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balloonslooks like you guys had fun in here! I was away from my pc all weekend.. and it' s off to sleep for me now.. However, I can pop in to say hello if anyone is awake :-)02:36
balloonsso, hello :-)02:36
pleia2hello :)02:37
balloonshey pleia2! everything go ok.. I really wanted to be around for the sessions yesterday, but I didn't have a pc yesterday02:37
pleia2yep, all went well except vbox being difficult (postponed that specific session)02:38
balloonsahh.. I saw some emails about that :-(02:38
thomiballoons: you around?03:55
thomiI guess not - it being stupid'o'clock in the states03:55
smartboyhwthomi, balloons should appear around 10 hours later04:01
thomismartboyhw: yeah, it'll be "tomorrow" for me by then - I'll email him instead04:02
thomifor anyone else that cares, I've just pushed a branch that makes the 'autopilot vis' tool usable again \o/04:02
thomishould be in the PPA shortly04:02
pittiGood morning07:05
JoseeAntonioRhello, pitti :)07:42
pittihey JoseeAntonioR07:44
JoseeAntonioRhow's it going?07:44
pittiquite fine, thanks! how about yourself?07:45
JoseeAntonioRI'm pretty good, just a bit tired07:45
dholbachgood morning07:51
jibelgood morning07:55
pittibonjour jibel07:57
jibelHey pitti07:58
dholbachthe unstoppable vibhav added a few more autopkgtest I see :)08:34
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vibhavdholbach: hehe13:17
* vibhav writes test for libnfs13:22
vibhavlibfirestring*13:36
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smartboyhwballoons, PING15:29
pittijibel: hm, I tried to tell jhbuild to rebuild clutter/mutter several times now by modifying their ~/jhbuild-data/jhbuild.modules15:54
pittijibel: it did update the hash sum, but didn't actually rebuild; is there a better trick?15:54
jibelpitti, a direct invocation of jhbuild but then jenkins will not reflect the latest status. I'll have a look in a minute.15:56
pittijibel: I can do jbhuild buildone, but I was afraid of circumventing the housekeeping of the scripts, indeed15:56
fully_humanSo, a fix was confirmed for autopilot vis?15:57
jibelpitti, you can run jhbuild anyway, that will not hurt anything, jenkins won't even notice ;)15:57
pittijibel: right, but I do want it to notice :)15:58
pittijibel: I could perhaps go into the checkout and git reset --hard HEAD^, to force it to re-checkout?15:58
pittiI'll try that16:00
jibelyou can try that, does latest commit fixes the build failure?16:01
pittijibel: it wasn't an upstream fault, but a temporary boo-boo in our libx* packages16:02
vibhavpitti: The wayland API/ABI is still work-in-progress, right?16:07
pittivibhav: that's what I understand, yes16:07
vibhavWould it be sensible to write an autopkgtest for it?16:08
pittivibhav: GTK is using it, so it's not wasted in any case16:09
vibhavah yes16:09
jibelpitti, what time did you retry mutter by updating ~/jhbuild-data/jhbuild.modules?16:11
fully_humanthomi: How's the vis bug going?  I was actually working on it late last week, though I didn't submit a bug report.16:12
pittijibel: many times over the past days16:14
pittijibel: chuckle at "jbbuildrc" -- you do love the thing, don't you :)16:48
jibelpitti, heh, I do :)16:52
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balloonsCadence week stream going live in 10 mins: http://youtu.be/aOkbMiyJIbI17:53
=== balloons changed the topic of #ubuntu-quality to: "Welcome to Ubuntu Quality | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam | Cadence Livestream Monday @ 1800 UTC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOkbMiyJIbI | Cadence Week #6 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Cadence/Raring/Week6"
balloonseveryone awake?18:02
balloonsbefore I go too deep wth this I want to make sure you can see the stream18:03
* balloons taps the mic, is this thing on/18:03
ssbobyep I see it, stream is still showing the please wait screen18:03
balloonsok, great18:03
balloonscan you see and hear?18:08
ssbobsee, no hear18:09
balloonsno hear :-(18:12
ssbobyep :)18:12
SergioMenesesballoons, \o18:14
SergioMenesesI was eating something18:14
thomiballoons: autopilot vis is fixed!18:38
balloonsdoes anyone remember how to restart alsa?18:41
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balloonswe even ended on time19:01
balloonsthomi, sweet..19:02
balloonsgood to hear19:02
balloonsI heard millings about how autopilot introspection bits are going to be in raring on a daily basis19:02
balloonsthus eliminating the need for the ppa ,or ?19:02
balloonsssbob, howdy.. Were you able to view the stream successfully?19:15
ssbobyeah although the quality was bad, made everything crazy blurry. But I figure when it gets posted up I will be able to rematch it19:16
ssbobre-watch it19:16
balloonshmm.. well it the quality is super bad,  I may have to resort to pre-recording them19:17
ssbobwhat about just doing it on google + instead of youtube? or is there a reason for youbute for the live portion?19:17
balloonsI did edit the first 8 mins out.. yes, youtube was so it could go live to everyone19:18
balloonsmm.. yea, text quality is bad19:18
ssbobhard to read, but the audio was just fine19:18
balloonsI'm not sure if it will eventually upload better than 480p19:19
balloonsI like to screencast in 1080p19:20
ssbobyeah that would be great19:20
JoseeAntonioRballoons: 480p is the best resolution youtube can give you19:22
balloonsJoseeAntonioR, :-( Yea, so kind of a bust then19:23
ssbobbummer19:23
balloonswelp, the other tutorials whch you can read cover things nicely19:23
JoseeAntonioRballoons: maybe you can record it and upload it, I could upload it to ubuntuonair if you like19:23
balloonsI'll just do a screencast short version of the cadence testing to add to it19:24
balloonsJoseeAntonioR, hmm.. yes, livestreaming a pre-recorded broadcast..19:24
balloonsinteresting.. since you know, you'd really just want folks to look at the original when it's done19:24
JoseeAntonioRif you give me a second I can check if we can replace the video after broadcasted19:25
balloonsJoseeAntonioR, ty19:25
balloonsNoskcaj, where's your whoarewe page again19:25
balloonsI've got to get that linked19:25
Noskcajhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/WhoWeAre19:26
balloonsohh19:26
balloonswhoweare19:26
balloonssneaky!19:26
JoseeAntonioRoh, looks like that can'e be done19:27
balloonsJoseeAntonioR, well, thanks for taking a look19:27
JoseeAntonioRnp19:27
thomiballoons: sorry for the delay - balloonsyes, the introspection bits are now in raring19:27
balloonsperhaps we'll just have hangouts.. and for the instructional pieces, do screencasts19:27
thomireleased daily too!19:27
balloons:-)19:27
balloonsssbob, so quality aside, is the video worth leaving up then.. did it help you?19:28
balloonshowdy chilicuil19:29
ssbobyeah, for me I learn quickest by seeing it done19:29
chilicuilhi balloons, good afternoon! =)19:30
balloonsk, I'll leave it up19:31
balloonsand just do screencasts for now.. perhaps we can do hangouts during cadence weeks which don't need the video quality19:31
balloonschilicuil, afternoon to you as well19:31
balloonsI made abug for you today19:31
balloonslaunchpad.net/bugs/112229319:32
balloonsbug 112229319:32
ubot5bug 1122293 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Nautilus testcase needs clarified" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112229319:32
balloonswow too good ubot19:32
chilicuilballoons: yep, we're only 1 hour defaced, ok, I'll look at it now, today my afternoon is free19:33
balloonsit's a minor detail.. but it was neat, since I could show how people could give feedback easily19:33
balloonsso ty for the setup :-)19:34
chilicuilballoons: wow, then I think we'll see videos about how to contribute to the testcases in lp very soon =)19:35
balloonsyes.. it's on the list to screencast.. basically all the writeups on the wiki are going to video19:36
balloonsman.. the low quality thing is weird too.. I mean look at my old video. even at 480p: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLyCE5e0nxE19:37
balloonsyou can read it easily19:37
ssbobyeah quality is way better on that one, weird that same res shows up so differently19:40
chilicuilballoons: I'll use a little bit of zoom there, just to make it even easier, and for screencasting the console, gnome-terminal with bigger letters or shell in box to get the terminal in firefox too, I used for this: http://www.youtube.com/ugjmexico and it works ok19:41
jibelstgraber, balloons do you need help testing ltsp for 12.04.2?19:48
stgraberI'll take care of it for Edubuntu but I don't mind someone doing it for the alternate19:49
balloonsjibel, that would be great19:53
balloonshello Letozaf_ , fully_human19:59
Letozaf_Hi balloons19:59
fully_humanOh, hey Letozaf_ .19:59
Letozaf_fully_human, hey19:59
fully_humanHey, balloons , I mean.19:59
balloons:-p19:59
SergioMeneseshi guys20:00
Letozaf_Hey SergioMeneses20:00
* SergioMeneses is back20:00
balloonshey everyone..20:01
balloonslots of stuff to test this week.. everyone ready?20:01
SergioMenesesballoons, Letozaf_ we have logs of our testing sessions available, right?20:01
SergioMenesesballoons, of course! ;)20:02
balloonsyes.. ohh, I wanted to ask SergioMeneses  and Letozaf_ if you could put together/migrate/link to the tutorial for hw testing20:02
balloonsfrom here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/QATracker20:02
thomiballoons: regarding the autopilot PPA - we don't currently have the Qt5 packages in raring, so we can't release autopilot-qt introspection plugins in raring.... so if you're doing At application tests, better leave the PPA enabled for the time being20:02
thomiballoons: shouldn't be more than a week or so until we fix that though20:03
balloonsthomi, gotcha.. I20:03
balloonsI'd just be curious if there will be a non-needed ppa point or not.. I'm leaving mine on20:03
chilicuilhi SergioMeneses o/20:04
balloonsI know there is a tutorial here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures20:05
balloonsin general, I'd like to clean up that area of the wiki and get it integreated nicely20:05
balloonsit's still using the old header for instance20:05
balloonsI think the content from your sessions can be used to help augment and get it nicely tidied20:06
SergioMenesesballoons, sounds good... maybe we all can work together for this, this week Im going to work on the UF wiki page ( cprofitt ) so, I can do something on our own wiki20:08
balloonsI just want to make sure the work you all did for the session ends up in some form on the wiki too.. so it's preserved20:09
balloonsand of course, I'd like to get a screencast and text walkthrough of doing it20:09
balloonsas things get sorted out, we'll work on those20:09
Letozaf_balloons, SergioMeneses I'm not very good in wiki work, I mean I can do something, but I'm not an expert, so maybe SergioMeneses can do it, if he needs I can help and learn20:11
fully_humanSince I'm new, could I hop on board with the wiki?20:12
balloonsfully_human, of course@20:12
balloonsfully_human, the wiki is open -- I'm not sure of the best way to represent our 'docs' needs persay20:13
balloonsalmost need a bug tracker for it, haha20:13
ssbobballoons, I run a mac at home and can test the mac versions of the iso's if that is helpful at all.20:14
ssbobusing virtual box of course20:14
balloonsssbob, ohh.. sweet, yea, amd64+mac always could use help20:14
SergioMenesesLetozaf_, dony worry I can teach you something about wikis ;)20:14
ssbobgreat20:14
balloonsssbob, ahh.. the intent with those would be on real hw20:14
fully_humanWhat exactly is going on with the wiki, though? I read the conversation above, but was there a previous conversation.20:14
balloonsohh, well recently Letozaf_ and SergioMeneses and prime2h gave a session on the laptop tracke20:15
balloonsthere is a section the wiki on it; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop20:15
SergioMenesesballoons, Letozaf_ fully_human all you can need is here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide20:15
balloonshowever, it needs updated with the content they covered and pulled into the main QATeam wiki a bit better as well20:16
ssbobhmm I can test it out, have never installed anything other than mac os  (and windows w/ bootcamp).20:16
balloonshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam20:16
balloonsssbob, ahh.. well, depending on the version of mac, it's not always easy to mess with them20:16
ssbobthat is what time machine is for :)20:16
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, thanks for the link20:16
balloonsi have one for a time.. I really didn't care for it. however, jibel who isn't likely around at the moment, has good mac+ ubuntu experience20:16
balloonsif your interested, he can help out.. as can a few others.. posting on the list works too and see who chimes back20:17
ssbobthen perhaps I will stick to regular ubuntu in a VM for testing20:17
balloonsI'd recommend it at first20:17
balloonsthen branch into real hw installs20:17
balloonsthen tackle the mac :-)20:17
ssbobseems reasonable20:17
balloonssteeping stones20:17
SergioMenesesLetozaf_, dont worry ;)20:20
balloonsso fully_human the wiki is open, provided you have a ubuntu sso20:20
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, ok :D20:20
SergioMenesesballoons, and launchpad account20:22
Letozaf_balloons, I have 12.04 installed on a partition of my PC, I was thinking of trying an upgrade, but there is no upgrade testcase in the iso tracker this turn, do you need an upgrade test or should I just try reinstalling ?20:26
balloonsLetozaf_, someone else mentioned that and I mean to take it up20:26
Letozaf_balloons, ok, so I will wait for it20:27
balloonsI could add it easily enough.. I'm pinging the release team about why it's not there20:28
balloonsI didn't setup the milestone20:28
SergioMenesesok guys I have to go for a while, I'll be back soon20:28
SergioMenesesbtw before I leave, balloons I think we can put all logs together like the user day wiki does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays20:30
SergioMenesesLetozaf_, phillw ↑↑↑20:30
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, yes looks good :D20:31
balloonsLetozaf_, I'm adding the upgrade stuff now20:31
Letozaf_balloons, ok thanks20:31
SergioMenesesLetozaf_, but we have to re-edit our wiki ;) make it more friendly20:31
SergioMenesesballoons, great!20:31
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, oh well I hope you know what you're doing, I'm just following you :D20:32
SergioMeneses:O20:32
Letozaf_balloons, do you know if anyone encountered this bug:20:33
Letozaf_I had it several times on ARM20:33
Letozaf_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/112216220:33
ubot5Launchpad bug 1122162 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "cannot enter personal information on ubiquity's "Who are you" screen" [Undecided,New]20:33
Letozaf_balloons, and also this one:http://launchpad.net/bugs/108909020:34
ubot5Launchpad bug 1089090 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Partitioning does not work correctly during install of Raring ARM" [Undecided,New]20:34
balloonsLetozaf_, I was actually going to fire up arm this week and try it out20:36
balloonsso, I'll let you know20:36
balloonslet me sub to these so I don't lose them20:36
Letozaf_balloons, the first one doesn't always occur, but it has occured serval times now so I decided to open a bug20:37
SergioMenesescprofitt, ping20:41
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Letozaf_balloons, by the way the upgrade stuff isn't there yet, I can see it in the left pane but not in the right one where the testcases are...20:44
balloonsLetozaf_, yes, I know20:45
Letozaf_balloons, ah ok sorry :D!20:45
balloonsI found a bigger issue.. I missed the fact these tests are pointing at the old stuff20:45
balloonsbecause historically precise was tested using it, so it was neve rupdated20:45
balloonstrying to see if we can get the new tests in there without breaking the history.. that's the trouble20:46
Letozaf_balloons, I'm not in a hurry :D I can wait!20:46
SergioMenesessome around? I need an opinion20:58
ssbobI don't know anything but can try to answer it :)20:58
SergioMenesesssbob, dont worry you can help me :D20:59
SergioMenesesssbob, can you open this link? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioMeneses/sandbox/UF20:59
SergioMenesesdo you see anything wrong?20:59
ssboblooks pretty21:00
SergioMenesesssbob, ok21:00
SergioMenesesso, the design works21:01
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, the "project" link points to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hhttps%3A//launchpad.net/ubuntu-friendly21:01
SergioMenesesLetozaf_, dont worry21:01
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, :D21:01
SergioMenesesIm working on design first, it is the hard part21:01
SergioMenesesLetozaf_, do you see it well?21:02
SergioMenesesonly design21:02
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, well looks good, but I'm not an expert as I said, I mean do not know if you guys have a standard to keep to21:02
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, sorry I meant to comply with21:04
ssbobSergio - site looks good, links work, renders fine (i.e. no funny characters, or misalignment)21:04
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, yes looks good both on Firefox and Chromium21:05
SergioMenesesLetozaf_, all link works now, I fixed it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioMeneses/sandbox/UF21:05
SergioMenesesLetozaf_, ssbob thanks a lot for you help21:05
ssbobnp glad to be of assistance21:06
SergioMenesesbtw the old wiki page is working as usual https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFriendly21:06
roadmrcprofitt: hello, do you have a moment to look at this UF-related bit? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1637589/21:07
SergioMenesesroadmr, \o21:07
roadmrSergioMeneses: hey! I welcome any comments on that21:08
SergioMenesesroadmr, sure! just give me a moment, Im still working on our wiki page21:08
balloonsLetozaf_, well the upgrade stuff is on now21:12
balloonsI'm a bit saddened by the legacy testcase stuff.. we sadly can't change it21:12
Letozaf_balloons, doesn't matter :D we will use it as it is :D21:14
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chilicuilSergioMeneses: I'll change the icons for some of here: http://design.ubuntu.com/brand/pictograms , match the colors in both menu's, the one who has (site, process..) and (next meeting..) and centralize the UF banner21:28
SergioMeneseschilicuil, sure! here are the icons http://design.ubuntu.com/downloads?metadata=element-pictogram  Im working on it21:32
SergioMeneseschilicuil, look http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/unusual/ubuntu-pictograms21:40
* balloons says ooooo!21:41
ssbobtest case question, if a step called for in a particular test case does not actually work (i.e. install some package that does not exist) do I stop with the test case? sorry about the noob question fellas.21:42
chilicuilSergioMeneses: I like the pizza bash, they're pretty good actually21:44
SergioMenesesssbob,21:44
SergioMenesesdont worry I had the same question, you can add a note/comment about it21:45
ssbobunderstood, thanks SergioMeneses21:45
chilicuilssbob: I'd say yes, and I'd open a bug against ubuntu or against the testcase-manual project to fix the one with the mistake21:46
ssbobgot it, yeah I actually continued reading the walkthrough and realized if I had RTFM'd the page I would have found the answer myself.21:47
SergioMenesesI think ssbob you can see this example http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/251/builds/34454/testcases/1336/results21:48
balloonsssbob, yes, just let us know.. bugs can exist in testcases too.. but we do try hard to not have them happen :-)22:24
ssbobright, yes I realize that. I am trying to file a bug and then submit the failed test but the link to the bug instructions (http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/buginstructions) just puts me back to the testing/cadence page (http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker). Looking at other bugs on other tests to get an idea where the bug should be filed.22:25
ssbobI figured it out and am putting in a bug for the test case.22:27
MawahebHello everyone22:38
balloonshello Mawaheb!22:38
MawahebHello balloons , i was just reading the log of your previous session ! you are really putting good efforts, thanks for that !22:39
balloonsMawaheb, your most welcome.. We want to make it easy for you to be a part :-)22:39
Mawahebam glad to be part of this community, it's late but , better than never i guess D22:40
balloonsnever too late :-)22:41
balloonsso i hope all the information wasn't too much to process22:42
balloonsI'm currently testing some images and running through the empathy tests22:42
Mawahebi wanted to ask you one thing about this22:42
balloonssure, go for it22:43
Mawahebdo i need to do the images tests ? (live sessions) even if i run ubuntu as my main OS  ?22:43
Mawahebi mean is it ok if i do the test senarios on my already installed ubuntu ? or it shoud be done using the iso images?22:45
balloonsMawaheb, is it an issue with downloading that much? You are welcome to participate in any ways you wish.. If your already running ubuntu raring, then your all set to test on installed versions22:45
balloonsjust make sure your packages are up to date22:45
balloonsin general, image/iso testing is to test the installers22:45
Mawahebaha i see,22:45
balloonsfor people who don't have a version of ubuntu development installed, they can also use it to help test..22:45
balloonsbut we like results from real installs :-)22:46
Mawaheb)22:46
Mawahebi really feel some sad that i did not join earlier , it seems that it will take me quite some time to get started, but i will do my best22:51
balloonsdon't worry.. your joining at a great time.. there's plenty to help out with, and lots of folks to meet.. you'll enjoy yourself ;-)22:52
ssbobI just started today as well Mawaheb, plenty to do :)22:52
Mawaheb:-) thanks, it makes me feel better, i think i need one more day to get used and to start working in active way, am still rading all the wikis and the logs to get familiary22:53
Mawahebgotta go now , it's quite late in here 12:55 am , see you all tomorrow :)22:55
SergioMeneseschilicuil, now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioMeneses/sandbox/UFT22:59
SergioMenesesbut I cant align the banner, {{attachment:image.png|alt text|align="position"}} doesnt work22:59
chilicuilSergioMeneses: yeah, it doesn't work, to get it in the middle I use || || || {{atta..}}||23:01
SergioMeneseschilicuil, lol23:01
SergioMeneseslike a table23:01
SergioMenesesmmm23:01
chilicuilyep SergioMeneses23:01
SergioMenesesjejeje chilicuil take a look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioMeneses/sandbox/UFT23:06
chilicuilit look better in my opinion SergioMeneses =)23:08
ssbobI like the icons better23:08
SergioMenesessure23:08
ssbobGr33nD@y23:09
ssbobsorry ignore that ;(23:09
balloonsssbob, happens to all of us :-)23:09
SergioMenesesssbob, jejeje23:10
SergioMenesesballoons, is right23:10
SergioMeneseschilicuil, ssbob I'll keep both https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioMeneses/sandbox/UF23:10
balloonsssbob, you still about?23:17
ssbobyep23:17
balloonsI finished my empathy testcases, had a fun bug  had to get reported23:17
balloonsanyways, I saw your bug report.. the irc piece worked for me23:18
balloonsI was able to install that packaged23:18
balloonslet's go take a look23:19
ssbobhmm let me try that again23:19
balloonshttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=account-plugin-irc&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all23:19
balloonsshows as being in since quantal, but does require universe23:19
balloonshmm.. is universe enabled in the live session23:20
balloonsmight not be23:20
ssbobhmm I wonder if it was because I was on the live cd and not a full install23:20
balloonsprobably just main23:20
ssbobthat would be my guess23:20
ssbobso that explains why I could not find it, as I can now on a full install23:20
balloonsif you run 'software sources' you can turn on universe and multi-verse23:21
balloonseven in the live session23:21
balloonsso, regardless, best to update the case with that info23:21
ssbobok that makes sense, what should I do now? Update the bug and then results?23:21
ssbobyep will do23:21
balloonsyea, comment on the bug.. i'll confirm it23:21
balloonswe'll update the case23:22
SergioMenesesMay I help you guys with the bug? balloons ssbob23:23
balloonshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/112248423:24
ubot5Launchpad bug 1122484 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Empathy test case needs clarification" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:24
ssbobI put a comment about resolution in the bug, will update the test case when I run through the steps23:25
SergioMeneseslets see23:25
SergioMenesesssbob, but is it fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1122484/comments/223:26
ubot5Launchpad bug 1122484 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Empathy test case needs clarification" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:26
ssbobyes it is23:27
ssbobso would that be "invalid" then? or is this something that someone else has to change?23:28
chilicuilssbob: the description of the testcase should be improved, that was my fault, I'm updating it right now, thanks a lot for your report =)23:29
ssbobyour welcome, I should have known to check the sources on a live install. Since I typically don't use it, the thought did not occur to me.23:30
SergioMeneseschilicuil, I think you should comment the bug too23:31
SergioMenesesbut I dont think it is invalid, do you balloons chilicuil ?23:32
chilicuilSergioMeneses: I think it's valid as well, I'll comment it as soon as I get the merge proposed ready, in 5 min probably23:33
SergioMeneseschilicuil, perfect, I have changed the importance to "Low", I think is the best23:37
chilicuilSergioMeneses: cool23:37
SergioMenesesbtw ssbob or chilicuil  do you have the testcase link?23:38
ssbobhttp://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/256/builds/37167/testcases/1415/results23:39
balloonsyes, I think it's valid, just something to note if we're asking folks to install something.. note the repo it's in (just in case! they fdon't have universe multiverse)23:39
chilicuilballoons: Hi, do you think that for bug #1122293 is enough to add to the testcase, "Please ensure you have the 'multiverse' repository enabled (nod by default in live session)", or do you think I should provide instrucciontions to enable it?23:39
ubot5bug 1122293 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Nautilus testcase needs clarified" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112229323:39
balloonschilicuil, I think it's safe to say make sure you have universe and multiverse enabled (off by default in live session)23:40
chilicuilballoons: got it23:40
balloonsI'm wondering though.. should we update the generic instructions for people who might be running things in a  live sessioj23:40
balloonsinstead of the testcase23:40
ssbobboth perhaps, in case one was missed23:41
balloonsfor now let's make those changes.. something to think about23:41
ssbobthis way you stop getting bugs for silly mistakes from new testers ;)23:41
chilicuilballoons: yeah, it would be even better, a note in the iso tracker that say 'Please ensure to enable the universe | multiverse repositories'23:42
SergioMenesesballoons, rocks! I think is the best solution as well23:44

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