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magn3tsschweet. I was having issues with that yesterday, it broke cinnamon-settings00:04
magn3tsAlso, can anyone help me debug this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/112093800:04
ubottuUbuntu bug 1120938 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity hangs after the initial summary screen" [Undecided,New]00:04
penguin42nothing in the log looks particularly evil; some -ve height widgets that don't look sane; and some moans over '10 partman-target/arch_help/unknown/generic doesn't exist'00:08
magn3tspenguin42: any other way to tell what it's doing while it's chillaxing without gdb or something more hands on?00:09
penguin42magn3ts: I don't know much about the innards of ubiquity to answer that I'm afraid00:10
magn3tspenguin42: alright, well, I'll take a screwdriver to it tonight and report on the bug, thanks for looking00:10
ad5300hi, on a fresh install my system is using gallium llvmpipe instead of the intel driver for sandybridge. unity alone eats up a good 40% of my cpu. Is there any way to fix this?03:23
bjsniderad5300, what is the output of glxinfo?03:25
ad5300let me pastebin that for you03:25
bjsnideryou'll have to install mesa-utils if you haven't03:25
ad5300http://pastebin.com/HpyLUWM403:26
bjsniderwhat the bleep03:27
bjsniderhave you got an /etc/X11/xorg.conf?03:27
ad5300I've been using Ubuntu since Edgy, and I decided to wipe my perfectly working quantal install (backing up /home) to try out raring from a fresh install. It turns out that raring is not working well on my IdeaPad Y570.03:28
ad5300~$ cat /etx/X11/xorg.conf cat: /etx/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory03:28
bjsnideris this hybrid graphics or something?03:28
ad5300umm... no.03:28
bjsniderwell, you could look at two logs03:29
bjsniderdmesg03:29
ad5300It's an optimus laptop, but it (should) use that Intel by default like it did in Quantal03:29
bjsniderso it is hybrid03:29
bjsnideroptimus is nvidia03:29
bjsnidercheck /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:29
ad5300Yes, and it also has a Sandy Bridge on-board graphics chip03:30
bjsniderthat will tell you what's being loaded and possibly why03:30
bjsnidercan you turn the nvidia chip off in the bios?03:30
ad5300I don't think that is possible. The BIOS on this thing is incredibly crippled :/ basically just time and date03:31
bjsniderok, pastebin those logs03:31
ad5300http://pastebin.com/YuXw6q4U03:32
ad5300This is a 100% fresh install from the 2/10/13 daily build. I didn't even restore /home from my external yet.03:33
ad5300new partition and everything03:33
bjsnideryou're booting a recovery/nomodeset kernel03:39
bjsniderKernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-5-generic root=UUID=eefaa976-7341-4b2b-98b3-50680ecd14e2 ro recovery nomodeset03:39
bjsniderboot the normal kernel03:39
ad5300That's odd, I don't remember selecting that option. How do you change that boot line? I don't suppose you can just edit grub.conf anymore...03:41
bjsniderif that's how you got this far, you'll have to get a log from an older boot03:41
ad5300I'll try a reboot...03:42
bjsniderhold shift03:44
bjsniderafter the bios screen hold shift until you see the grub screen03:44
ad5300_Rebooting without recovery lead me to a "your system is running in low graphics mode" screen03:47
ad5300_I am typing this from my desktop03:47
ad5300_After choosing to remain in low graphics for one session, it failed to boot into a graphical environment.03:48
bjsniderok, well we need the boot logs03:49
ad5300_the output of dmesg...?03:49
bjsniderand the xorg.0.log03:50
ad5300_let's see what I can do for you without a working desktop environment. I guess I could install ssh on the laptop and pull the files off of it03:52
ad5300_http://pastebin.com/XLup2Ara03:55
ad5300_http://pastebin.com/V3UutatW03:55
ad5300_tedious but it works :/03:55
ad5300_I just installed the openssh-server package and used cat + copy and paste to get those logs03:57
bjsniderthat being an optimus setup you might need a xorg.conf. did you have one before the wipe/reload?04:04
bjsniderad5300_, try adding a basic xorg.conf that tells it to use intel as the driver. you can find lots of examples using google04:13
bjsnideralso, it would be better to go to #ubuntu-x, although they're all sleeping right now. might be better to wait 6-8 hours04:18
ad5300_bjsnider: I used the default configuration in quantal, which worked perfectly04:22
ad5300_I used optirun/primusrun to utilize the gtx 550 on it04:23
ad5300_Might as well go back to quantal. At least that worked. I was really hoping to play with raring on a 'bare metal' installation04:24
ad5300_That's odd, I managed to get it to boot into a graphical environment, and Mesa is reporting it's OpenGL 3.0 using SandyBridge, but it's not loading unity. I was able to get a terminal using the keyboard shortcut.04:29
ad5300_I know it's an alpha/dev releast, but it really bothers me when I can't figure out how to fix simple stuff like this, I feel that I should be able to04:30
bjsniderthat glxinfo report sounds correct04:37
bjsniderad5300_, you can check .xsession-errors for possible explanations of the unity issue04:38
rigohi i have a special problem...07:38
rigoit is hard to describe, but maybe its a known problem, and easy to solve.07:39
rigoi have a htpc with server mini installation, an xbmc and an lxde on it. if i connect to the pc with ssh sometimes it "hangs" so i have to wait 1-100sec to see whats happenning on putty or on the vnc remote desktop07:41
rigoif i have network activity it happens often.07:41
rigoi dont think its a timeout issue, cause i already tried to ping everything from everywhere constatnly07:42
rigoif i restart putty / vnc the hang dissappears immediately. but if i dont restart the apps, i have to wait. and its annoying. the pc answers to ping meanwhile the hang07:43
rigoif i restart the sshd on the htpc the hang is also gone.07:45
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setreany guess on how far from 13.04 being released?11:57
bekksyear 13 month 04 ...11:58
setreHow can I toggle the the launcher in current 13.04?12:03
setreDo I need to reroute power to the shields?12:03
Tribaalsetre: you can try rerouting power from the shields, but make sure your engineering deck is prepared to handle the pressure if you're within range of enemy blasters12:09
Tribaalsetre: seriously though - you can find launcher options in the "appearance" menu - just type appearance in the dash and switch to that application's "behavior" tab.12:10
setreTribaal: I fucking told Scotty to do it last week but he was busy with Romulan ale12:11
setreTribaal: hmm thanks.12:11
Tribaalsetre: what a slacker!12:11
Tribaalsetre: hehe np12:11
setrenow to find my localized version12:13
setreTribaal: if it's supposed to be in system preferences, that currently only shows "background" as an option to configure12:15
setreon my version12:15
Tribaalsetre: there should be a "behavior" tab in there12:15
Tribaalsetre: are you sure you're on 13.04?12:16
setrethat's what it says12:17
setreperhaps it's the translation that isn't done12:17
Tribaalperhaps12:19
setreis there perchance a non-ui way to edit unity config?12:19
Tribaalsetre: so if you run "gnome-control-center unity-appearance" that does not have a "behavior" tab?12:19
setreTribaal: that opened something that is totally not accessible via system preferences. Yeah I can configure it from there. Thanks12:21
setreIs it possible to set a keyboard shortcut for showing/hiding the launcher?12:21
Tribaalsetre: it's the "Appearance" application12:21
Tribaalsetre: I don't know - but hitting "super" will work (although it will open the dash too)12:22
setre"appearance" (or my local equivalent) is not available from system settings12:22
Tribaalsetre: hum12:22
setrehmm "super"?12:22
Tribaalsetre: "windows"12:23
setreah12:23
setrethat disgraceful button12:23
Tribaalsetre: I suggest putting a Ubuntu sticker on it instead12:24
setreyeah, or a GNU12:25
setrewhat's up with the Amazon promotion stuff anyway. Offputting I found it to be honest.12:25
setreauto hiding does not actually seem to be working, at least not without a restart12:27
setrealso, I found that unity crashes if I restart the network service. That can't be right, right.12:28
BluesKajHi all13:25
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fmhow can i get further with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1116587 ?18:09
ubottuUbuntu bug 1116587 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Lenovo T400: With external monitor the system is rarely working for more than 10 minutes" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:09
fmit is a regression from 12.1018:09
* penguin42 looks18:13
penguin42fm: When it hangs will it let you do a ctrl-alt-f1 to get a console?18:14
fmpenguin42, yes18:15
fmthe mouse usually even adapts to the background. i.e. i get a hand on links. even though i cannot click anything.18:15
penguin42fm: Hmm, so you say nothing in /var/log/xorg.0.log, anything in dmesg?18:15
fmand i can move the mouse without a problem18:15
fmdmesg empty as well penguin4218:16
fmhappens with the guest account and my private one18:16
penguin42hmph18:16
penguin42you might try asking in #ubuntu-x - it would be easier if something actually decided to crash!18:16
fmpenguin42, yeah no crash18:18
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dupondjeOh my god, every version of Ubuntu seems to give me less options to configure things :(23:05
dupondjesystem-config-printer works perfect, but no, there is some automatic thing added in gnome control panel, that does NOTHING :(23:07
dupondje*sad*23:07

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