[04:12] anyone running cassandra here? [04:33] hi all.. i've got an issue where my apt-cache is not being updated [04:33] i.e. i see some packages that are newer than the ones it tries to download and fails [04:48] ok, now that i have found out that maverick is essentially dead. How would I possibly perform an upgrade to precise? [04:49] azbyin: you'd have to upgrade to oneiric, then to precise [04:50] bradm, ok. how do I perform this upgrade: maverick -> oneiric -> precise [04:51] azbyin: just a normal upgrade - using do-release-upgrade, or whatever you use normally [04:51] if I log into the syste remotely, it says: New release 'natty' available. [04:51] Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it. [04:51] so i'm not sure if i want to run do-release-upgrade [04:52] oh, yeah, you'll have to hit natty -> oneiric -> precise [04:52] omg! [04:52] you can only upgrade from one release to the next, you can't jump any [04:52] and i need to do this remotely.. [04:52] you reckon it will go smoothly? [04:52] if you stay with LTS, ie you were on lucid, you could have gone to precise directly [04:53] usually the upgrades are pretty good, but its not impossible for things to go wrong, depending on hardware etc [04:54] hardware should be bog standard. i don;t care about X at the moment. that can be fixed later. as long as it will leave the sshd running after the upgrade and reboot, i'll be set [04:54] and ofcourse the net config [04:56] I've done lts upgrades in the past remotely, but never without some sort of fallback if things go horribly wrong [04:56] yeah, the fallback is a linux user sitting on the machine, heh [04:57] so i'll have to guide him like talking to a baby! [04:57] its all about risk management - how bad is it if something goes wrong - there's never a 100% guarantee with these upgrades, since its impossible to know all the variables on the machine [04:58] but you'd be best off most likely getting it to natty, then rebooting and making sure everything works, and then again with oneiric, then to precise [04:58] its hard to say how a precise userspace would react with a maverick kernel [04:59] eh? precise userspace with maverick kernel? [04:59] i'm going to upgrade everything [04:59] right, but I'm saying I'd reboot at the end of each upgrade [04:59] oh, you mean the do-release-upgrade will not update the kernel? [04:59] it'l upgrade it on disk, you need to reboot for it to be running [04:59] as long as it sets up a new kernel and newer udev, etc. it should be fine with a reboot [04:59] ofcourse [05:00] iirc it doesn't force a reboot [05:00] yeah, i'll perform a reboot. i'll killall daemons except for sshd and then perform the upgrade [05:01] but i'll have to complete backups which need to be done by the guy at the other end [05:01] definately [05:01] assuming that things might go bad is the best way to be ready for it [05:04] so i'm assuming only the lts releases and current supported releases are kept on archive.ubuntu.com ? [05:05] right [05:05] i ask because for some reason au.archive.ubuntu.com (our local mirror, running on mirror.aarnet.edu.au) still has *almost* all the packages [05:05] you can get the older releases at old-release.ubuntu.com [05:05] ah, old-releases.ubuntu.com, I mean. [05:06] so wait, if i want a few packages installed, i can point my sources list at this server right? [05:06] the only thing to change will be the server name itself in the urls [05:07] sure, perhaps change the file path in the urls [05:07] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades has some details, bit old [05:07] does anyone know if this is safe/good to add: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ferramroberto/java ? [05:08] anyone on ie? [05:12] bradm, is there an equivalent for extras.ubuntu.com as well? i.e. archive.ubuntu.com -> old-releases.ubuntu.com extras.ubuntu.com -> old-extras.ubuntu.com or something similar? [05:13] azbyin: nothing official, I think [05:13] umm.. ok [05:13] thanks for mentioning old-releases.u.c [05:14] i didn;t know about it. i'm going to install a few packages from there and hopefully the users aren't going to pester me for an "upgrade asap" [05:14] rather have it wait till I actually get physically to the machine [05:15] azbyin: good idea, its always nice to be able to plan these things rather than rush into it [05:15] azbyin: and of course, once you've done all the planning etal, it'll all go flawlessly on the day. :) [05:15] yeah, i really want be physically present for the upgrade (or rather clean setup process) [05:15] given that maverick is "ancient" [05:15] it really is [05:15] sticking with LTS is a good idea for servers [05:16] otherwise you're upgrading every 6 months, or pushing multiple upgrades though. [05:17] or your still running jaunty in production and hating the guy before you for ever using it [05:17] lol blkperl [05:17] :) [05:38] bradm, would you happen to know if kubuntu has a similar old- server with their packages? [05:41] azbyin: can't say I do, sorry. I don't use kubuntu myself [05:41] no worries.. thanks for the help === hatake is now known as blackjack [06:41] hy I use ubuntuserver as tporxy, I use 2 nic, nic nic leads to a second proxy, this is a picture, but I'm still confused http://uploadpic.org/v.php?img=3doJcpmFIQ [06:42] i use mikrotik to , any body can help my ? === acidflash_ is now known as acidflash === smb` is now known as smb [09:04] Hey there. I've got a bit of a quandary. I was running a mass of updates on my server when I stopped home this weekend. It turns out, at least one of them required user-interaction. I don't have retty installed, and my old VNC program Guacamole is failing to actually VNC anymore. Any way to steal the process so I can finish the update, or failing that, safely halt it to resume in a new TTY? [09:08] joshuafcole: apt is pretty smart about failing to update, you should be able to kill the process and resume [09:10] blkperl: I suppose I'll go that route. I was hoping there was some wizardry I had missed along the way to avoid even a slight risk. [09:11] blkperl: Everything seems to have worked beautifully though. Thank goodness for super cow powers. === yofel_ is now known as yofel === railsraider_ is now known as railsraider === acidflash_ is now known as acidflash [11:39] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12956435/screen.png which layout should i use for altgr? i can't get [ ] nor { } [12:23] Daviey: hey can you check pecan? [12:32] zul: my pecan is fine, how is yours? [12:32] Daviey: a little stale (python-pecan is the one im talking about ;) [12:32] !info pecan [12:32] Package pecan does not exist in quantal [12:33] zul: ah. :) [12:35] hallyn: updates to qemu-kvm look good re ISO image size - i386/amd64 now back undersize [13:14] jamespage, zul, i'm trying to check ceilometer api. It shows an access denied when i pass the keystone credentials. But for example "keystone catalog" with same credentials, works [13:14] any idea about what the problem can be? [13:21] zul: please push your changelog changes back to debian.. ktnx [13:34] hey all [13:34] how is everyone [13:35] eagles0513875_, greetings [13:35] hows it going cfhowlett [13:35] no complaints. what's your ubuntu query? [13:36] Hello [13:36] X-Scorpion, greetings. post your query. pretty sure someone here has an answer [13:36] I am having a problem when i join to windows domain saying "The server domain and kerberos realm must match the domain you are trying" [13:37] jamespage: ping [13:38] can anyone tell me how to join AD domain [13:39] well, I suppose that someone else can answer : I've just SRUed bug #967410 [13:39] Launchpad bug 967410 in samba "Windows clients cannot connect to shared printers " [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/967410 [13:39] do you prefer a debdiff or a merge proposal for the fix ? [13:40] any postfix experts in here as I am up a creek with this my email setup as I recieve emails incoming on my business domain with postfix but cannot send out emails from outlook [13:40] anyone have any ideas. and if so i am more then willing to pastbin my postfix conf [13:43] eagles0513875_: #postfix [13:44] ok [13:52] caribou: pong [13:52] jamespage: howdy [13:52] yolanda: that would indicate that your client->keystone auth is OK - but you ceilometer configuration for keystone auth is not [13:53] jamespage: I've just SRUed bug #967410 [13:53] Launchpad bug 967410 in samba "Windows clients cannot connect to shared printers " [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/967410 [13:53] jamespage: do you still maintain the samba suite (saw your Id in the changelog) ? [13:53] jamespage, now i have it working, the ceilometer.conf file wasn't right [13:53] now i have a working api, but that reports nothing [13:53] step by step :) [13:54] caribou: well I'm in the team that maintains it - and I've done the last few merges from Debian [13:54] jamespage: just wanted to know if you preferred a debdiff or a merge proposal for the SRU [13:55] kirkland, utlemming, just making a guess on the issue you saw on friday. a.) "out of inodes" could have caused that (i think). b.) the only other thing i can guess is block device write errors (ie thorugh the hypervisor on a dying node). however, i would have expected dmesg comments to that effect. [13:55] caribou: ah - so you would like a sponsor ;-) [13:56] merge proposal please [13:56] jamespage: well, I suppose that the SRU will come your way, right ? (you or the team) [13:56] caribou: well it would probably end up in the sponsorship queue [13:57] caribou: (but a ping to me is acceptable :-)) [13:58] jamespage: well, I prefer to ask the receiving end what they prefer to receive :-) [13:58] caribou: ta [13:58] caribou: mp is good for me [13:58] but I can deal with either.... [13:59] jamespage: ok, I'll work on the MP. I already got the fix tested & packaged but I haven't done MP in a while. [13:59] jamespage: it'll refresh my memory [13:59] caribou: ack [13:59] jamespage: cool [14:00] jamespage: the fix is already in quantal & raring, so I suppose that I'll to the MP against the precise-propose branch [14:00] is the server based oemconfig working in 12.04.1? [14:00] caribou: precise-updates [14:00] jamespage: ah, ok [14:03] yolanda: pecan made it into the archive [14:11] jamespage: so the plan for eventlet is run the tempest locally before i install it locally and after [14:12] zul: coolio - I'd be tempted to throw it in the lab archive as well and test rebuild everything and run a deployment [14:12] jamespage: that works as well [14:13] jodh, does the upstart socket bridge support things like buffering connections if the underlying service providing the socket is restarted/upgraded? [14:15] zul, great! [14:15] any plans for wsme? [14:15] yolanda: will look at it again today [14:16] ok [14:29] Hi! I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04.1 on IBM System X3100 M4 Server and would like to configure RAID1 with 2 x 500 gb sata hdd [14:30] Guest87983: they have a hardware raid controller in as I recall [14:32] they have a fake raid in it but when I configure it and boot into ubuntu server installation it does not show up. [14:33] does this have to do something with EFI? [14:36] any help in this regards would be very much appreciated, i had already spent about 3 days without much progress. [14:37] ikonia: any clue? === wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood [14:37] Guest87983: proably just doesn't have linux support for that card built in [14:38] ok, but what about with software raid? [14:38] what about it ? [14:38] I am not able to set the physical raid to bootable [14:38] ? [14:38] what has that got to do with software raid [14:39] this is what I was trying to do. in the pratition setup I created a 500 mb for /boot and the rest for / [14:40] I set it as physical partion for Raid [14:40] jamespage: should I subscribe ubuntu-sponsor as well as sru-team for the Samba SRU ? [14:40] physical partition for raid ? [14:40] Guest87983: I'm sorry I'm not understanding what you are saying [14:41] When I set the partition type to Raid and try to set it to bootable, the flag would not change [14:43] ikonia: I guess I confused you using the wrong terminology, but what I meant was I am not able to set the raid partition to bootable [14:43] so when the installation is done, i am not able to boot into the server [14:43] Guest87983: probably because it's fake raid [14:44] the fake raid needs the OS in place to assemble the disk [14:45] ikonia: I did not enable the RAID option in the bios and am trying to install using the software raid option available in the ubuntu server installation [14:45] Guest87983: right so what's the problem ? [14:46] When I try to set the partition to bootable the flag does not change to bootable and hence I am not able to boot after the installation is complete. [14:51] Guest87983: just go to a console and use fdisk to set the flat [14:51] flag [14:52] nibbler_: When I restart the server after the installation, the server would not just boot into the OS, I would is acting as if nothing was installed. [14:53] basically it is not able to find the boot partition or the mbr [14:54] Guest87983: you made that perfectly clear. i failed doing so it seems. while in installation, or after booting some rescue system, flag the partitions of the disks (not the raid) as bootable [14:57] hi, i'm having this problem with keystone: keystone Authorization Failed: No connection adapters were found [14:57] any idea about that? [15:00] nibbler_: I shall try that and get back if I have any problems === iarp_ is now known as iarp [15:24] hi zul [15:24] koolhead17: hi [15:25] zul: how have you been sir? [15:25] koolhead17: good you? [15:26] hazmat: do you have time to help me debug that zookeeper test failure I mentioned last week? [15:27] zul: am good. kind of trying to dig bit inside the filter scheduler and docs corresponding to it [15:27] koolhead17: ok [15:27] zul: wassup with you? too much of packaging :) [15:27] * koolhead17 bows to jamespage [15:28] koolhead17: too much of everything [15:28] zul: ** BEER ** [15:28] koolhead17: hey! [15:29] jamespage: i been lucky to understand bit about quantum finally :) [15:29] koolhead17: **\o/** [15:30] koolhead17: do you remember I was saying you could run maas virtually? [15:30] jamespage: yes. i have maas/juju for next month in my plate [15:30] jamespage: but i doubt you can run VLAN mode with it? [15:31] tunnel will work fine [15:32] koolhead17: actually that might be possible [15:33] jamespage: with some external SDN [15:33] plugin? [15:33] koolhead17: I've been using openvswitch on the virtual host hosting maas (if that makes any sense) [15:33] and that can support VLAN etc.etc. [15:33] so its possible [15:34] koolhead17: https://code.launchpad.net/~virtual-maasers/charms/precise/virtual-maas/trunk [15:35] jamespage: nice. now that means installing quantum is much much easier :D [15:37] jamespage: once Grizzly comes in how many days it will take us to update our Juju Repo? Would love to blog with all install steps once Grizzlly relases [15:41] koolhead17: charms are already being updated [15:43] awesome!! === lyda_ is now known as lyda [15:53] sarnold: jdstrand: thanks for the vde2 input. [15:54] np (for my part). sarnold did all the heavy lifting [16:30] anyone know if this openssl vulnerability has or will be addressed for 12.04 LTS? http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20130205.txt [16:30] Hexi: yes, it is actively being worked on [16:31] jdstrand: great thanks! [16:31] eg: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2013/CVE-2013-0169.html [16:31] jdstrand: ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-0169) === shan is now known as Guest72561 [17:14] utlemming: ping, hallyn told me to tell you my story, [17:14] vila_: uh oh.... [17:15] I'm setting up a kvm from a cloud-image and it hangs at [ 0.0000] Console [tty1] enabled until I 'virsh console ' and hit return on my physical kbd [17:15] once booted if I remove ttyS0 from "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="console=tty1 console=ttyS0" it don't hang anymore at boot [17:15] vila_: where did you fetch the image from? [17:16] utlemming: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/{vm.release}/current/ [17:16] for raring [17:16] {vm.release}-server-cloudimg-{vm.cpu_model}-disk1.img [17:16] for raring and amd64 [17:17] vila_: can you write up a bug report for that? [17:17] utlemming: sure [17:17] utlemming: against which project ? [17:18] utlemming: err, wait, I think there is one already, let me check [17:19] utlemming: ha no, I also hit bug #1103881 but that's different [17:19] Launchpad bug 1103881 in upstart "cloud-final is never executed if upstart is upgraded during initialization of the image " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1103881 [17:20] blackberry + wpad - is it possible? [17:20] utlemming: so, which project ? qemu ? [17:21] vila_: ubuntu for now [17:21] vila_: we need to dig on where the bug is [17:33] utlemming: bug #1122245 [17:33] Launchpad bug 1122245 in ubuntu "booting from a cloud image hangs until virsh console is used" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1122245 [17:34] utlemming: let me know if you need more info or help (this is part of a test setup I'm working so I have some automated tests that reproduce it (and are a pain so far as I couldn't find a way to automate that "return from the physical keyboard" part so far ;) [17:42] zul, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-keystoneclient/+bug/1122146 [17:42] Launchpad bug 1122146 in python-keystoneclient "python-keystoneclient conflicts with python-requests" [High,Confirmed] [17:42] smoser: fixed in bzr ill probably upload something today [17:44] vila_, it would seem this is likely regressed from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-keystoneclient/+bug/1122146 [17:44] Launchpad bug 1122146 in python-keystoneclient "python-keystoneclient conflicts with python-requests" [High,Confirmed] [17:44] zul, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-keystoneclient/+bug/1122146 [17:44] smoser: wrong bug # ? [17:45] smoser: or just wrong people ? ;-D [17:45] vila_, well, yrou bug is fallout of that change. i would suspect. [17:45] Hey guys [17:46] smoser: keystone involved in a bare cloud image ?? [17:46] vila_, unrelated. [17:46] sorry. [17:46] smoser: pfew [17:46] I was gone set up a IDS with pfsense and snort. Any recomendation on how much ram I would need on this machine? gone push 30MB/s [17:47] ugh. villa, sorry... i meant to paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1016695 to you. [17:47] Launchpad bug 1016695 in cloud-init "add console=tty1 to cloud-image kernel boot parameters" [Wishlist,Fix committed] [17:47] vila_, [17:47] and python-keystone to ul [17:47] ziul [17:47] wow [17:47] i cannot type [17:47] smoser: ha, better, indeed, I saw that one a couple of days ago but wasn't sure how they relate, thanks, will mention it in my bug [17:48] smoser: wow, you beat me to it ;) [17:48] where does virt-install come from ? [17:50] ah. virtinst. i'd never seen that. i like the cmdline syntax. [17:57] smoser: sry, was afk, yeah virtinst [17:58] good morning [17:58] i have a virtual server with two defined nics [17:59] nic1 is used for management network and for PXE booting [17:59] nic2 is supposed to connect to the internet to provide packages from repos [18:00] i need both interfaces configured during install, nic1 static, nic2 dhcp [18:00] how can I make preseed configure both interfaces? [18:03] chrish1: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1713845.html looks promising [18:04] genii-around: I am going to try this, thanks! [18:08] that doesnt really solve my problem though, as far as I understand it this is about which interface gets selected during preseed, not about configuring more than one interface [18:21] hello all! [18:21] i have a question: how to convert "cpu user time" to "real time"? thanks in advance! [18:22] paco1, not really possible [18:23] where do you see "cpu user time" ? [18:23] for example [18:23] i use sa command [18:23] probably as opposed to cpu system time.. [18:24] or nice time [18:24] sa -u | grep paco | egrep "soffice.bin" > paco 3.02 cpu 49728k mem 0 io soffice.bin [18:25] paco1: what do you mean by cpu user time, cpu user time is in cpuseconds [18:26] *i mean what do you mean by converting? [18:26] :D [18:26] cpu user time is exactly that, the real amount of time that one cpu has worked for the process during its lifetime [18:27] that's seems to be a strange time [18:30] you just do not make sense, how do you convert seconds to seconds [18:31] paco1: what about those times don't make sense? [18:31] smoser/adam_g: im going to upload a new python-keystoneclient in the next couple of minutes to fix the requests stuff [18:31] probably best if you ask what you're actually trying to achieve. cpu time is a red herring. eg, "ps -eo pid,cmd,etime" will give you elapsed time (etime) [18:31] paco1: did you expect openoffice to consume far more cpu? or far less? [18:32] no, i would like to know the time i use my programs [18:33] and what hour i open them and what hour i close them [18:33] aha! :) [18:33] ;) [18:34] if you have a solution.... [18:34] hamster [18:35] its for that i searched with sa, acct and ac command [18:35] http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/ [18:36] paco1: ps -e -o pid,start_time [18:37] paco1: that of course only shows you the start time of currently executing programs [18:37] if you're doing process accounting, the trick missing from your list is 'lastcomm'. which will show you the last time a process was invoked, and how long it lasted [18:37] paco1: if you ran a similar command every few minutes, you could build a datastructure that knows when programs were running [18:38] shauno: awesome. :) [18:39] ah, that uses cpu time too :/ I can only find etime for a running process. awkward. [18:41] aww. [18:41] etime? [18:41] paco1: if you are talking about desktop usage, there is a program already in ubuntu... [18:41] can track your active window too [18:41] cant remember [18:41] which one though [18:41] shauno: if it's about execution time, ps or top will help out [18:41] lastcomm --debug has it, the 5th value is elapsed in hundredths of a second. but that seems more accidental than intuitive [18:41] ps has it while the process is running, not afterwards [18:42] well, yeah [18:42] if he wants a start time & a finish time, it has to be post-mortem [18:42] use "time somecmd" [18:42] RoyK: he wants the system to collect the times of day that programs are run [18:43] oh [18:43] is there something like process accounting in ubuntu (or on linux?) [18:43] sarnold: exactly [18:44] RoyK: there is, but it only knows about processes _after_ they die, and doesn't record the start time and stop time, iirc [18:44] ztane: if you remember the name.... ;) [18:46] I think you're going the right direction with acct, it's just not a very intuitive tool [18:47] the downside to acct is that it only knows about processes once they have died :) [18:47] shauno: "it's just not a very intuitive tool"....yes, i see it... :/ [18:47] you just can't win. hehe. [18:47] I guess process accounting and perhaps using ulimit for some users may be good? [18:48] * RoyK tried to use ipf for firewalling on openindiana and found iptables *very* nice and intuitive in comparison [18:49] RoyK: hehe, after my initial ipfwadm experience, I really _learned_ firewalling on ipf and pf. I never got the hang of iptables afterwards :( [18:50] lastcomm shows it in the debug record, so the info is there /somewhere/ .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1637201/ [18:50] sarnold: hehe [18:51] shauno: nice :D [18:53] 1000/1000 look like uid/guid, no idea what 3284 is, 17812 & 16334 look like the pid and the parent. it's all there, just very terse [18:56] shauno: what's happening? a lost process eating cpu? [18:57] paco1's query, I'm just looking to see if gnu acct has the answers he seeks [18:58] shauno: thanks [18:58] paco1: what's happening? a lost process eating cpu? [18:59] paco1: sometimes a server is rooted and a rootkit is installed - it's not fun, but it happens... [18:59] RoyK: < paco1> no, i would like to know the time i use my programs < paco1> and what hour i open them and what hour i close them [18:59] RoyK: no no, all is good. it's just for me [19:00] ok [19:00] sarnold: yeah [19:03] RoyK: i'm looking for ac, sa and like shauno said lastcomm [19:04] smoser: looks like we need a newer boto http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1637239/ [19:09] yolanda: ping where is wsme again? [19:09] yolanda: doh never mind [19:15] lastcomm read the /var/log/account/pacct file? [19:17] Unable to connect internet by wifi in ubuntu server ? [19:22] zul, what is test_api.py ? [19:22] smoser: tests the ec2 api [19:22] Unable to connect internet by wifi in ubuntu server ? [19:23] i did a test with soffice > 2.44 secs?? [19:23] with lastcomm command [19:24] 2.44 secs > how to read that? [19:26] zul, i dont think we need a new boto [19:26] i think that commit just sucked [19:26] smoser: could be [19:28] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19987/ [19:28] thats what did it [19:28] specifically https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19987/6/nova/tests/test_api.py [19:28] and it seems simply broken === Sophism is now known as Guest88372 [19:31] how can i interpret that result: 2.44 secs? [19:32] paco1: that's probably the CPU time taken [19:34] anyone familiar with this kvm error kvm: 1824: cpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001 [19:35] the guests seem to be running fine [19:35] zul, do you still need me? sorry i disconnected for a while [19:35] but its still uneasy [19:35] yolanda: nope [19:35] sarnold: ok [19:39] also, anyone use(d) sys_basher to test computer stability ? [19:45] I followed a howto and got Time Machine backups to my Ubuntu 12.04.1 server working (avahi + netatalk). Now "something" has happened so my mac can no longer see any afp-shares. I have no idea how to figure out where the problem lies. Anyone here that do? [19:48] tasslehoff: nothing beyond wondering if there are any informative error messages in logs on client or server :) [19:52] sarnold: nay, all seems normal. but, I managed to connect from osx to afp://, so I suspect the issue is on the mac-side. [19:53] I'm actually a little stunned that apple still supports the afp-style networking. [19:54] sarnold: I don't know much about it, but since Time Machine is so ... accesible I decided to try setting it up. [19:55] But, it won't take much trouble to make me use Crashplan or something else instead.. [19:56] tasslehoff: well, they do different things :) crashplan for the fire, time machine for the dead hard drive.. hehe [19:56] zul, can you easily test http://paste.ubuntu.com/1637380/ [19:56] i suspect that will fix it. [19:57] smoer: sure [20:05] sarnold: yup, except I only use crashplan locally, since transatlantic transfer speeds are abysmal [20:10] hi. is there a repo or such from which one could install the os from like in ie centos (http://mirror.academica.fi/CentOS/6.3/os/x86_64/) [20:10] tried scouring the repo but didnt find it there, tried finding references from docs too [20:14] zapotah: you mean you're just trying to do a netinstall? [20:15] got firmware that can boot http [20:15] and i dont want to setup a local http boot server at this time [20:16] with centos its as easy as booting that dir from the firmware [20:18] just wondering if ubuntu repos or such have the same kind of thing somewhere [20:20] utlemming: if you've got time, let's talk juju on the vagrant images [20:22] zapotah: you're looking for the netboot directory? http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ [20:22] substitute release or arch of course [20:27] smoser: nope it doesnt === Nigel_ is now known as G [20:29] zul, it surely can't fail the same way. [20:41] jcastro: that dir only contains the stuff to create your own boot server [20:41] zapotah: are you looking for the mini net-install disc? [20:42] no a http bootable repo dir or such, which im beginning to think does not exist for ubuntu [20:42] centos has such a dir on their repo mirrors [20:42] ie: http://mirror.academica.fi/CentOS/6.3/os/x86_64/ [20:42] you can boot an install straight from that [20:42] zapotah: oh, they run a tftp node for you or something? [20:43] easy, ipxe and netboot [20:43] ipxe can easily boot from http [20:43] what patdk-lap said [20:43] still requires tftp or usb or something to load ipxe [20:43] ipxe is in the rom [20:44]