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youngbradley26why cant I see any actual convrsations?  I would like to know what I am doing wrong,please. Thank you00:24
juliohmyoungbradley26, ?00:25
Obsidian1723no one is talking.00:26
youngbradley26yes00:26
juliohmyoungbradley26, no one is actually chatting, most times we chat to solve problems00:27
juliohmotherwise we keep in silence working or doing something else00:27
mandoguityoungbradley26:   people will respond if they can help you.   this channel is not very active (ubuntu one is always busy).    if no answer right away, then repost your query in 30 minutes00:27
youngbradley26Ok.  Yeah That is why I came here.  I am new to the forums but Have been learning ubuntu slowly for about 3 years00:28
james147youngbradley26: This is a help channel, it tends to stay quite untill someone has a problem, you might want to join #kubuntu-offtopic for general chat00:28
youngbradley26ahh good to know.. I cant get flash to work for Amazon vids and My iphone wont connect00:28
youngbradley26I really like GNU/Linux and am trying to break free on MS00:29
youngbradley26I will got to Offtopic.  thanks for the sdvice00:30
juliohmyoungbradley26, if you dislike MS, you also should dislike Apple, it's even worst for the FOSS philosophy00:31
youngbradley26yeah if i could put Linux on my iPhone, I would.  I'm very novice and not a programmer but I can navigate learn quite well00:33
juliohmyoungbradley26, you can buy an Android instead of an iPhone00:35
juliohmAndroid is Linux-based00:35
juliohmAnyways, good night,00:35
youngbradley26thank you.  I did not realize that.  I heard they can still get viruses but that is heresay.  Thank you and good night to you too00:48
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KatbuntuHi10:28
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AciD`perhaps somebody could change the topic to prevent user to try the kubuntu-ppa backport of KDE 4.10, has there is a big nasty bug in it ; plasma-desktop crashing on startup, with no workaround (http://dilfridge.blogspot.de/2013/02/kde-4100-plasma-desktop-crashes-and-qt.html)10:35
lordievaderAciD`: For many users 4.10 works fine. Perhaps the problem is related to Gentoo.10:39
AciD`it's not10:39
AciD`I'm affected (using kubuntu)10:39
AciD`and apparently other disto too, according to various comments10:40
AciD`anyway, not having plasma-desktop is a major bug and should be a no-go..10:40
lordievaderAciD`: I see, that is annoying. Speak to an operator if you want it changed. And also it would be a good idea to file a bug-report.10:42
AciD`https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31175110:42
ubottuKDE bug 311751 in widget-systemtray "QML system tray crashes plasma-desktop on startup" [Crash,Resolved: upstream]10:42
AciD`I don't see any operator here, hence the "open request" :)10:42
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juliohmHi, what is the name of the app responsible for connecting to a wireless network on Kubuntu 12.10?11:27
juliohmI'm trying to run it on Openbox startup11:27
sbivoljuliohm: it's plasma-widget-networkmanagement, a Plasma applet. I think you can't run it without Plasma11:31
juliohm:(11:32
juliohmI was suspecting this dependency based on some forum posts i found about knetworkmanager11:32
juliohmsbivol, i can't find it here11:33
juliohmit doesn't autocomplete on the terminal11:33
juliohmprobably because it's not callable from the terminal. :(11:34
sbivoljuliohm: you can add it only via Plasma, as a widget11:34
juliohmwhat would be the lightweight solution for it? install knetworkmanager seems too hard11:35
juliohmsbivol, understand11:35
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james147juliohm: you can run plasmawidgets without plasma-desktop by running it with plasma-windowed11:56
sbivoljames147: thanks for pointing it, I forgot about that.12:00
ovidiu-florinhello world12:01
juliohmjames147, but how to make the app fit in the dock?12:01
james147juliohm: what dock?12:01
juliohmtint212:02
james147juliohm: you cannot, but the gnome networkmanager can12:02
juliohmyes, i was just trying to do without installing other apps12:03
sbivoljuliohm: Wicd might be a good option for you. it has both a KDE and GTK frontend12:09
juliohmsbivol, nice, thanks for the tip, i'll look into it later.12:10
james147sbivol: so does network manager ^^12:11
sbivoljames147: true, except Wicd is a standalone application, while the KDE interface for NetworkManager is a widget12:12
james147sbivol: dosn't really matter if you are not using plasma-desktop whether you use the gtk or kde front end. And the gtk frontend to networkmanager is easier to install then wicd (since wicd will remove networkmanager)12:14
sbivoljames147: agree.12:15
KatbuntuIs it possible to get rid of that "Desktop" box on the desktop?12:29
nikolaj_basherHi i have this problem when I use Amarok to podcast it say it require12:46
nikolaj_basherMPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder, but it can't find the right plugin because i can't still play the podcast12:46
nikolaj_basheris there a way to fix this problem12:46
ovidiu-florinnikolaj_basher: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras12:50
ovidiu-florinthis will install the codecs for MP3 and other common formats.12:51
nikolaj_basherovidiu-florin, ohh I though there was any difference between ubuntu-restricted.... and kubuntu thats maybe the problem12:52
ovidiu-florinnot sure about the difference. maybe there are a few. I don't know. I just use kubuntu-.... for kubuntu and ubuntu-... for ubuntu and so on12:53
nikolaj_basherthis didn't solve the problem12:54
nikolaj_basher:-(12:54
nikolaj_basherAmarok still asking for12:54
nikolaj_basherMPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder12:54
ovidiu-florinis mp3-decoder installed?12:56
yofelit's probably missing some gstreamer plugin12:56
ovidiu-florinnikolaj_basher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP313:00
nikolaj_basherI'll check the link out13:04
nikolaj_basherthe gstreamer0.10-fluendo-plugins-mp3 is allso installed13:08
yofelnikolaj_basher: is gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly installed?13:13
nikolaj_basheryofel, now It worked, I installed vlc and after that no problem13:14
nikolaj_basherovidiu-florin, thanks for taking time13:14
nikolaj_basher:-)13:14
ovidiu-floringlad it works13:15
yofel:/13:16
ovidiu-florinyofel: here as well13:16
apacheloggeryofel: bug in muon, complain to JontheEchidna13:17
apacheloggeror rather, qapt13:17
yofelyay13:18
apacheloggerthe codec installer did not return the right code so gst/phonon did not refresh the cache13:18
apacheloggerwas only fixed recently in git13:18
shadeslayerdidn't we already fix that13:18
shadeslayeryeah13:18
* shadeslayer rages13:18
BluesKajHi all13:25
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Amarilishi! did someone can recommend a tv tunner working good in linux?14:39
genii-aroundAmarilis: Pretty much anything by Hauppage14:39
NadeemMy mic isn't working altough I created a new user on it and it is working on that, and on other distros on my system, I don't know how messed it.14:40
Amarilis@genii-around: thank you14:43
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test1_helo all16:21
test1_i have aproblem with my audio device16:22
genii-around!details16:22
test1_i am using the ubuntu 12.10 (amd64) but after installing it16:22
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."16:22
test1_i have no /dev/mixer device in the /dev forlder !!  why ?16:23
test1_i a using the xawtv application for viewing the TV and it need to /dev/mixer16:23
test1_to play the sound of TV, and thus16:23
test1_i can not now hear the sound of TV, because16:24
test1_my TV card has an audio output jack, that must be connected to the "Line input" jack of16:24
test1_the motherboard sound card to play the TV sound, and16:25
genii-aroundxawtv is old and still wants to use OSS sound backend16:25
test1_the "xawtv" application use the /dev/mixer devices to give this sound from "Line input" of sound card to play that sound on the main speaker16:25
test1_genii-around, but i caould use it with the ALSA sound backend in the debian linux with kernel 2.6.3516:26
BluesKaj!tvtime | test1_16:27
BluesKaj!info tvtime16:27
ubottutvtime (source: tvtime): television display application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-9ubuntu1.1 (quantal), package size 702 kB, installed size 1866 kB16:27
BluesKajtest1_, ^16:27
genii-around!helpersnack | BluesKaj16:27
ubottuBluesKaj: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!16:27
BluesKajwhich tuner card test1_ ?16:27
test1_my exact question is : how can we give the sound that is entered to system from the "Line input" of motherboard ? from what device in the /dev/ forder?16:28
* BluesKaj enjoys the cookie with coffee16:28
genii-around!info liboss4-salsa-asound2     ..may also work16:29
ubottu'..may' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable16:29
genii-around!info liboss4-salsa-asound216:29
ubottuliboss4-salsa-asound2 (source: oss4): OSS to Alsa compatibility library - binary compatibility symlink. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.2-build2005-2ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 6 kB, installed size 38 kB16:29
test1_BluesKaj, the "Brooktree Corporation Bt878" on the other hand " Bttv16:29
BluesKajtest1_, as genii-around said , xawtv is old ...try tvtime if your card is anti16:29
BluesKajan ati16:29
genii-aroundBrooktree is ancient now too since Conexant bought them out a long time ago16:30
BluesKajwow , never heeard of it16:30
BluesKajmy old tv card is an ati which uses the line in as well16:32
test1_BluesKaj, if your tv card uses the "Line in" of motherboard, how you can use it under the ubuntu 12.10 ? whit what device in /dev/ forder ?16:33
BluesKajtest1_, sorry I don't have it connected anymore16:35
BluesKajit's been about 5 yrs since I used it16:36
test1_hi all, my exact question is : how can we give the sound that is entered to system from the "Line input" of motherboard ? from what device in the /dev/ forder?16:37
test1_in other word, when we musr hear the sound of "Line in" Jack what must we do under the ubuntu 12.10 ?16:38
genii-aroundtest1_: I think you have to either use another application which uses the current sound system and not OSS, or else to install the OSS->ALSA bridge as I indicated earlier16:38
test1_genii-around, whithout installing the OSS->ALSA bridge , how we can hear the sound from "Line in" jack of motherboard in ubuntu 12.10 ?16:40
genii-aroundI don't believe you can.16:41
test1_genii-around, why ? thus how can we use the "Line in" Jack in the ubuntu 12.10, while in older versions such as 10.04 i could do that .16:44
genii-aroundtest1_: Because OSS, ALSA, and PulseAudio all present different methods for applications to interface to the sound layer, none of which are interchangeable.16:45
test1_hi all,how we can hear the sound from "Line in" jack of motherboard in ubuntu 12.10 ?17:01
test1_genii-around, i cound hear the sound of "Line in" jack now, by using the "alsamixer"17:10
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avihayI want to run dhclient eth1 as root on a machine without x after boot, where should I put it?18:14
mime_1111hello ppl. by default my volume wheel only works with 2 of the 3 speakers i have on my laptop, the last channel must be moved by alsa, any help? thnx18:16
tsimpsonavihay: you should use /etc/network/interfaces to setup the network instead, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html#dynamic-ip-addressing18:17
avihaytsimpson: thanks18:19
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mr0wlis there a PPA for libreoffice?18:28
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genii-aroundmr0wl: Apparently, https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa18:31
mr0wlgenii-around: seems like the packages are outdated18:31
genii-around9 weeks is not that old18:32
genii-aroundmr0wl: The pre-release PPA is also there somewhere18:33
genii-aroundeg: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-prereleases    .. last build 3 weeks ago18:34
mr0wlgenii-around: thanks, i came across that too18:35
mr0wli was looking for a stable PPA18:35
mr0wlmaybe i'll just try to use Calligra18:35
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amichairdoes anyone know how to redo an operation in dolphin after an undo?19:12
amichairor at least see the details of what exactly the undo did?19:12
shadeslayerctrl + shift + z?19:13
amichairshadeslayer: doesn't seem to do anything19:14
shadeslayerI don't see a redo option19:14
shadeslayeramichair: maybe #kde would know19:15
shadeslayerfailing which, file a bug :)19:15
amichairshadeslayer: everyone's sleeping there19:15
shadeslayerhahaha19:15
amichairhttp://www.kde.org/applications/system/dolphin/ says undo/redo support19:15
amichairas does wikipedia, and a bunch of other google results19:16
shadeslayertrue19:16
shadeslayerI guess you could maybe ask in #kde-devel, but they might just redirect you to #kde19:17
shadeslayerso possibly phrase your question in more development terms :P19:17
shadeslayer"Link foo says that redo functionality is available in dolphin, but I can't redo bar, possibly a bug?"19:18
shadeslayerso, I have to go, nighters :)19:19
amichairthanks shadeslayer, cya around19:20
shadeslayer:)19:21
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pixiedusthello! how can i change language on kubuntu for user only? I try kde settings but firefox and other gtk applications doesnt respond to changes :(19:56
octopuspixiedus, system setting -> locale20:12
Dark_ApostropheWhat's the easiest, least complication-prone way for a 12.10 user to upgrade to KDE 4.10?20:18
awayadd the relevant ppa, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade20:19
Dark_ApostropheWhat would be the relevant ppa?20:24
Dark_Apostrophe(I'm still not sure what PPAs are - haven't used Linux full time since the Debian Etch days)20:24
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Taucatdos not working???21:25
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phoenix_firebrdgood night everyone22:15
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