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Prax | I was just courious if there was anymore of an eta for the galaxy nexus image | 05:54 |
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tarelerulz | Is there a release date for Ubuntu phone? Something I couple put on a phone and see it with my own eyes? | 11:44 |
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dpm | hi tarelerulz, this should help with your question: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPhone | 13:20 |
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MostHated | wtb ubuntu phone for nexus 4 : \ | 14:20 |
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KevinWright | Yo, any Weather App people here? | 17:29 |
melnaquib | Hi Kevin | 17:31 |
KevinWright | melnaquib: Hey hey, how are you | 17:31 |
m-b-o | H Kevin | 17:31 |
KevinWright | m-b-o: hi | 17:31 |
melnaquib | fine, we still missing 2 ppl I guess | 17:31 |
Jakub | Hi guys | 17:32 |
KevinWright | Jakub: hello | 17:32 |
KevinWright | that's 3 | 17:32 |
melnaquib | now 1, hi Yakub | 17:32 |
melnaquib | now 1, hi Jakub* | 17:32 |
ToMfromTO | Yes Kevin, hello. | 17:32 |
KevinWright | m-b-o, Jakub, melnaquib, ToMfromTO: Hi all | 17:33 |
KevinWright | m-b-o, Jakub, melnaquib, ToMfromTO: Did you all get a chance to look at the wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPhone/CoreApps/Weather | 17:33 |
rustino | hi everyone! | 17:34 |
Jakub | I did | 17:34 |
m-b-o | yes | 17:34 |
KevinWright | rustino: hi | 17:34 |
rustino | hi Kevin | 17:34 |
ToMfromTO | yes | 17:34 |
KevinWright | Were there any specific questions or comments that come to mind? | 17:35 |
KevinWright | It doesn't have a lot of detail so we should fill in the gaps | 17:35 |
KevinWright | Example, are the user stories valid / complete? | 17:36 |
KevinWright | Any comments about those? | 17:36 |
KevinWright | Something to add? | 17:36 |
m-b-o | I want to add more than one location | 17:36 |
KevinWright | Good idea | 17:36 |
KevinWright | Anything else anyone? | 17:37 |
melnaquib | should there be charts? | 17:37 |
KevinWright | Maybe | 17:37 |
KevinWright | If we can do it, why not! | 17:37 |
KevinWright | I think one of the weather apps I looked at does the same | 17:37 |
KevinWright | It shows by the hour change in temp. | 17:38 |
Jakub | charts in my opinion is must to be | 17:38 |
KevinWright | What other kind of charts? | 17:38 |
Jakub | i really like new.meteo.pl weather from Warsaw University | 17:38 |
melnaquib | charts that soan a week/month of daily temperature | 17:38 |
KevinWright | That's a good idea | 17:39 |
Jakub | charts of temperature, humidity and cloud (if available) | 17:39 |
melnaquib | or just symbols for sunny/cloudy/foggy/snow/etc | 17:39 |
KevinWright | BTW, we need a data source | 17:39 |
KevinWright | The wiki suggests some possible sources | 17:39 |
KevinWright | But maybe we need to look for more | 17:40 |
ToMfromTO | I don't think that charts are an essential part of the application. | 17:40 |
KevinWright | Some simple ones at first might be good | 17:40 |
melnaquib | in later phase, i'd suggest accepting plugins for data sources | 17:40 |
KevinWright | You mean more than one source of data? e.g. to swap between different sources? | 17:40 |
melnaquib | a file with xpath, something similar | 17:40 |
KevinWright | So at first we need to choose one good one | 17:41 |
ToMfromTO | Current weather information and a week forecast is enough for me. | 17:41 |
melnaquib | "to swap between different sources?" yes, and allow user to download a "plugin file" that would naturally come from store later | 17:41 |
KevinWright | I guess we would need to look into that later, but it is a good idea | 17:42 |
KevinWright | Yes the current weather is a must have | 17:42 |
KevinWright | And 5 to 7 day forecast for sure | 17:42 |
KevinWright | What about hourly? | 17:42 |
m-b-o | as a second/detail view perhaps? | 17:43 |
melnaquib | hourly? haven't run into that before | 17:43 |
melnaquib | "as a second/detail view perhaps?" good idea | 17:43 |
KevinWright | I saw it in one app or site | 17:43 |
KevinWright | Yes, it was secondary | 17:43 |
Jakub | I'm using hour weather forcast from Warsaw University. They have so good model that it's really great thing to have | 17:43 |
Jakub | but unfortunately they told me that no API is available | 17:44 |
KevinWright | Ah too bad | 17:44 |
KevinWright | We need a good API for sure | 17:44 |
KevinWright | The one here looks good: http://api.yr.no/weatherapi/documentation | 17:44 |
rustino | information about sunset/moonset sunrise/moonrise | 17:45 |
m-b-o | another api: http://www.weather.com/services/xmloap.html | 17:45 |
KevinWright | But not sure if it covers all use cases | 17:45 |
KevinWright | rustino: that would be good | 17:45 |
KevinWright | So the priority seems to be current weather, 5-7 day forecast, and maybe hourly | 17:46 |
KevinWright | Should or could have might be some additional detail such as humidity, sunset etc. | 17:46 |
melnaquib | should i query a location without stting it? | 17:46 |
melnaquib | like, see how is now in Berlin, without saving the city location | 17:47 |
rustino | wunderground has some interesting api | 17:47 |
rustino | http://www.wunderground.com/weather/api/ | 17:47 |
KevinWright | melnaquib: so you mean the user switching a city | 17:48 |
Jakub | I think the most important are temperature, level of rain and cloudiness | 17:48 |
KevinWright | rustino: does it look easy to use? | 17:48 |
rustino | but has some limitation for free use | 17:48 |
KevinWright | ah too bad | 17:48 |
KevinWright | Wat kind of limitation | 17:48 |
KevinWright | wat == what | 17:48 |
KevinWright | Jakub: agreed | 17:49 |
melnaquib | http://www.wunderground.com/weather/api/d/pricing.html | 17:49 |
rustino | 500 calls/day 10 all/minute | 17:49 |
KevinWright | We should find a free source | 17:49 |
KevinWright | If that determines the limitations on functionality that's OK | 17:49 |
melnaquib | only 3 days forecast | 17:50 |
KevinWright | 3 days isn't so bad | 17:50 |
rustino | http://openweathermap.org/ | 17:50 |
rustino | still beta, but promising | 17:50 |
KevinWright | might be good enough | 17:51 |
KevinWright | OK, maybe the first action point is to collect all the different possible sources of data we can find and compare them | 17:51 |
KevinWright | How does that sound | 17:51 |
Jakub | great idea | 17:52 |
KevinWright | Should all of us give it a try or only a couple of us | 17:52 |
melnaquib | :Kevin, sounds ok, give us a time limit for searching it | 17:52 |
KevinWright | If we all take 1 or 2 days at our leisure it could be enough | 17:52 |
KevinWright | Just a small amount of time to search should be OK | 17:53 |
KevinWright | We already have some good suggestions | 17:53 |
KevinWright | Maybe we will have some duplicate suggestions, but that is OK | 17:53 |
KevinWright | It will confirm the better selections | 17:54 |
KevinWright | How does that sound | 17:54 |
melnaquib | great | 17:54 |
rustino | great | 17:54 |
m-b-o | okay | 17:54 |
Jakub | ok | 17:55 |
KevinWright | ToMfromTO: how does that sound | 17:56 |
KevinWright | OK, where should we collect the information? | 17:57 |
KevinWright | Just share it by email at first? | 17:57 |
ToMfromTO | Sound's just fine, I've found some other sources: http://blog.programmableweb.com/2012/01/11/12-json-weather-apis/ | 17:57 |
KevinWright | Cool | 17:57 |
KevinWright | Once we know the API we are dealing with then we can start some coding and creating more specific action items for the back end | 17:57 |
usererror | trello works great for brainstorming | 17:58 |
KevinWright | usererror: nice suggestion | 17:58 |
usererror | tym | 17:58 |
ToMfromTO | basecamp is great is someone has a payed account | 17:58 |
usererror | never checked it out but I will | 17:59 |
ToMfromTO | *if | 17:59 |
KevinWright | Let's start with a couple of emails and look at trello at the same time | 17:59 |
KevinWright | Alright I think we have the start of a plan | 17:59 |
KevinWright | How about we sync up again on Wednesday everyone? | 18:00 |
m-b-o | would be okay for me | 18:00 |
melnaquib | good for me | 18:00 |
usererror | Good luck to ya guys, glad I could offer useful input - Looking forward to learning from your project (and using it!) | 18:00 |
Jakub | Accuweather has many positive votes on Android Market. Maybe we should also look in that direction...? | 18:01 |
KevinWright | usererror: thanks again for the suggestion | 18:01 |
KevinWright | Jakub: let's check the features | 18:01 |
usererror | feel free to PM me any time if you want someone to brainstorm with or just have a random issue.. | 18:01 |
ToMfromTO | wednesday is fine with me | 18:01 |
usererror | PM or Highlight ** | 18:01 |
KevinWright | Alright Weather App people, thanks for meeting up...ttyl! | 18:02 |
melnaquib | bye evrybody | 18:02 |
m-b-o | cu! | 18:03 |
Jakub | thanks, buy | 18:03 |
Jakub | bye;) | 18:03 |
ToMfromTO | Thanks Kevin, bye | 18:05 |
Jakub | Hevin are You still there? | 18:05 |
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rustino | wed is ok for me | 18:10 |
rustino | tnx everyone! | 18:10 |
rustino | bye bye | 18:10 |
wastrel | hi phonies | 18:31 |
Neo31 | hello folks, can someone provide a mailing list for ubuntu phone please ? | 20:20 |
Neo31 | I am also interested in contributing to the project, is there something I can help with !? | 20:21 |
Lazowik | as for now you can download SDK and write apps | 20:24 |
Lazowik | you can find the list at launchpad | 20:25 |
Neo31 | yes Lazowik , I am aware of that. any todo list or other things I can help with please ? | 20:25 |
Neo31 | ok | 20:25 |
Lazowik | and only there you can subscribe, by joining the group | 20:25 |
Lazowik | as far as I know you can help with development of the core apps | 20:26 |
Neo31 | done | 20:26 |
Neo31 | good :) | 20:26 |
Lazowik | they will be preintalled | 20:26 |
Neo31 | thanks for help Lazowik | 20:26 |
Lazowik | no problem ;) | 20:26 |
ryansipes | Neo31: You can always develop other apps too. | 20:27 |
ryansipes | Neo31: I've been working on a couple that I will make available for the phone once I've had a chance to test them myself (once the phone image is released). | 20:27 |
Neo31 | yep, I wanted to see if there are some requested apps that are not developed yet | 20:27 |
Neo31 | good :) | 20:28 |
nOStahl | hi all | 20:28 |
Neo31 | do you know if there will be some emulator or virtual ubuntu phone soon for testing apps? (I can't afford an expensive phone for now) | 20:29 |
nOStahl | that would be neat | 20:29 |
nOStahl | so I have a buddy with an older common android phone | 20:34 |
nOStahl | what all will he have to do to install ubuntu phone on it | 20:34 |
Lazowik | I'd depend on xda guys | 20:36 |
Neo31 | as I know ubuntu is only supported on the galaxy nexus device for now | 20:36 |
nOStahl | thought the key was, if there are android drivers for your device then ubuntu for phones works on it | 20:36 |
Neo31 | you are on your own for other devices, but they also say it is compatible with android drivers (which is the hardest thing to work on for xda guys) | 20:36 |
Neo31 | yep that's it nOStahl | 20:37 |
Lazowik | I think that the next thing might be screen size | 20:38 |
Lazowik | UI will be probably suited to Nexus | 20:39 |
Neo31 | and cpu + ram | 20:39 |
nOStahl | how much are nexus phones going for now | 20:39 |
Neo31 | high cpu+ram is required to be able to switch to desktop on the same device | 20:39 |
Lazowik | remember you want galaxy nexus, *not* nexus 4 | 20:40 |
Lazowik | gsm | 20:40 |
nOStahl | I'm very excited | 20:40 |
Neo31 | have a look on ebay nOStahl you can find cheaper ones | 20:41 |
nOStahl | 160ish | 20:41 |
nOStahl | not bad | 20:41 |
nOStahl | is ubuntu for phone finally a good phone for IT guys who manage servers on the go lol | 20:42 |
nOStahl | iPhone minority works lol | 20:42 |
Neo31 | it is absolutely | 20:42 |
nOStahl | a real terminal on my phone? :) | 20:42 |
Lazowik | you get terminal out of box | 20:42 |
Neo31 | I am currently a sys and network admin | 20:42 |
nOStahl | now if only I could install it on my iPhone 5 | 20:43 |
Neo31 | there is nothing better than a native linux phone :) | 20:43 |
nOStahl | i do like this iPhone feel | 20:43 |
nOStahl | will we see netflix on ubuntu phone | 21:05 |
Neo31 | i think that depends on netflix! | 21:08 |
nOStahl | I sure hope we will | 21:13 |
nOStahl | what drm did they use for android phones? | 21:13 |
Sinan___ | I want ubuntu phone for my note 2 :) | 21:44 |
Sinan___ | With Samsung smart dock, it'll be an awesome pocket computer | 21:45 |
nOStahl | so how long till we see ubuntu for tablets | 22:14 |
nOStahl | Sinan___: that'd be pretty cool with a dock | 22:15 |
nOStahl | Sinan___: i'd like a laptop dock device just keyboard and monitor etc and maybe a battery | 22:15 |
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