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Praxhola05:53
PraxI was just courious if there was anymore of an eta for the galaxy nexus image05:54
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tarelerulzIs there a release date for Ubuntu phone?  Something I couple put on a phone and see it with my own eyes?11:44
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dpmhi tarelerulz, this should help with your question: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPhone13:20
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MostHatedwtb ubuntu phone for nexus 4 : \14:20
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KevinWrightYo, any Weather App people here?17:29
melnaquibHi Kevin17:31
KevinWrightmelnaquib: Hey hey, how are you17:31
m-b-oH Kevin17:31
KevinWrightm-b-o: hi17:31
melnaquibfine, we still missing 2 ppl I guess17:31
JakubHi guys17:32
KevinWrightJakub: hello17:32
KevinWrightthat's 317:32
melnaquibnow 1, hi Yakub17:32
melnaquibnow 1, hi Jakub*17:32
ToMfromTOYes Kevin, hello.17:32
KevinWrightm-b-o, Jakub, melnaquib, ToMfromTO: Hi all17:33
KevinWrightm-b-o, Jakub, melnaquib, ToMfromTO: Did you all get a chance to look at the wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPhone/CoreApps/Weather17:33
rustinohi everyone!17:34
JakubI did17:34
m-b-oyes17:34
KevinWrightrustino: hi17:34
rustinohi Kevin17:34
ToMfromTOyes17:34
KevinWrightWere there any specific questions or comments that come to mind?17:35
KevinWrightIt doesn't have a lot of detail so we should fill in the gaps17:35
KevinWrightExample, are the user stories valid / complete?17:36
KevinWrightAny comments about those?17:36
KevinWrightSomething to add?17:36
m-b-oI want to add more than one location17:36
KevinWrightGood idea17:36
KevinWrightAnything else anyone?17:37
melnaquibshould there be charts?17:37
KevinWrightMaybe17:37
KevinWrightIf we can do it, why not!17:37
KevinWrightI think one of the weather apps I looked at does the same17:37
KevinWrightIt shows by the hour change in temp.17:38
Jakubcharts in my opinion is must to be17:38
KevinWrightWhat other kind of charts?17:38
Jakubi really like new.meteo.pl weather from Warsaw University17:38
melnaquibcharts that soan a week/month of daily temperature17:38
KevinWrightThat's a good idea17:39
Jakubcharts of temperature, humidity and cloud (if available)17:39
melnaquibor just symbols for sunny/cloudy/foggy/snow/etc17:39
KevinWrightBTW, we need a data source17:39
KevinWrightThe wiki suggests some possible sources17:39
KevinWrightBut maybe we need to look for more17:40
ToMfromTOI don't think that charts are an essential part of the application.17:40
KevinWrightSome simple ones at first might be good17:40
melnaquibin later phase, i'd suggest accepting plugins for data sources17:40
KevinWrightYou mean more than one source of data? e.g. to swap between different sources?17:40
melnaquiba file with xpath, something similar17:40
KevinWrightSo at first we need to choose one good one17:41
ToMfromTOCurrent weather information and a week forecast is enough for me.17:41
melnaquib"to swap between different sources?" yes, and allow user to download a "plugin file" that would naturally come from store later17:41
KevinWrightI guess we would need to look into that later, but it is a good idea17:42
KevinWright Yes the current weather is a must have17:42
KevinWrightAnd 5 to 7 day forecast for sure17:42
KevinWrightWhat about hourly?17:42
m-b-oas a second/detail view perhaps?17:43
melnaquibhourly? haven't run into that before17:43
melnaquib"as a second/detail view perhaps?" good idea17:43
KevinWrightI saw it in one app or site17:43
KevinWrightYes, it was secondary17:43
JakubI'm using hour weather forcast from Warsaw University. They have so good model that it's really great thing to have17:43
Jakubbut unfortunately they told me that no API is available17:44
KevinWrightAh too bad17:44
KevinWrightWe need a good API for sure17:44
KevinWrightThe one here looks good: http://api.yr.no/weatherapi/documentation17:44
rustinoinformation about sunset/moonset sunrise/moonrise17:45
m-b-oanother api: http://www.weather.com/services/xmloap.html17:45
KevinWrightBut not sure if it covers all use cases17:45
KevinWrightrustino: that would be good17:45
KevinWrightSo the priority seems to be current weather, 5-7 day forecast, and maybe hourly17:46
KevinWrightShould or could have might be some additional detail such as humidity, sunset etc.17:46
melnaquibshould i query a location without stting it?17:46
melnaquiblike, see how is now in Berlin, without saving the city location17:47
rustinowunderground has some interesting api17:47
rustinohttp://www.wunderground.com/weather/api/17:47
KevinWrightmelnaquib: so you mean the user switching a city17:48
JakubI think the most important are temperature, level of rain and cloudiness17:48
KevinWrightrustino: does it look easy to use?17:48
rustinobut has some limitation for free use17:48
KevinWrightah too bad17:48
KevinWrightWat kind of limitation17:48
KevinWrightwat == what17:48
KevinWrightJakub: agreed17:49
melnaquibhttp://www.wunderground.com/weather/api/d/pricing.html17:49
rustino500 calls/day 10  all/minute17:49
KevinWrightWe should find a free source17:49
KevinWrightIf that determines the limitations on functionality that's OK17:49
melnaquibonly 3 days forecast17:50
KevinWright3 days isn't so bad17:50
rustinohttp://openweathermap.org/17:50
rustinostill beta, but promising17:50
KevinWrightmight be good enough17:51
KevinWrightOK, maybe the first action point is to collect all the different possible sources of data we can find and compare them17:51
KevinWrightHow does that sound17:51
Jakubgreat idea17:52
KevinWrightShould all of us give it a try or only a couple of us17:52
melnaquib:Kevin, sounds ok, give us a time limit for searching it17:52
KevinWrightIf we all take 1 or 2 days at our leisure it could be enough17:52
KevinWrightJust a small amount of time to search should be OK17:53
KevinWrightWe already have some good suggestions17:53
KevinWrightMaybe we will have some duplicate suggestions, but that is OK17:53
KevinWrightIt will confirm the better selections17:54
KevinWrightHow does that sound17:54
melnaquibgreat17:54
rustinogreat17:54
m-b-ookay17:54
Jakubok17:55
KevinWrightToMfromTO: how does that sound17:56
KevinWrightOK, where should we collect the information?17:57
KevinWrightJust share it by email at first?17:57
ToMfromTOSound's just fine, I've found some other sources: http://blog.programmableweb.com/2012/01/11/12-json-weather-apis/17:57
KevinWrightCool17:57
KevinWrightOnce we know the API we are dealing with then we can start some coding and creating more specific action items for the back end17:57
usererrortrello works great for brainstorming17:58
KevinWrightusererror: nice suggestion17:58
usererrortym17:58
ToMfromTObasecamp is great is someone has a payed account17:58
usererrornever checked it out but I will17:59
ToMfromTO*if17:59
KevinWrightLet's start with a couple of emails and look at trello at the same time17:59
KevinWrightAlright I think we have the start of a plan17:59
KevinWrightHow about we sync up again on Wednesday everyone?18:00
m-b-owould be okay for me18:00
melnaquibgood for me18:00
usererrorGood luck to ya guys, glad I could offer useful input - Looking forward to learning from your project (and using it!)18:00
JakubAccuweather has many positive votes on Android Market. Maybe we should also look in that direction...?18:01
KevinWrightusererror: thanks again for the suggestion18:01
KevinWrightJakub: let's check the features18:01
usererrorfeel free to PM me any time if you want someone to brainstorm with or just have a random issue..18:01
ToMfromTOwednesday is fine with me18:01
usererrorPM or Highlight **18:01
KevinWrightAlright Weather App people, thanks for meeting up...ttyl!18:02
melnaquibbye evrybody18:02
m-b-ocu!18:03
Jakubthanks, buy18:03
Jakubbye;)18:03
ToMfromTOThanks Kevin, bye18:05
JakubHevin are You still there?18:05
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rustinowed is ok for me18:10
rustinotnx everyone!18:10
rustinobye bye18:10
wastrelhi phonies18:31
Neo31hello folks, can someone provide a mailing list for ubuntu phone please ?20:20
Neo31I am also interested in contributing to the project, is there something I can help with !?20:21
Lazowikas for now you can download SDK and write apps20:24
Lazowikyou can find the list at launchpad20:25
Neo31yes Lazowik , I am aware of that. any todo list or other things I can help with please ?20:25
Neo31ok20:25
Lazowikand only there you can subscribe, by joining the group20:25
Lazowikas far as I know you can help with development of the core apps20:26
Neo31done20:26
Neo31good :)20:26
Lazowikthey will be preintalled20:26
Neo31thanks for help Lazowik20:26
Lazowikno problem ;)20:26
ryansipesNeo31: You can always develop other apps too.20:27
ryansipesNeo31: I've been working on a couple that I will make available for the phone once I've had a chance to test them myself (once the phone image is released).20:27
Neo31yep, I wanted to see if there are some requested apps that are not developed yet20:27
Neo31good :)20:28
nOStahlhi all20:28
Neo31do you know if there will be some emulator or virtual ubuntu phone soon for testing apps? (I can't afford an expensive phone for now)20:29
nOStahlthat would be neat20:29
nOStahlso I have a buddy with an older common android phone20:34
nOStahlwhat all will he have to do to install ubuntu phone on it20:34
LazowikI'd depend on xda guys20:36
Neo31as I know ubuntu is only supported on the galaxy nexus device for now20:36
nOStahlthought the key was, if there are android drivers for your device then ubuntu for phones works on it20:36
Neo31you are on your own for other devices, but they also say it is compatible with android drivers (which is the hardest thing to work on for xda guys)20:36
Neo31yep that's it nOStahl20:37
LazowikI think that the next thing might be screen size20:38
LazowikUI will be probably suited to Nexus20:39
Neo31and cpu + ram20:39
nOStahlhow much are nexus phones going for now20:39
Neo31high cpu+ram is required to be able to switch to desktop on the same device20:39
Lazowikremember you want galaxy nexus, *not* nexus 420:40
Lazowikgsm20:40
nOStahlI'm very excited20:40
Neo31have a look on ebay nOStahl you can find cheaper ones20:41
nOStahl160ish20:41
nOStahlnot bad20:41
nOStahlis ubuntu for phone finally a good phone for IT guys who manage servers on the go lol20:42
nOStahliPhone minority works lol20:42
Neo31it is absolutely20:42
nOStahla real terminal on my phone? :)20:42
Lazowikyou get terminal out of box20:42
Neo31I am currently a sys and network admin20:42
nOStahlnow if only I could install it on my iPhone 520:43
Neo31there is nothing better than a native linux phone :)20:43
nOStahli do like this iPhone feel20:43
nOStahlwill we see netflix on ubuntu phone21:05
Neo31i think that depends on netflix!21:08
nOStahlI sure hope we will21:13
nOStahlwhat drm did they use for android phones?21:13
Sinan___I want ubuntu phone for my note 2 :)21:44
Sinan___With Samsung smart dock, it'll be an awesome pocket computer21:45
nOStahlso how long till we see ubuntu for tablets22:14
nOStahlSinan___: that'd be pretty cool with a dock22:15
nOStahlSinan___: i'd like a laptop dock device just keyboard and monitor etc and maybe a battery22:15
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