[00:24] <youngbradley26> why cant I see any actual convrsations?  I would like to know what I am doing wrong,please. Thank you
[00:25] <juliohm> youngbradley26, ?
[00:26] <Obsidian1723> no one is talking.
[00:26] <youngbradley26> yes
[00:27] <juliohm> youngbradley26, no one is actually chatting, most times we chat to solve problems
[00:27] <juliohm> otherwise we keep in silence working or doing something else
[00:27] <mandoguit> youngbradley26:   people will respond if they can help you.   this channel is not very active (ubuntu one is always busy).    if no answer right away, then repost your query in 30 minutes
[00:28] <youngbradley26> Ok.  Yeah That is why I came here.  I am new to the forums but Have been learning ubuntu slowly for about 3 years
[00:28] <james147> youngbradley26: This is a help channel, it tends to stay quite untill someone has a problem, you might want to join #kubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[00:28] <youngbradley26> ahh good to know.. I cant get flash to work for Amazon vids and My iphone wont connect
[00:29] <youngbradley26> I really like GNU/Linux and am trying to break free on MS
[00:30] <youngbradley26> I will got to Offtopic.  thanks for the sdvice
[00:31] <juliohm> youngbradley26, if you dislike MS, you also should dislike Apple, it's even worst for the FOSS philosophy
[00:33] <youngbradley26> yeah if i could put Linux on my iPhone, I would.  I'm very novice and not a programmer but I can navigate learn quite well
[00:35] <juliohm> youngbradley26, you can buy an Android instead of an iPhone
[00:35] <juliohm> Android is Linux-based
[00:35] <juliohm> Anyways, good night,
[00:48] <youngbradley26> thank you.  I did not realize that.  I heard they can still get viruses but that is heresay.  Thank you and good night to you too
[02:09] <JrLourenco> noo..
[02:48] <s3r> hmmmm
[10:28] <Katbuntu> Hi
[10:35] <AciD`> perhaps somebody could change the topic to prevent user to try the kubuntu-ppa backport of KDE 4.10, has there is a big nasty bug in it ; plasma-desktop crashing on startup, with no workaround (http://dilfridge.blogspot.de/2013/02/kde-4100-plasma-desktop-crashes-and-qt.html)
[10:39] <lordievader> AciD`: For many users 4.10 works fine. Perhaps the problem is related to Gentoo.
[10:39] <AciD`> it's not
[10:39] <AciD`> I'm affected (using kubuntu)
[10:40] <AciD`> and apparently other disto too, according to various comments
[10:40] <AciD`> anyway, not having plasma-desktop is a major bug and should be a no-go..
[10:42] <lordievader> AciD`: I see, that is annoying. Speak to an operator if you want it changed. And also it would be a good idea to file a bug-report.
[10:42] <AciD`> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311751
[10:42] <AciD`> I don't see any operator here, hence the "open request" :)
[11:27] <juliohm> Hi, what is the name of the app responsible for connecting to a wireless network on Kubuntu 12.10?
[11:27] <juliohm> I'm trying to run it on Openbox startup
[11:31] <sbivol> juliohm: it's plasma-widget-networkmanagement, a Plasma applet. I think you can't run it without Plasma
[11:32] <juliohm> :(
[11:32] <juliohm> I was suspecting this dependency based on some forum posts i found about knetworkmanager
[11:33] <juliohm> sbivol, i can't find it here
[11:33] <juliohm> it doesn't autocomplete on the terminal
[11:34] <juliohm> probably because it's not callable from the terminal. :(
[11:34] <sbivol> juliohm: you can add it only via Plasma, as a widget
[11:35] <juliohm> what would be the lightweight solution for it? install knetworkmanager seems too hard
[11:35] <juliohm> sbivol, understand
[11:56] <james147> juliohm: you can run plasmawidgets without plasma-desktop by running it with plasma-windowed
[12:00] <sbivol> james147: thanks for pointing it, I forgot about that.
[12:01] <ovidiu-florin> hello world
[12:01] <juliohm> james147, but how to make the app fit in the dock?
[12:01] <james147> juliohm: what dock?
[12:02] <juliohm> tint2
[12:02] <james147> juliohm: you cannot, but the gnome networkmanager can
[12:03] <juliohm> yes, i was just trying to do without installing other apps
[12:09] <sbivol> juliohm: Wicd might be a good option for you. it has both a KDE and GTK frontend
[12:10] <juliohm> sbivol, nice, thanks for the tip, i'll look into it later.
[12:11] <james147> sbivol: so does network manager ^^
[12:12] <sbivol> james147: true, except Wicd is a standalone application, while the KDE interface for NetworkManager is a widget
[12:14] <james147> sbivol: dosn't really matter if you are not using plasma-desktop whether you use the gtk or kde front end. And the gtk frontend to networkmanager is easier to install then wicd (since wicd will remove networkmanager)
[12:15] <sbivol> james147: agree.
[12:29] <Katbuntu> Is it possible to get rid of that "Desktop" box on the desktop?
[12:46] <nikolaj_basher> Hi i have this problem when I use Amarok to podcast it say it require
[12:46] <nikolaj_basher> MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder, but it can't find the right plugin because i can't still play the podcast
[12:46] <nikolaj_basher> is there a way to fix this problem
[12:50] <ovidiu-florin> nikolaj_basher: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:51] <ovidiu-florin> this will install the codecs for MP3 and other common formats.
[12:52] <nikolaj_basher> ovidiu-florin, ohh I though there was any difference between ubuntu-restricted.... and kubuntu thats maybe the problem
[12:53] <ovidiu-florin> not sure about the difference. maybe there are a few. I don't know. I just use kubuntu-.... for kubuntu and ubuntu-... for ubuntu and so on
[12:54] <nikolaj_basher> this didn't solve the problem
[12:54] <nikolaj_basher> :-(
[12:54] <nikolaj_basher> Amarok still asking for
[12:54] <nikolaj_basher> MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder
[12:56] <ovidiu-florin> is mp3-decoder installed?
[12:56] <yofel> it's probably missing some gstreamer plugin
[13:00] <ovidiu-florin> nikolaj_basher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[13:04] <nikolaj_basher> I'll check the link out
[13:08] <nikolaj_basher> the gstreamer0.10-fluendo-plugins-mp3 is allso installed
[13:13] <yofel> nikolaj_basher: is gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly installed?
[13:14] <nikolaj_basher> yofel, now It worked, I installed vlc and after that no problem
[13:14] <nikolaj_basher> ovidiu-florin, thanks for taking time
[13:14] <nikolaj_basher> :-)
[13:15] <ovidiu-florin> glad it works
[13:16] <yofel> :/
[13:16] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: here as well
[13:17] <apachelogger> yofel: bug in muon, complain to JontheEchidna
[13:17] <apachelogger> or rather, qapt
[13:18] <yofel> yay
[13:18] <apachelogger> the codec installer did not return the right code so gst/phonon did not refresh the cache
[13:18] <apachelogger> was only fixed recently in git
[13:18] <shadeslayer> didn't we already fix that
[13:18] <shadeslayer> yeah
[13:18]  * shadeslayer rages
[13:25] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:38] <Guest72895> hi
[14:39] <Amarilis> hi! did someone can recommend a tv tunner working good in linux?
[14:39] <genii-around> Amarilis: Pretty much anything by Hauppage
[14:40] <Nadeem> My mic isn't working altough I created a new user on it and it is working on that, and on other distros on my system, I don't know how messed it.
[14:43] <Amarilis> @genii-around: thank you
[16:21] <test1_> helo all
[16:22] <test1_> i have aproblem with my audio device
[16:22] <genii-around> !details
[16:22] <test1_> i am using the ubuntu 12.10 (amd64) but after installing it
[16:23] <test1_> i have no /dev/mixer device in the /dev forlder !!  why ?
[16:23] <test1_> i a using the xawtv application for viewing the TV and it need to /dev/mixer
[16:23] <test1_> to play the sound of TV, and thus
[16:24] <test1_> i can not now hear the sound of TV, because
[16:24] <test1_> my TV card has an audio output jack, that must be connected to the "Line input" jack of
[16:25] <test1_> the motherboard sound card to play the TV sound, and
[16:25] <genii-around> xawtv is old and still wants to use OSS sound backend
[16:25] <test1_> the "xawtv" application use the /dev/mixer devices to give this sound from "Line input" of sound card to play that sound on the main speaker
[16:26] <test1_> genii-around, but i caould use it with the ALSA sound backend in the debian linux with kernel 2.6.35
[16:27] <BluesKaj> !tvtime | test1_
[16:27] <BluesKaj> !info tvtime
[16:27] <BluesKaj> test1_, ^
[16:27] <genii-around> !helpersnack | BluesKaj
[16:27] <BluesKaj> which tuner card test1_ ?
[16:28] <test1_> my exact question is : how can we give the sound that is entered to system from the "Line input" of motherboard ? from what device in the /dev/ forder?
[16:28]  * BluesKaj enjoys the cookie with coffee
[16:29] <genii-around> !info liboss4-salsa-asound2     ..may also work
[16:29] <genii-around> !info liboss4-salsa-asound2
[16:29] <test1_> BluesKaj, the "Brooktree Corporation Bt878" on the other hand " Bttv
[16:29] <BluesKaj> test1_, as genii-around said , xawtv is old ...try tvtime if your card is anti
[16:29] <BluesKaj> an ati
[16:30] <genii-around> Brooktree is ancient now too since Conexant bought them out a long time ago
[16:30] <BluesKaj> wow , never heeard of it
[16:32] <BluesKaj> my old tv card is an ati which uses the line in as well
[16:33] <test1_> BluesKaj, if your tv card uses the "Line in" of motherboard, how you can use it under the ubuntu 12.10 ? whit what device in /dev/ forder ?
[16:35] <BluesKaj> test1_, sorry I don't have it connected anymore
[16:36] <BluesKaj> it's been about 5 yrs since I used it
[16:37] <test1_> hi all, my exact question is : how can we give the sound that is entered to system from the "Line input" of motherboard ? from what device in the /dev/ forder?
[16:38] <test1_> in other word, when we musr hear the sound of "Line in" Jack what must we do under the ubuntu 12.10 ?
[16:38] <genii-around> test1_: I think you have to either use another application which uses the current sound system and not OSS, or else to install the OSS->ALSA bridge as I indicated earlier
[16:40] <test1_> genii-around, whithout installing the OSS->ALSA bridge , how we can hear the sound from "Line in" jack of motherboard in ubuntu 12.10 ?
[16:41] <genii-around> I don't believe you can.
[16:44] <test1_> genii-around, why ? thus how can we use the "Line in" Jack in the ubuntu 12.10, while in older versions such as 10.04 i could do that .
[16:45] <genii-around> test1_: Because OSS, ALSA, and PulseAudio all present different methods for applications to interface to the sound layer, none of which are interchangeable.
[17:01] <test1_> hi all,how we can hear the sound from "Line in" jack of motherboard in ubuntu 12.10 ?
[17:10] <test1_> genii-around, i cound hear the sound of "Line in" jack now, by using the "alsamixer"
[18:14] <avihay> I want to run dhclient eth1 as root on a machine without x after boot, where should I put it?
[18:16] <mime_1111> hello ppl. by default my volume wheel only works with 2 of the 3 speakers i have on my laptop, the last channel must be moved by alsa, any help? thnx
[18:17] <tsimpson> avihay: you should use /etc/network/interfaces to setup the network instead, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html#dynamic-ip-addressing
[18:19] <avihay> tsimpson: thanks
[18:28] <mr0wl> is there a PPA for libreoffice?
[18:31] <genii-around> mr0wl: Apparently, https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa
[18:31] <mr0wl> genii-around: seems like the packages are outdated
[18:32] <genii-around> 9 weeks is not that old
[18:33] <genii-around> mr0wl: The pre-release PPA is also there somewhere
[18:34] <genii-around> eg: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-prereleases    .. last build 3 weeks ago
[18:35] <mr0wl> genii-around: thanks, i came across that too
[18:35] <mr0wl> i was looking for a stable PPA
[18:35] <mr0wl> maybe i'll just try to use Calligra
[19:12] <amichair> does anyone know how to redo an operation in dolphin after an undo?
[19:12] <amichair> or at least see the details of what exactly the undo did?
[19:13] <shadeslayer> ctrl + shift + z?
[19:14] <amichair> shadeslayer: doesn't seem to do anything
[19:14] <shadeslayer> I don't see a redo option
[19:15] <shadeslayer> amichair: maybe #kde would know
[19:15] <shadeslayer> failing which, file a bug :)
[19:15] <amichair> shadeslayer: everyone's sleeping there
[19:15] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[19:15] <amichair> http://www.kde.org/applications/system/dolphin/ says undo/redo support
[19:16] <amichair> as does wikipedia, and a bunch of other google results
[19:16] <shadeslayer> true
[19:17] <shadeslayer> I guess you could maybe ask in #kde-devel, but they might just redirect you to #kde
[19:17] <shadeslayer> so possibly phrase your question in more development terms :P
[19:18] <shadeslayer> "Link foo says that redo functionality is available in dolphin, but I can't redo bar, possibly a bug?"
[19:19] <shadeslayer> so, I have to go, nighters :)
[19:20] <amichair> thanks shadeslayer, cya around
[19:21] <shadeslayer> :)
[19:56] <pixiedust> hello! how can i change language on kubuntu for user only? I try kde settings but firefox and other gtk applications doesnt respond to changes :(
[20:12] <octopus> pixiedus, system setting -> locale
[20:18] <Dark_Apostrophe> What's the easiest, least complication-prone way for a 12.10 user to upgrade to KDE 4.10?
[20:19] <away> add the relevant ppa, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
[20:24] <Dark_Apostrophe> What would be the relevant ppa?
[20:24] <Dark_Apostrophe> (I'm still not sure what PPAs are - haven't used Linux full time since the Debian Etch days)
[21:23] <tau> yo
[21:25] <Taucat> ok
[21:25] <Taucat> kokokoko
[21:25] <Taucat> dos not working???
[21:26] <Taucat> help
[22:15] <phoenix_firebrd> good night everyone