[02:15] <aeioufy> Going to try Lubuntu on my aspire one netbook, any suggestions?
[03:22] <aeioufy> Where can I download lubuntu 12.04 32bit. I keep getting directed to lubuntu 12.10 or the 64bit version
[03:22] <wxl> aeioufy: strange, where are you downloading from?
[03:25] <aeioufy> cdimage.ubuntu.com
[03:25] <aeioufy> I could am not sure if its 64bit or 32 bit. Where can I find a 32bit distro please?
[03:25] <wxl> so you mean http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso
[03:25] <wxl> ooh that's alternate
[03:25] <wxl> sorry
[03:25] <aeioufy> I want the alternate?
[03:26] <wxl> no
[03:26] <wxl> accident
[03:26] <wxl> 1s
[03:26] <aeioufy> I used the alternate for ubuntu.
[03:26] <wxl> oh well there you go thtne
[03:26] <wxl> you don't need it per se
[03:26] <aeioufy> Ok, what do I need?
[03:26] <wxl> do you want the desktop or alternate version?
[03:27] <aeioufy> It gets frustrating when I ask questions based on things I read and get suggestions.
[03:27] <wxl> if your system is very low on resources of if you'd just prefer the speed of the alternate, you might just use alternate
[03:27] <wxl> typical choice is desktop
[03:27] <wxl> both do the same thing, though, except that there is no live environment with alternate
[03:27] <aeioufy> Netbook usr.
[03:27] <aeioufy> oh.
[03:27] <wxl> i've used desktop on my netbook without problem
[03:27] <aeioufy> Gui enviro you mean.
[03:27] <wxl> no
[03:27] <wxl> well, yes
[03:27] <wxl> for the installer
[03:28] <wxl> both result with a gui installtion
[03:28] <aeioufy> Oh, ok.
[03:28] <aeioufy> Gotcha.
[03:28] <wxl> such is the nature of lubuntu, as the l stands for lxde, which is a gui
[03:28] <wxl> so the above is alternate
[03:28] <wxl> and desktop is:
[03:28] <aeioufy> Can I use make the desktop version bootable to my usb? Yes or no.
[03:28] <wxl> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[03:28] <wxl> you can make anything you want bootable to usb assuming you have enough space on the drive
[03:30] <aeioufy> Ok, just making sure. Was under the impression some distros were only used in certain ways, such as you could open and live test it before you install it.
[03:30] <aeioufy> I am wishing this version will work in installing it at the boot screen from my usb.
[03:30] <wxl> well if that's what you want, then don't get alternate or mini or anythig except desktop but there's nothing precluding that or any other bootable image from going on a drive
[03:30] <wxl> is this an eepc?
[03:31] <aeioufy> huh?
[03:31] <aeioufy> netbook
[03:31] <wxl> is your netbook and eeepc?
[03:31] <aeioufy> aspire one acer
[03:31] <aeioufy> I only have a netbook.
[03:31] <wxl> ah
[03:31] <wxl> that's fine
[03:31] <wxl> now let's see here
[03:31] <wxl> !usb
[03:31] <ubottu> For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[03:31] <aeioufy> Spent about 8 hours researching what to put on it. I am about damned ready hehe.
[03:31] <wxl> there you go
[03:31] <aeioufy> I know how to do that.
[03:31] <aeioufy> I use yumi on wdoughs
[03:32] <wxl> well come on back if you have any other issues
[03:32] <aeioufy> Last question> promise> What is a linux iso bootable image maker. I know yumi is for the other os.
[03:32] <wxl> see that link above :)
[03:32] <aeioufy> gotchme.
[03:34] <wxl> aeioufy: the first of those two links, btw. probably obvious, but
[03:34] <aeioufy> OH, sweet, ITs built into the lubuntu os.
[03:34] <aeioufy> Just read it, nice. I miss having ubuntu. Tried that for two days and royally screwed up.
[03:34] <aeioufy> I just purchased two external hard drives, an external cd burner and some more flash usb.
[03:34] <wxl> ubuntu i sgood at its core
[03:34] <wxl> just too much cruft
[03:35] <wxl> that's what's nice about lubuntu
[03:35] <aeioufy> Linux.org says debian is about the most solid from starting at the ground up and being the most customable.
[03:35] <wxl> i think people could argue best distro for days
[03:36] <aeioufy> Yea, each have theireasons. So you see what mine are I think. Behind one week in linux install in class. Was sick.
[03:36] <aeioufy> Teacher is making us use centos
[03:36] <wxl> in the end, linux is linux
[03:36] <aeioufy> On virtual box, I mean fug. Let us install it or something.
[03:36] <wxl> but linux is certainly NOT unix. phew.
[03:37] <aeioufy> I know the history.
[03:37] <aeioufy> Micro computer technology class first year student. FOA certified. A+ certified.
[03:37] <wxl> i was referring more to the fact that they are similar, but very very different. no philosophy or history in mind.
[03:37] <aeioufy> OH.
[03:38] <aeioufy> I like the gnu's principles.
[03:38] <wxl> that's all fine and dandy but in the end all that matters is the software :)
[03:39] <aeioufy> Or emp.
[03:39] <aeioufy> Good night.
[03:39] <wxl> same to you
[03:39] <wxl> as i said, come on back if you have issues
[03:41] <aeioufy> first time off dalnet in 18 years
[03:41] <aeioufy> I just realized. I went from ubuntu 12.04 to using 12.10 in the mist of a 2 day net binge.
[03:41] <aeioufy> No wonder why I brought my last pc back....
[03:42] <aeioufy> We have to learn microsoft windows server 2008 by the way, server admin. I am dreading it.
[03:42] <wxl> ew
[03:42] <aeioufy> a few weeks from starting linux server admin.
[03:42] <aeioufy> I am really behind.
[03:43] <wxl> no more getting sick!
[03:43] <aeioufy> Being the only 32 year old in the class helps.
[03:43] <aeioufy> Everyone just learned a few days ago what irc is. they think its just a botnet thing.
[03:43] <wxl> hahahah
[03:44] <aeioufy> We got to use the net on a class and I was in an irc room/googling answers.
[03:44] <wxl> i still remember my first days of irc…
[03:44] <aeioufy> IRC pwns for net tests.
[03:44] <aeioufy> Irc is where I first learned scripting, playing a mud brought me to it.;
[03:45] <wxl> i cut my teeth programming a C=128 :P
[03:45] <aeioufy> I just checked on my friend who got me into the internet in 95, havent seen him since 98. nor heard of him. He knows 18 programing languages fluently.
[03:45] <aeioufy> Going to help desk him.
[03:46] <wxl> that was a little after i first found the internet
[03:46] <wxl> would have been about 91 for me
[04:07] <wxl> !md5 | aeioufy
[04:07] <ubottu> aeioufy: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:08] <Dii_Pundiih> Hi. i just installed lubuntu 12.04 on a laptop and looked a film when the cord jumped out and the mashine shutdown.. now it says that it cant mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/838a...... on root failed invalied argument. and that it cant mount /dev /sys /and /proc on /root and that target dont have recuested /sbin/init  Try passing init= bootarg.   What can i do?
[04:08] <wxl> aeioufy: if you want to get really hardcore, you can run the md5 on the iso and compare against published values and then you can run the md5 on the usb itself and see if that matches up, too, just to remove doubt that something went awry in the usb creation process
[04:17] <aeioufy> I been checking hashes for years now
[04:17] <aeioufy> I think its because I made the bootable image read only?
[04:18] <wxl> well
[04:18] <wxl> remember when i asked you about eeepc? they can be a pain in the BUTT to boot from usb
[04:18] <wxl> that may be your issue
[04:19] <wxl> i had different results setting the bios to boot from usb than i did picking the boot selector
[04:19] <wxl> aeioufy: also you might get different results from different ports
[04:19] <wxl> Dii_Pundiih: does it boot fine otherwise?
[04:20] <aeioufy> yea
[04:20] <Dii_Pundiih> wxl: yes im at (initramfs)
[04:21] <wxl> Dii_Pundiih: oh boo, that's not good. so do you have your drive encrypted or anything?
[04:22] <Dii_Pundiih> I did update and restart it ones and it worked / no
[04:22] <wxl> Dii_Pundiih: it works now?
[04:22] <Dii_Pundiih> No im now at initramfs
[04:23] <aeioufy> ok, I'll try the bios boot change
[04:23] <wxl> Dii_Pundiih: maybe your drive failed :(
[04:23] <wxl> Dii_Pundiih: you could try a live CD and check the disk
[04:23] <Dii_Pundiih> It seems like it dont find.. well i dont know what it dont find but.. /ok but can i check if it is there somehow?
[04:23] <Dii_Pundiih> ok
[04:24] <Dii_Pundiih>  I do that/ can i do something from the live cd at the same time to.. check els that everything is ok with the instalation?
[04:25] <wxl> sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[04:25] <wxl> assuming it is sda1
[04:26] <aeioufy> I hope this eeepc works out
[04:27] <wxl> Dii_Pundiih: gparted can do the same thing too if you boot into the live CD desktop
[04:28] <aeioufy> i love gparted
[04:28] <aeioufy> i used it without knowintg anything first. epic fail
[04:30] <wxl> hah
[04:32] <aeioufy> walmarts 14 day policy allowed me to rush into ubuntu, ho hands barred
[04:32] <aeioufy> like zerg rush.
[04:45] <aeioufy> Spent the last 3 days on this machine, updates, updates/security/up dates. No fun stuff yet. Going for a quad boot eeepc
[04:45] <Dii_Pundiih> wxl: it tryes to recover journal now for some 5 min.. Strange that it reacted like this.. my desktop gets shut down like plopp often and it has never been a problem../now it says it found a block it cant read and that it resulted in a short read.. ignore error? yes. Force rewrite? .. I did not say yes to the first Q, it did it self.. but should i say yes to the other?
[04:45] <Dii_Pundiih> Upps i did hit enter before the Q were seen.. Maybe it just waited for the answer but just did not print it out..
[05:01] <aeioufy> ifstram: unable to find a medium containing a live file system?
[05:01] <aeioufy> Could the pc be trying to install to another usb stick I have plugged in?
[05:03] <aeioufy> answered my own question
[05:23] <aeioufy> when i try to install 12.04 lubuntu 32bit desktop, i am taken to command line? how do I stop that
[07:36] <Dii_Pundiih> wxl: Hi. thank you for kicking me in the right directin. Disk had 750 moved blocks and 120 waiting :( But luckyly i had an other laying around. godnight!
[12:22] <raringringtail> hello
[12:23] <raringringtail> ???
[14:11] <reloader> hi! can someone help me with hibernate problem on lubuntu 12.04? I have Fujitsu Siemens Amilo M1450G laptop. Please!
[14:12] <reloader> System is behaving weirdly. Sometimes hibernation works, sometimes not. Often when resuming from hibernation sound is choppy and reboot the is only option.
[14:15] <reloader> Also, often it will start going in hibernation, but then just resume screensaver and asking me for password, like the process of hibernation stopped somewhere. Often it goes to hibernation, and after resuming i get log in screen like i shutdowned it
[14:15] <reloader> without having programs that i left opened.
[17:04] <tortik> Hi all. Every time I turn on the PC I get an error window with 'Close' and 'Report to developers' buttons. Where can I show the details about this error?
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[19:08] <tortik> Every time when I turn PC I get an error message 'there is error is a system program (cancel / send report) How can I identify what is wrong?
[19:08] <wxl> tortik: submit it to the developers!
[19:08] <wxl> but you can click the thing that says show details or whatever and see what package is affected
[19:08] <wxl> my guess it's probably the darn notification daemon which has been a thorn in the side of lubuntu imho
[19:10] <Unit193> You hit send report, then you can click details.
[19:11] <wxl> thanks, i couldn't remember how it worked
[19:11] <wxl> tortik: so what is it?
[19:11] <Unit193> There's two dialogs, he's talking about the first.
[19:12] <tortik> wxl: unfortunately the window hasn't got such gui element.. only two buttons.. I already many times sent a problem so I want to identify the problem
[19:12] <wxl> no gui but it has a button?
[19:13] <wxl> tortik: can you provide a screenshot?
[19:13] <tortik> not gui but gui element such 'details / show details / etc'
[19:13] <tortik> yes
[19:13] <tortik> just a minute
[19:14] <tortik> here is a screenshot... Lubuntu 12.04 lts http://higgs.rghost.ru/private/43729419/74329d4aa36670153d6692fc1daaf939/image.png
[19:15] <wxl> oh cyrillic
[19:15] <wxl> well at least it's a gui :)
[19:15] <tortik> russian... I hot send
[19:15] <wxl> anyways hit the thing that says "send report"
[19:15] <tortik> oh
[19:15] <tortik> I see packages
[19:15] <wxl> cute favicon btw
[19:16] <tortik> lsb-release 4.0-0ubuntu20.2
[19:16] <tortik> what is this package related to?
[19:16] <wxl> that's quite strange
[19:17] <wxl> it just reports the version
[19:17] <wxl> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/lsb-release
[19:17] <tortik> http://higgs.rghost.ru/private/43729501/69ea96d0773afc7c6d16657843d62f4b/image.png
[19:18] <wxl> cool
[19:18] <wxl> well make sure you submit that bug
[19:18] <wxl> it's a strange one for sure
[19:18] <wxl> open a terminal and do "lsb_release -a" and tell me what happens
[19:18] <tortik> what do you mean? post it in a bug tracker or just send the problem?
[19:19] <Unit193> 4.0-0ubuntu20.2 is the current version.
[19:19] <tortik> a sec...
[19:19] <wxl> tortik: those are one in the same-- sending the problem does post it in the bug tracker
[19:19] <tortik> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS Release:	12.04 Codename:	precise
[19:19] <wxl> looks normal to me
[19:20] <wxl> mention the fact that that command works fine in terminal when you send to bug tracker
[19:21] <tortik> so is any way to fix that problem now?
[19:22] <wxl> without knowing what the problem is, nope
[19:22] <wxl> never had that before, that's for sure
[19:23] <Unit193> Indeed, I've had several apport crashes, that's not one of them.
[19:24] <tortik> Also such thing I get with cups driver... printer doesn't work well and such problem every running lubuntu
[19:26] <wxl> personally i'd hoist that one up the cups flag
[19:26] <wxl> incidentially that's #cups on here
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[21:57] <twmb> does lubuntu have seed files similar to Debian for unattended installation?
[21:58] <Unit193> !automate | Like this?
[21:58] <Unit193> ubottu: ping
[21:58] <ubottu> Like this?: Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html - See also !cloning
[21:59] <ubottu> pong
[21:59] <ubottu> pong!
[22:01] <twmb> Unit193: yes that would be like it... figured I'd ask in case lubuntu changed the part that ubuntu inherited the seed files from debian
[22:54] <ofbea> hi
[22:54] <zleap> hi
[22:54] <ofbea> is lubuntu send local search to amazon like ubuntu?
[22:54] <zleap> what is the package for logging in at the login screen but connecting to a remote computer e.g pi
[22:55] <zleap> not sure
[23:09] <wxl> zleap: huh?
[23:12] <zleap> never mind
[23:12] <zleap> at one time you could get to a login screen and select some option to login toi a remote computer,  this has gone and i don't know what to i nstall to allow it
[23:17] <wxl> zleap: never seen that before, not at the login screen at least.
[23:17] <zleap> ok
[23:18] <wxl> there are tons of remote login options though
[23:18] <wxl> ssh
[23:18] <wxl> vnc
[23:18] <wxl> rdp
[23:18] <wxl> vpn in a sense
[23:18] <wxl> etc. etc.
[23:19] <zleap> ok
[23:19] <zleap> i have vnc
[23:19] <zleap> bt i jhave to login first to run the client
[23:19] <zleap> if there was an option at login screen to connect to remote computer it would be an option
[23:19] <wxl> i don't think anything like that ever existed
[23:20] <zleap> not in lubuntu anyway
[23:21] <wxl> this is what you mean? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/ubuntu-12-10-login-screen-adds-remote-desktop-access
[23:22] <zleap> yes
[23:23] <wxl> yeah you'd need to set up lubuntu to do it
[23:24] <wxl> probably wouldn't be that hard…