedunubit different than ubuntu desktop i mean terminal blah bla15:25
ThinkT510!xorgconf | lnx-e15:25
ubottulnx-e: The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf - ATI/AMD ( fglrx driver ) specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd - NVidia ( nvidia driver )specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia man xorg.conf for file structure and syntax.15:25
lnx-ei have 3 monitor system15:25
Seagullhello everyone! May I ask a little dummy question about Broadcom network adapter configuration? To be specific -- I have installed wrong drivers using b43-fwcutter and don't know how get rid of them15:25
dedunubut you can do everything with it15:25
lnx-echoosing 1 monitor default15:25
Malinussdedunu, are you talking about xubuntu or lubuntu?15:25
derbieIdleOne: :-)15:25
dedunuany15:25
dedunuMalinuss kernal is ubuntu one but DESKTOP enviroment have set of native tools15:26
dedunuthey make a difference in UX15:26
dedunuuser expericen15:26
cfhowlettSeagull, I take it you manually installed those15:26
cfhowlett?15:26
lnx-ei need to choose default one monitor (center one) all opengl games are opening  left one (sorry aboout my english :))15:26
lnx-eim using ubuntu 12.1015:27
lnx-eim new15:27
dedunulnx-e you can take display settings and setup your monitors15:27
cfhowlettlnx-e, what is your first language?15:27
lnx-eturkish15:28
lnx-eim from istanbul15:28
Seagullcfhowlett yes. I found manual, at http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=239922 but I should install another driver15:28
lnx-emy setup is ok .... 3 monitors ok15:28
lnx-ebut i just wanted to set default15:28
cfhowlettSeagull, slow down.  what is your broadcom chip? 43**???15:29
lnx-ei have ati hd 685015:29
Malinussand how do I start the GUI again?15:30
lnx-ein display manager i couldnt find "make default" button line15:30
Seagullcfhowlett, BCM43228 . and i'v installed b43 instead of broadcom-wl15:30
cfhowlettSeagull, additional drivers didn't pick up the broadcom for you?15:31
dedunuMalinuss try startx ?15:31
Malinussk15:31
dedunuI never tried it just asked ok15:32
dedunu?15:32
HenrikJ 15:32
Seagullcfhowlett, If i understand you, additionl drivers is a GUI tool? I haven't any GUI installed. just a little console server.15:32
cfhowlettSeagull, I'm pretty sure if you just do the broadcom Linux STA driver, it will overwrite the previous driver.  However, you could apt-purge the previous driver if you wih15:33
cfhowlettSeagull, understood.15:33
phoenixsamprasim a dvd ripper... wohoo15:33
dedunuMalinuss did it work?15:34
cfhowlettSeagull, so I think the process would be to install the Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA and see if that fixes things.  If not, then purge the previous driver and reboot and try again.15:34
Malinussdedunu, the installation isn15:34
Malinuss't quiet finished15:34
dedunuok15:34
dedunutell me update ;_15:34
dedunu;)15:34
MalinussI will hehe15:34
bat_Hi, I have samba running and I would like to start/stop it at will. But the command 'sudo service smdb stop' doesn't stop it (I know it thanks to nmap). Is this normal ?15:35
ioriabat_ : service smbd, i think15:36
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Malinussdedunu, "failed to load sesion "gnome" "15:36
dedunuwhat is the DE you isntalled frnd15:37
dedunu??15:37
bat_ioria: I tried service smbd stop and it doesn't work15:37
Seagullcfhowlett, sorry one thing else. You said purge drivers. I am trying to ask how? Their wasn't installed by apt-get . I'v unpacked them using b43-fwcutter. (Sorry if i'm dumb)15:37
dedunui think it only work for GNOME15:37
Malinussdedunu, I installed the lubuntu-core15:37
dedunuMalinuss wait a but15:38
ioriabat_ : sorry, but you wrote : service sm - db15:38
dedunubit15:38
cfhowlettSeagull, you installed the driver with dpkg -i , no?  the inverse would be dpkg -remove I think ...15:38
SamuelOPHbat_; try it with samba isntead of smbd15:38
cfhowlettSeagull, and you're not dumb15:38
dedunumalinuss try thisexec startlxde15:38
dedunuexec startlxde15:38
Seagullcfhowlett, as I'v found by google-ing I must delete all unnecessary drivers15:39
dedunuor startlxde15:39
xanguaMalinuss: you can download the desktop iso of lubuntu at lubuntu.net15:39
bat_ioria: (ho sorry I mis-typed it, i meant 'smbd')15:39
OerHeksbat_,  what does sudo service smbd status  tell you ?15:39
dedunuxangua he already have installed core15:39
xangua.....15:39
dedunuxangua now its better to install DE15:39
dedunuisnt it?15:39
SamuelOPHbat_; try #service samba stop15:40
Malinussxangua, I have core installed,  I just don't know how to start the GUI :=15:40
bat__re15:40
dedunuMalinuss didn't it work?15:40
dedunu:(15:40
dedunuthen i am not good person to help you15:41
dedunu:(15:41
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bat__typing 'service samba stop' returns 'samba: unrecognized service'15:41
Malinussdedunu, both commands are unknown15:41
dedunuoops15:41
dedunuhttp://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu15:41
bat__typing 'service smbd status' returns nothing15:41
dedunufrom here i got it malinuss15:41
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ioriabat_ : try     sudo  /etc/init.d/smbd stop, but maybe it's not running ... does it show in ps -A?15:42
OerHeksbat_, use sudo15:42
xanguaMalinuss: you would spend less time in downloading and installing the desktop iso (1-2 hours) than installing a desktop (you have been doing it for 2 days as far as i know)15:42
cfhowlettSeagull, ok.  I manually built and installed the drivers in 10.04.  12.04 worked out of the box.15:42
cfhowlettbat_, try smb15:42
Seagullcfhowlett no dpkg. there is a b43-fwcutter, i'v installed it, then wget driver file, unpack it and then used b43-fwcutter to extract it to /lib/firmware (exactly as described in http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=239922 at step 3, b43 drivers instalation)15:42
bat__ioria: I know it is running, I can see it with nmap15:42
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bat__ioria: it returns 'Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service'15:43
cfhowlettSeagull, ok. ask in the channel for removal/purge guidance.  sorry IDK15:43
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nickhi15:43
Malinussxangua, I'm not in a hurry. I had it installed 2-3 times already, just started over a couple of times for the fun of it.. I'm just doing this mostly to learn, not to have something working. maybe I should try arch, haha15:44
nickDoes anybody know how can I install vmware workstation 9.0.1 on my ubuntu?15:44
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Guest63807I have downloaded this file from their site. VMware-Workstation-Full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.bundle15:44
dinkeli just updated 12.04 on a asus 901 eeepc. the system will not boot anymore due to a  "The system is running in low graphics mode .... your screen could not be detected corrctly" i'm pretty sure this is because of a xserver update. what can i do?15:45
Guest63807Does anybody know how can I install vmware workstation 9.0.1 on my ubuntu? I have downloaded this file from their site. VMware-Workstation-Full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.bundle15:45
bat__ioria: Yes I can see smbd with ps -A15:45
unheedingGuest63807: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware15:45
Seagullcfhowlett, Thank a lot for your help!15:46
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ioriabat_ : there are error messages ?15:47
playdoif anyone has some knowledge of .htaccess, could you please take a look at http://pastebin.com/cMW98sD015:47
Guest39482any one have any information on getting Netflix to run on Ubuntu. I've tried every thing to get it to work15:47
playdohttp://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/how-to-get-netflix-streaming-on-ubuntu-1210/401915:48
bat__ioria: no, no error messages, just nothing.. it's weird i feel like my services are broken because when I type 'sudo service -status-all' there are questions marks on every services..15:48
MalinussI guess my question is - how do I start LXDE from the command promt, after the installation of lubuntu-core?15:48
mand_When I move a windows half out of a workspace, how can I prevent that it's other half appears on the next workspace?15:48
mojtabaDoes anybody know how can I install vmware workstation 9.0.1 on my ubuntu? I have downloaded this file from their site. VMware-Workstation-Full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.bundle.15:48
Guest39482playdo, I actually tried that already and I keep getting the same error at Netflix: it tells me 'thanks for installing - restart your browser' every time and won't run15:49
ioriabat_ : oh... try sudo kill -9 with the pid number but it's a very rough way15:49
voldymanguys what the best way to transfer music to iphone from ubuntu ?15:49
cfhowlett!phone|voldyman,15:49
ubottuvoldyman,: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone15:49
mojtabaDoes anybody know how can I install vmware workstation 9.0.1 on my ubuntu? I have downloaded this file from their site. VMware-Workstation-Full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.bundle.15:49
voldymancfhowlett, still i can't just throw away my old iphone.15:50
Chiku|dchi there is no passenger module for nginx ?15:50
mojtaba(10:48:56 AM) adam: Does anybody know how can I install vmware workstation 9.0.1 on my ubuntu? I have downloaded this file from their site. VMware-Workstation-Full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.bundle.15:50
SolarisBoyits a gem Chiku|dc15:50
cfhowlettvoldyman, wrong link. sorry15:50
cfhowlettipod|voldyman15:50
cfhowlett!ipod|voldyman15:50
ubottuvoldyman: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod15:50
bat__ioria: but I would to start it again later.. doing a kill -9 won't allow me to start it again later..15:50
Jeruvymojtaba, yes if you need help feel free to ask in #vmware.15:50
Chiku|dcSolarisBoy, I installed passenger gem15:50
mojtabaJeruvy: ok, thanks15:50
dinkelhisto, the very recent update of 12.04 killed my eeepc. no fully booting through because of graphics problem. any idea?15:51
Chiku|dcbut nginx: [emerg] unknown directive "passenger_root" in /etc/nginx/nginx.conf:1115:51
voldymancfhowlett, thanks. :)15:51
cfhowlettvoldyman, and feel free to mail that old phone my way ...15:51
SolarisBoyChiku|dc: you need to then run the binary which ships with the gem if it wasn't run yet to install the module - it may try to install nginx afaik15:51
ioriabat_ : well, if neither start works, maybe the problem is deeper15:51
Chiku|dcSolarisBoy, yes but it will compile new nginx which is not more the ubuntu package one ?15:52
bat__ioria: yes, I got the same feeling. By any chance, do you know where is the log for 'service' ?15:52
SolarisBoyChiku|dc: correct15:52
ioriabat_ : /var/log i think15:52
NaeblisHi. I'm suddenly having sound troubles in Ubuntu 11.04. Tried Troubleshooting, and ran a script to re-install all the ALSA related stuff, but hasn't worked. Help!15:52
Chiku|dcso I shouold not use ubuntu's nginx if I want passenger ?15:52
bat__ioria: Ok, I'll take look. Thank you for your time :)15:53
theuserso im still wondering what exactly are the multiseat/multiterminal improvements in the 12.10 release?15:53
ioriabat_ : good luck, pal15:53
SolarisBoyChiku|dc: i see a few folks have repos if you want to try that out15:53
cfhowlett!EOL|Naeblis,   you do know that version is end of life and no longer supported?15:53
ubottuNaeblis,   you do know that version is end of life and no longer supported?: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades15:53
xangua!eol | Naeblis15:53
ubottuNaeblis: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades15:53
Naeblisuhh....yeah15:54
Naeblisso no way I'm getting help for this version?15:54
SolarisBoyChiku|dc: otherwise the way i have done it is to just compile nginx using the ruby module (sounds backwards but yea, no repo installed nginx), or you can try one of the repo's (ppas) out there that seem to provide the module and nginx as well in package form if you want to stick to the ubuntu methods.15:54
BoreeasFor some reason, hibernation fails for me. The computer suspends, but when I boot it again, the saved state is lost. dmesg tells me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1633474/15:54
cfhowlettNaeblis, I'd urge you to consider installing 12.04 for Long Term Support ...15:54
BoreeasDoes anyone know how to fix that? I know that I have enough swap, swapon tells me that only  2% of the 10GB swap partition is used15:55
Chiku|dcSolarisBoy, I will compile nginx with gem module15:55
SolarisBoyChiku|dc: sounds food.15:56
Chiku|dcwhat about init.d script ?15:56
SolarisBoy*good =)15:56
Naebliscfhowlett: thanks, but that's not an option at the moment. I might move in a few days.15:56
Naeblis:(15:56
cfhowlettNaeblis, ok then...15:56
SolarisBoyChiku|dc: the nginx init script is pretty simple just repoint it to /opt where i believe it will install by default in the software compile15:56
cfhowlettNaeblis, any warning messages on your audio fail???15:56
Naebliscfhowlett: that's the weird part. The devices are all recognized, and usually, the ALSA script (which I got from a very helpful person on Ubuntu forums) always fixed everything, but it's not working.15:57
Naebliscfhowlett: closest I got was that usergroup 63 (I think) doesn't exist15:57
cfhowlettNaeblis, any chance this could be a hardware failure???15:57
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Naebliscfhowlett: hmm, don't think so to be honest. Might have to boot into Windows to find out15:58
cfhowlettNaeblis, that would be a definitive test ...15:58
Naebliscfhowlett: I'll reboot and let you know how it goes. :)15:59
phoenixsamprasis there stickyes in ubuntu?15:59
l057c0d3ranyone here use the ubuntu one feature?16:01
phoenixsamprasl057c0d3r: tried... but dropbox is better16:01
l057c0d3rim down to the last part where it sais sync, stream , store16:01
compdoccloud storage?16:01
l057c0d3rselected the files i wanted.. and its been saying gathering information for an hour now16:01
l057c0d3rerr getting information please wait.. same thing16:01
SolarisBoyi like dropbox but ubuntu one works (recently) for me so i started using that since its already installed anyway16:02
l057c0d3ri feel like its not doing anything16:02
l057c0d3rat all16:02
SolarisBoyare you using a default setup ? or highly customized? i know that u1 used to have an issue with folks not running network manager16:02
cfhowlett1057c0d3r it's a pretty silent operation ...16:02
BluesKajdropbox works fine on ubuntu16:03
SolarisBoythey have logs under .cache i believe though if you wanted to know16:03
l057c0d3rit was the setup screen still.. couldnt click finish because it was getting information16:03
SolarisBoydo you have large files?16:03
l057c0d3rits not even syncing yet from what i can tell16:03
l057c0d3roh well i just killed the process and reopened it..16:03
SolarisBoyyou can check the logs to see what was happening16:04
l057c0d3rgot the actual ubuntu one screen now.. i'll see what happens from here16:04
PhysicistGreetings. Red Orchestra does not start later I had changed to 3D mode on Steam. My system is AMD 64 1TB 6GB ubuntu 12.04. How can I fix that?16:04
cfhowlettnot the nicest user commun16:04
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FloodBot1cfhowlett: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:04
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cfhowlettSeagull, ok.  I manually built and installed the drivers in 10.04.  12.04 worked out of the box.16:04
l057c0d3rbut yeah..  have a fully custom setup...  installed from minimal cd.. and pulled in what i wanted....16:05
l057c0d3rbut i love this setup :-)  looks and works great16:05
SolarisBoyl057c0d3r: running network manager or just manually setting interfaces or other (wicd etc)?16:05
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l057c0d3rim using network manager16:06
SolarisBoyl057c0d3r: regardless you may want to check the logs to be sure and maybe try dropbox if it's more forgiving of your setup16:06
PhysicistGreetings. Red Orchestra does not start later I had changed to 3D mode on Steam. My system is AMD 64 1TB 6GB ubuntu 12.04. How can I fix that problem?16:06
SolarisBoyl057c0d3r: ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/ has seperate logs for each main function/process so thats where you would see what was causing an issue if anything16:06
l057c0d3rahh its working now.. i wonder what the hang in setup was all about16:07
l057c0d3rkilled that process and restarted..  now i can see my devices and its syncing right now16:07
l057c0d3roh well as long as its working now.16:07
SolarisBoylogs may tell you, file sizes/counts could be one thing, or maybe a network hiccup (which would be in logs)16:07
l057c0d3rprobably was something to do with my net to be honest16:08
l057c0d3rit likes to drop all the time16:08
SolarisBoythat would do it =)16:08
l057c0d3rend up going away for a few min and comming back to l057c0d3r_ in irc16:08
PhysicistCommon fellas..16:08
l057c0d3ri need a new isp16:09
phoenixsamprasI need a wine16:10
devdydHey all -- does anyone know of a decent method to return the color underneath the cursor so I can use it in a bash script?16:11
BoreeasFor some reason, hibernation fails for me. The computer suspends, but when I boot it again, the saved state is lost. dmesg tells me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1633474/16:11
BoreeasDoes anyone know how to fix that? I know that I have enough swap, swapon tells me that only  2% of the 10GB swap partition is used16:11
escottBoreeas, how much ram do you have?16:12
SolarisBoydevdyd: gpick16:12
Boreeasescott: 3 GB16:12
SolarisBoydevdyd: 'sudo apt-get install gpick'16:12
escottBoreeas, do you have encrypted home/encrypted swap16:13
Boreeasescott: I don't think so. How do I check?16:13
escottBoreeas, what does swapon -s say16:14
EuroTrashIf I edit /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/mdadm, will that apply automatically on next boot or do I have to update initramfs?16:14
SolarisBoyEuroTrash: update16:14
Naebliscfhowlett: turns out it was hardware fault after all. :/16:14
Boreeas/dev/sda6                               partition10687484218372-116:14
andrewxAnyone know about Flash 11.5 support for linux? Whats up?16:14
cfhowlettNaeblis, at least now you know ...16:14
EuroTrashThanks (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID did not mention it)16:15
Naebliscfhowlett: thanks for your time. I never considered h/w to be faulty. I always assume Ubuntu to be at fault for my sound troubles16:15
cfhowlett!flash|andrewx,16:15
ubottuandrewx,: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash16:15
OerHeksandrew_, current is  11.2 r202 and 11.5 is for windows16:16
ethanrhow stable is ubuntu 13.04 at this point?16:16
rikica?16:17
cfhowlett!ubuntu+1|ethanr,16:17
ubottuethanr,: Raring Ringtail is the codename for Ubuntu 13.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+116:17
rikicaubutnu  13.04 is out  or will be after may16:17
compdocRaring Ringtail - heh, great name16:17
rikica?16:17
STMelon11.2.202.262 is the latest adobe flash.. in ubuntu software center: flashplugin-installer 11.2.202.262ubuntu0.12.04.116:17
devdydthanks SolarisBoy I'll check it out16:17
SolarisBoydevdyd: sure16:18
STMelonhttp://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html16:18
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ethanrI need a new OS for my netbook (Eee PC 901), but ubuntu12.10 is too slow. I tried 13.04 from a relatively slow USB, and it seemed to be faster, but it had severe visual glitches on the dash and alt-tab. will these still remain if I install? how about if I update?16:20
theuserCan i prevent ubuntu from automatically start using a keyboard as an input device?16:20
cfhowlettethanr, xubuntu or lubuntu are designed for low spec and older machines.  either should work well.  I'd suggest you install 12.04 for Long Term Support16:21
ethanrcfhowlett, i don16:21
invariantethanr, if you want things to work, use 12.04.16:21
theuserethanr,   Lubuntu 12.04 is golden16:21
ThinkT510ethanr: 13.04 support in #ubuntu+1 until stable release16:21
Boreeasescott: /dev/sda6                               partition10687484218372-116:22
invariantethanr, if you want to waste time on a broken system every one in a while, use something newer.16:22
invariantevery once in a while*16:22
dinkelmy eeepc root partition (4GB SSD) is notoriously short of memory, so i have only minimal install. is there a way to enlarge the root partition acroos hardware borders. i have plenty of space on the secondary SSD (16 GB).16:22
dinkel?16:22
ethanrdinkel16:22
ethanri have the exact same hd config as you16:22
dinkelyes16:22
escottBoreeas, yeah everything looks ok with the swap partition itself.16:23
invariantdinkel, you can use bind mounts.16:23
dinkelinvariant, bind mounts ... never heard of it16:23
invariant!bind16:23
dinkelok16:23
invariantdinkel, just google it.16:23
invariantdinkel, it allows you to put e.g. your usr on your 16GB drive.16:24
cfhowlett!google16:24
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.16:24
escottdinkel, an unsupported configuration is to put /usr on a different disk16:24
invariantcfhowlett, ....16:24
dinkelescott, alrigth16:24
theuserI was in awe when i realized my 4-5year old mini asus aspire one L110 could do 1080p on the vga out16:24
invariantcfhowlett, have you even googled it yourself?16:24
dinkelis it straightforward to do and secure?16:24
invariantcfhowlett, it cannot be much simpler.16:24
dinkelor am i getting in a whole lot of other troubles?16:24
invariantcfhowlett, type 'bind mount' and press enter.16:25
invariantescott, what kind of nonsense is that?16:25
escottinvariant, ?16:25
invariantescott, who told you that?16:25
escottinvariant, told me what?16:25
dinkelinvariant, thx16:26
invariantescott, that putting /usr on a different disk is unsupported?16:26
invariantdinkel, I am not using it for usr, but I am using it for some other myself.16:26
devdydSolarisBoy: this won't output to the console though right?16:26
trap24which is the offtopic channel for ubuntu :D16:26
escottinvariant, there are binaries in /sbin that use libraries in /usr. so /sbin is broken without /usr16:26
cfhowlett!ot|trap24,16:27
ubottutrap24,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:27
dinkelinvariant, but it doesnt look straightforward to me16:27
invariantescott, how is that even remotely related to what I asked you?16:27
dinkelgoogle doesnt really clarify things16:27
escottinvariant, if you dont use those binaries you might not have any problems but developers aren't making promises that separate /usr will work for everyone16:27
dinkelinvariant, i wonder anyway why a basic install chews up 4 GB16:27
dinkelanyway ...16:28
invariantescott, again, where did you read that?16:28
OerHeksdinkel you could boot from 2nd ssd, and use the small 4 gb for data/backup16:28
invariantescott, there is no reason... no reason at all why that wouldn't work.16:28
llutzinvariant: " ldd /sbin/*|grep usr"16:29
dinkelOerHeks, yes, i wanted to avoid that ... but under these circumstances its  probably the most straightforward solution16:29
invariantllutz, how is that related?16:29
invariantllutz, I know what the command does, and as far as I am concerned the output is irrelevant.16:30
llutzinvariant: any binary from /sbin using libs in /usr/* will fail to run until /usr is mounted16:30
llutzinvariant: so you have to make sure none of those are used UNTIL /usr is mounted16:30
invariantllutz, yes, and isn't everything mounted at boot?16:30
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STMelonbrb16:30
llutzinvariant: you don't get it16:30
invariantllutz, because you haven't provided an argument.16:31
llutzinvariant: so you have to make sure none of those are used UNTIL /usr is mounted16:31
invariantllutz, you only alluded to an argument.16:31
zilvukasHello, have problem with erricsson integrated 3g device, after connection astablish'ed, i am automaticaly disconnected after few minutes.16:31
PhysicistGreetings. Red Orchestra does not start later I had changed to 3D mode on Steam. My system is AMD 64 1TB 6GB ubuntu 12.04. How can I fix that problem?16:31
invariantllutz, now would be a great time to say that with default Ubuntu that is not the case.16:31
invariantllutz, because otherwise your whole argument falls over.16:32
cfhowlettPhysicist, steam is still in beta ...16:32
escottinvariant, upstream fedora/systemd has already declared it to be completely unsupported and is started down the path of eliminating /usr entirely. debian is likely to try and keep it running a bit longer, but i think it is fair to say it is "unsupported" in the sense that it is not guaranteed to work for everybody, and its not guaranteed to continue to work in the future16:32
llutzinvariant: so you have to make sure none of those are used UNTIL /usr is mounted <- if thats the case with *buntu, you're fine.16:32
Physicistcfhowlett, and??16:33
tonsofpcsPhysicist: I don't think RO has an OpenGL mode16:33
invariantllutz, in short, you don't know.16:33
llutzinvariant: i never said it doesn't work16:33
cfhowlettPhysicist, so this might be a steam issue not an ubuntu issue???16:33
invariantescott, you seem to be a very confused person.16:33
Physicisttonsofpcs, Exist the choose between Direct 3d and Open GL. My choice was Direct 3D. Later that.. crash!!16:34
invariantThe whole 'not supported' issue has no meaning anyway.16:34
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escottinvariant, what would you call it when binaries in /sbin rely on libraries in /usr and upstream udev requires /usr to be on the same disk?16:34
invariantYou can always pay someone to get it to work again if you cannot do it yourself.16:34
alamiwhy i can found irssi-plugin-silc16:34
tonsofpcsPhysicist: you don't have Direct3D.16:34
invariantEven then, I am sure someone who is not part of the regular might help someone who has a problem.16:35
alamiwhy i can't found irssi-plugin-silc16:35
nightwalkerkgHi i have just installed ubuntu res. extras and when i open a video on youtube there is justa black screen where the video should be.16:35
invariantescott, upstream udev?16:35
invariantescott, I would consider it a huge design failure.16:35
cfhowlettnightwalkerkg, see what happens with a vimeo.com video ...16:36
Physicisttonsofpcs, Now I see.. Direct 3D...  sure! I don't have it.... How revert that?16:36
invariantescott, there is no reason to impose such a restriction.16:36
nightwalkerkgJust a sec.16:36
invariantescott, in fact, if I want to put the rootfs on NFS, that should be possible.16:36
tonsofpcsPhysicist: set it back to opengl?16:36
nightwalkerkgcfhowlett, well on vimeo there is just an image of that video and i can't do anything else.16:37
nightwalkerkgThe right click isn't working on the video,but it's working on the page.16:37
Physicisttonsofpcs, Only possible change opening the game.. And the game does not open.16:37
cfhowlettnightwalkerkg, i'm thinking flash issues ... what browser are you in??16:37
nightwalkerkgFirefox.16:37
alamiwhy i can't found irssi-plugin-silc on ubuntu 12.1016:38
escottinvariant, i have zero interest in arguing design decisions with you. im saying that if i suggest to someone they put /usr on a different disk im also going to warn them that it may break because the lead developers of core software don't consider that to be a valid configuration16:38
tonsofpcsPhysicist: search the steam forums for an answer, I guess16:38
nightwalkerkgAlso,something is chewing my CPU,it's more then 60% all the time.16:38
nightwalkerkgAnd i don't have anything opened.16:38
cfhowlettnightwalkerkg, try youtube.com/html5 to see if that format works16:38
Physicisttonsofpcs, Thank you!16:38
Physicistcfhowlett, Thank you!16:39
cfhowlettPhysicist, best of luck16:39
invariantescott, I am pretty sure those developers can go and prepare to be forked then, because users don't want that.16:39
iorianightwalkerkg: do you use flash 10 or 11 ?16:39
invariantescott, and you still haven't provided any proof, btw.16:39
invariantescott, no link to a mailinglist or manual or standard. Nothing.16:39
invariantescott, I also have no interest in arguing with you, because apparently you don't understand the rules of a discussion.16:40
invariantescott, you are supposed to present proof or don't say anything at all.16:40
invariantAll I have seen now is scare-mongering.16:41
nightwalkerkgioria, well according to Firefox it's Shockwave Flash 11.2 r20216:41
escottinvariant, then please dont16:41
* cfhowlett ... if we can get back to actual support please???16:41
invariantescott, I believe I said that it was you that shouldn't say anything at all.16:41
iorianightwalkerkg: youtube, vimeo, google video, not working at all ? and no messages from firefox ?16:42
invariantcfhowlett, this is part of actual support.16:42
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larry_hi all16:42
invariantcfhowlett, it's just beyond the level of comprehension of escott.16:42
nightwalkerkgioria, correct.16:42
cfhowlettlarry_, greetings16:42
larry_does anyone know what hdmi output video cards work with 12.04 ?16:42
nightwalkerkgThere is just a black image where the video should be.16:42
larry_hi cfhowlett16:42
xanguanightwalkerkg: did you install any other flash plugin¿ gnash for example16:42
alamiany one can tell one why i can't find irssi silc client package16:43
nightwalkerkgxangua, no,this is a fresh install i just installed ubuntu res. extras from the USC.16:43
cfhowlettnightwalkerkg, on the html5 youtube?  also, after installing restricted extras you might wish to reboot...16:43
iorianightwalkerkg: i had a issue like that... i installed flash 10 (you have to download from the site)16:43
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nightwalkerkgcfhowlett, i will reboot now and try.16:43
cfhowlettnightwalkerkg, but before that maybe run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade16:43
nightwalkerkgioria, from adobe or any other ?16:43
iorianightwalkerkg: from adobe16:44
nightwalkerkgOk,i will try that all.16:44
rushiagrhey people16:45
cfhowlettrushiagr, greetings16:45
piccahi rushiagr16:46
rushiagr:)16:46
rushiagrhows your day cfhowlett, picca?16:47
larry_rry, had toleave16:47
cfhowlettrushiagr, good.  what's your ubuntu issue this fine day?16:47
larry_I ould like to have an HDMI card to output to a tv16:47
rushiagrjust logged in after a long long time to this channel16:47
piccatired and work tomorrow rushiagr16:47
rushiagrpicca: hmm yeah, same hear too16:48
larry_which cards work ith 12.0416:48
rushiagrcfhowlett: no issues :)16:48
smeedoes ubuntu call subwoofer "rear center" speaker?16:48
tonsofpcsno16:48
tonsofpcssubwoofer is LFE.16:48
HaliteHow can I tell if I have 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu16:48
tonsofpcsrear center is rear center if such a speaker exists16:48
cfhowlett!hardware|larry_,16:49
ubottularry_,: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection16:49
tonsofpcs(some 4 speaker setups are FL/C/FR/RC)16:49
llutzHalite: uname -m16:49
larry_thanks ubottu16:49
smeeThats what I thought. speaker-test is set to 6 channels but i hear voice rear center instead of subwoofer16:49
BluesKajsmee, subwoofer is probly called LFE16:49
jhutchins_wklarry_: The only way we know is if someone tries a card and reports it.16:49
Halitewhat does x86_64 mean16:49
llutzHalite: 64bit16:49
Halitellutz: Wait a minute, I thought I had 32-bit Ubuntu16:50
jhutchins_wkHalite: Do you have /usr/lib64?16:51
llutzHalite: then it would be "i686"16:51
smeealsamixer gives me lfe but speaker test voice is rear center. Is this a bug in speaker-test?16:53
spyrosyo16:54
cfhowlettspyros, greetings16:54
spyroswhere can i discuss problem with my audio ?:P16:54
cfhowlettspyros, here.  ask.16:55
spyrosi got ubuntu 12.04.i cant use skype(for calls ) while i am listening to music(youtube or audaciosu)16:56
cfhowlettspyros, that would be normal behavior ...16:56
cfhowlettspyros, do one or do the other, you sound server is dedicated to the selected app16:57
BluesKajsmee, does front center work properly , if so then the speaker test isn't set for rear center16:57
escottspyros, you wouldnt want to anyways. skype's echo cancelation is junk16:57
spyros im pretty sure i could on 11.10 :/ :/16:58
larry_nope spyros , cant have more than one audio stream at a time17:00
escottspyros, if its not working at all make sure you have pulseaudio installed and are using the pulse device for input/output in skye and not the real device17:00
smeebluesKaj: the front center appears to work just it is through the rear right!17:00
MalsasaHello, any fresh subjective review for Libreoffice 4? :)17:00
BECMonitor help: I'm connecting to a Viewsonic VG700 (19" i guess) & a 32" LG TV (CS41 series). I cannot use them except in "Mirror displays" mode. If I disable this mode I get the following: http://i.imgur.com/D5OWb98.png (when I press close I get: http://i.imgur.com/I1s6eNi.png)17:01
BluesKajsmee, check your connections at the sound card17:01
BECany help?17:02
adamkBEC: You'll need to create an xorg.conf file with a Screen section and specify the maximum Virtual size you might use.17:02
BECadamk, is there a guide on doing this? (locate already found one!)17:03
adamkYou'd want something along the lines of: http://pastebin.com/i69s9q1t in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-screen.conf17:03
GermainZ|PhoneHas anyone tried using an ipod nano as a live usb?17:03
ThreepwoodBEC: there is "always" an existing xorg.conf17:03
adamkBut using the Virtual size you need.17:03
ArvenduHello Guys one question if i will copy/paste or format my pen drive on unix system then will it work in windows or read?17:04
escottArvendu, depends on how you format it17:05
smeebluesKaj: it is via hdmi to a amp. The amp is wired up correctly as tested on several other devices17:05
Arvenduescott guide me :( i want to remove windows crap :P17:05
mandoguitArvendu:  fat  fat16 or 32 ntfs will be able to be read by windows systems17:06
escottArvendu, you want to remove windows stuff but you want it to work on windows. im confused17:06
* cfhowlett :)17:06
lundyhow can I format a Pen Drive?17:07
BluesKajsmee, try the spdif out instead , hdmi audio might be misinterpreting the discrete location17:07
mandoguitArvendu:   standard formatting these days compatibilty wise, afaik, is fat3217:08
escottlundy, install and use "gparted"17:08
lundyi wanna install ubuntu onto it so I can install Ubuntu on another desktop17:08
cfhowlettlundy, startupdisk creator will do it nicely as will unetbootin17:08
mandoguitlundy:   gparted and unetbootin would be one way.    see   pendrivelinux.com17:08
lundykk ta17:09
GermainZ|PhoneThe live cd already has gparted so you can do it directly from there17:09
lundygparted wont find my pens17:09
mandoguitlundy:  check the right hand upper corner of gparted where you can change the device to be partitioned17:10
escottlundy, gparted isnt the correct tool since you wanted to make an install usb17:10
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jcabo_lundy: try usb-creator-gtk or usb-creator-kde to make a bootable ubuntu17:12
Folorncould someone tell me how to save all my channels/server so when i start up it just goes to all my channels automatically?17:12
smeebluesKaj: i only have a hdmi. I have remapped everything so correct channel order now but can't get any audio out of LFE at all. I have checked alsamixer is not muted LFE. Any ideas how to get LFE output? It is a sandby bridge.17:12
jcabo_lundy: it reformats the drive too17:12
kdeuserFolorn: what client do you use?17:13
Folornxchat kdeuser17:13
GermainZ|PhoneFolorn, depends on the client you're using. Ask in #help :)17:13
mandoguitFolorn:  right click on channel buttons and the Add to Favourites17:13
kdeuserFolorn:  Check your user settings, you should be able to add channels to join when you start xchat17:13
BluesKajsmee, what app are you using as an audio "test" ?17:14
Folornjust did dont see any place to save the channel list :(17:15
mandoguitFolorn:   Xchat > Network List > Freenode > Edit and make sure the "automatically join" box is ticked17:15
Folornk 1sec mandoguit17:16
smeebluesKaj: I am using speaker-test to test audio17:18
mandoguitFolorn:   xchat > Server > Download list then Save List   for channel listings per server17:18
RavusHi.17:18
cfhowlettRavus, greetings17:18
RavusI'm about to dual boot 12.10 with windows 7. Anything I should know?17:19
cfhowlettRavus, on what computer?17:19
RavusCustom built pc.17:19
kdeuserRavus: Install windows first and then *buntu17:20
dr_williswhen in doubt.. make backups...17:20
GermainZ|PhoneRavus I did it without issued...17:20
Folornthanks guys brb17:20
cfhowlettRavus, install 12.04 Long Term Support ... less bleeding edge but quite likely better supported for your hardware17:20
RavusI am on windows right now, I will be adding ubuntu.17:20
GermainZ|PhoneI installed grub in linux's partition, tho17:20
RavusSpecs: Triple monitors  RAM: G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)  CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 645 Propus 3.1GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core  Graphics card: Nvidia GeForce GT 520, ATI Radeon 4250  Motherboard: ASUS M4A88T-M17:21
kdeuserRavus: then you will be just fine.. We are here to help you in case you have any issues after install17:21
RavusIs the Windows installer any good?17:22
cfhowlettRavus, do I read correctly that you running both nvidia AND ati GPU???17:22
kdeuserRavus: you mean wubi? yes17:22
Ravuscfhowlett That's right.17:22
cfhowlettRavus, wubi is great for TESTING ubuntu .. it's stated purpose.  It's not a permanent install solution ...17:22
cfhowlettRavus, and you might have to do a bit of jiggering with 2 competing gpu's...17:23
kdeuserRavus: Get the desktop version of ubuntu and try it out from the disc to check if you have any problems with any hardware17:23
Arvenduguys in ubuntu any download manager avail like windows have17:24
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nexus`yeah17:24
kdeuserArvendu: tons..17:24
Arvenduname plz17:24
nexus`synaptic is default it hink17:24
cfhowlettArvendu, download manager?  you mean torrents?17:24
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nexus`oh i thought he meant package17:25
kdeuserArvendu: i use kget as I am on kde17:25
Arvenduno mate ..links download manager17:25
Arvendulike Windows have IDM,Flashget ,Dap etc17:25
kdeuserkget can download both torrents and normal files17:25
nexus`oh um17:25
nexus`Arvendu: just google flashget ubuntu17:25
nexus`it will pop up some alternative17:25
jcabo_kdeuser: for torrents in kde don't forget to check out QBitTorrent (it has an option to download sequentially)17:26
nexus`jdownloader i think?17:26
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kdeuserArvendu: my personal fav is wget though its command line based.. you have gui based versions also17:26
nexus`jcabo_: lots of private trackers have blacklisted qbitorrent17:26
kdeuserjcabo_: thanks, will check it out17:26
Arvenduyeah ...17:26
RavusSo, what is the deal with games on Ubuntu? Am I only able to play my Left 4 Dead on it?17:26
GermainZ|PhoneI use downthemall17:26
GermainZ|PhoneIt's a firefox extension17:26
Arvenduthese days linux is very famous :)17:26
jcabo_nexus`: I didn't know that, though I never use private trackers. Thanks for the info17:26
nexus`transmission is the way to go for torrents17:26
nexus`or rtorrent with rutorrent webgui17:27
Arvendutransmission,rtorrent :D17:27
ArvenduRtorrent best :D17:27
cfhowlettRavus, see software center/games... there are dozens if not hundreds17:27
nexus`i forgot about downthemall GermainZ|Phone17:27
nexus`theres your solution Arvendu17:27
ErtanERBEKDear All, How can I disable ecryptfs system without delete my home folder, did you have any information about this issue ?17:27
mandoguitutorrent server seems to work fine here too17:27
Arvendu;)17:27
Ravuscfhowlett Is that a native program on Ubuntu, such as an app market?17:27
Arvenduis it linux internet have faster access then windows?17:28
nexus`no17:28
cfhowlettRavus, right, the Ubuntu Software Center ...17:28
ThinkT510Arvendu: network speed has little to do with the os17:28
nexus`your internet speed is based on the config file your ISP sends to the modem17:28
nexus`you can do a little tweaking on your end but not a whole lot17:28
nexus`messing with the MTU and such17:28
Arvendukk17:28
nexus`ive never noticed much of a difference though17:29
RavusI am getting  Ubuntu at 100kb/s, I'll be gone while this is downloading. Thanks for the help guys.17:29
nexus`enjoy it Ravus :)17:29
Arvendubut one thing more ...when i run live mode of ubuntu i am not able to see my ssid wifi network but network is enable17:29
nexus`download network manager17:29
nexus`or that may be an issue with live cd i dunno17:30
nexus`have u tried it installed on your HDD?17:30
cfhowlettRavus, best of luck17:30
ThinkT510Arvendu: likely you haven't got the wifi driver installed. broadcom i guess?17:30
* cfhowlett bets 10 RMB on broadcom !17:30
Arvendui have dell inspiron 152517:31
ThinkT510Arvendu: lspci17:31
xsrHuntyou can not modify your internet speed from some config file sent by your isp !!17:31
nexus`not anymore17:31
Arvendui am in windows right now17:31
xsrHuntthe speed of your internet connection is programmed at the phone exchange17:31
nexus`years ago you could uncap your cable modem with some ISP's17:31
nexus`surfboard 420017:32
ThinkT510Arvendu: open up the device manager then17:32
xsrHuntoh, sorry, i must of came half way, my apologies17:32
nexus`trick it into reading the config file from your computer instead of the ISP network17:32
nexus`but wha ti was getting at is that you can change your computer network settings17:32
nexus`however ive never noticed much if any difference17:32
Arvendudell wireless 1395 Wlan17:33
xsrHunti remember during the modem days we did some tricks similar to those17:33
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nexus`back when we first got broadband here we only had 2mbit17:33
nexus`and i uncapped mine up to 20/2017:33
Arvendund marvell yukon 88E8040 Lan driver17:33
nexus`ran it for like a year before they upgraded and you couldnt do it anymore17:33
xsrHuntits awesome to get back on irc ... its been .... a bit over 14 years !! lol17:34
ErtanERBEKanyone canhelp me ?17:34
mandoguitRavus:   with respect to your dual graphics card  see    https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki      you may need bumblebee for the nvidia side of things17:34
ArvenduThinkT510 u here?17:34
cfhowlettErtanERBEK, restate the problem17:34
nexus`ive still got a surfboard 4200 with firmware hack in a drawer somewhere17:34
ThinkT510Arvendu: lan is your ethernet17:34
ThinkT510Arvendu: thats the wired network17:34
Arvenduyes i know m8 but i want wifi driver which is dell wireless 139517:34
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escottmandoguit, i thought bumblebee was for laptop graphics switching, not Ravus multiple graphics cards in a desktop17:35
ErtanERBEKcfhowlett, I want remove ecryptfs folder feature from my computer17:35
ArvenduThink510 http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php17:35
ThinkT510Arvendu: there you go, broadcom17:36
ErtanERBEKit is mean I am using ecryptfs home folder now but working very slowly and I want delete that feature without delete my home folder17:36
escottErtanERBEK, copy your files (excluding ~/.Private) out of $HOME and into a new folder in /home/newhome or the like. then switch homes, and then delete the /home/oldhome/.Private17:36
cfhowlettErtanERBEK, ah yes.  I read a tutorial for that as I also installed ecrypt.  I decided that I'lll just have to wait for the next point release, reformat my drive and reinstall ...17:36
mandoguitescott:  some lappy's come with the dual setup17:36
nexus`Arvendu: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wireless-internet/161177-dell-wireless-1395-ubuntu.html17:36
nexus`scroll down to second post17:36
ErtanERBEKcfhowlett, escott thank you for your suggestion17:36
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nexus`if that doesnt work i just started here: https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+driver+dell+wireless+1395&aq=f&oq=ubuntu+driver+dell+wireless+1395&aqs=chrome.0.57j0l3.3209&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-817:36
mandoguitescott:  Optimus is what it's called iirc17:36
escottmandoguit, Ravus already left the channel but his was not a laptop. it was a desktop. gaming machine with two cards17:36
cfhowlettErtanERBEK, best of luck17:36
Arvendunexus is this for Wireless or wired connection ?17:37
escottErtanERBEK, you also have encrypted swap which you might want to swapoff, mkswap on the real device and then swapon as well as doing whatever to decommission the dmcrypt swap device17:38
nexus`at the bottom it says for wired but that thing it is downloading is a start17:38
ErtanERBEKescott, I am not use any swap area17:38
nexus`you need it apparently17:38
nexus`try to install it and see if it shows up17:38
Arvenduk17:38
ErtanERBEKI already have 16Gb memory unit at my leptop17:38
mandoguitescott:    ahhh...ok.   wasn't sure but just thought I'd mention it as it was a new install/user/newbie etc17:38
ErtanERBEKand I am realy not understadn my SSD disk readk speed 25 MB/s and write speed 13 Mb/s with ecryptfs system :D17:39
Arvendunexus last question i have two partition right now....C Drive is windows and D Drive is backup i want to remove C Drive and install Ubuntu and i want to mass with D17:39
ErtanERBEKnormal this disk can write 260 MB/s and read 300 MB/s D17:39
escottErtanERBEK, it does go through fuse so thats a couple more memory copies17:39
ErtanERBEKhow ecryptfs system downgrade my disk system speed I am realy not understand17:39
nexus`just repartition them17:39
nexus`what do you mean mass with D17:40
Arvendui do not want to delete D Drive becz there is my backup available17:40
nexus`when you are running the installation of ubuntu just select the C to reformat and partition17:40
fox__اه17:41
fox__ااه17:41
fox__شو17:41
nexus`and make sure you select make a separate partition for /home as that will come in handy17:41
fox__حدا يرد17:41
xsrHuntdont format into FAT whatever u do17:41
fox__ألوووووووووو17:41
FloodBot1fox__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:41
fox__مرحبا17:41
ErtanERBEKI am getting my home folder now aftr try escott suggestion17:41
cfhowlettfox__, eglish???17:41
ErtanERBEKSorry my bad englis, I gettin backup my home folder to another USB3 disk after try change home folder17:42
nexus`Arvendu: you have 1 HDD right?17:42
nexus`and C/D are the partition on it correct?17:42
nexus`if that is the case then during install just reformat C and tell ubuntu to use the free space partition to install17:43
nexus`D will be left alone17:43
jcabo_ErtanERBEK: be careful, or you might loose file permissions and hidden files, depending on how you copy your home folder.17:43
jcabo_ErtanERBEK: if you copy to an usb formatted as FAT32, you will loose file permissions17:43
Arvenduk just suppose if i want to delete both drive and Create two partiton then ?17:43
nexus` u wanna get rid of D?17:44
Arvenduyes17:44
ThinkT510!partitioning | Arvendu17:44
ubottuArvendu: For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap17:44
nexus`then just reformat the whole drive17:44
ErtanERBEKI open all hidden file firstly ctrl+h and reslect all file with crtl+a after start copy progress17:44
luisgmarinehello guys I'm trying to set up a nice basic home server running out of my desktop machine.  I just want to be able to access all my movies , music, etc from the other machines on my network.  I've googled several how to tutotirials but no matter what I try I can never see the file from any other computer17:44
nexus`during install you can create partitions17:44
jcabo_ErtanERBEK: unless you compress it with tar.gz, as follows:    'tar cvzf filename.tgz /home/<your_home>'17:44
ErtanERBEKThank you for your suggestion JC_SoCal17:44
nexus`it's fairly simple the GUI will tell you how17:44
JC_SoCalwhich suggestions was this?17:44
Arvenduk guys :) will back in few moments after installation done :)17:44
escottErtanERBEK, don't do it through nautilus17:44
ArvenduByee Thanks TC :D17:44
nexus`good luck17:44
ErtanERBEKJC_SoCal, I have 60 GB daha in my home folder My idea tar.gz not god selection for me :D17:45
JC_SoCalum ... your welcome?17:45
escottErtanERBEK, you dont want a tar. you need to be able to use your copy to verify it is correct17:45
Mehrdadgoogle sucks17:45
ErtanERBEKjcabo_, I have 60 GB daha in my home folder My idea tar.gz not god selection for me :D17:45
jcabo_ErtanERBEK: if I were you, I would copy to a different directory in the same harddisk, outside /home/<your_Home>, which will not be under ecryptfs17:45
JC_SoCal^^ haha mistaken identity17:45
MehrdadBing > Google17:45
nexus`blasphemy Mehrdad17:46
nexus`google is a programmers #1 best friend17:46
nexus`and anyone who uses linux17:47
jcabo_ErtanERBEK: or first copy the big files to a usb, so that what you have to put in the .tgz are just the configuration files of home.17:47
nexus`a lot of questions that are asked in here are solved easily by being able to know how to use google right17:47
Mehrdadhttp://www.google.com/search?q=Histrionic+Personality+Disorder+social+anxiety&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=117:47
Mehrdadnexus` again, what?17:47
nexus`?17:47
Mehrdadalso what is the offtopic channel for ubuntu ?17:47
nexus`idk17:47
nexus`##linux?17:48
jcabo_ErtanERBEK: 'cp -a' is recursive and preserves file permissions17:48
ErtanERBEKDear Friends, I want ask to you17:48
ThinkT510!offtopic | Mehrdad17:48
ubottuMehrdad: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:48
nexus`he'll have to use cp -r to do the directory jcabo_17:48
ErtanERBEKfirst of all I get my all data to another disk17:48
jcabo_ErtanERBEK: 'cp -a' is recursive and preserves file permissions17:48
ErtanERBEKafter delete my home folder and re copy all data another disk to my main disk17:48
nexus`oh nvm jcabo_ you are right17:48
escottnexus`, -a includes -dR17:48
nexus`just looked at the man17:48
oberthello, i am trying to install kate via package manager but everytime i got it installed as root17:49
nexus`manual17:49
nexus`learned something new17:49
nexus`:)17:49
FloodBot1nexus`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:49
jcabo_ErtanERBEK: On the other hand, if all you care about is data, and not configuration files, then copy to usb is fine.17:49
ErtanERBEKbut how can stop ecryptfs system17:49
WizekHello! Do .desktop files support drag-and-drop funcionality from the unity launcher?17:49
jcabo_ErtanERBEK: to stop ecryptfs is easy: just create another user (see System Settings)17:49
ErtanERBEKI mean how can I stop ecryptfs mount system17:50
WizekI mean drag and drop onto them17:50
ErtanERBEKjcabo_, But I want use same user17:50
jcabo_ErtanERBEK: after you created another user, copy the files from /home/<old_user> to /home/<new_user>/17:50
ErtanERBEKbecause I have many configuration at password and group side and other system folder for this user17:50
jcabo_ErtanERBEK: maybe this will help you, it involves creating another user as an intermediate step though: http://virtually-a-machine.blogspot.com.ar/2010/08/howto-disable-ecryptfs.html17:52
ErtanERBEKThank jcabo_17:53
BECadamk, I've done the following: http://paste2.org/p/2845925 (excluding the ,.) but I still have problems17:53
zetherooYou have a bunch of text - enough for 10 - 20 pages - and you want to have this text laid out in a document with embedded audio files which you can click on to listen to. -- How would one accomplish this in Linux? :D17:55
cfhowlettzetheroo, libreoffice impress???17:55
marchtempzetheroo: HTML517:56
BECadamk, I also tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/35968/multi-screen-problems-virtual-size-does-not-fit-available-size (Catalyst reply!)17:56
jcabo_ErtanERBEK: before you try that guide, do a backup of important data first though!17:56
zetheroocfhowlett: unfortunately my experiences with LibreOffice in this regard have been dismally negative :P17:56
zetheroomarchtemp: so basically making a website out of it ... ?17:57
marchtempI have a problem with ALSA in Ubuntu minimal, I've installed alsa-utils, and alsa-tools, but the sound only works in headphones.17:57
marchtempzetheroo: Not a website, but a bunch of HTML pages.17:57
zetheroomarchtemp: right17:57
zetheroomarchtemp: but for someone who knows nothing of coding in HTML is there a program that can do this ?17:58
marchtempzetheroo: I know there are projects that help you create a local media library with HTML.17:59
zetheroomarchtemp: hmm .. sounds interesting ..17:59
ThinkT510zetheroo: perhaps ask in ##linux since your question isn't really ubuntu specific18:00
marchtempzetheroo: I don't know your background, I suggest learning HTML, it's easy.18:00
marchtempThinkT510: I have an Ubuntu specific question.18:00
zetherooThinkT510: good thought ... how do you like your T510? Did the T510 already come with the chicklet keyboard? ;)18:01
nayrisHello everone, am new to Ubuntu and i need some help to set my Thunderbird , Any one ?18:01
ThinkT510zetheroo: not sure what you mean by chicklet but i like my thinkpad very much18:01
ThinkT510marchtemp: i have no issues with alsa so i can't really help you sorry18:01
zetherooThinkT510: your first Thinkpad?18:01
ThinkT510zetheroo: nope, my first was a t4018:02
nayrisi am using a thinkpad my self :D sl510 too18:02
marchtempThinkT510: Does 12.04 use pulse or alsa or both?18:02
ThinkT510marchtemp: both18:02
marchtempThinkT510: How do they not conflict?18:02
marchtempMaybe I need to install pulse.18:03
zetherooThinkT510: ok, then is the keyboard on the T510 the same as the T40?18:03
ThinkT510marchtemp: i'm not the most knowledgable regarding the sound system but i think pulse and alsa do slightly different things18:03
ThinkT510zetheroo: no18:03
ClientAliveI need to move about a dozen files over ssh to my other other computer. Is there a way to pipe the filenames in or something? (some easier way to issue the command so I don't have to type out every file name)?18:03
marchtempClientAlive: Tar or zip them and scp the archive.18:04
jcabo_nayris: you can move your thunderbird profile and retain all configuration and emails from a previous thunderbird installation (even from windows)18:04
marchtempjcabo_: I think he quit.18:04
jcabo_ohh sorry18:05
jcabo_you're right18:05
ClientAliveI I have all the individual files tarred....  :s18:05
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marchtempClientAlive: so what tar doesn't care.18:05
ThreepwoodClientAlive:  or "scp -r sourceFolder username@host:targetFolder18:05
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zetheroomarchtemp: running 12.04 here with pulseaudio 1:1.1-0ubuntu15.2 installed18:06
marchtempzetheroo: I only have the base system. No DE.18:06
zetherooand alsa-base 1.0.25+dfsg-0ubuntu118:06
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kha0s1i have an issue with crash with bumblebee-ui and ubuntu 12.10 (updated)18:06
ClientAliveThreepwood: then what? When I get them on the other computer do a mv on every file name to get them back out of the folder? This is an operation to add media files to an existing collection on the other machine.18:07
ThinkT510kha0s1: bumblebee isn't really supported here18:07
ErtanERBEKjcabo_, I found one document about transfer ecryptfs user document to another use account http://www.howtogeek.com/116179/how-to-disable-home-folder-encryption-after-installing-ubuntu/18:08
kha0s1Ok ThinkT510 I have reported to the github issue too18:08
ThreepwoodClientAlive:  dont have a clue what you are doing here, but the go on with the "tar em all" advice18:08
zetherooThinkT510: just checked .. the T510 still has the legendary Keyboard - nice!! ;)18:08
jcabo_ErtanERBEK: that guide will work fine too18:09
ThinkT510zetheroo: i made sure my t510 wasn't optimus18:09
ErtanERBEKthank you for your assitance dear jcabo_18:09
zetherooThinkT510: I have a R61, T400, T40p and T42 here .. and my wife uses a T61 ... Nothing but Thinkpad for me :D18:09
jcabo_ErtanERBEK: :-) no problem!!18:09
zetherooThinkT510: by Optimus your referring to the NVIDIA gfx? Why did you avoid it?18:10
ThinkT510zetheroo: optimus is nvidia plus intel switchable graphics18:10
Chiku|dchum is it normal ? tcp6       0      0 127.0.0.1:61613         :::*                    LISTEN      110        27735       26899/java18:10
marchtempI don't really want to install pulse. Can I make my sound work with speakers with ALSA only?18:11
zetherooThinkT510: yes - but why did you avoid it?18:11
ThinkT510zetheroo: so i could have a working laptop18:11
ClientAlivewell, it seems to me if I put everything in one directory on the sending computer I will still have to get the contents of that directory out on the recieving computer - and that takes me right back to typing out 12 long file names into a ludacrous long command (or compying and pasting 12 long file names into a ludacrous long command) - in order to get the files back out of the directory I sent them to the other computer in.18:11
zetherooThinkT510: I have ATI/Intel switchable on my T400 ... and it's running Ubuntu 12.04 fine ...18:11
Chiku|dclistening on tcp6 with ipv4 address ?18:11
zetherooThinkT510: you just have to disable the auto-switching in the BIOS - but you can still use both cards18:12
ClientAliveSo I'm wondering if there is a way to use a pipe or variable in the command so I can send the 12 files outside of a containing directory and into the existing directory on the other machine that already contains over 100 similar media files.18:12
ThinkT510zetheroo: why get it in the first place if you can't autoswitch?18:12
l3g3ndhow do i add ip blockers like on windows with the application called peerblock18:12
ioriamarchtemp: i disintalled pulseaudio and i'm ok ... but i'm on lubuntu here.18:13
ClientAliveI can't afford for anything to get clobbered or corrupted in this process - these are the only copies18:13
marchtempioria: The problem is: ALSA works with headphones only. I have no idea what is going on.18:13
BluesKajmarchtemp, laptop ?18:14
zetherooThinkT510: well if I need the higher powered gfx for something in particular I can boot into BIOS, select the ATI gfx and then boot into Ubuntu ... since I have an SSD in my T400 the boot time is lightning fast - so I can switch the gfx card within less 30 seconds18:14
marchtempBluesKaj: Yes.18:14
blackjackhy all18:15
blackjack I'm still confused with this topology, in my ubuntu server using 2 nic, one onboard headed to swith, the second nic toward mikrotik, mikrotik ip 192.168.1.2, http://postimage.org/image/91p7e8eyj/18:15
ThreepwoodClientAlive: you can also use a gui-approach (filezilla) if typing 12 times the "same" scp command is too much :)18:15
ThinkT510zetheroo: that sounds awfully clunky to me, but i'm glad you are happy with the solution18:15
marchtempBluesKaj: Ubuntu minimal 12.04, Installed alsa-base, alsa-tools, alsa-utils..18:15
blackjackcan help my ?18:15
BluesKajmarchtemp, which sound card ?18:15
GeekSquidl3g3nd: check out this link... it is the easy peasy way of blocking things https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW18:15
ClientAliveok ok18:15
ClientAlivethx18:15
marchtempBluesKaj: Inted HDA something18:15
zetherooThinkT510: LOL, I have only done it twice since getting the laptop - the Intel gfx are very sufficient.18:16
ioriamarchtemp: if you type alsamixer ?18:16
ThreepwoodClientAlive: no problem, maybe there is a better approach, but i cant tell you more18:16
ClientAlivenp18:16
l3g3ndgeeksquid-thanks18:16
zetherooThinkT510: besides the Intel gfx run cooler and consume less power - so better for battery life :P18:16
marchtempioria: it brings the volume levels. I also have gnome-alsamixer18:16
scratchyback18:17
BluesKajmarchtemp, ,ok , firstly you probly have pulesaudio installed , recommend you also install it's gui , pavucontrol , helps with enabling inputs and outputs18:17
ClientAliveThreepwood: I'm wondering if somthing like: ls | scp sending: ./18:17
ioriamarchtemp: maybe you should change the settings of your player18:17
ClientAlivewould work18:17
ClientAliveI can see that isn't syntactically correct tho and not sure if it would even work18:17
marchtempBluesKaj: I don't think I have it installed.18:18
ThreepwoodClientAlive: thats basically the same as scp folder ... if you want to select only some files thats another story18:18
marchtempioria: I tried it with speaker-test.18:18
scratchyok got the minimal installed with xfce18:18
scratchyvery happy with the results18:18
jcabo_ClientAlive: see 'man xargs' to pipe arguments to the next command18:18
ThinkT510!yay | scratchy18:19
ubottuscratchy: Glad you made it! :-)18:19
BluesKajmarchtemp, open a console , type pulseaudio18:19
ThreepwoodClientAlive: I think you can also "add" the files to your existing folder, scp ist "the same" as a lokal cp (at least it got very similar behaviour)18:19
ClientAliveThreepwood: well, not really, scp can take multiple files to send in it's command. If I can get them into the stream without typeing them out I'm golden18:19
Taylr0xGood evening all.18:19
marchtempBluesKaj: No commands start with pulse.18:19
MikeHAny suggestions why despite the installer saying I have over 4.9GB space available, it won't let me install the boot loader to my hard drive?18:19
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jcabo_ClientAlive: but what you are looking for is this:       for a in *; do scp $a sending:/  ; done18:19
ThreepwoodClientAlive: does the folder contain only files you need or also some others?18:19
scratchyIt looks very clean :) made me a happy camper...Id like to invest some time now in securing my system. Since im going to use it on public wireless network. Already got a root password. Is there a good firewall available that you could recommend ?18:20
marchtempBluesKaj: ls /usr/bin | grep pulse returns nothing18:20
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jcabo_ClientAlive: try it first with 'echo' as in :       for a in *; do echo scp $a sending:/  ; done18:20
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ThinkT510scratchy: you shouldn't set a root password for a desktop system18:20
ClientAlivewhat Threepwood ways - a mixture of directories actually. But the ones I need to move are .tar.gz which is treated like a file (no -r needed).18:20
threepihi18:20
ThinkT510!noroot | scratchy18:20
ubottuscratchy: We do not support setting a root password. You're free to do it on your own machine, but please don't offer instructions on how to set a root password or ask for help with setting it. See !root and !wfm for more information.18:20
ClientAlivejcabo_: I'll experiment with that18:21
ClientAlivethx18:21
ioriamarchtemp: if you type ps -A , can you see pulseaudio ?18:21
scratchyno I know :)18:21
threepifor some odd reason i can't seem to access any programs that are installed int he /opt folder, albeit proper permissions set... is there a knowable reason for this?18:21
scratchyI got it set18:21
scratchylol18:21
scratchyjust asking18:21
FloodBot1scratchy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:21
scratchyyou know anygood firewalls18:21
jcabo_ClientAlive: you can use *.tgz instead of * too.18:21
marchtempioria: I'm pretty possitive that I don't have it installed.18:21
ClientAlivejcabo_: cool  :)18:21
ThinkT510!ufw | scratchy18:21
ubottuscratchy: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.18:21
marchtempioria: ps -A | grep pulse. no results.18:22
obertcan i know how to install kate properly? not as root but as user, in order to let it save config18:22
Taylr0xIs anyone able to point me in the direction of a list of desktop environments you can run whilst operating Ubuntu please?18:22
Taylr0xWant something like Fluxbox (used this YEARS ago when running Gentoo).18:23
ThinkT510obert: all software installation has to be done via sudo18:23
BluesKajmarchtemp, then just install it18:23
obertThinkT510: i'm using software package18:23
ioriamarchtemp: which player do you use ?18:23
ClientAlivejcabo_: well wait a cotton pickin minute here. Now just *.tar.gz will list all .tar.gz file (ie: ls *.tar.gz) - so why can't I just go: scp sender:/*.tar.gz ./receiving/end18:23
ClientAlive??18:23
marchtempBluesKaj: Do I need pulse to get my speakers to work?18:23
nathansuchyHey I need help configuring some software can anyone help?18:23
marchtempioria: mplayer, smplayer.18:24
jcabo_ClientAlive: I'm not sure, why don't you try it?18:24
ThreepwoodClientAlive: what about scp `find -L sourceFolder -name "*tar.gz"` user@host:targetFolder18:24
obertThinkT510: point is that when i modify kate config it will no be saved18:24
ThinkT510!info fluxbox | Taylr0x18:24
ubottuTaylr0x: fluxbox (source: fluxbox): Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.2-4 (quantal), package size 1087 kB, installed size 3905 kB18:24
ClientAliveI better make a copy of this crap and do it on the copy18:24
obertThinkT510: since kate's config is under root18:24
ClientAlivehere goes nuthin I guess18:24
nathansuchyI need help configuring some software can anyone help18:24
BluesKajmarchtemp, dunno for sure , but on my setup I need pulse to get audio on websites to work18:24
ThinkT510obert: why are you trying to modify kate's config?18:24
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marchtempBluesKaj: What DE?18:25
Taylr0xThanks ThinkT510. Is there any desktop environment you know of that's quite clean and minimalistic? I like the default Gnome but it just seems too 'beginner friendly'.18:25
obertThinkT510: default config is weird: no line number and such18:25
nathansuchyI need to get Hulu Desktop Linux to recognize Adobe Flashplayer?18:25
ThreepwoodClientAlive: try to get the files you need with find and adjust the command above18:25
nathansuchyI need to get Hulu Desktop Linux to recognize Adobe Flashplayer? Can anyone help???18:25
ThinkT510Taylr0x: my favourite is xfce18:25
BluesKajmarchtemp, on KDE and Unity18:25
Threepwoodmaybe thats what you need18:25
nathansuchyI need to get Hulu Desktop Linux to recognize Adobe Flashplayer?18:25
Taylr0x!info xfce18:25
ubottuPackage xfce does not exist in quantal18:25
ioriamarchtemp: try to go in preferences and in audio select alsa with your audio device18:26
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ThinkT510!info xfce4 | Taylr0x18:26
ubottuTaylr0x: xfce4 (source: xfce4): Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.10.0 (quantal), package size 4 kB, installed size 31 kB18:26
threepianyone know of the best driver to use for radeon 5770?18:26
cfhowlett!info xfce418:26
Taylr0xAh many thanks!18:26
marchtempioria: What preferences, I don't have Unity installed.18:26
Taylr0xHow simple is that to install/replace the default desktop environment on Ubuntu?18:26
BluesKajioria, his headphone work , his speakers don't18:26
BluesKajheadphones work18:27
xanguaTaylr0x: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop , if you want xfce18:27
ioriamarchtemp: i meant mplayer preferences, btw18:27
threepifor some odd reason i can't seem to access any programs that are installed int he /opt folder, albeit proper permissions set... is there a knowable reason for this?18:27
ThinkT510Taylr0x: no need to remove anything, just login to that desktop via the login manager (it will be default for next time)18:27
BluesKajok  ... this going nowhwere ..bbl18:27
Taylr0xSimple as that? Lovely. Many thanks for the help ThinkT510  and xangua! Will take a peak at that now. Looking at the screenshots it seems to be near what I'm after!18:28
marchtempioria: Speakers don't work with aplay or speaker-test. I'm pretty sure, mplayer will fail too.18:28
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obertThinkT510: no way to fix it?18:28
Taylr0xBefore I do anything, can I install desktop environments on a USB live CD boot? Or do I need to have this installed as my main OS before doing anything that involved?18:29
Taylr0xAlso, is there anything you recommend I run before installing Ubuntu to make sure all hardware is supported? As I have a feeling my graphics card may not be.18:29
ThinkT510obert: edit the config file with a text editor via sudo (commandline) or gksudo (graphical)18:29
cfhowlett!hardware|Taylor, check the list18:30
ubottuTaylor, check the list: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection18:30
ThinkT510Taylr0x: what graphics?18:30
MikeHCan anyone help? I'm trying to install ubuntu, however it's trying to install to the USB stick (1GB) that I'm running the installer from rather than the 1TB HD that is connected18:30
marchtempBluesKaj: ioria: Thank you, guys. I guess I'll just try to install pulse.18:30
BluesKajmarchtemp, It's your best bet ..necessary evil IMO18:31
ioriamarchtemp: wait... maybe i found something18:31
threepii guess no one knows about the /opt folder then eh?18:32
ThinkT510threepi: its optional18:32
Taylr0xThinkT510, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470. I've had issues getting this working in the past (considerable time ago now though). Which put me off in the long run.18:32
ioriamarchtemp: askununtu.com/questions/117842/no-sound-from-speakers-but-headphones-work18:32
ThinkT510Taylr0x: that'll work fine18:32
threepiThinkT510, yes do you know why programs installed to there won't open even though their file permissions are correct?18:32
ioriamarchtemp: askubuntu.com/questions/117842/no-sound-from-speakers-but-headphones-work18:33
ThinkT510threepi: no idea sorry18:33
threepiThinkT510, thanks anyway18:33
Taylr0xThinkT510, going to do a fresh install now me thinks! You've been a massive help. Many thanks and speak to you soon hopefully!18:33
threepihas anyone installed acrobat reader, successfully on ubuntu?18:33
Taylr0xOn a side note, this new bar that they've introduced on the left hand side of the screen. Do you have to have this on display/ at all?18:34
cfhowlettthreepi, yes18:34
Taylr0xWith the default installation I mean.18:34
ThinkT510Taylr0x: thats the default environment: unity18:34
ThinkT510!xubuntu | Taylr0x18:34
ubottuTaylr0x: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels18:34
Taylr0xThinkT510, Can you relocate it to the botom/top?18:34
ThinkT510Taylr0x: no18:34
SunilJoshiHi, can i configure Terminal to paste on right click of my mouse instead of middle click...18:34
threepicfhowlett, what folder is it installed into?18:35
Taylr0xOooh. Might give Xubtuntu a bash now. Be back soon and thank you again!~18:35
jcabo_Taylr0x: if you want something more classical, you can try Kubuntu too (my personal favorite)18:35
cfhowlettthreepi, oh man, that was so long ago ... I don't even have it anymore as evince does the job ... sorry18:36
IboSwhat's the less memory eater between all ubuntu distros ?18:36
l057c0d3rjcabo_,  heh or gnome cairo-dock setup18:36
l057c0d3rhttp://uppix.net/4/7/1/62aa966e6e6efbf25af857b3c9e89.png18:36
IboSi have an hold pc18:36
threepievince doesn't do highlighting right?18:36
cfhowlettIboS, xubuntu and lubuntu are both lightweight18:36
ThinkT510!lubuntu | IboS18:36
ubottuIboS: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.18:36
obertThinkT510: is that the classic way? why there's Preferences in the menu then?:)18:36
heywoodran apt-get dist-upgrade two nights ago. got a message saying "restart required" (or something along those lines). after i did so, i can no longer ssh into the box (error is "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host").18:37
ThinkT510obert: no idea, i don't use kate18:37
obertThinkT510: generally speaikin18:37
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ThinkT510obert: do you see a save button for your preferences?18:37
obertThinkT510: sure18:38
heywoodanyone else having issues with ssh like this? do ubuntu upgrades mess with /etc/hosts.allow or /etc/hosts.deny ?18:38
l057c0d3rheywood.. no sure but you should check to make sure its all set up right..  maybe check the ssh key like you did when you created it for the first time ext....18:39
l057c0d3rnot really sure though dont use it much18:39
l057c0d3rand never had that problem18:39
big_mikehey guys, could somebody help me with an issue with nouveau?18:40
obertThinkT510: something are weird18:40
alamiany one can tell one why i can't find irssi silc client package18:40
matiasbaterohi big_mike18:40
jcabo_heywood: here is a website, the comments in the article might give some clues: http://edoceo.com/notabene/ssh-exchange-identification18:41
heywoodjcabo_: heh. i'm looking at that very page in another window...18:41
MrL0ngbowmanKDE ftw!18:41
matiasbaterowhat is your problem?.. i'm not expert..18:41
WhiteRussian+OK FE5691v18Ky1KpcUr07lXNX.18:41
jcabo_heywood: sorry I can only give you a website, I haven't experienced the problem personally. Also, review the sshd configuration (login as root is almost always disabled for instance)18:42
heywoodjcabo_: no worries. problem is that i'm not in the same place as the server, so i have to walk someone through troubleshooting.18:42
W|cKeDhttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/ <-- is this site legit? why can't i get the linux-header in my synaptic package manager!? thanx18:42
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SunilJoshiHi, can i configure Terminal to paste on right click of my mouse instead of middle click...18:43
heywoodadd in the fact that they're not computer-savvy (and definitely not comfortable on the commandline), and a slightly wonky keyboard... and you get the fun i'm having this afternoon.18:43
ThinkT510W|cKeD: ppas, all of them, are unsupported here18:43
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big_mikematiasbatero: Yeah so this happened multiple times, where XOrg would crash and and my cpu usage goes through the roof because nouveau is logging to it. I end up with a 2+ gb log file of the same message18:43
heywoodjcabo_: FWIW, not logging in as root. (root sshd logins are disabled, as is root in general on that machine.)18:44
llutzobert: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && find ~/.kde -type f -iname '*kate*' |xargs ls -l  |pastebinit"18:44
llutzobert: then paste the resulting link here please18:44
heywoodjcabo_: weird thing is that the problems started right after i rebooted following the dist-upgrade. up until then, everything was working just fine.18:44
heywoodso the ubuntu update seems to have changed/borked something.18:45
jcabo_heywood: in this website:  http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com.ar/2010/02/dist-upgrade-misnomer-confusion.html a comment says  "I've found that during a run of do-release-upgrade I'll be unable to ssh in to that machine"18:45
obertllutz: that will make my computer exploding?18:45
stevesmenameI could use some assistance understanding what "alsamixer" is and will do? I have a current problem where I have no sound cards found. I read something that alsamixer is just an app that will allow you to change your volume settings but I have a problem where sound cards are not seen. I ask here because I saw another post that states "alsamixer" installed will find your sound cards too.18:45
llutzobert: no, it will just give us the chance to look at some permissions of kate-configfiles18:45
obertls -l isnt enought?:)18:46
ArvenduHello guys i m back :D18:46
llutzobert: paste those lines,but use pastebin NOT here18:46
heywoodstevesmename: take a look at http://linux.die.net/man/1/alsamixer if you haven't already.18:46
obertllutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1633948/18:46
heywoodstevesmename: it's text-based, which is clunky, but it might work.18:46
ThinkT510stevesmename: alsamixer is run in a terminal, it lets you manage your sound settings18:46
Arvendunexus u here?18:46
obertllutz: it gives me the pastebin url at end ;)18:46
Arvendui have installed ubuntu now need really some help18:47
llutzobert: "sudo find ~/.kde  -iname '*kate*' |xargs chown ar:ar "18:47
jcabo_heywood: here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/connection-to-ssh-closing-immediately-520565/       "You have a problem with your ssh upgrade. Uninstall, then reinstall."18:47
stevesmenameheywood++18:47
stevesmenameThinkT510++18:47
llutzobert: and thats is one reason you shouldn't use "sudo kate" (there is gksudo)18:47
Arvenduwhen i am logged in it is just normal user how can i logged in using root user?18:47
ThinkT510!root | Arvendu18:47
ubottuArvendu: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo18:47
obertllutz: i never use sudo18:47
ArgoHello guys18:47
jcabo_heywood: it says to do: 'dpkg -l | grep ssh'   Make sure all the ssh packages are uninstalled. Then reinstall ssh. 'apt-get remove --purge openssh-client openssh-server' 'apt-get install ssh'18:48
obertllutz: chown: illegal act18:48
stevesmenameArgo: Affleck? :P18:48
Arvenduk Think can u pm u please ?18:48
llutzobert: sudo find ~/.kde  -iname '*kate*' -exec chown ar:ar "{}" \;18:48
ThinkT510Arvendu: yes, because you asked nicely18:49
W|cKeDThinkT510, i see thanx, i'm just desperate on how i can config my BCM4312 wireless in ubuntu 10.04 2.6.32-21-generic STA broadcom ain't working i'm plannin to use b43 instead18:49
matiasbateroArvendu: use sudo, or gksu18:49
obertdone18:49
llutzobert: did you copy those configs from somewhere then? by default those wouldn't be root-owned18:49
ThinkT510!b43 | W|cKeD18:49
ubottuW|cKeD: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx18:49
heywoodjcabo_: thanks. hadn't thought of that, but i'll give it a try. (or rather i will ask my "proxy" to do so.)18:49
Arvenduthanks :)18:49
ArgoI'd love to try Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro, but when I use the instructions ( http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx ) and reboot with rEFIt installed, i get a "error loading operating system".18:49
obertllutz: i only launched ubuntu software and installed it as user18:49
llutzobert: thats odd, sounds like a bug18:50
obert-as user perhaps:p18:50
heywoodjcabo_: do you know if apt's postflight scripts for ssh(d) automatically start the daemon once it's up and running?18:50
heywooder, i mean, once it's installed?18:50
obertwhy? shouldnt be correct to have http://paste.ubuntu.com/1633948/ ?18:50
llutzobert: userconfigs are not to be root-owned18:50
jcabo_heywood: yes, after an upgrade to sshd it automatically comes back up18:51
obertllutz:  no?18:51
llutzobert: you cannot change them, if they are18:51
llutzobert: it makes no sense at all18:51
obertllutz: now it seems to be fixed anyway18:51
jcabo_heywood: if it wasn't up, you would get a different error, like ' computer refusing connection' or something18:51
heywoodjcabo_: ok. lastly, would a remove/install overwrite /etc/ssh/sshd_config?18:51
llutzobert: "find ~ -uid 0"18:51
heywoodjcabo_: no, no, i'm quite sure it's up.18:52
jcabo_heywood: yes (especially with -purge option)18:52
heywoodi can telnet to the port and get the ssh prompts.18:52
jcabo_heywood: if you do apt-get remove (without -purge option) it should be left intact18:52
obertllutz: what is htat18:52
isaiasHow do I dualboot Ubuntu and Windows when I have ubuntu already installed?18:52
llutzobert: find more files root-owned18:52
llutzobert: there shuldn't be any18:52
obertheh lots of them instead. llutz: this is a vm btw18:53
heywoodjcabo_: i can do something like "cp sshd_config sshd_config.bak", unless the remove -purge step removes the entire directory.18:53
llutzobert: vm/no-vm doesn't matter, something is odd there...18:53
obertllutz: a bug could be acceptable perhaps18:53
heywooddoes -purge do anything else that might be useful for the clean install?18:53
jcabo_heywood: let me see18:53
obertllutz: dunno, thanks for the tip though and help18:54
heywoodsorry, if i were sitting at the machine this would be trivial to check. but i'm like a thousand miles away from there :o18:54
janisozauris there libreoffice 4 ppa for precise?18:54
obertllutz: when i install something via software package config files should be owned by user?18:54
llutzobert: if you encounter more issues, just check/repair permissions. this only is valid for users $HOME, not outside!18:54
ArgoDoes anyone have experience with booting ubuntu on OS X using a USB-drive?18:55
llutzobert: packages won't install personal-configs in most cases. they will be created when a user runs the program and then will be user-owned18:55
obertllutz: yup, but i destroied a machine some years ago trying to fix permissionsd, since that i never plaied anymore with them18:55
jcabo_heywood: take a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postrm  in the 'purge)' section, that is what it does18:55
obertmy typing is horrible, sorry18:56
Yankee_Brucenew to linux/ubuntu.  do i need a virus protection application?18:56
obertYankee_Bruce: no virus under linux18:56
heywoodjcabo_: erm, i'd sort of need to be at the console, no? is that source available online somewhere?18:56
jcabo_heywood: the conffiles removed with purge are those listed in the file /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.conffiles18:56
ThinkT510!av | Yankee_Bruce18:56
ubottuYankee_Bruce: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus18:56
llutzobert: as i said, usually there shouldn't be any files inside your $HOME not being owned by you18:56
obertoh18:57
Yankee_Brucelack of trying, or it is inherently resistant18:57
jcabo_heywood: let me see about pastebin'in18:57
heywoodjcabo_: if you have that handy on your machine, could you pastebin it?18:57
matiasbateroYankee_Bruce: No except you have installed windows on a partition i you want to clean that18:57
heywoodjcabo_: GMTA18:57
obertllutz: ok thanks. that's a good clarification18:57
obertllutz: btw what is $ ?:)18:57
llutzobert: in what context?18:57
Yankee_BruceI have installed as a dual boot.  originally XP, now with Ubuntu18:57
obertllutz: which lang18:58
BECadamk, moreover the LG 32" is being detected as 72"!18:58
Sendoushihey guys18:58
llutzobert: dollar-sign? as in $HOME?18:58
heywoodBEC: that's a really inexpensive way to get a much larger monitor.18:58
matiasbateroYankee_Bruce, yeah, virus does not affect linux..18:58
BECheywood, lol18:58
llutzobert: marks a variable (echo $HOME)18:58
obertllutz: yep. i dont remember nothing except php that using $:)18:58
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obertllutz: do you know which lang is?18:59
llutzobert: most shells using it18:59
Yankee_Brucematiasbatero: that is good news.  I was trying to figure out how to get my Nortons to run on it18:59
jcabo_heywood: here you go: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1633991/18:59
obertbash huh?18:59
Sendoushibeen starting to use ubuntu and having some fun with it. Now i want to do a virtual machine for a home server. i'm a developer which wants to try out the development on my own network. Talking about LAMP and Node.js. Should I go with ubuntu or server or... even devian?18:59
isaiasHow do I dualboot Ubuntu and Windows when I have ubuntu already installed?18:59
ArgoDoes anyone have experience with running Ubuntu from a USB-drive with a Mac?18:59
llutzso does bash18:59
matiasbateroYankee_Bruce, but you have problems cleaning XP you must consider to use some antivirus on linux to solve some problems18:59
obertllutz: indeed. thanks18:59
llutzobert: VARTEST="myvariable" ; echo $VARTEST           like this19:00
l057c0d3rYankee_Bruce, wait are you trying to put norton on linux ??19:00
obertmhm weird syntax19:00
Yankee_Brucenatiasbatero, had a problem with a root_kit on my laptop, but finally got it cleared up.  trying to get linux on it, but disk space is limited19:00
ClientAliveIf I do -> "for a in sender:/home/uname/Path/Path/*.tar.gz; do echo scp $a /mnt/media/Video/Movies/Mainstream/; done"  I get -> "scp duckduckgoose:/home/shine/Downloads/Torrent/*.tar.gz /mnt/media/Video/Movies/Mainstream/"  <-  This is close but not perfect. I'm stuck. Any ideas?19:00
Arvenduhow can i make ppoe connection in ubuntu and dial so my internet will work19:00
ClientAliveha ha19:01
ClientAlivewoops!19:01
ClientAliveahh well  :)19:01
compdocno laughing19:01
ThinkT510!pppoe | Arvendu19:01
ubottuArvendu: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE19:01
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Guest37383j19:02
Guest37383l19:02
matiasbateroYankee_Bruce, mm i think that using norton isn't the best choice19:02
W|cKeDis it safe if i'll do a complete removal in my synaptic package manager bout linux-headers that are installed that i didn't know? i got a linux-header 2.6.32-21-generic but i saw some headers installed and related to 2.6.32-21-generic i don't know when and how .... is it safe? thanx19:02
Guest37383salam19:02
heywoodjcabo_: sweet -- thanks. if i read it right, there's no harm in blowing away the host keys -- i'll just get the prompt to add the public side upon first connection. but if i don't create sshd_config.bak, the entire /etc/ssh gets deleted.19:02
ArvenduThanks :D19:02
Guest37383:)19:03
isaiasArgo: Mac was made using linux, so it shouldn't be a problem for it to work. I don't recommend using an usb drive due to the small amount of memory. External HDD would work best. Or a dualboot would work alright though19:03
Guest37383k********19:03
jcabo_heywood: I dunno, but I hope it has been helpful to you19:03
heywoodjcabo_: maybe i'll have my friend do a "cp /etc/ssh/sshd_config ~/sshd_config.bak" -- so i keep a reminder of what i did for the configs, but allow the remove/uninstall -purge to proceed cleanly.19:03
biglinux-buddhaopa!!!19:03
isaiasArgo: and the speed. Ubuntu would run slow because of usb19:04
heywoodjcabo_: yes, that's been extremely helpful. thanks!!19:04
jcabo_heywood: you're welcome!!19:04
ClientAliveneed it to run the cammand like: "scp sender:/path/path/plugInFileName1.tar.gz sender:/path/path/plugInFileName2.tar.gz sender:/path/path/plugInFileName3.tar.gz ./path/to/receiving/"19:04
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heywoodcheers all.19:04
ClientAlive(quotes jsut to offset what I was saying here in irc19:04
ArvenduE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)19:05
ArvenduE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?19:05
Argoisaias: I'm trying to get it working on a 16 GB generic USB-drive. I followed the instructions here (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx) but I keep getting a "error loading operating system" when rebooting and get to the screen where I can select where I want to boot from.19:05
janisozaurClientAlive, and what is the problem? if you know file names you can use bash "echo number{one,two,three}" expansion syntax19:05
ThinkT510Arvendu: you can only have one apt-get running19:05
ThinkT510Arvendu: do you have the software centre open?19:05
ThreepwoodClientAlive: did you try a scp `find sourceFolder -name "*tar.gz"` user@host:targetFolder approach?19:05
ClientAlivejanisozaur: well the problem is I don't know bash very well19:06
Threepwood(backticks are important here)19:06
Arvenduno19:06
ThinkT510Arvendu: synaptic?19:06
Arvendunow command working but pkg not found :S19:06
ClientAliveThreepwood: that runs the command on the receiver computer not the sender (which is where I would need the result to come from)19:06
W|cKeDis it safe if i'll do a complete removal in my synaptic package manager bout linux-headers that are installed that i didn't know? i got a linux-header 2.6.32-21-generic but i saw some headers installed and related to 2.6.32-21-generic i don't know when and how .... is it safe? :(19:07
ThinkT510Arvendu: what package?19:07
janisozaurClientAlive, do you know filenames on remote?19:07
Arvendunow command working but pkg not found :S19:07
Arvendusudo apt-get install pppoeconf19:07
ThinkT510Arvendu: what version of ubuntu?19:07
ArvenduThink in software center it is showing installed :S19:08
ThreepwoodClientAlive: do you want to execute "scp" on the sender or the receiver side ? (you got ssh, so just login into the receiver if thats a problem)19:08
Threepwooderm sender i mean19:08
Arvenduhold one Think m8 i am working ;)19:08
ClientAlivejanisozaur: is transfer files from local to rempte (ie: scp file1.tar.gz file2.tar.gz... /path/on/remote/  So I'm logged into remote having done a "scp remoteName". The files to transfer on local are mixed wtih other filees in the directory but all *.tar.gz are the ones to transfer over.19:09
ClientAlive*remote*19:10
Arvendusudo pppoeconf when i did this command ethernet is not detect ?19:10
janisozaurClientAlive, for i in `ssh remote "ls -1 /path/to/*.tar.gz"` ; do scp remote:$i local; done19:11
ThinkT510Arvendu: do you have an ethernet cable connected?19:11
ClientAliveok19:11
ClientAlivecool19:11
ClientAlivejanisozaur: now ls will put a \n after every file name. Is that a problem? As bash will interpret that as multiple hitting <enter> won't it?19:13
janisozaurClientAlive, no, not a problem. see this: "for i in `seq 1 10`; do echo $i; done"19:13
ClientAliveok19:14
ClientAlivethanks man  :)19:14
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janisozaurClientAlive, np19:14
janisozaurClientAlive, just out of curiosity, have you tried this: "scp remote:/path/to/*.tar.gz local" ?19:15
Asshole1can i flood19:15
ThinkT510Asshole1: no19:15
ThinkT510!paste | Asshole119:15
Asshole1o19:15
ubottuAsshole1: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:15
ClientAlivejanisozaur: one last thing. Will it be /path/to*.tar.gz or  /path/to/*.tar.gz19:15
ClientAlive??19:15
ClientAlivethe latter right?19:15
BluesKajhey Asshole1 , change your nick pls19:16
janisozaurClientAlive, yes, the latter. bash does not auto-complete directories like this. you could try zsh, though19:16
ClientAliveok19:16
mefistofeleshey, what's the boot parameter to load vesa generic driver? Ubuntu tries loading with radeon driver and that crashes the computer...19:17
ThinkT510mefistofeles: you may need to force it by using a xorg.conf19:18
ThinkT510!xorgconf | mefistofeles19:18
ubottumefistofeles: The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf - ATI/AMD ( fglrx driver ) specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd - NVidia ( nvidia driver )specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia man xorg.conf for file structure and syntax.19:18
janisozaurClientAlive, just checked, "scp remote:/path/to/*.tar.gz local" should work ;)19:18
mefistofelesThinkT510: no, for live usb, no system installed yet19:18
ThinkT510mefistofeles: sorry, no idea19:19
mefistofelesThinkT510: ok, no problem19:19
ClientAlivejanisozaur: are you sure this is going the right direction?  Need to transfer files:  local to remote (not other way)19:20
ClientAlivesomehting like:  for i in `ssh duckduckgoose:"ls -1 /home/shine/Downloads/Torrent*.tar.gz"` ; do scp duckduckgoose:$i  /mnt/media/Video/Movies/Mainstream/; done19:20
ClientAlivebut I think then that only the file name will be plugged in on the sending part of the command (not the entire path) as that is written what I pasted19:21
leo__alguem fala portugues?19:21
ThinkT510ClientAlive: ssh /path/to/local/file remote@ip:/path/to/put/file19:21
alienauthello! what is difference between 32 and 64 bit versions19:21
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ThinkT510alienaut: 3219:22
alienautThinkT510, lol19:22
ThinkT510alienaut: if you have 64bit processor then there is little reason not to use 64bit19:23
shade34321I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 via live USB and whenver I try to start up using the live USB I get an error stating that sda doesn't support DPO or FUA.  When I try and boot up using a live CD it just gets past boot from CD screen and hangs. Both the USB and Cd work since I tested it on another system, actually just installed ubuntu on another system using this USB 30 minutes prior. any suggestions on how ot fix this?19:23
ThreepwoodThinkT510: normally it should be 42, but they didnt come to 74 .. yet19:23
marahinalienaut, for example 64 bit OS cannot into >4GB RAM.19:23
janisozaurClientAlive, oh, if local -> remote, then "scp /local/path/to/*.tar.gz remote"19:23
Gavilan3what's the best IM for MSN + Gmail?19:23
Gavilan3Gtalk19:23
Gavilan3which can also check how many mails you currelty have in your email account19:24
ClientAliveok19:24
alienautoh. why 32 bit version is recommended on download page of ubuntu desktop?19:24
ThinkT510alienaut: in case the person doing the download doesn't know which processor they have19:24
ozyi'm trying to boot ubuntu off a usb stick, and all I get is some goofy icon at the bottom of the screen for a whie. It looks like a 'movie' icon, a dash, and then a person spread eagle with a cricle around it. After a while. it goes to a flashing underscore at the top left of the screen and does nothing else...19:25
marahinalienaut, because 32 bit version works on both 64 supporting CPUs, and thom which don't19:25
ThinkT510alienaut: 32bit will work on both19:25
BluesKajalienaut, , that's only if you're unsure of the architecture19:25
alienautthanks guys!19:25
agarwoodhi, i installed 12.04 and every days I have freeze...19:25
ozythis hardware is a little goofy, and I know I have to add boot options to grub, but I am not even getting that far...19:26
alienaut14.04 is next LTS am i right?19:26
izzydojoanyone have knowledge about dell poweredge and installing server edition ?19:26
SwedeMikealienaut: yes.19:26
Threepwoodwaht about 13.04 ?19:27
ThinkT510alienaut: yes19:27
ThinkT510Threepwood: a regular release19:27
ThreepwoodThinkT510: k19:27
ThinkT510Threepwood: lts's are released every 2 years19:28
izzydojowhat is a good ubuntu form that i can post a question on that will get alot of eyes ?19:30
ThinkT510!forum | izzydojo19:30
ubottuizzydojo: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. Kubuntu Forums are found at http://www.kubuntuforums.net. There is also a channel on freenode IRC #ubuntuforums19:30
izzydojoi need info on weather or not a sever edition is the problem im having19:30
izzydojoi have a power edge server i installed the latest release and it loads fine one time then cant seem to load the second time19:31
nick_hin /etc/apt/sources.list , is "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal main restricted universe multiverse" the same as 4 copies of "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal X", where "X" is "main", "restricted", "universe", and "multiverse"?19:31
shade34321I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 via live USB and whenver I try to start up using the live USB I get an error stating that sda doesn't support DPO or FUA.  When I try and boot up using a live CD it just gets past boot from CD screen and hangs. Both the USB and Cd work since I tested it on another system, actually just installed ubuntu on another system using this USB 30 minutes prior. any suggestions on how to fix this?19:31
jribnick_h: yes19:31
nick_hjrib: thanks, mate19:31
ozyi must be doing something wrong . I get ubuntu 12.10 to boot off a usb, hit f6 to add numa=off, apci=off and pci=lastbus=255, and hit enter, and ubuntu doesnt even try to boot, it just freezes19:32
michal_hi19:32
ozywait.... it's just insanely slow. I waited until I was sure it was froze, typed out that last message, and the screen changed right as I hit send19:32
GeekSquidozy: you might want to remove quiet and add nosplash so you can see what it is doing19:33
ozyah, it finally booted19:33
shadejanybody who knows how to make a program to run as root at startup19:33
ozyonce I get it up, this is a headless box (cyanogenmod 10.1 build box, hopefully) so it wont matter19:33
jribshadej: what program?19:34
ClientAlivejanisozaur: can you please see my pm to you?19:34
GeekSquidozy: android device? interesting19:34
shade34321jrib:  are you talking to me?19:35
jribshade34321: no19:35
shade34321mmk19:35
ozyGeekSquid: the only guides for building cyanogenmod use ubuntu, so I figure I ought to start there.19:35
jribshade34321: you can try the minimal installer and select ubuntu desktop19:36
datsmoidayou guys have any idea about after i upgraded ubuntu to 12.04 mysql is running properly but i cannot log in to phpmyadmin19:36
jribshade34321: also, you should actually verify the contents of the cd (it's an option somewhere when you boot from the cd/usb)19:36
shade34321jrib:  ok, I'll try that first19:37
jribshade34321: I don't actually know anything about the error that you mentioned; I'm just suggesting things to try19:38
GeekSquidozy: you build in adb, (really offtopic) ...  there is room #Cyanogenmod with 430 people in it19:38
shade34321jrib:  lol, the only reason why I haven't verified the contents is because I just used it and they worked but it can't hurt to check it.19:39
Mathiaspossible to have user-based /etc/hosts?19:40
GeekSquidMathias: Normally users would have a public_html folder in their home. and apache user location shows up as www.site.com/~username19:42
MathiasGeekSquid: that's not what i want, i just want aliases for ip's on a user basis19:43
PhysicistI get an old computer and tryed install ubuntu. The system is an i686 - is that the same than i386? I have to download an ISO image i386?19:43
Arvenduhow can i connect windows server ?19:44
ThinkT510Physicist: i386 will work on i68619:44
ThinkT510!samba | Arvendu19:44
ubottuArvendu: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.19:44
Mathiasoh yeah, is it possible to mount a nfs-share on a specific network?19:44
Arvendui do not want to transfar files just want to connect using remote desktop19:44
PhysicistThinkT510, Thank you! I just would like to know that. I will download the image!19:45
ozyGeekSquid: i'm planning on following this guide to get it to compile at least once : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37155072, then I might switch to trying to get it to work with rhel or fedora (my usual distro)19:45
ThinkT510!vnc | Arvendu19:45
PhysicistThinkT510, One more thing: 32 or 64?19:45
sn0wmancan someone solve this http://www.reddit.com/r/tipofmytongue/comments/189egz/tomt_please_help_video_ancient_aliens_religion/19:46
ThinkT510Physicist: if you know its only i686 then you have to use 32bit19:46
DeadWeas1lI need help.  I've been fighting packet loss like crazy on my wifi.  ubuntu 12.04, RTL8187 drivers, on an alfa AWUS036h.19:46
DeadWeas1l73% this ping to google.com19:46
PhysicistThinkT510: Thank you!19:46
Arvenduany other app ?19:46
ThinkT510Arvendu: i've used teamviewer but it isn't open source19:47
Arvenduremote desktop viewer ?19:48
ThinkT510!vnc | Arvendu19:49
ThinkT510hmm, ubottu may be broke19:49
MathiasThinkT510: it got tired and went to bed19:49
* mandoguit starts digging grave19:50
Mathiasi think it's going to ping out soon19:50
ubottuArvendu: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX19:50
GeekSquidubottu responds really slowly19:50
ubottuGeekSquid: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:50
Sendoushiguys... i'm using ubuntu server under vm on a macbook pro and trying to get the right keyboard. portuguese macbook pro keyboard layout. anyone help?19:50
jorgeh19:53
FihuFilhi19:53
Guest5473I have a server that reports "/dev/xvda1 will be checked for errors at next reboot".  I've set "tune2fs -c -1 /dev/xvda1".  Do I need to do anything else to prevent it actually performing a check on next reboot?19:59
Noskcajdoes anyone know what happened to the ultimate edition website?19:59
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gueriLLaPunK How do I make it so when I type sudo <cmd> that I dont have to keep typing my password? I has 12.0420:01
ThinkT510Noskcaj: we don't keep track of unsupported ubuntu offshoots here20:01
kantlivelonganyone here using kernel 3.5 with a Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty? Was wondering if it worked yet..20:02
NoskcajThinkT510, ok :(20:02
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ThinkT510gueriLLaPunK: i would advise against doing that20:02
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ampd_where did my soldering iron go? i've been looking for it for the past hour20:04
kantlivelonggueriLLaPunK: add "USERNAMEHERE   ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL" to /etc/sudoers   but as ThinkT510 said, its not recommended20:05
SteevcaHi,i know this is not the place to ask,and i apologize. But can someone help me to transfer a boot.img via fastboot to my phone. I am not getting any answers on #android-root and i need this fast.20:06
SteevcaI apologize again.20:06
gueriLLaPunKthank you very much, kantlivelong20:06
kantlivelongSteevca: not the channel for it at all :)20:06
GeekSquidgueriLLaPunK: better way sudo -i20:06
kantlivelongindeed sudo -i20:06
gueriLLaPunKah i see20:07
gueriLLaPunKswitches me to root20:07
Steevcakantlivelong yes i know,but i need this fast. And i know that there are some linux developers that can help me.20:07
SteevcaI am asking on a few chanells right now,and not getting help. :/20:07
SteevcaThis sucks.20:07
yeikI recently have had weird issues when I am using ssh keys into my linux box. the first session will deny the private key and ask for a password. all other sessions accept the private key and connect me.20:07
ThinkT510Steevca: doesn't make this channel android support20:07
SteevcaOk,nevermind.20:07
kantlivelongandriod handles its boot differently than regular x86.20:08
TerryI've recently moved from Windows 7 to Ubuntu which I just down loaded and beginning to learn.  I was using PopPeeper for my few Gmail accounts,but I see it is not supported in Ubuntu with out Wine.  Googled it and "Mail Notification" come up.  Can anyone walk me through down loading and installing - Please!20:08
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DeadWeaselWhat is acceptable packet loss for wifi that is one 10 ft away through a ceiling?20:09
DeadWeaseli ahve a great strong signal, but I'm getting packet loss20:09
MathiasTerry: why don't you use thunderbird? :)20:09
kostkonTerry, which version of ubuntu20:09
DeadWeaselstarts small, then grows20:09
DeadWeasel12.0420:09
GeekSquidTerry: ubuntu has built in Gmail notification, you may not be able to use poppeeper but ubuntu has a solution20:09
kunjiDeadWeasel: 0%20:09
kantlivelongTerry: you mean this? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/email-notification-in-ubuntu-popper20:09
DeadWeaselkunji: that's what I thought.20:09
TerryDon't use Thunderbird because most of my accounts have been with Gmail for years20:09
DeadWeaselI just rebooted, which helps at first, but them my wifi becomes unusable.20:10
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: depends on driver..20:10
DeadWeasel12.04 x64, RTL8187 drivers for a Alfa awus036h20:10
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: some wifi drivers are a bit buggy20:10
DeadWeaselmy windows laptop does not have this issue20:10
TerryI'm using the lastest download...12.XX20:10
GeekSquidTerry: thunderbird is a client, just like poppeeper, it accesses multiple email accounts, including gmail and notifies you when email comes in20:11
DeadWeaselkantlivelong: RTL 8187, are those bugging with ALFA awus036h?  Icouldn't find anything googling20:11
DeadWeaselkantlivelong: i did read it can help to install aircrack and use their drivers20:11
kantlivelongi have the same alfa and had issues years ago.. not sure about recent kernels.20:11
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: might be a nightmare to use theirs :)20:12
DeadWeaselprobably. kantlivelong20:12
freshminthi is there any option let the unity-lens-file use the shell command locate for finding any file in my root tree20:12
TerryOK....That answers most of my question for now....I will down load Thunderbird and see what I can do...thanks,20:12
escottyeik, for encrypted home you have to move the keyfile outside of the $HOME20:12
DeadWeaselkantlivelong: sometimes I have Zero loss20:12
DeadWeaselbut other i get 80%20:12
DeadWeaselor more20:13
kantlivelonghmm i cant find anything i about Core3D from creative on 3.5.. other than it was planned20:13
ekajTriyng to apt-get in Ubuntu 12.10, keep getting "W: Failed to fetch http://URL" - something wicked happened resolving 'security.ubuntu.com:http' )-5 - No address associated with hostname)20:13
DeadWeaselkantlivelong: router is wrt54gs running tomato20:13
GeekSquidTerry: let me save you some time, don't download thunderbird, apt-get it.... "sudo apt-get install thunderbird"20:13
ThinkT510Terry: thunderbird should already be default, no need to download it20:13
kunjiDeadWeasel: Hmm, the Hak5 forums might have some info, as I know they like to use alfa's, not sure which models though20:13
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: wow thats old router :)20:13
DeadWeaselkantlivelong:  I thought about that, it's passed a lot of packets, should I just upgrade20:13
DeadWeasel?20:14
TerrySo is apt-get on the desk top?20:14
DeadWeaselit could be hardware, but it doesn't happen on other machines20:14
DeadWeaselkantlivelong: ^20:14
kunjiDeadWeasel:Also have you checked ping from just the router out?20:14
ThinkT510!software | Terry20:14
ubottuTerry: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents20:14
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: if your lazy and have the money to spare just buy a wifi card with more support20:14
kunjiDeadWeasel:I recently had a case where just one machine was getting about 15% packet loss, oddly enough rebooting my modem is what fixed it20:14
DeadWeaselnot sure how on tomato router.  let me look that up.  kantlivelong20:14
yeikescott, it shouldn't be encrypted as I always have screen sessions up, so it isn't the first login, just first session from that device (like my phone, if rebooted and connecting back via ssh)20:14
DeadWeaselkunji: rebooting sets me straight for a while.  although I reboote dthis time and had 22% loss, now Im' at 0% loss.   weird20:15
TerryBook marked that and will give it look...thanks20:15
kunjiDeadWeasel: Right, I know you tried rebooting the comp, but also try the router and the modem20:16
W|cKeDhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1634201/ <=== help pls20:16
DeadWeaseloh, the router, brainfart, thanks.  I will do that when this connection gets bad.  I'm watching my packet loss right now.20:16
DeadWeaselanyone know a good command to measure packet loss?20:17
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: ping20:17
kantlivelonglol20:17
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: ping w/ flood option is good too20:17
DeadWeaselping is what I was doing, but I have to stop and start it repeatedly, I'll loook up flood20:17
DeadWeaselkantlivelong: ^20:18
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: mtr20:18
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: <3 mtr20:18
DeadWeaselso put in mtr 0.0.0.020:18
DeadWeaselor external I p?20:18
DeadWeaselwhoa, that's a sweet tool!  kantlivelong20:19
DeadWeaselthanks!20:19
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: everytime im on a windows pc i cringe when i have to use ping/tracert20:19
DeadWeaselkantlivelong: no doubt.  so glad I'm not doing IT anymore!20:20
Taylr0xGood evening all.20:20
tomv_I think this is a quickie.. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04.  when I search for a file from the unity dash, I can see the file, but I can't figure out how to open the containing folder, or learn where it is located...20:20
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: eh ive moved up from user support and just talk to servers all day.. the servers dont say mean things ;)20:21
ACubed10what's up everyone20:21
DeadWeaselkantlivelong: and they don't give you the stinkeye when you are helping them  :)20:21
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: hehe...20:21
mathias__Hello guys, I got a problem with my microphone under ubuntu 12.0420:22
mathias__It keeps picking up every sound on my computer20:22
DeadWeaselkantlivelong: from the supported hardware page:  Support for encrypted wireless during installation is currently limited to WEP.20:22
mathias__let's say I'm in a skype call and watch a youtube clip at the same time. the people in the conversation will hear EXACTLY what I'm listetning to20:22
XATRIXHi guys, how can i start proprietary driver installation utility from console ?20:22
DeadWeaselkantlivelong: WPA, I recall reading something on that, has issues20:22
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: ah... well if your in a secluded area WEP isnt too bad :P20:23
DeadWeaselI guess I could do wep and do MAC filtering?  kantlivelong20:23
gelphmathias__ put headphones on is the only real answer20:23
GeekSquidXATRIX: gksudo jockey-gtk20:23
kunjitomv_: Hmm, in 12.10 you can right click it and there is an option to "Show in folder" but I think there were changes to the dash from 12.04 to 12.10, so I guess I'm not sure20:23
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: i wouldnt recommend that.. anyone that hacks WEP knows mac filtering is a joke :)20:23
DeadWeaseloh yea, mac spoofing20:24
DeadWeaselballs20:24
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: just grab another wifi card20:24
DeadWeaselbut i don't think WPA is supported in general20:24
tomv_kunji: cool.  does not work in 12.04 -- I was surprised to see no options when I right click.20:24
DeadWeaselhttps://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/hardware-supported.html20:24
kantlivelongDeadWeasel:.. i use WPA2 daily on various card w/o issues20:24
bekksDeadWeasel: Correct. WPA is deprecated too. USe WPA2 at least.20:24
tomv_kunji: glad they fixed that in 12.10.20:24
kantlivelongdunno if its just WPA20:24
kunjimathias__: using speakers right?  I would recommend using headphones for that.20:24
DeadWeaselkantlivelong: Support for encrypted wireless during installation is currently limited to WEP.20:25
DeadWeaselWEP only supported  :(   lame20:25
kantlivelongduring install.. oh heh20:25
gelphWEP can be broken in 56 seconds20:25
joshuIs there a way to make an ubuntu install into a "firmware"? in other words it would be updated remotely and some mechanism in place in case the update goes wrong20:25
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: pretty sure ive used WPA2 on install20:25
DeadWeaselkantlivelong: there are a couple of unsecure networks I can see, so I won't be low hanging fruit.20:26
yeikDeadWeasel, kantlivelong, another option is a second ssid that is free, but give it limited access or one of those payment features with ads. nobody needs to hack wep if you have free wifi.20:26
DeadWeaselkantlivelong: I'm using it right now.  but it's the only thing I can point to for my packet loss...20:26
bekksjoshu: Which has nothing to do with a "firmware" - and you could just restore a backup when something goes wrong.20:26
Taylr0xHow do you stop xchat from joining that debian channel upon startup?20:26
kantlivelongyeik: people arent always hackng wifi for free wifi :P20:26
bekksRemove that channel from your favorites.20:26
DeadWeaselyeik: maybe, i'll think about that.20:27
Taylr0xBrilliant, thank you bekks20:27
joshubekks: but if the ubuntu desktop install is in a remote location it is not as simple as that20:27
bekksjoshu: As long as SSH is still reachable, it is that easy.20:27
GeekSquidkantlivelong: more like free credit card numbers, but I wouldn't know anything about that20:27
yeikkantlivelong, no, it is a big portion. and if you are worried about access to your computers, segragated networks and vpn/ssh tunnels20:27
DeadWeaselkantlivelong: MTR has sent 500 packets, 16 IPs for google.com, AVG is 5% loss20:27
tomv_kunji: I figured it out, just go back t to basic nautilis for 12.04, kinda lame.  Windows 7 is better.  Glad they fixed it in 12.1020:27
kunjitomv_: Yeah, nautilus is pretty nice in my opinion though.20:28
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: any loss when hitting your router?20:28
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Taylr0xbekks, do you know where you find your favourite lists? I cant seem to find it.20:29
DeadWeaselkantlivelong: great q, checking now.  not yet.20:29
tomv_kunji: Much slower, does not seem to have access to the same index that dashboard uses to quickly find the file.20:29
joshubekks ok perhaps i'll give some more detail explaining what i'm looking to do. i'm thinking of creating an ubuntu os thin client which will be read-only e.g. no user information is stored locally. this would be deployed via a livecd which is installed locally on a user's computer.20:29
DeadWeaseli'll keep an eye on it kantlivelong20:29
pasquale!ciao20:29
DeadWeaseluh oh, 12% loss  kantlivelong20:29
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: if no loss to your router than its not the wifi20:29
pasquale!list20:29
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kantlivelongDeadWeasel: then its da wifi20:29
joshumanagement in terms of updating the contents of the local install and any configuration changes would take place remotely from some form of management server20:30
DeadWeaselkantlivelong: since other machines are ok, it's the ubuntu non-support for WPA then?20:30
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: or the card driver20:30
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DeadWeaselkantlivelong: should I try another RTL driver?  like 8169?20:30
yeikDeadWeasel, best way to test, is to turn off WPA for a few minutes and try it out20:31
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: to buy or one you have?20:31
kantlivelongDeadWeasel: yeik yeah that works too for a quick test :P20:31
kunjiDeadWeasel:WPA works for me, I would think it's the driver for that particular card20:31
ACubed10who is ready for the walking dead tonight?20:31
pasquale!ciao20:31
DeadWeaselkunji: ,kantlivelong , yeik --  I will try that now.  BRB20:31
DeadWeaselthanks!20:31
kunjiACubed10: isn't that for ubuntu-offtopic :P20:32
Taylr0xACubed10, does that restart tonight?20:32
Kazzzbaranyone know how to get flash 11.3 to work in chromium or firefox?20:32
pasquale!list20:32
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joshubekks did my explanation make any sense20:32
ACubed10Taylr0x yes20:32
pasquale!ciao20:33
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pasquale!mario20:34
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pasquale!ciao20:36
rusfus_hi!!20:36
rusfus_there 'someone willing to help me with a network problem between two pc? I have basically installed the package "openssh-server" typing "sftp :/ / xxxx@192.168.xxx.xxx" from a window of nautilus opens the connection, asks for my psw 2 or 3 times and then tells me it can not open the connection from the server. how can I fix it? pls help me!20:36
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DJonespasquale: This channel is about Ubuntu support, piracy isn't appropriate on the network20:37
redtape-renegadeJust as I was about to buy an Ubuntu TV RL70 .. I got this message ... https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/Attachments%20Email%20Xchat/Ebay%20Importantion%20Alert%20Feb%27%202013png.png20:37
pasquale!ciao20:38
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escottrusfus_, sftp :/ / xxx what is with all the spaces?20:38
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h-techanyone using xchat? when i minimize it to tray i cannot get it to open the previous window, it instead open a new instance of xchat20:39
pasquale!help20:39
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:39
GeekSquidrusfus_:  try from the nautilus file menu 'connect to server'20:39
KazzzbarHow do i install flash plugin 11.3, adobe says 11.2 is the last version?20:40
imacakeHii,20:40
Taylr0xh-tech, how are you minimising it? Clicking the tray icon once to hide and once again to reshow?20:40
imacakeAny IRC channels for help with GNU make?20:40
h-techTaylor, no i press x and then it say "you want to minmize to tray" or "exit xchat"20:40
TaylorOkay20:40
h-techSry meant to send that to  Taylr0x20:41
Taylr0xh-tech, clicked on minimise to tray and then clicked on the tray icon once and it seems to be opening fine for me with no new session.20:41
OerHeksKazzzbar,  current is  11.2 r202 and 11.3 does not exist.20:42
h-techTaylr0x, are you using unity?20:42
Kazzzbar@oerHeks..website im trying to access says i need to install flash 11.3..is there a way around this? im running 11.220:43
Taylr0xh-tech, No, sorry. xfce20:43
bekksKazzzbar: No.20:43
OerHeksKazzzbar, what website?20:44
rusfus_GeekSquid he procedure that is "terminal ---> nautilus ----> CTRL + L ----> sftp :/ / xxxx@192.168.xxx.xxx20:44
h-techTaylr0x, Hm, have to check with someone using Unity then, thanks for your time20:44
Kazzzbar@bekks, break my heart....@oerheks...www.livemocha.com, learning language site20:44
ozyi'm trying to boot ubuntu 12.10 with an older nvidia card -- and it keeps freezing on boot whne it tries to load the gui -- and it spamms messages about the nouvue driver timing out -- how do I blacklist novuea and install the proprietary driver from the commandline?20:45
bekksrusfus_: Why do you have all that whitespaces there?20:46
rusfus_escott I have to try and if I do it with?20:46
Sendoushiguys... how can i get inside the cd through the console?20:46
compdocSendoushi, you mean access the files on the cd?20:47
Sendoushiyes20:47
compdochave to mount it20:47
OerHeksKazzzbar, i checked for you, http://classroom.livemocha.com/sample-classes/ works all great with current 11.220:47
Sendoushii think it is mounted by the parallels20:47
Sendoushiwhich is the vm i'm using20:47
alamiany one can tell one why i can't find irssi silc client package20:47
rusfus_bekks sorry spaces and an error of copy and paste20:48
compdocwell, if it is mounted, you need to find where20:48
Sendoushihow can i do that?20:48
rusfus_escott sorry spaces and an error of copy and paste20:48
Sendoushils and dir don't give me nothing20:48
Sendoushiit's like... it is empty20:48
compdocis the cd named?20:48
Sendoushihome, root... empty20:48
GeekSquidrusfus_: seems to work for me connecting to a couple of servers20:48
Sendoushifrom what i know is an iso named prl-tools-lin.iso20:49
Sendoushino more info :s20:49
KazzzbarOerHeks, i will reinstall flash, maybe something isnt right or disabled. Thanks for your help20:49
rusfus_GeekSquid In fact, it seems that it works, asks the psw 2 or 3 times and then says that should not be20:50
dniMretsaMI'm currently learning a little bit of OpenGL with C++, but when I try to compile (using the -lGL flag) I get this: "undefined reference to `_glapi_tls_Dispatch'"  I searched Google and didn't find any solutions, so what should I do20:50
GeekSquidrusfus_: seems like you have  the wrong password, or20:50
GeekSquidrusfus_: or idk20:51
rusfus_GeekSquid idk???20:51
compdocSendoushi, try:     mount|grep ^'/dev'20:51
GeekSquidrusfus_: txt spk .... idk = I don't know20:51
rusfus_GeekSquid the psw is correct20:52
Sendoushiawkward code compdoc20:52
Sendoushijust done cd dev20:52
Sendoushidone ls and i see there the cdrom20:52
Sendoushibut cant get inside20:52
rusfus_GeekSquid ok!20:52
baeglehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1065400 This bug report states that a fix has been released for 12.10, but I am still suffering from the bug. Anyone know what's up with this bluetooth issue?20:53
ubottuUbuntu bug 1065400 in linux (Ubuntu Raring) "Support for loading Broadcom bluetooth firmware" [Medium,In progress]20:53
gueriLLaPunKwhat is the name of the...umm... folder viewer in ubuntu 12.04? i use to type thunar and it would open the gui to view files and folders. well i need to do it with the sudo command, but i dunno what comes with gnome. does that make sense?20:53
baegleAlso, I can't signup for a launchpad account and contribute my comments there, launchpad doesn't seem to be working for signups20:53
gueriLLaPunKi used thunar when i had 9.10 installed with xde, but im using gnome now20:53
trismgueriLLaPunK: nautilus for gnome, though use gksudo not sudo20:53
gueriLLaPunKty20:53
GeekSquidrusfus_: and you have verified this by terminal: ssh x.x.x.x -luser -ppassword20:54
gueriLLaPunKi need to add a repo to yum, but what do i end the extension with? .conf?20:54
pasquale|link20:54
Sendoushicompdoc: i dunno how i did it but... it's working now20:55
pasquale!link20:55
escottGeekSquid, rusfus_ -p is the port. you CANNOT pass the password on ARGV. and doing so it a terrible ide20:55
escotta20:55
DJonespasquale: Stop that, this is not a channel for piracy20:55
compdocSendoushi, you are simply amazing20:55
Sendoushilol20:55
Sendoushijust going around folders and such20:55
Sendoushiand arrived at a point where i had the dev/cdrom20:55
trueneuPassing password through ARGV? Who would do that?20:55
Sendoushiand mnt/cdrom20:55
GeekSquidgueriLLaPunK:  ubuntu doesn't use yum ... use apt it works20:55
ozytrueneu: mysql?20:55
Sendoushiafter that... just went inside cdrom from mnt20:55
rusfus_escott then??20:55
GeekSquidrusfus_: subtract the -ppassword and it will prompt for password20:56
rusfus_escottwhat should i do??20:56
trueneuHm, yeah, right, ozy.20:56
escottrusfus_, clearly the password is deemed not to be correct. you can monitor the actual handshake and communication with the remote server by doing "ssh -vvv user@host" but (the more v's the more verbose) but it sure sounds like you dont have the right password20:56
gueriLLaPunKim trying to install this:20:56
rusfus_GeekSquid ??20:56
gueriLLaPunKhttp://www.webmin.com/deb.html20:56
trueneuDamn Oracle!20:57
GeekSquidrusfus_: test ssh .... ssh 192.198.x.x -uuser20:57
escottrusfus_, just try "ssh -v user@host" and it will prompt you for the password20:57
ozytrueneu: haha -- that's a legacy stupid decision, though, predating oracle20:57
gueriLLaPunKi get to the part where i added the repos and when i do apt-get update, i get " Failed to fetch" on the repos i just added20:58
rusfus_GeekSquid escott I try20:58
GeekSquidgueriLLaPunK: webmin is depricated in ubuntu, what are you trying to do?20:58
SonikkuAmericagueriLLaPunK: Do you require outside (e.g. web) authentication?20:58
trueneuozy, I know... Just play along a bit please :)20:58
gueriLLaPunKoh it is? well i had it installed when i had 9.10. i guess i was using ubuntu server then20:58
onitaL!virtualbox20:59
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox20:59
gueriLLaPunKbut im on 12.04, so i thought it would be nice to have?20:59
ozyso, um.. I just installed ubuntu -- what's the 'ubuntu' name for sshd? I'm trying to start it so I can connect from another machine, and neither service ssh start, nor service sshd start works..20:59
gueriLLaPunKopenssh server20:59
unheedingozy: you have to install openssh-server20:59
seferisHi! I've just installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. So far so good. But I dont know why my second screen has the same Launcher bar as my first screen. Can this be removed?20:59
ozyseriously, unheeding? this *IS* linux... ought to be installed by default...21:00
kunji seferis: yes, it can21:00
ozythanks, though21:00
seferiskunji: can you please explain a little on how to achieve that?21:00
LanaMayCan someone please explain the diff between :::22, 127.0.0.1:22, and 0.0.0.0:22 is?21:00
DeadWeaselOk, I rebooted the modem and router, then I changed the attenae back to the small one on my ALFA wirless card, now when I try to reconnect to my network the "CONNECT" button is red and won't allow me to click it!  kantlivelong kunji21:01
DeadWeaselI'm on neighbors unsecured21:01
GeekSquidseferis: unity doesn't look right on 2 screens ... install gnome-desktop-environment and you will have a better desktop... when you log in click session and click gnome classic21:01
kunjiseferis: Click on the gear in the upper right, go to system settings, then to Displays, I believe there should be an option in there for it21:01
escottLanaMay, 127.0.0.1:22 is port 22 on localhost21:01
SonikkuAmericaGeekSquid, do you mean gnome-panel?21:01
kunjiseferis: The Launcher placement one21:01
DeadWeaselWhy would the connect button be not clickable?21:01
GeekSquidSonikkuAmerica: no, I am talking about replacing unity (the default desktop) with gnome (bigger better desktop)21:02
trueneuLanaMay, second refers to loopback interface, and third refers to all available usually. Not so sure about the first one, looks like some form of IPv6.21:02
bekksLanaMay: :::22 is IPv6 localhost Port 22, 127.0.0.1:22 is IPv4 localhost port 22, 0.0.0.0:22 is every IPv4 address configured in a system port 22.21:02
escottLanaMay, ::22 is an ip6 address for something that is all zeros and 22 at the end21:02
SonikkuAmericaGeekSquid, for what version?21:02
escottLanaMay, i dont know what :::22 would be21:02
Atumalooc21:03
seferiskunji: Aha! That helps a lot! Thank you!21:03
trueneuAh, thanks bekks, that's useful about :::22.21:03
GeekSquidSonikkuAmerica: All versions of ubuntu desktop have the option of gnome21:03
kunjiDeadWeasel: Hmm, I really don't know.  Is this connect button in the dropdown menu for connections?21:03
TunnelpojkenHi! Anyone here got any idea of how to remove unity and enable the gnome desktop?21:03
alamiZero_Chaos: i mean wpa accept only letter and number, and i mean if it's possible to make a dictionary with all possibility of word and letter less or equal to 6421:03
DJones!nounity | Tunnelpojken21:03
ubottuTunnelpojken: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic21:03
rusfus_escott GeekSquid practically with "ssh-v sometimes-antisocial@192.168.1.64" in terminal it asks me to insert the psw which then tells me it wrong and gives me access denied21:04
pasquale!link21:04
SonikkuAmericaGeekSquid, are you talking the transitional package then?21:04
LanaMayescott: so if i have apache running on 22 on my local host, I have pv4 and pv6 traffic through it? or are each of these different ports21:04
escottrusfus_, the password is probably wrong21:04
GeekSquidTunnelpojken: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment .... then login and when you login click on session.. 2 options gnome classic(which is gnome2) or gnome321:05
trueneuMaybe the password is... wrong?21:05
GeekSquidSonikkuAmerica: the transitional package installs the dependencies21:05
escottLanaMay, its the same port, just coming over a different ip version21:05
kunjiLanaMay: I think you do, unless you disabled IPv621:05
TunnelpojkenGeekSquad! Thanks! :)21:05
rusfus_escott how do I solve the problem? I is a doubt: but wants psw PC or router?21:06
SonikkuAmericaGeekSquid: There's a better way to do it in 12.10, if that's what we're dealing with.21:06
TunnelpojkenGonna check when the virtual machine get's on, but I believe I got 12.10 atm21:07
LanaMayescott: and  kunji: thanks so much!21:07
froncthe remastrer sys wich programe look like it on windows21:08
pasquale!ciao21:08
escottbekks, shouldn't it be ::1:2221:08
pasquale!link21:08
bekksescott: Oh, thats correct.21:09
escottbekks, thats still ambiguous... how does one distinguish the port from the ip21:09
kunjiHmm, where does gnome-network-manager keep it's settings (accessible via terminal)?  Because it doesn't write them to where you would use if not using the network manager (/etc/network/interfaces).21:09
escottbekks, ::22 would be 0000:0000:0000:0022 right. ::1:22 could be 0000:0000:0001:002221:09
rusfus_ escott psw PC and exact, and the only thing that I have set up access automatically when the pc, but to install or uninstall programs that use the pwd and the usual21:10
gueriLLaPunKI just want to say thanks to everyone in this room for helping me out the past week. I've learned a lot and I appreciate it.21:10
Gavilan2Any idea why my mouse would work really strange inside ubuntu?21:10
escottLanaMay, bekks ports in ip6 need to be outside a [] so it should be [::1]:2221:12
SonikkuAmericaGavilan2, what kind of mouse is it>21:12
SonikkuAmerica?21:12
thunkeehi, is it possible that gnome shell activities doesnt minimize the view of the secondary monitor?21:13
rusfus_escott How do I change the psw?21:14
Sendoushihow can i list the packages?21:14
escottrusfus_, passwd21:14
Arvenduhello guys why python is taking too much ram :S21:14
kunjiArvendu: How much is it taking?21:15
yeikArvendu, python is a language, is it an IDE that is taking up too much ram, or an application written in python you are running?21:15
Arvendusomtimes 100 MB and somtimes 200-30021:16
escottLanaMay, also why do you have apache running on your ssh port?21:16
kunjiyeik: I'm guessing he means IDLE, but I'm not sure21:16
LanaMayescott: i don't I was using that as an example for conceptual understanding21:16
SonikkuAmericaNo, he means IDE21:16
SonikkuAmerica!ide21:16
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator21:16
escottLanaMay, ok. well ::22 is not port 22 on localhost. [::1]:22 is21:17
ozyafter installing from the liveCD, grub doesnt have the correct boot arguments -- it dropped the arguments I added when booting the live CD, and it has the wrong root= option -- where/how do I fix that? /etc/grub2.cfg is not here...21:17
kunjiSonikkuAmerica: Yeah, the python IDE, IDLE  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDLE_%28Python%2921:17
yeikSonikkuAmerica, IDLE is a python IDE21:17
toperharriercan anyone tell me what does this xchat-indicator plugin do exactly? Im nt getting any kind of alert or new notification icon besides the one that opens a new xchat app21:17
escottozy, /etc/default/grub. then update-grub21:18
rusfus_escott one thing that I was doing back mentr the installation of ssh. I use xubuntu and nautilus was not installed. and normal? I ask because I touched and install it from the terminal21:18
ozyescott: ty21:18
SonikkuAmericakunji, yeik: OK21:18
escottrusfus_, xubuntu would not include nautilus. that would be normal for xubuntu21:18
SonikkuAmericarusfus_: Xubuntu uses Thunar. Studio, however, uses Nautilus.21:19
onitaLHi, how do I tell Ubuntu to build the virtualbox guest modules? only thru command line?. I do have dkms installed, but the kernel headers wasn't installed in the last upgrade21:19
bekksonitaL: Then you have to use the commandline, yes.21:19
ozyescott: I dont see how to change the root= option....21:19
yeikArvendu, what application is this exactly?21:19
Arvenduyeik ?21:19
escottozy, its in your default grub line. root=UUID=21:19
onitaLbekks, why only the image was upgraded and not the headers?21:19
LanaMayescott: netstat -lnptu prints out with the same result.... i have sshd running a listener on all available(0.0.0.0:22) and the pv6-like one(:::22)21:20
rusfus_SonikkuAmerica escott can 'be that's why I do not work and I recognize the psw?21:20
yeikArvendu, are you using an application or trying to write in python? or you just opened task manager and see a python at 200 mb ram?21:20
Arvenduyes just task manager and see python21:20
LanaMayescott: sry i mean same result in zshell and bash shell, not that it would be diff21:20
bekksonitaL: Because the headers werent installed - so they couldnt be upgraded.21:20
escottozy, looks like you have to disable that first if you dont want to use UUID. #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID then GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT21:20
ozyescott: I see how to disable the UUID line,21:21
ozyah, ok21:21
yeikArvendu, ok. What applications do you use on your computer?21:21
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escottrusfus_, no21:21
onitaLbekks, they were for the kernel before. However, i just noticed linux-headers-generic isn't21:21
escottLanaMay, ::::22 just seems wrong. i would not interpret that as a port. i would interpret that as 0:0:0:22. netstat probably needs a patch to get ipv6 printout correct21:22
bekksonitaL: And that package couldnt be upgraded because it wasnt installed.21:22
toperharriertheres any way to get upbar notifications on new xchat pms or calls in chat (i mean typing my username)?21:22
rusfus_escott I give up for now thank you.21:22
rusfus_Hello and good evening21:22
Arvenducan anyone tell me how to install hexchat?21:23
SonikkuAmericaThere's no apt-get package for it?21:23
yeikescott, i don't see anything wrong with that for ipv6 ports. although it is a little odd.21:23
AaronMTsudo apt-get install hexchat21:23
escottLanaMay, basically that :::22 is very easy to misparse. :: in an ipv6 means fill out to 128 bit with nibbles of 000021:23
LanaMayescott: okay, i have a new window manager, that is prob y it looks different21:23
onitaLSonikkuAmerica, hexchat or xchat?21:24
unheedinghexchat!?  are you crazy21:24
unheedingirssi is the only irc client21:24
LanaMayoo21:24
AaronMTwrong21:24
bekksunheeding: Thats not helpful.21:24
SonikkuAmericaI was talking Hexchat, but I use (and recommend) Xchat.21:24
ArvenduReading package lists... Done21:24
ArvenduBuilding dependency tree21:24
ArvenduReading state information... Done21:24
ArvenduE: Unable to locate package hexchat21:24
escottLanaMay, hopefully people will standardize on [ipv6:addr:ess]:port21:24
* yeik uses irssi at times. its a pain21:25
SonikkuAmerica!flood | Arvendu21:25
ubottuArvendu: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:25
onitaLohh, excelent. Thanks for showing me hexchat :321:25
LanaMayescott: standards are good, but 128 bit address is nonsense right?21:25
LanaMayescott: so it would not do anything if it was misparsed?21:26
escottLanaMay, but :::22 is meant to be the same as [::]:22 and that is the same as [0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000]:22 (if i got enough nibbles)21:26
MoPacHello - has anybody here successfully dual-booted with Windows able to read/write to an Ubuntu ext4 filesystem?21:26
unheedingArvendu: it's not in te repos, looks like you need to add a PPA.  http://handytutorial.com/install-hexchat-in-ubuntu-13-04-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/21:26
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yeikMoPac, I don't think there are currently any drivers to read/write ext421:26
onitaLhttps://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/hexchat-stable21:26
unheedingArvendu: I don't know why you'd use hexchat though.  Xchat is free on Linux21:27
escottLanaMay, ipv6 is 128 bit its ipv4 ^ 4th power21:27
yeikthere are some beta ext3 drivers but it isn't suggested. if you need to have files seen between both filesystems, fat32 is suggested.21:27
DeadWeaselkunji: The connect button is when I select my wifi network and it asks for the password.  I put it in and the connect button is red and unusable.21:27
onitaLInteresting than the dictionaries is bigger than the execuatlbe XD21:27
toperharriertheres any way in ubuntu 12.10 to get pm notifications in the upper bar?21:27
MoPacyeik: My problem is that I have some giant GIS files, so I really need to use ext4 or NTFS, and for speed reasons I'm trying as much as possible to avoid having to have Linux write to a mounted NTFS rather than a native ext421:28
Arvenduk plan change stick with xchat:P21:28
LanaMayescott: oh, a tcpdump will tel me if it is being mis[parsed right?21:28
unheedingi run irssi on my server and use screen and ssh to keep connected to IRC even if my laptop is turned off :321:28
rzecafter I set my timezone with : dpkg-reconfigure tzdata : to UTC it automatically changes back to EST.  Is there some else I need to do to change the timezone and keep it that way?21:29
MoPacI guess then the next question is: is there any better native way now to resize LUKS system partitions, or do I have to in terminal manually resize the filesystem, the dm-crypt, the volume, etc, etc,?21:29
unheedingrzec: have you tried changing your time zone?21:29
escottLanaMay, yeik is probably correct that :::22 will be properly parsed as a ip+port by a standards compliant parser... all i can say is that my brain is certainly not standards compliant21:29
arvenduyo guys i want to connect my windows server how can i connect that ?21:29
bekksarvendu: How dod you want to connect?21:29
unheedingarvendu: ssh probably, I dunno.21:29
datsmoidait's weird how my VPS server the CPU is hardly used but all my programs require enormous RAM21:30
bekksarvendu: RDP: use rdesktop on port 338921:30
onitaLwindows server has ssh?21:30
bekksonitaL: No, not by default.21:30
rzecunheeding, yes, with dpkg-reconfigure tzdata but it just changes backwithin 10 - 30 seconds21:30
datsmoidalike right now i have a 'half core' or whatever CPU but i have 4GB RAM21:30
arvendu rdesktop ?21:30
datsmoidaand i need more RAM, meanwhile CPU is at like 12-20%21:30
LanaMayescott: k, thanks again!21:30
bekksarvendu: Yes.21:30
unheedingrzec: try going into System Settings -> Time and Date21:30
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bekks!info rdesktop > arvendu21:31
yeikMoPac, there just isn't very good support for ext4 from windows. you can try it with something like ext2fsd. You can write to NTFS from linux though, so i would say you should go with that for best support and least amount of data corruption21:31
bekks!info rdesktop21:31
ubotturdesktop (source: rdesktop): RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server and Windows Servers. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 150 kB, installed size 403 kB21:31
rzecunheeding: I am working with a server21:31
arvenduk trying bekks21:31
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SonikkuAmerica!studio | Tunnelpojken21:31
ubottuTunnelpojken: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org21:31
Beast1hi21:32
arvenduwww.rdesktop.org/ right bekks21:32
MoPacyeik: Understood. My other thought, though, is to try to give as much space to Ubuntu as I can right now, then give some back to Win/ntfs later if needed.  Wondering if resizing my LUKS partition would be a huge pain, though?21:32
bekksarvendu: sudo apt-get install rdesktop21:32
escottMoPac, yes21:32
Tunnelpojken!command21:32
MoPacescott: Is it just annoying (i.e., you have to resize filesystem, crypt, volume, etc) or is it also dangerous?21:33
jatakHowdy. Is this the right channel for help?21:33
ozyhow do I fix visudo to use vi? I set EDITOR to /usr/bin/vim and it still looks like it is broken and using nano21:33
unheedingjatak: yes21:33
escottMoPac, dangerous in that if you mess it up its all gone. yes21:33
yeikMoPac, depending on your partitions, it can be a major pain to resize again. I personally have partitions for several different folders, and swap. vs windows that just has 1 partition (windows 7 now includes a 100 mb partition at the beginning for proprietary things)21:33
jatakAlright, I've got a bit of an annoying problem.21:33
Beast1I just opened a file browser with gksudo and sent some root owned files to the trash, only now I see that root does not have a Trash at least I can't find it. So where might these files have gone?21:33
onitaLheh21:34
jatakIn my Unity launcher there are two app icons for a lot of my applications.21:34
jatakLike, two copies of the same application launcher.21:34
escottBeast1, you could check /root/.Trash, but they are probably gone21:34
arvenduyo rdesktop is already installed now ?21:34
MoPacescott: yeik: Is the resizing procedure at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4530641 the kind of thing that's very safe if you follow the steps, or risks messing it up even if you type the right things?21:34
jatakSo I'm guessing that there's a separate folder somewhere full of binaries or symlinks for my apps.21:34
jatakBut I don't know how to find it.21:35
jatakHow do I find where an app launcher in Unity is linking to?21:35
bekksjatak: There is no such folder :)21:35
arvendubeeks rdesktop installed now ?21:35
Beast1arvendu: There's no .Trash under root on my system21:35
escottMoPac, if you are resizing without LUKS you have lots of tools that can help and you can often recover if you mess up by just setting up the tables to a conservative setting. once you add LUKS...21:35
bekksarvendu: I dont know wether you installed it or not.21:35
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jatakbekks: I meant I might have a directory full of symlinks that I've accidentally created or something.21:36
mgodzillai'm havin' problems w/ samba b/n a ubuntu 12.04 client and mac osx 10.8.2 client.21:36
bekksjatak: No, you dont :)21:36
MoPacI guess I could just decrpyt in place, resize, and re-encrypt?21:36
mgodzillafrom the mac side - error indicates smb version unsupported.21:36
ozyhow do you change the editor used by visudo? it's not honoring the EDITOR environmental variable21:36
jatakbekks: Do you know what the problem might be then?21:36
trismjatak: gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites; that's where they are stored, find the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications21:36
mgodzillawhat's the preferred method these days - sharin' w/ a mac ?21:36
MoPacActually, ignore my above, that's probably a bad idea with my SSD (to decrypt in place)21:36
bekksjatak: I dont see any problem until now - so whats the actual problem you are experiencing?21:36
jataktrism: Thanks21:37
escottozy, you have to change it for root in /root/.bashrc21:37
jatakbekks: See here for more info on my problem if you want: http://askubuntu.com/questions/253351/why-are-there-multiple-copies-of-the-same-application-in-the-unity-launcher21:37
neldogzAnyone have experience setting up OpenVPN?21:37
Beast1escott: not under usr/local/share either21:37
Beast1escott: : There's no .Trash under root on my system21:38
ozyescott: I did21:38
yeikMoPac, shrinking partitions with encrypted data is complex, as well as expanding it. I am not very familiar with the LUKS encryption but that is usually entire partition/drive and I would suggest if you are going to do anything with resizing, backup all your data.21:38
MoPacFallback 3: is there a very user-friendly way to back up all of my Ubuntu OS settings, defaults, filemanager packages, etc so as to easily restore back (I'll have crashplan for actual files)?  I don't know how an image would work if there is a different-size new partition21:38
bekksarvendu: Please do not contact me outside this channel.21:38
escottBeast1, sudo takes the safeties off. if you shoot yourself in the foot after that...21:38
Beast1escott: I guess they're gone for good, which iis not a bad thing.21:38
arvenduhow can i make full screen in rdesktop ?21:38
bekksarvendu: By starting rdesktop with the option to fullscreen.21:39
escottMoPac, i would not run LUKS on an SSD. thats going to burn the drive out faster21:39
yeikMoPac, really that guide looks decent, but there can always be unseen issues. if you are able to clone a drive, or create sufficient backups, you can try it if your restores give minimal downtime for you, it isn't a big deal. if it is critical and you can't make good backups. i would suggest against trying it.21:39
escottMoPac, and performance is going to suffer.21:39
arvendukk21:39
Beast1escott: Agreed. I just wanted to make sure the files were somewhere taking up space needlessly.21:39
Beast1escott: weren't21:39
MoPacescott: Not sure what other high-performance full-disk encryption alternative I have, though21:40
yeikescott, I must hvae missed where he said ssd.21:40
escottBeast1, if you dont see it in the gksudo nautilus trash portion its presumably gone, but i always sudo rm for that reason21:40
MoPacI have been institutionally required to use FDE and agree with the rule...21:40
yeikMoPac, why do you need full-disk encryption?21:40
MoPacyeik: Short answer is institutional requirement.21:41
rzecis there something on ubuntu server that automatically updates the timezone, seems like it keps getting reset every minute of the on the 20th second?21:41
escottMoPac, if the policy is you have to do it then you have to do it21:41
dmkuescot: Why? There is way to turm on TRIM for LUKS, isn't it?21:41
MoPacSlightly longer answer is: potentially very sensitive data21:41
Beast1escott: will do it line command next time21:41
RichturdI've got a faulty version of Ubuntu21:41
escottdmku, that would seem a bad idea. if you allow the fact that some block is blank to flow down through encryption layer that leaks information21:41
yeikMoPac, in linux though, the sensitive files are all in profiles. so unless you are worried about people seeing what programs are installed on the computer, shouldn't be an issue.21:41
Richturdanyone know how to fix my ubuntu21:42
questoHi21:42
bekksRichturd: Which "faults" do you experience?21:42
escottdmku, imagine if you wanted to have a deniable hidden encrypted partititon that was unlocked with a different key. well you can't use trim on that disk anymore21:42
questoMicrohphone trouble, all sound in the background get's picked up by the microphone21:42
MoPacyeik: Yeah, but needing a new SSD is a couple years is actually a lot less frustrating than trying to justify to a bureaucracy that breaking this FDE culture isn't a problem21:42
escottdmku, because i can tell that you are refusing to trim some blocks which amount to X-gigs21:42
yeikMoPac, I understand the requirement. I work with HIPPA. SSD drives are very horrible with read/write cycles as well. I have seen them die within a couple months.21:43
MoPacI've actually been using TrueCrypt with Win7 on this SSD, with it nearly full, for a couple of years with really great results21:43
yeikMoPac, years would be lucky on a ssd. especially with big files. I am gathering that you are installing linux and windows on this ssd?21:43
RichturdCAN I GET SOME HELP ABOUT MY UBUNTU21:43
dmkuescott, i have to read more about. Thanks.21:44
escott!details | Richturd21:44
ubottuRichturd: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:44
questoam I the only one who experienced a performance dipp from 12.04 to 12.10?21:44
yeikMoPac, you must be lucky. i bought a ssd in November, no encryption. died last month.21:44
trueneuWe use SSDs as hosts for some heavy loaded databases. No faults, half a year. Maybe we'll experience some in future though.21:44
amiuRichturd,  !ask21:44
amiubah21:44
questo!ask microphone trouble21:44
ubottuquesto: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:44
MoPacyeik: Indeed. I accept that I might need to replace the drive on short notice: that's okay. What's more important to me is not losing tons of time re-configuring everything when I do have to replace it, or resize the partitions, or whatnot21:44
MoPacyeik: My files are securely and redundantly backed up -- the annoying would come with needing to reconfigure all my OS settings and everything21:45
yeikMoPac, so it is going to be backed up then. you are just worried about configurations and partitions?21:45
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escottMoPac, the problem is that encryption is by necessity in opposition to quickly resizing the disk21:45
questoI have a problem with my microphone, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS atm. The problem I'm having is that my microphone picks up all the background sound from the computer21:45
escottMoPac, so you better guess correctly about how much you need for linux/windows because its going to be painful if you have to change it later21:45
MoPacyeik: Right, so if I accept that I might need to wipe my Linux partitions and/or replace the whole disk, and I've got all my actual files backed up perfectly well, then is there an easy tool to back up my OS configuration?21:46
yeikMoPac, so if you want to have something to easily give to someone. the best option would be to keep something preconfigured without it encrypted. when its changed, change partitions, then encrypt and copy data.21:46
Sendoushiguys... how can i change display resolution? talking about ubuntu server21:46
questoFor example, if i'm in a skype/teamspeak call and watching a youtube clip at the same time, my microphone then picks upp all the sound from youtube21:46
questoor whatever media is playing21:46
escottMoPac, alternately go conservative initially and leave some of the disk unused (this is better for the SSD anyways) you can add an additional encrypted volume to whatever OS needs it later21:46
questoand sends it to the microphone21:46
RichturdI am not able to use my mouse pad at all or my keyboards keys are glitchy21:47
questoAlmost like an echo21:47
yeikMoPac, linux doesn't really need much backup. if you keep a list of software, all the settings per user are stored in the user folder. back that up and restore it and nobody will know any difference.21:47
RichturdI think Ill need a new version of Ubuntu or something21:47
DeadWeaselkunji: kantlivelong, Looks like RTL8187L driver is preferable over RTL8187.  You can get it off the Realtek site.21:47
DeadWeaseldown to 2% packet loss21:47
DeadWeaselcan connect to my wifi21:47
questoCan anyone shed some light on my microphone problem please?21:47
escott!clone | MoPac21:47
ubottuMoPac: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this may cause problems with multiarch before 12.10) - See also !automate21:47
jataktrism:  Hey, that command you gave me just displays the apps pinned to the Unity sidebar21:47
escott!info etc-keeper | MoPac21:48
ubottuMoPac: Package etc-keeper does not exist in quantal21:48
escott!info etckeeper | MoPac21:48
ubottuMoPac: etckeeper (source: etckeeper): store /etc in git, mercurial, bzr or darcs. In component main, is optional. Version 0.61ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 28 kB, installed size 223 kB21:48
MoPacyeik: escott: So there's no equivalent of, say, a Windows system restore point.  But if I tell Crashplan to back up all my OS folders in addition to my user files (with Win you just ignore the OS files), I can easily restore the OS back?21:48
jataktrism:  I meant there are multiple applications launchers in the Unity launcher thing21:48
escottMoPac, snapshots in btrfs21:48
jataktrism:  The "start menu"21:48
kunjiDeadWeasel: Hmm, 2% still isn't good, but at least it's working, and it's much better than what it was.21:48
Richturd!ask21:48
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:48
kunjiDeadWeasel:Thanks for letting us know what happened with that21:48
DeadWeaselit's holding around 3.3.  kunji21:48
jataktrism:  The dash is what I meant21:48
DeadWeaselI'll keep on it.  It was the ALFA awus036h USB wifi card21:49
RichturdI AM UNABLE TO USE ALL THE KEYS ON MY KEYBOARDS OR MY MOUSE VERY WELL21:49
questoMy microphone picks up all the sound on my computer and sends it through the microphone,21:49
RichturdSINCE I GOT UBUNTU21:49
escottMoPac, putting /home on a different partition. the think about open-source is that since the software is free reinstalling isnt such a big deal (you dont have to hunt for disks and license keys)21:49
jatakRichturd:  How about you turn off caps lock before asking for help.21:49
yeikMoPac, best thing to do is test it. as long as it does file permissions it shouldn't be an issue. not the best route but easy to do.21:50
Richturdthen someone answer jatak21:50
escottRichturd, PLEASE DONT YELL. also what does that mean cant use them well?21:50
kunji!details | Richturd21:50
ubottuRichturd: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:50
MoPacescott: It's not so much the package installs that are such a headache, but all the settings tweaks: it can take me a whole afternoon or a day to get Cinnamon the way I want it, for example21:50
escottMoPac, backup $HOME21:50
DaemonicApathyWhat would be the best way to fix issues resulting from the deletion of /tmp and /var/tmp ?21:50
jatakRichturd:  If nobody answers, then either you didn't ask the question properly, or nobody here knows the answer21:50
yeikMoPac, those are stored in the user folder or /home21:50
RichturdI am unable to use my left clicker or my mouse pad clicker and I cant use all the keys on my keyboards21:50
Richturd*keyboard21:50
escottDaemonicApathy, recreate /tmp and /var/tmp and reboot21:50
questoI have a perculiar microphone issue. My microphone doesn't only send my voice, but all the sound on my computer. all media playing gets sent through the microphone. So i can never skype conversate with anyone because of all the background sound emitting from my end21:51
amiusounds like they are broken21:51
amiu@ Richturd21:51
DaemonicApathyescott: That seems to cause a login loop.21:51
yeikSonikkuAmerica, just like that huh? interesting.21:51
escottDaemonicApathy, do you have the sticky bit set on those directories?21:51
questoIt's almost like my microphone is set to "What you hear" all the time21:51
jatakRichturd:  You might have to install a driver for your touchpad. As for your keyboard, I wouldn't have a clue.21:51
MoPacescott: yeik: Ah okay, sorry for the noob-ness. As a Win user, I'm used to knowing what's stored in Program Files, what's in C:/Windows, and what's in the user AppData folder, and I really don't know when it comes to Ubuntu things21:51
DaemonicApathyescott: No idea.21:51
escottDaemonicApathy, should be 777+sticky21:51
Richturddo I need a new version of UBUNTU, because ever since I installed this version of ubuntu it's happened21:52
jatakRichturd:  What version are you using?21:52
escott!fhs | MoPac21:52
ubottuMoPac: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview  see also: man hier21:52
quandtumRichturd: why don't you share your version of Ubuntu so folks can help.  Can't tell if you need a new version if we don't know your current version.21:52
amiuyou need to stop bashing your keyboard and mouse21:52
jatakYes, that would helpt too21:52
RichturdHOw do I find out what version it is?21:52
Richturdquandtum21:52
jatakAre you using Unity?21:52
DaemonicApathyQuantum Quetzal is 12.1021:53
kunjiRichturd: Hmm, maybe you installed from a corrupted disc/usb, did you make sure to do a checksum before installing?21:53
questoIs there anyone online that can try to shed some light on my microphone issue?21:53
MoPacI've read the system tree overview, but I still found myself not intuitively knowing, e.g., if I tell a Cinnamon applet extension not to pop up a dialog window when I do X, where in the filesystem is that?  I know it's something I'll just have to feel out over time.  In the meantime, I'm hoping to be able to do a pretty comprehensive backup21:53
DaemonicApathyescott: Can I actually put "777+sticky" into chmod?21:53
jatakRichturd:  Just click the little "gear" icon in the upper right corner of the screen, then click "About this computer"21:53
RichturdI didnt do the install kunji21:53
escottDaemonicApathy, no21:53
jatakjatak:  By that I mean the shutdown menu icon21:53
escottDaemonicApathy, you would have to lookup how to set the sticky bit21:53
DaemonicApathyescott: Ok, thought I was going crazy for a moment. I can handle that, thanks.21:54
escottDaemonicApathy, o+s maybe... not sure21:54
Richturdjatak there is no gear icon in the upper right hand21:54
Richturdtheres only the power icon21:54
questoHello, I have a problem with my microphone, my issue is that it keeps picking up background sound and sends it through the microphone when I talk. can someone help me?21:54
kunjiquesto: Hmm, could you give some more details21:54
jatakRichturd:  Yeah that's what I meant21:54
quandtumRichturd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckingYourUbuntuVersion21:54
questokunji, my microphone picks up all the background sound on my computer21:55
jatakRichturd:  I forgot I have a different icon theme, sorry21:55
escottMoPac, easier way. you run as MoPac. you can only modify files in /home/MoPac and /tmp. /tmp is deleted on reboot so its definitely not there. therefore it must be in /home/MoPac21:55
kunjiquesto: Isn't that normally how a microphone works?21:55
arvenduhow can i open /home/user/.mozilla ?21:55
questokunji, it's only supposed to send my voice, not youtube sounds for instance21:55
questokunji, it doesn't "isolate" my voice21:55
escottarvendu, open nautilus. ctrl-L "/home/user/.mozilla"21:55
MoPacescott: That's a very helpful rule of thumb; thanks21:55
yeikquesto, are you using headphones?21:55
Taylr0xIs it just 'sudo apt-get update' I need to type to update my system or is there another command to go along with it?21:56
questoyeik, I am using a headset21:56
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DaemonicApathyTaylr0x: after that, sudo apt-get upgrade21:56
questoyeik, it's almost like my microhone is set to "What you hear" all the time, if you know what I'm saying21:56
escottTaylor, update just updates the list of software that could be installed. upgrade installs the safe stuff. dist-upgrade the potentially dangerous stuff21:56
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kunjiquesto: Oh, should have said so, so you're saying the sound routing inside your machine isn't right, I don't think that has to do with your mic at all21:56
questokunji, I guess so21:56
Taylr0xThanks DaemonicApathy & escott.21:57
yeikquesto, if the microphone can hear the things coming from the speakers, it will send it on. it doesn't discriminate on sounds it picks up.21:57
questokunji, I have no clue what to do about it tough21:57
yeikother than that, kunji is right. and that gets a little more complicated but should be easy to fix.21:57
questoyeik, I am not using speakers, I am using headphones/headset21:57
yeikyeah, but if you have the music loud enough, it still can be picked up. not very common but it does happen.21:58
questoyeik, kunji any suggestions?21:58
kunjiquesto: First thing I would check is the sound settings through the normal settings menu in Ubuntu.  After that I would probably go on the command line and see what can be changed by using alsamixer21:58
Sendoushihow can i create a file with console?21:58
escottSendoushi, touch filename21:59
Sendoushitouch?21:59
DaemonicApathyquesto, in the sound settings, what is your input device?21:59
jatakSendoushi:  That's the command21:59
jataktouch filename21:59
NaN123using a text editor21:59
Sendoushithanks21:59
Sendoushiit worked :)21:59
questoDaemonicApathy, On the input tab it says Microphone, which is weird21:59
yeikSendoushi, what are you trying to do?21:59
DaemonicApathySwitch to headphones, then back to microphone. Test, and let us know.21:59
Sendoushiyeik: http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/tutorial/install-mongodb-on-ubuntu/21:59
questoDaemonicApathy, wait, just a sec22:00
DeadWeaselwhen looking at LSMOD, what does USED BY number signify?22:00
kunjiquesto:I think having mic there is normal, the trouble is that something else is being output to the mic I think22:00
yeik Sendoushi why do you need to create a file from the console with that tutorial?22:00
onitaL!facebook22:00
ShukkoOHello, is there annyone that can please give me a link to a howto where i can replace my macOS to ubuntu. The last one i tryed gave me an bad OS :(22:00
onitaL!apropos account22:01
questokunji, yes22:01
Sendoushiyeik: "create a /etc..."22:01
bekksDeadWeasel: The number of other modules using this specific module.22:01
Sendoushito config the 10gen i guess22:01
questoDaemonicApathy, doesn't help22:01
DeadWeaselbekks: thanks, so if it's listed at all, at least one module is using it?22:01
yeikSendoushi, ahh. that line, it wants you to edit the file, nano, vi, ed, are all good programs to edit a file22:01
Sendoushiyep i've used nano22:01
DaemonicApathyquesto, ok then, alsamixer in the command line was a good suggestion22:01
bekksDeadWeasel: No. If it is listed at all, it is loaded at least.22:01
jatakOr gedit22:01
Sendoushii'm understanding more of the linux console now :)22:01
yeikok.22:01
Sendoushii installed vim but... for what i want... i just removed22:02
DeadWeaselbekks: ok22:02
yeiknano can create files too, so you don't have to use touch first.22:02
Sendoushiah... ok then22:02
Taylr0xHow do you do a search for software via the terminal?22:02
Sendoushiit's good to know also so...22:02
Sendoushinow... how can i do a nfs folder so i can access on the host OS ?22:02
yeikTaylr0x, what do you mean, are you looking for where? or software to install?22:02
kunjiDaemonicApathy: Do you know the sound system in Ubuntu well?  Because after alsamixer I'm kind of stumped for general troubleshooting... the linux sound system could use some simplification.22:03
Taylr0xyeik,  I'm trying to find Open Office to install. But can't seem to find it on the software centre?22:03
yeikSendoushi, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-export-directory-with-nfs4/ for linux export nfs22:03
g16Taylor: apt-get install libreoffice22:03
Sendoushithanks mate :)22:03
g16OpenOffice.org is defunct.22:03
g16.. or slowly dying22:04
DaemonicApathykunji: I used to, but for now I'm kind of limited. :-)22:04
jatakDoes anyone know how to find where an application shortcut in the Unity Dash is pointing to?22:04
questoDaemonicApathy, I think I've solved it22:04
mugsy__pulseaudio volume control app can be helpful22:04
DaemonicApathyg16: might want to s/libreoffice/libreoffice*22:04
* yeik agrees that the linux sound system has its issues. you have several different ways of doing things and sometimes it just doesn't work right.22:04
gueriLLaPunKanyone familar with x2go? I want my programs to be running even if I log out of it. how do i do that?22:04
mugsy__it's more verbose and lets you see all the inputs etc22:04
questoDaemonicApathy, lowered some stuff and now it doesn't pick up22:05
jatakI have multiple copies of the same application in the Unity Dash, so I think that there's multiple shortcuts in different locations22:05
bekksjatak: There arent multiple shortcuts. All you can see is the same thing twice.22:05
jatakbekks:  Yes, but why would it show the same thing twice?22:06
kunjiquesto:Oh hmm, interesting, might even have been crosstalk on some wires because of the volume rather than an actual source/sink issue.22:06
ShukkoOHello, is there annyone that can please give me a link to a howto where i can replace my macOS to ubuntu. The last one i tryed gave me an bad OS :(.22:06
bekksjatak: Thats a question I cant answer, because I never experienced that particular problem.22:06
g16DaemonicApathy: thank you22:06
mugsy__questo: have you tried looking at the levels in pavucontrol?22:06
bekksjatak: But basically, there is no such folder where the content of the starter is stored.22:07
jatakbekks:  Oh, an I uninstalled LibreOffice earlier, but there are still those extra shortcuts in the dash22:07
Taylr0xg16, DaemonicApathy, what is the difference between the two commands you both typed?22:07
kunjiquesto: This might be helpful if you have any other sound issue later: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting22:07
questomugsy__, will do that now22:07
questokunji, thanks alot22:07
jatakbekks:  I know there *shouldn't* be a folder like that, but what I'm saying is maybe a I (or some program) created a directory full of symlinks22:08
DaemonicApathyTaylr0x: apt-get install libreoffice* will install all the components. No *, probably no luck without specifying which component.22:08
KxTwohey guys are there any console emulators for linux?  So far all my em's are for windows22:08
g16Without *, it brings a functional LO on my system.22:08
bekksjatak: Which did not happen, as I told you three times now. :)22:08
g16Never tried the *-version22:08
kunjiKxTwo: There are indeed22:08
bekksKxTwo: Whats an "em"?22:08
kunjibekks: Short for emulator I guess22:09
jatakbekks:  You don't know that, and repeating it three times doesn't make it any more true22:09
Taylr0xSo am I typing apt-get install s/libreoffice/libreoffice* ?22:09
KxTwokunji, what consoles???22:09
bekksjatak: Well, then prove me wrong, once you found out "the truth".22:09
Richturdwhen was the new version of ubuntu released? and where can I obtain it?22:09
DaemonicApathyshukkoo: http://tech-devnet.blogspot.de/2012/05/running-ubuntu-1204-on-mac.html22:10
mandoguitubuntu.com   of course22:10
kunjiKxTwo: PS for sure, I think the PS2 one was, but I think development on it stopped because there wasn't enough interest or something, it's been a long time since I looked at it.22:10
OerHeksKxTwo,  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Emulators22:10
bekks!raring > Richturd22:10
ubottuRichturd, please see my private message22:10
ShukkoOTY DaemonicApathy <322:10
kunjiOerHeks: Ah, nice22:10
Richturdwhen was it released???22:10
OerHeksps is not on it, and wii ..22:11
bekksRichturd: It WILL be released in April 2013.22:11
Richturdbekks: you smart aleck son of a bitch22:11
KxTwoI'd love a ps2 emulator but I hear they are buggy and need a ton of power22:11
bekksRichturd: Watch your language.22:11
Richturdbekks: how old is the version before this new one?22:12
kunjiOerHeks:Right, there used to be a PS one in the repos, it's been gone for ages though, I'm sure a ppa or something can be found though22:12
bekksRichturd: The current version was released in October 2012.22:12
* mandoguit smells a troll22:12
KxTwodamn, all the ems on that link only go as high as snes and thats inactive22:12
OerHekskunji, KxTwo  and see this post > http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11381491&postcount=3 old but still valid i think22:12
Richturdbekks: do you like it?22:12
bekksRichturd: Thats not part of ubuntu support. :)22:13
KxTwonice link OerHeks, how did you find that so quickly!22:13
Richturdbekks: I ask cuz mine wont let me use all my keys or all the capabilities of my mouse and it's a mini laptop22:13
Richturdan Asus Eee PC22:14
bekks!details | Richturd22:14
ubottuRichturd: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."22:14
kunjiOerHeks: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was a different one I used for PS: this one I think: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9583522:14
Taylr0xRichturd, what version are you running at the moment?22:14
OerHeksKxTwo, some games can run slow, but it all depends on amount ram available and your CPU/driver22:14
RichturdTaylr0x: i dont know, i didnt install it22:14
Sendoushihow do you do a { on server? is it with altgr?22:14
Taylr0xRichturd, have a nose through your menu and you should be able to find something that will give you the information on the current install. usually reads 'about' etc22:15
KxTwoOerHeks, I should be fine for older systems up until at least n64.  Not sure if my laptop can handle anything higher than that.  I am running 4 gigs of ram with a turion dual core22:15
RichturdI'm running 2.6.38 with Linux, Taylr0x22:15
jatakRichturd:  ...I don't think you are22:16
Taylr0xRichturd, as an alternative, download the current 12.10 release and boot from a CD or USB stick (Live CD) and see if it works in the new version. If so, reinstall.22:16
RichturdThats what it says at the boot up screen jatak22:16
kunjiKxTwo: http://www.epsxe.com/download.php not sure what you need to do to run it, but it's available in executable form, will probably run out of the box.22:16
jatakRichturd:  That would be the kernel version, you don't need to worry about it22:16
bekks2.6.38 is a horrible old kernel :)22:16
Richturdjatak I dont know what that means im a linux/ubuntu uber noob22:17
bekksRichturd: So which Ubuntu version do you run currently?22:17
kunjiKxTwo:Well, with the bios of course, which we won't be talking about here22:17
jatakRichturd:  Like I said before, click the power icon in the upper-right hand corner, then click "About this computer"22:17
KxTwo??22:17
Richturdbekks that one22:17
Richturd2.6.3822:17
bekksRichturd: Thats not an UBUNTU version, but a KERNEL version.22:17
onitaLc:22:17
bekksRichturd: Whats the output of "lsb_release -sd" in a terminal?22:18
kunjibekks: Sounds like 12.04 though right?22:18
bekkskunji: Sound more like 10.04 :)22:18
Richturdthats great bekks so what do I do if I want my asus eeepc 701 to run smoother22:18
KxTwooh nice22:18
DaemonicApathyAlright, I'm back in business. Thanks for the permissions help, I haven't dealt with tmp folders much.22:18
KxTwoI can get pcsx right from software center22:18
bekksRichturd: First, you have to answer my question.22:18
kunjibekks: Oh, hmm22:18
KxTworeally wish they listed hw requirements22:18
Richturdbekks how do i get to the terminal from my desktop?22:19
kunjibekks: Ah, 11.04  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases22:19
bekksRichturd: By clicking the menu item which is named "Terminal".22:19
Taylr0xIs there a standard Firewall that everyone runs nowdays or do people still rely on just common sense and the solid restrictions of the OS itself?22:19
DeadWeaselhow to tell which WIFI driver i am ACTUALLY using?22:19
bekks11.04? Thats not supported anymore.22:20
kunjiDeadWeasel: I believe with modprobe, but I'm not sure how exactly22:20
gueriLLaPunKso if i want to run a program at start up (eg. a program in WINE) do i make a cron job or something?22:20
DeadWeaselkunji: thanks, i'm looking it up22:20
onitaLkunji, DeadWeasel not modprobe, but lsmod22:21
Richturdbekks I think I should just reboot and maybe that'll take me to the terminal because there is no terminal in the menu22:21
onitaLDeadWeasel, try wpa_cli status22:21
kunjionitaL: Ah, thanks, my bad22:21
bekksRichturd: Which will not take you to a terminal. And your Ubuntu version isnt supported anymore, if it is 11.04 - and there IS a menu entry named "Terminal".22:22
mandoguitDeadWeasel:   install the following    cuts down on a lot of messing around when figuring out what is installed etc  imho   http://code.google.com/p/inxi/22:22
Richturdits not 11.04 it's 2.6.38!!!!22:22
Zedukedoes anyone have steam working on 12.10?22:22
Richturdi hate this damn thing22:22
bekksRichturd: No. The KERNEL version is 2.6.38, which is NOT the UBUNTU version. You already have been told that.22:23
|nv|s|b|eRichturd>  go to menu / admin / system monitor22:23
kunjiRichturd: 11.04 would be the Ubuntu release corresponding to that kernel.  Released in the 4th month of 2011, see the Table of versions here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases22:23
Richturdok kunji22:24
ErtanERBEKanyone know how can I hide windows content at drag or move time22:24
SenjaiRichturd: I usggest you pick up a systems administrators guide22:24
kunjiZeduke: Someone does, not me though, I figured I would wait until Summer... because I have school right now, and also I think the process will have made itself somewhat easier by then :P22:25
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dr_willis_ErtanERBEK:  that would be a feature of the window manager. im not sure if unity/compiz has settings for that in the CCSM tool or not.. ive not looked  at those for ages22:26
rusfusexcuse me, then I go to bed I have the jewelry that I smoke.22:26
rusfusafter a night of intense issues in part xubuntu, and since basically my 2 pc also would support ubuntu, suse or gnome, since I know the new community 'and still do not know how to use linux well, according to you what is best or ubuntu debian? I decided that tomorrow I install a new operating system!22:26
FloodBot1rusfus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:26
MikeHAnyone use native ZFS?22:26
MikeHI've imported a pool successfully, but I've no idea where the device is to map it?22:26
MikeH]22:26
Zedukei cant wait but 12.10 is really awesome i just wish i could use skype/steam22:26
bekksMikeH: Yes, on Solaris.22:26
JuJuBeeMy login process has crashed or frozen on my other computer.  I can login to terminal.  How can I force the restart of the gui?22:27
arvenduwhat is poor color depth for rdesktop ?22:27
SonikkuAmericaIs it possible to install Ubuntu GNOME 12.10 using the method described here?: http://ubuntu-with-wubi.blogspot.com/2012/10/tricking-wubi-installing-xubuntu.html (Not that it's recommended)22:27
ErtanERBEKdr_willis_, I am using gnome-shell with Ubuntu22:27
arvendumy rdesktop is bit slow becz of color depth :(22:27
bekksarvendu: 8bit.22:27
|nv|s|b|egnome-session-quit22:27
SenjaiJuJuBee: you can just sudo reboot. i dont know about gnome/unity22:27
kunjirusfus: madlibs?  Take that to ubuntu-offtopic :P22:27
SenjaiJuJuBee: I just use Kubuntu22:27
arvendurdesktop -a 8 server ?22:27
onitaLinit 5 won't do the trick?22:27
JuJuBeeSenjai: I would prefer to not reboot if possible.22:27
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ErtanERBEKcompiz have transparent feature for windows moeving but gnome-shell not have22:27
JuJuBeeSenjai: I also use kubuntu22:28
onitaLinit 4 && init 5 ?22:28
dr_willis_!runlevel22:28
ubottuIn Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.22:28
rusfuskunji ??sorry but they are just noob22:28
gueriLLaPunKWhere do I put this cmd to run a program on boot in wine? "wine /home/user/.wine/drive_c/windows/notepad.exe"22:28
ubuntu-noobytest22:28
SenjaiJuJuBee: ttry sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart22:29
Richturdif i am having problems with Ubuntu recognizing some of the keys on the asus eeepc 701 should I just go into the system preferences and fix it there???22:29
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SenjaiJuJuBee: I did it alst time. Not sure what process it is, but it brought me back to the login22:29
ubuntu-noobyCan someone take a look at this dmesg output.  I think my SSD is dying: http://pastebin.com/WEvF4wsQ22:29
bekksRichturd: No. You have to upgrade to a supported Ubuntu release before asking for support :)22:29
SenjaiRichturd: we dont support old versions of Ubuntu here.22:30
RichturdFORGET YOU ALL THEN22:30
SenjaiRichturd: Bye22:30
JuJuBeeSenjai: sudo restart kdm  worked22:30
SenjaiJuJuBee: good to know22:30
Richturdsenjai, you damn zipperhead, just effing help me22:31
Richturdput the chow mein down and help22:31
Richturdyou damn gook chink from hell22:31
isaiascan i get some help with virtualbox?22:31
SenjaiRichturd: we are volunteers, you are not entitled for help. Sorry to say.22:31
Richturdyou no good lazy slant22:31
SenjaiRichturd: Try google. Or maybe you shouldnt use Linux/GNU if this is your attitude toward it, you won't learn anything22:31
bekksRichturd: Watch you language please. Your version of Ubuntu isnt supported, so stop insulting people.22:31
bekks!ops | Richturd22:31
ubottuRichturd: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U, DJones!22:31
kunjibekks: Thanks, I should remember ops :P22:32
ubuntu-noobyRichturd: Don't be that guy.  Slurs are unwelcome here.  I'm green as grass and even I know that.22:32
isaiasim trying to install virtualbox and it says "FATAL: No bootable medium found! System Halted."22:32
Myrttialright then, please be excellent to each other22:32
Senjaiisaias: ask in #vbox22:32
isaiastrying to install windows 7 in virtualbox*22:32
isaiasok, ty!22:32
Senjaiisaias: goodluck.22:33
Richturdyou're as green as the collagreen you eat you damn stupid nigger22:33
gueriLLaPunKWhere do I put this cmd to run a program on boot in wine?    "wine /home/user/.wine/drive_c/windows/notepad.exe"22:33
SenjaiThank you Myrtti22:33
gswaincan the Ubuntu Builder build server images? or does it have to be GUI?22:33
bekksMyrtti: thx22:33
kunjiMyrtti: Thanks very much!22:34
rhwaltjoin #cw22:35
SenjaigueriLLaPunK: ask in #winehq22:35
lars__hi all22:35
lars__how to install linux 3.5 (quantal) in 12.04 precise?22:35
gueriLLaPunKSenjai, i thought i had enter that cmd somewhere in ubuntu and not in wine.22:35
ikonialars__: you don't22:35
gueriLLaPunKi just need to run that cmd in ubuntu on startup, Sendoushi22:36
ikonialars__: you use the kernel thats supplied by your version22:36
lars__ikonia, ?22:36
gueriLLaPunKSenjai,22:36
SenjaigueriLLaPunK: check your startup and shutdown settings.22:36
gueriLLaPunKwhere are those?22:36
SenjaigueriLLaPunK: are you actually trying to use wine for notepad/22:36
SenjaigueriLLaPunK: just curious22:36
gueriLLaPunKno, thats just an example22:37
lars__ikonia, the problem is linux 3.2 has a problem on my hardware22:37
gueriLLaPunKi just need to run a wine cmd at startup22:37
lars__ikonia, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/99318722:37
ubottuUbuntu bug 993187 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently." [Critical,Won't fix]22:37
kunjilars__: Is it fixed in 3.5?  Maybe upgrade to 12.0422:38
SenjaigueriLLaPunK: Found this from a simple google search: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176797922:38
RichturdWhy you kick me out?22:38
SenjaiRichturd: you're belligerant.22:38
Richturdyou're unhelpful and rude22:38
|nv|s|b|eand name calling was ok ?22:38
mandoguitmore to the point why did they let you back in....just be glad i am not an op...you would never return22:38
SenjaiMyrtti:  :/22:38
Richturdwhat did I say so bad?22:38
|nv|s|b|eif your that ignorant, you need help22:39
ikonialars__: sorry, I don't see anything saying a later kenel will fix it, and even if it does, that doesn't change what I said22:39
Myrttiguise, can you please keep to Ubuntu support22:39
RichturdYEs I need help with my asus eeepc22:39
MyrttiRichturd: which version of Ubuntu are you running?22:39
|nv|s|b|eRichturd!*@* added to ignore list.22:39
RichturdI am running 2.6.38 ubuntu with linux22:39
SenjaiRichturd: You were told multiple times, you need the latest version of ubuntu before we can help you. 11.04/11.10 is not supported here.22:39
ikonia|nv|s|b|e: you don't need to announce it22:39
Myrtti|nv|s|b|e: that's not helpful either22:39
SenjaiRichturd: that is your kernel version.22:40
MyrttiRichturd: no, which version of Ubuntu?=22:40
serp_what about 12.04?22:40
kunjiMyrtti: We're trying T.T, he's running an unsupported version, I believe 11.0422:40
serp_LTS isnt it22:40
SenjaiMyrtti: we determined earlier it was 11.0422:40
bekksSenjai: 11.10 is still supported, isnt it?22:40
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lars__bekks, a few months22:40
kunjibekks: No, it's not22:40
Senjaibekks: not that I know of, 12.04 and 12.1022:40
Richturdwhere can I download and how do I do it?22:40
lundyday 8 of Ubuntu and <3 still going22:41
Senjai!install | Richturd22:41
ubottuRichturd: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate22:41
bekkskunji: Senjai: It is supported until April 2013.22:41
Senjaibekks: noted.22:41
bekksSenjai: And 10.04 is supported until April 2013 as well.22:41
Senjaibekks: Orly,22:41
Richturdcan I do it via USB stick?22:41
Taylr0xYes.22:41
SenjaiRichturd: Yes22:41
kunjibekks: That's weird, see the release timeline: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases  Where are you looking that says 11.04 is still supported?22:41
STMelontopic reads: Currently supported versions 8.04 LTS (server only), 10.04 LTS, 11.10, 12.04 LTS and 12.1022:41
* STMelon sighs22:41
DeadWeaselFor the record, nm-tool is a good way to detemine network drivers.  INXI is not easy to install.22:41
bekkskunji: I never did say that. I said that 11.10 is still supported.22:42
KxTwook got a ps1 emulator now for a rom!22:42
kunjibekks: Oh, my bad22:42
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DeadWeaselit is very difficult to get the network card to use a different drive in 12.04?22:42
DeadWeaseldriver*22:42
SenjaiKxTwo: we don't talk about those things here..22:42
KxTwosure we do22:42
kunjibekks: Sorry, don't know why I misread that, my mistake22:42
kunjiKxTwo: About emulators, not about roms, don't get yourself in trouble22:43
bekksKxTwo: Thats clearly against licensing agreements. And breaking them is not supported in here.22:43
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DeadWeaselare USB wifi cards not good to use or just mine?22:44
KxTwoThere are many roms that are free to use, and roms for purchases games are not against licensing agreements :)22:44
SenjaiKxTwo: Point is, its not about ubuntu22:44
ubuntu-noobyCan someone take a look at this dmesg output.  I'm not sure if this means my filesystem is damaged or the disk is.  http://pastebin.com/WEvF4wsQ22:44
SenjaiKxTwo: It doesnt belong here22:44
KxTwoJeez some people are way too anal22:44
kunjiDeadWeasel: I think you just hit a bad one, mine all work, even ones with no working windows drivers22:44
DeadWeaselwell, I haven't actually been able to chang ethe driver yet.22:45
DeadWeaselkunji: why is it so hard to change a driver?22:45
DeadWeaseli have downloaded them, make clean, make install, etc.  rebooted.  still on old driver.22:45
SenjaiDeadWeasel: Ubuntu doesnt support many of the proprietary drivers for hardware.22:45
DeadWeaselSenjai: they don't support much for wifi.   Can you recommend a good USB wifi card?22:46
DeadWeaselI'm fed up22:46
kunjiDeadWeasel: Hmm, I don't think it's all that bad, it's something I haven't had to do yet though.  I think it basically consists of installing the new driver and blacklisting the old one to make sure it doesn't load.22:46
SenjaiDeadWeasel: I wish I could, but I always had no issues with my onboard wifi.22:46
gueriLLaPunKwhere do i enter this cmd to start a wine program at starup? "wine /home/user/.wine/drive_c/windows/notepad.exe"22:46
KxTwoI do have a question about a wifi issue.  I installed ubuntu on a friends laptop for a dual boot.  The wireless will connect to not secure networks(albeit slowly) however I cannot get it to connect to networks with security?22:46
DeadWeaselkunji: so I do need to blacklist the old first?22:46
DeadWeaselok22:46
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SenjaiDeadWeasel: yes it is possible, to answer your question, you can hook a disk drive up to your sound card and use it. It is definitely possible to route internet through another device22:47
SenjaiKxTwo: what error do you get22:47
KxTwoNo error, it just tries to connect for a while then pops up with the password screen22:47
kunjiDeadWeasel: I can recommend something better than a card, TP-Link has a nano router powered through usb that can be used in an adapter mode to provide wireless through the ethernet connection.22:47
SenjaiKxTwo: restart networking or the computer and try again.22:48
SenjaiKxTwo: either that or its not interacting with DHCP properly and you might have to setup a static IP22:48
KxTwoSenjai I have tried all the basic stuff, thats why Im here.22:48
DeadWeaselkunji: that sounds like another pile of problems, have you tried this in 12.04 x64?22:48
KxTwosenjai its a school network no static ip22:48
SenjaiKxTwo: Uhh yea, school networks use a different infrastructure than your standard WiFi, and you need to be able to identify that infrastructure before you can connect to it.22:49
kunjiDeadWeasel: The router, yes, the connection are both very basic right, it's just using the usb connect for power, so to the computer it looks like it's on a wired network just using ethernet22:49
SenjaiKxTwo: generic home/small business wifi should be no issue22:49
KxTwoWell it connects to the open network22:49
KxTwoslowly though, just not the secured one22:49
SenjaiKxTwo: Yes, but it doesnt have to auth to it.22:49
SenjaiKxTwo: Authenticated to a network like that is a whole different story22:49
Senjai!networking | KxTwo22:49
KxTwoIm aware of that22:49
DeadWeaselkunji: so I am connected via ethernet cable, but powering said device via USAB?22:49
kunjiDeadWeasel: I can also connect the router to a switch instead and provide internet to a bunch of wired machines22:50
kunjiDeadWeasel: Yeah22:50
SenjaiKxTwo: Its one of the things ubuntu doesnt do well on its own and you have to tinke rwith.22:50
KxTwowhat is the fix?22:50
DeadWeaselkunji: basic NANO model?22:50
SenjaiKxTwo: you have to mimic the networks configuration22:50
michal_how can i instal league of legend on ubuntu?22:50
KxTwoI've had no problem with any of the other systems I've done this too.22:50
SenjaiKxTwo: meaning you need to know a little about how linux/gnu works.22:50
kunjiDeadWeasel: Or there's a pretty good dongle TP-Link has as well that you can probably find for < 10$ on Amazon22:50
SenjaiKxTwo: No two systems are  identical22:50
DeadWeaselkunji: gotta go take the lamb roast out and eat it, back, well, sometime...  thank you for all your help!22:50
KxTwooi vey22:50
KxTwook thanks22:50
Senjaimichal_: Wine, but its not supported.22:51
kunjiDeadWeasel:No problem, I'll go find that dongle as well so I can give you the model number22:51
Felshi all -22:51
michal_hi22:51
AtumHey Fels22:51
Felsi wanted to install ubuntu as a 2nd choice on my Win 722:52
Felshow can I do this22:52
kunjiDeadWeasel: It's a TP-Link TL-WN821N22:52
AtumYou can dual-boot your system22:52
FelsAtum, even thought I already running hte win 7 for about a year and I rely on it and cannot trash it22:53
Senjai!install | Fels22:53
ubottuFels: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate22:53
AtumFels, check http://bit.ly/33jLwN22:53
AtumFels, you can install it on a unnused HD space, by partitioning it22:54
Felswhat about "Live" ??22:55
dunleavycan any one assist with kvm guest bridge problems on ubuntu 12.04 lts?22:55
dunleavyi've followed the ubuntu wiki on kvm, setup bridged networking via br0 and assigned it to the guests config22:55
SenjaiAtum: please only reccomend the officiall !install reccomendations.22:55
dunleavyenabled all settings as per the wiki for sysctl.conf and parse the changes22:55
SenjaiAtum: as then we know how to assist if things go awry22:56
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dunleavybut i still cannot see traffic from guest on br0 pinging the host22:56
Atum!install22:56
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate22:56
dr_willis_Fels:  a live cd is not an installed system.. so works a little differntly22:56
Felsdr_willis_, thx - I need to run the mobile dev tools -22:57
dr_willis_no idea what you mean by mobile dev tools..22:57
FelsUbuntu mobile. ?22:58
kunjiDeadWeasel:http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WN821N-Wireless-N-802-11b-Wireless/dp/B002D5EIT4   Hmm, I guess prices went up (I got it around black friday I guess.  Here is the router I mentioned: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=33-704-134  It's just a little bit annoying to set up because you need to assign your comp a static ip on the same subnet to configure it, but after that it just works22:58
oojavaHi I was wondering if there was a way to make a live cd that could not install on the host computer? I'm going to be giving a live cd to some of my not so tech savy friends to try and want to make sure that destruction of all of their files is not a click away...22:58
meeluwhat is easy method adding ipv6 block23:00
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Senjaimeelu: gotta be more specific23:00
meelumy isp provided gateway netmask and ip with /6423:00
escottoojava, you could make a liveusb with persistent storage and then remove ubiquity or you could just install to a usb directly. otherwise look for a non-distro based livecd23:00
Senjaioojava: its really simple. As long as they dont select the "Use whole drive" option23:00
Senjaierr nvm23:01
Senjaidont listen to me23:01
mandoguitor rewritable dvd/cd23:02
oojavaoh ok I'll lookinto that... so if I install to a usb it wont allow for full install?23:02
dr_willis_a full install to usb wont allow for installing to the hd.. but they could still access ther windows stuff and delete junk. ;)23:02
escottoojava, if it doesnt have ubiquity it doesnt have the installer23:03
oojavathanks dr_willis_23:03
Senjaidr_willis_: that's my favorite part.23:03
oojavaescott:  how do i remove the ubinquity23:03
Senjaidr_willis_: I remember when someone was argueing with me saying windows is secure and cant be physically broken in too. Couldnt believe I could do it with a USB stick haha.23:03
SenjaiGood times.23:03
Senjaiarguing823:03
Senjai***23:04
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oojavawow thanks for the help all im going to go do more research23:04
kunjioojava:Why give them a liveCD?  You can do a full install to a usb instead, and that will not have ubiquity (I think)23:04
oojavaok how much space do i need on the usb inorder to fully install23:05
kunjiAnybody know if ubiquity is installed during the install process?  I think it's not, but I'm not sure23:05
dr_willis_physical access to a box = very little security23:05
KxTwowhy would software show up on the software list but then say I can't download it.23:05
kunjioojava: Like 4 gigs, I would go for an 8 though23:05
dr_willis_KxTwo:  we would need a more specific error message.. like one from the apt-get install command23:06
oojavakunji:  k thanks23:06
meeluHello again, I need to setup ipv6 on my server which has ubuntu 12.x, I have the Gateway, Netmask and Ip/64. Can anyone give me the easiest method which i can use with ubuntu please, i tried editing /etc/network/interfaces but it doesn't seem to make any difference.23:06
onitaLuh oh23:06
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KxTwoubuntu software center, zsnes emulator no install option, more options says: There isn’t a software package called “zsnes” in your current software sources.23:06
escottmeelu, you should be dualstack capable by default23:07
dr_willis_!info zsnes23:07
ubottuzsnes (source: zsnes): Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.510-2.2ubuntu5 (quantal), package size 893 kB, installed size 4108 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)23:07
meeluescot, i don't see the ip given to me with  ip -6 addr show dev eth023:07
meelu though23:07
dr_willis_KxTwo:  its in the universe repo.   what ubuntu reelase are you using?23:07
meeluescott, *23:08
KxTwo12.0423:08
kunjimeelu: I thought ipv6 was used out of the box?  Hmm, I haven't really played with ipv6 yet though.  Probably also ask in ##networking23:08
dr_willis_KxTwo:  be sure universe is enabled.  then do a sudo apt-get update. and sudo apt-get upgrade. and try installing it again23:08
oojavaone last novice question if they download or install anything using apt-get (like if I demo the command to them) will it messup or leave a trace on their windows box?23:09
escottmeelu, where are you and what kind of connection to the internet do you have?23:09
KxTwowhere do you go to do that?23:09
KxTwoim in software sources23:09
Senjaioojava: no.23:09
meeluescott, is this relevant?23:09
dr_willis_KxTwo:  use the terminal.23:09
escottmeelu, yes23:09
Senjaioojava: if your using persistent storage no23:10
Senjaioojava: otherwise you cant install anything anyway. Or if you install onto their disk drive.23:10
KxTwodr_willis_, I do not know how to enable or check repos in terminal23:10
meeluescott, the server is in netherlands, the ipv6 works, i forgot how i set it up before. Just reinstalled the server again.23:10
kunjioojava: Nope, it will install the packages to the USB drive in the case of a full install.  In the case of the liveCD they are installed to the virtual disc per se and will not survive a reboot.23:10
dr_willis_KxTwo:  use the gui apps if you want to be sure universe is enableed.23:10
KxTwodr_willis_, thats what im asking about lol23:10
oojavathanks kunji  and Senjai23:11
dr_willis_KxTwo:  then use the terminal to do the update/upgrade23:11
KxTwoI thought it was under the synaptic package manager and software sources23:11
escottmeelu, ok. i just wanted to make sure you werent some residential internet user whose isp may or may not have enabled them23:11
dr_willis_use the dash to search for 'software sources' perhaps23:11
meeluthanks.23:12
KxTwothats wher eim at23:12
KxTwoyou can access it through a few different ways23:12
KxTwobut see no option for universe repo23:12
KxTwowait yes I do23:13
KxTwoand its already activate23:13
Sendoushiso... i've made some nfs shares. gone to mac os and stroked it and it finds a open port and tcp on this ip. when i try to connect to the nfs server it says: "You do not have permission to access this server"23:13
KxTwook dr_willis_ I did it and still no luck23:14
KxTwo!zsnes23:15
oojavajust saw that there is also a live cd that works for mac does this allow the same root access that the live cd does on windows?23:15
dr_willis_KxTwo:  did what exactlky.. and what error messages?  use pastebin  for long pasted./23:16
KxTwoits the same as before23:16
KxTwouniverse is enabled23:16
KxTwoI updated and upgrade23:16
KxTwoit still says there is no package by that name23:16
DeadWeaselkunji: Ok, before I go buy something how do I switch to another driver for wlan0?23:17
KxTwo!info zsnes23:17
ubottuzsnes (source: zsnes): Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.510-2.2ubuntu5 (quantal), package size 893 kB, installed size 4108 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)23:17
icerootKxTwo: please paste the output of "cat /etc/issue" "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "sudo apt-get update"23:17
iceroot!paste | KxTwo23:18
ubottuKxTwo: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:18
DeadWeaselare USB wireless cards inherently difficult on 12.05 x54/23:19
DeadWeaselx64?23:19
rocky_i do have 64 bit ubuntu, in software center, can i install 32 bit jdk- i don't see it23:19
arvenduHello Guy need some centos help if anyone can23:19
escottDeadWeasel, it depends on the chipset23:19
beanDeadWeasel, x64, 12.04?23:19
OzBornehello23:19
DeadWeaselbean, yes.23:19
beanDeadWeasel, It'll depend on what kind.23:20
OzBornei use Fedora23:20
OzBorneubuntu is for chicks23:20
icerootrocky_: yes but why?23:20
bean!centos | arvendu23:20
beanaw man, theres nothing about that23:20
Senjaiarvendu: this is a channel for ubuntu, not centos23:20
DeadWeaselhttp://linuxplained.com/5-best-ubuntu-compatible-wireless-cards-usb/  is this still valid?23:20
SenjaiTry #centos23:20
lundyanyone know how I can run a Virtual box of windows through ubuntu?23:20
ubuntu-nooby"dmesg | grep EXT4" spits out: "__ext4_get_inode_loc:3630: inode #5770532: block 23068914: comm ureadahead: unable to read itable block" and there are 3 more lines like it - does that mean my harddrive is failing?23:20
icerootrocky_: sudo apt-get install packagename:i386 to install the 32bit version but why? use the 64bit versions23:20
escottlundy, install vbox, start vbox, create virtual machine, start machine, install windows23:21
icerootlundy: install virtulbox and start the vm23:21
Sendoushican anyone help me around here with nfs?23:21
OzBornedoes netbsd is for elite?23:21
iceroot!anyone | Sendoushi23:21
ubottuSendoushi: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.23:21
rocky_iceroot, this is required for juniper vpn23:21
escottubuntu-nooby, sounds more like the filesystem may be corrupted23:21
icerootOzBorne: its offtopic here23:21
OzBorneok23:21
Sendoushiiceroot: already asked...23:21
icerootSendoushi: i dont see a detailed and usefull question23:21
escottubuntu-nooby, boot the install media and run fsck on the disk23:22
icerootSendoushi: just this "anyone" thing23:22
KxTwogod damn it23:22
iceroot!nfs | Sendoushi23:22
ubottuSendoushi: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.23:22
escottubuntu-nooby, although it could be the disk is failing and you are looking at the wrong line. try grep -C10 for some context of that error23:22
kevinchhi, it appears my boot disk has ran out of room on my server install (mysql server won't start), I can't seem to find whats taking up all the space.  Does mysql take up a lot of space??23:23
kevinchIts just an xbmc database23:23
rocky_iceroot, how do i check package name of OpenJDK Java 7 Runtime shown in software center?23:23
lundyapt-get search virtualbox23:23
icerootkevinch: du -sh /23:23
Sendoushiiceroot: but i've questioned. anyway, i shared a folder on ubuntu (ubuntu is under a vm on a mac os host). after setting the nfs share, on mac os terminal i "stroke" and i see the 2049 port is open with nfsd under certain ip. try to connect to the nfs folder and it says to me: "You do not have permission to access this server." the question is... how to solve this23:23
escottkevinch, baobob is a gui tool to identify where disk usage is happening23:23
Sendoushiiceroot: by the way been following that link23:23
kevinchescott: can that be run on a server?23:23
DeadWeaselescott: description: Motherboard product: M5A97 vendor: ASUSTeK Computer INC.23:24
icerootSendoushi: paste your /etc/export and your mount-command23:24
DeadWeaselamd quad core23:24
KxTwook iceroot here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/1634733/23:24
DeadWeaselescott: description: Motherboard product: M5A97 vendor: ASUSTeK Computer INC.23:24
escottDeadWeasel, of the usb device23:24
Sendoushiiceroot: i've followed the Nfs server not the nfs4 server23:24
ubuntu-noobyescott: do you mean "dmesg | grep -C10"23:24
Sendoushibut a sec...23:24
escottDeadWeasel, and before you go and paste that. no i would not know what is a good wireless chipset23:25
escottubuntu-nooby, with your regex yes23:25
icerootKxTwo: please paste "apt-cache policy zsnes"23:25
DeadWeaselescott: okie dokey.23:25
escottkevinch, if you have it installed sure23:25
Sendoushiiceroot: i have 4 lines on export looking the same (different folders) as this: /Homes 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_subtree_check). The ubuntu-local-ip is 192.168.1.10523:26
Platzheya!  in xterm my meta-b and meta-f (alt-b and alt-f) are producing unicode gibberish instead of moving forward and backward on the bash cli.  but on urxvt it's working fine.  Any ideas on how to correct the behavior in xterm?23:26
kevinchalright I'm going to try GT5, I'm wondering if mysql is hogging all the space...23:26
kevinchI'mm getting errors like this right now23:26
kevinchmkdir: cannot create directory `/home/admiral/.gt5-diffs': No space left on device23:26
Oakdawgwhen i am installing ubuntu my display   gets messed up which f6 other options selection do i make to fix this23:26
icerootSendoushi: /Homes? not /home? does the user you are using to connect have read permission on that dir?23:26
Sendoushiiceroot: i've created Homes folder just to test23:27
Sendoushii think i've added permission but... how could i do that?23:27
icerootSendoushi: ls -all /Homes23:28
Sendoushiiceroot: root and nobody under there23:28
icerootSendoushi: drwxr-xr-x  that line is interesting23:28
Sendoushihum?23:28
icerootSendoushi: drwxr-xr-x  3 root    root     4096 Mai 24  2012 .23:29
icerootSendoushi: that line for "."23:29
escotticeroot, seems pretty normal for a /home dir23:29
Sendoushisorry still didn't get it :s23:29
icerootSendoushi: also remeber, nfs is doing UID mapping, not username mapping23:29
icerootescott: that was my example23:29
Sendoushiaaah iceroot ok i found that23:29
Sendoushisorry ...23:30
Sendoushiso... what do you think is wrong here?23:30
levodoes ubuntu have a narrator thing like windows ? (i wanna use it for Goldendict)23:30
icerootSendoushi: i still didnt saw the line23:30
escottlevo, narrator. you mean text to speech?23:30
levoyes escott23:30
Sendoushicant copy paste but you want the line that has the nobody or the root one?23:30
escottlevo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech23:30
Oakdawgdoes anyone know?23:30
icerootSendoushi: i want the drwx-r-x thing23:31
Sendoushidrwxr-xr-x 25 root root 4096 Feb 10 23:0423:31
Sendoushidrwxr-xr-x 2 nobody nogroup 4096 Feb 10 23:0423:31
Sendoushithose are the two lines existent23:31
KxTwoiceroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1634778/23:31
drop2What23:31
drop2What's teh differnece between LTS and normal ubuntu?23:31
icerootKxTwo: seems fine23:31
KxTwothats what im saying23:32
iceroot!lts | drop223:32
ubottudrop2: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)23:32
escott!lts | drop223:32
icerootKxTwo: sudo apt-get install zsnes:i38623:32
ubuntu-noobyescott: it printed to much to put here so I made a pastbin: http://pastebin.com/2NYEGPfa  The only line that looks really evil is one that says end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 20055239223:32
icerootSendoushi: hm, looks fine for me and the export line is fine too23:32
drop2Ah, I see! Thanks23:32
icerootSendoushi: you restartet nfs after you editied the export file?23:32
Oakdawgwhen i am installing ubuntu my display   gets messed up which f6 other options selection do i make to fix this23:32
Sendoushinow i should connect with something like nfs://192.168.1.105/Homes right?23:33
KxTwook that seems to be working not sure why it wouldnt isntall via software cener23:33
Sendoushii think i restarted but how could i do such thing?23:33
Sendoushiso i redo23:33
escottubuntu-nooby, scsi parity error. check your electrical connections23:33
tama92Hello !23:33
tama92Can someone help me ? I've got a weird problem....23:34
Platzin xterm my meta-b and meta-f (alt-b and alt-f) are producing unicode gibberish instead of moving forward and backward on the bash cli.  but on urxvt it's working fine.  What should I investigate to correct this?23:34
icerootSendoushi: sudo mount ipaddress:/Homes /media/foobar23:34
Senjai!ask | tama9223:34
ubottutama92: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:34
escottubuntu-nooby, ie turn off, open the case make sure everything is plugged in correctly and no wires are pinched23:34
Oakdawgdoes anyone know the problem i am having?23:35
tama92When my computer is connected to wifi, other devices can't connect23:35
Sendoushiiceroot: done, mounted to the desktop strangely... terminal doesn't tell me anything and i don't see anything different on desktop23:35
Senjaitama92: what do you mean other devices23:36
ubuntu-noobyescott: will do BBL after I replace cables23:36
icerootSendoushi: you mounted it to /home/username/Desktop?23:36
kevinchescott: when I run sudo du -sh / it hangs23:36
kevinchi freed up some space, i have about 300mb free now23:36
Sendoushiiceroot: /Users/user/Desktop23:36
escottkevinch, du will take a long time23:36
tama92I have an android device and tablet and they both can't connect23:36
kevinchokay23:36
icerootSendoushi: which system is using such strange folders?23:36
Sendoushimac os23:36
icerootSendoushi: ...23:36
tama92They are stuck at "obtaining IP address"23:36
icerootSendoushi: ##aple ##jail or something like that, ask them how to access nfs23:37
Oakdawgdo i select nomodeset?23:37
escottSendoushi, i always thought it was /Users23:37
tama92Seems to be a dhcp problem23:37
Sendoushiiceroot: anyway ubuntu side is ok right?23:37
Senjaitama92: that is a problem with your router. Nothing on your computer should be able to affect the router23:37
Senjaitama92: I agree23:37
icerootSendoushi: and dont mount something directly into an existing folder, specially not in Desktop23:37
icerootSendoushi: ubuntu side is fine23:37
Senjaitama92: you can fix that bit assigning static IP addresses to your computer23:37
icerootSendoushi: the export files is looking fine23:37
Sendoushiok thanks for all :)23:37
escotttama92, perhaps yours router is misconfigured to only give out a single ip address23:37
Senjaitama92: I generally stay away from DHCP23:38
tama92But when I turn off the wifi on the computer, they can connect again :/23:38
Sendoushiiceroot: permissions fine right?23:39
icerootSendoushi: yes23:39
icerootSendoushi: for reading yes, not for writing23:39
Oakdawganyone able to answer that question i asked?23:39
tama92I already tried disabling the dhcp setting of the router, but it didn't work23:40
Sendoushiiceroot: ooohhh how can i set it to write?23:40
SenjaiOakdawg: I cant understand your issue, you're description is very garbeled23:40
icerootSendoushi: nfs will by default dont use the user root (uid 0), it will always connect you as nobody when using root by default23:40
Senjaitama92: leave it on on the router, you assign static Ips using your computer, not the router, so it requests specific static information everytime23:40
tama92Also, when using Windows, all the devices can connect23:40
Sendoushiiceroot: sorry but... what does that have to do with writing abilities? dont the nobody has the same permissions?23:41
icerootSendoushi: no23:41
brightknightHow to change the hard disk encryption password?23:41
Oakdawgmy display goes all funny looking when installing... which f6 other options  selection do i use to fix this on the install23:41
JuJuBeeOakdawg: have you tried the "nomodeset" boot option?23:41
bean!nomodeset | Oakdawg23:41
ubottuOakdawg: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter23:41
escottbrightknight, luks or ecryptfs23:41
icerootSendoushi: rwxr-xr-x means the owner (root) can write (w) the group and others can only read (r) and execute (x)23:41
Sendoushiiceroot: on apple channel they are telling me i should be using SMB23:41
icerootSendoushi: and nfs is mapping root to "nobody"23:42
Oakdawgok that was what i had thought just wanted to make sure23:42
nomodesetPlease don't call me!23:42
icerootSendoushi: smb is fine23:42
beanlol, nomodeset23:42
brightknightescott: I think it is luks it was the one used during setup.23:42
Sendoushii'll jsut delete the nfs package and do that23:42
iceroot!samba | Sendoushi23:42
ubottuSendoushi: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.23:42
escottbrightknight, was this whole disk or encrypted home23:42
tama92When assigning a static ip I can connect but can't open anything23:42
brightknightescott: I am asking about the whole disk which is luks then.23:43
iceroottama92: because you did not set dns and gateway23:43
BECcan somebody help me reduce the size of a pdf?23:43
escottbrightknight,23:43
escotthttp://askubuntu.com/questions/95137/how-to-change-luks-passphrase23:43
tama92dns is 8.8.8.8 ?23:43
iceroottama92: for example, or your router23:43
BECI have a 4.1MB color one & another 7.9MB; I need them to be 1MB23:43
SenjaiBEC this is not relevant to Ubuntu, you'll have to ask somewhere else.23:43
magn3tsHow can I install KDM and have it NOT prompt me to choose between Lightdm and KDM?23:44
tama92Hmm, I'll try23:44
escotttama92, thats google dns23:44
semi-start --verbose mysql just says "job failed to start". how do i debug upstart scripts?23:44
magn3tsI'd like to "preconfigure" it somehow23:44
tama92Thanks.23:44
laurusHow do I purposely keep a package from updating in the package manager?23:45
icerootlaurus: with "hold" on dpkg "man dpkg"23:46
bean!pin | laurus23:46
ubottulaurus: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto23:46
onitaLecho $1 hold | dpkg --set-selections23:47
laurusThank you!23:47
kevinch16gb in /var23:47
kevinchnormal??23:47
escottkevinch, for some23:47
beankevinch, probably depends on what you have installed23:47
icerootkevinch: depending what you have stored there23:47
kevinchany idea how i can trim the fat?23:47
laurusWhat about "sudo aptitude hold package_name" ?23:47
laurusDoes making that choice in aptitude affect apt-get as well?23:48
kevinchor could I mount one a partition on one of my big drives to it?23:48
iceroot!aptitude | laurus23:48
ubottulaurus: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.23:48
icerootkevinch: sure23:48
kevinchI'd have to move everything off of it first correct and then mount it?23:48
kevinchor if i set it in fstab to /var/ will it automatically take care of it and remove it off my boot hdd and put it on my larger drives23:49
kevinchthat i set it to23:49
icerootkevinch: correct but dont mount it directly in /var/. use /var/lib/mysql/ as the mountpoint23:49
kevinchbad wording sorry23:49
escottkevinch, yes23:49
beankevinch, no, you need to move the data yourself23:49
kevinchiceroot: why /var/lib/mysql/?23:50
icerootkevinch: i thought you are facing no free space because of big mysql databases23:50
kevinchprobably23:50
icerootkevinch: sudo du -sh /var/23:50
icerootkevinch: should show /var/lib/ and then /var/lib/mysql/23:50
onitaLkevinch, what services has your system?23:51
kevinchmysql folder only has 16mb23:51
Or6itzI just installed Ubuntu on a second harddrive. I am trying to boot into it, but all I am getting is grub4dos??23:51
tama92Tried both dns, not working (destination host unreachable)23:52
beankevinch, then is it /var/log that has a bunch?23:52
tama92Is it because of dhcpd ?23:54
kevinchlet me see23:55
escotttama92, dns is a layer above basic connectivity. if you cannot ping 8.8.8.8 then you cannot use 8.8.8.8 as a dns server. sounds like you dont have an ip address/gateway configured23:55
kevinchthere a way to limit du to one level right?23:55
escottkevinch, --depth i think. check the man page23:55
kevinchnvm got it23:55
Sendoushihow can i set max permissions to a folder?23:55
Sendoushiread-write for root and everybody23:55
kevinchsudo chmod 777 /somefolder23:56
icerootSendoushi: chmod 777 /Folder23:56
Sendoushithanks23:56
tama92I put my gateway IP (192.168.1.254) with a static IP. That's the one used by my computer23:56
ubuntu-noobyescott: Swapped to a brand new Sata cable and the errors dropped off instantly and my boot time is much lower too?  Thank you very much for your help.23:56
werzer23how can I map port 8080 to port 80?23:56
escottubuntu-nooby, i would fsck the filesystem as well. hopefully none of the errors got onto the medium23:57
matlockcross your fingers about that too23:58
onitaLwerzer23, you want to do that without a router?23:58
kunjiwerzer23: Umm, in a typical situation you would do that as it goes through your router, could you provide more details?23:58
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tama92I couldn't ping the router too :/23:59
ubuntu-noobyescott: will do.  Atleast now I know my disk doesn't have to get tossed into the trash23:59
kevinchfound the culprit23:59
kevinch16G/var/lib/backuppc23:59
kevinchI don't even use that any more23:59
kevinchjust was messing around with it23:59
matlocktama92, you're trying to what?23:59
ubuntu-noobyescott: Thanks again, and take care23:59

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