[05:53] hola [05:54] I was just courious if there was anymore of an eta for the galaxy nexus image === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === Lexmazter is now known as Lexmazter|away [11:44] Is there a release date for Ubuntu phone? Something I couple put on a phone and see it with my own eyes? === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI [13:20] hi tarelerulz, this should help with your question: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPhone === Lexmazter is now known as Lexmazter|study [14:20] wtb ubuntu phone for nexus 4 : \ === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle === Mirv_ is now known as Mirv === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [17:29] Yo, any Weather App people here? [17:31] Hi Kevin [17:31] melnaquib: Hey hey, how are you [17:31] H Kevin [17:31] m-b-o: hi [17:31] fine, we still missing 2 ppl I guess [17:32] Hi guys [17:32] Jakub: hello [17:32] that's 3 [17:32] now 1, hi Yakub [17:32] now 1, hi Jakub* [17:32] Yes Kevin, hello. [17:33] m-b-o, Jakub, melnaquib, ToMfromTO: Hi all [17:33] m-b-o, Jakub, melnaquib, ToMfromTO: Did you all get a chance to look at the wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPhone/CoreApps/Weather [17:34] hi everyone! [17:34] I did [17:34] yes [17:34] rustino: hi [17:34] hi Kevin [17:34] yes [17:35] Were there any specific questions or comments that come to mind? [17:35] It doesn't have a lot of detail so we should fill in the gaps [17:36] Example, are the user stories valid / complete? [17:36] Any comments about those? [17:36] Something to add? [17:36] I want to add more than one location [17:36] Good idea [17:37] Anything else anyone? [17:37] should there be charts? [17:37] Maybe [17:37] If we can do it, why not! [17:37] I think one of the weather apps I looked at does the same [17:38] It shows by the hour change in temp. [17:38] charts in my opinion is must to be [17:38] What other kind of charts? [17:38] i really like new.meteo.pl weather from Warsaw University [17:38] charts that soan a week/month of daily temperature [17:39] That's a good idea [17:39] charts of temperature, humidity and cloud (if available) [17:39] or just symbols for sunny/cloudy/foggy/snow/etc [17:39] BTW, we need a data source [17:39] The wiki suggests some possible sources [17:40] But maybe we need to look for more [17:40] I don't think that charts are an essential part of the application. [17:40] Some simple ones at first might be good [17:40] in later phase, i'd suggest accepting plugins for data sources [17:40] You mean more than one source of data? e.g. to swap between different sources? [17:40] a file with xpath, something similar [17:41] So at first we need to choose one good one [17:41] Current weather information and a week forecast is enough for me. [17:41] "to swap between different sources?" yes, and allow user to download a "plugin file" that would naturally come from store later [17:42] I guess we would need to look into that later, but it is a good idea [17:42] Yes the current weather is a must have [17:42] And 5 to 7 day forecast for sure [17:42] What about hourly? [17:43] as a second/detail view perhaps? [17:43] hourly? haven't run into that before [17:43] "as a second/detail view perhaps?" good idea [17:43] I saw it in one app or site [17:43] Yes, it was secondary [17:43] I'm using hour weather forcast from Warsaw University. They have so good model that it's really great thing to have [17:44] but unfortunately they told me that no API is available [17:44] Ah too bad [17:44] We need a good API for sure [17:44] The one here looks good: http://api.yr.no/weatherapi/documentation [17:45] information about sunset/moonset sunrise/moonrise [17:45] another api: http://www.weather.com/services/xmloap.html [17:45] But not sure if it covers all use cases [17:45] rustino: that would be good [17:46] So the priority seems to be current weather, 5-7 day forecast, and maybe hourly [17:46] Should or could have might be some additional detail such as humidity, sunset etc. [17:46] should i query a location without stting it? [17:47] like, see how is now in Berlin, without saving the city location [17:47] wunderground has some interesting api [17:47] http://www.wunderground.com/weather/api/ [17:48] melnaquib: so you mean the user switching a city [17:48] I think the most important are temperature, level of rain and cloudiness [17:48] rustino: does it look easy to use? [17:48] but has some limitation for free use [17:48] ah too bad [17:48] Wat kind of limitation [17:48] wat == what [17:49] Jakub: agreed [17:49] http://www.wunderground.com/weather/api/d/pricing.html [17:49] 500 calls/day 10 all/minute [17:49] We should find a free source [17:49] If that determines the limitations on functionality that's OK [17:50] only 3 days forecast [17:50] 3 days isn't so bad [17:50] http://openweathermap.org/ [17:50] still beta, but promising [17:51] might be good enough [17:51] OK, maybe the first action point is to collect all the different possible sources of data we can find and compare them [17:51] How does that sound [17:52] great idea [17:52] Should all of us give it a try or only a couple of us [17:52] :Kevin, sounds ok, give us a time limit for searching it [17:52] If we all take 1 or 2 days at our leisure it could be enough [17:53] Just a small amount of time to search should be OK [17:53] We already have some good suggestions [17:53] Maybe we will have some duplicate suggestions, but that is OK [17:54] It will confirm the better selections [17:54] How does that sound [17:54] great [17:54] great [17:54] okay [17:55] ok [17:56] ToMfromTO: how does that sound [17:57] OK, where should we collect the information? [17:57] Just share it by email at first? [17:57] Sound's just fine, I've found some other sources: http://blog.programmableweb.com/2012/01/11/12-json-weather-apis/ [17:57] Cool [17:57] Once we know the API we are dealing with then we can start some coding and creating more specific action items for the back end [17:58] trello works great for brainstorming [17:58] usererror: nice suggestion [17:58] tym [17:58] basecamp is great is someone has a payed account [17:59] never checked it out but I will [17:59] *if [17:59] Let's start with a couple of emails and look at trello at the same time [17:59] Alright I think we have the start of a plan [18:00] How about we sync up again on Wednesday everyone? [18:00] would be okay for me [18:00] good for me [18:00] Good luck to ya guys, glad I could offer useful input - Looking forward to learning from your project (and using it!) [18:01] Accuweather has many positive votes on Android Market. Maybe we should also look in that direction...? [18:01] usererror: thanks again for the suggestion [18:01] Jakub: let's check the features [18:01] feel free to PM me any time if you want someone to brainstorm with or just have a random issue.. [18:01] wednesday is fine with me [18:01] PM or Highlight ** [18:02] Alright Weather App people, thanks for meeting up...ttyl! [18:02] bye evrybody [18:03] cu! [18:03] thanks, buy [18:03] bye;) [18:05] Thanks Kevin, bye [18:05] Hevin are You still there? === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] [18:10] wed is ok for me [18:10] tnx everyone! [18:10] bye bye [18:31] hi phonies [20:20] hello folks, can someone provide a mailing list for ubuntu phone please ? [20:21] I am also interested in contributing to the project, is there something I can help with !? [20:24] as for now you can download SDK and write apps [20:25] you can find the list at launchpad [20:25] yes Lazowik , I am aware of that. any todo list or other things I can help with please ? [20:25] ok [20:25] and only there you can subscribe, by joining the group [20:26] as far as I know you can help with development of the core apps [20:26] done [20:26] good :) [20:26] they will be preintalled [20:26] thanks for help Lazowik [20:26] no problem ;) [20:27] Neo31: You can always develop other apps too. [20:27] Neo31: I've been working on a couple that I will make available for the phone once I've had a chance to test them myself (once the phone image is released). [20:27] yep, I wanted to see if there are some requested apps that are not developed yet [20:28] good :) [20:28] hi all [20:29] do you know if there will be some emulator or virtual ubuntu phone soon for testing apps? (I can't afford an expensive phone for now) [20:29] that would be neat [20:34] so I have a buddy with an older common android phone [20:34] what all will he have to do to install ubuntu phone on it [20:36] I'd depend on xda guys [20:36] as I know ubuntu is only supported on the galaxy nexus device for now [20:36] thought the key was, if there are android drivers for your device then ubuntu for phones works on it [20:36] you are on your own for other devices, but they also say it is compatible with android drivers (which is the hardest thing to work on for xda guys) [20:37] yep that's it nOStahl [20:38] I think that the next thing might be screen size [20:39] UI will be probably suited to Nexus [20:39] and cpu + ram [20:39] how much are nexus phones going for now [20:39] high cpu+ram is required to be able to switch to desktop on the same device [20:40] remember you want galaxy nexus, *not* nexus 4 [20:40] gsm [20:40] I'm very excited [20:41] have a look on ebay nOStahl you can find cheaper ones [20:41] 160ish [20:41] not bad [20:42] is ubuntu for phone finally a good phone for IT guys who manage servers on the go lol [20:42] iPhone minority works lol [20:42] it is absolutely [20:42] a real terminal on my phone? :) [20:42] you get terminal out of box [20:42] I am currently a sys and network admin [20:43] now if only I could install it on my iPhone 5 [20:43] there is nothing better than a native linux phone :) [20:43] i do like this iPhone feel [21:05] will we see netflix on ubuntu phone [21:08] i think that depends on netflix! [21:13] I sure hope we will [21:13] what drm did they use for android phones? [21:44] I want ubuntu phone for my note 2 :) [21:45] With Samsung smart dock, it'll be an awesome pocket computer [22:14] so how long till we see ubuntu for tablets [22:15] Sinan___: that'd be pretty cool with a dock [22:15] Sinan___: i'd like a laptop dock device just keyboard and monitor etc and maybe a battery === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam