[02:36] <balloons> looks like you guys had fun in here! I was away from my pc all weekend.. and it' s off to sleep for me now.. However, I can pop in to say hello if anyone is awake :-)
[02:36] <balloons> so, hello :-)
[02:37] <pleia2> hello :)
[02:37] <balloons> hey pleia2! everything go ok.. I really wanted to be around for the sessions yesterday, but I didn't have a pc yesterday
[02:38] <pleia2> yep, all went well except vbox being difficult (postponed that specific session)
[02:38] <balloons> ahh.. I saw some emails about that :-(
[03:55] <thomi> balloons: you around?
[03:55] <thomi> I guess not - it being stupid'o'clock in the states
[04:01] <smartboyhw> thomi, balloons should appear around 10 hours later
[04:02] <thomi> smartboyhw: yeah, it'll be "tomorrow" for me by then - I'll email him instead
[04:02] <thomi> for anyone else that cares, I've just pushed a branch that makes the 'autopilot vis' tool usable again \o/
[04:02] <thomi> should be in the PPA shortly
[07:05] <pitti> Good morning
[07:42] <JoseeAntonioR> hello, pitti :)
[07:44] <pitti> hey JoseeAntonioR
[07:44] <JoseeAntonioR> how's it going?
[07:45] <pitti> quite fine, thanks! how about yourself?
[07:45] <JoseeAntonioR> I'm pretty good, just a bit tired
[07:51] <dholbach> good morning
[07:55] <jibel> good morning
[07:57] <pitti> bonjour jibel
[07:58] <jibel> Hey pitti
[08:34] <dholbach> the unstoppable vibhav added a few more autopkgtest I see :)
[13:17] <vibhav> dholbach: hehe
[13:22]  * vibhav writes test for libnfs
[13:36] <vibhav> libfirestring*
[15:29] <smartboyhw> balloons, PING
[15:54] <pitti> jibel: hm, I tried to tell jhbuild to rebuild clutter/mutter several times now by modifying their ~/jhbuild-data/jhbuild.modules
[15:54] <pitti> jibel: it did update the hash sum, but didn't actually rebuild; is there a better trick?
[15:56] <jibel> pitti, a direct invocation of jhbuild but then jenkins will not reflect the latest status. I'll have a look in a minute.
[15:56] <pitti> jibel: I can do jbhuild buildone, but I was afraid of circumventing the housekeeping of the scripts, indeed
[15:57] <fully_human> So, a fix was confirmed for autopilot vis?
[15:57] <jibel> pitti, you can run jhbuild anyway, that will not hurt anything, jenkins won't even notice ;)
[15:58] <pitti> jibel: right, but I do want it to notice :)
[15:58] <pitti> jibel: I could perhaps go into the checkout and git reset --hard HEAD^, to force it to re-checkout?
[16:00] <pitti> I'll try that
[16:01] <jibel> you can try that, does latest commit fixes the build failure?
[16:02] <pitti> jibel: it wasn't an upstream fault, but a temporary boo-boo in our libx* packages
[16:07] <vibhav> pitti: The wayland API/ABI is still work-in-progress, right?
[16:07] <pitti> vibhav: that's what I understand, yes
[16:08] <vibhav> Would it be sensible to write an autopkgtest for it?
[16:09] <pitti> vibhav: GTK is using it, so it's not wasted in any case
[16:09] <vibhav> ah yes
[16:11] <jibel> pitti, what time did you retry mutter by updating ~/jhbuild-data/jhbuild.modules?
[16:12] <fully_human> thomi: How's the vis bug going?  I was actually working on it late last week, though I didn't submit a bug report.
[16:14] <pitti> jibel: many times over the past days
[16:48] <pitti> jibel: chuckle at "jbbuildrc" -- you do love the thing, don't you :)
[16:52] <jibel> pitti, heh, I do :)
[17:53] <balloons> Cadence week stream going live in 10 mins: http://youtu.be/aOkbMiyJIbI
[18:02] <balloons> everyone awake?
[18:03] <balloons> before I go too deep wth this I want to make sure you can see the stream
[18:03]  * balloons taps the mic, is this thing on/
[18:03] <ssbob> yep I see it, stream is still showing the please wait screen
[18:03] <balloons> ok, great
[18:08] <balloons> can you see and hear?
[18:09] <ssbob> see, no hear
[18:12] <balloons> no hear :-(
[18:12] <ssbob> yep :)
[18:14] <SergioMeneses> balloons, \o
[18:14] <SergioMeneses> I was eating something
[18:38] <thomi> balloons: autopilot vis is fixed!
[18:41] <balloons> does anyone remember how to restart alsa?
[19:01] <balloons> we even ended on time
[19:02] <balloons> thomi, sweet..
[19:02] <balloons> good to hear
[19:02] <balloons> I heard millings about how autopilot introspection bits are going to be in raring on a daily basis
[19:02] <balloons> thus eliminating the need for the ppa ,or ?
[19:15] <balloons> ssbob, howdy.. Were you able to view the stream successfully?
[19:16] <ssbob> yeah although the quality was bad, made everything crazy blurry. But I figure when it gets posted up I will be able to rematch it
[19:16] <ssbob> re-watch it
[19:17] <balloons> hmm.. well it the quality is super bad,  I may have to resort to pre-recording them
[19:17] <ssbob> what about just doing it on google + instead of youtube? or is there a reason for youbute for the live portion?
[19:18] <balloons> I did edit the first 8 mins out.. yes, youtube was so it could go live to everyone
[19:18] <balloons> mm.. yea, text quality is bad
[19:18] <ssbob> hard to read, but the audio was just fine
[19:19] <balloons> I'm not sure if it will eventually upload better than 480p
[19:20] <balloons> I like to screencast in 1080p
[19:20] <ssbob> yeah that would be great
[19:22] <JoseeAntonioR> balloons: 480p is the best resolution youtube can give you
[19:23] <balloons> JoseeAntonioR, :-( Yea, so kind of a bust then
[19:23] <ssbob> bummer
[19:23] <balloons> welp, the other tutorials whch you can read cover things nicely
[19:23] <JoseeAntonioR> balloons: maybe you can record it and upload it, I could upload it to ubuntuonair if you like
[19:24] <balloons> I'll just do a screencast short version of the cadence testing to add to it
[19:24] <balloons> JoseeAntonioR, hmm.. yes, livestreaming a pre-recorded broadcast..
[19:24] <balloons> interesting.. since you know, you'd really just want folks to look at the original when it's done
[19:25] <JoseeAntonioR> if you give me a second I can check if we can replace the video after broadcasted
[19:25] <balloons> JoseeAntonioR, ty
[19:25] <balloons> Noskcaj, where's your whoarewe page again
[19:25] <balloons> I've got to get that linked
[19:26] <Noskcaj> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/WhoWeAre
[19:26] <balloons> ohh
[19:26] <balloons> whoweare
[19:26] <balloons> sneaky!
[19:27] <JoseeAntonioR> oh, looks like that can'e be done
[19:27] <balloons> JoseeAntonioR, well, thanks for taking a look
[19:27] <JoseeAntonioR> np
[19:27] <thomi> balloons: sorry for the delay - balloonsyes, the introspection bits are now in raring
[19:27] <balloons> perhaps we'll just have hangouts.. and for the instructional pieces, do screencasts
[19:27] <thomi> released daily too!
[19:27] <balloons> :-)
[19:28] <balloons> ssbob, so quality aside, is the video worth leaving up then.. did it help you?
[19:29] <balloons> howdy chilicuil
[19:29] <ssbob> yeah, for me I learn quickest by seeing it done
[19:30] <chilicuil> hi balloons, good afternoon! =)
[19:31] <balloons> k, I'll leave it up
[19:31] <balloons> and just do screencasts for now.. perhaps we can do hangouts during cadence weeks which don't need the video quality
[19:31] <balloons> chilicuil, afternoon to you as well
[19:31] <balloons> I made abug for you today
[19:32] <balloons> launchpad.net/bugs/1122293
[19:32] <balloons> bug 1122293
[19:32] <balloons> wow too good ubot
[19:33] <chilicuil> balloons: yep, we're only 1 hour defaced, ok, I'll look at it now, today my afternoon is free
[19:33] <balloons> it's a minor detail.. but it was neat, since I could show how people could give feedback easily
[19:34] <balloons> so ty for the setup :-)
[19:35] <chilicuil> balloons: wow, then I think we'll see videos about how to contribute to the testcases in lp very soon =)
[19:36] <balloons> yes.. it's on the list to screencast.. basically all the writeups on the wiki are going to video
[19:37] <balloons> man.. the low quality thing is weird too.. I mean look at my old video. even at 480p: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLyCE5e0nxE
[19:37] <balloons> you can read it easily
[19:40] <ssbob> yeah quality is way better on that one, weird that same res shows up so differently
[19:41] <chilicuil> balloons: I'll use a little bit of zoom there, just to make it even easier, and for screencasting the console, gnome-terminal with bigger letters or shell in box to get the terminal in firefox too, I used for this: http://www.youtube.com/ugjmexico and it works ok
[19:48] <jibel> stgraber, balloons do you need help testing ltsp for 12.04.2?
[19:49] <stgraber> I'll take care of it for Edubuntu but I don't mind someone doing it for the alternate
[19:53] <balloons> jibel, that would be great
[19:59] <balloons> hello Letozaf_ , fully_human
[19:59] <Letozaf_> Hi balloons
[19:59] <fully_human> Oh, hey Letozaf_ .
[19:59] <Letozaf_> fully_human, hey
[19:59] <fully_human> Hey, balloons , I mean.
[19:59] <balloons> :-p
[20:00] <SergioMeneses> hi guys
[20:00] <Letozaf_> Hey SergioMeneses
[20:00]  * SergioMeneses is back
[20:01] <balloons> hey everyone..
[20:01] <balloons> lots of stuff to test this week.. everyone ready?
[20:01] <SergioMeneses> balloons, Letozaf_ we have logs of our testing sessions available, right?
[20:02] <SergioMeneses> balloons, of course! ;)
[20:02] <balloons> yes.. ohh, I wanted to ask SergioMeneses  and Letozaf_ if you could put together/migrate/link to the tutorial for hw testing
[20:02] <balloons> from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/QATracker
[20:02] <thomi> balloons: regarding the autopilot PPA - we don't currently have the Qt5 packages in raring, so we can't release autopilot-qt introspection plugins in raring.... so if you're doing At application tests, better leave the PPA enabled for the time being
[20:03] <thomi> balloons: shouldn't be more than a week or so until we fix that though
[20:03] <balloons> thomi, gotcha.. I
[20:03] <balloons> I'd just be curious if there will be a non-needed ppa point or not.. I'm leaving mine on
[20:04] <chilicuil> hi SergioMeneses o/
[20:05] <balloons> I know there is a tutorial here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures
[20:05] <balloons> in general, I'd like to clean up that area of the wiki and get it integreated nicely
[20:05] <balloons> it's still using the old header for instance
[20:06] <balloons> I think the content from your sessions can be used to help augment and get it nicely tidied
[20:08] <SergioMeneses> balloons, sounds good... maybe we all can work together for this, this week Im going to work on the UF wiki page ( cprofitt ) so, I can do something on our own wiki
[20:09] <balloons> I just want to make sure the work you all did for the session ends up in some form on the wiki too.. so it's preserved
[20:09] <balloons> and of course, I'd like to get a screencast and text walkthrough of doing it
[20:09] <balloons> as things get sorted out, we'll work on those
[20:11] <Letozaf_> balloons, SergioMeneses I'm not very good in wiki work, I mean I can do something, but I'm not an expert, so maybe SergioMeneses can do it, if he needs I can help and learn
[20:12] <fully_human> Since I'm new, could I hop on board with the wiki?
[20:12] <balloons> fully_human, of course@
[20:13] <balloons> fully_human, the wiki is open -- I'm not sure of the best way to represent our 'docs' needs persay
[20:13] <balloons> almost need a bug tracker for it, haha
[20:14] <ssbob> balloons, I run a mac at home and can test the mac versions of the iso's if that is helpful at all.
[20:14] <ssbob> using virtual box of course
[20:14] <balloons> ssbob, ohh.. sweet, yea, amd64+mac always could use help
[20:14] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, dony worry I can teach you something about wikis ;)
[20:14] <ssbob> great
[20:14] <balloons> ssbob, ahh.. the intent with those would be on real hw
[20:14] <fully_human> What exactly is going on with the wiki, though? I read the conversation above, but was there a previous conversation.
[20:15] <balloons> ohh, well recently Letozaf_ and SergioMeneses and prime2h gave a session on the laptop tracke
[20:15] <balloons> there is a section the wiki on it; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop
[20:15] <SergioMeneses> balloons, Letozaf_ fully_human all you can need is here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide
[20:16] <balloons> however, it needs updated with the content they covered and pulled into the main QATeam wiki a bit better as well
[20:16] <ssbob> hmm I can test it out, have never installed anything other than mac os  (and windows w/ bootcamp).
[20:16] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam
[20:16] <balloons> ssbob, ahh.. well, depending on the version of mac, it's not always easy to mess with them
[20:16] <ssbob> that is what time machine is for :)
[20:16] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, thanks for the link
[20:16] <balloons> i have one for a time.. I really didn't care for it. however, jibel who isn't likely around at the moment, has good mac+ ubuntu experience
[20:17] <balloons> if your interested, he can help out.. as can a few others.. posting on the list works too and see who chimes back
[20:17] <ssbob> then perhaps I will stick to regular ubuntu in a VM for testing
[20:17] <balloons> I'd recommend it at first
[20:17] <balloons> then branch into real hw installs
[20:17] <balloons> then tackle the mac :-)
[20:17] <ssbob> seems reasonable
[20:17] <balloons> steeping stones
[20:20] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, dont worry ;)
[20:20] <balloons> so fully_human the wiki is open, provided you have a ubuntu sso
[20:20] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, ok :D
[20:22] <SergioMeneses> balloons, and launchpad account
[20:26] <Letozaf_> balloons, I have 12.04 installed on a partition of my PC, I was thinking of trying an upgrade, but there is no upgrade testcase in the iso tracker this turn, do you need an upgrade test or should I just try reinstalling ?
[20:26] <balloons> Letozaf_, someone else mentioned that and I mean to take it up
[20:27] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok, so I will wait for it
[20:28] <balloons> I could add it easily enough.. I'm pinging the release team about why it's not there
[20:28] <balloons> I didn't setup the milestone
[20:28] <SergioMeneses> ok guys I have to go for a while, I'll be back soon
[20:30] <SergioMeneses> btw before I leave, balloons I think we can put all logs together like the user day wiki does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays
[20:30] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, phillw ↑↑↑
[20:31] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, yes looks good :D
[20:31] <balloons> Letozaf_, I'm adding the upgrade stuff now
[20:31] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok thanks
[20:31] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, but we have to re-edit our wiki ;) make it more friendly
[20:31] <SergioMeneses> balloons, great!
[20:32] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, oh well I hope you know what you're doing, I'm just following you :D
[20:32] <SergioMeneses> :O
[20:33] <Letozaf_> balloons, do you know if anyone encountered this bug:
[20:33] <Letozaf_> I had it several times on ARM
[20:33] <Letozaf_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1122162
[20:34] <Letozaf_> balloons, and also this one:http://launchpad.net/bugs/1089090
[20:36] <balloons> Letozaf_, I was actually going to fire up arm this week and try it out
[20:36] <balloons> so, I'll let you know
[20:36] <balloons> let me sub to these so I don't lose them
[20:37] <Letozaf_> balloons, the first one doesn't always occur, but it has occured serval times now so I decided to open a bug
[20:41] <SergioMeneses> cprofitt, ping
[20:44] <Letozaf_> balloons, by the way the upgrade stuff isn't there yet, I can see it in the left pane but not in the right one where the testcases are...
[20:45] <balloons> Letozaf_, yes, I know
[20:45] <Letozaf_> balloons, ah ok sorry :D!
[20:45] <balloons> I found a bigger issue.. I missed the fact these tests are pointing at the old stuff
[20:45] <balloons> because historically precise was tested using it, so it was neve rupdated
[20:46] <balloons> trying to see if we can get the new tests in there without breaking the history.. that's the trouble
[20:46] <Letozaf_> balloons, I'm not in a hurry :D I can wait!
[20:58] <SergioMeneses> some around? I need an opinion
[20:58] <ssbob> I don't know anything but can try to answer it :)
[20:59] <SergioMeneses> ssbob, dont worry you can help me :D
[20:59] <SergioMeneses> ssbob, can you open this link? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioMeneses/sandbox/UF
[20:59] <SergioMeneses> do you see anything wrong?
[21:00] <ssbob> looks pretty
[21:00] <SergioMeneses> ssbob, ok
[21:01] <SergioMeneses> so, the design works
[21:01] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, the "project" link points to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hhttps%3A//launchpad.net/ubuntu-friendly
[21:01] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, dont worry
[21:01] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, :D
[21:01] <SergioMeneses> Im working on design first, it is the hard part
[21:02] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, do you see it well?
[21:02] <SergioMeneses> only design
[21:02] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, well looks good, but I'm not an expert as I said, I mean do not know if you guys have a standard to keep to
[21:04] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, sorry I meant to comply with
[21:04] <ssbob> Sergio - site looks good, links work, renders fine (i.e. no funny characters, or misalignment)
[21:05] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, yes looks good both on Firefox and Chromium
[21:05] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, all link works now, I fixed it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioMeneses/sandbox/UF
[21:05] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, ssbob thanks a lot for you help
[21:06] <ssbob> np glad to be of assistance
[21:06] <SergioMeneses> btw the old wiki page is working as usual https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFriendly
[21:07] <roadmr> cprofitt: hello, do you have a moment to look at this UF-related bit? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1637589/
[21:07] <SergioMeneses> roadmr, \o
[21:08] <roadmr> SergioMeneses: hey! I welcome any comments on that
[21:08] <SergioMeneses> roadmr, sure! just give me a moment, Im still working on our wiki page
[21:12] <balloons> Letozaf_, well the upgrade stuff is on now
[21:12] <balloons> I'm a bit saddened by the legacy testcase stuff.. we sadly can't change it
[21:14] <Letozaf_> balloons, doesn't matter :D we will use it as it is :D
[21:19]  * letozaf___ changed PC
[21:28] <chilicuil> SergioMeneses: I'll change the icons for some of here: http://design.ubuntu.com/brand/pictograms , match the colors in both menu's, the one who has (site, process..) and (next meeting..) and centralize the UF banner
[21:32] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, sure! here are the icons http://design.ubuntu.com/downloads?metadata=element-pictogram  Im working on it
[21:40] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, look http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/unusual/ubuntu-pictograms
[21:41]  * balloons says ooooo!
[21:42] <ssbob> test case question, if a step called for in a particular test case does not actually work (i.e. install some package that does not exist) do I stop with the test case? sorry about the noob question fellas.
[21:44] <chilicuil> SergioMeneses: I like the pizza bash, they're pretty good actually
[21:44] <SergioMeneses> ssbob,
[21:45] <SergioMeneses> dont worry I had the same question, you can add a note/comment about it
[21:45] <ssbob> understood, thanks SergioMeneses
[21:46] <chilicuil> ssbob: I'd say yes, and I'd open a bug against ubuntu or against the testcase-manual project to fix the one with the mistake
[21:47] <ssbob> got it, yeah I actually continued reading the walkthrough and realized if I had RTFM'd the page I would have found the answer myself.
[21:48] <SergioMeneses> I think ssbob you can see this example http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/251/builds/34454/testcases/1336/results
[22:24] <balloons> ssbob, yes, just let us know.. bugs can exist in testcases too.. but we do try hard to not have them happen :-)
[22:25] <ssbob> right, yes I realize that. I am trying to file a bug and then submit the failed test but the link to the bug instructions (http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/buginstructions) just puts me back to the testing/cadence page (http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker). Looking at other bugs on other tests to get an idea where the bug should be filed.
[22:27] <ssbob> I figured it out and am putting in a bug for the test case.
[22:38] <Mawaheb> Hello everyone
[22:38] <balloons> hello Mawaheb!
[22:39] <Mawaheb> Hello balloons , i was just reading the log of your previous session ! you are really putting good efforts, thanks for that !
[22:39] <balloons> Mawaheb, your most welcome.. We want to make it easy for you to be a part :-)
[22:40] <Mawaheb> am glad to be part of this community, it's late but , better than never i guess D
[22:41] <balloons> never too late :-)
[22:42] <balloons> so i hope all the information wasn't too much to process
[22:42] <balloons> I'm currently testing some images and running through the empathy tests
[22:42] <Mawaheb> i wanted to ask you one thing about this
[22:43] <balloons> sure, go for it
[22:43] <Mawaheb> do i need to do the images tests ? (live sessions) even if i run ubuntu as my main OS  ?
[22:45] <Mawaheb> i mean is it ok if i do the test senarios on my already installed ubuntu ? or it shoud be done using the iso images?
[22:45] <balloons> Mawaheb, is it an issue with downloading that much? You are welcome to participate in any ways you wish.. If your already running ubuntu raring, then your all set to test on installed versions
[22:45] <balloons> just make sure your packages are up to date
[22:45] <balloons> in general, image/iso testing is to test the installers
[22:45] <Mawaheb> aha i see,
[22:45] <balloons> for people who don't have a version of ubuntu development installed, they can also use it to help test..
[22:46] <balloons> but we like results from real installs :-)
[22:46] <Mawaheb> )
[22:51] <Mawaheb> i really feel some sad that i did not join earlier , it seems that it will take me quite some time to get started, but i will do my best
[22:52] <balloons> don't worry.. your joining at a great time.. there's plenty to help out with, and lots of folks to meet.. you'll enjoy yourself ;-)
[22:52] <ssbob> I just started today as well Mawaheb, plenty to do :)
[22:53] <Mawaheb> :-) thanks, it makes me feel better, i think i need one more day to get used and to start working in active way, am still rading all the wikis and the logs to get familiary
[22:55] <Mawaheb> gotta go now , it's quite late in here 12:55 am , see you all tomorrow :)
[22:59] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioMeneses/sandbox/UFT
[22:59] <SergioMeneses> but I cant align the banner, {{attachment:image.png|alt text|align="position"}} doesnt work
[23:01] <chilicuil> SergioMeneses: yeah, it doesn't work, to get it in the middle I use || || || {{atta..}}||
[23:01] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, lol
[23:01] <SergioMeneses> like a table
[23:01] <SergioMeneses> mmm
[23:01] <chilicuil> yep SergioMeneses
[23:06] <SergioMeneses> jejeje chilicuil take a look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioMeneses/sandbox/UFT
[23:08] <chilicuil> it look better in my opinion SergioMeneses =)
[23:08] <ssbob> I like the icons better
[23:08] <SergioMeneses> sure
[23:09] <ssbob> Gr33nD@y
[23:09] <ssbob> sorry ignore that ;(
[23:09] <balloons> ssbob, happens to all of us :-)
[23:10] <SergioMeneses> ssbob, jejeje
[23:10] <SergioMeneses> balloons, is right
[23:10] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, ssbob I'll keep both https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioMeneses/sandbox/UF
[23:17] <balloons> ssbob, you still about?
[23:17] <ssbob> yep
[23:17] <balloons> I finished my empathy testcases, had a fun bug  had to get reported
[23:18] <balloons> anyways, I saw your bug report.. the irc piece worked for me
[23:18] <balloons> I was able to install that packaged
[23:19] <balloons> let's go take a look
[23:19] <ssbob> hmm let me try that again
[23:19] <balloons> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=account-plugin-irc&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[23:19] <balloons> shows as being in since quantal, but does require universe
[23:20] <balloons> hmm.. is universe enabled in the live session
[23:20] <balloons> might not be
[23:20] <ssbob> hmm I wonder if it was because I was on the live cd and not a full install
[23:20] <balloons> probably just main
[23:20] <ssbob> that would be my guess
[23:20] <ssbob> so that explains why I could not find it, as I can now on a full install
[23:21] <balloons> if you run 'software sources' you can turn on universe and multi-verse
[23:21] <balloons> even in the live session
[23:21] <balloons> so, regardless, best to update the case with that info
[23:21] <ssbob> ok that makes sense, what should I do now? Update the bug and then results?
[23:21] <ssbob> yep will do
[23:21] <balloons> yea, comment on the bug.. i'll confirm it
[23:22] <balloons> we'll update the case
[23:23] <SergioMeneses> May I help you guys with the bug? balloons ssbob
[23:24] <balloons> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1122484
[23:25] <ssbob> I put a comment about resolution in the bug, will update the test case when I run through the steps
[23:25] <SergioMeneses> lets see
[23:26] <SergioMeneses> ssbob, but is it fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1122484/comments/2
[23:27] <ssbob> yes it is
[23:28] <ssbob> so would that be "invalid" then? or is this something that someone else has to change?
[23:29] <chilicuil> ssbob: the description of the testcase should be improved, that was my fault, I'm updating it right now, thanks a lot for your report =)
[23:30] <ssbob> your welcome, I should have known to check the sources on a live install. Since I typically don't use it, the thought did not occur to me.
[23:31] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, I think you should comment the bug too
[23:32] <SergioMeneses> but I dont think it is invalid, do you balloons chilicuil ?
[23:33] <chilicuil> SergioMeneses: I think it's valid as well, I'll comment it as soon as I get the merge proposed ready, in 5 min probably
[23:37] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, perfect, I have changed the importance to "Low", I think is the best
[23:37] <chilicuil> SergioMeneses: cool
[23:38] <SergioMeneses> btw ssbob or chilicuil  do you have the testcase link?
[23:39] <ssbob> http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/256/builds/37167/testcases/1415/results
[23:39] <balloons> yes, I think it's valid, just something to note if we're asking folks to install something.. note the repo it's in (just in case! they fdon't have universe multiverse)
[23:39] <chilicuil> balloons: Hi, do you think that for bug #1122293 is enough to add to the testcase, "Please ensure you have the 'multiverse' repository enabled (nod by default in live session)", or do you think I should provide instrucciontions to enable it?
[23:40] <balloons> chilicuil, I think it's safe to say make sure you have universe and multiverse enabled (off by default in live session)
[23:40] <chilicuil> balloons: got it
[23:40] <balloons> I'm wondering though.. should we update the generic instructions for people who might be running things in a  live sessioj
[23:40] <balloons> instead of the testcase
[23:41] <ssbob> both perhaps, in case one was missed
[23:41] <balloons> for now let's make those changes.. something to think about
[23:41] <ssbob> this way you stop getting bugs for silly mistakes from new testers ;)
[23:42] <chilicuil> balloons: yeah, it would be even better, a note in the iso tracker that say 'Please ensure to enable the universe | multiverse repositories'
[23:44] <SergioMeneses> balloons, rocks! I think is the best solution as well