[00:04] <magn3ts> schweet. I was having issues with that yesterday, it broke cinnamon-settings
[00:04] <magn3ts> Also, can anyone help me debug this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1120938
[00:08] <penguin42> nothing in the log looks particularly evil; some -ve height widgets that don't look sane; and some moans over '10 partman-target/arch_help/unknown/generic doesn't exist'
[00:09] <magn3ts> penguin42: any other way to tell what it's doing while it's chillaxing without gdb or something more hands on?
[00:10] <penguin42> magn3ts: I don't know much about the innards of ubiquity to answer that I'm afraid
[00:10] <magn3ts> penguin42: alright, well, I'll take a screwdriver to it tonight and report on the bug, thanks for looking
[03:23] <ad5300> hi, on a fresh install my system is using gallium llvmpipe instead of the intel driver for sandybridge. unity alone eats up a good 40% of my cpu. Is there any way to fix this?
[03:25] <bjsnider> ad5300, what is the output of glxinfo?
[03:25] <ad5300> let me pastebin that for you
[03:25] <bjsnider> you'll have to install mesa-utils if you haven't
[03:26] <ad5300> http://pastebin.com/HpyLUWM4
[03:27] <bjsnider> what the bleep
[03:27] <bjsnider> have you got an /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[03:28] <ad5300> I've been using Ubuntu since Edgy, and I decided to wipe my perfectly working quantal install (backing up /home) to try out raring from a fresh install. It turns out that raring is not working well on my IdeaPad Y570.
[03:28] <ad5300> ~$ cat /etx/X11/xorg.conf cat: /etx/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[03:28] <bjsnider> is this hybrid graphics or something?
[03:28] <ad5300> umm... no.
[03:29] <bjsnider> well, you could look at two logs
[03:29] <bjsnider> dmesg
[03:29] <ad5300> It's an optimus laptop, but it (should) use that Intel by default like it did in Quantal
[03:29] <bjsnider> so it is hybrid
[03:29] <bjsnider> optimus is nvidia
[03:29] <bjsnider> check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:30] <ad5300> Yes, and it also has a Sandy Bridge on-board graphics chip
[03:30] <bjsnider> that will tell you what's being loaded and possibly why
[03:30] <bjsnider> can you turn the nvidia chip off in the bios?
[03:31] <ad5300> I don't think that is possible. The BIOS on this thing is incredibly crippled :/ basically just time and date
[03:31] <bjsnider> ok, pastebin those logs
[03:32] <ad5300> http://pastebin.com/YuXw6q4U
[03:33] <ad5300> This is a 100% fresh install from the 2/10/13 daily build. I didn't even restore /home from my external yet.
[03:33] <ad5300> new partition and everything
[03:39] <bjsnider> you're booting a recovery/nomodeset kernel
[03:39] <bjsnider> Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-5-generic root=UUID=eefaa976-7341-4b2b-98b3-50680ecd14e2 ro recovery nomodeset
[03:39] <bjsnider> boot the normal kernel
[03:41] <ad5300> That's odd, I don't remember selecting that option. How do you change that boot line? I don't suppose you can just edit grub.conf anymore...
[03:41] <bjsnider> if that's how you got this far, you'll have to get a log from an older boot
[03:42] <ad5300> I'll try a reboot...
[03:44] <bjsnider> hold shift
[03:44] <bjsnider> after the bios screen hold shift until you see the grub screen
[03:47] <ad5300_> Rebooting without recovery lead me to a "your system is running in low graphics mode" screen
[03:47] <ad5300_> I am typing this from my desktop
[03:48] <ad5300_> After choosing to remain in low graphics for one session, it failed to boot into a graphical environment.
[03:49] <bjsnider> ok, well we need the boot logs
[03:49] <ad5300_> the output of dmesg...?
[03:50] <bjsnider> and the xorg.0.log
[03:52] <ad5300_> let's see what I can do for you without a working desktop environment. I guess I could install ssh on the laptop and pull the files off of it
[03:55] <ad5300_> http://pastebin.com/XLup2Ara
[03:55] <ad5300_> http://pastebin.com/V3UutatW
[03:55] <ad5300_> tedious but it works :/
[03:57] <ad5300_> I just installed the openssh-server package and used cat + copy and paste to get those logs
[04:04] <bjsnider> that being an optimus setup you might need a xorg.conf. did you have one before the wipe/reload?
[04:13] <bjsnider> ad5300_, try adding a basic xorg.conf that tells it to use intel as the driver. you can find lots of examples using google
[04:18] <bjsnider> also, it would be better to go to #ubuntu-x, although they're all sleeping right now. might be better to wait 6-8 hours
[04:22] <ad5300_> bjsnider: I used the default configuration in quantal, which worked perfectly
[04:23] <ad5300_> I used optirun/primusrun to utilize the gtx 550 on it
[04:24] <ad5300_> Might as well go back to quantal. At least that worked. I was really hoping to play with raring on a 'bare metal' installation
[04:29] <ad5300_> That's odd, I managed to get it to boot into a graphical environment, and Mesa is reporting it's OpenGL 3.0 using SandyBridge, but it's not loading unity. I was able to get a terminal using the keyboard shortcut.
[04:30] <ad5300_> I know it's an alpha/dev releast, but it really bothers me when I can't figure out how to fix simple stuff like this, I feel that I should be able to
[04:37] <bjsnider> that glxinfo report sounds correct
[04:38] <bjsnider> ad5300_, you can check .xsession-errors for possible explanations of the unity issue
[07:38] <rigo> hi i have a special problem...
[07:39] <rigo> it is hard to describe, but maybe its a known problem, and easy to solve.
[07:41] <rigo> i have a htpc with server mini installation, an xbmc and an lxde on it. if i connect to the pc with ssh sometimes it "hangs" so i have to wait 1-100sec to see whats happenning on putty or on the vnc remote desktop
[07:41] <rigo> if i have network activity it happens often.
[07:42] <rigo> i dont think its a timeout issue, cause i already tried to ping everything from everywhere constatnly
[07:43] <rigo> if i restart putty / vnc the hang dissappears immediately. but if i dont restart the apps, i have to wait. and its annoying. the pc answers to ping meanwhile the hang
[07:45] <rigo> if i restart the sshd on the htpc the hang is also gone.
[11:57] <setre> any guess on how far from 13.04 being released?
[11:58] <bekks> year 13 month 04 ...
[12:03] <setre> How can I toggle the the launcher in current 13.04?
[12:03] <setre> Do I need to reroute power to the shields?
[12:09] <Tribaal> setre: you can try rerouting power from the shields, but make sure your engineering deck is prepared to handle the pressure if you're within range of enemy blasters
[12:10] <Tribaal> setre: seriously though - you can find launcher options in the "appearance" menu - just type appearance in the dash and switch to that application's "behavior" tab.
[12:11] <setre> Tribaal: I fucking told Scotty to do it last week but he was busy with Romulan ale
[12:11] <setre> Tribaal: hmm thanks.
[12:11] <Tribaal> setre: what a slacker!
[12:11] <Tribaal> setre: hehe np
[12:13] <setre> now to find my localized version
[12:15] <setre> Tribaal: if it's supposed to be in system preferences, that currently only shows "background" as an option to configure
[12:15] <setre> on my version
[12:15] <Tribaal> setre: there should be a "behavior" tab in there
[12:16] <Tribaal> setre: are you sure you're on 13.04?
[12:17] <setre> that's what it says
[12:17] <setre> perhaps it's the translation that isn't done
[12:19] <Tribaal> perhaps
[12:19] <setre> is there perchance a non-ui way to edit unity config?
[12:19] <Tribaal> setre: so if you run "gnome-control-center unity-appearance" that does not have a "behavior" tab?
[12:21] <setre> Tribaal: that opened something that is totally not accessible via system preferences. Yeah I can configure it from there. Thanks
[12:21] <setre> Is it possible to set a keyboard shortcut for showing/hiding the launcher?
[12:21] <Tribaal> setre: it's the "Appearance" application
[12:22] <Tribaal> setre: I don't know - but hitting "super" will work (although it will open the dash too)
[12:22] <setre> "appearance" (or my local equivalent) is not available from system settings
[12:22] <Tribaal> setre: hum
[12:22] <setre> hmm "super"?
[12:23] <Tribaal> setre: "windows"
[12:23] <setre> ah
[12:23] <setre> that disgraceful button
[12:24] <Tribaal> setre: I suggest putting a Ubuntu sticker on it instead
[12:25] <setre> yeah, or a GNU
[12:25] <setre> what's up with the Amazon promotion stuff anyway. Offputting I found it to be honest.
[12:27] <setre> auto hiding does not actually seem to be working, at least not without a restart
[12:28] <setre> also, I found that unity crashes if I restart the network service. That can't be right, right.
[13:25] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[18:09] <fm> how can i get further with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1116587 ?
[18:09] <fm> it is a regression from 12.10
[18:13]  * penguin42 looks
[18:14] <penguin42> fm: When it hangs will it let you do a ctrl-alt-f1 to get a console?
[18:15] <fm> penguin42, yes
[18:15] <fm> the mouse usually even adapts to the background. i.e. i get a hand on links. even though i cannot click anything.
[18:15] <penguin42> fm: Hmm, so you say nothing in /var/log/xorg.0.log, anything in dmesg?
[18:15] <fm> and i can move the mouse without a problem
[18:16] <fm> dmesg empty as well penguin42
[18:16] <fm> happens with the guest account and my private one
[18:16] <penguin42> hmph
[18:16] <penguin42> you might try asking in #ubuntu-x - it would be easier if something actually decided to crash!
[18:18] <fm> penguin42, yeah no crash
[23:05] <dupondje> Oh my god, every version of Ubuntu seems to give me less options to configure things :(
[23:07] <dupondje> system-config-printer works perfect, but no, there is some automatic thing added in gnome control panel, that does NOTHING :(
[23:07] <dupondje> *sad*