[00:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Mathnerd314, I doubt it was meant to send stuff; I'm not too sure of your phone specs.
[00:00] <zykotick9> jonboy: do you have any other questions?  i'll be leaving very shortly.
[00:00] <specialpurpose> zykotick9: it doesn't look like anyone here is able to help and I am under time pressure -- is there a "cheap" way I can buy my way out of it?
[00:00] <specialpurpose> zykotick9: I cannot pay $250.oo for support
[00:00] <jonboy> zykotick9: nope. I just changed the permissions and everything works great.  I owe you...
[00:00] <zykotick9> jonboy: well done
[00:01] <specialpurpose> zykotick9: however, I would pay $25 surely
[00:01] <zykotick9> specialpurpose: i doubt many people use virtual interfaces, i never have.  good luck man.
[00:04] <Physicist> Ubuntu tweak does not open! Any devoce?
[00:04] <Physicist> Ubuntu tweak does not open! Any device?
[00:06] <specialpurpose> If no one in the Ubuntu channel knows how to bring up eth0:1 with a DHCP address and no one offers paid support <$250 is there a Linux-Networking channel someone can refer me to?  I tried google forever.  I am running out of places to go.
[00:06] <zykotick9> specialpurpose: there is a ##networking as well as ##linux channels
[00:07] <user01> i have a question . . . if i have a proxy at work that uses port 3001 let's say, and i have a server at home that i want to start a vnc session on, if i change the port setting to 3001 on the server would this allow me to open a vnc session from work?
[00:08] <iFlip> specialpurpose im late in this convo but have you setup the interface config file?
[00:08] <zykotick9> user01: #debian-offtopic didn't answer eh? ;)
[00:08] <user01> nope!
[00:08] <SonikkuAmerica> user01: So long as 3001 isn't used by the target machine I don't see how it wouldn't work...
[00:08] <SonikkuAmerica> to transmit
[00:08] <specialpurpose> iFlip: I was wondering how to do this from the command line but if you know how using the interfaces config file that is a good start
[00:09] <specialpurpose> iFlip: I was unable to have any success with it from either
[00:09] <iFlip> sudo vi etc/network/interfaces
[00:10] <user01> zykotick9, im using different distros, thought i would check!
[00:11] <specialpurpose> iFlip: I tried adding lines "auto eth0:2" and "iface eth0:2 inet dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces and had no success.
[00:12] <ivan__> hi
[00:12] <iFlip> gimme a sec
[00:12] <dydz_> heres my network controller info: http://pastebin.com/r9rAZXeU   -- my internet is going very very slow (tried speedtest.net)
[00:12] <nibbler> specialpurpose: did you get my solution? i was playing with my devices, so might have been actually disconnected while telling you how to do this
[00:12] <specialpurpose> nibbler: I did not.
 specialpurpose: just figured it out
 specialpurpose: first you create a virtual interface in bridge mode: 'ip link add link eth0 veth1 type bridge' - i believe this means its bound to eth0. certainly the name is veth1. then you add the eth0 to the just created bridge: 'brctl addif veth1 eth0'
 this results in two devices, both accessing the same media. i was able to dhclient both of them - they share one MAC, which is ok for a bridge...
 ...and in general: don't use ifconfig, and double-dont-use-it if you do heave networking stuff ;)
[00:13] <FloodBot1> nibbler: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13] <iFlip> it should look like this http://hpaste.org/82066
[00:14] <Mathnerd314> SonikkuAmerica: well, I should be able to at least play audio from the phone onto the computer, and that isn't working
[00:14] <iFlip> here's the full http://hpaste.org/82067
[00:15] <iFlip> then type: sudo ifdown --- then --- sudo ifup
[00:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Mathnerd314, yes, that should be a distinct possibility
[00:16] <dxm> xubuntu is amazing
[00:16] <nibbler> specialpurpose: tell me if it works...
[00:16] <specialpurpose> iFlip: your solution obtains a DHCP address for eth0.  I need a static IP address assigned to eth0.  I was attempting to obtain a dynamic IP address on eth0:N
[00:17] <specialpurpose> nibbler: attempting now -- if I am disconnected I will be back
[00:17] <iFlip> oh I thought you wanted dhcp
[00:18] <specialpurpose> iFlip: I want DHCP and static both using same physical device.
[00:18] <SonikkuAmerica> Mathnerd314, it should be able to connect manually as the computer being the audio sink... see if you can use blueman to send the audio to your computer speakers.
[00:22] <LVLAaron> I could really use some help getting my kernel fixed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/253244/reinstall-latest-kernel/253246#253246
[00:25] <histo> LVLAaron: Did the reinstall actually reinstall the packages?
[00:25] <LVLAaron> Yes.
[00:25] <histo> LVLAaron: Then reboot and select the new kernel it installed
[00:25] <LVLAaron> I did.
[00:26] <histo> LVLAaron: Then the problem is?
[00:26] <dr_willis> now dance a happy jig around the pc....
[00:26] <dr_willis> ;P
[00:26] <LVLAaron> histo, did you read thread?
[00:26] <LVLAaron> histo, it still tries to load the busted module and goes into panic
[00:27] <histo> LVLAaron: So the issue is the module not the kernel
[00:27] <LVLAaron> ok
[00:27] <LVLAaron> how do I get rid of it?
[00:27] <histo> LVLAaron: remove or blacklist the module your broke.
[00:27] <LVLAaron> how do I remove it?
[00:27] <histo> LVLAaron: Let me look at what you were doing
[00:27] <dr_willis> blacklisting it would be the better answer i belive
[00:28] <LVLAaron> https://github.com/facebook/flashcache/wiki/QuickStart-Recipe-for-Ubuntu-11.10
[00:28] <LVLAaron> Can I blacklist/remove it for kernel 3.5.0.23 while running on 3.5.0.17 ?
[00:30] <histo> LVLAaron: Did you see the part on removing flashcache from a voluem.
[00:30] <LVLAaron> yes
[00:31] <dr_willis> the blacklist configs will work for all the kernels.
[00:31] <dr_willis> !blacklist
[00:31] <histo> LVLAaron: blacklist flashcache
[00:31] <LVLAaron> If i wanted to remove it... where is it?
[00:31] <LVLAaron> should I blacklist and get booted on that kernel first?
[00:32] <Mini_anon> hello there
[00:32] <nevada-smith> hi all
[00:32] <LVLAaron> brb. going to try.
[00:33] <dr_willis> if you blacklist it.. it should thenbe blacklisted on all kernels
[00:33] <Mini_anon> i have two question
[00:33] <dapunkk> re
[00:34] <Mini_anon> the first is: how different are the admin privillege in ubuntu are from windows
[00:34] <Mini_anon> the second is gnome shell faster than unity
[00:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, the answer to your second question is: It all depends on your graphics.
[00:36] <whoever> need help killin' zombie , bluetooth won't die, tried kill, kill 9 no luck
[00:37] <Mini_anon> SonikkuAmerica: will I loose compatibility with the program i already have?
[00:37] <zykotick9> whoever: if it's really "zombie" you'll need to restart to clear it.  but it doesn't actually matter, i don't think.
[00:38] <LVLAaron> Here's the error: http://i.imgur.com/ii6JdhF.jpg
[00:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon: The... program? (Clarify please)
[00:39] <LVLAaron> My G is tainted.
[00:39] <LVLAaron> !blacklist
[00:39] <cadgu`a> Why does a fresh nginx install fail to serve anything on 80?
[00:40] <cadgu`a> I mean, apt-get purse nginx; apt-get install nginx; service nginx start; nothing on port 80
[00:40] <cadgu`a> s/purse/purge
[00:40] <cadgu`a> I can access it locally but not remotely
[00:41] <_DomY-Dom> Hi, I installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my Macbook Pro (8,1) following your tutorials and everything is fine apart from two things. The wireless connection works but browsing suddenly becomes really slow every now and then and I need to "Enable wireless" and disable it again; it's becoming really annoying and this isn't occuring with any other laptop & OS. Any idea what the problem is ? Secondly, the touchpad sensors are really messed up, it is far too sensitive, 
[00:42] <Mini_anon> another way to put it SonikkuAmerica is: will a change of environment from unity to gnome could hinder the work of some programs that I already have?
[00:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, no chance at all of that! Both are GNOME 3-based shells.
[00:43] <Mini_anon> yay!
[00:43] <LVLAaron> histo, any ideas?
[00:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, if you're just wanting the DE, just [ sudo apt-get install gnome-shell ].
[00:44] <Mini_anon> ok thanks
[00:44] <histo> LVLAaron: ideas forj? sorry I was away. I would black list the flashcache you where building when everything went south.
[00:44] <LVLAaron> I did. I get this: http://i.imgur.com/ii6JdhF.jpg
[00:44] <LVLAaron> can I remove /var/lib/dkms/flashcache ?
[00:45] <histo> LVLAaron: Well it's obviously not blacklisted
[00:45] <Mini_anon> by the way SonikkuAmerica : can you answer the first question like : how different are the admin privileges in ubuntu are from windows?
[00:45] <histo> LVLAaron: Also disable it for the volume if you set that up.
[00:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, it's kind of complicated how admin works in Windows.
[00:46] <_DomY-Dom> Hi, I installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my Macbook Pro (8,1) following your tutorials and everything is fine apart from two things. The wireless connection works but browsing suddenly becomes really slow every now and then and I need to "Enable wireless" and disable it again; it's becoming really annoying and this isn't occuring with any other laptop & OS. Any idea what the problem is ? Secondly, the touchpad sensors are really messed up, it is far too sensitive, 
[00:46] <LVLAaron> histo, i have "blacklist flashcache" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[00:47] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, I'd say the "User Account Control" in Windows (Vista+) is similar to [ gksudo ] in Ubuntu. But typically, in any Linux distro, you never want to login as root unless you know what you're doing. Same with booting in "safe mode" with Windows and selecting login as "Administrator."
[00:47] <Mini_anon> SonikkuAmerica:  from what i see, i did loose some of my privileges, as admin i cannot see the files of the other regular user, cannot see their weigth cannot delete them
[00:49] <Mini_anon> which i could do on windows
[00:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, just [ sudo ] or [ gksudo ] won't let you do that.
[00:49] <SonikkuAmerica> But pure [ su ] might.
[00:49] <Mini_anon> :D
[00:49] <histo> !sudo | Mini_anon
[00:49] <Mathnerd314> SonikkuAmerica: I've been trying things; but there's nothing there in blueman besides "connect to audio source"
[00:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, of course you'd have to do [ sudo passwd root ] before you used [ su ] or else it won't work at all.
[00:50] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: NO
[00:50] <histo> Mini_anon: dont' do that
[00:50] <amiu> are you sure the device supports bluttoth beyond audio streaming?
[00:50] <histo> Mini_anon: sudo -i   will give you a root console without passwd
[00:50] <SonikkuAmerica> I was just about to say NEVER DO THIS UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
[00:50] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: you can also sudo su   and that works without passwd root. Users shouldn't be enabling root account.
[00:51] <Mini_anon> and i don`t know what i will do XD
[00:51] <SonikkuAmerica> And by KNOW I mean... well... my explanation is so graphical it's NSFW.
[00:51] <histo> Mini_anon: What are you trying to accomplish?
[00:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Mathnerd314, I guess your phone just won't do that. It sounds weird, but I can't think of anything beyond that.
[00:53] <Mini_anon> i want to be able to see the file of the regular user while im on my admin user : be able to move them, delete them as i would in windows
[00:53] <LVLAaron> OK I can't do a blacklist because the module got built into the image, maybe....
[00:53] <dr_willis> Mini_anon:   unless they are in an encrypted home, you should be able to get to their stuff with a root shell.
[00:53] <Mini_anon> that what i want: histo  SonikkuAmerica
[00:53] <Mathnerd314> SonikkuAmerica: I'll also note that various programs (e.g. "gvfsd-obexftp") have been crashing randomly while I've been doing this, so it's probably not a well-tested area :p
[00:54] <dr_willis> bluetooth - has such potential.. and been so - well.. under whelming over the years
[00:54] <histo> Mini_anon: You can give yourself permissions to their home
[00:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, does [ sudo -i ] or [ sudo su ] work?
[00:54] <CavalierPrime> Mini-anon you can use gksudo nautilus to do all that
[00:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, or, in histo's terms, use [ sudo chmod ] to mess with permission.
[00:55] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: either of those will give you a root shell
[00:55] <dr_willis> if the system is using an encrypted homes then root will only see the encrypted stuff. not the actual files.
[00:55] <SonikkuAmerica> histo: right.
[00:55] <histo> Mini_anon: I think gksu nautilus   would be the easiest way for you.
[00:55] <jrood> hi, i am sucessfully using flstuio, in wine, with mackie onyx blackjack interface as the driver, however, i can only output to the blackjack, i can't record in
[00:56] <jrood> *flstudio
[00:56] <histo> !appdb | jrood
[00:56] <dr_willis> jrood:  check the wine app database and the #winehq channel
[00:56] <histo> lol
[00:56] <jrood> thanks
[00:57] <histo> !manual | Mini_anon You also want to probably check this out.
[01:00] <Mini_anon> re
[01:00] <sirdotalus> is this the proper channel for tech support?
[01:01] <Mini_anon> excuse me i didn`t see your answer it`s raining at home so my connection is less stable
[01:02] <sirdotalus> is this the proper channel for tech support
[01:02] <histo> Mini_anon: use gksu nautilus
[01:02] <sirdotalus> i am having issues with my ubuntu 12.4 1368 lts system
[01:03] <histo> !manual | Mini_anon and read up on this.
[01:03] <rudedogg> Hi, I am trying to use "rm -rf directory", but it's still saying it can't delete it because it's not empty ...
[01:03] <sirdotalus> i have been receiving error reports related to my /lib file
[01:03] <histo> !destails | sirdotalus
[01:03] <rudedogg> is there a different command I can use to delete the directory?
[01:03] <histo> !details | sirdotalus
[01:03] <histo> rudedogg: remove the trailing slash if you have one.
[01:03] <kostkon> rudedogg, give us the exact message ytou are getting
[01:04] <rudedogg> histo: No trailing slash, just the folder name
[01:04] <rudedogg> kostkon: rm: cannot remove `bootstrap/.git/objects/pack': Directory not empty
[01:04] <bean> rudedogg, give us the full commandyou're running, too please.
[01:05] <rudedogg> rm -r bootstrap
[01:05] <Mini_anon> thank you SonikkuAmerica & histo
[01:05] <kostkon> rudedogg, -rf
[01:05] <rudedogg> yeah just tried that again too, no trailing slash.  Still no luck :(
[01:05] <wwf>  /join ##crawl
[01:05] <histo> rudedogg: you need to use -rf
[01:05] <wwf> \J ##crawl
[01:05] <bean> rudedogg, "rm -rf bootstrap" should work
[01:06] <sirdotalus> i am running ubuntu 12.4 i386 on a dell latitude 4000 laptop with a usb drive and floppy drive but nop cd, my hardwayre/software specs. 20g harddrive 1gig ram. now the issues have come from multiple programs but the most recent is when attempting to connect to irc with empathy i receive an internal error report haviong to do with my /lib folder
[01:06] <rudedogg> rm -rf bootstrap        rm: cannot remove `bootstrap/.git/objects/pack': Directory not empty
[01:06] <bean> assuming you're not in the directory.
[01:06] <ghargoil> noob question, but how can  I allow one user to read/access ALL of another user's files?
[01:06] <histo> rudedogg: what's the output of pwd
[01:06] <bean> ghargoil, that's usually a "bad idea" (tm)
[01:07] <histo> ghargoil: add the one user to the others group would work
[01:07] <rudedogg> got it, I had a code editor open, I think it was accessing the .git file buried in there :S
[01:07] <rudedogg> thanks guys
[01:07] <kostkon> rudedogg, interesting
[01:07] <histo> rudedogg: np
[01:07] <bean> that'd do it, it probably had a file locked
[01:07] <rudedogg> I thought the message would be file in use or something, so I didn't think it was still being accessed
[01:07] <Jpmh> rudedogg: do you have permission to kill everything in the dir and its subs?  what remains after you try and remove
[01:07] <rudedogg> ls -al shows it gone
[01:08] <bean> he got it figured out, Jpmh
[01:08] <sirdotalus> empathy says i have gone offline and then the error shows up im bringing up a report now for more details
[01:08] <rudedogg> I'm noob so I figured I was messing up the rm command, thanks again :)
[01:08] <histo> rudedogg: lsof would have showed you what was using it
[01:08] <ghargoil> histo: ok, trying/checking
[01:09] <rudedogg> histo: that's cool, thanks that'll save me next time
[01:10] <Malinuss> hello. So I installed ubunto using the "minimal ubuntu", after that I installed the network manager, and gnome. Still even after running the gnm, the window manager doesn't look like the standard ubuntu at all. How can that be?
[01:10] <histo> Malinuss: because ubuntu uses unity not gnome
[01:11] <Malinuss> histo, oh.. haha well that was a bummer.. facepalm
[01:11] <Malinuss> thanks
[01:11] <xangua> Malinuss: because you need to install ubuntu-desktop to get...well the whole and default ubuntu desktop
[01:11] <KrisB> Followed instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager to make Thunar to be the default file manager. After executing ./defaultthunar cp: cannot stat `nonautilusplease/nautilus-browser.desktop': No such file or directory.
[01:11] <Malinuss> xangua, yep I get it now, for some reason I was just sure ubuntu used gnome as the standard window manager, thanks..
[01:12] <histo> Malinuss: You don't need to use the ubuntu-desktop meta package if you are trying to stay lean
[01:12] <xangua> Malinuss: ubuntu uses gnome indeed, but with unity as shell
[01:13] <histo> !unity | Malinuss
[01:13] <histo> Malinuss: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package that pulls all the other default apps. What exactly are you trying to accomplish.
[01:14] <Malinuss> well now I got confused. Sorry I'm very new to linux. I want a lean installation of ubuntu, that "looks" like the orginal ubuntu, just without all the extra software, histo
[01:14] <histo> Malinuss: Then install unity
[01:15] <Malinuss> just "install unity". so the unity-desktop would install the whole package?
[01:15] <histo> Malinuss: unity-desktop is probably another meta package. There is a unity package.
[01:15] <histo> Malinuss: I've never tried to do what you are trying to accomplish.
[01:15] <histo> Malinuss: If I wanted lean I'd avoid unity in the first place.
[01:16] <DeadWeasel> is there a way to change the pcspkr default to play a wav or mp3 instead?  like, catch the event and then trigger another?
[01:16] <DeadWeasel> trying to get system beep to play another sound in 12.04
[01:16] <Malinuss> histo, well I still want a nice and slick window manager
[01:16] <DeadWeasel> was a pain to even get the system beep back after their changes!
[01:17] <KrisB> Malinuss: Install Cinnamon. :)
[01:17] <Malinuss> KrisB, I definetly look it up, thanks
[01:17] <Tex_Nick> Malinuss:  i haven't been following your thread ... but if you want to use a ubuntu 12.xx with an older look ... have you tried using the gnome classic de ?
[01:17] <KxTwo> Anyone familiar with computer oganiation and design 4th edition?
[01:18] <Malinuss> Tex_Nick, I actually wanted ubuntu, with the new look. I just installed the mini-version, and want the "orginal" look.
[01:18] <sirdotalus> is there any way to bring my system back to the point where i originally installed ubuntu. bring it back to the day i replaced windows(thank god) and my system was fresh and entirely unmodified. preferably without having to download and reinstall the whole operating system again
[01:19] <Tex_Nick> Malinuss:  oh sorry ... so you want unity :)
[01:20] <Malinuss> Tex_Nick, yeah I just got it all confused and installed gnome instead
[01:20] <DeadWeasel> how to catch the system beep event (same one trigger by '\a') and play a wav or ogg file instead?
[01:20] <DeadWeasel> trying to get IRSSI to send a nice sound instead of system beep on notify event
[01:21] <DeadWeasel> ubuntu 12.04 x54
[01:21] <DeadWeasel> 64
[01:21] <SonikkuAmerica> *x64
[01:21] <DeadWeasel> i ahve stpuid fingers, shoveling snow all day :/
[01:21] <BlueNeXuS> hello all
[01:21] <Mini_anon> can i configure ubuntu in this way: to launch a search via the windows lens you must input the password
[01:21] <sirdotalus> malinuss...i have unity installed
[01:21] <BlueNeXuS> can anyone help me with Docky in Ubuntu?
[01:21] <BlueNeXuS> please
[01:22] <SonikkuAmerica> BlueNeXuS, you'll need to be more clear about your problem./
[01:22] <sirdotalus> anyway, i want to bring my ubuntu ack to ground zero is there any way to do that without having to download and re install the whole OS
[01:23] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  what all did you do to it? ;)
[01:23] <BlueNeXuS> I just started using docky instead of the other options..  so i am new to it.. but anyhow..   i just want to change some of dockys icons for the apps in it.. and i went through dockys settings but theres nothing there..  how do i change icons in docky  to make a long story short
[01:23] <dr_willis> Given how you could hae done all sorts of wonkyness to a  system.. theres no guaranteed way sirdotalus ... it just depends.
[01:23] <Tex_Nick> Malinuss:  histo made a GOOD point ...unity and lean are kinda conflicting terms :-)
[01:24] <xangua> BlueNeXuS: change your icon them, then docky will use them
[01:24] <Terabyte> hi, when I try to run wubi from windows 7, it doesn't run (the security dialog pops up as expected) but the process starts, and then promptly dies, with no visual cues, just task manager showing wubi.exe and then not showing it.
[01:24] <Malinuss> Tex_Nick, I'm open to sugestion for others, nice looking, and easy to use, windows managers :)
[01:24] <dr_willis> Malinuss:  lubuntu
[01:24] <sirdotalus> didnt do much downloaded a few games from the software centre has some problems installing nethack (the game not a real hack) so i removed nethack, been having internal errors ever since. i havent had this computer but a couple weeks and ubuntu about that long(on this sytem)
[01:24] <pr1nt> _
[01:25] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  use the terminal. see what sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get upgrade say about the systems package manager status
[01:25] <BlueNeXuS> okay, thank you zangua.. simple enough
[01:26] <Tex_Nick> Malinuss:  what hardware platform are you using ... if your system is fast enough ... use unity ... otherwise people here can help you downscale to your needs
[01:26] <sirdotalus> ive run full updates and i still get the errors. i believe they lie within a missing package within /lib but i dont know which is missing/malfuntioning
[01:27] <Malinuss> Tex_Nick, well it's running on the acer aspire d255, but I want a as fast as possible experience. So it *can* run with the full ubuntu package, I just want something more lightweight
[01:27] <Terabyte> is there any proper support for wubi?
[01:28] <Terabyte> plenty of google results for my problem. no proper solutions
[01:28] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  pastebin the exact error messages..
[01:28] <histo> Malinuss: I think you want a DE not a window manager
[01:28] <Malinuss> "DE"?
[01:28] <histo> Malinuss: Desktop environment
[01:28] <sirdotalus> dr willis. i was attempting to fix this issue earlier tonight using
[01:28] <dr_willis> a window manager is  the foundation of your desktop. ;)
[01:28] <sirdotalus> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[01:28] <histo> Malinuss: Window managers just handle decorations and the way windows are drawn and where.
[01:28] <war59312> why no usb mouse work.. ugh! drving me insane
[01:28] <sirdotalus> and it refuses to even download or install the boot repair packages
[01:29] <Malinuss> histo, and the DE?
[01:29] <sirdotalus> so i cant even get those packages installed
[01:29] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  do one command at a time.. look for error messages..  you missed a && in there also
[01:29] <histo> Malinuss: Check out xfce or lxde.  If you want even lighter you can run just straight openbox or lookat tiling window managers that can hold up on their onw.
[01:30] <Tex_Nick> Malinuss:  i don't keep up with lappys much ... what cpu does that use & @ what speed ... how much memory
[01:30] <sirdotalus> ih/o let me run them again to regain the errors
[01:30] <Malinuss> histo, wait, so I don't even need a window manager?
[01:30] <amiu> the machine doesnt. do you?
[01:30] <histo> Malinuss: right you can run just X if you really wanted to.
[01:31] <histo> Malinuss: Google xubuntu or lubuntu   xubuntu uses xfce lubuntu uses lxde. You can get an idea of what they look like.
[01:31] <dr_willis> you want to use a window manager.. :) the Lightest Full featured desktop will be Lubuntu which uses LXDE
[01:31] <Malinuss> histo, could you pleas take another minute to explain the difference between a window manager, and a desktop enviroment?
[01:32] <histo> Malinuss: dr_willis is correct. If want even leaner than that you would go with X and awesome or openbox.
[01:32] <Malinuss> I still don't get the difference
[01:32] <dr_willis> Malinuss:  window manager = Foundation of the house
[01:32] <dr_willis> house = the desktop
[01:32] <iorweth> You can install the other desktops environments from the software manager.
[01:32] <melty> lol
[01:32] <histo> Malinuss: for instance I can run gnome with openbox or awesome as my window manager.
[01:32] <KxTwo> hmm anyone know of a channel that might be able to offer me insight on computer organization and design
[01:33] <dr_willis> http://xwinman.org/  guide to window managers and desktop environments for The X Window System,
[01:33] <dr_willis> KxTwo:  thats 2 rather vague buzzwords... ;)
[01:33] <Malinuss> Tex_Nick, 1GB ram, and dual core 1.66Ghz
[01:33] <sirdotalus> ready for this dr willis?
[01:33] <sirdotalus> i just received this errpr
[01:33] <sirdotalus> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[01:33] <histo> Malinuss: You are asking for something that looks like ubuntu.... Well uubntu uses gnome with unity as the shell.  But then you want lighter. unity is not very light because it uses a lot of compiz stuff.
[01:34] <dr_willis> !pastebin | sirdotalus
[01:34] <sirdotalus> damn it didnt copy it right
[01:34] <sirdotalus> my bad
[01:34] <KxTwo> dr_willis, I am specifically working on performance, execution time, CPI, instruction count, etc etc.
[01:34] <dr_willis> KxTwo:  for Hardware info - theres #hardware
[01:34] <histo> Malinuss: For your specs I think you would be more than happy with xubuntu
[01:34] <KxTwo> not sure hardware would take care of it
[01:34] <histo> Malinuss: if you don't want all the othe bloat that xubuntu-desktop brings in then just install xfce
[01:34] <KxTwo> spec benchmarks
[01:35] <sirdotalus> event not found
[01:35] <Malinuss> histo, I see, howcome I could first install gnome then, and use that, and now I installed unity, and well unity? okay, then xfce it is
[01:35] <dr_willis> !pastebin | sirdotalus  READ what the bot is saying
[01:35] <histo> Malinuss: The beauty of linux and opensource is that if you dont' like it you can always change.
[01:35] <sirdotalus>  File "/usr/bin/add-apt-repository", line 125, in <module>     ppa_info = get_ppa_info_from_lp(user, ppa_name)   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/softwareproperties/ppa.py", line 84, in get_ppa_info_from_lp     curl.perform() pycurl.error: (35, 'gnutls_handshake() failed: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.')
[01:35] <Tex_Nick> Malinuss:  do you intend to run speed critical applications ... cpu intensive stuff ?
[01:35] <histo> Malinuss: xfce is a desktop environment like gnome
[01:36] <Tex_Nick> Malinuss:  or cpu intensive games ?
[01:36] <Malinuss> histo, what is the window manager then? (just tryign to understand this)
[01:36] <dr_willis> Malinuss:  the foundaton the rest of the desktop uses...
[01:36] <Malinuss> Tex_Nick, now, but I just want as fast multi-tasking (normally, browsing+music+notes+video)
[01:36] <dr_willis> the wm draws the windows borders... and a few other things
[01:36] <histo> Malinuss: Please check this out http://xwinman.org/
[01:36] <sirdotalus> !pastebin says event not found but i know its happening because the GUI popups are ridiculous
[01:37] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  ! commands are channel BOT TRIGGERS.. not commands you type
[01:37] <histo> Malinuss: read the introduction on that page
[01:38] <sirdotalus> then i dont understand what action youy are asking me to take
[01:38] <dr_willis> Malinuss:  its trivial to have a dozen+ window managers and desktops
[01:38] <histo> Malinuss: Keep in mind that page has some really old screenshots but you will get the basic idea
[01:38] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  paste any error messages and logs to the pastebin sites.. do NOT flood the channel with 10+ line log/error messages
[01:40] <Tex_Nick> Malinuss:  looks to me like what you want to run just won't require that much computing power ... you might just install unity ... it's the latest eye-candy ...try it for a few days ... if it seems slow the downscale :-)
[01:40] <apokalypse> why doesn't unity sort your apps by category?  then it might be useful
[01:40] <dr_willis> thers catatory listings in the dash i recalll....
[01:40] <alcb> At 0:27 in this video (12.04) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGMZkC6Y5fE), he does a something to scale just the one application that has focus.  Is that a separate compiz plugin than stock?
[01:41] <Malinuss> okay, so normally, a window manager is the program that displays all the windows, how they look etc... And a desktop environment is like this whole package, that includes a window manager, but also has a lot of other things (standard programs, browser etc.).. Right?
[01:41] <sirdotalus> you could have simply said that in the first place instead of saying pastebins three times in a row undefined
[01:41] <musafir2> hi, I am currently on gnome and I wanted to install kde, will I get the last 4.10 kde ? im running the last version of ubuntu ?
[01:41] <xangua> alcb: the Scale plugin scales windows :)
[01:41] <histo> Malinuss: basically yes
[01:41] <histo> !info kde | musafir2
[01:42] <xangua> !latest | musafir2
[01:42] <xangua> musafir2: most likely no
[01:42] <dr_willis> musafir2:  theres some new ppas for the latest kde
[01:42] <iorweth> Have anyonet tried out ubuntu on nexus 7?
[01:42] <xangua> not the latest kde if that is what you ask musafir2
[01:42] <histo> !phone | iorweth
[01:42] <dr_willis> ubottu   | sirdotalus: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com |
[01:42] <dr_willis> seems sort of clear to me.. but whatever..
[01:42] <fbdystang> Hey guys, flash plugin for ubuntu does not seem to be working. Running quantal. Please help
[01:42] <musafir2> aha thanks yes I found the back repo but I was thinking if there is any official, thanks a lot guys
[01:42] <xangua> !doesntwork | fbdystang
[01:43] <sirdotalus> already pasted to the paste bin, now may i ask if you have a clue whats happening?
[01:43] <dr_willis> musafir2:  the webupd8 or omgubuntu site just had a posting on how to get the latest kde. and mentioned some potential issues
[01:43] <fbdystang> ouch. It ran fine until latest update. Now I get a blank screen here: http://www.break.com/index/the-most-brutal-soccer-foul-you-ll-ever-see-2413076
[01:43] <Malinuss> histo, thanks for the help
[01:43] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  and did you tell us the URL of the paste?
[01:44] <Tex_Nick> apokalypse:  in unity "dash home" click on the lens's at the bottom
[01:45] <alcb> xangua: makes sense, thanks :)
[01:46] <sirdotalus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631521/
[01:46] <ahmedipa> problem with ubuntu one
[01:46] <ahmedipa> problem : I cant install ubuntu one
[01:47] <sirdotalus> i apologize if i am being difficult tonight i am just in a furious mood already and then all this error BS started and i cant even copy the damned crash report to show you that
[01:47] <ahmedipa> it give me this   package have unmet dependencies
[01:47] <dr_willis> musafir2:  getting ready to test out the latest kde now.. gotta reboot to get some updates in.. will  be back with it in about 10 min --> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/upgrade-to-kde-sc-410-in-kubuntu-1210.html
[01:47] <dr_willis> back in 10.. gota to reboots.
[01:47] <Malinuss> one question about the unity/gnome. So right now, even though it looks like the orginal ubuntu, I don't have any of the icons on the left sides, how would I add those ?
[01:48] <xangua> Malinuss: did you install ubuntu-desktop ¿
[01:48] <ahmedipa> how can I solve this problem ?
[01:48] <Malinuss> xangua, yeah
[01:48] <Malinuss> xangua, no wait, no... just unity-desktop. I think
[01:49] <xangua> there is no 'unity-desktop' package
[01:49] <ahmedipa> why ubuntu not stable
[01:49] <ahmedipa> ??
[01:50] <histo> why ask queston not make sense
[01:50] <histo> ??
[01:50] <Malinuss> eh I don't remember, sorry xangua
[01:50] <ahmedipa> although ubuntu not stable , I love it
[01:51] <ahmedipa> I can not install ubuntu one
[01:51] <Tex_Nick> Malinuss:  idon't want to confuse your issue, but the term "original ubuntu" original ubuntu goes back many years ;-)
[01:51] <xangua> Malinuss: if you can get to install a desktop from the minimal iso, i suggest you to download and install the normal dektop iso
[01:52] <Malinuss> Tex_Nick, yeah I know. What I mean by "orginal ubuntu", is how the desktop looks when you install the normal desktop
[01:52] <xangua> ahmedipa: still no make sence, ubuntu one comes preinstalled in ubuntu and neither you provide an error output
[01:52] <Malinuss> xangua, yeah I should propably do that, I just kinda wanted to play around and see for myself if I could get the same looks, but without anything extra
[01:53] <ahmedipa>  xangua: I want to upload image problem what is best link to upload
[01:54] <ahmedipa> xangua: I am sorry for that
[01:54] <ahmedipa> xangua I know it comes but I do not know why this problem
[01:55] <fbdystang> Could someone coach me on how to get flash working after latest update?
[01:55] <KxTwo> ok well #hardware was useless and had a giant douchebag in it
[01:59] <fbdystang> No love at all?
[02:00] <dr_willis> say bump about 10 times... ;P that gets lots of love..
[02:00] <dr_willis> or hate.. i get the 2 backwards..
[02:00] <ahmedipa> I have small question
[02:00] <sirdotalus> welcome back dr willis
[02:01] <sirdotalus> so anyway
[02:01] <sirdotalus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631521/
[02:01] <sirdotalus> any ideas?
[02:01] <ahmedipa> is update necessary  for ubuntu ?
[02:01] <nibbler> fbdystang: update-alternatives --list mozilla-flashplugin
[02:02] <dr_willis> Yep. i get back.. now the wife is telling me to run to the store///
[02:02] <ahmedipa> because I am worry about no space disk after update
[02:02] <ahmedipa> what do you think
[02:02] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  seems to be a rather weird but in pycurl. or the server you are trying to get the update info from is having issues.. thats defintly not a normal error message
[02:02] <ahmedipa> anyone can give me feedback about what just I said
[02:02] <xangua> ahmedipa: if you want to install or not security updates is mostly up to you
[02:02] <dr_willis> ahmedipa:  do an apt-get auto-remove and apt-cache clean afterwards
[02:03] <dr_willis> this error seems ot be saying the update server.. is having issues with its TLS stuff.
[02:03] <dr_willis> pycurl.error: (35, 'gnutls_handshake() failed: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.')
[02:03] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  type flash into "software center" see if it's installed
[02:03] <runman75> hello
[02:03] <ahmedipa> xangua:  because I have problem with ubuntu one for files
[02:03] <sirdotalus> dr_willis my email is sirsotalus@gamil.com. my thunderbird works fine if your willing to take the challenge maybe you can come back and mail me about it?
[02:03] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/110672/add-apt-repository-returns-unexpected-length-error
[02:04] <ahmedipa> xangua: i surprise why give me problem
[02:04] <fbdystang> OK, checking
[02:04] <sirdotalus> sirdotalus@gmail.com
[02:04] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  see that askubuntu.com post
[02:04] <ahmedipa>  dr_willis: because ubuntu one give me problem
[02:04] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis ... everyone has honey-do's for you :)
[02:04] <ahmedipa>  dr_willis: may be if I update it will be solved
[02:04] <runman75> anyone familiar with the Ultravnc Repeater?
[02:04] <dr_willis> ahmedipa:  what problem? there is the #ubuntu-one channel also
[02:05] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: adobe flash plugin is installed as well as Gnash SWF viewer
[02:05] <dr_willis> ahmedipa:  if you are so tight on disk space you cant even update the system.. i have to wonder how you have enoiugh space to even do any real work
[02:05] <blag> I compiled my own bind, but apt/dpkg keeps trying to update it and failing. I have tried to pin it in Synaptic, but that is apparently not sticking. help?
[02:05] <sirdotalus> your popular maybe you should change your handle from dr willis to dr nick
[02:05] <dr_willis> dr_of_Love
[02:05] <dr_willis> ;)
[02:06] <sirdotalus> lawlz
[02:06] <Tex_Nick> lol
[02:06] <xangua> fbdystang: if you have more than one plugin for flash installed none will work
[02:06] <dr_willis> Better then Dr_of_Proctology
[02:06] <ahmedipa> dr_willis:  thank you for this channel
[02:06] <sirdotalus> yet again i apologize for the floods of text, i was bieng logical but irrational
[02:06] <BluesKaj> hopefully not Dr Strangelove :)
[02:06] <fbdystang> xangua: which one do I uninstall? From software center?
[02:06] <dr_willis> ahmedipa:  yep.. i dont have a life. ;)  sirdotalus  that askubuntu.com site seems to have work arounds for what seems tobe a known bug
[02:06] <sirdotalus> maybe dr of proctology love?
[02:07] <xangua> fbdystang: well if you want all flash features, remove gnash
[02:07] <dr_willis> Well i gotta head to the Store if we want foods tomorrow. bbl
[02:07] <ahmedipa> dr_willis:  even I don't update , one day I found no space disk
[02:07] <fbdystang> xangua: ok trying it
[02:07] <ahmedipa> dr_willis: any way thank you for help me
[02:07] <ahmedipa> dr_willis: I was glad to talk to you
[02:08] <sirdotalus> thank you for your help you have my email
[02:08] <BluesKaj> Had a great jam tonight ...best in a while, was very cool
[02:09] <sirdotalus> i would like to continue to converse with you so feel free to drop me a line. i am studying unix programming so i could use some more experienced users to chat with
[02:09] <xangua> give emal and await for replies from irc...that's how it works XD
[02:09] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis ... dr_of_proc ... is deep ờᴗớ
[02:09] <MonkeyDust>  BluesKaj i'm into the bluezzz, like jams etc
[02:09]  * intelikey tips hat @ dr_willis 
[02:09] <sirdotalus> enjoy your morning food dr of proctology strangelove
[02:09] <min|dvir|us> Hi, having trouble getting my script to start automatically on reboot. https://gist.github.com/dan-transparensee/a0d3ded0f2b655a1257d
[02:09] <min|dvir|us> *upstart
[02:10] <ahmedipa> I found #ubuntu best channel . It is more active than other
[02:10] <fbdystang> xangua: removed gnash but this movie still doesn't play. What am I doing wrong? http://www.break.com/index/the-most-brutal-soccer-foul-you-ll-ever-see-2413076
[02:10] <sirdotalus> its the core channel for everything ubuntu
[02:10] <fbdystang> do I need to restart?
[02:11] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, we play kinds of different stuff , blues is our base , but guys drop over so just go with whatever ppl come up with , including country and classic rock
[02:11] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  damn ocean between continents ;-)
[02:12] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  try logging out then back in
[02:12] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: OK brb
[02:12] <BluesKaj> looking for a decent easy open source recording app , audacity doesn't cut it , unfortunately
[02:14] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  can I pm you?
[02:14] <xangua> fbdystang: did you restart your browser¿ did you install any other plugin¿
[02:15] <heywood> i had passwordless ssh set up and working on my (remote) server. yesterday i did an apt-get dist-upgrade, after which i got a "reboot required". when the machine came back up, ssh now no longer works. any suggestions on how to troubleshoot?
[02:15] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: xangua: after logging out and back in I still get a black screen where the movie should be
[02:15] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, sure
[02:16] <fbdystang> xangua: I logged out then back in, which I assume restarts the browser right? I did not install any other plugin. the latest update made it break
[02:16] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  what type of video are you trying to play & from desktop or browser ?
[02:17] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: Firefox browser http://www.break.com/index/the-most-brutal-soccer-foul-you-ll-ever-see-2413076
[02:17] <KrisB> hey, i just changed /etc/ permissions with "chmod -R to 700"... by experimenting... sudo can't find sudoers now... how to fix it (one terminal window still runs as root...)
[02:18] <xangua> fbdystang: and what plugins are listed in tool-addons¿
[02:18] <fbdystang> xangua: let me check
[02:19] <xangua> KrisB: that sounds like a full reinstall needed :) good luck
[02:19] <fbdystang> xangua: There are 8. I will list them
[02:20] <magn3ts> I'm in choice hell. I like KWin, I don't like Plasma. I like Qt but I don't like the KDE services. I like Oxygen but I don't like the fact the kio is nowhere near as good as gvfs
[02:20] <min|dvir|us> Why is my upstart script not running on reboot? https://gist.github.com/dan-transparensee/a0d3ded0f2b655a1257d
[02:20] <magn3ts> Can't we have a standard set of subsystems that gnome/kde/razor/cinnamon layer on top of that are more loosely coupled? :(
[02:21] <fbdystang> xangua: Divx web player, google talk, google talk accelerator, iced-tea web plugin, itunes application director, quicktime, vlc, windows media player
[02:21] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  ok that vid played on my firefox ... it took about 45 seconds to load though
[02:21] <xangua> fbdystang: so you don't have adobe flashplayer installed now¿
[02:22] <fbdystang> xangua: it shows as installed in software center, but doesn't appear in firefox addons
[02:22] <fbdystang> Is it supposed to?
[02:22] <unheeding> fbdystang: wait is this firefox on wine?
[02:22] <dONALD> Hi people!
[02:22] <fbdystang> unheeding: no
[02:22] <KrisB> xangua: I just run chmod -R a+rx /etc/sudoers.d; chmod -R u+w /etc/sudoers.d; 0440 /etc/sudoers.d/README; not sudoers permission is fixed. what is the default /etc/ permissions?
[02:22] <unheeding> windows media player?
[02:23] <dONALD> I'm using xubuntu. Is there a command to reconnect my net after a brake?
[02:23] <fbdystang> unheeding: it has that plugin, not sure why
[02:23] <spacecase>  I'm having trouble with my BCM4331 card getting dropped from the network, can anyone help?
[02:24] <ahmedipa> question
[02:24] <ahmedipa> how can I upload image in this chat
[02:24] <friedg> dhcpcd should ask the hcp server for another ip
[02:24] <friedg> dhcp server
[02:24] <fbdystang> xangua: is it supposed to be installed in both places? Tex_Nick?
[02:25] <ahmedipa> is there particular upload image or any site I can use
[02:26] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: what firefox version are you running? And what plugins do you have installed?
[02:26] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  i'm confused as to why you would have windows media player as a plug-in
[02:27] <ahmedipa> sorry for asking too much questions
[02:27] <Tex_Nick> you are running ubuntu, right ?
[02:27] <nyRednek> my sound quit working after i was forced to wipe my home dir
[02:27] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: do I need to remove it? I assumed it shipped with it
[02:27] <nyRednek> anyone know how to get it working again?
[02:27] <BluesKaj> Tex_Nick, no just windows media codec, probly file extension called wma plugin
[02:28] <xangua> fbdystang: on both¿ ubuntu does not shipt with adoble flashplugin
[02:28] <unheeding> nyRednek: what does system settings -> sound   show?
[02:28] <nibbler__> fbdystang: what is update-alternatives telling you now? just paste the output of the line i gave you before
[02:29] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  ok in firefox plugins search ... type flash and install it
[02:29] <dONALD> I'm searching for something like an auto-, or manual "reconnect" command.
[02:29] <nyRednek> undert, i'm on xfce, don't have that particular option
[02:29] <fbdystang> nibbler__ can you repost the command, I can't scroll up
[02:29] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: ok in process
[02:30] <nibbler__> fbdystang: update-alternatives --list mozilla-flashplugin
[02:30] <unheeding> nyRednek: does a "ps aux | grep pulseaudio
[02:30] <dONALD> I can do it manually through the indicator in the tray
[02:30] <Tex_Nick> BluesKaj:  ok thanks ... had  my head spinng for a second ;)
[02:30] <unheeding> in terminal show pulseaudio running?
[02:30] <fbdystang> xangua: do you mean that it should be installed on both! or both? as a question?
[02:31] <nibbler_> re
[02:32] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: There are 8 "flash"es that come up. none say adobe. what gives?
[02:32] <nyRednek> unheeding, it appears to be running
[02:33] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  do you see shockwave flash
[02:33] <fbdystang> update-alternatives: warning: alternative /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so (part of link group mozilla-flashplugin) doesn't exist. Removing from list of alternatives.
[02:33] <fbdystang> nibbler: ^
[02:33] <nibbler_> fbdystang: ok, you need to set it to the flash plugin, thats why its not working.. let me figure the command, one second
[02:33] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: nope
[02:34] <nyRednek> unheeding, and if i try start-pulseaudio-x11, i get connection refused
[02:34] <DeadWeasel> nyRednek: add sudo before that?
[02:34] <fbdystang> nibbler__ OK
[02:34] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  i think nibbler_ is going in the right direction
[02:34] <unheeding> nyRednek: hmm, you should just be able to type "pulseaudio" and it should start
[02:35] <nyRednek> unheeding, it seems to be running, btw, but it isn't allowing a volume manager to do anything
[02:35] <nyRednek> unheeding, going to try to kill it and see if the restart helps
[02:35] <nibbler_> fbdystang: update-alternatives --config mozilla-flashplugin
[02:36] <fbdystang> nibbler: in process
[02:36] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  looks like it will be in firefox preferences/applications
[02:36] <nyRednek> unheeding, and it appears to have worked
[02:36] <fbdystang> update-alternatives: warning: alternative /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so (part of link group mozilla-flashplugin) doesn't exist. Removing from list of alternatives.
[02:36] <fbdystang> update-alternatives: warning: /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin is dangling, it will be updated with best choice.
[02:36] <fbdystang> There is no program which provides mozilla-flashplugin.
[02:36] <fbdystang> Nothing to configure.
[02:36] <fbdystang> update-alternatives: error: unable to remove '/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so': Permission denied
[02:37] <fbdystang> nibbler_: ^
[02:37] <fbdystang> do I need sudo?
[02:38] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, sudo, yes
[02:38] <fbdystang> ok let me try again :)
[02:38] <xangua> nibbler_: didn't you mean adobe-flashplugin ¿
[02:39] <fbdystang> update-alternatives: warning: alternative /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so (part of link group mozilla-flashplugin) doesn't exist. Removing from list of alternatives.
[02:39] <fbdystang> update-alternatives: warning: /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin is dangling, it will be updated with best choice.
[02:39] <fbdystang> There is no program which provides mozilla-flashplugin.
[02:39] <fbdystang> Nothing to configure.
[02:39] <fbdystang> nibbler_: ^
[02:40] <nibbler_> fbdystang: you need to install the proprietary plugin
[02:40] <fbdystang> nibbler_: cool, how?
[02:40] <nibbler_> fbdystang: sorry, i just overflew the conversation before, thought you have it... one moment
[02:40] <nibbler_> fbdystang: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:41] <BluesKaj> fbdystang,, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:41] <fbdystang> which one? both?
[02:41] <nibbler_> fbdystang: the one i gave you will install the proprietary flash player. firefox restart required afterwards
[02:42] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:42] <BluesKaj> fbdystang,^
[02:42] <fbdystang> ok, let me try
[02:44] <fbdystang> nibbler_: install: missing destination file operand after `ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[02:44] <fbdystang> Try `install --help' for more information.
[02:45] <fbdystang> nibbler_: it says flashplugin is already newest version
[02:46] <fbdystang> Blueskaj: sorry I typed to wrong person above. but you can see the error I got
[02:46] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, open software center and enable the  canonical partners repository and 3rd party repos as well
[02:46] <fbdystang> BluesKaj: OK in process
[02:46] <nibbler_> fbdystang: dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-installer
[02:47] <nibbler_> fbdystang: BluesKaj is following another path, so go one first.. ;-)
[02:47] <fbdystang> BluesKaj: all repositories were enabled (checked)
[02:48] <BluesKaj> nibbler_, jusat making sure the repos that contain the packages he needs are available
[02:48] <fbdystang> nibbler_: in process
[02:48] <min|dvir|us> Hi, why is my upstart script not running on reboot? https://gist.github.com/dan-transparensee/a0d3ded0f2b655a1257d
[02:49] <fbdystang> nibbler_: OK I added sudo. it brough up a window in the terminal asking for the location of the .tar.gz file. Where is that?
[02:51] <LEYON> productsuk.    info cheap ultrabook
[02:52] <whoever> is there a file that can be edited to give my bluetoothe devices more meaningfull names that BH220
[02:53] <kevinch> hi all, i have 0 bytes free on my ubuntu server and even when i delete some files it still says 0B free in df.  Any ideas?  It's a 30gb boot drive and then I have a couple 2 TB drives mounted to various folders.  The boot drive is out of room
[02:53] <brokds> hi all. Need some help applying grub to my raid 1. i got my listed partions here. just need to know how to apply it. http://pastebin.com/tf2U4Y23
[02:53] <fbdystang> nibbler_: BluesKaj: did we hit a dead end?
[02:54] <kvv> Hi all, I installed an udpate in 12.04 and now I am not able to use unity3d.
[02:54] <kvv> the display just freezes seconds after I log in
[02:54] <kvv> It's not affecting unity 2d though.
[02:55] <kvv> I want to file a bug, but was just wondering if anyone else saw this.
[02:55] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, first of all , check /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[02:55] <fbdystang> BluesKaj: ok in process
[02:55] <whoever> kevinch: df -h /path/toDFOn
[02:56] <kevinch> whats DFOn?
[02:56] <kevinch> whoever
[02:56] <fbdystang> libjavaplugin.so                       libtotem-cone-plugin.so
[02:56] <fbdystang> libnpgoogletalk.so                     libtotem-gmp-plugin.so
[02:56] <fbdystang> libnpgtpo3dautoplugin.so               libtotem-mully-plugin.so
[02:56] <fbdystang> librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so  libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
[02:56] <FloodBot1> fbdystang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:56] <chadhs> test
[02:56] <fbdystang> BluesKaj: ^
[02:56] <whoever> kevinch: the director you want to check usage on
[02:56] <brokds> fbdystang, use pastebin
[02:56] <kevinch> oh okay
[02:56] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, you should have an flash alternative plughin
[02:57] <whoever> kevinch: ie: df -u /usrp
[02:57] <whoever> */usr
[02:57] <kevinch> ah okay
[02:57] <kevinch> thanks
[02:57] <kevinch> see it says size 30G
[02:57] <kevinch> used 28G
[02:57] <FloodBot1> kevinch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:57] <fbdystang> brokds: yea sorry man
[02:57] <kevinch> Avail 0
[02:57] <whoever> kevinch: what whee you using
[02:57] <fbdystang> BluesKaj: agreed, how do we get in on there?
[02:58] <kevinch> whoever http://pastebin.com/hH3g7JrZ - just using df -h /
[02:59] <whoever> kevinch: so you wern't using a directery earlier? or you were miss reading the output
[02:59] <KyeRussell> where the chats at
[02:59] <nibbler_> fbdystang: nah, its no dead end at all. from the beginning all you were missing is the proprietary flash plugin, and having it configured as default
[02:59] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, alt+f2 , type , or copy and paste this,  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[03:00] <kevinch> well everything keeps telling me 0 free
[03:00] <kevinch> so I'm assuming I'm out of space
[03:00] <nibbler_> fbdystang: i'm a bit confused that it wants a tar.gz from you now...
[03:00] <KyeRussell> yes hello xt0rt
[03:00] <xt0rt> greetings friend
[03:00] <whoever> kevinch: posible, what do you have on there
[03:00] <KyeRussell> do you enjoy these premium ubuntu chats
[03:00] <nibbler_> fbdystang: its just asking you where to find the tar.gz, if you leave this empty it will be downloaded, which is basically written there if you read closely :p
[03:01] <kevinch> not much at all really, all my media and backups are mounted on my external drives
[03:01] <xt0rt> I am having problems compiling the NetBeans binary actually.
[03:01] <KyeRussell> same man
[03:01] <brokds> !grub
[03:01] <whoever> kevinch: are you getting an I/O error when you try to run a commad
[03:01] <KyeRussell> im trying to compile hal.dll and it just aint working, i got the tarball and everything
[03:01] <xt0rt> I downloaded the binary but it will not compile.
[03:01] <fbdystang> nibbler_: yea that confuses me as well. I left it empty and it didnt do anything, just came back to the command prompt
[03:01] <kevinch> whoever no I'm not
[03:02] <fbdystang> nibbler_: maybe i need to login again and try?
[03:02] <xt0rt> people tell me you cant compile a binary but I say they are full of SHIT
[03:02] <nibbler_> fbdystang: nope...
[03:02] <KyeRussell> i can confirm this xt0rt they're just free software haters
[03:02] <xangua> !language | xt0rt
[03:02] <KyeRussell> dont listen to them
[03:02] <KyeRussell> hackers you'll be free
[03:02] <xt0rt> I JUST GOT FLAGGED FOR BEING A HACKER
[03:02] <KyeRussell> anthrax grenades
[03:03] <whoever> kevinch: run du on / and it will spit out files folders and there size
[03:03] <xt0rt> apparently the operators of this irc channel enjoy CENSORSHIP
[03:03] <kevinch> okay
[03:03] <KyeRussell> yes xt0rt its free as in beer, but also free as in north korea
[03:03] <KyeRussell> might as well redirect it to #pyongyang
[03:04] <xt0rt> ops: did you not know that the USA has a BLACK PRESIDENT
[03:04] <xt0rt> GET WITH THE PROGRAM
[03:04] <KyeRussell> im sorry, i thought this was america
[03:04] <fbdystang> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/1saGAdri
[03:04] <KyeRussell> anything is possible at zombocom
[03:04] <xt0rt> nothing but racist free speech haters in this chat
[03:04] <xangua> !ops | xt0rt KyeRussell
[03:04] <nibbler_> fbdystang: http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.261.orig.tar.gz <-- download this to /tmp, and point to this file when asked for it?
[03:05] <xt0rt> you all make me SICK
[03:05] <KyeRussell> highlight abuse
[03:05] <fbdystang> nibbler_: ok in process
[03:05] <xt0rt> WTF WAS THAT
[03:05] <BluesKaj> xt0rt, no just common courtesy
[03:05] <xt0rt> OH GOD MY CAPSLOCK KEY IS STUCK
[03:05] <xt0rt> WHAT DO I DO
[03:05] <KyeRussell> recompile xorg
[03:05] <kevinch> whoever: when I run du --max-depth=1 it gets part way through it but then it gets stuck on /root i think
[03:05] <kevinch> I'm running it on /
[03:05] <xt0rt> DAMN LINUX KEYBOARD
[03:06] <fbdystang> nibbler_: 404 not found
[03:06] <nibbler_> fbdystang: i just downloaded it....
[03:06] <Tex_Nick> xt0rt : turn your keyboard upsidedown and tap it on the desktop ... of your physicak desk that is :)
[03:06] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, if you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed then you should have the flash plugin installed , if not then I'm confused.
[03:07] <nibbler_> fbdystang: strange... well, as i just downloaded it, i'll dump it for you somewhere
[03:07] <nibbler_> fbdystang: http://drop.geekbox.info/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.261.orig.tar.gz
[03:07] <whoever> kevinch:  make that du -h  /direcory and that will give you a list of files and dirs ,
[03:07] <fbdystang> nibbler_: BluesKaj: I am as confused as both of you. I tried that link twice, different copy/paste. Maybe i need flash to download it :(
[03:08] <xt0rt> why was I removed from the polite conversation area
[03:08] <whoever> kepler: sudo du then
[03:08] <Flannel> xt0rt: Save us both time and kindly stop, thanks.
[03:08] <fbdystang> nibbler_: ok downloading
[03:08] <xt0rt> what did I do btw I fixed my keyboard
[03:09] <Platz> Do i need to modify the group of /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/uevent (currently root) so it's accessible from my status bar? (using i3status in i3wm)
[03:09]  * whoever bitch smacks xt0rt for suck a juvinial trool attemp 
[03:09] <xt0rt> Platz: yes
[03:09] <Flannel> whoever: seriously?
[03:10] <KyeRussell> that's bad language whoever
[03:10] <KyeRussell> !language | whoever
[03:10] <BluesKaj> home, ,mdon't feed the trolls
[03:10] <Platz> i'll try that
[03:10] <KyeRussell> ill report you to RMS
[03:10] <BluesKaj> whoever, ^
[03:10] <whoever> Flannel: i couldn't resist "my caps are stuck on what do i do ", and  I hope that was retorical
[03:11] <xt0rt> !language | Flannel
[03:11] <xt0rt> http://youtu.be/vSUW-Z_Cnc0
[03:11] <whoever> ubottu: sorry didn't realize the lang rules here
[03:11] <nyRednek> ok, it has worked
[03:11] <xt0rt> !language | whoever
[03:12] <xt0rt> ty
[03:12] <whoever> ubottu: thaught you whre but also am sure someone is controlling u
[03:12] <xt0rt> family chats up in here
[03:12] <xt0rt> ok in leaving
[03:12] <xt0rt> ty for chats
[03:12] <Tex_Nick> xt0rt ... chill out ... you're going to get banned it you keep it up
[03:14] <nibbler_> fbdystang: is it working?
[03:15] <fbdystang> nibbler_: no, I must be typing the path wrong
[03:16] <kevinch> is /lib being 1.4gb normal??
[03:16] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, , just typing the path is only to check whether or not you have the flash plugin
[03:17] <fbdystang> nibbler_: BluesKaj: /home/theman/Downloads/ is what I keep trying but it won't take
[03:18] <Tex_Nick> nibbler_ & fbdystang : just a thought ... would it be easier to just reinstall firefox ... would probably need to backup bookmarks and maybe even cookies ... does firefox reinstall with flash ready to go
[03:18] <fbdystang> nibbler_: BluesKaj: this is the msg I get: http://pastebin.com/jda9LGm4
[03:18] <xangua> Tex_Nick: it does not and it will solve anything
[03:19] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, nm , we're at cross purposes here . I'll back off , didn't realize you were installing it manually
[03:20] <fbdystang> BluesKaj: Ok
[03:20] <BluesKaj> too many cooks
[03:20] <fbdystang> what is the path supposed to look like? do I need to remove one of the "/" ?
[03:21] <Tex_Nick> xangua : havent looked at the thread in a bit ... i know flash can be a devil ... just never had that much trouble with it though
[03:21] <whoever> kepler: depends what in there
[03:22] <whoever> kepler: my /lib is only 705M
[03:22] <fbdystang> /home/theman/Downloads/  is that right?
[03:23] <whoever> kevinsky: no depends what you got in there , mine is only 705M
[03:24] <aarobc> You know, I think that explaining the problem in detail is the best way to resolve a problem. I came here for some help mounting a windows share, was writing up my problems, when I realized there was another thing that I hadn't tried. Tried it, and it resolved the problem.
[03:25] <fbdystang> nibbler_: Maybe the the filename is different than what it is looking for?
[03:25] <fbdystang> different version of the file?
[03:28] <histo> fbdystang: What are you installing?
[03:28] <Wug> to whom do I report testdisk bugs? because I found one
[03:28] <fbdystang> histo: trying to get adobe flash plugin installed, but it won't take
[03:28] <histo> Wug: man testdisk at the bottom you may find the author.
[03:28] <histo> Wug: Or you can check out their site.
[03:29] <histo> fbdystang: Anyreason you are installing the flashplugin-installer package from the repos?
[03:29] <jab416171> I have an ubuntu server with 2 NTFS drives attached, plus the main drive. How can I share those drives with my Windows desktop? NFS? Samba? What's best?
[03:29] <histo> fbdystang: but basically you download the plugin un gzip it and place in your plugins directory.
[03:29] <fbdystang> histo: just following advice from people here
[03:29] <Wug> there's a scenario where a damaged filesystem can fool testdisk into an uninterruptible looping copy
[03:29] <histo> !best | jab416171
[03:30] <fbdystang> histo; ok let me try that
[03:30] <whoever> jab416171: samba
[03:30] <jab416171> histo: will both work with both a Windows client and NTFS drives?
[03:30] <jab416171> whoever: why?
[03:30] <whoever> jab416171: yes -
[03:30] <Gavilan3> My ubuntu is kind of frozen (the clock still works)
[03:30] <Gavilan3> what can I do?
[03:30] <histo> jab416171: Yes
[03:30] <histo> jab416171: the fact that the drives are ntfs doesn't matter.
[03:31] <whoever> jab416171: because samba is for sharing betwing LAN nodes and it will work by setting permissions
[03:31] <histo> Gavilan3: ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a tty and sudo restart lightdm
[03:32] <jab416171> are they both just as easy to set up on the Windows side? Just "Add a shared drive"?
[03:32] <histo> jab416171: What version of windows?
[03:32] <jab416171> 7
[03:32] <whoever> jab416171: if its your first time doing it, then no,
[03:32] <fbdystang> histo: I get a folder when extracting. do I put the entire folder in the plugin directory, or just one file?
[03:32] <Wug> im full of problems today aren't I
[03:33] <histo> fbdystang: What are you extracting?
[03:33] <whoever> jab416171: if you need help with setting up samba you should go to #samba
[03:33] <jab416171> whoever: then which one is easier on the windows side?
[03:33] <Gavilan3> histo: I went there and it says: SYSTEM RESTART REQUIRED... what does that mean?
[03:33] <histo> Wug: I remember you from yesterday, So I take it testdisk wasn't able to repair the partitoin table?
[03:33] <Gavilan3> why would it say that?
[03:33] <Wug> the next one is that for some reason, on ubuntu 12.04 with default settings, attempting to login crashes X, which brings me back to the login screen
[03:33] <histo> Gavilan3: You installed updates that won't be active until you restart
[03:33] <Wug> histo: its going, but its a slow process and I had to stop to sleep
[03:34] <histo> Gavilan3: After restarting lightdm it should take you back to a GUI if not ctrl+alt+F7 will take you there.
[03:34] <melty> lol
[03:34] <fbdystang> histo: drop.geekbox.info/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.261.orig.tar.gz
[03:34] <Gavilan3> how do I restart lightdm?
[03:34] <Wug> testdisk did hang due to aforementioned bug while copying files off, but they were in the recycling bin so I dont care
[03:34] <histo> Gavilan3: sudo restart lightdm
[03:34] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, the file looks something like libfashplayer.so , may not be exactly that but there should only be one  .so file
[03:34] <Wug> ill just skip that folder
[03:34] <whoever> jab416171: it depends what are you tring to atchieve , just share them to anyone that wants them without security or do you need security
[03:35] <Gavilan3> and what is this lightdm thing?
[03:35] <fbdystang> BluesKaj: found it, buried in the folders. do I replace my old one with it?
[03:35] <histo> jab416171: samba will just work on the windows side. NFS will work if you have nfs support enabled in windows, which most people don't by default so that would require some tinkering.
[03:35] <whoever> jab416171: and now that i thing about it even connecting to the shares if thery where on windows from ubuntu , though the gui, you are still using samba
[03:35] <User_San> Hello, i need help. I can't login on Ubuntu (except by Guest). Everytime i type the right password, lightdm restarts, not loggin in...
[03:35] <jab416171> ok thanks, that's what I was looking for
[03:35] <histo> Gavilan3: lightdm is the display manager that starts unity after you login etc..
[03:35] <User_San> Please, help
[03:36] <Wug> User_San: mine does the same thing
[03:36] <Gavilan3> ok
[03:36] <Gavilan3> thanks
[03:36] <Wug> I believe it to be graphics driver related
[03:36] <picaroo> User_San: do you know the root password?
[03:36] <histo> picaroo: there is no root password
[03:36] <User_San> picaroo: yes
[03:36] <Wug> I'm probably going to reinstall the entire graphics system when I get around to it
[03:36] <BluesKaj> which old one , fbdystang , i didn't see a flash...so file in any of your posts
[03:36] <histo> User_San: What were you doing when this happened?
[03:36] <User_San> picaroo: sudo
[03:36] <h00k> !root | picaroo
[03:36] <picaroo> User_San: log in as root, and try changing your password
[03:36] <histo> fbdystang: Again is there a reason you aren't using flash from the repos?
[03:37] <whoever> jab416171: go to #samba, and i'll walk/guide you
[03:37] <histo> fbdystang: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer  will install flash for you in the proper place
[03:37] <User_San> histo: i have no clue... i was just using it normally... so i turn it off... on the next turn on it got this error...
[03:37] <Gavilan3> histo: Thanks!
[03:37] <histo> picaroo: Please don't suggest people do that.
[03:37] <histo> picaroo: The root account is disabled by default in ubuntu and does not need to be enabled.
[03:37] <User_San> picaroo: i log in on tty1, not a password problem :)
[03:37] <Wug> the ubuntu way is the sudo way
[03:38] <histo> User_San: What were you doing when this happened?
[03:38] <User_San> histo: i have no clue... i was just using it normally... so i turn it off... on the next turn on it got this error...
[03:38] <Wug> User_San: did you install upgrades before you turned it off
[03:38] <Wug> (I'm pretty sure mine was triggered by upgrading to 12.04)
[03:38] <User_San> maybe
[03:39] <histo> User_San: So mostlikely there is an error with something in your users settings.
[03:39] <Wug> it worked before that, and suddenly didnt
[03:39] <BluesKaj> histo, the flash plugin shouid be installed with the restricted -extras , if he has it
[03:39] <Wug> I had to reinstall my graphics drivers, and they still dont seem quite right
[03:39] <User_San> Wug:  i am on 12.10... i didn't had this problem yesterday
[03:39] <histo> Wug: What type of graphics card?
[03:39] <Wug> User_San: did you upgrade to 12.10 a while ago and not restart?
[03:39] <Wug> histo: 7970
[03:39] <User_San> Wug:  histo , still, i may have upgraded
[03:39] <Wug> it worked fine last release
[03:39] <Wug> then i upgraded and it borked
[03:40] <User_San> Wug: no, it's an (old) fresh 12.10 install
[03:40] <Wug> it sort of works though, I can sudo startx from a tty and that gives me a root desktop environment
[03:40] <Wug> lightdm just silently fails to login though
[03:40] <histo> User_San: You'd most likely have to plug around in your ~ and look at what is running on startup for your user.
[03:40] <User_San> histo: as I said, i may have upgraded, but i just remember upgrading google-chrome
[03:41] <User_San> histo: how do i do that?
[03:41] <fbdystang> BluesKaj: histo: and all others. Manually putting that .so file into the the plugins directory worked!! I can now see that video :) Thanks y'all
[03:41] <User_San> histo: i mean, where is the file
[03:42] <histo> User_San: Let me poke around and see what I find it.
[03:42] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, glad to hear that :)
[03:42] <histo> fbdystang: That's all the other installers do that's what I was telling you. It's not a complicated process
[03:42] <User_San> histo: i tried to create a new user: it had the same problem
[03:43] <User_San> histo: the only thing that works is guest user
[03:43] <fbdystang> histo: right, i completely understand. the problem for the last 45 mins on this chat room was than NONE of the automated processes were working
[03:43] <fbdystang> and we tried a few
[03:43] <Wug> User_San: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[03:43] <histo> User_San: right because the guest user doesn't have the same config as you. You could create a new user and try to login to just to proove i'm right.
[03:44] <Wug> histo: he just mentioned that he tried that and was unsuccessful
[03:44] <picaroo> User_San: How do you know Lightdm is the problem?  Also, have you checked the lightdm log file for usefeul information?  It's probably located here: /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[03:44] <Wug> my graphics driver and my card apparently dont agree
[03:45] <fbdystang> Wug: I had the same problem yesterday with updates and fglrx
[03:45] <User_San> histo: i just said: i created a new user: same problem
[03:45] <histo> User_San: sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log | pastebinit
[03:45] <histo> User_San: after you try and login ofcourse
[03:45] <histo> User_San: Then give us the url
[03:47] <Wug> histo: I looked in my log and everything seems ok until it tried to execute the session (/usr/sbin/lightdm-session gnome-session --session=ubuntu) at which point the session seems to quit immediately
[03:47] <Wug> is there a log file for lightdm-session
[03:47] <Wug> the lightdm log doesn't seem to show anything unusual, except that the session lasts .01 seconds
[03:48] <histo> Wug: there are other logs in /var/log/lightdm
[03:48] <User_San> histo: 1631899
[03:49] <User_San> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631899
[03:49] <Wug> im running everything as root right now :|
[03:49] <Wug> including xchat and chromium :|
[03:51] <Wug> User_San: your problem and mine appear to be somewhat different
[03:51] <User_San> histo: after +18:32... i got one wrong password message
[03:51] <User_San> Wug: it seems so
[03:51] <histo> User_San: It appears that PAM is erroring
[03:52] <User_San> histo: what is PAM?
[03:52] <gueriLLaPunK>  im trying to open /root with "sudo cd /root" and it askes for my pw, when i enter it says "cd: command not found"
[03:53] <histo> User_San: Your user is failing to authenticate. Can you login as leonardo in tty?
[03:53] <User_San> histo: as i said
[03:53] <histo> k hold up
[03:53] <User_San> histo: i typed my password wrong onve
[03:53] <User_San> histo: look only after 18:32
[03:53] <marz> I installed Ubuntu 12.10, I created another logical partition for the root.and 1 for the swap area. After installation, my compputer boots in Windows automatically, it does not give me the option which OS to boot from
[03:53] <gueriLLaPunK> brb, gonna switch from SSH tunnel to my own connection!
[03:54] <loudaslife> I'm on Xubuntu 12.10, ubuntu software center only stays open for a second before closing. http://pastie.org/6107593 Any help?
[03:55] <gueriLLaPunK> ok im back.
[03:55] <User_San> histo, it seems (line 53) that after i authenthicate , greeter goes down
[03:55] <marz>  I installed Ubuntu 12.10, I created another logical partition for the root.and 1 for the swap area. After installation, my compputer boots in Windows
[03:56] <gueriLLaPunK> im trying to open /root with "sudo cd /root" and it askes for my pw, when i enter it says "cd: command not found"
[03:56] <histo> User_San: I'm reading through some bug reports now.
[03:56] <fbdystang> what is /root?
[03:56] <fbdystang> use cd ..
[03:57] <fbdystang> use "cd .."
[03:57] <marz> Help . . . I installed Ubuntu 12.10, I created another logical partition for the root.and 1 for the swap area. After installation, my compputer boots in Windows
[03:57] <Tex_Nick> how do i, as an example - from terminal do gksu gedit ... and have it not keep the terminal open ... seems like i sued to do that
[03:57] <User_San> histo: thanks, please look this one: 944784
[03:57] <marz>  I installed Ubuntu 12.10, I created another logical partition for the root.and 1 for the swap area. After installation, my compputer boots in Windows automatically. It does not give me the option to select what OS to boot
[03:58] <histo> User_San: try mv ~/.config
[03:58] <histo> User_San: Sorry try mv ~/.config ~/.config.bak    Then try to login
[03:58] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: sudo gedit &
[03:58] <User_San> histo: already tried,
[03:58] <User_San> histo:  also, tried a new user, and failed, remeber?
[03:59] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: then close terminal
[03:59] <histo> User_San: Okay can you pastebin your .xession-errors
[03:59] <loudaslife> Can anyone help with this software center error? http://pastie.org/6107593
[04:00] <histo> User_San: and pastebin your /etc/lightdm/ligthdm.conf also
[04:00] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  thanks man ;)
[04:00] <marz> Can anyone help me. I can't boot from my ubuntu OS. My computer automatically boots on Windows.
[04:00] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: np
[04:00] <User_San> histo: 1631937
[04:01] <histo> User_San: What?
[04:01] <User_San> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631937
[04:01] <Wug> marz: sounds like windows broke grub
[04:01] <Wug> it likes to pretend its the only one in the world
[04:02] <User_San> histo: we mey have found the error's source
[04:02] <fbdystang> you have to install windows first, then ubuntu. This allow ubuntu to add grub correctly
[04:02] <histo> User_San: Okay who owns .Xauthority ?
[04:02] <Wug> marz: take a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[04:02] <marz> thanks
[04:03] <User_San> histo: leonardo
[04:03] <histo> User_San: in your users home
[04:03] <Wug> follow the installation instructions for reinstalling grub on a broken system
[04:03] <histo> User_San: also why is it tryiing to load /root/.compiz/session......
[04:03] <loudaslife> Can anyone help with this ubuntu software center error? http://pastie.org/6107593
[04:03] <User_San> the .Xauthority belongs to the user...
[04:03] <melty> lol
[04:03] <User_San> histo: i don't know why
[04:04] <histo> that's bizare
[04:04] <User_San> histo: i don't know why is it tryiing to load /root/.compiz/session.
[04:05] <histo> User_San: What error were you talking about I got side tracked.
[04:05] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  hey great to see you got your flash working ... you had some good help on that one ... you had the patience to work through it also :)
[04:06] <User_San> histo: i think you are talking about this one  944784
[04:06] <histo> User_San: Have you restarted and you are still experiencing the problem?
[04:06] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: yea, I have been doing this for years but that threw me for a loop. I "used" to trust the auto package installers :( Anyway, just paying it forward now
[04:06] <User_San> histo:  several times
[04:06] <Wug> User_San: it would help us a lot if you added the rest of the pastebin link to those numbers
[04:07] <User_San> Wug: not a pastebin, an ubuntu error
[04:07] <histo> User_San: What is 944784?
[04:07] <User_San> histo an ubuntu error
[04:07] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  out of curosity ... did you ever determine why it would not install through the normal methods ?
[04:08] <histo> User_San: Please pastebin your /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[04:09] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: nope. but I would like to. mozillas plugin update checker mentioned that it needed to be updated. The problem I think is that I allowed all updating to happen automatically. Whatever got updated in the last few days broke a few things, this being one of them.
[04:10] <User_San> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631958
[04:10] <histo> User_San: Also rm .xsession-error  and try to login then post the updated version.
[04:12] <histo> User_San: Any luck with the updated .xsession-error ?
[04:12] <loudaslife> Can anyone interpret this ubuntu software center error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631963/
[04:13] <User_San> histo: no...
[04:14] <histo> User_San: no what?
[04:14] <User_San> histo:  i tried to delete the old, but after several not-logins i still don't got a new file
[04:15] <User_San> histo: (.xsession-error)
[04:15] <Wug> huh, thats creepy
[04:15] <jose106> I got several pictures with the wrong date. Is it possible to change the like a month backwards? I got about 150 pics
[04:15] <histo> User_San: Okay so it's not writing errors therre then. Those were old errors
[04:15] <User_San> humm
[04:16] <User_San> histo: so what now?
[04:16] <histo> User_San: Lets make a fresh lightdm.log and check
[04:16] <KrisB> Hello, how to use memdisk?
[04:17] <histo> User_San: sudo mv /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log.old && sudo touch /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[04:17] <Wug> KrisB: you mean the ramdisk boot kernel thing?
[04:18] <KrisB> Wug, Yea, I wanna additionally install another distribution of Linux.
[04:18] <Wug> linux16 /path/to/memdisk [newline] initrd16 path/to/image.iso
[04:18] <Wug> it doesn't work quite like you'd expect it to however
[04:18] <histo> Wug: What are you talking about?
[04:19] <User_San> histo: pretty strange: no new logs again
[04:19] <Wug> any kernel that thinks its on a CD will continue to think its on a CD and will attempt to open the CD device to read stuff
[04:19] <User_San> i will reboot,
[04:19] <Wug> since there is no CD device, this will fail
[04:19] <User_San> histo: ill be right back
[04:19] <histo> User_San: k
[04:19] <Wug> some simple utilities will work though, like memchk
[04:19] <Wug> memtest*
[04:20] <histo> KrisB: What are you trying to do?
[04:20] <Wug> I was unable to get past the splash screens for either the ubuntu 12.10 CD or the GParted CD
[04:20] <Free-Info> hi
[04:20] <histo> Wug: Doing what?
[04:20] <KrisB> histo: install Debian. I don't have CD-ROM, my motherboard doesnt support USB booting etiher.
[04:20] <Wug> histo: memdisk is a utility that loads an ISO image into ram and attempts to boot to it
[04:21] <histo> Wug: from within another os?
[04:21] <Wug> the lines I gave earlier were grub commands
[04:21] <Em_> Help, I can't fix grub. I followed the steps in this lin: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/how-to-recover-grub2-linux.html. But when I enter the command "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/  /dev/sda5" it gives me an error message. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631979/
[04:21] <Wug> no, its a kernel
[04:21] <histo> oh gotcha
[04:21] <Wug> i was playing with it last week so its fresh on my mind
[04:21] <Free-Info> help me please --- I've a done wrong use of "#mv" command. Example:
[04:21] <Free-Info> # Mv/home/USER/Downloads/piff.pdf /root/PDFs
[04:22] <Free-Info> then the directory "/root/PDFs" has been changed to a plain text file.
[04:22] <KrisB> Wug: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ which one is memdisk?
[04:22] <Free-Info> I can undo the command? I can retrieve the directory?
[04:22] <histo> Free-Info: mv /root/PDFs /root/piff.pdf
[04:23] <Wug> histo: I think he means there was a /root/PDFs folder there before
[04:23] <Free-Info> PDFs is a directory
[04:23] <Wug> KrisB: if you're using ubuntu you can sudo apt-get grub-imageboot
[04:24] <Wug> which includes memdisk (I think it puts it in /boot/memdisk)
[04:24] <Wug> Free-Info: is it really important
[04:24] <histo> ohh
[04:24] <histo> Free-Info: Wsa there anything in PDFs directory before?
[04:24] <KrisB> Wug: in that case, i only need to add the line for iso?
[04:25] <Wug> if its not, then you can probably just get the contents back by redownloading them or whatever
[04:25] <Free-Info> yes, i have importants doc in the PDFs directory
[04:25] <Wug> KrisB: there is a utility that grub-imageboot comes with that generates grub entries for isos in a certain folder
[04:25] <Free-Info> :)
[04:25] <Wug> /boot/images or something
[04:26] <histo> Free-Info: you had docuemtns in there prior to the move?
[04:26] <Wug> if you look in /etc/default/grub-imageboot.conf it has the directory and you can set it to wherever
[04:26] <Free-Info> SU
[04:26] <Free-Info> root sys
[04:26] <histo> ?
[04:26] <Wug> it has to be on the root partition, there's a bug if you put it on a different one (you should be able to fix said bug with a little bash expertise if you really want to)
[04:26] <histo> Free-Info: Did you have docuements in the /root/PDFs/ directory prior to your move?
[04:27] <Wug> histo: I think that was the implication, yeah
[04:27] <Free-Info> histo: yes
[04:27] <Wug> Free-Info: I know testdisk would be able to recover them
[04:27] <User_San> histo: i got no new errors on X.. i have a strong feeling the error is on unity-greeter
[04:27] <Wug> boy do I know testdisk well right now
[04:28] <Wug> not sure you should install it on the system since it might overwrite some of the data
[04:28] <histo> Free-Info: What is the problem? piff.pdf should be in /root/PDFs
[04:28] <Wug> Free-Info: do you have another operating system you can boot from
[04:29] <Wug> windows would be good, there is a windows version of testdisk
[04:29] <KrisB> Wug - I just installed grub-imageboot, and I do have the Debian .iso file. What should be the next step?
[04:29] <histo> User_San: Yeah do you have new errors in lightdm.log?
[04:29] <Free-Info> Wug: yes, a Debian in USB pendrive
[04:29] <Wug> KrisB: find the config file (which has the folder to stick the iso into), put it in there, and do sudo update-grub
[04:30] <Wug> Free-Info: ok, write these instructions down so you can reboot immediately
[04:30] <User_San> histo: yes some... but only when lightdm started, not on logins
[04:30] <Free-Info> histo: cd: /pentest/PDFs: not is a directory.
[04:31] <histo> Free-Info: okay now i'm confused you were saying /root/PDFs now you are syaying /pentest/PDFs which is it?
[04:31] <histo> Free-Info: and what command did you issue?
[04:32] <Free-Info> rsrsrs
[04:32] <User_San_> histo: wait a sec
[04:32] <User_San_> histo: i will send the logs
[04:32] <Wug> Free-Info: 1. boot into debian on the pendrive 2. install testdisk (its probably in a repository or on their website, ubuntu package is 'testdisk') 3. open testdisk as root with "testdisk <harddrive>" where <harddrive> is the device in /dev 4. analyze for partitions 5. pick whichever partition is the right one 6. Browse Files 7. copy the folder
[04:32] <histo> User_San_: I'm at a loss as to what's going on. I would post on askubuntu
[04:33] <KrisB> Wug - I didn't quite understand which config file to find.
[04:33] <Free-Info> # mv FILE.pdf /root/PDFs
[04:33] <Wug> KrisB: /etc/defaults/grub-imageboot.conf
[04:33] <blah> Hi everyone, I'm ssh'd into an ubuntu machine and I dont have vnc running on it yet. Is there a way to turn on the vncserver from the terminal?
[04:33] <histo> Free-Info: yeah that would put FILE.pdf in /root/PDFs directory
[04:33] <Free-Info> and now /root/PDFs not is a directory. is a plain text file
[04:33] <histo> Free-Info: assuming /root/PDFs existed before the move.
[04:34] <User_San_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631991 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631993
[04:34] <histo> Free-Info: What distro are you using?
[04:34] <Free-Info> ubuntu 13.04
[04:34] <Nach0z> wait, there's a 13?
[04:35] <histo> User_San_: I'm at a loss for any ideas
[04:35] <histo> Nach0z: it's development version
[04:35] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1
[04:35] <histo> Free-Info: if you mv somefile /to/some/path/that/exists   It will put somefile in that path
[04:35] <User_San_> histo: look, i have a strong feeling about unity-greeter
[04:35] <User_San_> histo: how do i get an older version from apt?
[04:35] <Wug> User_San_: you might try shotgun reinstalling huge swaths of packages until you eventually find one thats broken
[04:36] <histo> User_San_: sounds like a possiblity. You could install gdm and use that instead of lightdm
[04:36] <histo> User_San_: That's what i would od
[04:36] <histo> User_San_: Just to make sure it's lightdm that's the issue
[04:36] <Wug> I actually rather like recent unity
[04:36] <KrisB> Wug - okay,  there is the link "IMAGES="/boot/images"" should I put iso in this folder?
[04:36] <KrisB> the line*
[04:36] <Wug> KrisB: yeah, or change the folder to something else on the same device
[04:37] <histo> This channel has gotten so far offtopic
[04:37] <Wug> after the isos are there, run sudo update-grub
[04:38] <RustyShackleford> I installed ubuntu server with openbox. My fonts look odd
[04:38] <RustyShackleford> usually fonts look so good on ubuntu
[04:38] <RustyShackleford> what do I need to install/configure?
[04:38] <Free-Info> histo: histo: thanks
[04:38] <cfhowlett> RustyShackleford, log out.  select a different de and login  h
[04:39] <RustyShackleford> cfhowlett, for debugging, or because openbox sucks?
[04:39] <cfhowlett> RustyShackleford, debug
[04:39] <KrisB> Wug - the folder doesnt exist (image folder in /boot  doesnt exist) so it's safe to create it on my own?
[04:40] <Wug> yep
[04:40] <Wug> sudo mkdir /boot/images
[04:40] <histo> Free-Info: For?
[04:40] <histo> Free-Info: Did you solve your problem somehow?
[04:41] <Wug> for trying maybe?
[04:41] <RustyShackleford> cfhowlett, well it's in a VM
[04:41] <histo> !who | Wug
[04:41] <RustyShackleford> i'd prefer not to install another desktop
[04:41] <histo> RustyShackleford: did you install any other fonts?
[04:42] <histo> RustyShackleford: and can you possibly paste a screenshot so we can see what you are talking about.
[04:42] <histo> !paste | RustyShackleford
[04:43] <Wug> histo: I think you figured it out ok.  I do deal with people not used to IRC a lot, I know when dinging is necessary
[04:43] <RustyShackleford> I think I just need to apply some antialiasing/font rendering/whatever settings
[04:44] <Wug> ok so I have this idea
[04:44] <histo> Wug: What?
[04:45] <Wug> I'm going to author a setup that includes almost nothing but qemu and autoconfigs to pick an ISO from some folder somewhere, boot the ISO with qemu, and pass all storage devices to the VM
[04:46] <Wug> it will be almost as good as booting from any ISO without any extra hardware
[04:47] <RustyShackleford> http://i.imgur.com/dK1rUC0.png
[04:47] <RustyShackleford> I feel like it looks better in the picture than in my VM
[04:47] <RustyShackleford> don't the font's look kinda thin though. Look at the semicolons or m's
[04:48] <histo> RustyShackleford: thin compaired to what?
[04:48] <RustyShackleford> what ubuntu mono usually looks like
[04:48] <histo> RustyShackleford: What font are you using?
[04:48] <RustyShackleford> ubuntu mono 12
[04:48] <Wug> java likes to disregard local themes and arbitrarily be a dick and use its own
[04:49] <histo> RustyShackleford: use lxappareance to configure anitalising
[04:53] <blah> Hey guys, some help here? I'm ssh'ing into an ubuntu machine and I dont have vnc running on it yet. Is there a way to turn on the vncserver from the terminal?
[04:53] <RustyShackleford> histo, after hitting apply, no .gtkrc-2.0 file was written
[04:53] <RustyShackleford> where does it make changes?
[04:54] <jam3sm> is there a ubuntu rom for galaxy nexus available to test or do i have to wait till later
[04:54] <RustyShackleford> i was launched lxappearance from the terminal. As I clicked "Apply", This printed on the console "(lxappearance:2519): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_key_file_set_string: assertion `string != NULL' failed
[04:54] <RustyShackleford> "
[04:54] <cfhowlett> !phone|jam3sm
[05:04] <loudaslife> Can anyone help with this software center error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631963/
[05:04] <makara> best mp3 mass tagging software?
[05:05] <dsnyders> How do I stop my machine from going to sleep when transmission is running?
[05:06] <aeon-ltd> makara: no best, use what ever you need and like
[05:06] <mysteriousdarren> dsyders: go to power manager, and change your settings
[05:06] <aeon-ltd> dsnyders: i don't know if you automate that kind of condition, but you could make a script that turns sleep off and launches transmission
[05:11] <loudaslife> Any help with this software center error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631963/
[05:14] <stroodlepup> hi
[05:14] <stroodlepup> is there a way for me to tweak unity's memory usage?
[05:15] <Tex_Nick> dsnyders : preferences/desktop/inhihib hybernation when torrents are active
[05:16] <pranav> guys where can i buy ubuntu smartphone in india ?
[05:17] <histo> !phone|pranav
[05:17] <histo> stroodlepup: Not really.
[05:17] <clouder`g> how do I set dpi?
[05:18] <pranav> no, i need to buy 1. it hasn't been released right ?
[05:18] <Tex_Nick> pranav : order it online ... https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_8gb&feature=device-featured#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDIwMiwibnVsbC13ZWJfaG9tZV81MDAwMDA1X25leHVzVVNfZGV2aWNlc19VU19fNTAwMDAwNV9uZXh1c1VTXzFfcHJvbW9fMTM2MDE4MjA4NTA1OCJd
[05:19] <pranav> Tex_Nick: says: is not available in your country yet. We're working to bring devices to more countries as quickly as possible. Please check back again soon.
[05:21] <makara> ok, i see software center is best for 'what best software' type of questions
[05:21] <histo> clouder`g: Give me a second to rack my brain or look through my bash history.
[05:21] <Tex_Nick> pranav : well that's no fun ... wait & wish i guess :(
[05:21] <clouder`g> histo, np, thanks
[05:21] <pranav> Tex_Nick: what about a nexus..
[05:23] <wiggmpk> clouder`g: do you use Unity or Gnome 3?
[05:23] <clouder`g> unity I believe, that's the default on 12.04 right?
[05:24] <wiggmpk> clouder`g: yeah, have you looked in system settings > universal access?
[05:24] <wiggmpk> clouder`g: you can adjust the text size there
[05:24] <histo> clouder`g: http://ask.debian.net/questions/how-to-set-the-dpi-of-the-display to do it on the fly
[05:26] <loudaslife> Can anyone help with an ubuntu software center error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631963/
[05:26] <Tex_Nick> pranav : i live in the U.S. ... i buy a lot of hardware from www.newegg.com ... don't know if they ship over-seas ... they're a good company to deal with though
[05:26] <Tex_Nick> pranav:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=nexus+7&x=0&y=0
[05:26] <histo> !phone | pranav
[05:27] <Tex_Nick> histo : pranav posted ...  says: is not available in your country yet. We're working to bring devices to more countries as quickly as possible. Please check back again soon.
[05:28] <histo> Tex_Nick: He wants to run ubuntu on a nexsus. It's all offtopic for here.
[05:28] <histo> loudaslife: dpkg -l | grep libwebkit | pastebinit
[05:29] <wiggmpk> loudaslife: have you tried to reinstall libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 ?
[05:30] <loudaslife> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632064/
[05:30] <loudaslife> wiggmpk: I will try that right now.
[05:30] <pranav> histo: ubuntu on nexus.. wow :D
[05:30] <histo> pranav: there are videos on youtube.
[05:31] <pranav> histo: already into..
[05:31] <tdlam> hello folks
[05:32] <BL-407> Hello
[05:32] <tdlam> I'm having trouble with my panel in xubuntu
[05:33] <histo> !xubuntu | tdlam
[05:33] <tdlam> it is suddenly no longer at the top of the screen...it sits 3/4 the way down the screen and I see no option to move it
[05:33] <tdlam> oh sorry
[05:34] <loudaslife> wiggmpk: That didn't seem to make any difference.
[05:34] <KrisB> hello.
[05:34] <wiggmpk> loudaslife: what was the last thing you installed before you noticed the problem?
[05:35] <loudaslife> wiggmpk: If you mean with apt-get, it was something I used for conky. It might have been fancontroll.
[05:36] <wiggmpk> loudaslife: you could try removing the software center cache, but if that doesnt work (and it probably wont) you'll have to get someone more knowledgeable to help out =(
[05:36] <loudaslife> wiggmpk: Will try, thank you for the help!
[05:37] <wiggmpk> loudaslife: rm -r .cache/software-center should do it
[05:43] <unheeding> is ubuntu a religion
[05:44] <aeon-ltd> unheeding: no/yes
[05:44] <loudaslife> unheeding: No, it's actually a cult.
[05:45] <aeon-ltd> unheeding: no you can't tax dodge by giving out ubuntu cds.
[05:45] <mikedef62> Sorry to bother, but I'm having an issue with my wireless card with Ubuntu 12.10 in regards to Broadcom Drivers. I've read quite a few google searches on the issue, but I can't get it to work automatically. Was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction on where to seek help?
[05:45] <loudaslife> aeon-ltd: lamo
[05:46] <unheeding> heh
[05:48] <yatriga> wifi failed to connect
[05:49] <yatriga> in 12.04 LTS on dell inspiron
[05:49] <yatriga> pls help
[05:50] <dydzEz2> does anyone here have a dual band router and have no internet lag issues?
[05:50] <unheeding> did you try connecting it
[05:53] <histo> yatriga: What is your wifi chipset? lspci  will show you.
[05:54] <wiggmpk> dydzEz2: I have a dual band router with no internet lag
[05:55] <nascentmind> Hi. When there are small fonts my fonts do correct sub pixel rendering. What seems to be the issue?
[05:56] <dydzEz2> do both the bands on your router have different labels/names wiggmpk
[05:57] <wiggmpk> dydzEz2: yeah they have slightly different ESSID's, its probably not a good idea to keep them the same
[05:57] <unheeding> TheRainbowDawn: how is your day?  FABULOUS?
[05:57] <TheRainbowDawn> I hate Bigpond.
[05:58] <dydzEz2> god how do i remove $vt_handoff from  grub
[05:58] <dydzEz2> i can only see quit splash
[05:58] <dydzEz2> removing splash works
[05:58] <dydzEz2> but i rather see my splash screen
[05:59] <pranav> i use wlan from a TPLink router, but some webpages render half.. changed the MTU to 1492, still the same over all browser. not using any proxies in my system. with other routers, pages render all well.
[06:00] <asb_> Hey, I have a macbook pro and I want to install Ubuntu onto it, I wanted to install it onto a SD card or flash drive because my HDD is relatively small, but I can't see any feasible way to do this.
[06:00] <amiu> ?
[06:00] <Wug> histo: I figured I'd tell you I got all of the data back
[06:01] <wiggmpk> pranav: DSL service?
[06:01] <amiu> asb_,  ?
[06:01] <Wug> the partition was intact and I copied all the files out using testdisk
[06:01] <dydzEz2> asb_ you can easily install ubuntu onto a usb stick
[06:01] <Wug> testdisk takes forever to do anything so I decided not to bother going for the whole partition
[06:01] <dydzEz2> use unetbootin, even downloads the ISO for you
[06:01] <jacou_> Are there any Chinese people?
[06:02] <pranav> wiggmpk: yes, a broadband. it has a gateway IP, and dns. which we use to create a private LAN to distribute internet
[06:02] <Wug> jacou_: here? Maybe one or two but not that I know of.
[06:02] <pranav> wiggmpk: and you know, things go fine in my windows
[06:02] <wiggmpk> pranav: and its  PPPoE connection? only reason you would need an MTU of 1492 really
[06:03] <asb_> member:identifier:dydzez2 I can get the LiveCD of ubuntu and install it, but I want to setup a fully installed version of ubuntu, where I can download drivers and set preferences that stay
[06:04] <wiggmpk> pranav: you can try lower the MTU to 1454
[06:04] <wiggmpk> lowering*
[06:04] <pranav> wiggmpk: its a WAN gateway IP which gives us a login page in browser. which authenticates.
[06:04] <pranav> sure..
[06:05] <wiggmpk> or 1452, lemme check something quick
[06:05] <pranav> ok
[06:05] <ravur> In apache - How to setup authorization by file ACL while using client certificates authentication?
[06:05] <wiggmpk> pranav: 1452
[06:06] <Tex_Nick> jacou_  : there are a lot of Chinese people in here at times ... the official channel for the Chinese language is #ubuntu-cn
[06:07] <user__> wechat
[06:07] <pranav> wiggmpk: 1492
[06:07] <pranav> ok, 1452
[06:08] <pranav> wait
[06:08] <wiggmpk> pranav: kk
[06:09] <amiu> how do you type alt chars in linux ( eg; Alt + 5547)
[06:12] <malimbar> amiu: you got a few different ways
[06:12] <malimbar> ctrl + shift should work
[06:12] <amiu> doesnt do anything
[06:13] <amiu> makes the cursor stop blinking for 2 seconds after releasing the buttons n thats about it
[06:14] <malimbar> hmm, let me look it up real quick
[06:14] <malimbar> been a while
[06:16] <malimbar> the way I do it is by using a composekey
[06:16] <wiggmpk> amiu: Ctrl + Shift + U (let go of U but keep holding Ctrl + Shift) and type your code
[06:17] <malimbar> wiggmpk: oh nice! learned smoethign new today
[06:17] <amiu> 啇 wow. thats superfast and easy. yup every noob is gonna remember that the first time
[06:17] <wiggmpk> malimbar: me 2 lol i just google faster I guess
[06:17] <malimbar> woo!
[06:18] <malimbar> 啇
[06:18] <vlyalcin> hii to all, how can i access my  connected galaxy s3 phone files on ubuntu 12.04?
[06:20] <josh___> Hi, I have a quick question, how much space does ubuntu server 12.10 take up?
[06:22] <josh___> Hello?
[06:23] <DaemonicApathy> vlyalcin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/189591/connecting-galaxy-s3-i747-to-ubuntu-12-04
[06:23] <yatriga> cannot find device wlan0 please help me
[06:23] <huttan> josh___: about 1.5gb. But u could prolly vary that depending on how much u customize the packages installed ..
[06:23] <Tex_Nick> vlyalcin:  have you tried a USB cabel ... direct connection ?
[06:24] <josh___> Thanks, huttan seeya!
[06:24] <Tex_Nick> Cable*
[06:25] <yatriga> cannot find device wlan0 please help me
[06:25] <wiggmpk> yatriga: have any more info to provide?
[06:26] <yatriga> tell me what you want
[06:27] <yatriga> tell me what you want wiggmpk
[06:27] <vlyalcin> DaemonicApathy: checking link
[06:27] <wiggmpk> yatriga: was it working before? what kind of wireless card do you have? version of Ubuntu?
[06:27] <yatriga> 12.04 LTS Its was working, Broadcom wiggmpk
[06:28] <w500ubuntu> hello, anyone here good at making gtk3 themes?
[06:28] <wiggmpk> yatriga: put the results of "lshw -C network" in pastebin and link the URL to me plz
[06:28] <DaemonicApathy> yatriga: What are the chances you hit a button or switch on the laptop to turn off the wireless adapter?
[06:30] <w500ubuntu> anyone know how to make gnome-panel fully transparent?
[06:30] <w500ubuntu> on gnome classic
[06:30] <yatriga> wiggmpk it says no wlan0 device found ,,,,, but it was working yesterday
[06:30] <DaemonicApathy> w500ubuntu: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/43673/how-to-make-the-gnome-panels-in-ubuntu-totally-transparent/
[06:31] <wiggmpk> yatriga: put the results of "lshw -C network" in pastebin and link the URL to me plz
[06:31] <yatriga> DaemonicApathy no chance, i have tried everything
[06:31] <Tex_Nick> w500ubuntu:  you mean the top pannel ?
[06:31] <yatriga> wiggmpk ok
[06:32] <Name141> how do you bring the etho up and down? isn't it sudo something eth(#) down / up ?
[06:32] <Transfusion> ifconfig
[06:32] <w500ubuntu> DaemonicApathy, i actually read that awhile ago and its mainly for gtk2.0.
[06:32] <w500ubuntu> Tex_Nick, yes.
[06:33] <Transfusion> Name141: you can also use ifup eth0 which will run scripts you place in /etc/ifup.d
[06:33] <Transfusion> */etc/network/if-up.d
[06:33] <DaemonicApathy> There's a gtk-3.0 folder with essentially the same contents, w500ubuntu...
[06:34] <Tex_Nick> w500ubuntu:  try ... point to pannel ... SUPER+ALT right click properties background
[06:34] <yatriga> wiggmpk http://pastebin.com/rDbdPUPe
[06:35] <w500ubuntu> DaemonicApathy, yes, your right, but how would i modify it? i did find gnome-panel.css and was able to change the entire panel color, but stuck on how to make it transparent.
[06:35] <magn3ts_> some days I really have no love for Ubuntu. Can't login to ANY of my 5 desktop environments... they just immediately loop back to the login screen....
[06:35] <w500ubuntu> Tex_Nick, that's only a partial transparency, the applicaitons,places, and tray icon area is still colored.
[06:36] <magn3ts_> and ubiquity is broken and there's no damn log files with anything useful in them
[06:36] <magn3ts_> and there's no way to run it in verbose mode
[06:36] <yatriga> wiggmpk http://pastebin.com/wtg50tmu
[06:36] <DaemonicApathy> w500ubuntu: Ok, the only other suggestion I can think of is try through compizconfig-settings-manager.
[06:36] <yatriga> wiggmpk http://pastebin.com/wtg50tmu
[06:36] <Tex_Nick> w500ubuntu:  ahhh ok ... i don't know then ... sorry
[06:36] <wiggmpk> yatriga: now "lsmod" in pastebin
[06:37] <w500ubuntu> DaemonicApathy, I did that too, through opacity, but it makes the text transparent too, very hard to read. if there was a way to make the background only transparent.
[06:37] <wiggmpk> yatriga: and "what" is telling you it cant find wlan0, when/where do you see that?
[06:38] <Tex_Nick> w500ubuntu:  can you just autu-hide it ... would thaT HELP ?
[06:38] <yatriga> wiggmpk http://pastebin.com/RnnCGe35
[06:38] <w500ubuntu> Tex_Nick, lol it would, but i'd like to know if it's possible.
[06:39] <BillyZane> what's the command that I type in terminal to open up a second session? Like, when I type ctrl+alt+F# , I should be able to access a second login screen right? But before I do that, I have to type in a command in terminal. Anyone know what that is?
[06:39] <yatriga> wiggmpk dont know
[06:40] <magn3ts_> Can someone please help me... I can't login at all
[06:40] <wiggmpk> yatriga: well how did you find out that it cant find the device?
[06:40] <magn3ts_> And shocker, I can't figure out what log would help me, if any.
[06:40] <Tex_Nick> w500ubuntu:  SUPER+ALT right click on panel ... properties ... general tab ... auto hide
[06:40] <magn3ts_> When I login, it's sucessful and then it immediately loops backand dumps me in the login scnreen agai
[06:41] <w500ubuntu> Tex_Nick, lol im aware of that one. just was wondering if full transparency was possible.
[06:41] <aeon-ltd> magn3ts_: sounds like the DE you're using is crashing
[06:41] <Tex_Nick> w500ubuntu:  i'm using 12.10 with gnome classic de now ... & have the top & bottom pannels set to auto-hide :)
[06:41] <magn3ts_> aeon-ltd: it was all the DEs because I was an idiot and used bash syntax in my .profile.
[06:41] <magn3ts_> aeon-ltd: sorry for the false alarm
[06:42] <DaemonicApathy> BillyZane: run "startx" in a tty: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/multiple-x.html
[06:42] <aeon-ltd> magn3ts_: it's cool :) better than having problems right?
[06:42] <w500ubuntu> Tex_Nick, =), i won't give up yet.
[06:42] <magn3ts_> That having been said, I'd still happily welcome anyone who can tell me what the hell ubiquity is doing on my system when it goes off the deep end and hangs.
[06:42] <tigrang> i just had a kernel panic in ubuntu 12.10. I was editing a file and now that file is empty. is there any way for me to recover the contents of that file?
[06:42] <magn3ts_> aeon-ltd: very much so. at first I thought it was because /home is on my BTRFS RAID array and it had been hosed. That was going to put me in tears.
[06:43] <magn3ts_> tigrang: what editor?
[06:43] <tigrang> PHPStorm
[06:43] <yatriga> wiggmpk dont know
[06:43] <wiggmpk> yatriga: i dont see the driver module loaded that your wireless care is using.. so you should try to load the module and then restart the networking service.. "sudo modprobe w10" to load the driver then "sudo service networking restart" to restart the networking
[06:43] <magn3ts_> tigrang: not sure, sorry.
[06:43] <melty> lol
[06:44] <yatriga> wiggmpk how do i load the module
[06:44] <OerHeks> magn3ts_, known issue, see http://askubuntu.com/a/241989 >> sudo chown user:user .Xauthority and start lightdm again
[06:44] <wiggmpk> yatriga: sudo modprobe w10
[06:44] <tigrang> I dont want to rewrite all that code =/
[06:44] <DaemonicApathy> tigrang: save often
[06:44] <wiggmpk> yatriga: then you can do "lsmod" again and look for it to be sure
[06:44] <tigrang> I did save
[06:45] <tigrang> DaemonicApathy, after kernel panic that file is empty
[06:45] <yatriga> wiggmpk ok
[06:45] <DaemonicApathy> *shrug*
[06:45] <magn3ts_> OerHeks: already got it, I screwed up .profile likea dummy. thanks though!
[06:45] <pranav> wiggmpk: it doesn't work still at MTU 1452 or 1492
[06:46] <wiggmpk> yatriga: if you see the module loaded then restart the networking service.. "sudo service  networking restart"
[06:46] <wiggmpk> pranav: damn, ok so question.. you have a router.. and modem? or a combo deal?
[06:46] <pranav> i've a wireless router
[06:47] <pranav> which connects to the gateway ip
[06:47] <pranav> and then creates a lan for us
[06:47] <pranav> wlan
[06:47] <wiggmpk> pranav: ok, so your router is initiating the connection to your ISP, then using NAT and DHCP for your LAN side network?
[06:48] <wiggmpk> pranav: in other words, your router is being assigned a WAN facing IP from your IP?
[06:48] <wiggmpk> ISP*
[06:48] <pranav> yes
[06:48] <pranav> exactly
[06:48] <wiggmpk> pranav: is your router acting as the DNS or just relaying the DNS from your ISP?
[06:49] <pranav> everything works fine under windows. even under ubuntu, but some pages like youtube, fb, ms.. they end up rendering half
[06:49] <pranav> often with missing thumnails and images totally
[06:49] <pranav> i've tried 4 different browsers
[06:49] <pranav> its same
[06:50] <wiggmpk> pranav: so this problem exists on a Windows OS as well?
[06:50] <pranav> No
[06:50] <pranav> not at all
[06:50] <wiggmpk> pranav: different machines? difference in connection medium? cat5 vs wireless
[06:51] <pranav> nope. i've dual boot in my system
[06:51] <pranav> same router, same lan..
[06:51] <wiggmpk> pranav: using any proxy at all system wide or browser based on ubuntu?
[06:51] <pranav> and when i use same settings with a netgear router. its completely fine also with UBUNTU. that proves that I have 'none' system wide proxy settings
[06:52] <jmcantrell> how do i turn off the launcher web app thingy?
[06:52] <wiggmpk> pranav: ok stupid question... have you tried power cycling all the networking equipment?
[06:52] <KrisB> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux Without CD Section. Afteer "apt-get install grub-pc linux-image", the error: E: Couldn't configure pre-depend multiarch-support for libnih-dbus1, probably a dependency cycle."
[06:53] <pranav> you mean reset.. ? there's only 1 router. it has been resets on power cuts which are frequent
[06:53] <wiggmpk> pranav: well not reset per say, just removing the power for like 30seconds, then powering up each 1 at a time with like a 15ish sec lag between devices
[06:54] <Noskcaj> any idea what happened to the ultimate edition website?
[06:54] <pranav> huh! no
[06:55] <pranav> wiggmpk: what is it supposed to do btw.. ? wait
[06:55] <wiggmpk> pranav: im assuming you have a DSL modem connected to the router (cant remember if you told me that or not)
[06:55] <wiggmpk> pranav: thats like rule 300 and something in IT, if it doesnt work unplug it and plug it back in lol
[06:56] <pranav> wiggmpk: yes, a WiFi interface which connects to this WirelessRouter
[06:56] <pranav> diretly
[06:56] <Tex_Nick> jmcantrell:  could you please explain that in more detail ?
[06:57] <pranav> and the WirelessRouter in turn is connected to a cable that came from ISP
[06:57] <wiggmpk> pranav: just a cable? no modem?
[06:57] <pranav> yes
[06:58] <wiggmpk> pranav: and RJ11 line? regular telephone cord? right into the back of the router?
[06:58] <ASHER1> Hello i need please help about control panel i can run in ubuntu?
[06:58] <KrisB> so how to fix "Couldn't configure pre-depend multiarch-support for libnih-dbus1, probably a dependency cycle."?
[06:58] <pranav> wiggmpk: that is connected to the modem of isp, but its not in our place
[06:58] <pranav> its far off the pole
[06:59] <Tex_Nick> jmcantrell:  what distro & desktop enviornment are you using ... and what exactly does the "launcher broweser thingy" refer to :)
[06:59] <wiggmpk> pranav: thats weird
[06:59] <wiggmpk> pranav: is this like a reseller ISP, like a small town?
[06:59] <pranav> wiggmpk: yes, you got it right
[07:00] <wiggmpk> pranav: has this always been a problem or just more recently?
[07:00] <ASHER1> someone?
[07:00] <pranav> wiggmpk: i just subsribed to them
[07:00] <pranav> *subscribed
[07:00] <pranav> okey, here's sth i found
[07:00] <pranav> there is this 2.5KB image
[07:00] <pranav> https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc6/260668_1389536856_209124208_q.jpg
[07:01] <pranav> this fails to load with TPRouter
[07:01] <pranav> and loads well with NetGear
[07:01] <wiggmpk> pranav: how old is the TProuter vs the Netgear?
[07:01] <pranav> netgear 1 month, and TPLink 1 week
[07:02] <pranav> wiggmpk: do you think i should start watching for packets in wireshark
[07:02] <wiggmpk> pranav: did your ISP give you the TPLink ?
[07:02] <pranav> no, i bought it
[07:02] <pranav> and compare the changes in packets for both routers
[07:02] <wiggmpk> pranav: i mean you could if you know how to read them, im not really familiar with wireshark
[07:02] <pranav> wiggmpk: me too
[07:03] <wiggmpk> pranav: is there any benefit to using the TPLink router over the Netgear?
[07:05] <pranav> wiggmpk: Netgear is my friends router. not any known benefit. a bit expensive. but the cp has lesser settings to change
[07:05] <pranav> i tried to compare all the fields like RTS, MTU
[07:05] <pranav> its mostly same
[07:05] <melty> lol
[07:06] <wiggmpk> pranav: well I would say call your ISP for tech support, but they will probably turn you away once you mention linux
[07:07] <Ben64> if its working with one router and not the other, it sounds like a router problem
[07:07] <pranav> wiggmpk: exactly.
[07:07] <wiggmpk> Ben64: true, but he said when he's in Windows using the router that doesnt work with Ubuntu he doesnt have the issue
[07:08] <pranav> wiggmpk: yes
[07:08] <Ben64> bad lan drivers in linux?
[07:08] <ASHER1> ?
[07:08] <wiggmpk> Ben64: possible I guess, but with his friends Netgear router the issue isnt present either
[07:09] <Ben64> yeah, some routers suck
[07:09] <wiggmpk> pranav: I would hate to tell you to spend the extra money on a Netgear, Cisco, or dare I say Linksys.. but I'm at a lost my friend =(
[07:10] <pranav> wiggmpk: seems like it..
[07:10] <asilhouette1> anybody been able to create working virtual AP's on mac80211.
[07:10] <Ben64> get a cisco valet m10
[07:10] <Ben64> i found one at a thrift store for $8, works fantastic with Tomato
[07:10] <pranav> Ben64: noted
[07:10] <asilhouette1> i was able to create a virtual AP but couldn't use the device to both receive and distribute wifi
[07:10] <wiggmpk> Ben64 yeah with Tomato lol
[07:11] <Ben64> worked fine stock too, but I like the custom firmwares
[07:11] <wiggmpk> I hear that
[07:12] <pranav> Ben64: wiggmpk: but why would only few images, links, and css fails GET request on some sites. i mean because of hardware ?
[07:13] <prashant_123456> ltsp cannot login using username and password no response from server session restarting
[07:13] <prashant_123456> bean, got tftp working
[07:13] <Ben64> bad lan driver, router connection limit, um...
[07:14] <wiggmpk> pranav: in my opinion... its a 2 sided coin.. different equipment works so it could be the router.. but it also could be drivers in your ubuntu installation
[07:14] <Ben64> you should say what card it is
[07:15] <wiggmpk> Can anyone help me fix auto-mute.. I get sound from my headphones.. when I unplug them, no sound from speakers.. disabling auto-mute in alsamixer gives me sound all the time in bother channels
[07:15] <Tex_Nick> pranav:  would wget http://site ... with the log attribute show you errors ? ... not sure bout that
[07:16] <HTOOHTOO123> hay
[07:16] <pranav> wait
[07:16] <HTOOHTOO123> sup
[07:16] <Tex_Nick> something like wget -o ... as i remember ... don't remember what log shows though
[07:17] <HTOOHTOO123> .o0o.
[07:18] <magn3ts> for the love of all that is good, let me report a freaking bug on launchpad
[07:18] <magn3ts> "Report a bug" takes me to a useless community wiki page
[07:18] <HTOOHTOO123> hahhah
[07:18] <pranav> wiggmpk: Tex_Nick: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632221/
[07:18] <hillary> what are the procedures of accessing localhost documents in ubuntu 12.04
[07:19] <pranav> sry
[07:19] <pranav> its with no quotes
[07:19] <pranav> :(
[07:19] <wiggmpk> pranav: can you ping fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net
[07:19] <pranav> its the same error log but :)
[07:20] <pranav> wiggmpk: have tried it before.. it fails
[07:20] <pranav> but not with the other device..
[07:21] <wiggmpk> hmm
[07:21] <wiggmpk> pranav: any firewalls on either of the routers?
[07:22] <pranav> wiggmpk: never seen a word "firewall" in any pages of CP for both the router
[07:23] <pranav> wiggmpk: ok, guys thanks for the coordination.. :)
[07:23] <wiggmpk> pranav: anything like Internet NAT redirection or Multicast something like that?
[07:23] <wiggmpk> pranav: one more question... both of the routers.. are they giving out IPv4 address's or IPv6?
[07:24] <pranav> wiggmpk: couldn't get. my LAN IP, and router's WAN is IPv4
[07:24] <Tex_Nick> pranav:  i haven't scrolled up to see the entire issue ... if you're only loosingpartial data on partial protocols intermittently ... can you just plug your pc direct into the cloud ... or have you already done that & determined probnlem is with a specific device ?
[07:25] <wiggmpk> pranav: ifconfig will show your IP address's
[07:26] <wiggmpk> Tex_Nick: looks like he narrowed it down to a specific router, only affecting his Ubuntu install
[07:27] <pranav> Tex_Nick: haven't tried that.. (trying takes losing connection)
[07:27] <pranav> will try and tell you guys
[07:27] <Tex_Nick> pranav:  process of elimination :)
[07:27] <pranav> wiggmpk: i think sites like facebook, microsoft, and youtube started using some IPv6, right ?
[07:28] <pranav> Tex_Nick: yes :)
[07:28] <pranav> wiggmpk: those are the sites that renders through halfway
[07:28] <wiggmpk> pranav: yeah but that wouldnt matter for you, only their connection to the net.
[07:29] <pranav> ok
[07:29] <wiggmpk> pranav: you wanna pastebin "ifconfig" for me? just curious
[07:29] <pranav> gmail is totally fine
[07:29] <wiggmpk> pranav: but im at a loss
[07:29] <pranav> wiggmpk: loss.. means ?
[07:30] <wiggmpk> pranav: no idea how to fix it haha
[07:30] <hilarie> Okay, I run my ubuntu server, on a thumb drive, and occasionally check DU, and quite recently, the /var/log filled up my disk, is this normal(it has a public ip)
[07:30] <HTOOHTOO123> nslookup
[07:30] <wiggmpk> pranav: other than the obvious of replacing the equipment with known working hardware
[07:30] <pranav> wiggmpk: hehe... yes
[07:31] <pranav> wiggmpk:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632240/
[07:31] <hilarie> is there anything bad that could happen if I 'sudo rm -r /var/log/*
[07:31] <hilarie> '
[07:32] <wiggmpk> hilarie: an absence of logs... but probably not
[07:32] <hillary> Thanks i have managed. just copy the extracted folder to /var/ww/. then type in the browser localhost/folder then press enter.there you are to access itlocally
[07:32] <wiggmpk> pranav: looks like your getting both ipv4 and 6 address's
[07:32] <hilarie> Hillary, your name freaks me out
[07:32] <Tex_Nick> pranav:  you mentioned wireshark earlier ... it's a good tool for what you want to do
[07:32] <Tex_Nick> have you asked in #ubuntu-server
[07:33] <kunji> I'm on Lubuntu and I just noticed something kind of odd.  All I have open is a terminal window.  If it's open I get a little bit of static on the analogue audio out, if it's minimized the static disappears.  It's not really a problem, but I was wondering about any speculation on why this might happen?
[07:33] <tigrang> After a kernel panic occurred, the file I was editing is now empty. Is there any way to recover its contents?
[07:34] <wiggmpk> tigrang: you can try and look for the file with the ~ after it.. should be hidden
[07:34] <pranav> Tex_Nick: yes, i will try the process of elimination and then go for it for some clues ;)
[07:34] <wiggmpk> tigrang: example /etc/hosts vs /etc/hosts~
[07:34] <hillary> hilarie,  oops ! why?
[07:34] <tigrang> wiggmpk, there isn't a file like that
[07:34] <wiggmpk> pranav: if you have the option to disable IPv6 on the router, try that too
[07:34] <Tex_Nick> pranav:  good luck man ... report back :)
[07:35] <pranav> ok
[07:35] <hilarie> hillary ?
[07:35] <wiggmpk> tigrang: guess you didnt make a copy of the original before editing?
[07:36] <hillary> hilarie,  Good name eah! change yours to hillary
[07:36] <tigrang> it started off as an empty file, I wrote all of it
[07:36] <hilarie> someone had already registered it!
[07:36] <histo> Wonder who?
[07:37] <wiggmpk> tigrang: no save in between editing eh... unless someone else has a trick I think you lost it
[07:37] <tigrang> wiggmpk, yes, there were many saves
[07:37] <hillary> hilarie, but this is hillary man  from kenya not hillary clinton!! good sunday
[07:37] <tigrang> but it crashed while I was saving (again)
[07:37] <wiggmpk> tigrang: then there should be a ~ file.. it's hidden though.. enter the directory and try ls -la
[07:38] <tigrang> wiggmpk, doesnt that depend on the editor? There isn't a file like that (wish there was lol)
[07:38] <wiggmpk> tigrang: which editor were you using?
[07:38] <Tex_Nick> kunji : sounds like an emi vertical refresh interference ... usually caused by a bad decouple capacitor on motherboard ?
[07:38] <tigrang> wiggmpk, phpstorm
[07:39] <tigrang> it keeps local history of files, but that directory got corrupted too
[07:39] <hilarie> hillary It's hilarie Duff!
[07:39] <hilarie> tyvm
[07:39] <hilarie> Well, I backed up the log file to another drive, and deleted it, if it fills up again, I guess i will be back!
[07:40] <wiggmpk> tigrang: uggh, there's nothing else I could think of
[07:40] <tigrang> k
[07:40] <tigrang> thanks
[07:40] <histo> hilarie: what log file?
[07:41] <hilarie> histo the mail, and the auth, and xorg, were all over a gig
[07:41] <Tex_Nick> kunji : if you move the window around os type into it ... do you hear hissing ?
[07:41] <theadmin> hilarie: Make sure logrotate and some sort of a cron daemon are installed
[07:41] <hilarie> theadmin it was less then a week from it being tiny, to this
[07:41] <theadmin> hilarie: Yeah, tends to happen when logrotate is missing.
[07:42] <kunji> Tex_Nick: Are those the bigger caps that you can usually replace yourself?  All of those look ok to me (no leaking, no bulging, perfectly flat tops).  It's a very slight change, so I was thinking it's probably not a hardware 'flaw' per se, that is maybe in the design, but I think the components are good.  I may not have expressed my question well.
[07:42] <hilarie> there were a couple .olds and stuff, would that have been log rotate?
[07:43] <kunji> Tex_Nick: Hmm, I do hear a modulation in the static, it's not really a hiss though, more of a very quiet buzzing who's frequency changes a little as a move the window around.
[07:43] <theadmin> hilarie: Not sure what makes those, but I have logrotate installed, the system is running for about a month now and /var/log is only 9 meters big
[07:43] <theadmin> hilarie: Err, megabytes.
[07:43] <Tex_Nick> kunji : no those are filter caps ... the ones i'm talking about are the size of small ants :(
[07:43] <histo> hilarie: You can take a look at logrotate configs and see what it's set for. But .old is not something it usually does.
[07:44] <kunji> Tex_Nick: Oh, ... those ones, yuck, would just need to live with it if there's a problem with one of those
[07:44] <hilarie> Well, /var/log hit 4gb in less then a week
[07:44] <histo> hilarie: is it full of errors?
[07:44] <theadmin> hilarie: sudo apt-get install logrotate # Should fix your issue.
[07:44] <histo> hilarie: for instance I have /var/log mounted to ram right now and it's only 1M
[07:45] <yatriga> how do i control fan speed in ubuntu
[07:45] <histo> yatriga: I just saw something about that.
[07:45] <Tex_Nick> kunji : yeah, sounds like the video vertical refresh signal is bleeding onto the bus ... not good :(
[07:45] <hilarie> histo need security? why is /var/log there?
[07:45] <yatriga> histo pls share
[07:46] <theadmin> !info fanctonrol | yatriga
[07:46] <theadmin> wha
[07:46] <theadmin> Oh, typo
[07:46] <theadmin> !info fancontrol | yatriga
[07:46] <tigrang> ~info fancontrol | yatriga
[07:46] <tigrang> :)
[07:46] <yatriga> does that control the fan speed or just monitor?
[07:47] <wiggmpk> yatriga: did you get your wireless fixed?
[07:47] <theadmin> yatriga: It can set the fan speed to desired one according to defined temperatures in the config file
[07:47] <kunji> Tex_Nick: Well, it's no show stopper at least, this machine has been solid for almost 3 years now, I don't use the audio on it much though, so I probably just never notice (has mostly been serving as a linux based router).
[07:48] <histo> yatriga: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XloTXFgNL7s  Hak5 just did an episode on battery savings etc..
[07:48] <yatriga> wiggmpk : Yup Cheers
[07:48] <hilarie> kunji my ubuntu router is also my media center and fileserver :D
[07:48] <histo> yatriga: They also talked about fanspeed
[07:48] <wiggmpk> yatriga: woot
[07:48] <tigrang> wiggmpk, I think setting up ubuntu one to sync automatically would be wise :P
[07:48] <wiggmpk> tigrang: thats probably a good idea =)
[07:48] <histo> hilarie: I moutn log in ram because I have an SSD and I dont' care about hte logs after reboot
[07:49] <hilarie> histo ahhh
[07:49] <lupfantomo> Hi all.  I've recently upgraded to 12.10 and my connection is painfully slow whether plugged in or wireless.  I've followed everything I can find googling for a solution with no luck.  Any ideas?
[07:50] <dan_> hi i am having trouble getting wine to work
[07:50] <Guest55717> about half the time i run it it says it can't find my .exe file
[07:50] <Guest55717> the other half it works fine
[07:50] <theadmin> lupfantomo: Try disabling IPv6 (in NetworkManager, click "Edit" on your connection, go to "IPv6 Settings" and set "Method" to "Ignore", then reconnect)
[07:50] <tripelb> i've neen asking here for 1.5 weeks about my partitions. 5 min on #linux and the advice was delete the non-windows ones. I go discover cfdisk...do it. Magic! gparted and the installer now work. Whew. Been a long strange trip
[07:51] <_dan_> anyone know how to debug it?
[07:51] <amiu> "Download Ubuntu One for Windows!"  <--- Why is this so damn funny?
[07:51] <amiu> wrong room...
[07:51] <lupfantomo> theadmin: I've done that.  I've also updated the drivers, and tried wicd(now back on network manager).  Nothing seems to help.  Windows is fine with it so I don't think it is a hardware issue.
[07:51] <hilarie> tripelb lol, nice
[07:51] <tripelb> :P
[07:51] <kunji> hilarie: I actually opted to have a different machine handle the other two functions, mainly because of a lack of a good way to get fast file I/O on this machine (only USB 2.0 and only space inside for a single drive).  I'm now repurposing it as a light desktop system since I got a new router and put dd-wrt on it.
[07:51] <tripelb> hil
[07:52] <theadmin> lupfantomo: Hm... Interesting.
[07:52] <theadmin> lupfantomo: (that means I don't know what the problem is :D)
[07:52] <_dan_> or, any advice for updating wine to a non buggy version? i assumed the one in the repos would be ok
[07:52] <_dan_> i am using 12.04
[07:52] <helmut_> hi
[07:52] <theadmin> _dan_: Wine doesn't have a "non-buggy version", it's not perfect, probably will never be
[07:52] <Tex_Nick> kunji : i hear you ... a kludge would be to place a capacitor ( polyethelene non-polarized ) .o1 pf across the audio sig &gnd lines ... problem is the noise is on the buis ... i wonder if it might get worse with time ... maybe start causind data corruption
[07:52] <lupfantomo> theadmin: I've yelled in rage a few times and am horribly close to turning the laptop into a paper weight. :D
[07:52] <kunji> _dan_: There is not non buggy version
[07:53] <kunji> *not a non..
[07:53] <_dan_> well ok, one that at least is consistent in failing :/
[07:53] <lupfantomo> Guess I'll go back to 12.04.  But tomorrow.  My head is aching too much now.
[07:53] <histo> !appdb | _dan_
[07:53] <theadmin> _dan_: You can find instructions on getting the latest Wine version on http://winehq.org
[07:53] <theadmin> _dan_: That's much as I can say
[07:53] <kunji> Tex_Nick: Hmm, well, I'll just watch it carefully for now, if it give me any further problems I'll try that, thanks ^_^
[07:53] <histo> _dan_: the other option is running a winblows virtual machine seamlessly
[07:54] <_dan_> that is not going to be fast enough
[07:54] <_dan_> i want to run avisynth, virtualization would bloat it too much i think
[07:54] <histo> _dan_: what does avisynth do perhaps there is an opensource alternative
[07:54] <tripelb> hilarie: thanks. no one here could deal with partitions.  nice to know where to go. Moral we need a page on how to overwrite an ubuntu pver a prev. installation. or an option to do so in the installer. i guessed and messed it up.
[07:55] <kunji> _dan_: Dual boot is the the best way to do it, as much as I hate to run Windows....
[07:55] <Tex_Nick> kunji : it might also be comming from the power supply ... switching power supplys generarte a lot of emi ... that's why they are in their own box ... you might try another pS to see
[07:55] <_dan_> avisynth is a video processing / scripting program, it is open source
[07:55] <_dan_> it just relies too much on directshow / vfw to work on linux currently
[07:55] <histo> _dan_: Do they posibly have a linux version?
[07:56] <_dan_> their linux version is probably even more unstable than running it in wine :)
[07:56]  * Tex_Nick DCC's kunji a BIG hammer ờᴗớ
[07:56] <we6jbo> Hi
[07:56] <kunji> Tex_Nick: Hmm, the power block is external actually, it's a NT510: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119026
[07:57] <damhyojung> hi all
[07:57] <we6jbo> I have a question
[07:57] <kunji> !ask | we6jbo
[07:57] <histo> _dan_: Doubtfull
[07:57] <yatriga> is there anything called as smc fancontrol like in mac
[07:57] <yatriga> to change thr rpn via gui?
[07:57] <Tex_Nick> ahh , ok looked at it ... it uses a brick ps
[07:57] <histo> _dan_: I would try the linux version over running through wine. and there is this I also found http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/AviSynth_v3
[07:58] <tigrang> Does ubuntu one usually take a really long time for syncing? (at least the first time)
[07:58] <amiu> spend $5 on a hardware fan controller?
[07:58] <_dan_> avisynth v3 is not even in alpha state yet :)
[07:58] <amiu> theres avidemux
[07:58] <yatriga> amiu i can spend?
[07:58] <kunji> Yatriga: I don't think I've heard of anyone using a gui for it, nor of a program with that name on Ubuntu, I could be wrong though.
[07:59] <amiu> yeah. a thing that goes in one of your empty drive bays with knobs that you turn yourself to control fan speed
[07:59] <yatriga> kunji dont u think we need one
[07:59] <kunji> _dan_: Are you trying to edit video or convert files, if the later, then I would suggest ffmpeg, though it has a steep learning curve.
[08:00] <amiu> theres a lot of stuff id like to have. like an overclocking tool for something becides GPU
[08:00] <theadmin> kunji: There's winff which makes it easier :P
[08:00] <kunji> theadmin: Yeah, but it doesn't cover a lot of cases, good place to start though.
[08:01] <we6jbo> I have a PPA USB to Serial Adapter and I want to plug a serial device into it and access it through Ubuntu
[08:01] <_dan_> i am mostly converting files
[08:01] <kunji> tigrang: In my experience yes, the first time at least takes quite a while to sync.
[08:01] <tigrang> kunji, ok, thanks
[08:02] <histo> _dan_: then use ffmpeg
[08:02] <amiu> i've been using OpenShot for conversion
[08:02] <theadmin> _dan_: Then just use winff or ffmpeg or mencoder
[08:02] <amiu> little overkill but it does the job n its easy to use
[08:03] <yatriga> Thanks
[08:04] <user__> how are you
[08:04] <kunji> amiu: I'm pretty sure OpenShot uses ffmpeg underneath.  It might be good for his uses, I haven't tried it before, I don't know how much of ffmpeg's functionality it exposes.
[08:05] <histo> we6jbo: plug it in and use it then
[08:06] <we6jbo> I tried but I couldn't seem to get it to work
[08:06] <dydzEz2> man i need to find a good grub splash image
[08:07] <yatriga> best application to design web apps
[08:07] <histo> !best | yatriga
[08:07] <kunji> !details | we6jbo
[08:07] <yatriga> ok dok
[08:09] <we6jbo> Well I have a program called D-Rats that I installed and a D-Star radio. I plugged the radio into the Serial to USB converter which goes in the laptop but when I setup d-rats I couldnt seem to connect and it gave me errors. It asked where the serial port was /dev/ttyUSB0 is what I have it set at
[08:09] <lucido> hi, how can I active remote desktop from the terminal?
[08:10] <histo> we6jbo: lookat dmesg and see what port it actually is
[08:11] <histo> !vnc | lucido
[08:12] <we6jbo> Ill have to try that when I'm in the car again sometime tomorrow
[08:13] <amiu> okay how about is there anything that has more features (prefurably WYSIWYG) than Bluefish?
[08:13] <histo> we6jbo: If the machine hasn't been shut off the info is still probably in dmesg
[08:13] <histo> we6jbo: Also i'm assuming that's probably the wrong portname
[08:14] <we6jbo> it wouldnt be in /dev would it?
[08:15] <histo> we6jbo: Yes but it depends which usb port it's plugged into.
[08:16] <histo> we6jbo: It may be on a different port depends where you plug it in etc...
[08:18] <histo> we6jbo: But basically when you have the hardware in front of you. sudo dmesg -c   to clear dmesg.  Then hook up your stuff. and check the output of dmesg  It should show you the device name.
[08:20] <MK`> How do I check which programs are using an amount of bandwidth?
[08:20] <histo> MK`: ntop I believe shows with process is using bandwidth
[08:20] <MK`> alright thanks
[08:21] <dydzEz2> is there a GUI application now a days for changing grub splash screens
[08:21] <dydzEz2> i found a post but its so old
[08:21] <we6jbo> Could that be it 1.105496] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial.
[08:22] <histo> we6jbo: just below that.
[08:22] <histo> we6jbo: dmesg | grep usb
[08:23] <histo> we6jbo: You should see something like now attached to ttyUSBx
[08:23] <histo> dmesg | grep tty I guess would work also
[08:25] <lucido> kj
[08:28] <StuartIanNaylor> Anyone know how to force 12.04 kernel to load the software raid modules?
[08:29] <StuartIanNaylor> My server is banging out during grub because the raid5 / (root) partition isn't being detected
[08:30] <vedic> Hi friends, I have setup logwatch which is sending email every day. It was sending log data from ssh log file as well (number of successful attempts, illegal user attempts, failed attempts etc) but now it is not appearing
[08:30] <vedic> How to fix this?
[08:31] <Alocer> look in your spam folder
[08:32] <vedic> Alocer: Spam folder? I do get email but attached log file is missing data from ssh log files which logwatcher used to collect before
[08:33] <Alocer> sry vedic i cant help more than that i have no idea what s logwatcher . i mean i have never worked with it.
[08:34] <we6jbo> is it possible that if the serial device isn't setup property and I have the USB Serial plugged in that I won't see TTYUSB?
[08:34] <Wug> I fixed the problem of not being able to login
[08:34] <Wug> somehow root got a hold of my .Xauthority
[08:34] <dydzEz2> anyone know a good site for gub splash images
[08:34] <kunji> Come to think of it, how do you overclock in Ubuntu?  Or do we basically just let the BIOS handle things like that?  I know for the Raspberry Pi you can do it with directives in a file that is read on boot (for Raspbian), but they're dealing with a pretty particular piece of hardware.
[08:35] <Wug> kunji: let the bios do it
[08:35] <Alocer> :P
[08:36] <BlackDalek> what is an easy/fastest way to convert ogv video file to an mpeg2 mpg file of similar quality?
[08:37] <kunji> Wug: Right, that's my general approach, I suppose the question is, does it always go through the bios.  So do apps for overclocking basically just change the bios/send bios directives.  Or is there something actually exposed directly to the OS level that could allow more direct runtime changes?
[08:39] <vedic> I have setup logwatch which is sending email every day and log file as attachment to that email. I am creating log file manually by running logwatcher --output to file and then using commandline email client to send that log file as attachment. Logwatcher was sending log data from ssh log file and other network attempts but now logwatcher is sending only disk status no network data. Why logwatcher is not able to get all data?
[08:39] <kunji> Wug: Or maybe you want to force a particular level of cpu scaling and the bios doesn't happen to support this in their GUI, whereas Catalyst would actually allow you to set this on WIndows, but I believe it does not on Ubuntu.
[08:40] <Wug> generally the bios will let you use levels of scaling that are far beyond what the cpu is capable of
[08:40] <kunji> BlackDalek: Probably Winff
[08:40] <Wug> unless you mean a cpu with a locked multiplier or something
[08:40] <kunji> BlackDalek: Or maybe OpenShot, ffmpeg will for sure work, but using it directly isn't the easiest thing
[08:40] <Wug> but I don't think you need to worry about breaking 6GHz for a while :D
[08:41] <Wug> I'm going to post a guide of exactly how I unborked my partitions later
[08:41] <kunji> Wub: I don't mean that, I mean the dynamic scaling they often do for power saving
[08:41] <Wug> wub wub wub \:D/
[08:41]  * Wug goes away
[08:41] <lupfantomo> This is ridiculous.  I can't even surf thanks to it.  Getting rid of ubuntu once and for all I think.  Each update only has more problems and it's become more hassle than it's worth.
[08:41] <BlackDalek> kunji, I have been trying ffmeg but every time it makes a hideously pixelated low quality file... trying openshot right now, but it's very slow...
[08:42] <Wug> BlackDalek: post the arguments you're using (or pastebin them if theyre huge)
[08:43] <defekt> !botsnack
[08:43] <kunji> BlackDalek: Well, conveting video will always be slow.  Also the problem you're having with ffmpeg is almost certainly that you're not giving it the right arguments.  Almost every conversion tool on linux uses ffmpeg underneath, including OpenShot.  So if OpenShot ends up giving better results, then you know for sure you just weren't giving ffmpeg the right arguments for preserving quality, etc..
[08:43] <kunji> *converting
[08:43] <Wug> brb restarting x
[08:45] <Wug> I dont know why I bothered to come back
[08:45] <Tex_Nick> BlackDalek:  try ... ffmpeg -i inVid.ogg -sameq outVid.mpg
[08:45] <Wug> nothing's broken \:D/
[08:47] <Tex_Nick> BlackDalek:  ogg = ogv ^
[08:48] <ibqn> I have issues with my wifi connection after an update I am not able to connect anymore!!! using broadcom
[08:49] <waheedi> people anyone knows where can i find session command for ubuntu
[08:49] <waheedi> ?
[08:49] <dydzEz2> is adding a custom grub background image as easy as going into boot/grub as root and adding an image and then updating grub?
[08:49] <waheedi> trying to use session required /lib/security/pam_limits.so
[08:49] <Alocer> yes dydzEz2
[08:49] <dydzEz2> i want to make a image that like hides the lines and makes everything natural
[08:50] <Alocer> comment out the line that you dont want
[08:51] <pleb22> Hi there, I am having trouble with chromium and firefox connecting to the internet... but ping DOES work
[08:51] <kunji> lupfantomo:I missed the beginning of your conversation, but you're trying to get a wireless connection to work?  You're sure it's the right driver?  For getting help with that you should probably provide exactly what the device, you can find this using: lspci   Also any errors that might be related in /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/syslog  Also check that the correct module is present, and being loaded (this part I'm unfortunately fuzzy on, pr
[08:52] <dydzEz2>  alocer i mean like the box , the layout of grub
[08:52] <dydzEz2> you can do that? what file
[08:52] <vedic> I have setup logwatch which creates a file as --output. Logwatcher was sending log data from ssh log file and other network attempts but now logwatcher is sending only disk status no network data. Why logwatcher is not able to get all data?
[08:52] <Alocer> dydzEz2, i think you have recompile it IDK
[08:53] <Wug> pleb22: you're using irc from the box with issues?
[08:53] <kunji> pleb22: Have you checked if your dns is working?  Does ping something.com fail, but ping x.x.x.x works?
[08:53] <pleb22> Wug: Negative
[08:54] <pleb22> DNS works from ping
[08:54] <Wug> what sort of errors are you getting from the web?
[08:54] <Wug> also is this a wired or wireless connection
[08:54] <pleb22> Wug: Just unresponsive
[08:54] <pleb22> it doesnt time out
[08:54] <pleb22> bridged VMWARE
[08:54] <kunji> pleb22: Hmm, maybe incorrect system wide proxy settings (which firefox will use by default)?
[08:54] <pleb22> no proxy
[08:55] <Wug> pleb22: host machine works though?
[08:55] <Halite> .
[08:55] <pleb22> host works fine
[08:55] <Halite> omg
[08:55]  * Halite became a chicken
[08:55] <Alocer> pleb22, what about firewall on both host and guest
[08:55] <pleb22> bridged should bypass host.. but checking firewall now
[08:55] <pleb22> ufw maybe...
[08:55] <Halite> It should be easier to make programs
[08:55] <Wug> Halite: no it shouldn't
[08:55] <pleb22> will try turning off ufw... how do you do that btw?
[08:55] <Halite> for those who don't know Python
[08:56] <Wug> thats like saying it should be easier to make cars
[08:56] <Halite> Wug: It may be easy enough, but there are people who don't use Python
[08:56] <Wug> can you imagine a world where everyone drove a bucket of bolts they built themselves
[08:56] <STMelon> pleb22: suso ufw disable
[08:56] <Alocer> pleb22, "ufw disable"
[08:56] <Wug> there would be no standards
[08:56] <pleb22> disabled
[08:56] <pleb22> nothing
[08:56] <Threepwood> Halite: cmon programming python easy, also for people not using it, nothing compared to sth real like c++
[08:56] <pleb22> will disable host now
[08:57] <pleb22> host firewall off... dont hack me :p
[08:57] <Halite> Threepwood: I should make a Javascript API for Ubuntu programming, any ideas on that
[08:57] <Alocer> lol
[08:57]  * Wug haxors pleb22 
[08:57]  * Halite haxors Wug
[08:57] <Alocer> lol how u do that wug :P ?
[08:57] <pleb22> is haxored
[08:58] <Threepwood> Halote: no sorry, didn't do that, so I also would have to ask the net :)
[08:58] <Wug> im behind 7 proxies, a bouncer, and 2 routers
[08:58] <auronandace> Halite: maybe gnome3 developer would like you
[08:58] <pleb22> both firewalls off... nothing
[08:58] <Wug> now you're trapped inside. checkmate :D
[08:58] <pleb22> damn
[08:58] <vedic>  I have setup logwatch which creates a file as --output. Logwatcher was sending log data from ssh log file and other network attempts but now logwatcher is sending only disk status no network data. Why logwatcher is not able to get all data?
[08:58] <kunji> Wub: But all your systems have UPnP turned on :P
[08:58] <pleb22> whilst your haxoring me, could you fix my internet?? :p
[08:58] <Wug> kunji: universal plug and pwn
[08:59] <Alocer> w8 pleb22 how are u talking here right now ?
[08:59] <kunji> pleb22: Ah, vmware and networking, you should probably give the details of your entire setup and pastebin them.  Also, the folks in ##networking may know more, also in whatever the vmware channel is (it could be some bug on their end, we haven't ruled anything out).
[08:59] <Alocer> pleb22, R U on host ?
[08:59] <Tex_Nick> Alocer : you type /me message ... and it dings every device on the net ờᴗớ
[08:59] <Wug> look at wug's magical topic derailing powers
[08:59] <Wug> I think its time for me to go.  night everyone
[08:59] <pleb22> yeah on host
[08:59] <pleb22> its just the ubuntu box that wont connect... so wierd
[09:00] <pleb22> bet this will be something simple and humiliating
[09:00] <Alocer> ok ru sure the problem isnt related to VMWare ?
[09:00] <pleb22> well maybe, but simplest connection is bridged, which just behaves like a physical nic
[09:01] <pleb22> bridges a local nic and has an IP address on external network
[09:01] <pleb22> it WAS working
[09:01] <Alocer> what is the environment variable for proxis have checked them ?
[09:01] <Alocer> have you checked*
[09:03] <pleb22> checking now... should be no proxy
[09:03] <pleb22> oh
[09:03] <pleb22> env variable?
[09:03] <pleb22> where do I find that
[09:03] <Alocer> yes i think
[09:03] <Alocer> i cant remebered
[09:03] <Alocer> remember it *
[09:03] <Alocer> sry
[09:04] <pleb22> lol
[09:04] <pleb22> didnt know there was such a thing
[09:05] <Alocer> check the file : -> /etc/environment/ dont change it just c if its empty or not . mine have only path variable
[09:05] <kunji> pleb22: Easy way to check though, open firefox, edit->preferences->advanced->network->Settings  Set to No proxy and then see if it works
[09:05] <Alocer> lol
[09:05] <Alocer> yes
[09:05] <pleb22> yeah did that
[09:05] <pleb22> nada
[09:06] <Alocer> i have no cards to show you
[09:06] <kunji> pleb22: Mmmk, shouldn't be misconfiged proxy settings then
[09:06] <Alocer> pleb22, R u living in iran ?
[09:07] <pleb22> lol
[09:07] <pleb22> nor china
[09:07] <pleb22> NZ
[09:07] <Alocer> :P
[09:07] <pleb22> host connects as well
[09:07] <pleb22> so annoying
[09:07] <Alocer> idk sry
[09:07] <pleb22> dev box, so its holding me up now... grr
[09:08] <pleb22> ok next test, is another vm on the same bridged network!
[09:08] <Alocer> try creating another profile with network manager
[09:08] <kunji> pleb22: Messed up route table sending traffic going different places over other interfaces?  Does route look okay to you?  I don't want you posting your public ip on here though, so remember to change anything to x.x.x.x if needed before pastebinning it, if needed.  I'm stabbing in the dark at this point though -_-
[09:08] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 ... when i try to connect to windoze 7 ics ... ics is showing a conflicting IP Addy ... i don't have an IP on this ubuntu lan that would cause that
[09:10] <Tex_Nick> :( sorry i don't kids do
[09:10] <ibqn> my wifi has stopped working after one more low quality update on a lenovo s10-3t laptop, I am not able to fix it(((
[09:11] <pleb22> ibqn: bummer dude
[09:12] <Halite> I plan to make a web development designer - how can I make a multiline rich textbox in Glade Designer
[09:12] <kunji> ibqn: Hmm, I've got that laptop, it might be something the firmware can change that is (as far as I know) only accessible from windows.
[09:14]  * Halite hate Windows
[09:14]  * Halite falls in love with Ubuntu
[09:14] <ibqn> kunji, what is accessible from windows?
[09:14] <kunji> ibqn: You've checked the hardware switch right?  Then in Windows that comes on it, using the fn+f5 toggles the wireless in firmware (this is the part I don't know how to access from linux).
[09:14]  * Halite has a baby with Ubuntu
[09:15] <ibqn> kunji, it was working well
[09:15] <Halite> I plan to make a web development kit - how can I make a multiline rich textbox in Glade Designer for the HTML
[09:15] <ibqn> kunji, and fn buttons still work as well
[09:16] <kunji> ibqn: And windows hasn't been booted since?  Then it's probably not a hardware specific problem.  The buttons do work for other things, but not for that (i.e. they work for volume, brightness, etc.. )
[09:17] <Tex_Nick> Halite:  this channel is not for programming support ... try ##programming :)
[09:17] <kunji> ibqn: Ok, hmm, the wireless won't work at all?  Are you using the network manager, or have you swapped it for something else?
[09:17] <Halite> where was that ubuntu development channel again
[09:17] <Halite> was it ##ubuntu-development
[09:17] <Halite> ##ubuntu-devel-kit
[09:18] <kunji> Halite: Hmm, actually does glade have it's own channel?  It's a pretty specific topic.
[09:18] <ibqn> kunji, it seems to work but I am not able to establish any connection any more
[09:18] <Halite> ##glade
[09:19] <ibqn> it just disconnects
[09:19] <Halite> #glade
[09:19] <Tex_Nick> Halite: sounds like you're referring to the channel for ubuntu development team
[09:19] <Alocer> pleb22, what happend fixed ?
[09:21] <patrycjusz> anyone can help me with my question ? witch is better for personal use, vagrant of ubuntu instalation from scratch on VirtualBox
[09:21] <kunji> ibqn: Ah, then we get to look at all kinds of things.  Check for errors in /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/syslog that are related to the wireless.  Also pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file, (or describe the setting you're using to connect if you're using network manager).  Also describe the network you're trying to connect to, (Open, WPA, WEP, WPA2, needs a signed cert, etc... ).
[09:23] <kunji> ibqn: Oh, also the output of lspci just in case they used more than one kind of wireless card in this model.  By the way, if it's the same as the one in mine, using it as an access point and in the other modes actually works really well.
[09:24] <pleb22> Alocer: Nah, all VM's are broken :(
[09:24] <pleb22> must be vmware bridged connection broke
[09:24] <pleb22> going to get a box of tissues
[09:24] <pleb22> cause thats sad
[09:24] <kunji> pleb22: Hmm, have you tried a reboot yet, it might fix it.
[09:25] <pleb22> theres a thought
[09:25] <pleb22> But my wife is watching a movie
[09:25] <pleb22> and would get upset at me
[09:25] <pleb22> haha
[09:26] <pleb22> Argo
[09:26] <pleb22> not bad
[09:26] <kunji> pleb22: lol, is it eating all the bandwidth, that could be the problem, after all, I doubt the host is doing any QOS.
[09:27] <pleb22> actually, thats probably it.... I half shutdown earlier today, and cancelled the shutdown. Probably got to killing vmwares networking service lol
[09:27] <pleb22> nah, we do this all the time.. Netgear N600
[09:27] <pleb22> reasonably beafy
[09:28] <kunji> pleb22: Ah, ok, I was thinking you were routing the video through the host or something, I've been looking at linux based routing stuff too much recently :P
[09:28] <pleb22> oh I am
[09:29] <pleb22> but not from linux
[09:29] <pleb22> host is serving that
[09:29] <kepler> kunji: http://goo.gl/6XGsz with pfsense
[09:29] <kepler> then http://goo.gl/E7jCe for a WAP
[09:30] <zetheroo> Has anyone successfully embedded audio into a PDF in Ubuntu?
[09:30] <kunji> kepler: That's a really convenient one having the two wired NICs
[09:30] <kepler> yeah, i picked one up a couple months ago
[09:30] <dydzEz2> is there anyway to get a true actual resolution picture of my grub that is shown when im booting my pc
[09:30] <dydzEz2> cuz god id spend 500 bucks easy and send that to a graphics designer for some sick images
[09:31] <kepler> small and quiet
[09:31] <kepler> fanless, so it just sits there
[09:31] <kunji> zetheroo: Personally I think embedded audio in a pdf is a travesty... haven't tried it.
[09:32] <kunji> dydzEz2: There should be, have you read the docs yet?
[09:32] <kunji> !grub2 | dydzEz2
[09:33] <kunji> dydzEz2: The second link goes to pretty good documentation for pretty much everything it can do (follow any further links from there).
[09:33] <dydzEz2> thanks
[09:42] <isasha_> Hiya. Can anyone help me change permissions for a hdd that doesn't let me write?
[09:42] <kunji> isasha_: Maybe, is it NTFS?
[09:43] <Tex_Nick> dydzEz2:  pc tutorial videos often show th pc starting up, with clear video ... what they usually do is connect the video of the computer that is starting to a video capture card on another pc
[09:43] <isasha_> possibly
[09:43] <isasha_> it may be even mac-os x journaled
[09:43] <dydzEz2> video capture card hmm
[09:44] <dydzEz2> tex_nick is newegg a good site for those
[09:44] <kunji> isasha_: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l  and let me which device you think this drive is (you can probably tell from the size).
[09:44] <kunji> *let me know..
[09:44] <Tex_Nick> dydzEz2:  yes !!! best source imho :)
[09:44] <FnorZ> anybody has experience with gaming keyboards under ubuntu/linux?
[09:45] <kunji> FnorZ: Umm, I've got one, I haven't tried using any of the special stuff though (aka macros)
[09:45] <FnorZ> kunji, thats exactly what my question was aiming for :O
[09:46] <isasha_> kunji: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632467/
[09:46] <isasha_> it's the /dev/sdc one
[09:46] <Tex_Nick> dydzEz2:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=video+capture&x=0&y=0  ... you'll need ti filter that list cause there are over 700 devices
[09:47] <dydzEz2> ths needs to be worked on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Themes
[09:47] <FnorZ> i seek a gaming keyboard with which i can use the billions of special keys under linux
[09:47] <kunji> FnorZ: My guess is that it depends how much is done on the keyboard itself (if it stores the macros on it's own there) or if it's done through the driver or what.
[09:47] <Axio> Hi, I tried to install 3.8 kernel on ubuntu 12.04, but it breaks lirc (I need to test the latest kernel to confirm a bug). When I try to restart lirc it, in the terminal it hangs forever and I can't kill it. What should I do?
[09:47] <FnorZ> kunji, yep, thats a point
[09:47] <FnorZ> the latter one would be the more OS dependent one
[09:47] <Threepwood> Axio: "kill -9" can't kill it?
[09:48] <Axio> Threepwood: nope it can't kill it
[09:48] <sencha> 12.04 is really freaking nice.
[09:48] <sencha> the only thing I wish Unity had was a pager
[09:49] <isasha_> kunji ?
[09:49] <theadmin> sencha: Pager?
[09:49] <kunji> isasha_: Oh, it's using gpt instead of just MBR, run sudo parted -l   I should probably start telling people to use that off the bat these days instead of fdisk.
[09:49] <eni> how do i see my intel hd 4000 has the right drivers installed? When i was scrolling on a browser it was "crashing" and top told me xorg was eating 70% cpu
[09:50] <kunji> isasha_: Considering how many more gpt drives we're seeing with Win8 out
[09:50] <sencha> theadmin, yeah, like the workspace switcher, but not with 3d effects
[09:50] <sencha> theadmin, a pager just shows all the desktops and you can click on them individually to bring them up
[09:50] <Threepwood> Axio: is it a zombie process or a really active one?
[09:50] <theadmin> sencha: Oh. I thought you were refering to a program like less or more
[09:50] <Axio> Threepwood: I have no idea
[09:51] <melty> lol
[09:51] <isasha_> kunji: I'm pretty sure I didn't touch windows 8 with a 10 foot pole & that hard drive :P
[09:51] <sencha> oh, my fonts are a little blurry too
[09:51] <isasha_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632475/
[09:51] <sencha> I've tried install gnome-tweak-tools and changing the hinting, but they're still kinda blurry compared to my old slackware install
[09:51] <sencha> plus they're "fatter"
[09:51] <kunji> eni: Hmm, I think with modprobe, but you could have the right ones installed and still be having problems.  So you should check the x logs in /var/log for error messages etc..
[09:51] <kunji> isasha_: Doesn't have to be win8 though, that's just the cause for my seeing so many lately
[09:52] <Axio> Threepwood: right now I am on 3.5 on 12.04, lirc works fine. How come it stops working with 3.8?
[09:52] <isasha_> kunji: oh well. So what do I do?
[09:52] <kunji> isasha_: Pastebin that other command for me,  sudo parted -l
[09:52] <eni> kunji, where exactly in var log?
[09:52] <isasha_> kunji: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632475/
[09:53] <Threepwood> Axio: I have no idea, I am not a kernel expert, just thought it is strange you couldn't kill the process
[09:53] <kunji> eni: Any of the logs with an x in the name I think, the one with the 0 as well has the most recent logs I think
[09:55] <kunji> isasha_: huh, that's weird, nothing under File System.  Are you running a GUI?  If so, try using gparted.  Install it with sudo apt-get install gparted
[09:56] <eni> kunji, it looks fairly ok to me
[09:56] <dydzEz2> vmware doesnt load grub, does virtual box by oracle load grub?
[09:56] <kunji> isasha_: Or we can just go ahead and try mounting it as ntfs and see if it works.  NTFS is usually my first bet when people are having trouble with permissions on drives(because it does not respect posix permissions).
[09:56] <dydzEz2> oh it does, i remember
[09:57] <isasha_> kunji: well the drive is already mounted... btw, installing gparted now
[09:57] <eni> kunji, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632484/
[09:57] <eni> kunji, Xorg.0.log
[09:59] <Arvendu> Helllo guys
[09:59] <isasha_> kunji: it's hfs+
[10:00] <kunji> eni:Is this the boot it failed on still?  Or have you rebooted since?  Maybe check the older logs if you have any.
[10:00] <Arvendu> need some help guys
[10:00] <kunji> isasha_: Oh... mac drive
[10:00] <isasha_> indeed
[10:00] <isasha_> please don't lecture me
[10:00] <julian__> hi everyone. i've recently installed ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop (toshiba satellite pro l500-1t1), and everything just worked fine, including changing the display brightness. then after the first upgrades (just ran the update manager), the display brightness seems is not changed anymore when using the hotkeys, even though the notification still pops up. i've tried various methods i've read on the forums, none of them worked. is there
[10:00] <julian__> anything i can do to fix or troubleshoot this?
[10:01] <kunji> isasha_: Sorry, I have no idea what your knowledge is on any particular topic
[10:01] <kunji> isasha_: In that case it should be respecting normal posix permissions though, so it's a matter of setting them with chmod I would think
[10:01] <Arvendu> which ubuntu version is best for my laptop config 2GB Ram and C2D proce
[10:02] <kunji> Arvendu: I would probably go with Lubuntu on that, I think it would handle standard Ubuntu, but it wouldn't be as snappy.
[10:04] <Arvendu> k but i already have windows in c drive can i install ubuntu in D drive ?
[10:06] <kunji> Arvendu: Absolutely, make sure to move out any data you need to keep first though :P  (I'm assuming D drive is an HD and not a cdrom, floppy, or the like, though installing to external HDs works as well).
[10:06] <kunji> Arvendu: Or even to usb drives, though they aren't made for the sort of file access operating systems do, so using one for that could shorten it's life considerably.
[10:07] <Arvendu> yea  ofc ...:P and what about License validity @ kunji
[10:07] <kamil> cześć
[10:07] <kamil> Hi
[10:07] <kunji> Arvendu: What license validity?  That is, what license?
[10:08] <kamil>   
[10:08] <zetheroo> kunji: I ask because my Dad does this with Acrobat Pro and I have not yet found anything for Linux that does this
[10:08] <Arvendu> like windows have 30 days free trail somthing like that ?
[10:08] <Tex_Nick> Arvendu:  linux/ubuntu is open source ... nope no trials :)
[10:09] <rasin> hi guys, ive got a laptop with no cd drive, and i've not got a usb pen drive, but am running ubuntu 12.10 but i would like to do a fresh install. is there any other way I can do it? I have the .iso..
[10:09] <Arvendu> tx then downloadin start 12.04
[10:09] <kunji> Arvendu: Ah, Ubuntu uses an open source license (I forget which one though), but it's completely free, you can use it basically as you wish.
[10:09] <Arvendu> which one is better 12.04 or 12.10 ..
[10:09] <kunji> Arvendu: Umm, one thing to be careful of is if you live in a country that bans the import of encryption algorithms.
[10:10] <kunji> Arvendu: Neither is better per se, they have different purposes.
[10:10] <MonkeyDust> Arvendu  12.04 has longer support, but they're both good
[10:10] <kunji> Arvendu: 12.04 is an LTS release, so it will  generally be more stable, and it will be supported for I think 5 years
[10:10] <Arvendu> i just want to use for basic purpose ...like surfing watching videos etc
[10:11] <kunji> Arvendu: 12.10 is the newer version, and it not LTS, so I think it is supported for 2 years (I might be remembering wrong though).  There is a new release every 6 months.
[10:11] <kunji> Arvendu: And a new LTS (Long Term Support) release every 2 years.
[10:12] <dydzEz2> !grub
[10:12] <Arvendu> but i do not want mess like crap windows 8 :( thats why i am asking :D which is good 12.04 or 12.10
[10:12] <kunji> Arvendu: They're both good ^_^
[10:12] <Arvendu> then let me try 12.10 :D
[10:13] <Arvendu> will mine wifi and other driver will automatically install ?
[10:13] <kunji> Arvendu: Usually, there are some cases where they do not, but they work out of the box on like 95% of the hardware I try these days.
[10:14] <kunji> Arvendu: Wireless is what people have trouble with most often
[10:14] <Threepwood> Arvendu: you can also try it via the live CD, I think
[10:14] <Arvendu> yea
[10:14] <Arvendu> i have dell 1525
[10:14] <Arvendu> which is a bit older
[10:15] <Tex_Nick> Arvendu:  you'll need to decide on a 32 or 64 bit version ... guess you have already looked at ... http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[10:15] <Arvendu> yes i am downloading 32 bit or i386 iso
[10:15] <Arvendu> ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso
[10:22] <Umair> Hi guys!
[10:25] <Tex_Nick> Umair : hello ... ask your question
[10:26] <Guest93646> Can I resize the root partition which  without uninstalling and reinstalling Linux (or losing data)?
[10:26] <Umair> Tex_Nick: I'm upto fresh Ubuntu 12.10 install on VM and need to set it up for Python dev so what should my next steps be? I need Python 2.7 with PyPy and VirtualEnv
[10:28] <sumit_> hi
[10:28] <Tex_Nick> Umair:  sorry i can't answer that question ... now that you've asked though ... maybe someone can help you :-)
[10:29] <troulouliou_dev> hi i have a script to redirect command outut to /dev/null like this    LOG=/dev/null && my_command >> $LOG, what value can i aasign to LOG to redirect it on screen
[10:30] <troulouliou_dev> >> 1 maybe ?
[10:30] <Kagliostro> hi everyone guys. I am running ubuntu 12.04 on ASUS P8z77-v with intel i7. Everything runs smoothly and it is a really good distro, however my sound is crackling all the time....very noisy...
[10:30] <Kagliostro> can someone help me?
[10:32] <dydzEz2> anyone run ubuntu on vmware
[10:32] <dydzEz2> know how to make grub show
[10:35] <Halite> Is there a channel for Ubuntu Quickly
[10:35] <Halite> let me try #quickly
[10:36] <ikonia> ubuntu quickly ?
[10:36] <uni4dfx> Is there a way to list all 32bit installed packages?
[10:37] <Umair> Tex_Nick: no worries let me try again with another question
[10:37] <Ben64> uni4dfx: "dpkg -l | grep 386" ?
[10:37] <Umair> So on ubuntu 12.10 after "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" how to install build-essentials so I may proceed to pyhton and its tools
[10:38] <uni4dfx> Ben64 yeah that works. thanks!
[10:38] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install build-essential :|
[10:39] <cscsaba> hello
[10:39] <Umair> Ben64: it gives me dependency error (dpkg needed but it is not going to be installed)
[10:39] <cscsaba> is there any good tablet to use Ubuntu and its command line ?
[10:40] <Ben64> Umair: then your system seems pretty broken
[10:43] <Umair> Ben64: yeah. see I just downloaded ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso from their site and installed it without installing any third-party software on VitualBox
[10:43] <Umair> what I don't understand is which of my step broke it?
[10:43] <piglit> how can i list everything that is in the PATH ?
[10:44] <kepler> env
[10:46] <ubuntu__> Can I resize the root partition without uninstalling and reinstalling Linux (or losing data)?
[10:47] <Halite> halp
[10:48] <Halite> #quickly is not in use
[10:49] <ZeXx86> I dont understand, why Ubuntu still offer 310 nvidia driver instead of 313 and its even in experimental
[10:49] <Halite> How can you hibernate a computer running Ubuntu
[10:50] <llutz> piglit:  ls -l  $(echo $PATH|sed 's/:/ /g')
[10:50] <Umair> Ben64: So how can I fix broken packages there?
[10:50] <Halite> !patience
[10:51] <Halite> How can you hibernate a computer running Ubuntu
[10:52] <Dead-i> Halite: There's a documentation article on it https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[10:53] <piglit> llutz thank you
[10:53] <piglit> when i want to use my usb port for a microcontroller flash device i get libusb:error [op_open] libusb couldn't open USB device /dev/bus/usb/003/002: Permission denied.  i need to change the permisions of the device what is the best way to do this?
[10:56] <humans63> !list
[10:59] <llutz> piglit: create an udev-rule to set gid/permissions
[11:00] <humans63> !lista
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> humans63  stop
[11:00] <llutz> piglit: like done here, adjust to your situation http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1985915
[11:06] <jeyem> hi im new to ubuntu, just want to ask something
[11:06] <ikonia> jeyem: just ask
[11:07] <jeyem> i have a lenovo think pad, i tried installing the new VMw are and i did try everything in the ubuntu forums but i still get the message that my system doesnt support 64x
[11:10] <ranxi_> hello i have a problem with my graphic card. I am totally new to ubuntu. I was trying to install the proper ati drivers and it looks like i totally screwed up. Now i can't see my desktop. Going into terminal and this channel have been all i could do.
[11:11] <M4573R> .
[11:14] <M4573R> can i have" ntfs" partitions beside "ext4" partitions in gnu/linux?
[11:14] <theadmin> M4573R: Sure
[11:15] <theadmin> M4573R: You can't install to NTFS or FAT though (needs to be a UNIX filesystem), but you can access about any filesystem imaginable
[11:15] <theadmin> ranxi_: sudo apt-get remove fglrx\*
[11:15] <theadmin> ranxi_: That will roll you back to the default driver
[11:16] <jeyem> question admin, is there a way to install the new VMware even if my system doesnt support 64x
[11:16] <theadmin> jeyem: I dunno about VMWare. Why not use Virtualbox? It works fine on 32-bit systems.
[11:16] <ranxi_> can i do these without quitting irc?
[11:16] <kunji> ranxi: What did you do to try and install them?
[11:16] <theadmin> ranxi_: uh, sure, don't see why not
[11:17] <jeyem> i did but the backtrack linux distro doesnt have an image in virtualbox
[11:17] <M4573R> ...which is better?   (i mean for best performance  ) erase all my disk and change file system to "ext4"  or keep 2 partitions "ntfs" beside ?
[11:17] <theadmin> jeyem: Don't need one, just grab the ISO and boot the Virtualbox VM from it
[11:18] <kunji> ranxi: Can you view this page someplace?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/206228/compiz-has-broken-after-installing-12-10-with-ati-catalyst-12-10-drivers  If so, follow the directions for Uninstalling the ATI driver, assuming it was installed.
[11:18] <jeyem> thanks bro
[11:18] <theadmin> M4573R: ext4 performs better than NTFS for sure.
[11:19] <ranxi_> kunji: actually i have tried everything i have found on the issue. Including creating my debpackage which i have downloaded atis website.
[11:19] <M4573R> so you suggest ext4 file system for all disk?
[11:19] <kunji> ranxi: So your graphics is probably it really bad shape, so REMOVE the proprietary driver.
[11:20] <theadmin> M4573R: Depends on other things really. Does the disk need to be readable by Windows?
[11:20] <Umair> how to fix broken system packages on 12.10?
[11:20] <ranxi_> theadmin: how can i do this?
[11:20] <fatima> hello can anyone help me please?
[11:20] <theadmin> ranxi_: Just enter the command into any terminal you can access
[11:20] <Alocer> sudo apt-get install -f
[11:21] <ranxi_> kunji: and how should i do this?
[11:21] <Umair> Alocer: it says 2 no upgraded
[11:21] <kunji> ranxi: I linked the site, under the header Uninstall ATI driver,   sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fgl..... etc..
[11:22] <Alocer> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:22] <M4573R> no i don't want to have windows!
[11:22] <fatima> I'm trying to enter the world f Ubuntu for the first time and I instaled it on an Asus A6, but now I'm not able to have wireless. Can Anyone help me?
[11:22] <Umair> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded
[11:22] <ranxi_> kunji: ok thanks. I am trying now.
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | fatima start here
[11:22] <Alocer> :X why wireless on ubuntu is to trouble some
[11:22] <Alocer> so*
[11:23] <jeyem> admin last question, my laptop uses a broadcom driver and i found out many of us are having problems in regards to wifi connection, we get disconnected every 20 - 30 mins. in the forums the ask us to change the router from N to b or g but nothing changes we still get disconnected
[11:23] <Umair> Alocer: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded
[11:23] <Umair> with update and upgrade
[11:23] <Alocer> ok sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:23] <M4573R> theadmin           .....i don't want to have windows ........i want just instal gnu/linux
[11:23] <theadmin> jeyem: Huh. I had no such problems with broadcom drivers... Dunno
[11:23] <kunji> ranxi: Also, one of the methods you tried may have been a working method, but may have failed because of changes made by things you had already tried that didn't work.  So for this kind of thing, try only one thing at a time, and make sure to undo everything before trying then next one.
[11:23] <theadmin> M4573R: Okay, then just make the whole drive ext4
[11:23] <jeyem> oh ok
[11:24] <theadmin> M4573R: Well, actually, better go for two ext4 partitions (/ and /home) and one swap.
[11:24] <M4573R> what about (/var) do you suggest ext4 for it?or something else?
[11:24] <Umair> Alocer: it's downloading those 2 missing packages
[11:24] <kunji> jeyem: Is that particular to 12.04?  Or rather the kernel in 12.04?
[11:25] <theadmin> M4573R: I don't see any reason to put /var on a separate filesystem, actually...
[11:25] <jeyem> kunji: i really dont know, tried everything i was able to read but it seems that nothing works.
[11:26] <kunji> jeyem: Were you searching for exactly your chip?
[11:26] <woo> How could I take a snapshot of my current operating system in order to restore it later?
[11:26] <jeyem> i was able to install the wireless firmware
[11:27] <Umair> Alocer: you think I'm good to do apt-get install build-essential now?
[11:27] <ranxi_> theadmin: i have tried and i received an error. It says "there are no instances of module fglrx.
[11:27] <kunji> woo: ddrescue or dd_rescue, umm, one of them is gnu ddrescue, both should work, the gnu version is a bit better.
[11:27] <opalepatrick> trying to copy windows docs from ntfs via ubuntu to external hard drive. If I drag and drop, it looks like its done the job, but plugged into a windows laptop there is just one file. I tried cp via terminal but get cp: omitting directory the one I want to copy) any ideas?
[11:27] <theadmin> opalepatrick: cp -r
[11:27] <M4573R> ok good ..............thanx
[11:27] <woo> ty kunji
[11:28] <opalepatrick> doh theadmin
[11:28] <kunji> jeyem: Right, but it's dropping, correct?
[11:28] <theadmin> ranxi_: Uh, that doesn't look like an error, more of a warning to me
[11:28] <jeyem> yes
[11:28] <theadmin> ranxi_: Try rebooting and see if it works now
[11:29] <jeyem> i tried restart the network-manager after i get disconnected, but its a fail
[11:29] <kunji> jeyem: Searching the exact device will make it much easier to find any existing bug report for the card, or if there is not one, then it is information that should be provided as part of a bug report
[11:29] <Umair> Alocer: tried installing build-essential and it's giving same error "Depends: dpkg-dev (>= 1.13.5) but it is not going to be installed"
[11:30] <jeyem> kunji: ok ill search for that. thanks bro
[11:31] <ranxi_> theadmin: alright. I hope i will be back here if it does not work.
[11:31] <woo> kunji: so apt-get install ddrescue -> dd_rescue && apt-get install gddrescue -> ddrescue.  :)
[11:31] <kunji> jeyem: You can find the device in the output of lspci for pci cards, or in lsusb for dongles
[11:32] <kunji> woo: Oh, you don't need them both, I would go with just ddrescue
[11:32] <M4573R> theadmin ........and what a bout partitions if i want to have 2 distros...is it better that i installeach of them to 1 partition ( for example:ubuntu in /sda1 and arch in /sda2)with seperate " /home"?
[11:33] <M4573R> :)
[11:33] <woo> kunji: I used apt-get autoremove ddrescue and kept the gnu
[11:33] <theadmin> M4573R: The idea is to have different / and the same /home, actually, for example: /dev/sda1 -> arch's /, /dev/sda2 -> Ubuntu's /, /dev/sda3 -> /home (for both)
[11:33] <fatima> I'm not understanding how to do it!
[11:33] <woo> kunji: im on the gnu site learning about it.
[11:34] <theadmin> M4573R: That way you can keep application configuration across distros (browser bookmarks, history, etc)
[11:34] <M4573R> ok...nice
[11:34] <kunji> woo: That would be my preferred tool, there's lots of other stuff as well though
[11:34] <kunji> !backup | woo
[11:35] <M4573R> and if i want to remove on of distros   which is better (shared home....or seperate home)?
[11:35] <khussein78> can I run two applications using X over ssh tunnel
[11:35] <khussein78> at the same time
[11:35] <kunji> khussein78: yes
[11:35] <theadmin> M4573R: Won't matter
[11:36] <fatima> I'm trying to enter the world f Ubuntu for the first time and I instaled it on an Asus A6, but now I'm not able to have wireless. Can Anyone help me? Hi really don't know how to do it
[11:36] <theadmin> M4573R: There's nothing distro-specific at all stored in /home
[11:36] <woo> kunji: im going to use kickstart and ddrescue.  If I remember last time I used kickstart on an ubuntu machine I messed it up.
[11:37] <l057c0d3r> well..  grew a pair..  resized my windows partition...  installed a ubuntu minimal install...  and installed everything i wanted..
[11:37] <l057c0d3r> finally finished :-) fully custom splash/ grub / gdm / ext ext...
[11:37] <M4573R> good for you :)
[11:38] <l057c0d3r> thanks M4573R.. i now have a fully custom setup..  looking and running everything i want....  with the power of ubuntu and apt
[11:39] <M4573R> welcome to FREE WORLD :D
[11:41] <dimitry> lolo
[11:41] <dimitry> i am here
[11:42] <M4573R> tanx "theadmin" for information....and tanx for gave me your time
[11:45] <dimitry> anybody use this chanel for conversasion? or just for testing your irc client?)))))
[11:45] <M4573R> we love to learn....we share our Knowledge....we are   LINUX       :D
[11:45] <marahin> people rather use it for answering ubuntu users / newbies questions
[11:45] <M4573R> i'm a noob too!
[11:45] <gvo> ubuntu-offtopic for discussions
[11:46] <gvo> dimitry: ^^^
[11:46] <marahin> ↑ even.
[11:46] <marahin> :)
[11:46] <Umair> no one answers my questions at fullest :(
[11:46] <marahin> Umair, try to ask it in a different way then?
[11:46] <dimitry> ok ok ok
[11:48] <Umair> let me try again. I need to install a python package which can be installed with PyPy but it gives me gcc error
[11:48] <Umair> I read I need build-essential for that but then build-essential gives me dependency errors dpkg
[11:49] <gvo> Umair: ubuntu version?
[11:49] <Umair> 12.10 (quantal) i386
[11:50] <Jpmh> I am running lubuntu from a memory stick - it tells me that it is 11:49 because I have not set the timezone, I assume.  How di I set it.  I am in Denver CO which  is on Mountaint time
[11:50] <gvo> Have you done a apt-get update recently?
[11:50] <moe> hello world
[11:50] <Umair> I have done apt-get update and upgrade like a ton times
[11:50] <Guest72577> I'm a noob looking to get help with my ubuntu 12.10
[11:51] <Guest72577> any one who can help?
[11:51] <gvo> Umair: Have you edited your sources.list?
[11:51] <Umair> I haven't edited sources.list but I have taken a look at it
[11:51] <Umair> there are links without #
[11:51] <Halite> Helloo
[11:51] <lasers> Guest72577: We're waiting for real questions.
[11:51] <martinPL> hi! I have this problem, I copied some files with command line, and they have invalid permissions - I need to change their permissions - I can list them all with "find . -type f -user username" but I dont know how to pass the result to "chmod 664 RESULTS", can you suggest me a solution for that? (btw the list is very long...)
[11:52] <Halite> I like Ubuntu
[11:52] <Guest72577> ok I have problems with libflac++6:amd64
[11:52] <gvo> Umair: As a last resort, you could use  dkpg adding --ignore-depends
[11:52] <jonah> hi can anyone help, I've just rebooted and now anytime I use sudo I get this error: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:53] <day> i installed ubuntu 12.10. after installing the restricted graphic driver + restart i get a pretty low monitor resolution + all i see is the desktop background. no docks/menues nothing. does anyone know whats wrong?
[11:53] <jonah> but as far as I know nothign else is using admin rights...
[11:53] <Guest72577> almost everything i do on terminal returns errors Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:53] <Guest72577>  libflac++6:amd64
[11:53] <theadmin> jonah: That has nothing to do with sudo... You sure you don't mean apt-get?
[11:53] <Umair> gvo: can you tell me why this is happening because ignoring depends is not a good option I think
[11:53] <gvo> Umair: But it could break something.
[11:53] <jonah> theadmin: Hi yes but I mean I can't install anything as it says something already has the admin lock
[11:54]  * Halite happy
[11:54] <gvo> Umair: I can't say for sure.   I haven't run across it, but then Im not running 12.10
[11:54] <Guest72577> lasers?
[11:54] <Umair> gvo: which version are you running?
[11:54] <day> gvo: what are you running?
[11:54] <gvo> 12.04 and 10.04
[11:54] <jonah> theadmin: also does it with aptitude, so something has locked my dpkg...
[11:54] <lasers> martinPL: With find's -exec *command* -- Maybe? Or use xargs.
[11:54] <Umair> gvo: which is better of them?
[11:55] <theadmin> jonah: Try removing that file (sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock) and then running sudo apt-get -f install
[11:55] <Guest72577> lasers?
[11:55] <day> gvo: yeah the longterm version work really well.
[11:55] <Guest72577> any one?
[11:55] <gvo> Umair: Both are lts 12.04 is newer if you replace Unity with something reasonable.
[11:55] <gvo> day yes
[11:55] <Guest72577> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:55] <Guest72577>  libflac++6:amd64
[11:56] <Guest72577> that's my problem
[11:56] <Guest72577> what do i do?
[11:56] <Umair> I will try 12.04 now then
[11:56] <gvo> Umair: If you plan on running it for a while stay with an lts.  It's supported for 5 years (12.04 is)
[11:56] <yeehaw> Guest72577: Could you paste the complete log?
[11:56] <Guest72577> ok
[11:57] <yeehaw> Guest72577:  Via paste.ubuntu.com
[11:57] <kunji> martinPL: Are all the files in one folder?
[11:57] <Umair> yeah. I'm likely to use it for a while
[11:57] <day> i installed ubuntu 12.10. after installing the restricted graphic driver + restart i get a pretty low monitor resolution + all i see is the desktop background. no docks/menues nothing. does anyone know whats wrong?
[11:57] <Umair> but if it works that's what I want
[11:57] <Guest72577> moe@moe-Ubuntu12:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[11:57] <Guest72577> Reading package lists... Done
[11:57] <Guest72577> Building dependency tree
[11:57] <Guest72577> Reading state information... Done
[11:57] <Guest72577> The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
[11:57] <FloodBot1> Guest72577: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:57] <Guest72577>   linux-headers-3.5.0-17
[11:58] <ikonia> Guest72577: that's not "everything you do" that's a very specific commmand
[11:58] <jonah> theadmin: hi thanks, that's got it unlocked but now when I do sudo apt-get intall phpmyadmin I get this error: error processing phpmyadmin (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1. debconf: DbDriver "templatedb": /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[11:58] <Umair> you know why Ubuntu will never compete with Mac OS X? It's because things doesn't work out of documentation like they work on Mac OS X.
[11:58] <jonah> theadmin: debconf: DbDriver "passwords" warning: /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat is locked by another process
[11:58] <ikonia> Guest72577: and PLEASE use a pastebin as you've been asked
[11:58] <yeehaw> day: Try fully updating 12.10
[11:58] <martinPL> kunji, no, the files are in a whole structure (many folders with subfolders)
[11:58] <theadmin> jonah: Well, woah. This is messed up...
[11:58] <jonah> theadmin: is that bad?
[11:58] <theadmin> jonah: Not quite sure what to do.
[11:58] <kunji> martinPL: Are they all under one top level folder though?
[11:59] <day> yeehaw: i apt-get update/upgrade the system right after the fresh install
[11:59] <theadmin> Anyway, I gotta go now.
[11:59] <jonah> theadmin: ok thanks anyway
[11:59] <kunji> martinPL: Or a few?  Because then you could run chmod recursively
[11:59] <day> did*
[11:59] <ikonia> Guest72577: you've been unmuted now
[11:59] <Halite> why are there 3 flood bots
[12:00] <ikonia> because that's how many is needed to run the channel
[12:00] <yeehaw> day: I had the same problem initially, you can use ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal an do sudo apt-get update -qq && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[12:00] <Halite> my
[12:00] <martinPL> kunji, oh, I thought of that, but I cannot use this, within the structure there are also other files that I dont want to edit - I only what to edit those of particular user
[12:00] <kunji> martinPL: Hmm, and you already have the list of file names?
[12:01] <Guest72577> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632764/
[12:01] <Guest88890> hello
[12:01] <day> yeehaw: what would that change? ive already updated everything :/
[12:01] <Guest88890> i need help
[12:01] <ikonia> Guest72577: right, so lets get some facts first
[12:01] <Guest88890> can you see this page mzt-chiwas.sytes.net
[12:01] <Guest88890> ?
[12:01] <ikonia> Guest72577: is it "every command" as you first said, or is it just when you try to use apt-get
[12:01] <ikonia> Guest88890: why ?
[12:02] <Guest88890> mmm
[12:02] <Guest72577> hold on let me try ikonia
[12:02] <Guest88890> hey
[12:02] <marahin> kunji, he said that he can list the files he need to change with find.
[12:02] <Guest88890> okey
[12:02] <Guest88890> ok
[12:02] <yeehaw> day: please post the output of the following commands to paste.ubuntu.com: dpkg -l | egrep -i 'nvidia|fglrx'
[12:02] <Guest88890> gracias
[12:02] <ikonia> Guest88890: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[12:02] <M4573R> .
[12:02] <yeehaw> day: And what videocard do you have?
[12:02] <Helmuthonian> Hi, I try to install the connman-0.78. But after running .\configure I get the dependency failed on DBUS. But aptitude gives me DBUS is installed.
[12:02] <kunji> marahin: Thanks, I missed that part
[12:02] <marahin> "I can list them all with "find . -type f -user username" but I dont know how to pass the result to "chmod 664 RESULTS""
[12:02] <day> yeehaw: nvidia gtx 660
[12:02] <marahin> kunji, np.
[12:03] <Guest88890> what is?
[12:03] <Guest88890> help
[12:03] <gvo> Helmuthonian: I suspect you're missing a development package.
[12:03] <Guest72577> it happens with apt-get
[12:04] <Helmuthonian> gvo: oooo I'll try this thanks
[12:04] <gvo> Helmuthonian: Look for a xxx-dev where xxx is the dbus lib/program that's missing.
[12:04] <kunji> martinPL:Well this isn't the best way I'm sure, but you could use sed to turn that list into a file containing lines that each say: chmod 664 filename;  Then make the file executable and run it to change the permissions.
[12:04] <ikonia> Guest72577: right, so that's a different question than what you asked
[12:05] <gvo> Helmuthonian: Usually when ./configure throws an error its a missing -dev package.
[12:05] <yeehaw> Guest72577: Did you try an apt-get update before installing?
[12:05] <Guest72577> ok how do i fix it
[12:05] <Guest72577> ?
[12:05] <Guest72577> yes i tried that
[12:05] <ikonia> Guest72577: have you run the auto-remove as the error suggested ?
[12:05] <Guest72577> yes i tried
[12:05] <martinPL> kunji, I have just tried the find -exec and it seems to work - the file list is really long so it hasnt finished yet, but no errors so far ;) thanks for the help
[12:05] <Guest72577> didnt work
[12:06] <M4573R> in gnu/linux partitioning we have /root.. /home.. /var ..  i know this... but i don;t know where should i keep  "for exmaple my musics".......in home or different seperate partition?
[12:06] <Guest88890> ikonia: Gracias!
[12:06] <ikonia> Guest72577: I don't see that in your pastebin
[12:06] <kunji> martinPL: Ah, that seems like a better way, nice ^_^
[12:06] <yeehaw> M4573R: In /home/username/
[12:06] <Guest72577> line 430
[12:07] <Helmuthonian> gvo: Thanks I install now libedbus-dev and run .\config again. Thanks for help
[12:07] <ikonia> Guest72577: ok, did you try to re-install libflac++6 as the error said
[12:07] <Guest72577> i tried too
[12:07] <Guest72577> line 392
[12:08] <gvo> Helmuthonian: By the way it's ./configure
[12:08] <gvo> ./config
[12:08] <Star_Light> Is there any person who is responsible about the rooms here?
[12:08] <gvo> No backslash
[12:08] <ikonia> Star_Light: what's the problem
[12:08] <Star_Light> ikonia I have an unfair ban from one channel
[12:08] <Star_Light> one year ago
[12:08] <ikonia> Guest72577: so try removing libflac++6:amd64 and ubuntu kernel channel
[12:08] <makara> hi. again with Nautilus, 2 things. It is possible to hide the folder pane instead of the tree pane?
[12:08] <yeehaw> Guest72577: You could try purging it, with dpkg --purge libflac++6:amd64
[12:08] <ikonia> Star_Light: if you join #ubuntu-ops we can talk about it
[12:09] <Star_Light> ok thank you
[12:09] <Guest72577> how do i remove libflac and kernel channel?
[12:09] <kunji> ikonia: I thought #freenode dealt with that stuff?
[12:09] <Star_Light> I am going to ubuntu-ops
[12:09] <ikonia> kunji: not the ubuntu channels, no
[12:09] <ikonia> Guest72577: just put them on one line for remove of purge
[12:10] <M4573R> so i should divide my Disk to these : dev/sda1/(root & boot & /var  )        dev/sda2 (home)   no needed seperate partitions for keeping our files?
[12:10] <kunji> ikonia: Generally I mean, it wasn't clear to me it was an Ubuntu channel he was talking about.
[12:10] <ikonia> kunji: me neither, but we'll find out when he joins #ubuntu-ops
[12:10] <kunji> ikonia: yeps ^_^
[12:10] <yeehaw> M4573R: What are you planning on using Ubuntu for? As a Desktop?
[12:10] <Guest72577> tried purge returns error
[12:10] <ikonia> M4573R: /root should not be a seperate partition
[12:10] <Guest72577> package is in a very bad incosistent state
[12:11] <M4573R> so what ikonia.........?
[12:11] <ikonia> Guest72577: try running it through the gui
[12:11] <ikonia> M4573R: so don't put it on a sepreate partition
[12:11] <Guest72577> which gui?
[12:11] <ikonia> Guest72577: whatever package manager gui you are using
[12:11] <Guest72577> ok thanks let me try
[12:12] <Star_Light> ikonia,  there is no one in the room :(
[12:12] <gvo> Guest72577: sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq
[12:12] <ikonia> Star_Light: try again
[12:12] <ikonia> Star_Light: yes there is, it's #ubuntu-ops
[12:12] <Guest72577> GUI cant remove it either
[12:13] <makara> and why whenever I open Nautilus does the name column always expand way off to the right. I always have to scroll and reduce
[12:14] <gvo> Guest72577: Try that
[12:14] <gvo> makara: Do you have a very long name in the list?
[12:15] <M4573R> ikonia ......... i have a disk...right? and i want to have just ubuntu(and not alongside with windows) sould i have seperated partitions for keeping  my files or this is not necessary?
[12:16] <ikonia> M4573R: totally up to you
[12:16] <ikonia> pros/cons to both
[12:16] <M4573R> which way is better?
[12:16] <Guest72577> thanks very much ikonia it worked
[12:16] <ikonia> M4573R: totally up to you
[12:16] <Guest72577> and thanks gvo
[12:16] <ikonia> Guest72577: it was gvo that helped
[12:16] <Guest72577> ok thanks both of you :)
[12:17] <yeehaw> ikonia: What cons are there to using seperate partitions? I think it would be advisable to keep /home on a separate partition at least
[12:18] <makara> gvo, kindof
[12:18] <kunji> M4573R: I would recommend it myself, for two reasons.  It can simplify backing up just your user data, and if you're installing more than one distro they can share the same /home partition.
[12:18] <wdp> yeehaw, ack.
[12:18] <ikonia> yeehaw: totally up to you
[12:18] <ikonia>  /home should not be shared between different distros
[12:18] <gvo> makara: it's doing a resize based on the length of the file name.  Rename the file.
[12:18] <ikonia> the different versions of gnome and shells in /home should not be shared
[12:19] <makara> gvo, when I go to another folder it doesn't resize the column again
[12:19] <makara> gvo, but sometimes it does. Inconsistent
[12:19] <kunji> ikonia: Oh, hmm, interesting
[12:19] <mirak> hi
[12:19] <mirak> i changed my cdrom drive, and now it seems it's referenced as /dev/cdrom1 instead of /dev/cdrom
[12:20] <disharmonic> Well the con for separate partitions is that it's harder to manage your diskspace that way.
[12:21] <gvo> makara: Sounds like a bug.
[12:21] <yeehaw> ikonia: Ok, I see your point.
[12:21] <kunji> ikonia: You mean for the same DE right?  Because for different ones I don't see how it would be different than having multiple DEs installed on one distro.
[12:21] <makara> it would be great if I could set the column size no matter what the content. I want an explorer that feels solid.
[12:22] <ikonia> kunji: doesn't have to be the de - the .profile for the shell, the .compiz directory etc etc
[12:23] <makara> trying to resize the tree pane is also a pain. The new space-saving scrollbar keeps popping up
[12:23] <kunji> ikonia: Hmm, I see what you mean
[12:23] <matlock> guys, i got ubuntu up on an eeepad
[12:23] <Jpmh> I have a running ubuntu system.  I have a working usb stick with lubuntu which seems rather good.  How do I install it side by side with my ubuntu on my hard drive?
[12:23] <matlock> but it's the SL 101, and the onboard keyboard don't work
[12:23] <matlock> any help?
[12:26] <yeehaw> matlock: If I look at the other people on the internet who have tried it, your probably out of luck. What does lsusb give you? (via paste.ubuntu.com please)
[12:27] <matlock> heh
[12:27] <matlock> can't internet on it
[12:27] <matlock> but it's just got the root hub
[12:28] <yeehaw> matlock: Do you have any information about how it's connected?
[12:28] <woo> why are static repos for fedora .gov's?
[12:28] <matlock> no clue, lshw doesn't show much either
[12:29] <matlock> doesn't even show the wifi right now..
[12:30] <matlock> tis okay, i'm on xda-developers askin the same, probably get better luck there, there are a few others with an SL101 too.
[12:30] <Guest74003> I FEEL Linux is very very Hard compared to Windows
[12:30] <bastidra1or> there is a learning curve.
[12:31] <Guest74003> That's why.If i use Windows it's not like that....All user need to learn Linux
[12:31] <woo> Guest74003: I feel Windows is a lot harder for me.  It has so many requirments to run properly
[12:31] <kunji> Guest74003: I feel you've never tried installing Windows....
[12:31] <yeehaw> matlock: http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/28379/where-are-android-drivers-located-in-the-system Says that you would probably need to recompile the keyboard driver in the kernel
[12:31] <yeehaw> matlock: You will probably need help from xda-developers indeed then
[12:31] <Malinuss> "next - next - next " - windows installed
[12:32] <Guest74003> i have installed windows serveral times
[12:32] <kunji> Malinuss:And it wrote over your MBR without asking
[12:32] <F1skr> Do you people use a ppa to install catalyst drivers or do just get it from amd.com ?
[12:32] <kunji> Malinuss:And that's assuming you didn't need some other driver
[12:32] <matlock> hmm, i wonder if there's anything to the Linux4Tegra associated with this then.. thx for the thread man!!
[12:33] <kunji> F1skr: I typically use the driver in the repos, unless there was a security fix, or some particular reason I should use a newer driver than that.
[12:34] <woo> I had a problem I didnt fix today took someone eles.  new asrock board. win couldnt read ssd raid 1. fedo 18 popped right up :)  sorry for the ot.  Guest74003 might want to try ubuntu-offtopic for more windows bashing fun.
[12:35] <Guest74003> And Linux is really Confusing and Boring since all the end-user need to know all
[12:36] <OerHeks> Guest74003 do you have an ubuntu support question ?
[12:37] <kunji> OerHeks: Even if he does, he's intentionally trolling (my opinion, but quite likely).
[12:37] <yeehaw> Guest74003: Untrue, If you configure it properly everyone could work with Ubuntu
 what to configure
[12:37] <kunji> Guest74003: My grandma uses Ubuntu
 O^o
[12:38] <16WAAEUPB> My grandma uses AIX.
[12:38] <kunji> Guest74003: Only configuring I had to do was enlarge the mouse cursor so she could see it better.
[12:38] <woo> kunji: http://garbledzombie.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/your-grandma-can-do-it/linux-motivational-poster/
[12:39] <kunji> woo: That site isn't loading for me T.T
[12:39] <woo> :(
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:40] <kunji> woo: Ah, there it goes ^_^
[12:40] <Guest74003> my bro work all day in ubuntu dev s/w some point in time got some cash from US Govt ...For me Where to Start ?!
[12:40] <matlock> just wondering, can i pull the modules from the source of the android kernel and compile it for ubuntu?
[12:40] <kunji> Guest74003: Sounds like you should ask your bro
 I thought this a open chat room ...Who will help beginners
[12:42] <yeehaw> matlock: I'm no developer, but it should be possible. I think you would have dependency problems because of different versions e.g..
[12:42] <matlock> kay
[12:42] <mand_> Hi, how can I remove entries from the Unity launcher? Somehow it imported old gnome panel custom launchers during upgrade and now is too stupid to keep them apart
[12:42] <kunji> Guest74003: It is, but you should really have a particular question in mind.  I would say it's more of a support channel than open chat, open chat would be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:42] <woo> Guest74003: try #freenode to set up your username and password for IRC
[12:42] <mand_> eg. I start a gnome terminal and it thinks I started a custom vnc session
[12:43] <mand_> Just because my custom VNC launcher also uses Gnome terminal
[12:43] <Guest74003> :)
[12:43] <16WAAEUPB> I believe that Android uses a forked Linux kernel and I'm not really sure they're fully compatible at all.
[12:44] <kunji> matlock: Why would you want to do that?  It's possible, but the devices would be ARM, so what good would compiling them amd64 or i386 do?  Unless there's a particular piece of hardware from your phone you want to use on your desktop install.
[12:44] <matlock> well Linux for Tegra uses the 12.04 filesystem, and I'm wondering if that would help me at all.. or if i'm barking up the wrong tree.
[12:44] <16WAAEUPB> 12.04 filesystem?..
[12:44] <matlock> yea.. hold on
[12:44] <16WAAEUPB> What's that supposed to mean? =)
[12:44] <matlock> https://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra
[12:44] <disharmonic> You mean ext4 by that?
[12:45] <matlock> Sample file system (derived from Ubuntu 12.04, "Precise Pangolin")
[12:45] <Guest74003> Guys where to start learning Linux ..How to work on it ??...Is there any Class ..Like that :)
[12:45] <stakt> so, I just did a typo in a chroot enviro "yum install yum install" now yum is hosed.  I went to mirror site and tried to rpm -ivh yum-3.2.29-30.el6.centos.noarch.rpm but it fails
[12:45] <kunji> matlock: Wrong tree pal
[12:45] <matlock> i know technically it's unsupported here,
[12:45] <stakt> error: yum-3.2.29-30.el6.centos.noarch.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID c105b9de: BAD
[12:45] <stakt> error: yum-3.2.29-30.el6.centos.noarch.rpm cannot be installed
[12:46] <makara> gvo, Marlin looks cool. It lays out thumbnails much better
[12:46] <kunji> matlock: I'm pretty sure they are referring to the machine you're going to use to flash the device
[12:46] <matlock> no
[12:46] <stakt> any idea on how to repair w/o rebuild the chroot?
[12:46] <kunji> matlock: Can you link it for me then?
[12:46] <matlock> they're talking about installing ubuntu on tegra devices
[12:46] <matlock> link is above, the nvidia one
[12:47] <OerHeks> stakt, try #centos
[12:47] <matlock> I know there's a driver package there too, but not sure if it includes modules specific for the eeepad (most likely not)
[12:47] <yeehaw> makara: No, they are talking about installing linux on tegra devices. They happen too use the Ubuntu filesystem, but that's not kernel related. So that would not help you with the driver
[12:47] <kunji> matlock: Oh, that, still you would not recompile for that usually.  That should be compiled for ARM, and recompiling for Ubuntu to run on that device would still be ARM
[12:47] <16WAAEUPB> matlock, they're talking about installing their own Linux flavor using a host running Ubuntu.
[12:47] <matlock> no
[12:47] <makara> yeehaw, ok
[12:47] <klaatu_> ma cosa cazzo è
[12:47] <kunji> matlock: The ubuntu team right now is also using the android kernel for ubuntu installs on devices, and hence the same modules
[12:48] <matlock> they're talking about installing ubuntu 12.04 on tegra devices, using ubuntu as the host
[12:48] <kunji> matlock: http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/13/02/07/1745220/ces-jono-bacon-talks-up-ubuntu-for-phones-video
[12:48] <yeehaw> makara: Sorry, I linked the wrong person
[12:48] <kunji> matlock: That's what I said -_-
[12:49] <matlock> 16WAAEUPB, their 'own linux flavor' is 'based on' ubuntu 12.04
[12:49] <tapas> hi, is it normal that nepomuk uses 2GiB or more disk space?
[12:50] <kunji> matlock: sure, but I'll bet they're using the android kernel, for the same reason the Ubuntu team is.  Even if not, then they're using the right one for what they're doing.
[12:51] <matlock> i'm currently using the 2.6 ubuntu kernel
[12:51] <matlock> on my eeepad
[12:51] <jimi_> Anyone know how to install ncurses php support
[12:51] <yeehaw> matlock: Can't you use the android kernel?
[12:51] <matlock> they also have the 3.1 kernel but that method isn't working correctly right now
[12:51] <kunji> matlock: Isn't the eeepad x86?
[12:51] <matlock> it's arm
[12:51] <matlock> arm7
[12:52] <iceroot> is there an easy way to see the licence of a package with apt-get?
[12:52] <kunji> matlock: Oh, ok, now I think I see what you're doing
[12:53] <kunji> matlock: I'm not sure what version of ARM the Cardhu and Ventana are, so you might need to compile yourself, but the modules should run.
[12:54] <kunji> matlock: More or less that is, there may be some device specific tweeking involved
[12:54] <datsmoida> you guys have any idea about after i upgraded ubuntu to 12.04 mysql is running properly but i cannot log in to phpmyadmin
[12:55] <theadmin> iceroot: See the answer to this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/247757/how-do-you-find-the-licenses-for-everything-installed-on-your-system
[12:55] <kunji> tapas: probably, but I don't recall for sure
[12:55] <theadmin> iceroot: Not too "easy" but... yeah.
[12:56] <disharmonic> iceroot: well apt-cache doesn't display licensing info. Not sure if there is a way
[12:56] <OerHeks> iceroot " apt-cache show python " does not show license info, so i think apt-get won't show either
[12:56] <16WAAEUPB> datsmoida, I'd start with checking the place where phpmyadmin stores it's authentication data.
[12:57] <theadmin> iceroot: The license info for installed packages can generally be found in /usr/share/doc/PACKAGE/copyright
[12:57] <OerHeks> iceroot,  "The Debian control file has no field for a license title. License details for a package foo should be given in the /usr/share/doc/<foo>/copyright file" found @ http://askubuntu.com/questions/88403/how-to-list-all-my-packages-from-command-line-which-can-show-package-name-licen
[12:58] <OerHeks> should be fixed, if you ask me
[12:58] <kunji> iceroot: License info is often in the man page as well
[12:58] <jonah> hi does anyone know what the correct path syntax is for testing on a localhost. For example I have a website with a config.php file which I want to test locally. I've changed all refereneces to the site addrress to just be 'localhost' and then further down it has paths such as /home/public_html/system which I've tried changing to just be /system and also tried localhost/system but at the moment I'm just getting a white blank screen so
[12:58] <jonah> defo got something wrong
[12:58] <theadmin> iceroot: If that's of any help, the "vrms" tool can help detect any non-free software installed on your system.
[12:58] <disharmonic> OerHeks: i agree, it should be included in apt-cache showpkg
[12:59] <iceroot> kunji: i need a generic way for all installed packages to see if they are GNU related to find out how much GNU/Linux is in Ubuntu :) i guess i will write a script to parse the local files
[12:59] <iceroot> so that we will see x% of all installed default packages are GNU
[13:00] <kunji> iceroot: Ah regexs and sed?  Fun times
[13:00] <arand> iceroot: You can use the "cupt" package manager instead, "cupt copyright packagename".
[13:00] <iceroot> kunji: because of that i asked for an easy way with apt-get and so on :)
[13:00] <iceroot> arand: thanks that sounds interesting
[13:01] <kunji> iceroot: Hmm, which do you count as a default system?  With or without the checkbox for the nonfree packages?
[13:01] <iceroot> kunji: a default ubuntu 12.04 unity installation
[13:01] <16WAAEUPB> Or you could write your own package manager! Now this is fun times.
[13:02] <kunji> iceroot: Yeah, but they ask during the install, also about encryption and lvm, so I think you can end up with a few different sets of packages.
[13:03] <iceroot> kunji: that is not a default installation
[13:03] <iceroot> kunji: imo
[13:03] <arand> iceroot: I wouldn't suggest using cupt for normal package management though, but it's handy for that prticular thing.
[13:03] <kunji> iceroot: Maybe the livecd is a better reference?
[13:03] <Guest74003> Only some new Linux in my Area.It's very hard if i get Stuck
[13:03] <iceroot> kunji: but normally i guess the best would be to grep the complete main-repo
[13:03] <iceroot> arand: i think so too
[13:04] <Malinuss> hello. So I installed ubuntu "mini". And after that I installed the gnome-desktop, or was it unity-desktop? I don't remember, neverless, it looks completly like the "normal" ubunut installation. Now, is there actually any software that isn't installed there, that is installed with the normal ubuntu installation?
[13:04] <iceroot> Malinuss: depending which package you installed for your desktop, if it was ubuntu-desktop  you will have the same packages as a normal installation
[13:05] <Malinuss> iceroot, I think it might have been ubuntu-desktop. So right now, my installation is precisly the same, as if I just used the "normal" installation?
[13:05] <iceroot> Malinuss: yes
[13:06] <Malinuss> I see, thanks
[13:06] <iceroot> Malinuss: the normal installation is "ubuntu-minimal", "ubuntu-base" and "ubuntu-desktop"
[13:06] <iceroot> Malinuss: you are missing ubuntu-desktop on the minimal-installation
[13:07] <iceroot> Malinuss: maybe minimal will be not using ubuntu-base  but ubuntu-desktop will pull that package, so its the same at the end
[13:11] <GermainZ|Phone> Hey guys, I'm having a few issues... Not sure why, probably some drivers issues. Most Fn keys have no effect (e.g. Keyboard illumination, brightness), others show popups correctly (e.g. Sound) but don't actually do anything... (sound and brightness are always locked to the max, for example). Any ideas?
[13:11] <lersch> Question. I am using open() to create a file and posix_fallocate() to allocate 8GB in this file. When the file is created, it says the size is 8.6 GB. I do not understand why the difference. Any ideas?
[13:12] <jimi_> lersch, because _fallocate is short for fallacy create
[13:13] <lersch> what do you mean?
[13:13] <jimi_> lersch, it was a joke.... "fallacy" meaning lie.... and well... create meaning create..... lol, because the output lied to you :P
[13:13] <lersch> british humor, I see
[13:14] <lersch> :)
[13:15] <ioria> lersch: from the latin 'fallacius' :-P
[13:16] <theadmin> lersch: This isn't an Ubuntu question, this is a question for whatever programming language you are using.
[13:21] <isaias> hi
[13:22] <isaias> How do I login?
[13:23] <isaias> is this supposed to automatically log me in?
[13:23] <GermainZ|Phone> Login where, isaias
[13:23] <MusikPolice> Hi guys, quick question here if anybody is available: I installed ubuntu 12.10 LTS headless server and then installed the unity desktop as a secondary step. It seems to have given me a minimal install, and the clock and indicator applets in the top-right hand corner of the desktop are missing. What packages do i need to restore this functionality?
[13:23] <isaias> GermainZ|Phone: On here. I can't seem to join ##c++
[13:24] <GermainZ|Phone>  /join ##c++
[13:24] <isaias> GermainZ|Phone: It sends me to ##overflow
[13:25] <GermainZ|Phone> Any errors?
[13:25] <ioria> isaias: i think it requires registration
[13:25] <pranav> when i use sensors in bash, it gives me 2 adapter. virtual and ISA adapter. what is the difference ?
[13:25] <GermainZ|Phone> If you're already registered (/msg NickServ HELP REGISTER)...
[13:26] <GermainZ|Phone> Oh, you're not. Use that command, then.
[13:26] <isaias> ioria: I already registered I was connected there a few days ago
[13:26] <arand> iceroot: I gave the cupt suggestion with examples on askubuntu as well.
[13:26] <GermainZ|Phone> Are you identified, then?
[13:26] <khussein78> I tried to run vbox over X tunnel over ssh but i got this error
[13:26] <isaias> GermainZ|Phone: what do you mean?
[13:26] <GermainZ|Phone> Use this command: /msg NickServ HELP IDENTIFY
[13:26] <khussein78> http://pastebin.com/YKBKcFvf
[13:27] <pranav> when i use sensors in bash, it gives me 2 adapter. virtual and ISA adapter. what is the difference ?
[13:29] <isaias> GermainZ|Phone: thank you!
[13:29] <GermainZ|Phone> You're welcome! Usually this kind of support is better asked at #help, btw.
[13:29] <pranav> i used to add many stuffs in gnome top panel by right clicking and "add to panel" but does unity lacks this feature. there is a menu instead ?
[13:30] <MusikPolice> pranav i'm having that problem as well
[13:30] <Malinuss> iceroot, okay, thanks for the clearing up. One last thing - so after installing the minimal installation, but I want the "desktop ubuntu" look, without all the software. How would I go about that? Install gnome and what more?
[13:30] <theadmin> pranav: There's no such functionality in Unity, yes, applets are deprecated by GNOME3 in general. If you want functionality similar to GNOME 2, I suggest using Xubuntu (or just installing Xfce)
[13:31] <MusikPolice> Malinuss: I've selectively installed the packages that I need, but also found a helpful guide here http://debianhelp.wordpress.com/2012/09/30/to-do-list-after-installing-ubuntu-12-10-aka-quantal-quetzal/
[13:31] <GermainZ|Phone> (reposting because a bunch of new people logged in) [15:11] (GermainZ|Phone) Hey guys, I'm having a few issues... Not sure why, probably some drivers issues. Most Fn keys have no effect (e.g. Keyboard illumination, brightness), others show popups correctly (e.g. Sound) but don't actually do anything... (sound and brightness are always locked to the max, for example). Any ideas?
[13:31] <MusikPolice> theadmin: what about the clock and widgets that appear in the top right-hand corner of a stock install? I've done a stripped down install of the desktop, and those weren't included
[13:31] <pranav> theadmin: MusikPolice hope it comes the next version :)
[13:31] <theadmin> pranav: Will not.
[13:32] <theadmin> pranav: The GNOME team got rid of applets because they want to provide simplicity and beleive too many options confuse users... and probably because  they smoke something really strong, too :/
[13:32] <theadmin> pranav: Just use Xfce, it's great and looks and works almost exactly like gnome2
[13:33] <pranav> but then again the left panel in unity is so useful for stacking many icons
[13:33] <MusikPolice> theadmin, pravnav: sounds about right. but there are some applets up there. not application specific, but for network, battery, the user menu etc. what package is that in?
[13:33] <GermainZ|Phone> You can do the same in xfce
[13:33] <arand> theadmin: It's pretty easy to add custom applets via extensions though.
[13:33] <GermainZ|Phone> You need to add a desk bar panel if I'm not mistaken
[13:33] <theadmin> MusikPolice: Look at the packages starting with "indicator-" for those. For instance, the clock is indicator-datetime
[13:33] <MusikPolice> i basically just want my clock back, and the logout/shutdown buttons
[13:34] <MusikPolice> theadmin: thank you, i'll look into those
[13:34] <pranav> theadmin: "indicator-" ok :)
[13:34] <pranav> will also try xfce desktop again..
[13:35] <pokkerface> hi all, could anyone got working sopcast or maze in ubuntu 12.10?
[13:35] <theadmin> pranav: Those still don't provide the exact same functionality as gnome2 applets. Seriously, for a similar feel, just use Xfce. I'll shut up now though because I already said that 3 times and feel like I'm being annoying
[13:35] <Em_> I just installed Ubuntu 12.10, but my Wireless and Ethernet are port are not working. What am I supposed to do now?
[13:36] <pranav> theadmin: i was a fan of lightweight xfce like 3 years before. i will try it. thanks again :)
[13:36] <theadmin> pranav: :) There's a version of Ubuntu that comes with Xfce preinstalled, it's called Xubuntu -- works great for me, it's the one I use. Took a while to get U1 working on Xfce though but I got that as well :)
[13:38] <pranav> theadmin: yup, xubuntu was the only option for me back with 256MB ram :P
[13:38] <theadmin> pranav: Ouch, that sounds pretty evil
[13:38] <GermainZ|Phone> I have xubuntu with 8gb of ram
[13:38] <GermainZ|Phone> =O
[13:38] <theadmin> GermainZ|Phone: Heh, 6 here.
[13:42] <pranav> GermainZ|Phone:  i can't wait to see the functionalities. *installing* =)
[13:42] <Em_> I just installed Ubuntu 12.10, but my Wireless and Ethernet are port are not working. What am I supposed to do now?
[13:44] <TrolLlet> Hey everyone.. i have a question.. is there any way to start windows from within ubuntu? then i do NOT mean special programs or virtual boxing.. i mean to BOOT windows from within ubuntu itself?
[13:44] <Gr0tB4gz> anybody know the release date for the ubuntu phone software?'
[13:45] <GermainZ|Phone> October I think
[13:45] <war59312> anyone have any ideas for why usb mouse and keyboard not working even though both show up in lsusb and both work if I use a live cd...
[13:45] <pranav> don't you guys think that "launcher" in unity is quicker to navigate then "cairo-dock" in gnome ? views any.. i mean using the touchpad..
[13:45] <Guest21939> ciao
[13:45] <Em_> I just installed Ubuntu 12.10, but my Wireless and Ethernet are port are not working. What am I supposed to do now?
[13:45] <Guest21939> !LIST
[13:46] <arand> TrolLlet: You can set the default grub selection for next boot, if that's waht you mean?
[13:47] <pranav> don't you guys think that "launcher" in unity is quicker to navigate then "cairo-dock" in gnome using touchpad ? *any views* ?
[13:47] <TrolLlet> then that means i need to manually reboot?
[13:47] <Gr0tB4gz> anyone have any idea if the ubuntu phone software will work with samsung galaxy s3??
[13:47] <Jpmh> how would I install lubuntu side by side with ubuntu on my hard drive.  It looks good from the memory stick but would like to try the next step before final switch
[13:48] <TrolLlet> and then it changes to windows instead of ubuntu? (that does sound like something im thinking of)
[13:48] <pranav> and for a widescreen, its just too good :D
[13:49] <Sagitt> hi all
[13:49] <Sagitt> there is a way to automatic install all avviable updates with crontab or other??
[13:50] <bean> Sagitt, that's usually a bad idea, imo
[13:50] <Sagitt> why?
[13:50] <Sagitt> i've isntalled only the OS and some packages
[13:50] <cfhowlett> !phone|Gr0tB4gz,
[13:50] <llutz> !info apticron | Sagitt
[13:51] <Sagitt> good
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, install lubuntu.  then install ubuntu-desktop.
[13:51] <GermainZ|Phone> (reposting because a bunch of new people logged in) [15:11] (GermainZ|Phone) Hey guys, I'm having a few issues... Not sure why, probably some drivers issues. Most Fn keys have no effect (e.g. Keyboard illumination, brightness), others show popups correctly (e.g. Sound) but don't actually do anything... (sound and brightness are always locked to the max, for example). Any ideas?
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, or go the other way.  on login you can choose which desktop environment to boot.
[13:51] <theadmin> Sagitt: See the unattended-upgrades package, as well as /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades.
[13:52] <Sagitt> theadmin: so i've to delete // befor updates etc?
[13:52] <Jpmh> cfhowlett: I really want to leave my computer the way it is first, but test lubuntu - then if ok I will install
[13:53] <theadmin> Sagitt: Read the comments in the file, they explain everything quite nicely.
[13:54] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, ok.  use virtualbox to test other distros.
[13:54] <woo> I sftp'd into a server I am trying to run ddrescue and make the output > sftp://user@192.168.1.2/home/user.  But it seems that sftp is mounted eleswhere.  Can anyone help me locate the exact mount point of an sftp?
[13:54] <arand> TrolLlet: Yeah, see grub-set-default(8), I'm not sure you need to enable something in the grub cfg before that as well...
[13:54] <pranav> theadmin: hey, you told that there is this vertical stacking navigator in xfce as well, what should i install for it ?
[13:54] <TrolLlet> arand: thx for help.. was exactly what i was searching for
[13:55] <GermainZ|Phone_> Right click a panel, add new panel, choose deskbar
[13:55] <GermainZ|Phone_> @pranav
[13:55] <Jpmh> cfhowlett: too slow - is there some way I can install side-by-side like I cam install side-by-side with windoze
[13:55] <TrolLlet> arand: would i be going to install windows first then ubuntu or ubuntu first?
[13:56] <Dmnchild> If when setting up partitions, I mount them as /home/username/ would that limit the user to the space of that partition?
[13:57] <arand> TrolLlet: For a dual boot, it's better to install windows first (in almost all cases)
[13:57] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, as I said, easiest way is to install one OS, the add the meta packages of the other.  when finished, just purge the one you don't want.  OR, install in an extended partition i.e. "side by side"
[13:57] <TrolLlet> arand: Thank you!
[13:58] <Jpmh> cfhowlett: but that will not be a complete lubuntu install
[13:58] <theadmin> pranav: That's a part of Unity, I'm afraid it doesn't exist in Xfce. But, xfce4-panel provices similar functionality. You can configure the "Window Buttons" applet to not display window titles, for instance, and add a few launchers. Also, you can use docky, cairo-dock etc to get similar functionality as well
[13:59] <Gr0tB4gz> [@ubottu] thanks 4 that
[14:00] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, false.  apt-get install lubuntu-desktop will add the lubuntu core to your pre-existing OS ... all packages and apps and artwork will be present
[14:00] <pranav> theadmin: doing..
[14:00] <Jpmh> cfhowlett: but if for example one has an older kernel than the other?
[14:02] <MusikPolice> theadmin: thank you for your earlier help, i managed to get my applets back by installing the indicator-* packages that you recommended
[14:02] <pranav> MusikPolice: which did you install, CPU graph, temperature ?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, I'd advise running all updates and upgrades on your present OS first.  If booting the other OS causes a Kernel conflict, boot an earlier kernel.  FYI:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:02] <MusikPolice> theadmin: just a note though that the network indicator is broken somehow. it disabled all of my network interfaces and i had to manually re-enable them. i wouldn't recommend it to a new user
[14:02] <MusikPolice> pranav: i added sound, clock, and user I think
[14:03] <theadmin> MusikPolice: That's not exactly true, but yes, NetworkManager overrides most command-line-style configurations.
[14:03] <pranav> MusikPolice: those were there in my unity already
[14:04] <Jpmh> cfhowlett: ok - but whyy can't I install two linuxes if I can install linux and windoze?
[14:04] <MusikPolice> pranav: my situation is a bit different. i started with a headless server install and then added a barebones unity desktop. nice because you don't get any bloatware, but annoying because some of what i would consider *core* features are missing
[14:05] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, you can!  note that you can only use 4 mbr partitions on a mbr computer .... efi is different.
[14:06] <llutz> cfhowlett: "gpt is different" you also can use gpt on mbr/bios computers
[14:06] <cfhowlett> llutz, noted.  please advise jpmh on his project?
[14:07] <Jpmh> cfhowlett: ok - so how do  I do it, since the installer does not give me the choice,
[14:08] <llutz> Jpmh: do manual partitioning, its no problem to have several linux-installations parallel. you just have to decide which bootmanager you want to have into the MBR
[14:08] <pranav> MusikPolice: nice. did u also tried LXDE (open box) hehe
[14:09] <Jpmh> llutz: perfect ty
[14:09] <guang_> after i run command 'lsusb | grep -i 'bluetooth',it does not return anything.does it mean there is no bluetooth adapter on my notebook?
[14:09] <Em_> Help. I was connected to the internet during the installation of Ubuntu. After completing the installation process and restarting my laptop, my Wireless adapter seems to be malfunctioning. Mozilla Firefox can't connect to any website even though it' is connected. I tried pinging a website, doesn't work either. The connection to my router always gets disconnected but when I'm in windows, which I'm currently using, it doesn't.
[14:10] <funch> Jpmh with a note that you can have linux on extended partition but windows will work on physical partition only, when you get into partitioning
[14:10] <matlock> actually
[14:10] <matlock> you can run windows from an img file
[14:10] <Jpmh> funch: ty - and windoze is long since gone anywy
[14:11] <BluesKaj> BBL
[14:11] <matlock> actually it's a vhd file
[14:11] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, and all of the partition/mbr/gpt/extended stuff is precisely why I installed lxde into my Ubuntustudio.  I can switch at will and/or purge lxde when I want
[14:11] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, but that's just me.  YMMV
[14:12] <Jpmh> cfhowlett: ty so much
[14:12] <cfhowlett> Jpmh, best of luck
[14:13] <ThinkT510> cfhowlett: what does your choice of desktop environment have to do with partitioning?
[14:13] <woo> can I output dd to a sftp server?
[14:14] <ThinkT510> cfhowlett: ahh, sorry, i just understood what you mean
[14:14] <llutz> woo: does it need to be sftp or would ssh do?
[14:14] <ThinkT510> cfhowlett: rather than having to partition a new install
[14:14] <t0ntin> Hi, all! I'm trying to install skype, and get this error message in the software center: Not found. There isn’t a software package called “file:” in your current software sources.  Any ideas?
[14:15] <Malinuss> so now I have both gnome, and unity installed. I'm out in the login screen. How do I change to gnome?
[14:15] <woo> llutz: I can use ssh to talk to the host but I only know sftp for file trasnfer.  yes ssh port is open
[14:15] <llutz> woo: dd if=/dev/sda | ssh user@server 'dd of=sda.img'
[14:15] <kwifi> hi there, i am running ubuntu 12.04 gnome, I need to adjust my wifi-antenna on my boat and need a acoustic signal strength meter. I used kwifimanager before but it seems it not available anymore? Is there a other program I can use?
[14:16] <ThinkT510> Malinuss: the login screen should have a little logo, click the logo in the top right to pick your desktop environment
[14:16] <stroodlepup> how do you install libreoffice 4 in ubuntu?
[14:16] <Malinuss> ThinkT510, sigh... thanks..
[14:16] <Em_> Help. I was connected to the internet during the installation of Ubuntu. After completing the installation process and restarting my laptop, my Wireless adapter seems to be malfunctioning. Mozilla Firefox can't connect to any website even though it' is connected. I tried pinging a website, doesn't work either. The connection to my router always gets disconnected but when I'm in windows, which I'm currently using, it doesn't.
[14:16] <ThinkT510> stroodlepup: whats wrong with the version in the repo?
[14:17] <woo> llutz: checking...
[14:17] <parshant> how i will setup ec2 API and AMI tools on server
[14:17] <llutz> woo: or to do that from local machine: ssh user@server 'dd if=/dev/sda' | dd of=sda.img              (servers /dev/sda -> local sda.img)
[14:17] <alimj> woo: Either use llutz solution or install & use SSHFS
[14:17] <pranav> theadmin: yes, docky works fine with my need. :)
[14:17] <matlock> and really, you don't even need to repartition to install windows
[14:18] <matlock> except for to make a small partition for bcd
[14:18] <parshant> how
[14:18] <matlock> chain load that from grub
[14:18] <matlock> then install win on a vhd
[14:19] <woo> llutz: the client is trasfering to the server
[14:19] <matlock> i got a vhd that i can copy to my hdd and basically it's like reinstalling windows
[14:19] <parshant> purpose of client in UEC environment
[14:20] <woo> llutz: alright I have a sda.img on the server side too
[14:20] <llutz> woo: as used in 1st example.
[14:20] <woo> llutz: yes worked very well.  Thanks!
[14:20] <parshant> how to use keys after extracting credentials
[14:21] <parshant> hello
[14:21] <cfhowlett> parshant, greetings
[14:22] <parshant> what is purpose of client in UEC environment
[14:23] <kwifi> bump
[14:25] <Em_> Help. I was connected to the internet during the installation of Ubuntu. After completing the installation process and restarting my laptop, my Wireless adapter seems to be malfunctioning. Mozilla Firefox can't connect to any website even though it' is connected. I tried pinging a website, doesn't work either. The connection to my router always gets disconnected but when I'm in windows, which I'm currently using, it doesn't.
[14:25] <Umair> all: is there an official apt-get search engine?
[14:26] <ikonia> Em_: worth looking at your dns settings
[14:26] <jrib> Umair: you don't want to use "apt-cache search"?
[14:26] <Umair> I was thinking if there is some search engine website
[14:26] <ikonia> search for what ?
[14:26] <jrib> Umair: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[14:27] <chiliblue> alacart keeps crashing on my when I try and add a new item.
[14:27] <Umair> jrib: so I can find anything here which I can install with apt-get install package right?
[14:28] <ikonia> Umair: no, that is s list of packages
[14:28] <ikonia> that does not mean all are available for installation/compatability with your current distro version
[14:28] <jrib> Umair: it searches ubuntu's official repositories. I don't see why one would not use apt-cache search to search all of their enabled repositories instead
[14:28] <MusikPolice> Em_: try sudo ifconfig from the terminal, see if your wireless adaptor is getting an ip address
[14:28] <janisozaur> hi, i (dis)connect my webcam pretty often, every time i do that, i have to select my camera's mic. is it possible to have PA select it whenever it is connected?
[14:28] <Umair> jrib: you're right
[14:29] <MusikPolice> Em_: you can reset your wireless adaptor with sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup wlan0
[14:29] <Umair> but does it guarantee to search everything?
[14:29] <MusikPolice> Em_: if that doesn't work, check if there's a hardware switch on your laptop that is disabling the adaptor.
[14:29] <Umair> or just cached ones?
[14:29] <ikonia> Umair: apt-cache will search everything that is in your current repo
[14:29] <Umair> thanks got it
[14:30] <cfhowlett> Umair, is there a specific package you're seeking?
[14:30] <Umair> I was looking for how python and python-dev are different
[14:31] <ikonia> Umair: one contains the binaries, the other the devlopment info, such as headers
[14:31] <ikonia> hence the name -dev
[14:32] <Umair> you know when I installed pypy which is python package and then Scrapy by pypy, I read it requires python-dev
[14:32] <ikonia> so ?
[14:32] <ikonia> the dependency checker within the package manager/packages will handle that
[14:32] <Umair> I'm currently testing this myself but not sure if that's true. It makes me think why this would need dev version whereas this is just for dev stuff
[14:33] <chiliblue> my alacarte issue seems to be python related too. is there any known issues with alacarte that I have missed
[14:33] <parshant> how to install euca2ools
[14:33] <ikonia> chiliblue: check launchpad.net for bug reports of known issues
[14:33] <ikonia> parshant: is that an ubuntu package /
[14:33] <ikonia> ?
[14:33] <parshant> yes
[14:33] <ikonia> parshant: open pakage manager, find package, click install
[14:34] <parshant> sudo apt get install euca2ools
[14:34] <plaYer2k> hello everyone :3
[14:34] <parshant> where is package manager
[14:34] <plaYer2k> iam looking for someone who could help me with configuring WizardPen under ubuntu 12.04
[14:35] <ikonia> parshant: I sugest you read https://help.ubuntu.com to learn the basics of using the desktop
[14:35] <Umair> how can I check if I have python-dev installed or not? I can check python is installed by checking its version
[14:35] <ikonia> Umair: why does it matter ? just install the package you want, and it will auto install the dependencies that are missing
[14:36] <theadmin> Umair: You can do "sudo apt-get install python-dev" and see if  that installs anything...
[14:36] <parshant> no euca2ools package is found,
[14:36] <ikonia> parshant: then it's not an ubuntu package
[14:36] <Umair> I installed Scrapy and because it depends on Twisted which it tried to install and failed with gcc code 1
[14:36] <theadmin> !info euca2ools | ikonia, parshant
[14:36] <ikonia> Umair: how did you install scrappy
[14:37] <ikonia> parshant: there you go, then the package is there
[14:37] <Umair> pip install Scrapy. but under virtualenv
[14:37] <theadmin> parshant: Run "sudo apt-get update" then, sounds like you're missing package lists
[14:37] <ikonia> Umair: pip ?
[14:37] <Umair> pypy is a package manager for python
[14:37] <ikonia> Umair: right, so that's no the ubuntu package manager
[14:37] <Umair> pip is command for pypy
[14:37] <ikonia> Umair: so it won't be aware of any ubuntu packages
[14:38] <Umair> are you sure?
[14:38] <Umair> it requires Python to run
[14:38] <ikonia> Umair: does it deal with .deb packages ?
[14:38] <ikonia> Umair: reuquiring python to run, does not make it a deb package manager intergrated into the ubuntu package system
[14:38] <Umair> I'm not sure if it deals with .deb
[14:39] <ikonia> Umair: then it won't be aware of ubuntu packages
[14:39] <theadmin> ikonia: It's not a deb package manager, it installs python "packages" which are basically sets of python modules
[14:39] <ikonia> theadmin: which makes sense
[14:39] <theadmin> ikonia: Yep.
[14:39] <woo> llutz: :) this is going to take a really long time over wifi huh?
[14:39] <Umair> right
[14:40] <llutz> woo: sure, depends on the image-size. imageing wihtout gbit-network is a pita
[14:40] <Umair> so when it says it failed with gcc code 1 it doesn't mean it will be solved by installing python-dev
[14:40] <ikonia> Umair: it means it's trying to compile something, hence gcc
[14:40] <woo> llutz: to safely exit dd its crtl+c?
[14:40] <llutz> woo: yes
[14:40] <woo> ty | llutz
[14:41] <Umair> there is a chance compilation would need python-dev?
[14:41] <ikonia> very likley
[14:41] <ThinkT510> woo: i don't think interupting dd can be called safe
[14:41] <Umair> so is there a way I can check if a particular package is installed already?
[14:42] <jrib> Umair: apt-cache policy
[14:42] <jrib> !apt | Umair
[14:42] <ikonia> Umair: dpkg -l | grep python-dev
[14:42] <ikonia> Umair: or just try to install it...see if it installs
[14:42] <Umair> it just installed
[14:43] <Umair> how can I fix this gcc error?
[14:43] <woo> ThinkT510: I don't like using 802.11 for large transfers.  was lazy at the beginning to not get up.  so... but I understand
[14:43] <ikonia> Umair: depends on the error, fix the dependencies, or the code
[14:44] <akyama> alow
[14:44] <NetFlam> Hi all!
[14:46] <phoenixsampras> help!! how to dvd rip a DVD?
[14:46] <ikonia> !dvd | phoenixsampras
[14:46] <ikonia> phoenixsampras: check up on https://help.ubuntu.com for the basics of using multimedia tools
[14:47] <theadmin> phoenixsampras: There are numerous tools for this in the repos, the easiest one to use is probably k9copy
[14:47] <phoenixsampras> theadmin: and for gnome?
[14:48] <cfhowlett> phoenixsampras, also look into #ubuntustudio
[14:48] <theadmin> phoenixsampras: There are handbrake, dvd::rip and so on. But you can install k9copy in a gnome environment as well, nothing to stop you from doing that. I just don't find others intuitive/easy to use.
[14:48] <akyama> @hackernewbie
[14:48] <ikonia> akyama: ?
[14:50] <war59312> my crazy adventure of 2013: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2112820 Hope that helps soemone who runs into the same thing. Google tells me there are lots of people having this issue since as far as 2011. Ugh!
[14:51] <phoenixsampras> what about AdicdRip?
[14:52] <Umair> thanks guys
[14:52] <STMelon> Thoggen DVD Ripper
[14:52] <Umair> I figured why gcc error was there. It was libxml2-dev and libxslt1-dev
[14:52] <Umair> btw what these modules do
[14:52] <woo> llutz: & ThinkT510: it wasn't safe
[14:53] <ikonia> Umair: what do you mean, what do they do ?
[14:53] <war59312> how to mark a thread solved on the forums? i must be blind..
[14:53] <Umair> what are their functions
[14:54] <llutz> woo: ?
[14:54] <war59312> yea blind.. hhaha funny how that happens.. its under thread tools
[14:54] <woo> llutz: networking locked up on the ssh
[14:54] <ikonia> Umair: they put xml and xslt compatability in
[14:54] <woo> llutz: client side
[14:55] <llutz> woo: kill the ssh-session
[14:57] <woo> llutz: its gone
[14:57] <war59312> anyone here great at mounting via rc.local.. having trouble getting a raid5 array to mount.. works fine in fstab...
[14:58] <war59312> fstab entry is: #RAID5 UUID=8210E37910E37319  /media/RAID  ntfs-3g  noauto,rw,user,owner,uid=1000,gid=1000  0  0 #NFS /media/RAID/Boxee       /export/users   none    noauto,bind     0       0
[14:58] <scratchy_> Yay
[14:58] <scratchy_> A chatbox :)
[14:58] <scratchy_> Hi everybody
[14:58] <scratchy_> How you guys doing today
[14:58] <scratchy_> Its been like a decade since ive been on IRC
[14:58] <war59312> welcome back
[14:59] <scratchy_> But today's technology and social media is kinda forcing me back into my old ways
[14:59] <scratchy_> I need a little freshning up course though
[14:59] <scratchy_> XD
[14:59] <woo> llutz: should assign sudo +i before the dd.  Glich between the sudo and server authorization
[14:59] <cfhowlett> scratchy_, greetings.  this channel's focus is ubuntu support.  What are your questions?
[15:00] <scratchy_> Well, my question is the following, Just installed ubuntu on a laptop with some GPU troubles
[15:00] <llutz> woo yes
[15:00] <akyama> @indonesianbacktrack.or.id
[15:00] <llutz> woo:or just:  sudo dd if=/dev/sda | ssh user@server 'dd of=sda.img'
[15:00] <woo> llutz: can I script pws into the script??
[15:00] <scratchy_> do you have any advice for me to install my desktop system with the least possible graphical resources
[15:00] <scratchy_> like a text only system
[15:01] <llutz> woo: no, ssh won't take passwords from commandline (without hacks)
[15:01] <cfhowlett> scratchy_, what kind of problems are you having???
[15:01] <scratchy_> Well I blew out my 3d graphics acceleration a while ago on this awesome laptop. Still works fine with text though
[15:02] <scratchy_> So i want to use ubuntu again to up my linux skills, so dont really need the graphical desktop
[15:02] <scratchy_> is there a way to deinstall it and still use ubuntu to the fullest ?
[15:02] <cfhowlett> scratchy_, you installed ubuntu12.04
[15:02] <cfhowlett> ?
[15:03] <scratchy_> yeah, should I have installed another version ?
[15:03] <ThinkT510> !mini | scratchy_
[15:03] <scratchy_> problem is when I go into the graphical desktop too long
[15:03] <scratchy_> it just locks up
[15:03] <scratchy_> ok Cool Thanks Ubottu
[15:03] <Umair> all: http://instacod.es
[15:03] <scratchy_> One more question for you awesome support guys
[15:04] <scratchy_> Is there a channel where I can talk linux and ubuntu without having questions
[15:04] <scratchy_> I mean like just topical chat
[15:04] <cfhowlett> scratchy_, ubuntu 12.04 has unity which requires a gpu.  Not sure but I think perhaps lxde or xfce desktop interfaces less and MIGHT fly with a hobbled gpu
[15:04] <ThinkT510> scratchy_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:04] <war59312> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb2 /media/RAID   NOT working but no error either.. ugh!
[15:04] <scratchy_> ok kewl :)
[15:04] <cfhowlett> scratchy_, best of luck
[15:04] <scratchy_> Yeah I was thinking of installing gentoo
[15:05] <scratchy_> but then I remembered the hassle with the USE enviro's
[15:05] <scratchy_> so kinda dont wanna go through that again lol
[15:05] <scratchy_> So maybe a minimal install of ubuntu would do the trick
[15:05] <r_a_f> unity is only a candy - not require to anything
[15:05] <STMelon> scratchy_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[15:05] <cfhowlett> scratchy_, if you can get a command line, try sudo apt-get xfce && sudo apt-get install lxde    then logout, login and choose one or the other to test
[15:06] <scratchy_> is xfce still out there ?
[15:06] <scratchy_> awesome :)
[15:06] <scratchy_> Ok Thanks for the tip...Im gonna try it out
[15:06] <scratchy_> Keep up the good work
[15:07]  * war59312 feels dumb..... sudo mount.ntfs-3g /dev/sdb2 /media/RAID works just fine :)
[15:07] <STMelon> The basic steps to install Ubuntu Server Edition from CD or USB stick are the same for installing any operating system. Unlike the desktop version, Ubuntu Server does not include a graphical installation program. Instead the Server Edition uses a console menu-based process.
[15:08] <scratchy_> STMelon, Will I still be able to use the full function of Ubuntu...Lynx for Web and ehr I need somekind Mailing program...
[15:08] <scratchy_> oh and access to the cloud would be nice
[15:08] <cfhowlett> scratchy_, evolution handles mail nicely
[15:09] <STMelon> most likely yes, i havnt installed ubun tu server, its all cli though, no DE
[15:09] <cfhowlett> !ubuntuone|scratchy_
[15:09] <scratchy_> Well, I got some extra time right now :) My boss wont be back for hours ;)
[15:09] <dedunu> you should install DE tp
[15:09] <dedunu> use GUI
[15:09] <scratchy_> Ill install the server edition and let you guys know how it went
[15:10] <dedunu> hey
[15:10] <dedunu> scratchy
[15:10] <scratchy_> hey
[15:10] <dedunu> you can download minimal ISO
[15:10] <scratchy_> Dedunu :)
[15:10] <dedunu> and then
[15:10] <dedunu> install DE
[15:10] <dedunu> it will save few megabytes
[15:10] <cfhowlett> !minimal|scratchy_
[15:10] <scratchy_> ok minimal
[15:10] <scratchy_> :)
[15:10] <dedunu> bcz server contains
[15:10] <scratchy_> like my techno that sounds good
[15:11] <dedunu> few packages apache mysql php
[15:11] <dedunu> which you really don't need
[15:11] <scratchy_> just the basic lamp server ?
[15:11] <dedunu> yeah
[15:11] <dedunu> with dns
[15:11] <dedunu> blah blah
[15:11] <scratchy_> yeah not planning much with running servers
[15:11] <dedunu> openssh
[15:11] <war59312> ok so sudo mount.ntfs-3g -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/sdb2 /media/RAID  is perfect :)
[15:11] <dedunu> then download minimal
[15:11] <scratchy_> Just need my battery to last and my GPU not to be working
[15:11] <scratchy_> Just need my battery to last and my GPU not to be working
[15:12] <dedunu> ok
[15:12] <dedunu> use minal
[15:12] <scratchy_> Thanks dedunu
[15:12] <dedunu> welcome
[15:12] <STMelon> you could always try xubuntu scratchy_ : http://xubuntu.org/
[15:12] <dedunu> yeah
[15:13] <STMelon> minimal gives you alot more control as to what is installed though
[15:13] <dedunu> xubuntu is a lightweight one
[15:13] <dedunu> with xfce
[15:13] <SamuelOPH> There's Lubuntu too, with LXDE
[15:13] <dedunu> 12.10
[15:13] <dedunu> i had a problem
[15:13] <SamuelOPH> But I prefer XFCE
[15:13] <dedunu> with memory
[15:13] <dedunu> then i installed xfce
[15:14] <war59312> is rc.local really the best place for me to be mounting network drives... fstab is a no no.. don't want it print text on bootup that it cant access them.. text is still print even if using the _netdev option.
[15:14] <dedunu> it reduced memry consumtion 3gb to .5 gb
[15:14] <dedunu> its really cool
[15:14] <scratchy_> Yeah its a dualcore msi laptop and I used it for years, just because I got this little 3d acceleration problem would be wasteful to buy a new laptop
[15:14] <SamuelOPH> Yep, I'm using XFCE here
[15:19] <rikica> the esyest way to master shell ..any  ideas :)
[15:21] <Umair> rikica: by doing it :)
[15:21] <userid01> hello
[15:22] <mand_> Is there a way to make windows not span over multiple viewports?
[15:22] <rikica> umair ..swet and read ..but wher to start ..i ment ..free links ..or e-books
[15:22] <Malinuss> so right now I have a "minimal" ubuntu installed. How would I go around installing and starting the XFCE DE? I can't find the package name..
[15:22] <ThinkT510> rikica: perhaps better asked in #bash
[15:23] <mand_> Malinuss: install xubuntu-desktop
[15:23] <derbie> Hello. Any German native speaker online?
[15:23] <lnx-e> hello every one
[15:23] <cfhowlett> !de|derbie,
[15:23] <derbie> Thank you
[15:23] <IdleOne> derbie: tell thrawed to try harder when he helps.
[15:24] <xangua> Malinuss: still with that...really you should just download a normal desktop iso
[15:24] <cfhowlett> lnx-e, greetings
[15:24] <Malinuss> xangua, just playing around :)
[15:24] <Malinuss> mand_, thanks, isn't that more or less the same as lubuntu?
[15:24] <lnx-e> i need help about display configration
[15:24] <lnx-e> xorg.conf or smth
[15:24] <dedunu> malinuss it is very light one
[15:25] <cfhowlett> !details|lnx-e,
[15:25] <dedunu> bit different than ubuntu desktop i mean terminal blah bla
[15:25] <ThinkT510> !xorgconf | lnx-e
[15:25] <lnx-e> i have 3 monitor system
[15:25] <Seagull> hello everyone! May I ask a little dummy question about Broadcom network adapter configuration? To be specific -- I have installed wrong drivers using b43-fwcutter and don't know how get rid of them
[15:25] <dedunu> but you can do everything with it
[15:25] <lnx-e> choosing 1 monitor default
[15:25] <Malinuss> dedunu, are you talking about xubuntu or lubuntu?
[15:25] <derbie> IdleOne: :-)
[15:25] <dedunu> any
[15:26] <dedunu> Malinuss kernal is ubuntu one but DESKTOP enviroment have set of native tools
[15:26] <dedunu> they make a difference in UX
[15:26] <dedunu> user expericen
[15:26] <cfhowlett> Seagull, I take it you manually installed those
[15:26] <cfhowlett> ?
[15:26] <lnx-e> i need to choose default one monitor (center one) all opengl games are opening  left one (sorry aboout my english :))
[15:27] <lnx-e> im using ubuntu 12.10
[15:27] <lnx-e> im new
[15:27] <dedunu> lnx-e you can take display settings and setup your monitors
[15:27] <cfhowlett> lnx-e, what is your first language?
[15:28] <lnx-e> turkish
[15:28] <lnx-e> im from istanbul
[15:28] <Seagull> cfhowlett yes. I found manual, at http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=239922 but I should install another driver
[15:28] <lnx-e> my setup is ok .... 3 monitors ok
[15:28] <lnx-e> but i just wanted to set default
[15:29] <cfhowlett> Seagull, slow down.  what is your broadcom chip? 43**???
[15:29] <lnx-e> i have ati hd 6850
[15:30] <Malinuss> and how do I start the GUI again?
[15:30] <lnx-e> in display manager i couldnt find "make default" button line
[15:30] <Seagull> cfhowlett, BCM43228 . and i'v installed b43 instead of broadcom-wl
[15:31] <cfhowlett> Seagull, additional drivers didn't pick up the broadcom for you?
[15:31] <dedunu> Malinuss try startx ?
[15:31] <Malinuss> k
[15:32] <dedunu> I never tried it just asked ok
[15:32] <dedunu> ?
[15:32] <HenrikJ>  
[15:32] <Seagull> cfhowlett, If i understand you, additionl drivers is a GUI tool? I haven't any GUI installed. just a little console server.
[15:33] <cfhowlett> Seagull, I'm pretty sure if you just do the broadcom Linux STA driver, it will overwrite the previous driver.  However, you could apt-purge the previous driver if you wih
[15:33] <cfhowlett> Seagull, understood.
[15:33] <phoenixsampras> im a dvd ripper... wohoo
[15:34] <dedunu> Malinuss did it work?
[15:34] <cfhowlett> Seagull, so I think the process would be to install the Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA and see if that fixes things.  If not, then purge the previous driver and reboot and try again.
[15:34] <Malinuss> dedunu, the installation isn
[15:34] <Malinuss> 't quiet finished
[15:34] <dedunu> ok
[15:34] <dedunu> tell me update ;_
[15:34] <dedunu> ;)
[15:34] <Malinuss> I will hehe
[15:35] <bat_> Hi, I have samba running and I would like to start/stop it at will. But the command 'sudo service smdb stop' doesn't stop it (I know it thanks to nmap). Is this normal ?
[15:36] <ioria> bat_ : service smbd, i think
[15:36] <Malinuss> dedunu, "failed to load sesion "gnome" "
[15:37] <dedunu> what is the DE you isntalled frnd
[15:37] <dedunu> ??
[15:37] <bat_> ioria: I tried service smbd stop and it doesn't work
[15:37] <Seagull> cfhowlett, sorry one thing else. You said purge drivers. I am trying to ask how? Their wasn't installed by apt-get . I'v unpacked them using b43-fwcutter. (Sorry if i'm dumb)
[15:37] <dedunu> i think it only work for GNOME
[15:37] <Malinuss> dedunu, I installed the lubuntu-core
[15:38] <dedunu> Malinuss wait a but
[15:38] <ioria> bat_ : sorry, but you wrote : service sm - db
[15:38] <dedunu> bit
[15:38] <cfhowlett> Seagull, you installed the driver with dpkg -i , no?  the inverse would be dpkg -remove I think ...
[15:38] <SamuelOPH> bat_; try it with samba isntead of smbd
[15:38] <cfhowlett> Seagull, and you're not dumb
[15:38] <dedunu> malinuss try thisexec startlxde
[15:38] <dedunu> exec startlxde
[15:39] <Seagull> cfhowlett, as I'v found by google-ing I must delete all unnecessary drivers
[15:39] <dedunu> or startlxde
[15:39] <xangua> Malinuss: you can download the desktop iso of lubuntu at lubuntu.net
[15:39] <bat_> ioria: (ho sorry I mis-typed it, i meant 'smbd')
[15:39] <OerHeks> bat_,  what does sudo service smbd status  tell you ?
[15:39] <dedunu> xangua he already have installed core
[15:39] <xangua> .....
[15:39] <dedunu> xangua now its better to install DE
[15:39] <dedunu> isnt it?
[15:40] <SamuelOPH> bat_; try #service samba stop
[15:40] <Malinuss> xangua, I have core installed,  I just don't know how to start the GUI :=
[15:40] <bat__> re
[15:40] <dedunu> Malinuss didn't it work?
[15:40] <dedunu> :(
[15:41] <dedunu> then i am not good person to help you
[15:41] <dedunu> :(
[15:41] <bat__> typing 'service samba stop' returns 'samba: unrecognized service'
[15:41] <Malinuss> dedunu, both commands are unknown
[15:41] <dedunu> oops
[15:41] <dedunu> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu
[15:41] <bat__> typing 'service smbd status' returns nothing
[15:41] <dedunu> from here i got it malinuss
[15:42] <ioria> bat_ : try     sudo  /etc/init.d/smbd stop, but maybe it's not running ... does it show in ps -A?
[15:42] <OerHeks> bat_, use sudo
[15:42] <xangua> Malinuss: you would spend less time in downloading and installing the desktop iso (1-2 hours) than installing a desktop (you have been doing it for 2 days as far as i know)
[15:42] <cfhowlett> Seagull, ok.  I manually built and installed the drivers in 10.04.  12.04 worked out of the box.
[15:42] <cfhowlett> bat_, try smb
[15:42] <Seagull> cfhowlett no dpkg. there is a b43-fwcutter, i'v installed it, then wget driver file, unpack it and then used b43-fwcutter to extract it to /lib/firmware (exactly as described in http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=239922 at step 3, b43 drivers instalation)
[15:42] <bat__> ioria: I know it is running, I can see it with nmap
[15:43] <bat__> ioria: it returns 'Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service'
[15:43] <cfhowlett> Seagull, ok. ask in the channel for removal/purge guidance.  sorry IDK
[15:43] <nick> hi
[15:44] <Malinuss> xangua, I'm not in a hurry. I had it installed 2-3 times already, just started over a couple of times for the fun of it.. I'm just doing this mostly to learn, not to have something working. maybe I should try arch, haha
[15:44] <nick> Does anybody know how can I install vmware workstation 9.0.1 on my ubuntu?
[15:44] <Guest63807> I have downloaded this file from their site. VMware-Workstation-Full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.bundle
[15:45] <dinkel> i just updated 12.04 on a asus 901 eeepc. the system will not boot anymore due to a  "The system is running in low graphics mode .... your screen could not be detected corrctly" i'm pretty sure this is because of a xserver update. what can i do?
[15:45] <Guest63807> Does anybody know how can I install vmware workstation 9.0.1 on my ubuntu? I have downloaded this file from their site. VMware-Workstation-Full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.bundle
[15:45] <bat__> ioria: Yes I can see smbd with ps -A
[15:45] <unheeding> Guest63807: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[15:46] <Seagull> cfhowlett, Thank a lot for your help!
[15:47] <ioria> bat_ : there are error messages ?
[15:47] <playdo> if anyone has some knowledge of .htaccess, could you please take a look at http://pastebin.com/cMW98sD0
[15:47] <Guest39482> any one have any information on getting Netflix to run on Ubuntu. I've tried every thing to get it to work
[15:48] <playdo> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/how-to-get-netflix-streaming-on-ubuntu-1210/4019
[15:48] <bat__> ioria: no, no error messages, just nothing.. it's weird i feel like my services are broken because when I type 'sudo service -status-all' there are questions marks on every services..
[15:48] <Malinuss> I guess my question is - how do I start LXDE from the command promt, after the installation of lubuntu-core?
[15:48] <mand_> When I move a windows half out of a workspace, how can I prevent that it's other half appears on the next workspace?
[15:48] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I install vmware workstation 9.0.1 on my ubuntu? I have downloaded this file from their site. VMware-Workstation-Full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.bundle.
[15:49] <Guest39482> playdo, I actually tried that already and I keep getting the same error at Netflix: it tells me 'thanks for installing - restart your browser' every time and won't run
[15:49] <ioria> bat_ : oh... try sudo kill -9 with the pid number but it's a very rough way
[15:49] <voldyman> guys what the best way to transfer music to iphone from ubuntu ?
[15:49] <cfhowlett> !phone|voldyman,
[15:49] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I install vmware workstation 9.0.1 on my ubuntu? I have downloaded this file from their site. VMware-Workstation-Full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.bundle.
[15:50] <voldyman> cfhowlett, still i can't just throw away my old iphone.
[15:50] <Chiku|dc> hi there is no passenger module for nginx ?
[15:50] <mojtaba> (10:48:56 AM) adam: Does anybody know how can I install vmware workstation 9.0.1 on my ubuntu? I have downloaded this file from their site. VMware-Workstation-Full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.bundle.
[15:50] <SolarisBoy> its a gem Chiku|dc
[15:50] <cfhowlett> voldyman, wrong link. sorry
[15:50] <cfhowlett> ipod|voldyman
[15:50] <cfhowlett> !ipod|voldyman
[15:50] <bat__> ioria: but I would to start it again later.. doing a kill -9 won't allow me to start it again later..
[15:50] <Jeruvy> mojtaba, yes if you need help feel free to ask in #vmware.
[15:50] <Chiku|dc> SolarisBoy, I installed passenger gem
[15:50] <mojtaba> Jeruvy: ok, thanks
[15:51] <dinkel> histo, the very recent update of 12.04 killed my eeepc. no fully booting through because of graphics problem. any idea?
[15:51] <Chiku|dc> but nginx: [emerg] unknown directive "passenger_root" in /etc/nginx/nginx.conf:11
[15:51] <voldyman> cfhowlett, thanks. :)
[15:51] <cfhowlett> voldyman, and feel free to mail that old phone my way ...
[15:51] <SolarisBoy> Chiku|dc: you need to then run the binary which ships with the gem if it wasn't run yet to install the module - it may try to install nginx afaik
[15:51] <ioria> bat_ : well, if neither start works, maybe the problem is deeper
[15:52] <Chiku|dc> SolarisBoy, yes but it will compile new nginx which is not more the ubuntu package one ?
[15:52] <bat__> ioria: yes, I got the same feeling. By any chance, do you know where is the log for 'service' ?
[15:52] <SolarisBoy> Chiku|dc: correct
[15:52] <ioria> bat_ : /var/log i think
[15:52] <Naeblis> Hi. I'm suddenly having sound troubles in Ubuntu 11.04. Tried Troubleshooting, and ran a script to re-install all the ALSA related stuff, but hasn't worked. Help!
[15:52] <Chiku|dc> so I shouold not use ubuntu's nginx if I want passenger ?
[15:53] <bat__> ioria: Ok, I'll take look. Thank you for your time :)
[15:53] <theuser> so im still wondering what exactly are the multiseat/multiterminal improvements in the 12.10 release?
[15:53] <ioria> bat_ : good luck, pal
[15:53] <SolarisBoy> Chiku|dc: i see a few folks have repos if you want to try that out
[15:53] <cfhowlett> !EOL|Naeblis,   you do know that version is end of life and no longer supported?
[15:53] <xangua> !eol | Naeblis
[15:54] <Naeblis> uhh....yeah
[15:54] <Naeblis> so no way I'm getting help for this version?
[15:54] <SolarisBoy> Chiku|dc: otherwise the way i have done it is to just compile nginx using the ruby module (sounds backwards but yea, no repo installed nginx), or you can try one of the repo's (ppas) out there that seem to provide the module and nginx as well in package form if you want to stick to the ubuntu methods.
[15:54] <Boreeas> For some reason, hibernation fails for me. The computer suspends, but when I boot it again, the saved state is lost. dmesg tells me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1633474/
[15:54] <cfhowlett> Naeblis, I'd urge you to consider installing 12.04 for Long Term Support ...
[15:55] <Boreeas> Does anyone know how to fix that? I know that I have enough swap, swapon tells me that only  2% of the 10GB swap partition is used
[15:55] <Chiku|dc> SolarisBoy, I will compile nginx with gem module
[15:56] <SolarisBoy> Chiku|dc: sounds food.
[15:56] <Chiku|dc> what about init.d script ?
[15:56] <SolarisBoy> *good =)
[15:56] <Naeblis> cfhowlett: thanks, but that's not an option at the moment. I might move in a few days.
[15:56] <Naeblis> :(
[15:56] <cfhowlett> Naeblis, ok then...
[15:56] <SolarisBoy> Chiku|dc: the nginx init script is pretty simple just repoint it to /opt where i believe it will install by default in the software compile
[15:56] <cfhowlett> Naeblis, any warning messages on your audio fail???
[15:57] <Naeblis> cfhowlett: that's the weird part. The devices are all recognized, and usually, the ALSA script (which I got from a very helpful person on Ubuntu forums) always fixed everything, but it's not working.
[15:57] <Naeblis> cfhowlett: closest I got was that usergroup 63 (I think) doesn't exist
[15:57] <cfhowlett> Naeblis, any chance this could be a hardware failure???
[15:58] <Naeblis> cfhowlett: hmm, don't think so to be honest. Might have to boot into Windows to find out
[15:58] <cfhowlett> Naeblis, that would be a definitive test ...
[15:59] <Naeblis> cfhowlett: I'll reboot and let you know how it goes. :)
[15:59] <phoenixsampras> is there stickyes in ubuntu?
[16:01] <l057c0d3r> anyone here use the ubuntu one feature?
[16:01] <phoenixsampras> l057c0d3r: tried... but dropbox is better
[16:01] <l057c0d3r> im down to the last part where it sais sync, stream , store
[16:01] <compdoc> cloud storage?
[16:01] <l057c0d3r> selected the files i wanted.. and its been saying gathering information for an hour now
[16:01] <l057c0d3r> err getting information please wait.. same thing
[16:02] <SolarisBoy> i like dropbox but ubuntu one works (recently) for me so i started using that since its already installed anyway
[16:02] <l057c0d3r> i feel like its not doing anything
[16:02] <l057c0d3r> at all
[16:02] <SolarisBoy> are you using a default setup ? or highly customized? i know that u1 used to have an issue with folks not running network manager
[16:02] <cfhowlett> 1057c0d3r it's a pretty silent operation ...
[16:03] <BluesKaj> dropbox works fine on ubuntu
[16:03] <SolarisBoy> they have logs under .cache i believe though if you wanted to know
[16:03] <l057c0d3r> it was the setup screen still.. couldnt click finish because it was getting information
[16:03] <SolarisBoy> do you have large files?
[16:03] <l057c0d3r> its not even syncing yet from what i can tell
[16:03] <l057c0d3r> oh well i just killed the process and reopened it..
[16:04] <SolarisBoy> you can check the logs to see what was happening
[16:04] <l057c0d3r> got the actual ubuntu one screen now.. i'll see what happens from here
[16:04] <Physicist> Greetings. Red Orchestra does not start later I had changed to 3D mode on Steam. My system is AMD 64 1TB 6GB ubuntu 12.04. How can I fix that?
[16:04] <cfhowlett> not the nicest user commun
[16:04] <cfhowlett> \\\\\\\\\
[16:04] <cfhowlett> \\\\\\\
[16:04] <cfhowlett> \\\\\\\
[16:04] <FloodBot1> cfhowlett: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:04] <cfhowlett> \
[16:04] <cfhowlett> Seagull, ok.  I manually built and installed the drivers in 10.04.  12.04 worked out of the box.
[16:05] <l057c0d3r> but yeah..  have a fully custom setup...  installed from minimal cd.. and pulled in what i wanted....
[16:05] <l057c0d3r> but i love this setup :-)  looks and works great
[16:05] <SolarisBoy> l057c0d3r: running network manager or just manually setting interfaces or other (wicd etc)?
[16:06] <l057c0d3r> im using network manager
[16:06] <SolarisBoy> l057c0d3r: regardless you may want to check the logs to be sure and maybe try dropbox if it's more forgiving of your setup
[16:06] <Physicist> Greetings. Red Orchestra does not start later I had changed to 3D mode on Steam. My system is AMD 64 1TB 6GB ubuntu 12.04. How can I fix that problem?
[16:06] <SolarisBoy> l057c0d3r: ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/ has seperate logs for each main function/process so thats where you would see what was causing an issue if anything
[16:07] <l057c0d3r> ahh its working now.. i wonder what the hang in setup was all about
[16:07] <l057c0d3r> killed that process and restarted..  now i can see my devices and its syncing right now
[16:07] <l057c0d3r> oh well as long as its working now.
[16:07] <SolarisBoy> logs may tell you, file sizes/counts could be one thing, or maybe a network hiccup (which would be in logs)
[16:08] <l057c0d3r> probably was something to do with my net to be honest
[16:08] <l057c0d3r> it likes to drop all the time
[16:08] <SolarisBoy> that would do it =)
[16:08] <l057c0d3r> end up going away for a few min and comming back to l057c0d3r_ in irc
[16:08] <Physicist> Common fellas..
[16:09] <l057c0d3r> i need a new isp
[16:10] <phoenixsampras> I need a wine
[16:11] <devdyd> Hey all -- does anyone know of a decent method to return the color underneath the cursor so I can use it in a bash script?
[16:11] <Boreeas> For some reason, hibernation fails for me. The computer suspends, but when I boot it again, the saved state is lost. dmesg tells me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1633474/
[16:11] <Boreeas> Does anyone know how to fix that? I know that I have enough swap, swapon tells me that only  2% of the 10GB swap partition is used
[16:12] <escott> Boreeas, how much ram do you have?
[16:12] <SolarisBoy> devdyd: gpick
[16:12] <Boreeas> escott: 3 GB
[16:12] <SolarisBoy> devdyd: 'sudo apt-get install gpick'
[16:13] <escott> Boreeas, do you have encrypted home/encrypted swap
[16:13] <Boreeas> escott: I don't think so. How do I check?
[16:14] <escott> Boreeas, what does swapon -s say
[16:14] <EuroTrash> If I edit /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/mdadm, will that apply automatically on next boot or do I have to update initramfs?
[16:14] <SolarisBoy> EuroTrash: update
[16:14] <Naeblis> cfhowlett: turns out it was hardware fault after all. :/
[16:14] <Boreeas> /dev/sda6                               partition	10687484	218372	-1
[16:14] <andrewx> Anyone know about Flash 11.5 support for linux? Whats up?
[16:14] <cfhowlett> Naeblis, at least now you know ...
[16:15] <EuroTrash> Thanks (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID did not mention it)
[16:15] <Naeblis> cfhowlett: thanks for your time. I never considered h/w to be faulty. I always assume Ubuntu to be at fault for my sound troubles
[16:15] <cfhowlett> !flash|andrewx,
[16:16] <OerHeks> andrew_, current is  11.2 r202 and 11.5 is for windows
[16:16] <ethanr> how stable is ubuntu 13.04 at this point?
[16:17] <rikica> ?
[16:17] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|ethanr,
[16:17] <rikica> ubutnu  13.04 is out  or will be after may
[16:17] <compdoc> Raring Ringtail - heh, great name
[16:17] <rikica> ?
[16:17] <STMelon> 11.2.202.262 is the latest adobe flash.. in ubuntu software center: flashplugin-installer 11.2.202.262ubuntu0.12.04.1
[16:17] <devdyd> thanks SolarisBoy I'll check it out
[16:18] <SolarisBoy> devdyd: sure
[16:18] <STMelon> http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
[16:20] <ethanr> I need a new OS for my netbook (Eee PC 901), but ubuntu12.10 is too slow. I tried 13.04 from a relatively slow USB, and it seemed to be faster, but it had severe visual glitches on the dash and alt-tab. will these still remain if I install? how about if I update?
[16:20] <theuser> Can i prevent ubuntu from automatically start using a keyboard as an input device?
[16:21] <cfhowlett> ethanr, xubuntu or lubuntu are designed for low spec and older machines.  either should work well.  I'd suggest you install 12.04 for Long Term Support
[16:21] <ethanr> cfhowlett, i don
[16:21] <invariant> ethanr, if you want things to work, use 12.04.
[16:21] <theuser> ethanr,   Lubuntu 12.04 is golden
[16:21] <ThinkT510> ethanr: 13.04 support in #ubuntu+1 until stable release
[16:22] <Boreeas> escott: /dev/sda6                               partition	10687484	218372	-1
[16:22] <invariant> ethanr, if you want to waste time on a broken system every one in a while, use something newer.
[16:22] <invariant> every once in a while*
[16:22] <dinkel> my eeepc root partition (4GB SSD) is notoriously short of memory, so i have only minimal install. is there a way to enlarge the root partition acroos hardware borders. i have plenty of space on the secondary SSD (16 GB).
[16:22] <dinkel> ?
[16:22] <ethanr> dinkel
[16:22] <ethanr> i have the exact same hd config as you
[16:22] <dinkel> yes
[16:23] <escott> Boreeas, yeah everything looks ok with the swap partition itself.
[16:23] <invariant> dinkel, you can use bind mounts.
[16:23] <dinkel> invariant, bind mounts ... never heard of it
[16:23] <invariant> !bind
[16:23] <dinkel> ok
[16:23] <invariant> dinkel, just google it.
[16:24] <invariant> dinkel, it allows you to put e.g. your usr on your 16GB drive.
[16:24] <cfhowlett> !google
[16:24] <escott> dinkel, an unsupported configuration is to put /usr on a different disk
[16:24] <invariant> cfhowlett, ....
[16:24] <dinkel> escott, alrigth
[16:24] <theuser> I was in awe when i realized my 4-5year old mini asus aspire one L110 could do 1080p on the vga out
[16:24] <invariant> cfhowlett, have you even googled it yourself?
[16:24] <dinkel> is it straightforward to do and secure?
[16:24] <invariant> cfhowlett, it cannot be much simpler.
[16:24] <dinkel> or am i getting in a whole lot of other troubles?
[16:25] <invariant> cfhowlett, type 'bind mount' and press enter.
[16:25] <invariant> escott, what kind of nonsense is that?
[16:25] <escott> invariant, ?
[16:25] <invariant> escott, who told you that?
[16:25] <escott> invariant, told me what?
[16:26] <dinkel> invariant, thx
[16:26] <invariant> escott, that putting /usr on a different disk is unsupported?
[16:26] <invariant> dinkel, I am not using it for usr, but I am using it for some other myself.
[16:26] <devdyd> SolarisBoy: this won't output to the console though right?
[16:26] <trap24> which is the offtopic channel for ubuntu :D
[16:26] <escott> invariant, there are binaries in /sbin that use libraries in /usr. so /sbin is broken without /usr
[16:27] <cfhowlett> !ot|trap24,
[16:27] <dinkel> invariant, but it doesnt look straightforward to me
[16:27] <invariant> escott, how is that even remotely related to what I asked you?
[16:27] <dinkel> google doesnt really clarify things
[16:27] <escott> invariant, if you dont use those binaries you might not have any problems but developers aren't making promises that separate /usr will work for everyone
[16:27] <dinkel> invariant, i wonder anyway why a basic install chews up 4 GB
[16:28] <dinkel> anyway ...
[16:28] <invariant> escott, again, where did you read that?
[16:28] <OerHeks> dinkel you could boot from 2nd ssd, and use the small 4 gb for data/backup
[16:28] <invariant> escott, there is no reason... no reason at all why that wouldn't work.
[16:29] <llutz> invariant: " ldd /sbin/*|grep usr"
[16:29] <dinkel> OerHeks, yes, i wanted to avoid that ... but under these circumstances its  probably the most straightforward solution
[16:29] <invariant> llutz, how is that related?
[16:30] <invariant> llutz, I know what the command does, and as far as I am concerned the output is irrelevant.
[16:30] <llutz> invariant: any binary from /sbin using libs in /usr/* will fail to run until /usr is mounted
[16:30] <llutz> invariant: so you have to make sure none of those are used UNTIL /usr is mounted
[16:30] <invariant> llutz, yes, and isn't everything mounted at boot?
[16:30] <STMelon> brb
[16:30] <llutz> invariant: you don't get it
[16:31] <invariant> llutz, because you haven't provided an argument.
[16:31] <llutz> invariant: so you have to make sure none of those are used UNTIL /usr is mounted
[16:31] <invariant> llutz, you only alluded to an argument.
[16:31] <zilvukas> Hello, have problem with erricsson integrated 3g device, after connection astablish'ed, i am automaticaly disconnected after few minutes.
[16:31] <Physicist> Greetings. Red Orchestra does not start later I had changed to 3D mode on Steam. My system is AMD 64 1TB 6GB ubuntu 12.04. How can I fix that problem?
[16:31] <invariant> llutz, now would be a great time to say that with default Ubuntu that is not the case.
[16:32] <invariant> llutz, because otherwise your whole argument falls over.
[16:32] <cfhowlett> Physicist, steam is still in beta ...
[16:32] <escott> invariant, upstream fedora/systemd has already declared it to be completely unsupported and is started down the path of eliminating /usr entirely. debian is likely to try and keep it running a bit longer, but i think it is fair to say it is "unsupported" in the sense that it is not guaranteed to work for everybody, and its not guaranteed to continue to work in the future
[16:32] <llutz> invariant: so you have to make sure none of those are used UNTIL /usr is mounted <- if thats the case with *buntu, you're fine.
[16:33] <Physicist> cfhowlett, and??
[16:33] <tonsofpcs> Physicist: I don't think RO has an OpenGL mode
[16:33] <invariant> llutz, in short, you don't know.
[16:33] <llutz> invariant: i never said it doesn't work
[16:33] <cfhowlett> Physicist, so this might be a steam issue not an ubuntu issue???
[16:33] <invariant> escott, you seem to be a very confused person.
[16:34] <Physicist> tonsofpcs, Exist the choose between Direct 3d and Open GL. My choice was Direct 3D. Later that.. crash!!
[16:34] <invariant> The whole 'not supported' issue has no meaning anyway.
[16:34] <escott> invariant, what would you call it when binaries in /sbin rely on libraries in /usr and upstream udev requires /usr to be on the same disk?
[16:34] <invariant> You can always pay someone to get it to work again if you cannot do it yourself.
[16:34] <alami> why i can found irssi-plugin-silc
[16:34] <tonsofpcs> Physicist: you don't have Direct3D.
[16:35] <invariant> Even then, I am sure someone who is not part of the regular might help someone who has a problem.
[16:35] <alami> why i can't found irssi-plugin-silc
[16:35] <nightwalkerkg> Hi i have just installed ubuntu res. extras and when i open a video on youtube there is justa black screen where the video should be.
[16:35] <invariant> escott, upstream udev?
[16:35] <invariant> escott, I would consider it a huge design failure.
[16:36] <cfhowlett> nightwalkerkg, see what happens with a vimeo.com video ...
[16:36] <Physicist> tonsofpcs, Now I see.. Direct 3D...  sure! I don't have it.... How revert that?
[16:36] <invariant> escott, there is no reason to impose such a restriction.
[16:36] <nightwalkerkg> Just a sec.
[16:36] <invariant> escott, in fact, if I want to put the rootfs on NFS, that should be possible.
[16:36] <tonsofpcs> Physicist: set it back to opengl?
[16:37] <nightwalkerkg> cfhowlett, well on vimeo there is just an image of that video and i can't do anything else.
[16:37] <nightwalkerkg> The right click isn't working on the video,but it's working on the page.
[16:37] <Physicist> tonsofpcs, Only possible change opening the game.. And the game does not open.
[16:37] <cfhowlett> nightwalkerkg, i'm thinking flash issues ... what browser are you in??
[16:37] <nightwalkerkg> Firefox.
[16:38] <alami> why i can't found irssi-plugin-silc on ubuntu 12.10
[16:38] <escott> invariant, i have zero interest in arguing design decisions with you. im saying that if i suggest to someone they put /usr on a different disk im also going to warn them that it may break because the lead developers of core software don't consider that to be a valid configuration
[16:38] <tonsofpcs> Physicist: search the steam forums for an answer, I guess
[16:38] <nightwalkerkg> Also,something is chewing my CPU,it's more then 60% all the time.
[16:38] <nightwalkerkg> And i don't have anything opened.
[16:38] <cfhowlett> nightwalkerkg, try youtube.com/html5 to see if that format works
[16:38] <Physicist> tonsofpcs, Thank you!
[16:39] <Physicist> cfhowlett, Thank you!
[16:39] <cfhowlett> Physicist, best of luck
[16:39] <invariant> escott, I am pretty sure those developers can go and prepare to be forked then, because users don't want that.
[16:39] <ioria> nightwalkerkg: do you use flash 10 or 11 ?
[16:39] <invariant> escott, and you still haven't provided any proof, btw.
[16:39] <invariant> escott, no link to a mailinglist or manual or standard. Nothing.
[16:40] <invariant> escott, I also have no interest in arguing with you, because apparently you don't understand the rules of a discussion.
[16:40] <invariant> escott, you are supposed to present proof or don't say anything at all.
[16:41] <invariant> All I have seen now is scare-mongering.
[16:41] <nightwalkerkg> ioria, well according to Firefox it's Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
[16:41] <escott> invariant, then please dont
[16:41]  * cfhowlett ... if we can get back to actual support please???
[16:41] <invariant> escott, I believe I said that it was you that shouldn't say anything at all.
[16:42] <ioria> nightwalkerkg: youtube, vimeo, google video, not working at all ? and no messages from firefox ?
[16:42] <invariant> cfhowlett, this is part of actual support.
[16:42] <larry_> hi all
[16:42] <invariant> cfhowlett, it's just beyond the level of comprehension of escott.
[16:42] <nightwalkerkg> ioria, correct.
[16:42] <cfhowlett> larry_, greetings
[16:42] <larry_> does anyone know what hdmi output video cards work with 12.04 ?
[16:42] <nightwalkerkg> There is just a black image where the video should be.
[16:42] <larry_> hi cfhowlett
[16:42] <xangua> nightwalkerkg: did you install any other flash plugin¿ gnash for example
[16:43] <alami> any one can tell one why i can't find irssi silc client package
[16:43] <nightwalkerkg> xangua, no,this is a fresh install i just installed ubuntu res. extras from the USC.
[16:43] <cfhowlett> nightwalkerkg, on the html5 youtube?  also, after installing restricted extras you might wish to reboot...
[16:43] <ioria> nightwalkerkg: i had a issue like that... i installed flash 10 (you have to download from the site)
[16:43] <nightwalkerkg> cfhowlett, i will reboot now and try.
[16:43] <cfhowlett> nightwalkerkg, but before that maybe run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:43] <nightwalkerkg> ioria, from adobe or any other ?
[16:44] <ioria> nightwalkerkg: from adobe
[16:44] <nightwalkerkg> Ok,i will try that all.
[16:45] <rushiagr> hey people
[16:45] <cfhowlett> rushiagr, greetings
[16:46] <picca> hi rushiagr
[16:46] <rushiagr> :)
[16:47] <rushiagr> hows your day cfhowlett, picca?
[16:47] <larry_> rry, had toleave
[16:47] <cfhowlett> rushiagr, good.  what's your ubuntu issue this fine day?
[16:47] <larry_> I ould like to have an HDMI card to output to a tv
[16:47] <rushiagr> just logged in after a long long time to this channel
[16:47] <picca> tired and work tomorrow rushiagr
[16:48] <rushiagr> picca: hmm yeah, same hear too
[16:48] <larry_> which cards work ith 12.04
[16:48] <rushiagr> cfhowlett: no issues :)
[16:48] <smee> does ubuntu call subwoofer "rear center" speaker?
[16:48] <tonsofpcs> no
[16:48] <tonsofpcs> subwoofer is LFE.
[16:48] <Halite> How can I tell if I have 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu
[16:48] <tonsofpcs> rear center is rear center if such a speaker exists
[16:49] <cfhowlett> !hardware|larry_,
[16:49] <tonsofpcs> (some 4 speaker setups are FL/C/FR/RC)
[16:49] <llutz> Halite: uname -m
[16:49] <larry_> thanks ubottu
[16:49] <smee> Thats what I thought. speaker-test is set to 6 channels but i hear voice rear center instead of subwoofer
[16:49] <BluesKaj> smee, subwoofer is probly called LFE
[16:49] <jhutchins_wk> larry_: The only way we know is if someone tries a card and reports it.
[16:49] <Halite> what does x86_64 mean
[16:49] <llutz> Halite: 64bit
[16:50] <Halite> llutz: Wait a minute, I thought I had 32-bit Ubuntu
[16:51] <jhutchins_wk> Halite: Do you have /usr/lib64?
[16:51] <llutz> Halite: then it would be "i686"
[16:53] <smee> alsamixer gives me lfe but speaker test voice is rear center. Is this a bug in speaker-test?
[16:54] <spyros> yo
[16:54] <cfhowlett> spyros, greetings
[16:54] <spyros> where can i discuss problem with my audio ?:P
[16:55] <cfhowlett> spyros, here.  ask.
[16:56] <spyros> i got ubuntu 12.04.i cant use skype(for calls ) while i am listening to music(youtube or audaciosu)
[16:56] <cfhowlett> spyros, that would be normal behavior ...
[16:57] <cfhowlett> spyros, do one or do the other, you sound server is dedicated to the selected app
[16:57] <BluesKaj> smee, does front center work properly , if so then the speaker test isn't set for rear center
[16:57] <escott> spyros, you wouldnt want to anyways. skype's echo cancelation is junk
[16:58] <spyros>  im pretty sure i could on 11.10 :/ :/
[17:00] <larry_> nope spyros , cant have more than one audio stream at a time
[17:00] <escott> spyros, if its not working at all make sure you have pulseaudio installed and are using the pulse device for input/output in skye and not the real device
[17:00] <smee> bluesKaj: the front center appears to work just it is through the rear right!
[17:00] <Malsasa> Hello, any fresh subjective review for Libreoffice 4? :)
[17:01] <BEC> Monitor help: I'm connecting to a Viewsonic VG700 (19" i guess) & a 32" LG TV (CS41 series). I cannot use them except in "Mirror displays" mode. If I disable this mode I get the following: http://i.imgur.com/D5OWb98.png (when I press close I get: http://i.imgur.com/I1s6eNi.png)
[17:01] <BluesKaj> smee, check your connections at the sound card
[17:02] <BEC> any help?
[17:02] <adamk> BEC: You'll need to create an xorg.conf file with a Screen section and specify the maximum Virtual size you might use.
[17:03] <BEC> adamk, is there a guide on doing this? (locate already found one!)
[17:03] <adamk> You'd want something along the lines of: http://pastebin.com/i69s9q1t in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-screen.conf
[17:03] <GermainZ|Phone> Has anyone tried using an ipod nano as a live usb?
[17:03] <Threepwood> BEC: there is "always" an existing xorg.conf
[17:03] <adamk> But using the Virtual size you need.
[17:04] <Arvendu> Hello Guys one question if i will copy/paste or format my pen drive on unix system then will it work in windows or read?
[17:05] <escott> Arvendu, depends on how you format it
[17:05] <smee> bluesKaj: it is via hdmi to a amp. The amp is wired up correctly as tested on several other devices
[17:05] <Arvendu> escott guide me :( i want to remove windows crap :P
[17:06] <mandoguit> Arvendu:  fat  fat16 or 32 ntfs will be able to be read by windows systems
[17:06] <escott> Arvendu, you want to remove windows stuff but you want it to work on windows. im confused
[17:06]  * cfhowlett :)
[17:07] <lundy> how can I format a Pen Drive?
[17:07] <BluesKaj> smee, try the spdif out instead , hdmi audio might be misinterpreting the discrete location
[17:08] <mandoguit> Arvendu:   standard formatting these days compatibilty wise, afaik, is fat32
[17:08] <escott> lundy, install and use "gparted"
[17:08] <lundy> i wanna install ubuntu onto it so I can install Ubuntu on another desktop
[17:08] <cfhowlett> lundy, startupdisk creator will do it nicely as will unetbootin
[17:08] <mandoguit> lundy:   gparted and unetbootin would be one way.    see   pendrivelinux.com
[17:09] <lundy> kk ta
[17:09] <GermainZ|Phone> The live cd already has gparted so you can do it directly from there
[17:09] <lundy> gparted wont find my pens
[17:10] <mandoguit> lundy:  check the right hand upper corner of gparted where you can change the device to be partitioned
[17:10] <escott> lundy, gparted isnt the correct tool since you wanted to make an install usb
[17:12] <jcabo_> lundy: try usb-creator-gtk or usb-creator-kde to make a bootable ubuntu
[17:12] <Folorn> could someone tell me how to save all my channels/server so when i start up it just goes to all my channels automatically?
[17:12] <smee> bluesKaj: i only have a hdmi. I have remapped everything so correct channel order now but can't get any audio out of LFE at all. I have checked alsamixer is not muted LFE. Any ideas how to get LFE output? It is a sandby bridge.
[17:12] <jcabo_> lundy: it reformats the drive too
[17:13] <kdeuser> Folorn: what client do you use?
[17:13] <Folorn> xchat kdeuser
[17:13] <GermainZ|Phone> Folorn, depends on the client you're using. Ask in #help :)
[17:13] <mandoguit> Folorn:  right click on channel buttons and the Add to Favourites
[17:13] <kdeuser> Folorn:  Check your user settings, you should be able to add channels to join when you start xchat
[17:14] <BluesKaj> smee, what app are you using as an audio "test" ?
[17:15] <Folorn> just did dont see any place to save the channel list :(
[17:15] <mandoguit> Folorn:   Xchat > Network List > Freenode > Edit and make sure the "automatically join" box is ticked
[17:16] <Folorn> k 1sec mandoguit
[17:18] <smee> bluesKaj: I am using speaker-test to test audio
[17:18] <mandoguit> Folorn:   xchat > Server > Download list then Save List   for channel listings per server
[17:18] <Ravus> Hi.
[17:18] <cfhowlett> Ravus, greetings
[17:19] <Ravus> I'm about to dual boot 12.10 with windows 7. Anything I should know?
[17:19] <cfhowlett> Ravus, on what computer?
[17:19] <Ravus> Custom built pc.
[17:20] <kdeuser> Ravus: Install windows first and then *buntu
[17:20] <dr_willis> when in doubt.. make backups...
[17:20] <GermainZ|Phone> Ravus I did it without issued...
[17:20] <Folorn> thanks guys brb
[17:20] <cfhowlett> Ravus, install 12.04 Long Term Support ... less bleeding edge but quite likely better supported for your hardware
[17:20] <Ravus> I am on windows right now, I will be adding ubuntu.
[17:20] <GermainZ|Phone> I installed grub in linux's partition, tho
[17:21] <Ravus> Specs: Triple monitors  RAM: G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)  CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 645 Propus 3.1GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core  Graphics card: Nvidia GeForce GT 520, ATI Radeon 4250  Motherboard: ASUS M4A88T-M
[17:21] <kdeuser> Ravus: then you will be just fine.. We are here to help you in case you have any issues after install
[17:22] <Ravus> Is the Windows installer any good?
[17:22] <cfhowlett> Ravus, do I read correctly that you running both nvidia AND ati GPU???
[17:22] <kdeuser> Ravus: you mean wubi? yes
[17:22] <Ravus> cfhowlett That's right.
[17:22] <cfhowlett> Ravus, wubi is great for TESTING ubuntu .. it's stated purpose.  It's not a permanent install solution ...
[17:23] <cfhowlett> Ravus, and you might have to do a bit of jiggering with 2 competing gpu's...
[17:23] <kdeuser> Ravus: Get the desktop version of ubuntu and try it out from the disc to check if you have any problems with any hardware
[17:24] <Arvendu> guys in ubuntu any download manager avail like windows have
[17:24] <nexus`> yeah
[17:24] <kdeuser> Arvendu: tons..
[17:24] <Arvendu> name plz
[17:24] <nexus`> synaptic is default it hink
[17:24] <cfhowlett> Arvendu, download manager?  you mean torrents?
[17:25] <nexus`> oh i thought he meant package
[17:25] <kdeuser> Arvendu: i use kget as I am on kde
[17:25] <Arvendu> no mate ..links download manager
[17:25] <Arvendu> like Windows have IDM,Flashget ,Dap etc
[17:25] <kdeuser> kget can download both torrents and normal files
[17:25] <nexus`> oh um
[17:25] <nexus`> Arvendu: just google flashget ubuntu
[17:25] <nexus`> it will pop up some alternative
[17:26] <jcabo_> kdeuser: for torrents in kde don't forget to check out QBitTorrent (it has an option to download sequentially)
[17:26] <nexus`> jdownloader i think?
[17:26] <kdeuser> Arvendu: my personal fav is wget though its command line based.. you have gui based versions also
[17:26] <nexus`> jcabo_: lots of private trackers have blacklisted qbitorrent
[17:26] <kdeuser> jcabo_: thanks, will check it out
[17:26] <Arvendu> yeah ...
[17:26] <Ravus> So, what is the deal with games on Ubuntu? Am I only able to play my Left 4 Dead on it?
[17:26] <GermainZ|Phone> I use downthemall
[17:26] <GermainZ|Phone> It's a firefox extension
[17:26] <Arvendu> these days linux is very famous :)
[17:26] <jcabo_> nexus`: I didn't know that, though I never use private trackers. Thanks for the info
[17:26] <nexus`> transmission is the way to go for torrents
[17:27] <nexus`> or rtorrent with rutorrent webgui
[17:27] <Arvendu> transmission,rtorrent :D
[17:27] <Arvendu> Rtorrent best :D
[17:27] <cfhowlett> Ravus, see software center/games... there are dozens if not hundreds
[17:27] <nexus`> i forgot about downthemall GermainZ|Phone
[17:27] <nexus`> theres your solution Arvendu
[17:27] <ErtanERBEK> Dear All, How can I disable ecryptfs system without delete my home folder, did you have any information about this issue ?
[17:27] <mandoguit> utorrent server seems to work fine here too
[17:27] <Arvendu> ;)
[17:27] <Ravus> cfhowlett Is that a native program on Ubuntu, such as an app market?
[17:28] <Arvendu> is it linux internet have faster access then windows?
[17:28] <nexus`> no
[17:28] <cfhowlett> Ravus, right, the Ubuntu Software Center ...
[17:28] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: network speed has little to do with the os
[17:28] <nexus`> your internet speed is based on the config file your ISP sends to the modem
[17:28] <nexus`> you can do a little tweaking on your end but not a whole lot
[17:28] <nexus`> messing with the MTU and such
[17:28] <Arvendu> kk
[17:29] <nexus`> ive never noticed much of a difference though
[17:29] <Ravus> I am getting  Ubuntu at 100kb/s, I'll be gone while this is downloading. Thanks for the help guys.
[17:29] <nexus`> enjoy it Ravus :)
[17:29] <Arvendu> but one thing more ...when i run live mode of ubuntu i am not able to see my ssid wifi network but network is enable
[17:29] <nexus`> download network manager
[17:30] <nexus`> or that may be an issue with live cd i dunno
[17:30] <nexus`> have u tried it installed on your HDD?
[17:30] <cfhowlett> Ravus, best of luck
[17:30] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: likely you haven't got the wifi driver installed. broadcom i guess?
[17:30]  * cfhowlett bets 10 RMB on broadcom !
[17:31] <Arvendu> i have dell inspiron 1525
[17:31] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: lspci
[17:31] <xsrHunt> you can not modify your internet speed from some config file sent by your isp !!
[17:31] <nexus`> not anymore
[17:31] <Arvendu> i am in windows right now
[17:31] <xsrHunt> the speed of your internet connection is programmed at the phone exchange
[17:31] <nexus`> years ago you could uncap your cable modem with some ISP's
[17:32] <nexus`> surfboard 4200
[17:32] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: open up the device manager then
[17:32] <xsrHunt> oh, sorry, i must of came half way, my apologies
[17:32] <nexus`> trick it into reading the config file from your computer instead of the ISP network
[17:32] <nexus`> but wha ti was getting at is that you can change your computer network settings
[17:32] <nexus`> however ive never noticed much if any difference
[17:33] <Arvendu> dell wireless 1395 Wlan
[17:33] <xsrHunt> i remember during the modem days we did some tricks similar to those
[17:33] <nexus`> back when we first got broadband here we only had 2mbit
[17:33] <nexus`> and i uncapped mine up to 20/20
[17:33] <Arvendu> nd marvell yukon 88E8040 Lan driver
[17:33] <nexus`> ran it for like a year before they upgraded and you couldnt do it anymore
[17:34] <xsrHunt> its awesome to get back on irc ... its been .... a bit over 14 years !! lol
[17:34] <ErtanERBEK> anyone canhelp me ?
[17:34] <mandoguit> Ravus:   with respect to your dual graphics card  see    https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki      you may need bumblebee for the nvidia side of things
[17:34] <Arvendu> ThinkT510 u here?
[17:34] <cfhowlett> ErtanERBEK, restate the problem
[17:34] <nexus`> ive still got a surfboard 4200 with firmware hack in a drawer somewhere
[17:34] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: lan is your ethernet
[17:34] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: thats the wired network
[17:34] <Arvendu> yes i know m8 but i want wifi driver which is dell wireless 1395
[17:35] <escott> mandoguit, i thought bumblebee was for laptop graphics switching, not Ravus multiple graphics cards in a desktop
[17:35] <ErtanERBEK> cfhowlett, I want remove ecryptfs folder feature from my computer
[17:35] <Arvendu> Think510 http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[17:36] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: there you go, broadcom
[17:36] <ErtanERBEK> it is mean I am using ecryptfs home folder now but working very slowly and I want delete that feature without delete my home folder
[17:36] <escott> ErtanERBEK, copy your files (excluding ~/.Private) out of $HOME and into a new folder in /home/newhome or the like. then switch homes, and then delete the /home/oldhome/.Private
[17:36] <cfhowlett> ErtanERBEK, ah yes.  I read a tutorial for that as I also installed ecrypt.  I decided that I'lll just have to wait for the next point release, reformat my drive and reinstall ...
[17:36] <mandoguit> escott:  some lappy's come with the dual setup
[17:36] <nexus`> Arvendu: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wireless-internet/161177-dell-wireless-1395-ubuntu.html
[17:36] <nexus`> scroll down to second post
[17:36] <ErtanERBEK> cfhowlett, escott thank you for your suggestion
[17:36] <nexus`> if that doesnt work i just started here: https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+driver+dell+wireless+1395&aq=f&oq=ubuntu+driver+dell+wireless+1395&aqs=chrome.0.57j0l3.3209&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
[17:36] <mandoguit> escott:  Optimus is what it's called iirc
[17:36] <escott> mandoguit, Ravus already left the channel but his was not a laptop. it was a desktop. gaming machine with two cards
[17:36] <cfhowlett> ErtanERBEK, best of luck
[17:37] <Arvendu> nexus is this for Wireless or wired connection ?
[17:38] <escott> ErtanERBEK, you also have encrypted swap which you might want to swapoff, mkswap on the real device and then swapon as well as doing whatever to decommission the dmcrypt swap device
[17:38] <nexus`> at the bottom it says for wired but that thing it is downloading is a start
[17:38] <ErtanERBEK> escott, I am not use any swap area
[17:38] <nexus`> you need it apparently
[17:38] <nexus`> try to install it and see if it shows up
[17:38] <Arvendu> k
[17:38] <ErtanERBEK> I already have 16Gb memory unit at my leptop
[17:38] <mandoguit> escott:    ahhh...ok.   wasn't sure but just thought I'd mention it as it was a new install/user/newbie etc
[17:39] <ErtanERBEK> and I am realy not understadn my SSD disk readk speed 25 MB/s and write speed 13 Mb/s with ecryptfs system :D
[17:39] <Arvendu> nexus last question i have two partition right now....C Drive is windows and D Drive is backup i want to remove C Drive and install Ubuntu and i want to mass with D
[17:39] <ErtanERBEK> normal this disk can write 260 MB/s and read 300 MB/s D
[17:39] <escott> ErtanERBEK, it does go through fuse so thats a couple more memory copies
[17:39] <ErtanERBEK> how ecryptfs system downgrade my disk system speed I am realy not understand
[17:39] <nexus`> just repartition them
[17:40] <nexus`> what do you mean mass with D
[17:40] <Arvendu> i do not want to delete D Drive becz there is my backup available
[17:40] <nexus`> when you are running the installation of ubuntu just select the C to reformat and partition
[17:41] <fox__> اه
[17:41] <fox__> ااه
[17:41] <fox__> شو
[17:41] <nexus`> and make sure you select make a separate partition for /home as that will come in handy
[17:41] <fox__> حدا يرد
[17:41] <xsrHunt> dont format into FAT whatever u do
[17:41] <fox__> ألوووووووووو
[17:41] <FloodBot1> fox__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:41] <fox__> مرحبا
[17:41] <ErtanERBEK> I am getting my home folder now aftr try escott suggestion
[17:41] <cfhowlett> fox__, eglish???
[17:42] <ErtanERBEK> Sorry my bad englis, I gettin backup my home folder to another USB3 disk after try change home folder
[17:42] <nexus`> Arvendu: you have 1 HDD right?
[17:42] <nexus`> and C/D are the partition on it correct?
[17:43] <nexus`> if that is the case then during install just reformat C and tell ubuntu to use the free space partition to install
[17:43] <nexus`> D will be left alone
[17:43] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: be careful, or you might loose file permissions and hidden files, depending on how you copy your home folder.
[17:43] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: if you copy to an usb formatted as FAT32, you will loose file permissions
[17:43] <Arvendu> k just suppose if i want to delete both drive and Create two partiton then ?
[17:44] <nexus`>  u wanna get rid of D?
[17:44] <Arvendu> yes
[17:44] <ThinkT510> !partitioning | Arvendu
[17:44] <nexus`> then just reformat the whole drive
[17:44] <ErtanERBEK> I open all hidden file firstly ctrl+h and reslect all file with crtl+a after start copy progress
[17:44] <luisgmarine> hello guys I'm trying to set up a nice basic home server running out of my desktop machine.  I just want to be able to access all my movies , music, etc from the other machines on my network.  I've googled several how to tutotirials but no matter what I try I can never see the file from any other computer
[17:44] <nexus`> during install you can create partitions
[17:44] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: unless you compress it with tar.gz, as follows:    'tar cvzf filename.tgz /home/<your_home>'
[17:44] <ErtanERBEK> Thank you for your suggestion JC_SoCal
[17:44] <nexus`> it's fairly simple the GUI will tell you how
[17:44] <JC_SoCal> which suggestions was this?
[17:44] <Arvendu> k guys :) will back in few moments after installation done :)
[17:44] <escott> ErtanERBEK, don't do it through nautilus
[17:44] <Arvendu> Byee Thanks TC :D
[17:44] <nexus`> good luck
[17:45] <ErtanERBEK> JC_SoCal, I have 60 GB daha in my home folder My idea tar.gz not god selection for me :D
[17:45] <JC_SoCal> um ... your welcome?
[17:45] <escott> ErtanERBEK, you dont want a tar. you need to be able to use your copy to verify it is correct
[17:45] <Mehrdad> google sucks
[17:45] <ErtanERBEK> jcabo_, I have 60 GB daha in my home folder My idea tar.gz not god selection for me :D
[17:45] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: if I were you, I would copy to a different directory in the same harddisk, outside /home/<your_Home>, which will not be under ecryptfs
[17:45] <JC_SoCal> ^^ haha mistaken identity
[17:45] <Mehrdad> Bing > Google
[17:46] <nexus`> blasphemy Mehrdad
[17:46] <nexus`> google is a programmers #1 best friend
[17:47] <nexus`> and anyone who uses linux
[17:47] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: or first copy the big files to a usb, so that what you have to put in the .tgz are just the configuration files of home.
[17:47] <nexus`> a lot of questions that are asked in here are solved easily by being able to know how to use google right
[17:47] <Mehrdad> http://www.google.com/search?q=Histrionic+Personality+Disorder+social+anxiety&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1
[17:47] <Mehrdad> nexus` again, what?
[17:47] <nexus`> ?
[17:47] <Mehrdad> also what is the offtopic channel for ubuntu ?
[17:47] <nexus`> idk
[17:48] <nexus`> ##linux?
[17:48] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: 'cp -a' is recursive and preserves file permissions
[17:48] <ErtanERBEK> Dear Friends, I want ask to you
[17:48] <ThinkT510> !offtopic | Mehrdad
[17:48] <nexus`> he'll have to use cp -r to do the directory jcabo_
[17:48] <ErtanERBEK> first of all I get my all data to another disk
[17:48] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: 'cp -a' is recursive and preserves file permissions
[17:48] <ErtanERBEK> after delete my home folder and re copy all data another disk to my main disk
[17:48] <nexus`> oh nvm jcabo_ you are right
[17:48] <escott> nexus`, -a includes -dR
[17:48] <nexus`> just looked at the man
[17:49] <obert> hello, i am trying to install kate via package manager but everytime i got it installed as root
[17:49] <nexus`> manual
[17:49] <nexus`> learned something new
[17:49] <nexus`> :)
[17:49] <FloodBot1> nexus`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:49] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: On the other hand, if all you care about is data, and not configuration files, then copy to usb is fine.
[17:49] <ErtanERBEK> but how can stop ecryptfs system
[17:49] <Wizek> Hello! Do .desktop files support drag-and-drop funcionality from the unity launcher?
[17:49] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: to stop ecryptfs is easy: just create another user (see System Settings)
[17:50] <ErtanERBEK> I mean how can I stop ecryptfs mount system
[17:50] <Wizek> I mean drag and drop onto them
[17:50] <ErtanERBEK> jcabo_, But I want use same user
[17:50] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: after you created another user, copy the files from /home/<old_user> to /home/<new_user>/
[17:50] <ErtanERBEK> because I have many configuration at password and group side and other system folder for this user
[17:52] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: maybe this will help you, it involves creating another user as an intermediate step though: http://virtually-a-machine.blogspot.com.ar/2010/08/howto-disable-ecryptfs.html
[17:53] <ErtanERBEK> Thank jcabo_
[17:53] <BEC> adamk, I've done the following: http://paste2.org/p/2845925 (excluding the ,.) but I still have problems
[17:55] <zetheroo> You have a bunch of text - enough for 10 - 20 pages - and you want to have this text laid out in a document with embedded audio files which you can click on to listen to. -- How would one accomplish this in Linux? :D
[17:55] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, libreoffice impress???
[17:56] <marchtemp> zetheroo: HTML5
[17:56] <BEC> adamk, I also tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/35968/multi-screen-problems-virtual-size-does-not-fit-available-size (Catalyst reply!)
[17:56] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: before you try that guide, do a backup of important data first though!
[17:56] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: unfortunately my experiences with LibreOffice in this regard have been dismally negative :P
[17:57] <zetheroo> marchtemp: so basically making a website out of it ... ?
[17:57] <marchtemp> I have a problem with ALSA in Ubuntu minimal, I've installed alsa-utils, and alsa-tools, but the sound only works in headphones.
[17:57] <marchtemp> zetheroo: Not a website, but a bunch of HTML pages.
[17:57] <zetheroo> marchtemp: right
[17:58] <zetheroo> marchtemp: but for someone who knows nothing of coding in HTML is there a program that can do this ?
[17:59] <marchtemp> zetheroo: I know there are projects that help you create a local media library with HTML.
[17:59] <zetheroo> marchtemp: hmm .. sounds interesting ..
[18:00] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: perhaps ask in ##linux since your question isn't really ubuntu specific
[18:00] <marchtemp> zetheroo: I don't know your background, I suggest learning HTML, it's easy.
[18:00] <marchtemp> ThinkT510: I have an Ubuntu specific question.
[18:01] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: good thought ... how do you like your T510? Did the T510 already come with the chicklet keyboard? ;)
[18:01] <nayris> Hello everone, am new to Ubuntu and i need some help to set my Thunderbird , Any one ?
[18:01] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: not sure what you mean by chicklet but i like my thinkpad very much
[18:01] <ThinkT510> marchtemp: i have no issues with alsa so i can't really help you sorry
[18:01] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: your first Thinkpad?
[18:02] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: nope, my first was a t40
[18:02] <nayris> i am using a thinkpad my self :D sl510 too
[18:02] <marchtemp> ThinkT510: Does 12.04 use pulse or alsa or both?
[18:02] <ThinkT510> marchtemp: both
[18:02] <marchtemp> ThinkT510: How do they not conflict?
[18:03] <marchtemp> Maybe I need to install pulse.
[18:03] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: ok, then is the keyboard on the T510 the same as the T40?
[18:03] <ThinkT510> marchtemp: i'm not the most knowledgable regarding the sound system but i think pulse and alsa do slightly different things
[18:03] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: no
[18:03] <ClientAlive> I need to move about a dozen files over ssh to my other other computer. Is there a way to pipe the filenames in or something? (some easier way to issue the command so I don't have to type out every file name)?
[18:04] <marchtemp> ClientAlive: Tar or zip them and scp the archive.
[18:04] <jcabo_> nayris: you can move your thunderbird profile and retain all configuration and emails from a previous thunderbird installation (even from windows)
[18:04] <marchtemp> jcabo_: I think he quit.
[18:05] <jcabo_> ohh sorry
[18:05] <jcabo_> you're right
[18:05] <ClientAlive> I I have all the individual files tarred....  :s
[18:05] <marchtemp> ClientAlive: so what tar doesn't care.
[18:05] <Threepwood> ClientAlive:  or "scp -r sourceFolder username@host:targetFolder
[18:06] <zetheroo> marchtemp: running 12.04 here with pulseaudio 1:1.1-0ubuntu15.2 installed
[18:06] <marchtemp> zetheroo: I only have the base system. No DE.
[18:06] <zetheroo> and alsa-base 1.0.25+dfsg-0ubuntu1
[18:06] <kha0s1> i have an issue with crash with bumblebee-ui and ubuntu 12.10 (updated)
[18:07] <ClientAlive> Threepwood: then what? When I get them on the other computer do a mv on every file name to get them back out of the folder? This is an operation to add media files to an existing collection on the other machine.
[18:07] <ThinkT510> kha0s1: bumblebee isn't really supported here
[18:08] <ErtanERBEK> jcabo_, I found one document about transfer ecryptfs user document to another use account http://www.howtogeek.com/116179/how-to-disable-home-folder-encryption-after-installing-ubuntu/
[18:08] <kha0s1> Ok ThinkT510 I have reported to the github issue too
[18:08] <Threepwood> ClientAlive:  dont have a clue what you are doing here, but the go on with the "tar em all" advice
[18:08] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: just checked .. the T510 still has the legendary Keyboard - nice!! ;)
[18:09] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: that guide will work fine too
[18:09] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: i made sure my t510 wasn't optimus
[18:09] <ErtanERBEK> thank you for your assitance dear jcabo_
[18:09] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: I have a R61, T400, T40p and T42 here .. and my wife uses a T61 ... Nothing but Thinkpad for me :D
[18:09] <jcabo_> ErtanERBEK: :-) no problem!!
[18:10] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: by Optimus your referring to the NVIDIA gfx? Why did you avoid it?
[18:10] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: optimus is nvidia plus intel switchable graphics
[18:10] <Chiku|dc> hum is it normal ? tcp6       0      0 127.0.0.1:61613         :::*                    LISTEN      110        27735       26899/java
[18:11] <marchtemp> I don't really want to install pulse. Can I make my sound work with speakers with ALSA only?
[18:11] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: yes - but why did you avoid it?
[18:11] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: so i could have a working laptop
[18:11] <ClientAlive> well, it seems to me if I put everything in one directory on the sending computer I will still have to get the contents of that directory out on the recieving computer - and that takes me right back to typing out 12 long file names into a ludacrous long command (or compying and pasting 12 long file names into a ludacrous long command) - in order to get the files back out of the directory I sent them to the other computer in.
[18:11] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: I have ATI/Intel switchable on my T400 ... and it's running Ubuntu 12.04 fine ...
[18:11] <Chiku|dc> listening on tcp6 with ipv4 address ?
[18:12] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: you just have to disable the auto-switching in the BIOS - but you can still use both cards
[18:12] <ClientAlive> So I'm wondering if there is a way to use a pipe or variable in the command so I can send the 12 files outside of a containing directory and into the existing directory on the other machine that already contains over 100 similar media files.
[18:12] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: why get it in the first place if you can't autoswitch?
[18:12] <l3g3nd> how do i add ip blockers like on windows with the application called peerblock
[18:13] <ioria> marchtemp: i disintalled pulseaudio and i'm ok ... but i'm on lubuntu here.
[18:13] <ClientAlive> I can't afford for anything to get clobbered or corrupted in this process - these are the only copies
[18:13] <marchtemp> ioria: The problem is: ALSA works with headphones only. I have no idea what is going on.
[18:14] <BluesKaj> marchtemp, laptop ?
[18:14] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: well if I need the higher powered gfx for something in particular I can boot into BIOS, select the ATI gfx and then boot into Ubuntu ... since I have an SSD in my T400 the boot time is lightning fast - so I can switch the gfx card within less 30 seconds
[18:14] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: Yes.
[18:15] <blackjack> hy all
[18:15] <blackjack>  I'm still confused with this topology, in my ubuntu server using 2 nic, one onboard headed to swith, the second nic toward mikrotik, mikrotik ip 192.168.1.2, http://postimage.org/image/91p7e8eyj/
[18:15] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: you can also use a gui-approach (filezilla) if typing 12 times the "same" scp command is too much :)
[18:15] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: that sounds awfully clunky to me, but i'm glad you are happy with the solution
[18:15] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: Ubuntu minimal 12.04, Installed alsa-base, alsa-tools, alsa-utils..
[18:15] <blackjack> can help my ?
[18:15] <BluesKaj> marchtemp, which sound card ?
[18:15] <GeekSquid> l3g3nd: check out this link... it is the easy peasy way of blocking things https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[18:15] <ClientAlive> ok ok
[18:15] <ClientAlive> thx
[18:15] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: Inted HDA something
[18:16] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: LOL, I have only done it twice since getting the laptop - the Intel gfx are very sufficient.
[18:16] <ioria> marchtemp: if you type alsamixer ?
[18:16] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: no problem, maybe there is a better approach, but i cant tell you more
[18:16] <ClientAlive> np
[18:16] <l3g3nd> geeksquid-thanks
[18:16] <zetheroo> ThinkT510: besides the Intel gfx run cooler and consume less power - so better for battery life :P
[18:16] <marchtemp> ioria: it brings the volume levels. I also have gnome-alsamixer
[18:17] <scratchy> back
[18:17] <BluesKaj> marchtemp, ,ok , firstly you probly have pulesaudio installed , recommend you also install it's gui , pavucontrol , helps with enabling inputs and outputs
[18:17] <ClientAlive> Threepwood: I'm wondering if somthing like: ls | scp sending: ./
[18:17] <ioria> marchtemp: maybe you should change the settings of your player
[18:17] <ClientAlive> would work
[18:17] <ClientAlive> I can see that isn't syntactically correct tho and not sure if it would even work
[18:18] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: I don't think I have it installed.
[18:18] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: thats basically the same as scp folder ... if you want to select only some files thats another story
[18:18] <marchtemp> ioria: I tried it with speaker-test.
[18:18] <scratchy> ok got the minimal installed with xfce
[18:18] <scratchy> very happy with the results
[18:18] <jcabo_> ClientAlive: see 'man xargs' to pipe arguments to the next command
[18:19] <ThinkT510> !yay | scratchy
[18:19] <BluesKaj> marchtemp, open a console , type pulseaudio
[18:19] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: I think you can also "add" the files to your existing folder, scp ist "the same" as a lokal cp (at least it got very similar behaviour)
[18:19] <ClientAlive> Threepwood: well, not really, scp can take multiple files to send in it's command. If I can get them into the stream without typeing them out I'm golden
[18:19] <Taylr0x> Good evening all.
[18:19] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: No commands start with pulse.
[18:19] <MikeH> Any suggestions why despite the installer saying I have over 4.9GB space available, it won't let me install the boot loader to my hard drive?
[18:19] <jcabo_> ClientAlive: but what you are looking for is this:       for a in *; do scp $a sending:/  ; done
[18:19] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: does the folder contain only files you need or also some others?
[18:20] <scratchy> It looks very clean :) made me a happy camper...Id like to invest some time now in securing my system. Since im going to use it on public wireless network. Already got a root password. Is there a good firewall available that you could recommend ?
[18:20] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: ls /usr/bin | grep pulse returns nothing
[18:20] <jcabo_> ClientAlive: try it first with 'echo' as in :       for a in *; do echo scp $a sending:/  ; done
[18:20] <ThinkT510> scratchy: you shouldn't set a root password for a desktop system
[18:20] <ClientAlive> what Threepwood ways - a mixture of directories actually. But the ones I need to move are .tar.gz which is treated like a file (no -r needed).
[18:20] <threepi> hi
[18:20] <ThinkT510> !noroot | scratchy
[18:21] <ClientAlive> jcabo_: I'll experiment with that
[18:21] <ClientAlive> thx
[18:21] <ioria> marchtemp: if you type ps -A , can you see pulseaudio ?
[18:21] <scratchy> no I know :)
[18:21] <threepi> for some odd reason i can't seem to access any programs that are installed int he /opt folder, albeit proper permissions set... is there a knowable reason for this?
[18:21] <scratchy> I got it set
[18:21] <scratchy> lol
[18:21] <scratchy> just asking
[18:21] <FloodBot1> scratchy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:21] <scratchy> you know anygood firewalls
[18:21] <jcabo_> ClientAlive: you can use *.tgz instead of * too.
[18:21] <marchtemp> ioria: I'm pretty possitive that I don't have it installed.
[18:21] <ClientAlive> jcabo_: cool  :)
[18:21] <ThinkT510> !ufw | scratchy
[18:22] <marchtemp> ioria: ps -A | grep pulse. no results.
[18:22] <obert> can i know how to install kate properly? not as root but as user, in order to let it save config
[18:22] <Taylr0x> Is anyone able to point me in the direction of a list of desktop environments you can run whilst operating Ubuntu please?
[18:23] <Taylr0x> Want something like Fluxbox (used this YEARS ago when running Gentoo).
[18:23] <ThinkT510> obert: all software installation has to be done via sudo
[18:23] <BluesKaj> marchtemp, then just install it
[18:23] <obert> ThinkT510: i'm using software package
[18:23] <ioria> marchtemp: which player do you use ?
[18:23] <ClientAlive> jcabo_: well wait a cotton pickin minute here. Now just *.tar.gz will list all .tar.gz file (ie: ls *.tar.gz) - so why can't I just go: scp sender:/*.tar.gz ./receiving/end
[18:23] <ClientAlive> ??
[18:23] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: Do I need pulse to get my speakers to work?
[18:23] <nathansuchy> Hey I need help configuring some software can anyone help?
[18:24] <marchtemp> ioria: mplayer, smplayer.
[18:24] <jcabo_> ClientAlive: I'm not sure, why don't you try it?
[18:24] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: what about scp `find -L sourceFolder -name "*tar.gz"` user@host:targetFolder
[18:24] <obert> ThinkT510: point is that when i modify kate config it will no be saved
[18:24] <ThinkT510> !info fluxbox | Taylr0x
[18:24] <ClientAlive> I better make a copy of this crap and do it on the copy
[18:24] <obert> ThinkT510: since kate's config is under root
[18:24] <ClientAlive> here goes nuthin I guess
[18:24] <nathansuchy> I need help configuring some software can anyone help
[18:24] <BluesKaj> marchtemp, dunno for sure , but on my setup I need pulse to get audio on websites to work
[18:24] <ThinkT510> obert: why are you trying to modify kate's config?
[18:25] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: What DE?
[18:25] <Taylr0x> Thanks ThinkT510. Is there any desktop environment you know of that's quite clean and minimalistic? I like the default Gnome but it just seems too 'beginner friendly'.
[18:25] <obert> ThinkT510: default config is weird: no line number and such
[18:25] <nathansuchy> I need to get Hulu Desktop Linux to recognize Adobe Flashplayer?
[18:25] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: try to get the files you need with find and adjust the command above
[18:25] <nathansuchy> I need to get Hulu Desktop Linux to recognize Adobe Flashplayer? Can anyone help???
[18:25] <ThinkT510> Taylr0x: my favourite is xfce
[18:25] <BluesKaj> marchtemp, on KDE and Unity
[18:25] <Threepwood> maybe thats what you need
[18:25] <nathansuchy> I need to get Hulu Desktop Linux to recognize Adobe Flashplayer?
[18:25] <Taylr0x> !info xfce
[18:26] <ioria> marchtemp: try to go in preferences and in audio select alsa with your audio device
[18:26] <ThinkT510> !info xfce4 | Taylr0x
[18:26] <threepi> anyone know of the best driver to use for radeon 5770?
[18:26] <cfhowlett> !info xfce4
[18:26] <Taylr0x> Ah many thanks!
[18:26] <marchtemp> ioria: What preferences, I don't have Unity installed.
[18:26] <Taylr0x> How simple is that to install/replace the default desktop environment on Ubuntu?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> ioria, his headphone work , his speakers don't
[18:27] <BluesKaj> headphones work
[18:27] <xangua> Taylr0x: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop , if you want xfce
[18:27] <ioria> marchtemp: i meant mplayer preferences, btw
[18:27] <threepi> for some odd reason i can't seem to access any programs that are installed int he /opt folder, albeit proper permissions set... is there a knowable reason for this?
[18:27] <ThinkT510> Taylr0x: no need to remove anything, just login to that desktop via the login manager (it will be default for next time)
[18:27] <BluesKaj> ok  ... this going nowhwere ..bbl
[18:28] <Taylr0x> Simple as that? Lovely. Many thanks for the help ThinkT510  and xangua! Will take a peak at that now. Looking at the screenshots it seems to be near what I'm after!
[18:28] <marchtemp> ioria: Speakers don't work with aplay or speaker-test. I'm pretty sure, mplayer will fail too.
[18:28] <obert> ThinkT510: no way to fix it?
[18:29] <Taylr0x> Before I do anything, can I install desktop environments on a USB live CD boot? Or do I need to have this installed as my main OS before doing anything that involved?
[18:29] <Taylr0x> Also, is there anything you recommend I run before installing Ubuntu to make sure all hardware is supported? As I have a feeling my graphics card may not be.
[18:29] <ThinkT510> obert: edit the config file with a text editor via sudo (commandline) or gksudo (graphical)
[18:30] <cfhowlett> !hardware|Taylor, check the list
[18:30] <ThinkT510> Taylr0x: what graphics?
[18:30] <MikeH> Can anyone help? I'm trying to install ubuntu, however it's trying to install to the USB stick (1GB) that I'm running the installer from rather than the 1TB HD that is connected
[18:30] <marchtemp> BluesKaj: ioria: Thank you, guys. I guess I'll just try to install pulse.
[18:31] <BluesKaj> marchtemp, It's your best bet ..necessary evil IMO
[18:31] <ioria> marchtemp: wait... maybe i found something
[18:32] <threepi> i guess no one knows about the /opt folder then eh?
[18:32] <ThinkT510> threepi: its optional
[18:32] <Taylr0x> ThinkT510, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470. I've had issues getting this working in the past (considerable time ago now though). Which put me off in the long run.
[18:32] <ioria> marchtemp: askununtu.com/questions/117842/no-sound-from-speakers-but-headphones-work
[18:32] <ThinkT510> Taylr0x: that'll work fine
[18:32] <threepi> ThinkT510, yes do you know why programs installed to there won't open even though their file permissions are correct?
[18:33] <ioria> marchtemp: askubuntu.com/questions/117842/no-sound-from-speakers-but-headphones-work
[18:33] <ThinkT510> threepi: no idea sorry
[18:33] <threepi> ThinkT510, thanks anyway
[18:33] <Taylr0x> ThinkT510, going to do a fresh install now me thinks! You've been a massive help. Many thanks and speak to you soon hopefully!
[18:33] <threepi> has anyone installed acrobat reader, successfully on ubuntu?
[18:34] <Taylr0x> On a side note, this new bar that they've introduced on the left hand side of the screen. Do you have to have this on display/ at all?
[18:34] <cfhowlett> threepi, yes
[18:34] <Taylr0x> With the default installation I mean.
[18:34] <ThinkT510> Taylr0x: thats the default environment: unity
[18:34] <ThinkT510> !xubuntu | Taylr0x
[18:34] <Taylr0x> ThinkT510, Can you relocate it to the botom/top?
[18:34] <ThinkT510> Taylr0x: no
[18:34] <SunilJoshi> Hi, can i configure Terminal to paste on right click of my mouse instead of middle click...
[18:35] <threepi> cfhowlett, what folder is it installed into?
[18:35] <Taylr0x> Oooh. Might give Xubtuntu a bash now. Be back soon and thank you again!~
[18:35] <jcabo_> Taylr0x: if you want something more classical, you can try Kubuntu too (my personal favorite)
[18:36] <cfhowlett> threepi, oh man, that was so long ago ... I don't even have it anymore as evince does the job ... sorry
[18:36] <IboS> what's the less memory eater between all ubuntu distros ?
[18:36] <l057c0d3r> jcabo_,  heh or gnome cairo-dock setup
[18:36] <l057c0d3r> http://uppix.net/4/7/1/62aa966e6e6efbf25af857b3c9e89.png
[18:36] <IboS> i have an hold pc
[18:36] <threepi> evince doesn't do highlighting right?
[18:36] <cfhowlett> IboS, xubuntu and lubuntu are both lightweight
[18:36] <ThinkT510> !lubuntu | IboS
[18:36] <obert> ThinkT510: is that the classic way? why there's Preferences in the menu then?:)
[18:37] <heywood> ran apt-get dist-upgrade two nights ago. got a message saying "restart required" (or something along those lines). after i did so, i can no longer ssh into the box (error is "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host").
[18:37] <ThinkT510> obert: no idea, i don't use kate
[18:37] <obert> ThinkT510: generally speaikin
[18:37] <ThinkT510> obert: do you see a save button for your preferences?
[18:38] <obert> ThinkT510: sure
[18:38] <heywood> anyone else having issues with ssh like this? do ubuntu upgrades mess with /etc/hosts.allow or /etc/hosts.deny ?
[18:39] <l057c0d3r> heywood.. no sure but you should check to make sure its all set up right..  maybe check the ssh key like you did when you created it for the first time ext....
[18:39] <l057c0d3r> not really sure though dont use it much
[18:39] <l057c0d3r> and never had that problem
[18:40] <big_mike> hey guys, could somebody help me with an issue with nouveau?
[18:40] <obert> ThinkT510: something are weird
[18:40] <alami> any one can tell one why i can't find irssi silc client package
[18:40] <matiasbatero> hi big_mike
[18:41] <jcabo_> heywood: here is a website, the comments in the article might give some clues: http://edoceo.com/notabene/ssh-exchange-identification
[18:41] <heywood> jcabo_: heh. i'm looking at that very page in another window...
[18:41] <MrL0ngbowman> KDE ftw!
[18:41] <matiasbatero> what is your problem?.. i'm not expert..
[18:41] <WhiteRussian> +OK FE5691v18Ky1KpcUr07lXNX.
[18:42] <jcabo_> heywood: sorry I can only give you a website, I haven't experienced the problem personally. Also, review the sshd configuration (login as root is almost always disabled for instance)
[18:42] <heywood> jcabo_: no worries. problem is that i'm not in the same place as the server, so i have to walk someone through troubleshooting.
[18:42] <W|cKeD> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/ <-- is this site legit? why can't i get the linux-header in my synaptic package manager!? thanx
[18:43] <SunilJoshi> Hi, can i configure Terminal to paste on right click of my mouse instead of middle click...
[18:43] <heywood> add in the fact that they're not computer-savvy (and definitely not comfortable on the commandline), and a slightly wonky keyboard... and you get the fun i'm having this afternoon.
[18:43] <ThinkT510> W|cKeD: ppas, all of them, are unsupported here
[18:43] <big_mike> matiasbatero: Yeah so this happened multiple times, where XOrg would crash and and my cpu usage goes through the roof because nouveau is logging to it. I end up with a 2+ gb log file of the same message
[18:44] <heywood> jcabo_: FWIW, not logging in as root. (root sshd logins are disabled, as is root in general on that machine.)
[18:44] <llutz> obert: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && find ~/.kde -type f -iname '*kate*' |xargs ls -l  |pastebinit"
[18:44] <llutz> obert: then paste the resulting link here please
[18:44] <heywood> jcabo_: weird thing is that the problems started right after i rebooted following the dist-upgrade. up until then, everything was working just fine.
[18:45] <heywood> so the ubuntu update seems to have changed/borked something.
[18:45] <jcabo_> heywood: in this website:  http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com.ar/2010/02/dist-upgrade-misnomer-confusion.html a comment says  "I've found that during a run of do-release-upgrade I'll be unable to ssh in to that machine"
[18:45] <obert> llutz: that will make my computer exploding?
[18:45] <stevesmename> I could use some assistance understanding what "alsamixer" is and will do? I have a current problem where I have no sound cards found. I read something that alsamixer is just an app that will allow you to change your volume settings but I have a problem where sound cards are not seen. I ask here because I saw another post that states "alsamixer" installed will find your sound cards too.
[18:45] <llutz> obert: no, it will just give us the chance to look at some permissions of kate-configfiles
[18:46] <obert> ls -l isnt enought?:)
[18:46] <Arvendu> Hello guys i m back :D
[18:46] <llutz> obert: paste those lines,but use pastebin NOT here
[18:46] <heywood> stevesmename: take a look at http://linux.die.net/man/1/alsamixer if you haven't already.
[18:46] <obert> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1633948/
[18:46] <heywood> stevesmename: it's text-based, which is clunky, but it might work.
[18:46] <ThinkT510> stevesmename: alsamixer is run in a terminal, it lets you manage your sound settings
[18:46] <Arvendu> nexus u here?
[18:46] <obert> llutz: it gives me the pastebin url at end ;)
[18:47] <Arvendu> i have installed ubuntu now need really some help
[18:47] <llutz> obert: "sudo find ~/.kde  -iname '*kate*' |xargs chown ar:ar "
[18:47] <jcabo_> heywood: here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/connection-to-ssh-closing-immediately-520565/       "You have a problem with your ssh upgrade. Uninstall, then reinstall."
[18:47] <stevesmename> heywood++
[18:47] <stevesmename> ThinkT510++
[18:47] <llutz> obert: and thats is one reason you shouldn't use "sudo kate" (there is gksudo)
[18:47] <Arvendu> when i am logged in it is just normal user how can i logged in using root user?
[18:47] <ThinkT510> !root | Arvendu
[18:47] <obert> llutz: i never use sudo
[18:47] <Argo> Hello guys
[18:48] <jcabo_> heywood: it says to do: 'dpkg -l | grep ssh'   Make sure all the ssh packages are uninstalled. Then reinstall ssh. 'apt-get remove --purge openssh-client openssh-server' 'apt-get install ssh'
[18:48] <obert> llutz: chown: illegal act
[18:48] <stevesmename> Argo: Affleck? :P
[18:48] <Arvendu> k Think can u pm u please ?
[18:48] <llutz> obert: sudo find ~/.kde  -iname '*kate*' -exec chown ar:ar "{}" \;
[18:49] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: yes, because you asked nicely
[18:49] <W|cKeD> ThinkT510, i see thanx, i'm just desperate on how i can config my BCM4312 wireless in ubuntu 10.04 2.6.32-21-generic STA broadcom ain't working i'm plannin to use b43 instead
[18:49] <matiasbatero> Arvendu: use sudo, or gksu
[18:49] <obert> done
[18:49] <llutz> obert: did you copy those configs from somewhere then? by default those wouldn't be root-owned
[18:49] <ThinkT510> !b43 | W|cKeD
[18:49] <heywood> jcabo_: thanks. hadn't thought of that, but i'll give it a try. (or rather i will ask my "proxy" to do so.)
[18:49] <Arvendu> thanks :)
[18:49] <Argo> I'd love to try Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro, but when I use the instructions ( http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx ) and reboot with rEFIt installed, i get a "error loading operating system".
[18:49] <obert> llutz: i only launched ubuntu software and installed it as user
[18:50] <llutz> obert: thats odd, sounds like a bug
[18:50] <obert> -as user perhaps:p
[18:50] <heywood> jcabo_: do you know if apt's postflight scripts for ssh(d) automatically start the daemon once it's up and running?
[18:50] <heywood> er, i mean, once it's installed?
[18:50] <obert> why? shouldnt be correct to have http://paste.ubuntu.com/1633948/ ?
[18:50] <llutz> obert: userconfigs are not to be root-owned
[18:51] <jcabo_> heywood: yes, after an upgrade to sshd it automatically comes back up
[18:51] <obert> llutz:  no?
[18:51] <llutz> obert: you cannot change them, if they are
[18:51] <llutz> obert: it makes no sense at all
[18:51] <obert> llutz: now it seems to be fixed anyway
[18:51] <jcabo_> heywood: if it wasn't up, you would get a different error, like ' computer refusing connection' or something
[18:51] <heywood> jcabo_: ok. lastly, would a remove/install overwrite /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[18:51] <llutz> obert: "find ~ -uid 0"
[18:52] <heywood> jcabo_: no, no, i'm quite sure it's up.
[18:52] <jcabo_> heywood: yes (especially with -purge option)
[18:52] <heywood> i can telnet to the port and get the ssh prompts.
[18:52] <jcabo_> heywood: if you do apt-get remove (without -purge option) it should be left intact
[18:52] <obert> llutz: what is htat
[18:52] <isaias> How do I dualboot Ubuntu and Windows when I have ubuntu already installed?
[18:52] <llutz> obert: find more files root-owned
[18:52] <llutz> obert: there shuldn't be any
[18:53] <obert> heh lots of them instead. llutz: this is a vm btw
[18:53] <heywood> jcabo_: i can do something like "cp sshd_config sshd_config.bak", unless the remove -purge step removes the entire directory.
[18:53] <llutz> obert: vm/no-vm doesn't matter, something is odd there...
[18:53] <obert> llutz: a bug could be acceptable perhaps
[18:53] <heywood> does -purge do anything else that might be useful for the clean install?
[18:53] <jcabo_> heywood: let me see
[18:54] <obert> llutz: dunno, thanks for the tip though and help
[18:54] <heywood> sorry, if i were sitting at the machine this would be trivial to check. but i'm like a thousand miles away from there :o
[18:54] <janisozaur> is there libreoffice 4 ppa for precise?
[18:54] <obert> llutz: when i install something via software package config files should be owned by user?
[18:54] <llutz> obert: if you encounter more issues, just check/repair permissions. this only is valid for users $HOME, not outside!
[18:55] <Argo> Does anyone have experience with booting ubuntu on OS X using a USB-drive?
[18:55] <llutz> obert: packages won't install personal-configs in most cases. they will be created when a user runs the program and then will be user-owned
[18:55] <obert> llutz: yup, but i destroied a machine some years ago trying to fix permissionsd, since that i never plaied anymore with them
[18:55] <jcabo_> heywood: take a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postrm  in the 'purge)' section, that is what it does
[18:56] <obert> my typing is horrible, sorry
[18:56] <Yankee_Bruce> new to linux/ubuntu.  do i need a virus protection application?
[18:56] <obert> Yankee_Bruce: no virus under linux
[18:56] <heywood> jcabo_: erm, i'd sort of need to be at the console, no? is that source available online somewhere?
[18:56] <jcabo_> heywood: the conffiles removed with purge are those listed in the file /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.conffiles
[18:56] <ThinkT510> !av | Yankee_Bruce
[18:56] <llutz> obert: as i said, usually there shouldn't be any files inside your $HOME not being owned by you
[18:57] <obert> oh
[18:57] <Yankee_Bruce> lack of trying, or it is inherently resistant
[18:57] <jcabo_> heywood: let me see about pastebin'in
[18:57] <heywood> jcabo_: if you have that handy on your machine, could you pastebin it?
[18:57] <matiasbatero> Yankee_Bruce: No except you have installed windows on a partition i you want to clean that
[18:57] <heywood> jcabo_: GMTA
[18:57] <obert> llutz: ok thanks. that's a good clarification
[18:57] <obert> llutz: btw what is $ ?:)
[18:57] <llutz> obert: in what context?
[18:57] <Yankee_Bruce> I have installed as a dual boot.  originally XP, now with Ubuntu
[18:58] <obert> llutz: which lang
[18:58] <BEC> adamk, moreover the LG 32" is being detected as 72"!
[18:58] <Sendoushi> hey guys
[18:58] <llutz> obert: dollar-sign? as in $HOME?
[18:58] <heywood> BEC: that's a really inexpensive way to get a much larger monitor.
[18:58] <matiasbatero> Yankee_Bruce, yeah, virus does not affect linux..
[18:58] <BEC> heywood, lol
[18:58] <llutz> obert: marks a variable (echo $HOME)
[18:58] <obert> llutz: yep. i dont remember nothing except php that using $:)
[18:59] <obert> llutz: do you know which lang is?
[18:59] <llutz> obert: most shells using it
[18:59] <Yankee_Bruce> matiasbatero: that is good news.  I was trying to figure out how to get my Nortons to run on it
[18:59] <jcabo_> heywood: here you go: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1633991/
[18:59] <obert> bash huh?
[18:59] <Sendoushi> been starting to use ubuntu and having some fun with it. Now i want to do a virtual machine for a home server. i'm a developer which wants to try out the development on my own network. Talking about LAMP and Node.js. Should I go with ubuntu or server or... even devian?
[18:59] <isaias> How do I dualboot Ubuntu and Windows when I have ubuntu already installed?
[18:59] <Argo> Does anyone have experience with running Ubuntu from a USB-drive with a Mac?
[18:59] <llutz> so does bash
[18:59] <matiasbatero> Yankee_Bruce, but you have problems cleaning XP you must consider to use some antivirus on linux to solve some problems
[18:59] <obert> llutz: indeed. thanks
[19:00] <llutz> obert: VARTEST="myvariable" ; echo $VARTEST           like this
[19:00] <l057c0d3r> Yankee_Bruce, wait are you trying to put norton on linux ??
[19:00] <obert> mhm weird syntax
[19:00] <Yankee_Bruce> natiasbatero, had a problem with a root_kit on my laptop, but finally got it cleared up.  trying to get linux on it, but disk space is limited
[19:00] <ClientAlive> If I do -> "for a in sender:/home/uname/Path/Path/*.tar.gz; do echo scp $a /mnt/media/Video/Movies/Mainstream/; done"  I get -> "scp duckduckgoose:/home/shine/Downloads/Torrent/*.tar.gz /mnt/media/Video/Movies/Mainstream/"  <-  This is close but not perfect. I'm stuck. Any ideas?
[19:00] <Arvendu> how can i make ppoe connection in ubuntu and dial so my internet will work
[19:01] <ClientAlive> ha ha
[19:01] <ClientAlive> woops!
[19:01] <ClientAlive> ahh well  :)
[19:01] <compdoc> no laughing
[19:01] <ThinkT510> !pppoe | Arvendu
[19:02] <sepehr> hi
[19:02] <Guest37383> j
[19:02] <Guest37383> l
[19:02] <matiasbatero> Yankee_Bruce, mm i think that using norton isn't the best choice
[19:02] <W|cKeD> is it safe if i'll do a complete removal in my synaptic package manager bout linux-headers that are installed that i didn't know? i got a linux-header 2.6.32-21-generic but i saw some headers installed and related to 2.6.32-21-generic i don't know when and how .... is it safe? thanx
[19:02] <Guest37383> salam
[19:02] <heywood> jcabo_: sweet -- thanks. if i read it right, there's no harm in blowing away the host keys -- i'll just get the prompt to add the public side upon first connection. but if i don't create sshd_config.bak, the entire /etc/ssh gets deleted.
[19:02] <Arvendu> Thanks :D
[19:03] <Guest37383> :)
[19:03] <isaias> Argo: Mac was made using linux, so it shouldn't be a problem for it to work. I don't recommend using an usb drive due to the small amount of memory. External HDD would work best. Or a dualboot would work alright though
[19:03] <Guest37383> k********
[19:03] <jcabo_> heywood: I dunno, but I hope it has been helpful to you
[19:03] <heywood> jcabo_: maybe i'll have my friend do a "cp /etc/ssh/sshd_config ~/sshd_config.bak" -- so i keep a reminder of what i did for the configs, but allow the remove/uninstall -purge to proceed cleanly.
[19:03] <biglinux-buddha> opa!!!
[19:04] <isaias> Argo: and the speed. Ubuntu would run slow because of usb
[19:04] <heywood> jcabo_: yes, that's been extremely helpful. thanks!!
[19:04] <jcabo_> heywood: you're welcome!!
[19:04] <ClientAlive> need it to run the cammand like: "scp sender:/path/path/plugInFileName1.tar.gz sender:/path/path/plugInFileName2.tar.gz sender:/path/path/plugInFileName3.tar.gz ./path/to/receiving/"
[19:04] <heywood> cheers all.
[19:04] <ClientAlive> (quotes jsut to offset what I was saying here in irc
[19:05] <Arvendu> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:05] <Arvendu> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:05] <Argo> isaias: I'm trying to get it working on a 16 GB generic USB-drive. I followed the instructions here (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx) but I keep getting a "error loading operating system" when rebooting and get to the screen where I can select where I want to boot from.
[19:05] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, and what is the problem? if you know file names you can use bash "echo number{one,two,three}" expansion syntax
[19:05] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: you can only have one apt-get running
[19:05] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: do you have the software centre open?
[19:05] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: did you try a scp `find sourceFolder -name "*tar.gz"` user@host:targetFolder approach?
[19:06] <ClientAlive> janisozaur: well the problem is I don't know bash very well
[19:06] <Threepwood> (backticks are important here)
[19:06] <Arvendu> no
[19:06] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: synaptic?
[19:06] <Arvendu> now command working but pkg not found :S
[19:06] <ClientAlive> Threepwood: that runs the command on the receiver computer not the sender (which is where I would need the result to come from)
[19:07] <W|cKeD> is it safe if i'll do a complete removal in my synaptic package manager bout linux-headers that are installed that i didn't know? i got a linux-header 2.6.32-21-generic but i saw some headers installed and related to 2.6.32-21-generic i don't know when and how .... is it safe? :(
[19:07] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: what package?
[19:07] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, do you know filenames on remote?
[19:07] <Arvendu> now command working but pkg not found :S
[19:07] <Arvendu> sudo apt-get install pppoeconf
[19:07] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: what version of ubuntu?
[19:08] <Arvendu> Think in software center it is showing installed :S
[19:08] <Threepwood> ClientAlive: do you want to execute "scp" on the sender or the receiver side ? (you got ssh, so just login into the receiver if thats a problem)
[19:08] <Threepwood> erm sender i mean
[19:08] <Arvendu> hold one Think m8 i am working ;)
[19:09] <ClientAlive> janisozaur: is transfer files from local to rempte (ie: scp file1.tar.gz file2.tar.gz... /path/on/remote/  So I'm logged into remote having done a "scp remoteName". The files to transfer on local are mixed wtih other filees in the directory but all *.tar.gz are the ones to transfer over.
[19:10] <ClientAlive> *remote*
[19:10] <Arvendu> sudo pppoeconf when i did this command ethernet is not detect ?
[19:11] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, for i in `ssh remote "ls -1 /path/to/*.tar.gz"` ; do scp remote:$i local; done
[19:11] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: do you have an ethernet cable connected?
[19:11] <ClientAlive> ok
[19:11] <ClientAlive> cool
[19:13] <ClientAlive> janisozaur: now ls will put a \n after every file name. Is that a problem? As bash will interpret that as multiple hitting <enter> won't it?
[19:13] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, no, not a problem. see this: "for i in `seq 1 10`; do echo $i; done"
[19:14] <ClientAlive> ok
[19:14] <ClientAlive> thanks man  :)
[19:14] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, np
[19:15] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, just out of curiosity, have you tried this: "scp remote:/path/to/*.tar.gz local" ?
[19:15] <Asshole1> can i flood
[19:15] <ThinkT510> Asshole1: no
[19:15] <ThinkT510> !paste | Asshole1
[19:15] <Asshole1> o
[19:15] <ClientAlive> janisozaur: one last thing. Will it be /path/to*.tar.gz or  /path/to/*.tar.gz
[19:15] <ClientAlive> ??
[19:15] <ClientAlive> the latter right?
[19:16] <BluesKaj> hey Asshole1 , change your nick pls
[19:16] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, yes, the latter. bash does not auto-complete directories like this. you could try zsh, though
[19:16] <ClientAlive> ok
[19:17] <mefistofeles> hey, what's the boot parameter to load vesa generic driver? Ubuntu tries loading with radeon driver and that crashes the computer...
[19:18] <ThinkT510> mefistofeles: you may need to force it by using a xorg.conf
[19:18] <ThinkT510> !xorgconf | mefistofeles
[19:18] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, just checked, "scp remote:/path/to/*.tar.gz local" should work ;)
[19:18] <mefistofeles> ThinkT510: no, for live usb, no system installed yet
[19:19] <ThinkT510> mefistofeles: sorry, no idea
[19:19] <mefistofeles> ThinkT510: ok, no problem
[19:20] <ClientAlive> janisozaur: are you sure this is going the right direction?  Need to transfer files:  local to remote (not other way)
[19:20] <ClientAlive> somehting like:  for i in `ssh duckduckgoose:"ls -1 /home/shine/Downloads/Torrent*.tar.gz"` ; do scp duckduckgoose:$i  /mnt/media/Video/Movies/Mainstream/; done
[19:21] <ClientAlive> but I think then that only the file name will be plugged in on the sending part of the command (not the entire path) as that is written what I pasted
[19:21] <leo__> alguem fala portugues?
[19:21] <ThinkT510> ClientAlive: ssh /path/to/local/file remote@ip:/path/to/put/file
[19:21] <alienaut> hello! what is difference between 32 and 64 bit versions
[19:22] <ThinkT510> alienaut: 32
[19:22] <alienaut> ThinkT510, lol
[19:23] <ThinkT510> alienaut: if you have 64bit processor then there is little reason not to use 64bit
[19:23] <shade34321> I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 via live USB and whenver I try to start up using the live USB I get an error stating that sda doesn't support DPO or FUA.  When I try and boot up using a live CD it just gets past boot from CD screen and hangs. Both the USB and Cd work since I tested it on another system, actually just installed ubuntu on another system using this USB 30 minutes prior. any suggestions on how ot fix this?
[19:23] <Threepwood> ThinkT510: normally it should be 42, but they didnt come to 74 .. yet
[19:23] <marahin> alienaut, for example 64 bit OS cannot into >4GB RAM.
[19:23] <janisozaur> ClientAlive, oh, if local -> remote, then "scp /local/path/to/*.tar.gz remote"
[19:23] <Gavilan3> what's the best IM for MSN + Gmail?
[19:23] <Gavilan3> Gtalk
[19:24] <Gavilan3> which can also check how many mails you currelty have in your email account
[19:24] <ClientAlive> ok
[19:24] <alienaut> oh. why 32 bit version is recommended on download page of ubuntu desktop?
[19:24] <ThinkT510> alienaut: in case the person doing the download doesn't know which processor they have
[19:25] <ozy> i'm trying to boot ubuntu off a usb stick, and all I get is some goofy icon at the bottom of the screen for a whie. It looks like a 'movie' icon, a dash, and then a person spread eagle with a cricle around it. After a while. it goes to a flashing underscore at the top left of the screen and does nothing else...
[19:25] <marahin> alienaut, because 32 bit version works on both 64 supporting CPUs, and thom which don't
[19:25] <ThinkT510> alienaut: 32bit will work on both
[19:25] <BluesKaj> alienaut, , that's only if you're unsure of the architecture
[19:25] <alienaut> thanks guys!
[19:25] <agarwood> hi, i installed 12.04 and every days I have freeze...
[19:26] <ozy> this hardware is a little goofy, and I know I have to add boot options to grub, but I am not even getting that far...
[19:26] <alienaut> 14.04 is next LTS am i right?
[19:26] <izzydojo> anyone have knowledge about dell poweredge and installing server edition ?
[19:26] <SwedeMike> alienaut: yes.
[19:27] <Threepwood> waht about 13.04 ?
[19:27] <ThinkT510> alienaut: yes
[19:27] <ThinkT510> Threepwood: a regular release
[19:27] <Threepwood> ThinkT510: k
[19:28] <ThinkT510> Threepwood: lts's are released every 2 years
[19:30] <izzydojo> what is a good ubuntu form that i can post a question on that will get alot of eyes ?
[19:30] <ThinkT510> !forum | izzydojo
[19:30] <izzydojo> i need info on weather or not a sever edition is the problem im having
[19:31] <izzydojo> i have a power edge server i installed the latest release and it loads fine one time then cant seem to load the second time
[19:31] <nick_h> in /etc/apt/sources.list , is "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal main restricted universe multiverse" the same as 4 copies of "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal X", where "X" is "main", "restricted", "universe", and "multiverse"?
[19:31] <shade34321> I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 via live USB and whenver I try to start up using the live USB I get an error stating that sda doesn't support DPO or FUA.  When I try and boot up using a live CD it just gets past boot from CD screen and hangs. Both the USB and Cd work since I tested it on another system, actually just installed ubuntu on another system using this USB 30 minutes prior. any suggestions on how to fix this?
[19:31] <jrib> nick_h: yes
[19:31] <nick_h> jrib: thanks, mate
[19:32] <ozy> i must be doing something wrong . I get ubuntu 12.10 to boot off a usb, hit f6 to add numa=off, apci=off and pci=lastbus=255, and hit enter, and ubuntu doesnt even try to boot, it just freezes
[19:32] <michal_> hi
[19:32] <ozy> wait.... it's just insanely slow. I waited until I was sure it was froze, typed out that last message, and the screen changed right as I hit send
[19:33] <GeekSquid> ozy: you might want to remove quiet and add nosplash so you can see what it is doing
[19:33] <ozy> ah, it finally booted
[19:33] <shadej> anybody who knows how to make a program to run as root at startup
[19:33] <ozy> once I get it up, this is a headless box (cyanogenmod 10.1 build box, hopefully) so it wont matter
[19:34] <jrib> shadej: what program?
[19:34] <ClientAlive> janisozaur: can you please see my pm to you?
[19:34] <GeekSquid> ozy: android device? interesting
[19:35] <shade34321> jrib:  are you talking to me?
[19:35] <jrib> shade34321: no
[19:35] <shade34321> mmk
[19:35] <ozy> GeekSquid: the only guides for building cyanogenmod use ubuntu, so I figure I ought to start there.
[19:36] <jrib> shade34321: you can try the minimal installer and select ubuntu desktop
[19:36] <datsmoida> you guys have any idea about after i upgraded ubuntu to 12.04 mysql is running properly but i cannot log in to phpmyadmin
[19:36] <jrib> shade34321: also, you should actually verify the contents of the cd (it's an option somewhere when you boot from the cd/usb)
[19:37] <shade34321> jrib:  ok, I'll try that first
[19:38] <jrib> shade34321: I don't actually know anything about the error that you mentioned; I'm just suggesting things to try
[19:38] <GeekSquid> ozy: you build in adb, (really offtopic) ...  there is room #Cyanogenmod with 430 people in it
[19:39] <shade34321> jrib:  lol, the only reason why I haven't verified the contents is because I just used it and they worked but it can't hurt to check it.
[19:40] <Mathias> possible to have user-based /etc/hosts?
[19:42] <GeekSquid> Mathias: Normally users would have a public_html folder in their home. and apache user location shows up as www.site.com/~username
[19:43] <Mathias> GeekSquid: that's not what i want, i just want aliases for ip's on a user basis
[19:43] <Physicist> I get an old computer and tryed install ubuntu. The system is an i686 - is that the same than i386? I have to download an ISO image i386?
[19:44] <Arvendu> how can i connect windows server ?
[19:44] <ThinkT510> Physicist: i386 will work on i686
[19:44] <ThinkT510> !samba | Arvendu
[19:44] <Mathias> oh yeah, is it possible to mount a nfs-share on a specific network?
[19:44] <Arvendu> i do not want to transfar files just want to connect using remote desktop
[19:45] <Physicist> ThinkT510, Thank you! I just would like to know that. I will download the image!
[19:45] <ozy> GeekSquid: i'm planning on following this guide to get it to compile at least once : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37155072, then I might switch to trying to get it to work with rhel or fedora (my usual distro)
[19:45] <ThinkT510> !vnc | Arvendu
[19:45] <Physicist> ThinkT510, One more thing: 32 or 64?
[19:46] <sn0wman> can someone solve this http://www.reddit.com/r/tipofmytongue/comments/189egz/tomt_please_help_video_ancient_aliens_religion/
[19:46] <ThinkT510> Physicist: if you know its only i686 then you have to use 32bit
[19:46] <DeadWeas1l> I need help.  I've been fighting packet loss like crazy on my wifi.  ubuntu 12.04, RTL8187 drivers, on an alfa AWUS036h.
[19:46] <DeadWeas1l> 73% this ping to google.com
[19:46] <Physicist> ThinkT510: Thank you!
[19:46] <Arvendu> any other app ?
[19:47] <ThinkT510> Arvendu: i've used teamviewer but it isn't open source
[19:48] <Arvendu> remote desktop viewer ?
[19:49] <ThinkT510> !vnc | Arvendu
[19:49] <ThinkT510> hmm, ubottu may be broke
[19:49] <Mathias> ThinkT510: it got tired and went to bed
[19:50]  * mandoguit starts digging grave
[19:50] <Mathias> i think it's going to ping out soon
[19:50] <GeekSquid> ubottu responds really slowly
[19:50] <Sendoushi> guys... i'm using ubuntu server under vm on a macbook pro and trying to get the right keyboard. portuguese macbook pro keyboard layout. anyone help?
[19:53] <jorge> h
[19:53] <FihuFil> hi
[19:59] <Guest5473> I have a server that reports "/dev/xvda1 will be checked for errors at next reboot".  I've set "tune2fs -c -1 /dev/xvda1".  Do I need to do anything else to prevent it actually performing a check on next reboot?
[19:59] <Noskcaj> does anyone know what happened to the ultimate edition website?
[20:01] <gueriLLaPunK>  How do I make it so when I type sudo <cmd> that I dont have to keep typing my password? I has 12.04
[20:01] <ThinkT510> Noskcaj: we don't keep track of unsupported ubuntu offshoots here
[20:02] <kantlivelong> anyone here using kernel 3.5 with a Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty? Was wondering if it worked yet..
[20:02] <Noskcaj> ThinkT510, ok :(
[20:02] <ThinkT510> gueriLLaPunK: i would advise against doing that
[20:04] <ampd_> where did my soldering iron go? i've been looking for it for the past hour
[20:05] <kantlivelong> gueriLLaPunK: add "USERNAMEHERE   ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL" to /etc/sudoers   but as ThinkT510 said, its not recommended
[20:06] <Steevca> Hi,i know this is not the place to ask,and i apologize. But can someone help me to transfer a boot.img via fastboot to my phone. I am not getting any answers on #android-root and i need this fast.
[20:06] <Steevca> I apologize again.
[20:06] <gueriLLaPunK> thank you very much, kantlivelong
[20:06] <kantlivelong> Steevca: not the channel for it at all :)
[20:06] <GeekSquid> gueriLLaPunK: better way sudo -i
[20:06] <kantlivelong> indeed sudo -i
[20:07] <gueriLLaPunK> ah i see
[20:07] <gueriLLaPunK> switches me to root
[20:07] <Steevca> kantlivelong yes i know,but i need this fast. And i know that there are some linux developers that can help me.
[20:07] <Steevca> I am asking on a few chanells right now,and not getting help. :/
[20:07] <Steevca> This sucks.
[20:07] <yeik> I recently have had weird issues when I am using ssh keys into my linux box. the first session will deny the private key and ask for a password. all other sessions accept the private key and connect me.
[20:07] <ThinkT510> Steevca: doesn't make this channel android support
[20:07] <Steevca> Ok,nevermind.
[20:08] <kantlivelong> andriod handles its boot differently than regular x86.
[20:08] <Terry> I've recently moved from Windows 7 to Ubuntu which I just down loaded and beginning to learn.  I was using PopPeeper for my few Gmail accounts,but I see it is not supported in Ubuntu with out Wine.  Googled it and "Mail Notification" come up.  Can anyone walk me through down loading and installing - Please!
[20:09] <DeadWeasel> What is acceptable packet loss for wifi that is one 10 ft away through a ceiling?
[20:09] <DeadWeasel> i ahve a great strong signal, but I'm getting packet loss
[20:09] <Mathias> Terry: why don't you use thunderbird? :)
[20:09] <kostkon> Terry, which version of ubuntu
[20:09] <DeadWeasel> starts small, then grows
[20:09] <DeadWeasel> 12.04
[20:09] <GeekSquid> Terry: ubuntu has built in Gmail notification, you may not be able to use poppeeper but ubuntu has a solution
[20:09] <kunji> DeadWeasel: 0%
[20:09] <kantlivelong> Terry: you mean this? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/email-notification-in-ubuntu-popper
[20:09] <DeadWeasel> kunji: that's what I thought.
[20:09] <Terry> Don't use Thunderbird because most of my accounts have been with Gmail for years
[20:10] <DeadWeasel> I just rebooted, which helps at first, but them my wifi becomes unusable.
[20:10] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: depends on driver..
[20:10] <DeadWeasel> 12.04 x64, RTL8187 drivers for a Alfa awus036h
[20:10] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: some wifi drivers are a bit buggy
[20:10] <DeadWeasel> my windows laptop does not have this issue
[20:10] <Terry> I'm using the lastest download...12.XX
[20:11] <GeekSquid> Terry: thunderbird is a client, just like poppeeper, it accesses multiple email accounts, including gmail and notifies you when email comes in
[20:11] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: RTL 8187, are those bugging with ALFA awus036h?  Icouldn't find anything googling
[20:11] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: i did read it can help to install aircrack and use their drivers
[20:11] <kantlivelong> i have the same alfa and had issues years ago.. not sure about recent kernels.
[20:12] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: might be a nightmare to use theirs :)
[20:12] <DeadWeasel> probably. kantlivelong
[20:12] <freshmint> hi is there any option let the unity-lens-file use the shell command locate for finding any file in my root tree
[20:12] <Terry> OK....That answers most of my question for now....I will down load Thunderbird and see what I can do...thanks,
[20:12] <escott> yeik, for encrypted home you have to move the keyfile outside of the $HOME
[20:12] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: sometimes I have Zero loss
[20:12] <DeadWeasel> but other i get 80%
[20:13] <DeadWeasel> or more
[20:13] <kantlivelong> hmm i cant find anything i about Core3D from creative on 3.5.. other than it was planned
[20:13] <ekaj> Triyng to apt-get in Ubuntu 12.10, keep getting "W: Failed to fetch http://URL" - something wicked happened resolving 'security.ubuntu.com:http' )-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[20:13] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: router is wrt54gs running tomato
[20:13] <GeekSquid> Terry: let me save you some time, don't download thunderbird, apt-get it.... "sudo apt-get install thunderbird"
[20:13] <ThinkT510> Terry: thunderbird should already be default, no need to download it
[20:13] <kunji> DeadWeasel: Hmm, the Hak5 forums might have some info, as I know they like to use alfa's, not sure which models though
[20:13] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: wow thats old router :)
[20:13] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong:  I thought about that, it's passed a lot of packets, should I just upgrade
[20:14] <DeadWeasel> ?
[20:14] <Terry> So is apt-get on the desk top?
[20:14] <DeadWeasel> it could be hardware, but it doesn't happen on other machines
[20:14] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: ^
[20:14] <kunji> DeadWeasel:Also have you checked ping from just the router out?
[20:14] <ThinkT510> !software | Terry
[20:14] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: if your lazy and have the money to spare just buy a wifi card with more support
[20:14] <kunji> DeadWeasel:I recently had a case where just one machine was getting about 15% packet loss, oddly enough rebooting my modem is what fixed it
[20:14] <DeadWeasel> not sure how on tomato router.  let me look that up.  kantlivelong
[20:14] <yeik> escott, it shouldn't be encrypted as I always have screen sessions up, so it isn't the first login, just first session from that device (like my phone, if rebooted and connecting back via ssh)
[20:15] <DeadWeasel> kunji: rebooting sets me straight for a while.  although I reboote dthis time and had 22% loss, now Im' at 0% loss.   weird
[20:15] <Terry> Book marked that and will give it look...thanks
[20:16] <kunji> DeadWeasel: Right, I know you tried rebooting the comp, but also try the router and the modem
[20:16] <W|cKeD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1634201/ <[20:16] <DeadWeasel> oh, the router, brainfart, thanks.  I will do that when this connection gets bad.  I'm watching my packet loss right now.
[20:17] <DeadWeasel> anyone know a good command to measure packet loss?
[20:17] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: ping
[20:17] <kantlivelong> lol
[20:17] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: ping w/ flood option is good too
[20:17] <DeadWeasel> ping is what I was doing, but I have to stop and start it repeatedly, I'll loook up flood
[20:18] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: ^
[20:18] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: mtr
[20:18] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: <3 mtr
[20:18] <DeadWeasel> so put in mtr 0.0.0.0
[20:18] <DeadWeasel> or external I p?
[20:19] <DeadWeasel> whoa, that's a sweet tool!  kantlivelong
[20:19] <DeadWeasel> thanks!
[20:19] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: everytime im on a windows pc i cringe when i have to use ping/tracert
[20:20] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: no doubt.  so glad I'm not doing IT anymore!
[20:20] <Taylr0x> Good evening all.
[20:20] <tomv_> I think this is a quickie.. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04.  when I search for a file from the unity dash, I can see the file, but I can't figure out how to open the containing folder, or learn where it is located...
[20:21] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: eh ive moved up from user support and just talk to servers all day.. the servers dont say mean things ;)
[20:21] <ACubed10> what's up everyone
[20:21] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: and they don't give you the stinkeye when you are helping them  :)
[20:21] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: hehe...
[20:22] <mathias__> Hello guys, I got a problem with my microphone under ubuntu 12.04
[20:22] <mathias__> It keeps picking up every sound on my computer
[20:22] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: from the supported hardware page:  Support for encrypted wireless during installation is currently limited to WEP.
[20:22] <mathias__> let's say I'm in a skype call and watch a youtube clip at the same time. the people in the conversation will hear EXACTLY what I'm listetning to
[20:22] <XATRIX> Hi guys, how can i start proprietary driver installation utility from console ?
[20:22] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: WPA, I recall reading something on that, has issues
[20:23] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: ah... well if your in a secluded area WEP isnt too bad :P
[20:23] <DeadWeasel> I guess I could do wep and do MAC filtering?  kantlivelong
[20:23] <gelph> mathias__ put headphones on is the only real answer
[20:23] <GeekSquid> XATRIX: gksudo jockey-gtk
[20:23] <kunji> tomv_: Hmm, in 12.10 you can right click it and there is an option to "Show in folder" but I think there were changes to the dash from 12.04 to 12.10, so I guess I'm not sure
[20:23] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: i wouldnt recommend that.. anyone that hacks WEP knows mac filtering is a joke :)
[20:24] <DeadWeasel> oh yea, mac spoofing
[20:24] <DeadWeasel> balls
[20:24] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: just grab another wifi card
[20:24] <DeadWeasel> but i don't think WPA is supported in general
[20:24] <tomv_> kunji: cool.  does not work in 12.04 -- I was surprised to see no options when I right click.
[20:24] <DeadWeasel> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/hardware-supported.html
[20:24] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel:.. i use WPA2 daily on various card w/o issues
[20:24] <bekks> DeadWeasel: Correct. WPA is deprecated too. USe WPA2 at least.
[20:24] <tomv_> kunji: glad they fixed that in 12.10.
[20:24] <kantlivelong> dunno if its just WPA
[20:24] <kunji> mathias__: using speakers right?  I would recommend using headphones for that.
[20:25] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: Support for encrypted wireless during installation is currently limited to WEP.
[20:25] <DeadWeasel> WEP only supported  :(   lame
[20:25] <kantlivelong> during install.. oh heh
[20:25] <gelph> WEP can be broken in 56 seconds
[20:25] <joshu> Is there a way to make an ubuntu install into a "firmware"? in other words it would be updated remotely and some mechanism in place in case the update goes wrong
[20:25] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: pretty sure ive used WPA2 on install
[20:26] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: there are a couple of unsecure networks I can see, so I won't be low hanging fruit.
[20:26] <yeik> DeadWeasel, kantlivelong, another option is a second ssid that is free, but give it limited access or one of those payment features with ads. nobody needs to hack wep if you have free wifi.
[20:26] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: I'm using it right now.  but it's the only thing I can point to for my packet loss...
[20:26] <bekks> joshu: Which has nothing to do with a "firmware" - and you could just restore a backup when something goes wrong.
[20:26] <Taylr0x> How do you stop xchat from joining that debian channel upon startup?
[20:26] <kantlivelong> yeik: people arent always hackng wifi for free wifi :P
[20:26] <bekks> Remove that channel from your favorites.
[20:27] <DeadWeasel> yeik: maybe, i'll think about that.
[20:27] <Taylr0x> Brilliant, thank you bekks
[20:27] <joshu> bekks: but if the ubuntu desktop install is in a remote location it is not as simple as that
[20:27] <bekks> joshu: As long as SSH is still reachable, it is that easy.
[20:27] <GeekSquid> kantlivelong: more like free credit card numbers, but I wouldn't know anything about that
[20:27] <yeik> kantlivelong, no, it is a big portion. and if you are worried about access to your computers, segragated networks and vpn/ssh tunnels
[20:27] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: MTR has sent 500 packets, 16 IPs for google.com, AVG is 5% loss
[20:27] <tomv_> kunji: I figured it out, just go back t to basic nautilis for 12.04, kinda lame.  Windows 7 is better.  Glad they fixed it in 12.10
[20:28] <kunji> tomv_: Yeah, nautilus is pretty nice in my opinion though.
[20:28] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: any loss when hitting your router?
[20:29] <Taylr0x> bekks, do you know where you find your favourite lists? I cant seem to find it.
[20:29] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: great q, checking now.  not yet.
[20:29] <tomv_> kunji: Much slower, does not seem to have access to the same index that dashboard uses to quickly find the file.
[20:29] <joshu> bekks ok perhaps i'll give some more detail explaining what i'm looking to do. i'm thinking of creating an ubuntu os thin client which will be read-only e.g. no user information is stored locally. this would be deployed via a livecd which is installed locally on a user's computer.
[20:29] <DeadWeasel> i'll keep an eye on it kantlivelong
[20:29] <pasquale> !ciao
[20:29] <DeadWeasel> uh oh, 12% loss  kantlivelong
[20:29] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: if no loss to your router than its not the wifi
[20:29] <pasquale> !list
[20:29] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: then its da wifi
[20:30] <joshu> management in terms of updating the contents of the local install and any configuration changes would take place remotely from some form of management server
[20:30] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: since other machines are ok, it's the ubuntu non-support for WPA then?
[20:30] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: or the card driver
[20:30] <DeadWeasel> kantlivelong: should I try another RTL driver?  like 8169?
[20:31] <yeik> DeadWeasel, best way to test, is to turn off WPA for a few minutes and try it out
[20:31] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: to buy or one you have?
[20:31] <kantlivelong> DeadWeasel: yeik yeah that works too for a quick test :P
[20:31] <kunji> DeadWeasel:WPA works for me, I would think it's the driver for that particular card
[20:31] <ACubed10> who is ready for the walking dead tonight?
[20:31] <pasquale> !ciao
[20:31] <DeadWeasel> kunji: ,kantlivelong , yeik --  I will try that now.  BRB
[20:31] <DeadWeasel> thanks!
[20:32] <kunji> ACubed10: isn't that for ubuntu-offtopic :P
[20:32] <Taylr0x> ACubed10, does that restart tonight?
[20:32] <Kazzzbar> anyone know how to get flash 11.3 to work in chromium or firefox?
[20:32] <pasquale> !list
[20:32] <joshu> bekks did my explanation make any sense
[20:32] <ACubed10> Taylr0x yes
[20:33] <pasquale> !ciao
[20:34] <pasquale> !mario
[20:34] <pasquale> !list
[20:36] <pasquale> !ciao
[20:36] <rusfus_> hi!!
[20:36] <rusfus_> there 'someone willing to help me with a network problem between two pc? I have basically installed the package "openssh-server" typing "sftp :/ / xxxx@192.168.xxx.xxx" from a window of nautilus opens the connection, asks for my psw 2 or 3 times and then tells me it can not open the connection from the server. how can I fix it? pls help me!
[20:36] <pasquale> !list
[20:37] <DJones> pasquale: This channel is about Ubuntu support, piracy isn't appropriate on the network
[20:37] <redtape-renegade> Just as I was about to buy an Ubuntu TV RL70 .. I got this message ... https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/Attachments%20Email%20Xchat/Ebay%20Importantion%20Alert%20Feb%27%202013png.png
[20:38] <pasquale> !ciao
[20:38] <escott> rusfus_, sftp :/ / xxx what is with all the spaces?
[20:39] <h-tech> anyone using xchat? when i minimize it to tray i cannot get it to open the previous window, it instead open a new instance of xchat
[20:39] <pasquale> !help
[20:39] <GeekSquid> rusfus_:  try from the nautilus file menu 'connect to server'
[20:40] <Kazzzbar> How do i install flash plugin 11.3, adobe says 11.2 is the last version?
[20:40] <imacake> Hii,
[20:40] <Taylr0x> h-tech, how are you minimising it? Clicking the tray icon once to hide and once again to reshow?
[20:40] <imacake> Any IRC channels for help with GNU make?
[20:40] <h-tech> Taylor, no i press x and then it say "you want to minmize to tray" or "exit xchat"
[20:40] <Taylor> Okay
[20:41] <h-tech> Sry meant to send that to  Taylr0x
[20:41] <Taylr0x> h-tech, clicked on minimise to tray and then clicked on the tray icon once and it seems to be opening fine for me with no new session.
[20:42] <OerHeks> Kazzzbar,  current is  11.2 r202 and 11.3 does not exist.
[20:42] <h-tech> Taylr0x, are you using unity?
[20:43] <Kazzzbar> @oerHeks..website im trying to access says i need to install flash 11.3..is there a way around this? im running 11.2
[20:43] <Taylr0x> h-tech, No, sorry. xfce
[20:43] <bekks> Kazzzbar: No.
[20:44] <OerHeks> Kazzzbar, what website?
[20:44] <rusfus_> GeekSquid he procedure that is "terminal ---> nautilus ----> CTRL + L ----> sftp :/ / xxxx@192.168.xxx.xxx
[20:44] <h-tech> Taylr0x, Hm, have to check with someone using Unity then, thanks for your time
[20:44] <Kazzzbar> @bekks, break my heart....@oerheks...www.livemocha.com, learning language site
[20:45] <ozy> i'm trying to boot ubuntu 12.10 with an older nvidia card -- and it keeps freezing on boot whne it tries to load the gui -- and it spamms messages about the nouvue driver timing out -- how do I blacklist novuea and install the proprietary driver from the commandline?
[20:46] <bekks> rusfus_: Why do you have all that whitespaces there?
[20:46] <rusfus_> escott I have to try and if I do it with?
[20:46] <Sendoushi> guys... how can i get inside the cd through the console?
[20:47] <compdoc> Sendoushi, you mean access the files on the cd?
[20:47] <Sendoushi> yes
[20:47] <compdoc> have to mount it
[20:47] <OerHeks> Kazzzbar, i checked for you, http://classroom.livemocha.com/sample-classes/ works all great with current 11.2
[20:47] <Sendoushi> i think it is mounted by the parallels
[20:47] <Sendoushi> which is the vm i'm using
[20:47] <alami> any one can tell one why i can't find irssi silc client package
[20:48] <rusfus_> bekks sorry spaces and an error of copy and paste
[20:48] <compdoc> well, if it is mounted, you need to find where
[20:48] <Sendoushi> how can i do that?
[20:48] <rusfus_> escott sorry spaces and an error of copy and paste
[20:48] <Sendoushi> ls and dir don't give me nothing
[20:48] <Sendoushi> it's like... it is empty
[20:48] <compdoc> is the cd named?
[20:48] <Sendoushi> home, root... empty
[20:48] <GeekSquid> rusfus_: seems to work for me connecting to a couple of servers
[20:49] <Sendoushi> from what i know is an iso named prl-tools-lin.iso
[20:49] <Sendoushi> no more info :s
[20:49] <Kazzzbar> OerHeks, i will reinstall flash, maybe something isnt right or disabled. Thanks for your help
[20:50] <rusfus_> GeekSquid In fact, it seems that it works, asks the psw 2 or 3 times and then says that should not be
[20:50] <dniMretsaM> I'm currently learning a little bit of OpenGL with C++, but when I try to compile (using the -lGL flag) I get this: "undefined reference to `_glapi_tls_Dispatch'"  I searched Google and didn't find any solutions, so what should I do
[20:50] <GeekSquid> rusfus_: seems like you have  the wrong password, or
[20:51] <GeekSquid> rusfus_: or idk
[20:51] <rusfus_> GeekSquid idk???
[20:51] <compdoc> Sendoushi, try:     mount|grep ^'/dev'
[20:51] <GeekSquid> rusfus_: txt spk .... idk = I don't know
[20:52] <rusfus_> GeekSquid the psw is correct
[20:52] <Sendoushi> awkward code compdoc
[20:52] <Sendoushi> just done cd dev
[20:52] <Sendoushi> done ls and i see there the cdrom
[20:52] <Sendoushi> but cant get inside
[20:52] <rusfus_> GeekSquid ok!
[20:53] <baegle> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1065400 This bug report states that a fix has been released for 12.10, but I am still suffering from the bug. Anyone know what's up with this bluetooth issue?
[20:53] <gueriLLaPunK> what is the name of the...umm... folder viewer in ubuntu 12.04? i use to type thunar and it would open the gui to view files and folders. well i need to do it with the sudo command, but i dunno what comes with gnome. does that make sense?
[20:53] <baegle> Also, I can't signup for a launchpad account and contribute my comments there, launchpad doesn't seem to be working for signups
[20:53] <gueriLLaPunK> i used thunar when i had 9.10 installed with xde, but im using gnome now
[20:53] <trism> gueriLLaPunK: nautilus for gnome, though use gksudo not sudo
[20:53] <gueriLLaPunK> ty
[20:54] <GeekSquid> rusfus_: and you have verified this by terminal: ssh x.x.x.x -luser -ppassword
[20:54] <gueriLLaPunK> i need to add a repo to yum, but what do i end the extension with? .conf?
[20:54] <pasquale> |link
[20:55] <Sendoushi> compdoc: i dunno how i did it but... it's working now
[20:55] <pasquale> !link
[20:55] <escott> GeekSquid, rusfus_ -p is the port. you CANNOT pass the password on ARGV. and doing so it a terrible ide
[20:55] <escott> a
[20:55] <DJones> pasquale: Stop that, this is not a channel for piracy
[20:55] <compdoc> Sendoushi, you are simply amazing
[20:55] <Sendoushi> lol
[20:55] <Sendoushi> just going around folders and such
[20:55] <Sendoushi> and arrived at a point where i had the dev/cdrom
[20:55] <trueneu> Passing password through ARGV? Who would do that?
[20:55] <Sendoushi> and mnt/cdrom
[20:55] <GeekSquid> gueriLLaPunK:  ubuntu doesn't use yum ... use apt it works
[20:55] <ozy> trueneu: mysql?
[20:55] <Sendoushi> after that... just went inside cdrom from mnt
[20:55] <rusfus_> escott then??
[20:56] <GeekSquid> rusfus_: subtract the -ppassword and it will prompt for password
[20:56] <rusfus_> escottwhat should i do??
[20:56] <trueneu> Hm, yeah, right, ozy.
[20:56] <escott> rusfus_, clearly the password is deemed not to be correct. you can monitor the actual handshake and communication with the remote server by doing "ssh -vvv user@host" but (the more v's the more verbose) but it sure sounds like you dont have the right password
[20:56] <gueriLLaPunK> im trying to install this:
[20:56] <rusfus_> GeekSquid ??
[20:56] <gueriLLaPunK> http://www.webmin.com/deb.html
[20:57] <trueneu> Damn Oracle!
[20:57] <GeekSquid> rusfus_: test ssh .... ssh 192.198.x.x -uuser
[20:57] <escott> rusfus_, just try "ssh -v user@host" and it will prompt you for the password
[20:57] <ozy> trueneu: haha -- that's a legacy stupid decision, though, predating oracle
[20:58] <gueriLLaPunK> i get to the part where i added the repos and when i do apt-get update, i get " Failed to fetch" on the repos i just added
[20:58] <rusfus_> GeekSquid escott I try
[20:58] <GeekSquid> gueriLLaPunK: webmin is depricated in ubuntu, what are you trying to do?
[20:58] <SonikkuAmerica> gueriLLaPunK: Do you require outside (e.g. web) authentication?
[20:58] <trueneu> ozy, I know... Just play along a bit please :)
[20:58] <gueriLLaPunK> oh it is? well i had it installed when i had 9.10. i guess i was using ubuntu server then
[20:59] <onitaL> !virtualbox
[20:59] <gueriLLaPunK> but im on 12.04, so i thought it would be nice to have?
[20:59] <ozy> so, um.. I just installed ubuntu -- what's the 'ubuntu' name for sshd? I'm trying to start it so I can connect from another machine, and neither service ssh start, nor service sshd start works..
[20:59] <gueriLLaPunK> openssh server
[20:59] <unheeding> ozy: you have to install openssh-server
[20:59] <seferis> Hi! I've just installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. So far so good. But I dont know why my second screen has the same Launcher bar as my first screen. Can this be removed?
[21:00] <ozy> seriously, unheeding? this *IS* linux... ought to be installed by default...
[21:00] <kunji>  seferis: yes, it can
[21:00] <ozy> thanks, though
[21:00] <seferis> kunji: can you please explain a little on how to achieve that?
[21:00] <LanaMay> Can someone please explain the diff between :::22, 127.0.0.1:22, and 0.0.0.0:22 is?
[21:01] <DeadWeasel> Ok, I rebooted the modem and router, then I changed the attenae back to the small one on my ALFA wirless card, now when I try to reconnect to my network the "CONNECT" button is red and won't allow me to click it!  kantlivelong kunji
[21:01] <DeadWeasel> I'm on neighbors unsecured
[21:01] <GeekSquid> seferis: unity doesn't look right on 2 screens ... install gnome-desktop-environment and you will have a better desktop... when you log in click session and click gnome classic
[21:01] <kunji> seferis: Click on the gear in the upper right, go to system settings, then to Displays, I believe there should be an option in there for it
[21:01] <escott> LanaMay, 127.0.0.1:22 is port 22 on localhost
[21:01] <SonikkuAmerica> GeekSquid, do you mean gnome-panel?
[21:01] <kunji> seferis: The Launcher placement one
[21:01] <DeadWeasel> Why would the connect button be not clickable?
[21:02] <GeekSquid> SonikkuAmerica: no, I am talking about replacing unity (the default desktop) with gnome (bigger better desktop)
[21:02] <trueneu> LanaMay, second refers to loopback interface, and third refers to all available usually. Not so sure about the first one, looks like some form of IPv6.
[21:02] <bekks> LanaMay: :::22 is IPv6 localhost Port 22, 127.0.0.1:22 is IPv4 localhost port 22, 0.0.0.0:22 is every IPv4 address configured in a system port 22.
[21:02] <escott> LanaMay, ::22 is an ip6 address for something that is all zeros and 22 at the end
[21:02] <SonikkuAmerica> GeekSquid, for what version?
[21:02] <escott> LanaMay, i dont know what :::22 would be
[21:03] <Atum> alooc
[21:03] <seferis> kunji: Aha! That helps a lot! Thank you!
[21:03] <trueneu> Ah, thanks bekks, that's useful about :::22.
[21:03] <GeekSquid> SonikkuAmerica: All versions of ubuntu desktop have the option of gnome
[21:03] <kunji> DeadWeasel: Hmm, I really don't know.  Is this connect button in the dropdown menu for connections?
[21:03] <Tunnelpojken> Hi! Anyone here got any idea of how to remove unity and enable the gnome desktop?
[21:03] <alami> Zero_Chaos: i mean wpa accept only letter and number, and i mean if it's possible to make a dictionary with all possibility of word and letter less or equal to 64
[21:03] <DJones> !nounity | Tunnelpojken
[21:04] <rusfus_> escott GeekSquid practically with "ssh-v sometimes-antisocial@192.168.1.64" in terminal it asks me to insert the psw which then tells me it wrong and gives me access denied
[21:04] <pasquale> !link
[21:04] <SonikkuAmerica> GeekSquid, are you talking the transitional package then?
[21:04] <LanaMay> escott: so if i have apache running on 22 on my local host, I have pv4 and pv6 traffic through it? or are each of these different ports
[21:04] <escott> rusfus_, the password is probably wrong
[21:05] <GeekSquid> Tunnelpojken: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment .... then login and when you login click on session.. 2 options gnome classic(which is gnome2) or gnome3
[21:05] <trueneu> Maybe the password is... wrong?
[21:05] <GeekSquid> SonikkuAmerica: the transitional package installs the dependencies
[21:05] <escott> LanaMay, its the same port, just coming over a different ip version
[21:05] <kunji> LanaMay: I think you do, unless you disabled IPv6
[21:05] <Tunnelpojken> GeekSquad! Thanks! :)
[21:06] <rusfus_> escott how do I solve the problem? I is a doubt: but wants psw PC or router?
[21:06] <SonikkuAmerica> GeekSquid: There's a better way to do it in 12.10, if that's what we're dealing with.
[21:07] <Tunnelpojken> Gonna check when the virtual machine get's on, but I believe I got 12.10 atm
[21:07] <LanaMay> escott: and  kunji: thanks so much!
[21:08] <fronc> the remastrer sys wich programe look like it on windows
[21:08] <pasquale> !ciao
[21:08] <escott> bekks, shouldn't it be ::1:22
[21:08] <pasquale> !link
[21:09] <bekks> escott: Oh, thats correct.
[21:09] <escott> bekks, thats still ambiguous... how does one distinguish the port from the ip
[21:09] <kunji> Hmm, where does gnome-network-manager keep it's settings (accessible via terminal)?  Because it doesn't write them to where you would use if not using the network manager (/etc/network/interfaces).
[21:09] <escott> bekks, ::22 would be 0000:0000:0000:0022 right. ::1:22 could be 0000:0000:0001:0022
[21:10] <rusfus_>  escott psw PC and exact, and the only thing that I have set up access automatically when the pc, but to install or uninstall programs that use the pwd and the usual
[21:10] <gueriLLaPunK> I just want to say thanks to everyone in this room for helping me out the past week. I've learned a lot and I appreciate it.
[21:10] <Gavilan2> Any idea why my mouse would work really strange inside ubuntu?
[21:12] <escott> LanaMay, bekks ports in ip6 need to be outside a [] so it should be [::1]:22
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Gavilan2, what kind of mouse is it>
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[21:13] <thunkee> hi, is it possible that gnome shell activities doesnt minimize the view of the secondary monitor?
[21:14] <rusfus_> escott How do I change the psw?
[21:14] <Sendoushi> how can i list the packages?
[21:14] <escott> rusfus_, passwd
[21:14] <Arvendu> hello guys why python is taking too much ram :S
[21:15] <kunji> Arvendu: How much is it taking?
[21:15] <yeik> Arvendu, python is a language, is it an IDE that is taking up too much ram, or an application written in python you are running?
[21:16] <Arvendu> somtimes 100 MB and somtimes 200-300
[21:16] <escott> LanaMay, also why do you have apache running on your ssh port?
[21:16] <kunji> yeik: I'm guessing he means IDLE, but I'm not sure
[21:16] <LanaMay> escott: i don't I was using that as an example for conceptual understanding
[21:16] <SonikkuAmerica> No, he means IDE
[21:16] <SonikkuAmerica> !ide
[21:17] <escott> LanaMay, ok. well ::22 is not port 22 on localhost. [::1]:22 is
[21:17] <ozy> after installing from the liveCD, grub doesnt have the correct boot arguments -- it dropped the arguments I added when booting the live CD, and it has the wrong root= option -- where/how do I fix that? /etc/grub2.cfg is not here...
[21:17] <kunji> SonikkuAmerica: Yeah, the python IDE, IDLE  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDLE_%28Python%29
[21:17] <yeik> SonikkuAmerica, IDLE is a python IDE
[21:17] <toperharrier> can anyone tell me what does this xchat-indicator plugin do exactly? Im nt getting any kind of alert or new notification icon besides the one that opens a new xchat app
[21:18] <escott> ozy, /etc/default/grub. then update-grub
[21:18] <rusfus_> escott one thing that I was doing back mentr the installation of ssh. I use xubuntu and nautilus was not installed. and normal? I ask because I touched and install it from the terminal
[21:18] <ozy> escott: ty
[21:18] <SonikkuAmerica> kunji, yeik: OK
[21:18] <escott> rusfus_, xubuntu would not include nautilus. that would be normal for xubuntu
[21:19] <SonikkuAmerica> rusfus_: Xubuntu uses Thunar. Studio, however, uses Nautilus.
[21:19] <onitaL> Hi, how do I tell Ubuntu to build the virtualbox guest modules? only thru command line?. I do have dkms installed, but the kernel headers wasn't installed in the last upgrade
[21:19] <bekks> onitaL: Then you have to use the commandline, yes.
[21:19] <ozy> escott: I dont see how to change the root= option....
[21:19] <yeik> Arvendu, what application is this exactly?
[21:19] <Arvendu> yeik ?
[21:19] <escott> ozy, its in your default grub line. root=UUID=
[21:19] <onitaL> bekks, why only the image was upgraded and not the headers?
[21:20] <LanaMay> escott: netstat -lnptu prints out with the same result.... i have sshd running a listener on all available(0.0.0.0:22) and the pv6-like one(:::22)
[21:20] <rusfus_> SonikkuAmerica escott can 'be that's why I do not work and I recognize the psw?
[21:20] <yeik> Arvendu, are you using an application or trying to write in python? or you just opened task manager and see a python at 200 mb ram?
[21:20] <Arvendu> yes just task manager and see python
[21:20] <LanaMay> escott: sry i mean same result in zshell and bash shell, not that it would be diff
[21:20] <bekks> onitaL: Because the headers werent installed - so they couldnt be upgraded.
[21:20] <escott> ozy, looks like you have to disable that first if you dont want to use UUID. #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID then GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[21:21] <ozy> escott: I see how to disable the UUID line,
[21:21] <ozy> ah, ok
[21:21] <yeik> Arvendu, ok. What applications do you use on your computer?
[21:21] <escott> rusfus_, no
[21:21] <onitaL> bekks, they were for the kernel before. However, i just noticed linux-headers-generic isn't
[21:22] <escott> LanaMay, ::::22 just seems wrong. i would not interpret that as a port. i would interpret that as 0:0:0:22. netstat probably needs a patch to get ipv6 printout correct
[21:22] <bekks> onitaL: And that package couldnt be upgraded because it wasnt installed.
[21:22] <toperharrier> theres any way to get upbar notifications on new xchat pms or calls in chat (i mean typing my username)?
[21:22] <rusfus_> escott I give up for now thank you.
[21:22] <rusfus_> Hello and good evening
[21:23] <Arvendu> can anyone tell me how to install hexchat?
[21:23] <SonikkuAmerica> There's no apt-get package for it?
[21:23] <yeik> escott, i don't see anything wrong with that for ipv6 ports. although it is a little odd.
[21:23] <AaronMT> sudo apt-get install hexchat
[21:23] <escott> LanaMay, basically that :::22 is very easy to misparse. :: in an ipv6 means fill out to 128 bit with nibbles of 0000
[21:23] <LanaMay> escott: okay, i have a new window manager, that is prob y it looks different
[21:24] <onitaL> SonikkuAmerica, hexchat or xchat?
[21:24] <unheeding> hexchat!?  are you crazy
[21:24] <unheeding> irssi is the only irc client
[21:24] <LanaMay> oo
[21:24] <AaronMT> wrong
[21:24] <bekks> unheeding: Thats not helpful.
[21:24] <SonikkuAmerica> I was talking Hexchat, but I use (and recommend) Xchat.
[21:24] <Arvendu> Reading package lists... Done
[21:24] <Arvendu> Building dependency tree
[21:24] <Arvendu> Reading state information... Done
[21:24] <Arvendu> E: Unable to locate package hexchat
[21:24] <escott> LanaMay, hopefully people will standardize on [ipv6:addr:ess]:port
[21:25]  * yeik uses irssi at times. its a pain
[21:25] <SonikkuAmerica> !flood | Arvendu
[21:25] <onitaL> ohh, excelent. Thanks for showing me hexchat :3
[21:25] <LanaMay> escott: standards are good, but 128 bit address is nonsense right?
[21:26] <LanaMay> escott: so it would not do anything if it was misparsed?
[21:26] <escott> LanaMay, but :::22 is meant to be the same as [::]:22 and that is the same as [0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000]:22 (if i got enough nibbles)
[21:26] <MoPac> Hello - has anybody here successfully dual-booted with Windows able to read/write to an Ubuntu ext4 filesystem?
[21:26] <unheeding> Arvendu: it's not in te repos, looks like you need to add a PPA.  http://handytutorial.com/install-hexchat-in-ubuntu-13-04-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/
[21:26] <yeik> MoPac, I don't think there are currently any drivers to read/write ext4
[21:26] <onitaL> https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/hexchat-stable
[21:27] <unheeding> Arvendu: I don't know why you'd use hexchat though.  Xchat is free on Linux
[21:27] <escott> LanaMay, ipv6 is 128 bit its ipv4 ^ 4th power
[21:27] <yeik> there are some beta ext3 drivers but it isn't suggested. if you need to have files seen between both filesystems, fat32 is suggested.
[21:27] <DeadWeasel> kunji: The connect button is when I select my wifi network and it asks for the password.  I put it in and the connect button is red and unusable.
[21:27] <onitaL> Interesting than the dictionaries is bigger than the execuatlbe XD
[21:27] <toperharrier> theres any way in ubuntu 12.10 to get pm notifications in the upper bar?
[21:28] <MoPac> yeik: My problem is that I have some giant GIS files, so I really need to use ext4 or NTFS, and for speed reasons I'm trying as much as possible to avoid having to have Linux write to a mounted NTFS rather than a native ext4
[21:28] <Arvendu> k plan change stick with xchat:P
[21:28] <LanaMay> escott: oh, a tcpdump will tel me if it is being mis[parsed right?
[21:28] <unheeding> i run irssi on my server and use screen and ssh to keep connected to IRC even if my laptop is turned off :3
[21:29] <rzec> after I set my timezone with : dpkg-reconfigure tzdata : to UTC it automatically changes back to EST.  Is there some else I need to do to change the timezone and keep it that way?
[21:29] <MoPac> I guess then the next question is: is there any better native way now to resize LUKS system partitions, or do I have to in terminal manually resize the filesystem, the dm-crypt, the volume, etc, etc,?
[21:29] <unheeding> rzec: have you tried changing your time zone?
[21:29] <escott> LanaMay, yeik is probably correct that :::22 will be properly parsed as a ip+port by a standards compliant parser... all i can say is that my brain is certainly not standards compliant
[21:29] <arvendu> yo guys i want to connect my windows server how can i connect that ?
[21:29] <bekks> arvendu: How dod you want to connect?
[21:29] <unheeding> arvendu: ssh probably, I dunno.
[21:30] <datsmoida> it's weird how my VPS server the CPU is hardly used but all my programs require enormous RAM
[21:30] <bekks> arvendu: RDP: use rdesktop on port 3389
[21:30] <onitaL> windows server has ssh?
[21:30] <bekks> onitaL: No, not by default.
[21:30] <rzec> unheeding, yes, with dpkg-reconfigure tzdata but it just changes backwithin 10 - 30 seconds
[21:30] <datsmoida> like right now i have a 'half core' or whatever CPU but i have 4GB RAM
[21:30] <arvendu>  rdesktop ?
[21:30] <datsmoida> and i need more RAM, meanwhile CPU is at like 12-20%
[21:30] <LanaMay> escott: k, thanks again!
[21:30] <bekks> arvendu: Yes.
[21:30] <unheeding> rzec: try going into System Settings -> Time and Date
[21:31] <bekks> !info rdesktop > arvendu
[21:31] <yeik> MoPac, there just isn't very good support for ext4 from windows. you can try it with something like ext2fsd. You can write to NTFS from linux though, so i would say you should go with that for best support and least amount of data corruption
[21:31] <bekks> !info rdesktop
[21:31] <rzec> unheeding: I am working with a server
[21:31] <arvendu> k trying bekks
[21:31] <SonikkuAmerica> !studio | Tunnelpojken
[21:32] <Beast1> hi
[21:32] <arvendu> www.rdesktop.org/ right bekks
[21:32] <MoPac> yeik: Understood. My other thought, though, is to try to give as much space to Ubuntu as I can right now, then give some back to Win/ntfs later if needed.  Wondering if resizing my LUKS partition would be a huge pain, though?
[21:32] <bekks> arvendu: sudo apt-get install rdesktop
[21:32] <escott> MoPac, yes
[21:32] <Tunnelpojken> !command
[21:33] <MoPac> escott: Is it just annoying (i.e., you have to resize filesystem, crypt, volume, etc) or is it also dangerous?
[21:33] <jatak> Howdy. Is this the right channel for help?
[21:33] <ozy> how do I fix visudo to use vi? I set EDITOR to /usr/bin/vim and it still looks like it is broken and using nano
[21:33] <unheeding> jatak: yes
[21:33] <escott> MoPac, dangerous in that if you mess it up its all gone. yes
[21:33] <yeik> MoPac, depending on your partitions, it can be a major pain to resize again. I personally have partitions for several different folders, and swap. vs windows that just has 1 partition (windows 7 now includes a 100 mb partition at the beginning for proprietary things)
[21:33] <jatak> Alright, I've got a bit of an annoying problem.
[21:33] <Beast1> I just opened a file browser with gksudo and sent some root owned files to the trash, only now I see that root does not have a Trash at least I can't find it. So where might these files have gone?
[21:34] <onitaL> heh
[21:34] <jatak> In my Unity launcher there are two app icons for a lot of my applications.
[21:34] <jatak> Like, two copies of the same application launcher.
[21:34] <escott> Beast1, you could check /root/.Trash, but they are probably gone
[21:34] <arvendu> yo rdesktop is already installed now ?
[21:34] <MoPac> escott: yeik: Is the resizing procedure at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4530641 the kind of thing that's very safe if you follow the steps, or risks messing it up even if you type the right things?
[21:34] <jatak> So I'm guessing that there's a separate folder somewhere full of binaries or symlinks for my apps.
[21:35] <jatak> But I don't know how to find it.
[21:35] <jatak> How do I find where an app launcher in Unity is linking to?
[21:35] <bekks> jatak: There is no such folder :)
[21:35] <arvendu> beeks rdesktop installed now ?
[21:35] <Beast1> arvendu: There's no .Trash under root on my system
[21:35] <escott> MoPac, if you are resizing without LUKS you have lots of tools that can help and you can often recover if you mess up by just setting up the tables to a conservative setting. once you add LUKS...
[21:35] <bekks> arvendu: I dont know wether you installed it or not.
[21:36] <jatak> bekks: I meant I might have a directory full of symlinks that I've accidentally created or something.
[21:36] <mgodzilla> i'm havin' problems w/ samba b/n a ubuntu 12.04 client and mac osx 10.8.2 client.
[21:36] <bekks> jatak: No, you dont :)
[21:36] <MoPac> I guess I could just decrpyt in place, resize, and re-encrypt?
[21:36] <mgodzilla> from the mac side - error indicates smb version unsupported.
[21:36] <ozy> how do you change the editor used by visudo? it's not honoring the EDITOR environmental variable
[21:36] <jatak> bekks: Do you know what the problem might be then?
[21:36] <trism> jatak: gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites; that's where they are stored, find the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications
[21:36] <mgodzilla> what's the preferred method these days - sharin' w/ a mac ?
[21:36] <MoPac> Actually, ignore my above, that's probably a bad idea with my SSD (to decrypt in place)
[21:36] <bekks> jatak: I dont see any problem until now - so whats the actual problem you are experiencing?
[21:37] <jatak> trism: Thanks
[21:37] <escott> ozy, you have to change it for root in /root/.bashrc
[21:37] <jatak> bekks: See here for more info on my problem if you want: http://askubuntu.com/questions/253351/why-are-there-multiple-copies-of-the-same-application-in-the-unity-launcher
[21:37] <neldogz> Anyone have experience setting up OpenVPN?
[21:37] <Beast1> escott: not under usr/local/share either
[21:38] <Beast1> escott: : There's no .Trash under root on my system
[21:38] <ozy> escott: I did
[21:38] <yeik> MoPac, shrinking partitions with encrypted data is complex, as well as expanding it. I am not very familiar with the LUKS encryption but that is usually entire partition/drive and I would suggest if you are going to do anything with resizing, backup all your data.
[21:38] <MoPac> Fallback 3: is there a very user-friendly way to back up all of my Ubuntu OS settings, defaults, filemanager packages, etc so as to easily restore back (I'll have crashplan for actual files)?  I don't know how an image would work if there is a different-size new partition
[21:38] <bekks> arvendu: Please do not contact me outside this channel.
[21:38] <escott> Beast1, sudo takes the safeties off. if you shoot yourself in the foot after that...
[21:38] <Beast1> escott: I guess they're gone for good, which iis not a bad thing.
[21:38] <arvendu> how can i make full screen in rdesktop ?
[21:39] <bekks> arvendu: By starting rdesktop with the option to fullscreen.
[21:39] <escott> MoPac, i would not run LUKS on an SSD. thats going to burn the drive out faster
[21:39] <yeik> MoPac, really that guide looks decent, but there can always be unseen issues. if you are able to clone a drive, or create sufficient backups, you can try it if your restores give minimal downtime for you, it isn't a big deal. if it is critical and you can't make good backups. i would suggest against trying it.
[21:39] <escott> MoPac, and performance is going to suffer.
[21:39] <arvendu> kk
[21:39] <Beast1> escott: Agreed. I just wanted to make sure the files were somewhere taking up space needlessly.
[21:39] <Beast1> escott: weren't
[21:40] <MoPac> escott: Not sure what other high-performance full-disk encryption alternative I have, though
[21:40] <yeik> escott, I must hvae missed where he said ssd.
[21:40] <escott> Beast1, if you dont see it in the gksudo nautilus trash portion its presumably gone, but i always sudo rm for that reason
[21:40] <MoPac> I have been institutionally required to use FDE and agree with the rule...
[21:40] <yeik> MoPac, why do you need full-disk encryption?
[21:41] <MoPac> yeik: Short answer is institutional requirement.
[21:41] <rzec> is there something on ubuntu server that automatically updates the timezone, seems like it keps getting reset every minute of the on the 20th second?
[21:41] <escott> MoPac, if the policy is you have to do it then you have to do it
[21:41] <dmku> escot: Why? There is way to turm on TRIM for LUKS, isn't it?
[21:41] <MoPac> Slightly longer answer is: potentially very sensitive data
[21:41] <Beast1> escott: will do it line command next time
[21:41] <Richturd> I've got a faulty version of Ubuntu
[21:41] <escott> dmku, that would seem a bad idea. if you allow the fact that some block is blank to flow down through encryption layer that leaks information
[21:41] <yeik> MoPac, in linux though, the sensitive files are all in profiles. so unless you are worried about people seeing what programs are installed on the computer, shouldn't be an issue.
[21:42] <Richturd> anyone know how to fix my ubuntu
[21:42] <questo> Hi
[21:42] <bekks> Richturd: Which "faults" do you experience?
[21:42] <escott> dmku, imagine if you wanted to have a deniable hidden encrypted partititon that was unlocked with a different key. well you can't use trim on that disk anymore
[21:42] <questo> Microhphone trouble, all sound in the background get's picked up by the microphone
[21:42] <MoPac> yeik: Yeah, but needing a new SSD is a couple years is actually a lot less frustrating than trying to justify to a bureaucracy that breaking this FDE culture isn't a problem
[21:42] <escott> dmku, because i can tell that you are refusing to trim some blocks which amount to X-gigs
[21:43] <yeik> MoPac, I understand the requirement. I work with HIPPA. SSD drives are very horrible with read/write cycles as well. I have seen them die within a couple months.
[21:43] <MoPac> I've actually been using TrueCrypt with Win7 on this SSD, with it nearly full, for a couple of years with really great results
[21:43] <yeik> MoPac, years would be lucky on a ssd. especially with big files. I am gathering that you are installing linux and windows on this ssd?
[21:43] <Richturd> CAN I GET SOME HELP ABOUT MY UBUNTU
[21:44] <dmku> escott, i have to read more about. Thanks.
[21:44] <escott> !details | Richturd
[21:44] <questo> am I the only one who experienced a performance dipp from 12.04 to 12.10?
[21:44] <yeik> MoPac, you must be lucky. i bought a ssd in November, no encryption. died last month.
[21:44] <trueneu> We use SSDs as hosts for some heavy loaded databases. No faults, half a year. Maybe we'll experience some in future though.
[21:44] <amiu> Richturd,  !ask
[21:44] <amiu> bah
[21:44] <questo> !ask microphone trouble
[21:44] <MoPac> yeik: Indeed. I accept that I might need to replace the drive on short notice: that's okay. What's more important to me is not losing tons of time re-configuring everything when I do have to replace it, or resize the partitions, or whatnot
[21:45] <MoPac> yeik: My files are securely and redundantly backed up -- the annoying would come with needing to reconfigure all my OS settings and everything
[21:45] <yeik> MoPac, so it is going to be backed up then. you are just worried about configurations and partitions?
[21:45] <escott> MoPac, the problem is that encryption is by necessity in opposition to quickly resizing the disk
[21:45] <questo> I have a problem with my microphone, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS atm. The problem I'm having is that my microphone picks up all the background sound from the computer
[21:45] <escott> MoPac, so you better guess correctly about how much you need for linux/windows because its going to be painful if you have to change it later
[21:46] <MoPac> yeik: Right, so if I accept that I might need to wipe my Linux partitions and/or replace the whole disk, and I've got all my actual files backed up perfectly well, then is there an easy tool to back up my OS configuration?
[21:46] <yeik> MoPac, so if you want to have something to easily give to someone. the best option would be to keep something preconfigured without it encrypted. when its changed, change partitions, then encrypt and copy data.
[21:46] <Sendoushi> guys... how can i change display resolution? talking about ubuntu server
[21:46] <questo> For example, if i'm in a skype/teamspeak call and watching a youtube clip at the same time, my microphone then picks upp all the sound from youtube
[21:46] <questo> or whatever media is playing
[21:46] <escott> MoPac, alternately go conservative initially and leave some of the disk unused (this is better for the SSD anyways) you can add an additional encrypted volume to whatever OS needs it later
[21:46] <questo> and sends it to the microphone
[21:47] <Richturd> I am not able to use my mouse pad at all or my keyboards keys are glitchy
[21:47] <questo> Almost like an echo
[21:47] <yeik> MoPac, linux doesn't really need much backup. if you keep a list of software, all the settings per user are stored in the user folder. back that up and restore it and nobody will know any difference.
[21:47] <Richturd> I think Ill need a new version of Ubuntu or something
[21:47] <DeadWeasel> kunji: kantlivelong, Looks like RTL8187L driver is preferable over RTL8187.  You can get it off the Realtek site.
[21:47] <DeadWeasel> down to 2% packet loss
[21:47] <DeadWeasel> can connect to my wifi
[21:47] <questo> Can anyone shed some light on my microphone problem please?
[21:47] <escott> !clone | MoPac
[21:47] <jatak> trism:  Hey, that command you gave me just displays the apps pinned to the Unity sidebar
[21:48] <escott> !info etc-keeper | MoPac
[21:48] <escott> !info etckeeper | MoPac
[21:48] <MoPac> yeik: escott: So there's no equivalent of, say, a Windows system restore point.  But if I tell Crashplan to back up all my OS folders in addition to my user files (with Win you just ignore the OS files), I can easily restore the OS back?
[21:48] <jatak> trism:  I meant there are multiple applications launchers in the Unity launcher thing
[21:48] <escott> MoPac, snapshots in btrfs
[21:48] <jatak> trism:  The "start menu"
[21:48] <kunji> DeadWeasel: Hmm, 2% still isn't good, but at least it's working, and it's much better than what it was.
[21:48] <Richturd> !ask
[21:48] <kunji> DeadWeasel:Thanks for letting us know what happened with that
[21:48] <DeadWeasel> it's holding around 3.3.  kunji
[21:48] <jatak> trism:  The dash is what I meant
[21:49] <DeadWeasel> I'll keep on it.  It was the ALFA awus036h USB wifi card
[21:49] <Richturd> I AM UNABLE TO USE ALL THE KEYS ON MY KEYBOARDS OR MY MOUSE VERY WELL
[21:49] <questo> My microphone picks up all the sound on my computer and sends it through the microphone,
[21:49] <Richturd> SINCE I GOT UBUNTU
[21:49] <escott> MoPac, putting /home on a different partition. the think about open-source is that since the software is free reinstalling isnt such a big deal (you dont have to hunt for disks and license keys)
[21:49] <jatak> Richturd:  How about you turn off caps lock before asking for help.
[21:50] <yeik> MoPac, best thing to do is test it. as long as it does file permissions it shouldn't be an issue. not the best route but easy to do.
[21:50] <Richturd> then someone answer jatak
[21:50] <escott> Richturd, PLEASE DONT YELL. also what does that mean cant use them well?
[21:50] <kunji> !details | Richturd
[21:50] <MoPac> escott: It's not so much the package installs that are such a headache, but all the settings tweaks: it can take me a whole afternoon or a day to get Cinnamon the way I want it, for example
[21:50] <escott> MoPac, backup $HOME
[21:50] <DaemonicApathy> What would be the best way to fix issues resulting from the deletion of /tmp and /var/tmp ?
[21:50] <jatak> Richturd:  If nobody answers, then either you didn't ask the question properly, or nobody here knows the answer
[21:50] <yeik> MoPac, those are stored in the user folder or /home
[21:50] <Richturd> I am unable to use my left clicker or my mouse pad clicker and I cant use all the keys on my keyboards
[21:50] <Richturd> *keyboard
[21:50] <escott> DaemonicApathy, recreate /tmp and /var/tmp and reboot
[21:51] <questo> I have a perculiar microphone issue. My microphone doesn't only send my voice, but all the sound on my computer. all media playing gets sent through the microphone. So i can never skype conversate with anyone because of all the background sound emitting from my end
[21:51] <amiu> sounds like they are broken
[21:51] <amiu> @ Richturd
[21:51] <DaemonicApathy> escott: That seems to cause a login loop.
[21:51] <yeik> SonikkuAmerica, just like that huh? interesting.
[21:51] <escott> DaemonicApathy, do you have the sticky bit set on those directories?
[21:51] <questo> It's almost like my microphone is set to "What you hear" all the time
[21:51] <jatak> Richturd:  You might have to install a driver for your touchpad. As for your keyboard, I wouldn't have a clue.
[21:51] <MoPac> escott: yeik: Ah okay, sorry for the noob-ness. As a Win user, I'm used to knowing what's stored in Program Files, what's in C:/Windows, and what's in the user AppData folder, and I really don't know when it comes to Ubuntu things
[21:51] <DaemonicApathy> escott: No idea.
[21:51] <escott> DaemonicApathy, should be 777+sticky
[21:52] <Richturd> do I need a new version of UBUNTU, because ever since I installed this version of ubuntu it's happened
[21:52] <jatak> Richturd:  What version are you using?
[21:52] <escott> !fhs | MoPac
[21:52] <quandtum> Richturd: why don't you share your version of Ubuntu so folks can help.  Can't tell if you need a new version if we don't know your current version.
[21:52] <amiu> you need to stop bashing your keyboard and mouse
[21:52] <jatak> Yes, that would helpt too
[21:52] <Richturd> HOw do I find out what version it is?
[21:52] <Richturd> quandtum
[21:52] <jatak> Are you using Unity?
[21:53] <DaemonicApathy> Quantum Quetzal is 12.10
[21:53] <kunji> Richturd: Hmm, maybe you installed from a corrupted disc/usb, did you make sure to do a checksum before installing?
[21:53] <questo> Is there anyone online that can try to shed some light on my microphone issue?
[21:53] <MoPac> I've read the system tree overview, but I still found myself not intuitively knowing, e.g., if I tell a Cinnamon applet extension not to pop up a dialog window when I do X, where in the filesystem is that?  I know it's something I'll just have to feel out over time.  In the meantime, I'm hoping to be able to do a pretty comprehensive backup
[21:53] <DaemonicApathy> escott: Can I actually put "777+sticky" into chmod?
[21:53] <jatak> Richturd:  Just click the little "gear" icon in the upper right corner of the screen, then click "About this computer"
[21:53] <Richturd> I didnt do the install kunji
[21:53] <escott> DaemonicApathy, no
[21:53] <jatak> jatak:  By that I mean the shutdown menu icon
[21:53] <escott> DaemonicApathy, you would have to lookup how to set the sticky bit
[21:54] <DaemonicApathy> escott: Ok, thought I was going crazy for a moment. I can handle that, thanks.
[21:54] <escott> DaemonicApathy, o+s maybe... not sure
[21:54] <Richturd> jatak there is no gear icon in the upper right hand
[21:54] <Richturd> theres only the power icon
[21:54] <questo> Hello, I have a problem with my microphone, my issue is that it keeps picking up background sound and sends it through the microphone when I talk. can someone help me?
[21:54] <kunji> questo: Hmm, could you give some more details
[21:54] <jatak> Richturd:  Yeah that's what I meant
[21:54] <quandtum> Richturd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckingYourUbuntuVersion
[21:55] <questo> kunji, my microphone picks up all the background sound on my computer
[21:55] <jatak> Richturd:  I forgot I have a different icon theme, sorry
[21:55] <escott> MoPac, easier way. you run as MoPac. you can only modify files in /home/MoPac and /tmp. /tmp is deleted on reboot so its definitely not there. therefore it must be in /home/MoPac
[21:55] <kunji> questo: Isn't that normally how a microphone works?
[21:55] <arvendu> how can i open /home/user/.mozilla ?
[21:55] <questo> kunji, it's only supposed to send my voice, not youtube sounds for instance
[21:55] <questo> kunji, it doesn't "isolate" my voice
[21:55] <escott> arvendu, open nautilus. ctrl-L "/home/user/.mozilla"
[21:55] <MoPac> escott: That's a very helpful rule of thumb; thanks
[21:55] <yeik> questo, are you using headphones?
[21:56] <Taylr0x> Is it just 'sudo apt-get update' I need to type to update my system or is there another command to go along with it?
[21:56] <questo> yeik, I am using a headset
[21:56] <DaemonicApathy> Taylr0x: after that, sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:56] <questo> yeik, it's almost like my microhone is set to "What you hear" all the time, if you know what I'm saying
[21:56] <escott> Taylor, update just updates the list of software that could be installed. upgrade installs the safe stuff. dist-upgrade the potentially dangerous stuff
[21:56] <kunji> questo: Oh, should have said so, so you're saying the sound routing inside your machine isn't right, I don't think that has to do with your mic at all
[21:56] <questo> kunji, I guess so
[21:57] <Taylr0x> Thanks DaemonicApathy & escott.
[21:57] <yeik> questo, if the microphone can hear the things coming from the speakers, it will send it on. it doesn't discriminate on sounds it picks up.
[21:57] <questo> kunji, I have no clue what to do about it tough
[21:57] <yeik> other than that, kunji is right. and that gets a little more complicated but should be easy to fix.
[21:57] <questo> yeik, I am not using speakers, I am using headphones/headset
[21:58] <yeik> yeah, but if you have the music loud enough, it still can be picked up. not very common but it does happen.
[21:58] <questo> yeik, kunji any suggestions?
[21:58] <kunji> questo: First thing I would check is the sound settings through the normal settings menu in Ubuntu.  After that I would probably go on the command line and see what can be changed by using alsamixer
[21:58] <Sendoushi> how can i create a file with console?
[21:59] <escott> Sendoushi, touch filename
[21:59] <Sendoushi> touch?
[21:59] <DaemonicApathy> questo, in the sound settings, what is your input device?
[21:59] <jatak> Sendoushi:  That's the command
[21:59] <jatak> touch filename
[21:59] <NaN123> using a text editor
[21:59] <Sendoushi> thanks
[21:59] <Sendoushi> it worked :)
[21:59] <questo> DaemonicApathy, On the input tab it says Microphone, which is weird
[21:59] <yeik> Sendoushi, what are you trying to do?
[21:59] <DaemonicApathy> Switch to headphones, then back to microphone. Test, and let us know.
[21:59] <Sendoushi> yeik: http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/tutorial/install-mongodb-on-ubuntu/
[22:00] <questo> DaemonicApathy, wait, just a sec
[22:00] <DeadWeasel> when looking at LSMOD, what does USED BY number signify?
[22:00] <kunji> questo:I think having mic there is normal, the trouble is that something else is being output to the mic I think
[22:00] <yeik>  Sendoushi why do you need to create a file from the console with that tutorial?
[22:00] <onitaL> !facebook
[22:00] <ShukkoO> Hello, is there annyone that can please give me a link to a howto where i can replace my macOS to ubuntu. The last one i tryed gave me an bad OS :(
[22:01] <onitaL> !apropos account
[22:01] <questo> kunji, yes
[22:01] <Sendoushi> yeik: "create a /etc..."
[22:01] <bekks> DeadWeasel: The number of other modules using this specific module.
[22:01] <Sendoushi> to config the 10gen i guess
[22:01] <questo> DaemonicApathy, doesn't help
[22:01] <DeadWeasel> bekks: thanks, so if it's listed at all, at least one module is using it?
[22:01] <yeik> Sendoushi, ahh. that line, it wants you to edit the file, nano, vi, ed, are all good programs to edit a file
[22:01] <Sendoushi> yep i've used nano
[22:01] <DaemonicApathy> questo, ok then, alsamixer in the command line was a good suggestion
[22:01] <bekks> DeadWeasel: No. If it is listed at all, it is loaded at least.
[22:01] <jatak> Or gedit
[22:01] <Sendoushi> i'm understanding more of the linux console now :)
[22:01] <yeik> ok.
[22:02] <Sendoushi> i installed vim but... for what i want... i just removed
[22:02] <DeadWeasel> bekks: ok
[22:02] <yeik> nano can create files too, so you don't have to use touch first.
[22:02] <Sendoushi> ah... ok then
[22:02] <Taylr0x> How do you do a search for software via the terminal?
[22:02] <Sendoushi> it's good to know also so...
[22:02] <Sendoushi> now... how can i do a nfs folder so i can access on the host OS ?
[22:02] <yeik> Taylr0x, what do you mean, are you looking for where? or software to install?
[22:03] <kunji> DaemonicApathy: Do you know the sound system in Ubuntu well?  Because after alsamixer I'm kind of stumped for general troubleshooting... the linux sound system could use some simplification.
[22:03] <Taylr0x> yeik,  I'm trying to find Open Office to install. But can't seem to find it on the software centre?
[22:03] <yeik> Sendoushi, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-export-directory-with-nfs4/ for linux export nfs
[22:03] <g16> Taylor: apt-get install libreoffice
[22:03] <Sendoushi> thanks mate :)
[22:03] <g16> OpenOffice.org is defunct.
[22:04] <g16> .. or slowly dying
[22:04] <DaemonicApathy> kunji: I used to, but for now I'm kind of limited. :-)
[22:04] <jatak> Does anyone know how to find where an application shortcut in the Unity Dash is pointing to?
[22:04] <questo> DaemonicApathy, I think I've solved it
[22:04] <mugsy__> pulseaudio volume control app can be helpful
[22:04] <DaemonicApathy> g16: might want to s/libreoffice/libreoffice*
[22:04]  * yeik agrees that the linux sound system has its issues. you have several different ways of doing things and sometimes it just doesn't work right.
[22:04] <gueriLLaPunK> anyone familar with x2go? I want my programs to be running even if I log out of it. how do i do that?
[22:04] <mugsy__> it's more verbose and lets you see all the inputs etc
[22:05] <questo> DaemonicApathy, lowered some stuff and now it doesn't pick up
[22:05] <jatak> I have multiple copies of the same application in the Unity Dash, so I think that there's multiple shortcuts in different locations
[22:05] <bekks> jatak: There arent multiple shortcuts. All you can see is the same thing twice.
[22:06] <jatak> bekks:  Yes, but why would it show the same thing twice?
[22:06] <kunji> questo:Oh hmm, interesting, might even have been crosstalk on some wires because of the volume rather than an actual source/sink issue.
[22:06] <ShukkoO> Hello, is there annyone that can please give me a link to a howto where i can replace my macOS to ubuntu. The last one i tryed gave me an bad OS :(.
[22:06] <bekks> jatak: Thats a question I cant answer, because I never experienced that particular problem.
[22:06] <g16> DaemonicApathy: thank you
[22:06] <mugsy__> questo: have you tried looking at the levels in pavucontrol?
[22:07] <bekks> jatak: But basically, there is no such folder where the content of the starter is stored.
[22:07] <jatak> bekks:  Oh, an I uninstalled LibreOffice earlier, but there are still those extra shortcuts in the dash
[22:07] <Taylr0x> g16, DaemonicApathy, what is the difference between the two commands you both typed?
[22:07] <kunji> questo: This might be helpful if you have any other sound issue later: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[22:07] <questo> mugsy__, will do that now
[22:07] <questo> kunji, thanks alot
[22:08] <jatak> bekks:  I know there *shouldn't* be a folder like that, but what I'm saying is maybe a I (or some program) created a directory full of symlinks
[22:08] <DaemonicApathy> Taylr0x: apt-get install libreoffice* will install all the components. No *, probably no luck without specifying which component.
[22:08] <KxTwo> hey guys are there any console emulators for linux?  So far all my em's are for windows
[22:08] <g16> Without *, it brings a functional LO on my system.
[22:08] <bekks> jatak: Which did not happen, as I told you three times now. :)
[22:08] <g16> Never tried the *-version
[22:08] <kunji> KxTwo: There are indeed
[22:08] <bekks> KxTwo: Whats an "em"?
[22:09] <kunji> bekks: Short for emulator I guess
[22:09] <jatak> bekks:  You don't know that, and repeating it three times doesn't make it any more true
[22:09] <Taylr0x> So am I typing apt-get install s/libreoffice/libreoffice* ?
[22:09] <KxTwo> kunji, what consoles???
[22:09] <bekks> jatak: Well, then prove me wrong, once you found out "the truth".
[22:09] <Richturd> when was the new version of ubuntu released? and where can I obtain it?
[22:10] <DaemonicApathy> shukkoo: http://tech-devnet.blogspot.de/2012/05/running-ubuntu-1204-on-mac.html
[22:10] <mandoguit> ubuntu.com   of course
[22:10] <kunji> KxTwo: PS for sure, I think the PS2 one was, but I think development on it stopped because there wasn't enough interest or something, it's been a long time since I looked at it.
[22:10] <OerHeks> KxTwo,  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Emulators
[22:10] <bekks> !raring > Richturd
[22:10] <ShukkoO> TY DaemonicApathy <3
[22:10] <kunji> OerHeks: Ah, nice
[22:10] <Richturd> when was it released???
[22:11] <OerHeks> ps is not on it, and wii ..
[22:11] <bekks> Richturd: It WILL be released in April 2013.
[22:11] <Richturd> bekks: you smart aleck son of a bitch
[22:11] <KxTwo> I'd love a ps2 emulator but I hear they are buggy and need a ton of power
[22:11] <bekks> Richturd: Watch your language.
[22:12] <Richturd> bekks: how old is the version before this new one?
[22:12] <kunji> OerHeks:Right, there used to be a PS one in the repos, it's been gone for ages though, I'm sure a ppa or something can be found though
[22:12] <bekks> Richturd: The current version was released in October 2012.
[22:12]  * mandoguit smells a troll
[22:12] <KxTwo> damn, all the ems on that link only go as high as snes and thats inactive
[22:12] <OerHeks> kunji, KxTwo  and see this post > http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11381491&postcount=3 old but still valid i think
[22:12] <Richturd> bekks: do you like it?
[22:13] <bekks> Richturd: Thats not part of ubuntu support. :)
[22:13] <KxTwo> nice link OerHeks, how did you find that so quickly!
[22:13] <Richturd> bekks: I ask cuz mine wont let me use all my keys or all the capabilities of my mouse and it's a mini laptop
[22:14] <Richturd> an Asus Eee PC
[22:14] <bekks> !details | Richturd
[22:14] <kunji> OerHeks: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was a different one I used for PS: this one I think: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95835
[22:14] <Taylr0x> Richturd, what version are you running at the moment?
[22:14] <OerHeks> KxTwo, some games can run slow, but it all depends on amount ram available and your CPU/driver
[22:14] <Richturd> Taylr0x: i dont know, i didnt install it
[22:14] <Sendoushi> how do you do a { on server? is it with altgr?
[22:15] <Taylr0x> Richturd, have a nose through your menu and you should be able to find something that will give you the information on the current install. usually reads 'about' etc
[22:15] <KxTwo> OerHeks, I should be fine for older systems up until at least n64.  Not sure if my laptop can handle anything higher than that.  I am running 4 gigs of ram with a turion dual core
[22:15] <Richturd> I'm running 2.6.38 with Linux, Taylr0x
[22:16] <jatak> Richturd:  ...I don't think you are
[22:16] <Taylr0x> Richturd, as an alternative, download the current 12.10 release and boot from a CD or USB stick (Live CD) and see if it works in the new version. If so, reinstall.
[22:16] <Richturd> Thats what it says at the boot up screen jatak
[22:16] <kunji> KxTwo: http://www.epsxe.com/download.php not sure what you need to do to run it, but it's available in executable form, will probably run out of the box.
[22:16] <jatak> Richturd:  That would be the kernel version, you don't need to worry about it
[22:16] <bekks> 2.6.38 is a horrible old kernel :)
[22:17] <Richturd> jatak I dont know what that means im a linux/ubuntu uber noob
[22:17] <bekks> Richturd: So which Ubuntu version do you run currently?
[22:17] <kunji> KxTwo:Well, with the bios of course, which we won't be talking about here
[22:17] <jatak> Richturd:  Like I said before, click the power icon in the upper-right hand corner, then click "About this computer"
[22:17] <KxTwo> ??
[22:17] <Richturd> bekks that one
[22:17] <Richturd> 2.6.38
[22:17] <bekks> Richturd: Thats not an UBUNTU version, but a KERNEL version.
[22:17] <onitaL> c:
[22:18] <bekks> Richturd: Whats the output of "lsb_release -sd" in a terminal?
[22:18] <kunji> bekks: Sounds like 12.04 though right?
[22:18] <bekks> kunji: Sound more like 10.04 :)
[22:18] <Richturd> thats great bekks so what do I do if I want my asus eeepc 701 to run smoother
[22:18] <KxTwo> oh nice
[22:18] <DaemonicApathy> Alright, I'm back in business. Thanks for the permissions help, I haven't dealt with tmp folders much.
[22:18] <KxTwo> I can get pcsx right from software center
[22:18] <bekks> Richturd: First, you have to answer my question.
[22:18] <kunji> bekks: Oh, hmm
[22:18] <KxTwo> really wish they listed hw requirements
[22:19] <Richturd> bekks how do i get to the terminal from my desktop?
[22:19] <kunji> bekks: Ah, 11.04  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases
[22:19] <bekks> Richturd: By clicking the menu item which is named "Terminal".
[22:19] <Taylr0x> Is there a standard Firewall that everyone runs nowdays or do people still rely on just common sense and the solid restrictions of the OS itself?
[22:19] <DeadWeasel> how to tell which WIFI driver i am ACTUALLY using?
[22:20] <bekks> 11.04? Thats not supported anymore.
[22:20] <kunji> DeadWeasel: I believe with modprobe, but I'm not sure how exactly
[22:20] <gueriLLaPunK> so if i want to run a program at start up (eg. a program in WINE) do i make a cron job or something?
[22:20] <DeadWeasel> kunji: thanks, i'm looking it up
[22:21] <onitaL> kunji, DeadWeasel not modprobe, but lsmod
[22:21] <Richturd> bekks I think I should just reboot and maybe that'll take me to the terminal because there is no terminal in the menu
[22:21] <onitaL> DeadWeasel, try wpa_cli status
[22:21] <kunji> onitaL: Ah, thanks, my bad
[22:22] <bekks> Richturd: Which will not take you to a terminal. And your Ubuntu version isnt supported anymore, if it is 11.04 - and there IS a menu entry named "Terminal".
[22:22] <mandoguit> DeadWeasel:   install the following    cuts down on a lot of messing around when figuring out what is installed etc  imho   http://code.google.com/p/inxi/
[22:22] <Richturd> its not 11.04 it's 2.6.38!!!!
[22:22] <Zeduke> does anyone have steam working on 12.10?
[22:22] <Richturd> i hate this damn thing
[22:23] <bekks> Richturd: No. The KERNEL version is 2.6.38, which is NOT the UBUNTU version. You already have been told that.
[22:23] <|nv|s|b|e> Richturd>  go to menu / admin / system monitor
[22:23] <kunji> Richturd: 11.04 would be the Ubuntu release corresponding to that kernel.  Released in the 4th month of 2011, see the Table of versions here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases
[22:24] <Richturd> ok kunji
[22:24] <ErtanERBEK> anyone know how can I hide windows content at drag or move time
[22:24] <Senjai> Richturd: I usggest you pick up a systems administrators guide
[22:25] <kunji> Zeduke: Someone does, not me though, I figured I would wait until Summer... because I have school right now, and also I think the process will have made itself somewhat easier by then :P
[22:26] <dr_willis_> ErtanERBEK:  that would be a feature of the window manager. im not sure if unity/compiz has settings for that in the CCSM tool or not.. ive not looked  at those for ages
[22:26] <rusfus> excuse me, then I go to bed I have the jewelry that I smoke.
[22:26] <rusfus> after a night of intense issues in part xubuntu, and since basically my 2 pc also would support ubuntu, suse or gnome, since I know the new community 'and still do not know how to use linux well, according to you what is best or ubuntu debian? I decided that tomorrow I install a new operating system!
[22:26] <FloodBot1> rusfus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:26] <MikeH> Anyone use native ZFS?
[22:26] <MikeH> I've imported a pool successfully, but I've no idea where the device is to map it?
[22:26] <MikeH> ]
[22:26] <Zeduke> i cant wait but 12.10 is really awesome i just wish i could use skype/steam
[22:26] <bekks> MikeH: Yes, on Solaris.
[22:27] <JuJuBee> My login process has crashed or frozen on my other computer.  I can login to terminal.  How can I force the restart of the gui?
[22:27] <arvendu> what is poor color depth for rdesktop ?
[22:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Is it possible to install Ubuntu GNOME 12.10 using the method described here?: http://ubuntu-with-wubi.blogspot.com/2012/10/tricking-wubi-installing-xubuntu.html (Not that it's recommended)
[22:27] <ErtanERBEK> dr_willis_, I am using gnome-shell with Ubuntu
[22:27] <arvendu> my rdesktop is bit slow becz of color depth :(
[22:27] <bekks> arvendu: 8bit.
[22:27] <|nv|s|b|e> gnome-session-quit
[22:27] <Senjai> JuJuBee: you can just sudo reboot. i dont know about gnome/unity
[22:27] <kunji> rusfus: madlibs?  Take that to ubuntu-offtopic :P
[22:27] <Senjai> JuJuBee: I just use Kubuntu
[22:27] <arvendu> rdesktop -a 8 server ?
[22:27] <onitaL> init 5 won't do the trick?
[22:27] <JuJuBee> Senjai: I would prefer to not reboot if possible.
[22:27] <ErtanERBEK> compiz have transparent feature for windows moeving but gnome-shell not have
[22:28] <JuJuBee> Senjai: I also use kubuntu
[22:28] <onitaL> init 4 && init 5 ?
[22:28] <dr_willis_> !runlevel
[22:28] <rusfus> kunji ??sorry but they are just noob
[22:28] <gueriLLaPunK> Where do I put this cmd to run a program on boot in wine? "wine /home/user/.wine/drive_c/windows/notepad.exe"
[22:28] <ubuntu-nooby> test
[22:29] <Senjai> JuJuBee: ttry sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[22:29] <Richturd> if i am having problems with Ubuntu recognizing some of the keys on the asus eeepc 701 should I just go into the system preferences and fix it there???
[22:29] <Senjai> JuJuBee: I did it alst time. Not sure what process it is, but it brought me back to the login
[22:29] <ubuntu-nooby> Can someone take a look at this dmesg output.  I think my SSD is dying: http://pastebin.com/WEvF4wsQ
[22:29] <bekks> Richturd: No. You have to upgrade to a supported Ubuntu release before asking for support :)
[22:30] <Senjai> Richturd: we dont support old versions of Ubuntu here.
[22:30] <Richturd> FORGET YOU ALL THEN
[22:30] <Senjai> Richturd: Bye
[22:30] <JuJuBee> Senjai: sudo restart kdm  worked
[22:30] <Senjai> JuJuBee: good to know
[22:31] <Richturd> senjai, you damn zipperhead, just effing help me
[22:31] <Richturd> put the chow mein down and help
[22:31] <Richturd> you damn gook chink from hell
[22:31] <isaias> can i get some help with virtualbox?
[22:31] <Senjai> Richturd: we are volunteers, you are not entitled for help. Sorry to say.
[22:31] <Richturd> you no good lazy slant
[22:31] <Senjai> Richturd: Try google. Or maybe you shouldnt use Linux/GNU if this is your attitude toward it, you won't learn anything
[22:31] <bekks> Richturd: Watch you language please. Your version of Ubuntu isnt supported, so stop insulting people.
[22:31] <bekks> !ops | Richturd
[22:32] <kunji> bekks: Thanks, I should remember ops :P
[22:32] <ubuntu-nooby> Richturd: Don't be that guy.  Slurs are unwelcome here.  I'm green as grass and even I know that.
[22:32] <isaias> im trying to install virtualbox and it says "FATAL: No bootable medium found! System Halted."
[22:32] <Myrtti> alright then, please be excellent to each other
[22:32] <Senjai> isaias: ask in #vbox
[22:32] <isaias> trying to install windows 7 in virtualbox*
[22:32] <isaias> ok, ty!
[22:33] <Senjai> isaias: goodluck.
[22:33] <Richturd> you're as green as the collagreen you eat you damn stupid nigger
[22:33] <gueriLLaPunK> Where do I put this cmd to run a program on boot in wine?    "wine /home/user/.wine/drive_c/windows/notepad.exe"
[22:33] <Senjai> Thank you Myrtti
[22:33] <gswain> can the Ubuntu Builder build server images? or does it have to be GUI?
[22:33] <bekks> Myrtti: thx
[22:34] <kunji> Myrtti: Thanks very much!
[22:35] <rhwalt> join #cw
[22:35] <Senjai> gueriLLaPunK: ask in #winehq
[22:35] <lars__> hi all
[22:35] <lars__> how to install linux 3.5 (quantal) in 12.04 precise?
[22:35] <gueriLLaPunK> Senjai, i thought i had enter that cmd somewhere in ubuntu and not in wine.
[22:35] <ikonia> lars__: you don't
[22:36] <gueriLLaPunK> i just need to run that cmd in ubuntu on startup, Sendoushi
[22:36] <ikonia> lars__: you use the kernel thats supplied by your version
[22:36] <lars__> ikonia, ?
[22:36] <gueriLLaPunK> Senjai,
[22:36] <Senjai> gueriLLaPunK: check your startup and shutdown settings.
[22:36] <gueriLLaPunK> where are those?
[22:36] <Senjai> gueriLLaPunK: are you actually trying to use wine for notepad/
[22:36] <Senjai> gueriLLaPunK: just curious
[22:37] <gueriLLaPunK> no, thats just an example
[22:37] <lars__> ikonia, the problem is linux 3.2 has a problem on my hardware
[22:37] <gueriLLaPunK> i just need to run a wine cmd at startup
[22:37] <lars__> ikonia, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/993187
[22:38] <kunji> lars__: Is it fixed in 3.5?  Maybe upgrade to 12.04
[22:38] <Senjai> gueriLLaPunK: Found this from a simple google search: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1767979
[22:38] <Richturd> Why you kick me out?
[22:38] <Senjai> Richturd: you're belligerant.
[22:38] <Richturd> you're unhelpful and rude
[22:38] <|nv|s|b|e> and name calling was ok ?
[22:38] <mandoguit> more to the point why did they let you back in....just be glad i am not an op...you would never return
[22:38] <Senjai> Myrtti:  :/
[22:38] <Richturd> what did I say so bad?
[22:39] <|nv|s|b|e> if your that ignorant, you need help
[22:39] <ikonia> lars__: sorry, I don't see anything saying a later kenel will fix it, and even if it does, that doesn't change what I said
[22:39] <Myrtti> guise, can you please keep to Ubuntu support
[22:39] <Richturd> YEs I need help with my asus eeepc
[22:39] <Myrtti> Richturd: which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[22:39] <|nv|s|b|e> Richturd!*@* added to ignore list.
[22:39] <Richturd> I am running 2.6.38 ubuntu with linux
[22:39] <Senjai> Richturd: You were told multiple times, you need the latest version of ubuntu before we can help you. 11.04/11.10 is not supported here.
[22:39] <ikonia> |nv|s|b|e: you don't need to announce it
[22:39] <Myrtti> |nv|s|b|e: that's not helpful either
[22:40] <Senjai> Richturd: that is your kernel version.
[22:40] <Myrtti> Richturd: no, which version of Ubuntu?=
[22:40] <serp_> what about 12.04?
[22:40] <kunji> Myrtti: We're trying T.T, he's running an unsupported version, I believe 11.04
[22:40] <serp_> LTS isnt it
[22:40] <Senjai> Myrtti: we determined earlier it was 11.04
[22:40] <bekks> Senjai: 11.10 is still supported, isnt it?
[22:40] <lars__> bekks, a few months
[22:40] <kunji> bekks: No, it's not
[22:40] <Senjai> bekks: not that I know of, 12.04 and 12.10
[22:40] <Richturd> where can I download and how do I do it?
[22:41] <lundy> day 8 of Ubuntu and <3 still going
[22:41] <Senjai> !install | Richturd
[22:41] <bekks> kunji: Senjai: It is supported until April 2013.
[22:41] <Senjai> bekks: noted.
[22:41] <bekks> Senjai: And 10.04 is supported until April 2013 as well.
[22:41] <Senjai> bekks: Orly,
[22:41] <Richturd> can I do it via USB stick?
[22:41] <Taylr0x> Yes.
[22:41] <Senjai> Richturd: Yes
[22:41] <kunji> bekks: That's weird, see the release timeline: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases  Where are you looking that says 11.04 is still supported?
[22:41] <STMelon> topic reads: Currently supported versions 8.04 LTS (server only), 10.04 LTS, 11.10, 12.04 LTS and 12.10
[22:41]  * STMelon sighs
[22:41] <DeadWeasel> For the record, nm-tool is a good way to detemine network drivers.  INXI is not easy to install.
[22:42] <bekks> kunji: I never did say that. I said that 11.10 is still supported.
[22:42] <KxTwo> ok got a ps1 emulator now for a rom!
[22:42] <kunji> bekks: Oh, my bad
[22:42] <DeadWeasel> it is very difficult to get the network card to use a different drive in 12.04?
[22:42] <DeadWeasel> driver*
[22:42] <Senjai> KxTwo: we don't talk about those things here..
[22:42] <KxTwo> sure we do
[22:42] <kunji> bekks: Sorry, don't know why I misread that, my mistake
[22:43] <kunji> KxTwo: About emulators, not about roms, don't get yourself in trouble
[22:43] <bekks> KxTwo: Thats clearly against licensing agreements. And breaking them is not supported in here.
[22:44] <DeadWeasel> are USB wifi cards not good to use or just mine?
[22:44] <KxTwo> There are many roms that are free to use, and roms for purchases games are not against licensing agreements :)
[22:44] <Senjai> KxTwo: Point is, its not about ubuntu
[22:44] <ubuntu-nooby> Can someone take a look at this dmesg output.  I'm not sure if this means my filesystem is damaged or the disk is.  http://pastebin.com/WEvF4wsQ
[22:44] <Senjai> KxTwo: It doesnt belong here
[22:44] <KxTwo> Jeez some people are way too anal
[22:44] <kunji> DeadWeasel: I think you just hit a bad one, mine all work, even ones with no working windows drivers
[22:45] <DeadWeasel> well, I haven't actually been able to chang ethe driver yet.
[22:45] <DeadWeasel> kunji: why is it so hard to change a driver?
[22:45] <DeadWeasel> i have downloaded them, make clean, make install, etc.  rebooted.  still on old driver.
[22:45] <Senjai> DeadWeasel: Ubuntu doesnt support many of the proprietary drivers for hardware.
[22:46] <DeadWeasel> Senjai: they don't support much for wifi.   Can you recommend a good USB wifi card?
[22:46] <DeadWeasel> I'm fed up
[22:46] <kunji> DeadWeasel: Hmm, I don't think it's all that bad, it's something I haven't had to do yet though.  I think it basically consists of installing the new driver and blacklisting the old one to make sure it doesn't load.
[22:46] <Senjai> DeadWeasel: I wish I could, but I always had no issues with my onboard wifi.
[22:46] <gueriLLaPunK> where do i enter this cmd to start a wine program at starup? "wine /home/user/.wine/drive_c/windows/notepad.exe"
[22:46] <KxTwo> I do have a question about a wifi issue.  I installed ubuntu on a friends laptop for a dual boot.  The wireless will connect to not secure networks(albeit slowly) however I cannot get it to connect to networks with security?
[22:46] <DeadWeasel> kunji: so I do need to blacklist the old first?
[22:46] <DeadWeasel> ok
[22:47] <Senjai> DeadWeasel: yes it is possible, to answer your question, you can hook a disk drive up to your sound card and use it. It is definitely possible to route internet through another device
[22:47] <Senjai> KxTwo: what error do you get
[22:47] <KxTwo> No error, it just tries to connect for a while then pops up with the password screen
[22:47] <kunji> DeadWeasel: I can recommend something better than a card, TP-Link has a nano router powered through usb that can be used in an adapter mode to provide wireless through the ethernet connection.
[22:48] <Senjai> KxTwo: restart networking or the computer and try again.
[22:48] <Senjai> KxTwo: either that or its not interacting with DHCP properly and you might have to setup a static IP
[22:48] <KxTwo> Senjai I have tried all the basic stuff, thats why Im here.
[22:48] <DeadWeasel> kunji: that sounds like another pile of problems, have you tried this in 12.04 x64?
[22:48] <KxTwo> senjai its a school network no static ip
[22:49] <Senjai> KxTwo: Uhh yea, school networks use a different infrastructure than your standard WiFi, and you need to be able to identify that infrastructure before you can connect to it.
[22:49] <kunji> DeadWeasel: The router, yes, the connection are both very basic right, it's just using the usb connect for power, so to the computer it looks like it's on a wired network just using ethernet
[22:49] <Senjai> KxTwo: generic home/small business wifi should be no issue
[22:49] <KxTwo> Well it connects to the open network
[22:49] <KxTwo> slowly though, just not the secured one
[22:49] <Senjai> KxTwo: Yes, but it doesnt have to auth to it.
[22:49] <Senjai> KxTwo: Authenticated to a network like that is a whole different story
[22:49] <Senjai> !networking | KxTwo
[22:49] <KxTwo> Im aware of that
[22:49] <DeadWeasel> kunji: so I am connected via ethernet cable, but powering said device via USAB?
[22:50] <kunji> DeadWeasel: I can also connect the router to a switch instead and provide internet to a bunch of wired machines
[22:50] <kunji> DeadWeasel: Yeah
[22:50] <Senjai> KxTwo: Its one of the things ubuntu doesnt do well on its own and you have to tinke rwith.
[22:50] <KxTwo> what is the fix?
[22:50] <DeadWeasel> kunji: basic NANO model?
[22:50] <Senjai> KxTwo: you have to mimic the networks configuration
[22:50] <michal_> how can i instal league of legend on ubuntu?
[22:50] <KxTwo> I've had no problem with any of the other systems I've done this too.
[22:50] <Senjai> KxTwo: meaning you need to know a little about how linux/gnu works.
[22:50] <kunji> DeadWeasel: Or there's a pretty good dongle TP-Link has as well that you can probably find for < 10$ on Amazon
[22:50] <Senjai> KxTwo: No two systems are  identical
[22:50] <DeadWeasel> kunji: gotta go take the lamb roast out and eat it, back, well, sometime...  thank you for all your help!
[22:50] <KxTwo> oi vey
[22:50] <KxTwo> ok thanks
[22:51] <Senjai> michal_: Wine, but its not supported.
[22:51] <kunji> DeadWeasel:No problem, I'll go find that dongle as well so I can give you the model number
[22:51] <Fels> hi all -
[22:51] <michal_> hi
[22:51] <Atum> Hey Fels
[22:52] <Fels> i wanted to install ubuntu as a 2nd choice on my Win 7
[22:52] <Fels> how can I do this
[22:52] <kunji> DeadWeasel: It's a TP-Link TL-WN821N
[22:52] <Atum> You can dual-boot your system
[22:53] <Fels> Atum, even thought I already running hte win 7 for about a year and I rely on it and cannot trash it
[22:53] <Senjai> !install | Fels
[22:53] <Atum> Fels, check http://bit.ly/33jLwN
[22:54] <Atum> Fels, you can install it on a unnused HD space, by partitioning it
[22:55] <Fels> what about "Live" ??
[22:55] <dunleavy> can any one assist with kvm guest bridge problems on ubuntu 12.04 lts?
[22:55] <dunleavy> i've followed the ubuntu wiki on kvm, setup bridged networking via br0 and assigned it to the guests config
[22:55] <Senjai> Atum: please only reccomend the officiall !install reccomendations.
[22:55] <dunleavy> enabled all settings as per the wiki for sysctl.conf and parse the changes
[22:56] <Senjai> Atum: as then we know how to assist if things go awry
[22:56] <dunleavy> but i still cannot see traffic from guest on br0 pinging the host
[22:56] <Atum> !install
[22:56] <dr_willis_> Fels:  a live cd is not an installed system.. so works a little differntly
[22:57] <Fels> dr_willis_, thx - I need to run the mobile dev tools -
[22:57] <dr_willis_> no idea what you mean by mobile dev tools..
[22:58] <Fels> Ubuntu mobile. ?
[22:58] <kunji> DeadWeasel:http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WN821N-Wireless-N-802-11b-Wireless/dp/B002D5EIT4   Hmm, I guess prices went up (I got it around black friday I guess.  Here is the router I mentioned: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=33-704-134  It's just a little bit annoying to set up because you need to assign your comp a static ip on the same subnet to configure it, but after that it just works
[22:58] <oojava> Hi I was wondering if there was a way to make a live cd that could not install on the host computer? I'm going to be giving a live cd to some of my not so tech savy friends to try and want to make sure that destruction of all of their files is not a click away...
[23:00] <meelu> what is easy method adding ipv6 block
[23:00] <Senjai> meelu: gotta be more specific
[23:00] <meelu> my isp provided gateway netmask and ip with /64
[23:00] <escott> oojava, you could make a liveusb with persistent storage and then remove ubiquity or you could just install to a usb directly. otherwise look for a non-distro based livecd
[23:00] <Senjai> oojava: its really simple. As long as they dont select the "Use whole drive" option
[23:01] <Senjai> err nvm
[23:01] <Senjai> dont listen to me
[23:02] <mandoguit> or rewritable dvd/cd
[23:02] <oojava> oh ok I'll lookinto that... so if I install to a usb it wont allow for full install?
[23:02] <dr_willis_> a full install to usb wont allow for installing to the hd.. but they could still access ther windows stuff and delete junk. ;)
[23:03] <escott> oojava, if it doesnt have ubiquity it doesnt have the installer
[23:03] <oojava> thanks dr_willis_
[23:03] <Senjai> dr_willis_: that's my favorite part.
[23:03] <oojava> escott:  how do i remove the ubinquity
[23:03] <Senjai> dr_willis_: I remember when someone was argueing with me saying windows is secure and cant be physically broken in too. Couldnt believe I could do it with a USB stick haha.
[23:03] <Senjai> Good times.
[23:03] <Senjai> arguing8
[23:04] <Senjai> ***
[23:04] <oojava> wow thanks for the help all im going to go do more research
[23:04] <kunji> oojava:Why give them a liveCD?  You can do a full install to a usb instead, and that will not have ubiquity (I think)
[23:05] <oojava> ok how much space do i need on the usb inorder to fully install
[23:05] <kunji> Anybody know if ubiquity is installed during the install process?  I think it's not, but I'm not sure
[23:05] <dr_willis_> physical access to a box = very little security
[23:05] <KxTwo> why would software show up on the software list but then say I can't download it.
[23:05] <kunji> oojava: Like 4 gigs, I would go for an 8 though
[23:06] <dr_willis_> KxTwo:  we would need a more specific error message.. like one from the apt-get install command
[23:06] <oojava> kunji:  k thanks
[23:06] <meelu> Hello again, I need to setup ipv6 on my server which has ubuntu 12.x, I have the Gateway, Netmask and Ip/64. Can anyone give me the easiest method which i can use with ubuntu please, i tried editing /etc/network/interfaces but it doesn't seem to make any difference.
[23:06] <onitaL> uh oh
[23:06] <KxTwo> ubuntu software center, zsnes emulator no install option, more options says: There isn’t a software package called “zsnes” in your current software sources.
[23:07] <escott> meelu, you should be dualstack capable by default
[23:07] <dr_willis_> !info zsnes
[23:07] <meelu> escot, i don't see the ip given to me with  ip -6 addr show dev eth0
[23:07] <meelu>  though
[23:07] <dr_willis_> KxTwo:  its in the universe repo.   what ubuntu reelase are you using?
[23:08] <meelu> escott, *
[23:08] <KxTwo> 12.04
[23:08] <kunji> meelu: I thought ipv6 was used out of the box?  Hmm, I haven't really played with ipv6 yet though.  Probably also ask in ##networking
[23:08] <dr_willis_> KxTwo:  be sure universe is enabled.  then do a sudo apt-get update. and sudo apt-get upgrade. and try installing it again
[23:09] <oojava> one last novice question if they download or install anything using apt-get (like if I demo the command to them) will it messup or leave a trace on their windows box?
[23:09] <escott> meelu, where are you and what kind of connection to the internet do you have?
[23:09] <KxTwo> where do you go to do that?
[23:09] <KxTwo> im in software sources
[23:09] <Senjai> oojava: no.
[23:09] <meelu> escott, is this relevant?
[23:09] <dr_willis_> KxTwo:  use the terminal.
[23:09] <escott> meelu, yes
[23:10] <Senjai> oojava: if your using persistent storage no
[23:10] <Senjai> oojava: otherwise you cant install anything anyway. Or if you install onto their disk drive.
[23:10] <KxTwo> dr_willis_, I do not know how to enable or check repos in terminal
[23:10] <meelu> escott, the server is in netherlands, the ipv6 works, i forgot how i set it up before. Just reinstalled the server again.
[23:10] <kunji> oojava: Nope, it will install the packages to the USB drive in the case of a full install.  In the case of the liveCD they are installed to the virtual disc per se and will not survive a reboot.
[23:10] <dr_willis_> KxTwo:  use the gui apps if you want to be sure universe is enableed.
[23:10] <KxTwo> dr_willis_, thats what im asking about lol
[23:11] <oojava> thanks kunji  and Senjai
[23:11] <dr_willis_> KxTwo:  then use the terminal to do the update/upgrade
[23:11] <KxTwo> I thought it was under the synaptic package manager and software sources
[23:11] <escott> meelu, ok. i just wanted to make sure you werent some residential internet user whose isp may or may not have enabled them
[23:11] <dr_willis_> use the dash to search for 'software sources' perhaps
[23:12] <meelu> thanks.
[23:12] <KxTwo> thats wher eim at
[23:12] <KxTwo> you can access it through a few different ways
[23:12] <KxTwo> but see no option for universe repo
[23:13] <KxTwo> wait yes I do
[23:13] <KxTwo> and its already activate
[23:13] <Sendoushi> so... i've made some nfs shares. gone to mac os and stroked it and it finds a open port and tcp on this ip. when i try to connect to the nfs server it says: "You do not have permission to access this server"
[23:14] <KxTwo> ok dr_willis_ I did it and still no luck
[23:15] <KxTwo> !zsnes
[23:15] <oojava> just saw that there is also a live cd that works for mac does this allow the same root access that the live cd does on windows?
[23:16] <dr_willis_> KxTwo:  did what exactlky.. and what error messages?  use pastebin  for long pasted./
[23:16] <KxTwo> its the same as before
[23:16] <KxTwo> universe is enabled
[23:16] <KxTwo> I updated and upgrade
[23:16] <KxTwo> it still says there is no package by that name
[23:17] <DeadWeasel> kunji: Ok, before I go buy something how do I switch to another driver for wlan0?
[23:17] <KxTwo> !info zsnes
[23:17] <iceroot> KxTwo: please paste the output of "cat /etc/issue" "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "sudo apt-get update"
[23:18] <iceroot> !paste | KxTwo
[23:19] <DeadWeasel> are USB wireless cards inherently difficult on 12.05 x54/
[23:19] <DeadWeasel> x64?
[23:19] <rocky_> i do have 64 bit ubuntu, in software center, can i install 32 bit jdk- i don't see it
[23:19] <arvendu> Hello Guy need some centos help if anyone can
[23:19] <escott> DeadWeasel, it depends on the chipset
[23:19] <bean> DeadWeasel, x64, 12.04?
[23:19] <OzBorne> hello
[23:19] <DeadWeasel> bean, yes.
[23:20] <bean> DeadWeasel, It'll depend on what kind.
[23:20] <OzBorne> i use Fedora
[23:20] <OzBorne> ubuntu is for chicks
[23:20] <iceroot> rocky_: yes but why?
[23:20] <bean> !centos | arvendu
[23:20] <bean> aw man, theres nothing about that
[23:20] <Senjai> arvendu: this is a channel for ubuntu, not centos
[23:20] <DeadWeasel> http://linuxplained.com/5-best-ubuntu-compatible-wireless-cards-usb/  is this still valid?
[23:20] <Senjai> Try #centos
[23:20] <lundy> anyone know how I can run a Virtual box of windows through ubuntu?
[23:20] <ubuntu-nooby> "dmesg | grep EXT4" spits out: "__ext4_get_inode_loc:3630: inode #5770532: block 23068914: comm ureadahead: unable to read itable block" and there are 3 more lines like it - does that mean my harddrive is failing?
[23:20] <iceroot> rocky_: sudo apt-get install packagename:i386 to install the 32bit version but why? use the 64bit versions
[23:21] <escott> lundy, install vbox, start vbox, create virtual machine, start machine, install windows
[23:21] <iceroot> lundy: install virtulbox and start the vm
[23:21] <Sendoushi> can anyone help me around here with nfs?
[23:21] <OzBorne> does netbsd is for elite?
[23:21] <iceroot> !anyone | Sendoushi
[23:21] <rocky_> iceroot, this is required for juniper vpn
[23:21] <escott> ubuntu-nooby, sounds more like the filesystem may be corrupted
[23:21] <iceroot> OzBorne: its offtopic here
[23:21] <OzBorne> ok
[23:21] <Sendoushi> iceroot: already asked...
[23:21] <iceroot> Sendoushi: i dont see a detailed and usefull question
[23:22] <escott> ubuntu-nooby, boot the install media and run fsck on the disk
[23:22] <iceroot> Sendoushi: just this "anyone" thing
[23:22] <KxTwo> god damn it
[23:22] <iceroot> !nfs | Sendoushi
[23:22] <escott> ubuntu-nooby, although it could be the disk is failing and you are looking at the wrong line. try grep -C10 for some context of that error
[23:23] <kevinch> hi, it appears my boot disk has ran out of room on my server install (mysql server won't start), I can't seem to find whats taking up all the space.  Does mysql take up a lot of space??
[23:23] <kevinch> Its just an xbmc database
[23:23] <rocky_> iceroot, how do i check package name of OpenJDK Java 7 Runtime shown in software center?
[23:23] <lundy> apt-get search virtualbox
[23:23] <iceroot> kevinch: du -sh /
[23:23] <Sendoushi> iceroot: but i've questioned. anyway, i shared a folder on ubuntu (ubuntu is under a vm on a mac os host). after setting the nfs share, on mac os terminal i "stroke" and i see the 2049 port is open with nfsd under certain ip. try to connect to the nfs folder and it says to me: "You do not have permission to access this server." the question is... how to solve this
[23:23] <escott> kevinch, baobob is a gui tool to identify where disk usage is happening
[23:23] <Sendoushi> iceroot: by the way been following that link
[23:23] <kevinch> escott: can that be run on a server?
[23:24] <DeadWeasel> escott: description: Motherboard product: M5A97 vendor: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
[23:24] <iceroot> Sendoushi: paste your /etc/export and your mount-command
[23:24] <DeadWeasel> amd quad core
[23:24] <KxTwo> ok iceroot here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/1634733/
[23:24] <DeadWeasel> escott: description: Motherboard product: M5A97 vendor: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
[23:24] <escott> DeadWeasel, of the usb device
[23:24] <Sendoushi> iceroot: i've followed the Nfs server not the nfs4 server
[23:24] <ubuntu-nooby> escott: do you mean "dmesg | grep -C10"
[23:24] <Sendoushi> but a sec...
[23:25] <escott> DeadWeasel, and before you go and paste that. no i would not know what is a good wireless chipset
[23:25] <escott> ubuntu-nooby, with your regex yes
[23:25] <iceroot> KxTwo: please paste "apt-cache policy zsnes"
[23:25] <DeadWeasel> escott: okie dokey.
[23:25] <escott> kevinch, if you have it installed sure
[23:26] <Sendoushi> iceroot: i have 4 lines on export looking the same (different folders) as this: /Homes 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_subtree_check). The ubuntu-local-ip is 192.168.1.105
[23:26] <Platz> heya!  in xterm my meta-b and meta-f (alt-b and alt-f) are producing unicode gibberish instead of moving forward and backward on the bash cli.  but on urxvt it's working fine.  Any ideas on how to correct the behavior in xterm?
[23:26] <kevinch> alright I'm going to try GT5, I'm wondering if mysql is hogging all the space...
[23:26] <kevinch> I'mm getting errors like this right now
[23:26] <kevinch> mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/admiral/.gt5-diffs': No space left on device
[23:26] <Oakdawg> when i am installing ubuntu my display   gets messed up which f6 other options selection do i make to fix this
[23:26] <iceroot> Sendoushi: /Homes? not /home? does the user you are using to connect have read permission on that dir?
[23:27] <Sendoushi> iceroot: i've created Homes folder just to test
[23:27] <Sendoushi> i think i've added permission but... how could i do that?
[23:28] <iceroot> Sendoushi: ls -all /Homes
[23:28] <Sendoushi> iceroot: root and nobody under there
[23:28] <iceroot> Sendoushi: drwxr-xr-x  that line is interesting
[23:28] <Sendoushi> hum?
[23:29] <iceroot> Sendoushi: drwxr-xr-x  3 root    root     4096 Mai 24  2012 .
[23:29] <iceroot> Sendoushi: that line for "."
[23:29] <escott> iceroot, seems pretty normal for a /home dir
[23:29] <Sendoushi> sorry still didn't get it :s
[23:29] <iceroot> Sendoushi: also remeber, nfs is doing UID mapping, not username mapping
[23:29] <iceroot> escott: that was my example
[23:29] <Sendoushi> aaah iceroot ok i found that
[23:30] <Sendoushi> sorry ...
[23:30] <Sendoushi> so... what do you think is wrong here?
[23:30] <levo> does ubuntu have a narrator thing like windows ? (i wanna use it for Goldendict)
[23:30] <iceroot> Sendoushi: i still didnt saw the line
[23:30] <escott> levo, narrator. you mean text to speech?
[23:30] <levo> yes escott
[23:30] <Sendoushi> cant copy paste but you want the line that has the nobody or the root one?
[23:30] <escott> levo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech
[23:30] <Oakdawg> does anyone know?
[23:31] <iceroot> Sendoushi: i want the drwx-r-x thing
[23:31] <Sendoushi> drwxr-xr-x 25 root root 4096 Feb 10 23:04
[23:31] <Sendoushi> drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody nogroup 4096 Feb 10 23:04
[23:31] <Sendoushi> those are the two lines existent
[23:31] <KxTwo> iceroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1634778/
[23:31] <drop2> What
[23:31] <drop2> What's teh differnece between LTS and normal ubuntu?
[23:31] <iceroot> KxTwo: seems fine
[23:32] <KxTwo> thats what im saying
[23:32] <iceroot> !lts | drop2
[23:32] <escott> !lts | drop2
[23:32] <iceroot> KxTwo: sudo apt-get install zsnes:i386
[23:32] <ubuntu-nooby> escott: it printed to much to put here so I made a pastbin: http://pastebin.com/2NYEGPfa  The only line that looks really evil is one that says end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 200552392
[23:32] <iceroot> Sendoushi: hm, looks fine for me and the export line is fine too
[23:32] <drop2> Ah, I see! Thanks
[23:32] <iceroot> Sendoushi: you restartet nfs after you editied the export file?
[23:32] <Oakdawg> when i am installing ubuntu my display   gets messed up which f6 other options selection do i make to fix this
[23:33] <Sendoushi> now i should connect with something like nfs://192.168.1.105/Homes right?
[23:33] <KxTwo> ok that seems to be working not sure why it wouldnt isntall via software cener
[23:33] <Sendoushi> i think i restarted but how could i do such thing?
[23:33] <Sendoushi> so i redo
[23:33] <escott> ubuntu-nooby, scsi parity error. check your electrical connections
[23:33] <tama92> Hello !
[23:34] <tama92> Can someone help me ? I've got a weird problem....
[23:34] <Platz> in xterm my meta-b and meta-f (alt-b and alt-f) are producing unicode gibberish instead of moving forward and backward on the bash cli.  but on urxvt it's working fine.  What should I investigate to correct this?
[23:34] <iceroot> Sendoushi: sudo mount ipaddress:/Homes /media/foobar
[23:34] <Senjai> !ask | tama92
[23:34] <escott> ubuntu-nooby, ie turn off, open the case make sure everything is plugged in correctly and no wires are pinched
[23:35] <Oakdawg> does anyone know the problem i am having?
[23:35] <tama92> When my computer is connected to wifi, other devices can't connect
[23:35] <Sendoushi> iceroot: done, mounted to the desktop strangely... terminal doesn't tell me anything and i don't see anything different on desktop
[23:36] <Senjai> tama92: what do you mean other devices
[23:36] <ubuntu-nooby> escott: will do BBL after I replace cables
[23:36] <iceroot> Sendoushi: you mounted it to /home/username/Desktop?
[23:36] <kevinch> escott: when I run sudo du -sh / it hangs
[23:36] <kevinch> i freed up some space, i have about 300mb free now
[23:36] <Sendoushi> iceroot: /Users/user/Desktop
[23:36] <escott> kevinch, du will take a long time
[23:36] <tama92> I have an android device and tablet and they both can't connect
[23:36] <kevinch> okay
[23:36] <iceroot> Sendoushi: which system is using such strange folders?
[23:36] <Sendoushi> mac os
[23:36] <iceroot> Sendoushi: ...
[23:36] <tama92> They are stuck at "obtaining IP address"
[23:37] <iceroot> Sendoushi: ##aple ##jail or something like that, ask them how to access nfs
[23:37] <Oakdawg> do i select nomodeset?
[23:37] <escott> Sendoushi, i always thought it was /Users
[23:37] <tama92> Seems to be a dhcp problem
[23:37] <Sendoushi> iceroot: anyway ubuntu side is ok right?
[23:37] <Senjai> tama92: that is a problem with your router. Nothing on your computer should be able to affect the router
[23:37] <Senjai> tama92: I agree
[23:37] <iceroot> Sendoushi: and dont mount something directly into an existing folder, specially not in Desktop
[23:37] <iceroot> Sendoushi: ubuntu side is fine
[23:37] <Senjai> tama92: you can fix that bit assigning static IP addresses to your computer
[23:37] <iceroot> Sendoushi: the export files is looking fine
[23:37] <Sendoushi> ok thanks for all :)
[23:37] <escott> tama92, perhaps yours router is misconfigured to only give out a single ip address
[23:38] <Senjai> tama92: I generally stay away from DHCP
[23:38] <tama92> But when I turn off the wifi on the computer, they can connect again :/
[23:39] <Sendoushi> iceroot: permissions fine right?
[23:39] <iceroot> Sendoushi: yes
[23:39] <iceroot> Sendoushi: for reading yes, not for writing
[23:39] <Oakdawg> anyone able to answer that question i asked?
[23:40] <tama92> I already tried disabling the dhcp setting of the router, but it didn't work
[23:40] <Sendoushi> iceroot: ooohhh how can i set it to write?
[23:40] <Senjai> Oakdawg: I cant understand your issue, you're description is very garbeled
[23:40] <iceroot> Sendoushi: nfs will by default dont use the user root (uid 0), it will always connect you as nobody when using root by default
[23:40] <Senjai> tama92: leave it on on the router, you assign static Ips using your computer, not the router, so it requests specific static information everytime
[23:40] <tama92> Also, when using Windows, all the devices can connect
[23:41] <Sendoushi> iceroot: sorry but... what does that have to do with writing abilities? dont the nobody has the same permissions?
[23:41] <iceroot> Sendoushi: no
[23:41] <brightknight> How to change the hard disk encryption password?
[23:41] <Oakdawg> my display goes all funny looking when installing... which f6 other options  selection do i use to fix this on the install
[23:41] <JuJuBee> Oakdawg: have you tried the "nomodeset" boot option?
[23:41] <bean> !nomodeset | Oakdawg
[23:41] <escott> brightknight, luks or ecryptfs
[23:41] <iceroot> Sendoushi: rwxr-xr-x means the owner (root) can write (w) the group and others can only read (r) and execute (x)
[23:41] <Sendoushi> iceroot: on apple channel they are telling me i should be using SMB
[23:42] <iceroot> Sendoushi: and nfs is mapping root to "nobody"
[23:42] <Oakdawg> ok that was what i had thought just wanted to make sure
[23:42] <nomodeset> Please don't call me!
[23:42] <iceroot> Sendoushi: smb is fine
[23:42] <bean> lol, nomodeset
[23:42] <brightknight> escott: I think it is luks it was the one used during setup.
[23:42] <Sendoushi> i'll jsut delete the nfs package and do that
[23:42] <iceroot> !samba | Sendoushi
[23:42] <escott> brightknight, was this whole disk or encrypted home
[23:42] <tama92> When assigning a static ip I can connect but can't open anything
[23:43] <brightknight> escott: I am asking about the whole disk which is luks then.
[23:43] <iceroot> tama92: because you did not set dns and gateway
[23:43] <BEC> can somebody help me reduce the size of a pdf?
[23:43] <escott> brightknight,
[23:43] <escott> http://askubuntu.com/questions/95137/how-to-change-luks-passphrase
[23:43] <tama92> dns is 8.8.8.8 ?
[23:43] <iceroot> tama92: for example, or your router
[23:43] <BEC> I have a 4.1MB color one & another 7.9MB; I need them to be 1MB
[23:43] <Senjai> BEC this is not relevant to Ubuntu, you'll have to ask somewhere else.
[23:44] <magn3ts> How can I install KDM and have it NOT prompt me to choose between Lightdm and KDM?
[23:44] <tama92> Hmm, I'll try
[23:44] <escott> tama92, thats google dns
[23:44] <semi-> start --verbose mysql just says "job failed to start". how do i debug upstart scripts?
[23:44] <magn3ts> I'd like to "preconfigure" it somehow
[23:44] <tama92> Thanks.
[23:45] <laurus> How do I purposely keep a package from updating in the package manager?
[23:46] <iceroot> laurus: with "hold" on dpkg "man dpkg"
[23:46] <bean> !pin | laurus
[23:47] <onitaL> echo $1 hold | dpkg --set-selections
[23:47] <laurus> Thank you!
[23:47] <kevinch> 16gb in /var
[23:47] <kevinch> normal??
[23:47] <escott> kevinch, for some
[23:47] <bean> kevinch, probably depends on what you have installed
[23:47] <iceroot> kevinch: depending what you have stored there
[23:47] <kevinch> any idea how i can trim the fat?
[23:47] <laurus> What about "sudo aptitude hold package_name" ?
[23:48] <laurus> Does making that choice in aptitude affect apt-get as well?
[23:48] <kevinch> or could I mount one a partition on one of my big drives to it?
[23:48] <iceroot> !aptitude | laurus
[23:48] <iceroot> kevinch: sure
[23:48] <kevinch> I'd have to move everything off of it first correct and then mount it?
[23:49] <kevinch> or if i set it in fstab to /var/ will it automatically take care of it and remove it off my boot hdd and put it on my larger drives
[23:49] <kevinch> that i set it to
[23:49] <iceroot> kevinch: correct but dont mount it directly in /var/. use /var/lib/mysql/ as the mountpoint
[23:49] <kevinch> bad wording sorry
[23:49] <escott> kevinch, yes
[23:49] <bean> kevinch, no, you need to move the data yourself
[23:50] <kevinch> iceroot: why /var/lib/mysql/?
[23:50] <iceroot> kevinch: i thought you are facing no free space because of big mysql databases
[23:50] <kevinch> probably
[23:50] <iceroot> kevinch: sudo du -sh /var/
[23:50] <iceroot> kevinch: should show /var/lib/ and then /var/lib/mysql/
[23:51] <onitaL> kevinch, what services has your system?
[23:51] <kevinch> mysql folder only has 16mb
[23:51] <Or6itz> I just installed Ubuntu on a second harddrive. I am trying to boot into it, but all I am getting is grub4dos??
[23:52] <tama92> Tried both dns, not working (destination host unreachable)
[23:52] <bean> kevinch, then is it /var/log that has a bunch?
[23:54] <tama92> Is it because of dhcpd ?
[23:55] <kevinch> let me see
[23:55] <escott> tama92, dns is a layer above basic connectivity. if you cannot ping 8.8.8.8 then you cannot use 8.8.8.8 as a dns server. sounds like you dont have an ip address/gateway configured
[23:55] <kevinch> there a way to limit du to one level right?
[23:55] <escott> kevinch, --depth i think. check the man page
[23:55] <kevinch> nvm got it
[23:55] <Sendoushi> how can i set max permissions to a folder?
[23:55] <Sendoushi> read-write for root and everybody
[23:56] <kevinch> sudo chmod 777 /somefolder
[23:56] <iceroot> Sendoushi: chmod 777 /Folder
[23:56] <Sendoushi> thanks
[23:56] <tama92> I put my gateway IP (192.168.1.254) with a static IP. That's the one used by my computer
[23:56] <ubuntu-nooby> escott: Swapped to a brand new Sata cable and the errors dropped off instantly and my boot time is much lower too?  Thank you very much for your help.
[23:56] <werzer23> how can I map port 8080 to port 80?
[23:57] <escott> ubuntu-nooby, i would fsck the filesystem as well. hopefully none of the errors got onto the medium
[23:58] <matlock> cross your fingers about that too
[23:58] <onitaL> werzer23, you want to do that without a router?
[23:58] <kunji> werzer23: Umm, in a typical situation you would do that as it goes through your router, could you provide more details?
[23:59] <tama92> I couldn't ping the router too :/
[23:59] <ubuntu-nooby> escott: will do.  Atleast now I know my disk doesn't have to get tossed into the trash
[23:59] <kevinch> found the culprit
[23:59] <kevinch> 16G	/var/lib/backuppc
[23:59] <kevinch> I don't even use that any more
[23:59] <kevinch> just was messing around with it
[23:59] <matlock> tama92, you're trying to what?
[23:59] <ubuntu-nooby> escott: Thanks again, and take care