[04:12] <codepython777> anyone running cassandra here?
[04:33] <azbyin> hi all.. i've got an issue where my apt-cache is not being updated
[04:33] <azbyin> i.e. i see some packages that are newer than the ones it tries to download and fails
[04:48] <azbyin> ok, now that i have found out that maverick is essentially dead. How would I possibly perform an upgrade to precise?
[04:49] <bradm> azbyin: you'd have to upgrade to oneiric, then to precise
[04:50] <azbyin> bradm, ok. how do I perform this upgrade: maverick -> oneiric -> precise
[04:51] <bradm> azbyin: just a normal upgrade - using do-release-upgrade, or whatever you use normally
[04:51] <azbyin> if I log into the syste remotely, it says: New release 'natty' available.
[04:51] <azbyin> Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it.
[04:51] <azbyin> so i'm not sure if i want to run do-release-upgrade
[04:52] <bradm> oh, yeah, you'll have to hit natty -> oneiric -> precise
[04:52] <azbyin> omg!
[04:52] <bradm> you can only upgrade from one release to the next, you can't jump any
[04:52] <azbyin> and i need to do this remotely..
[04:52] <azbyin> you reckon it will go smoothly?
[04:52] <bradm> if you stay with LTS, ie you were on lucid, you could have gone to precise directly
[04:53] <bradm> usually the upgrades are pretty good, but its not impossible for things to go wrong, depending on hardware etc
[04:54] <azbyin> hardware should be bog standard. i don;t care about X at the moment. that can be fixed later. as long as it will leave the sshd running after the upgrade and reboot, i'll be set
[04:54] <azbyin> and ofcourse the net config
[04:56] <bradm> I've done lts upgrades in the past remotely, but never without some sort of fallback if things go horribly wrong
[04:56] <azbyin> yeah, the fallback is a linux user sitting on the machine, heh
[04:57] <azbyin> so i'll have to guide him like talking to a baby!
[04:57] <bradm> its all about risk management - how bad is it if something goes wrong - there's never a 100% guarantee with these upgrades, since its impossible to know all the variables on the machine
[04:58] <bradm> but you'd be best off most likely getting it to natty, then rebooting and making sure everything works, and then again with oneiric, then to precise
[04:58] <bradm> its hard to say how a precise userspace would react with a maverick kernel
[04:59] <azbyin> eh? precise userspace with maverick kernel?
[04:59] <azbyin> i'm going to upgrade everything
[04:59] <bradm> right, but I'm saying I'd reboot at the end of each upgrade
[04:59] <azbyin> oh, you mean the do-release-upgrade will not update the kernel?
[04:59] <bradm> it'l upgrade it on disk, you need to reboot for it to be running
[04:59] <azbyin> as long as it sets up a new kernel and newer udev, etc. it should be fine with a reboot
[04:59] <azbyin> ofcourse
[05:00] <bradm> iirc it doesn't force a reboot
[05:00] <azbyin> yeah, i'll perform a reboot. i'll killall daemons except for sshd and then perform the upgrade
[05:01] <azbyin> but i'll have to complete backups which need to be done by the guy at the other end
[05:01] <bradm> definately
[05:01] <bradm> assuming that things might go bad is the best way to be ready for it
[05:04] <azbyin> so i'm assuming only the lts releases and current supported releases are kept on archive.ubuntu.com ?
[05:05] <bradm> right
[05:05] <azbyin> i ask because for some reason au.archive.ubuntu.com (our local mirror, running on mirror.aarnet.edu.au) still has *almost* all the packages
[05:05] <bradm> you can get the older releases at old-release.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <bradm> ah, old-releases.ubuntu.com, I mean.
[05:06] <azbyin> so wait, if i want a few packages installed, i can point my sources list at this server right?
[05:06] <azbyin> the only thing to change will be the server name itself in the urls
[05:07] <bradm> sure, perhaps change the file path in the urls
[05:07] <bradm> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades has some details, bit old
[05:07] <codepython777> does anyone know if this is safe/good to add: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ferramroberto/java ?
[05:08] <solitude88> anyone on ie?
[05:12] <azbyin> bradm, is there an equivalent for extras.ubuntu.com as well?  i.e. archive.ubuntu.com -> old-releases.ubuntu.com    extras.ubuntu.com -> old-extras.ubuntu.com  or something similar?
[05:13] <bradm> azbyin: nothing official, I think
[05:13] <azbyin> umm.. ok
[05:13] <azbyin> thanks for mentioning old-releases.u.c
[05:14] <azbyin> i didn;t know about it. i'm going to install a few packages from there and hopefully the users aren't going to pester me for an "upgrade asap"
[05:14] <azbyin> rather have it wait till I actually get physically to the machine
[05:15] <bradm> azbyin: good idea, its always nice to be able to plan these things rather than rush into it
[05:15] <bradm> azbyin: and of course, once you've done all the planning etal, it'll all go flawlessly on the day. :)
[05:15] <azbyin> yeah, i really want be physically present for the upgrade (or rather clean setup process)
[05:15] <azbyin> given that maverick is "ancient"
[05:15] <bradm> it really is
[05:15] <bradm> sticking with LTS is a good idea for servers
[05:16] <bradm> otherwise you're upgrading every 6 months, or pushing multiple upgrades though.
[05:17] <blkperl> or your still running jaunty in production and hating the guy before you for ever using it
[05:17] <azbyin> lol blkperl
[05:17] <blkperl> :)
[05:38] <azbyin> bradm, would you happen to know if kubuntu has a similar old-  server with their packages?
[05:41] <bradm> azbyin: can't say I do, sorry.  I don't use kubuntu myself
[05:41] <azbyin> no worries.. thanks for the help
[06:41] <blackjack> hy I use ubuntuserver as tporxy, I use 2 nic, nic nic leads to a second proxy, this is a picture, but I'm still confused http://uploadpic.org/v.php?img=3doJcpmFIQ
[06:42] <blackjack> i use mikrotik to , any body can help my ?
[09:04] <joshuafcole> Hey there. I've got a bit of a quandary. I was running a mass of updates on my server when I stopped home this weekend. It turns out, at least one of them required user-interaction. I don't have retty installed, and my old VNC program Guacamole is failing to actually VNC anymore. Any way to steal the process so I can finish the update, or failing that, safely halt it to resume in a new TTY?
[09:08] <blkperl> joshuafcole: apt is pretty smart about failing to update, you should be able to kill the process and resume
[09:10] <joshuafcole> blkperl: I suppose I'll go that route. I was hoping there was some wizardry I had missed along the way to avoid even a slight risk.
[09:11] <joshuafcole> blkperl: Everything seems to have worked beautifully though. Thank goodness for super cow powers.
[11:39] <Sendoushi> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12956435/screen.png which layout should i use for altgr? i can't get [ ] nor { }
[12:23] <zul> Daviey: hey can you check pecan?
[12:32] <Daviey> zul: my pecan is fine, how is yours?
[12:32] <zul> Daviey:  a little stale (python-pecan is the one im talking about ;)
[12:32] <cfhowlett> !info pecan
[12:33] <Daviey> zul: ah. :)
[12:35] <jamespage> hallyn: updates to qemu-kvm look good re ISO image size - i386/amd64 now back undersize
[13:14] <yolanda> jamespage, zul, i'm trying to check ceilometer api. It shows an access denied when i pass the keystone credentials. But for example "keystone catalog" with same credentials, works
[13:14] <yolanda> any idea about what the problem can be?
[13:21] <Daviey> zul: please push your changelog changes back to debian.. ktnx
[13:34] <eagles0513875_> hey all
[13:34] <eagles0513875_> how is everyone
[13:35] <cfhowlett> eagles0513875_, greetings
[13:35] <eagles0513875_> hows it going cfhowlett
[13:35] <cfhowlett> no complaints.  what's your ubuntu query?
[13:36] <X-Scorpion> Hello
[13:36] <cfhowlett> X-Scorpion, greetings.  post your query.  pretty sure someone here has an answer
[13:36] <X-Scorpion> I am having a problem when i join to windows domain saying "The server domain and kerberos realm must match the domain you are trying"
[13:37] <caribou> jamespage: ping
[13:38] <X-Scorpion> can anyone tell me how to join AD domain
[13:39] <caribou> well, I suppose that someone else can answer : I've just SRUed bug #967410
[13:39] <caribou> do you prefer a debdiff or a merge proposal for the fix ?
[13:40] <eagles0513875_> any postfix experts in here as I am up a creek with this my email setup as I recieve emails incoming on my business domain with postfix but cannot send out emails from outlook
[13:40] <eagles0513875_> anyone have any ideas. and if so i am more then willing to pastbin my postfix conf
[13:43] <ikonia> eagles0513875_: #postfix
[13:44] <eagles0513875_> ok
[13:52] <jamespage> caribou: pong
[13:52] <caribou> jamespage: howdy
[13:52] <jamespage> yolanda: that would indicate that your client->keystone auth is OK - but you ceilometer configuration for keystone auth is not
[13:53] <caribou> jamespage: I've just SRUed bug #967410
[13:53] <caribou> jamespage: do you still maintain the samba suite (saw your Id in the changelog) ?
[13:53] <yolanda> jamespage, now i have it working, the ceilometer.conf file wasn't right
[13:53] <yolanda> now i have a working api, but that reports nothing
[13:53] <yolanda> step by step :)
[13:54] <jamespage> caribou: well I'm in the team that maintains it - and I've done the last few merges from Debian
[13:54] <caribou> jamespage: just wanted to know if you preferred a debdiff or a merge proposal for the SRU
[13:55] <smoser> kirkland, utlemming, just making a guess on the issue you saw on friday. a.) "out of inodes" could have caused that (i think). b.) the only other thing i can guess is block device write errors (ie thorugh the hypervisor on a dying node).  however, i would have expected dmesg comments to that effect.
[13:55] <jamespage> caribou: ah - so you would like a sponsor ;-)
[13:56] <jamespage> merge proposal please
[13:56] <caribou> jamespage: well, I suppose that the SRU will  come your way, right ? (you or the team)
[13:56] <jamespage> caribou: well it would probably end up in the sponsorship queue
[13:57] <jamespage> caribou: (but a ping to me is acceptable :-))
[13:58] <caribou> jamespage: well, I prefer to ask the receiving end what they prefer to receive :-)
[13:58] <jamespage> caribou: ta
[13:58] <jamespage> caribou: mp is good for me
[13:58] <jamespage> but I can deal with either....
[13:59] <caribou> jamespage: ok, I'll work on the MP. I already got the fix tested & packaged but I haven't done MP in a while.
[13:59] <caribou> jamespage: it'll refresh my memory
[13:59] <jamespage> caribou: ack
[13:59] <hallyn> jamespage: cool
[14:00] <caribou> jamespage: the fix is already in quantal & raring, so I suppose that I'll to the MP against the precise-propose branch
[14:00] <mercsniper> is the server based oemconfig working in 12.04.1?
[14:00] <jamespage> caribou: precise-updates
[14:00] <caribou> jamespage: ah, ok
[14:03] <zul> yolanda: pecan made it into the archive
[14:11] <zul> jamespage: so the plan for eventlet is run the tempest locally before i install it locally and after
[14:12] <jamespage> zul: coolio - I'd be tempted to throw it in the lab archive as well and test rebuild everything and run a deployment
[14:12] <zul> jamespage: that works as well
[14:13] <hazmat> jodh, does the upstart socket bridge support things like buffering connections if the underlying service providing the socket is restarted/upgraded?
[14:15] <yolanda> zul, great!
[14:15] <yolanda> any plans for wsme?
[14:15] <zul> yolanda: will look at it again today
[14:16] <yolanda> ok
[14:29] <Guest87983> Hi! I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04.1 on IBM System X3100 M4 Server and would like to configure RAID1 with 2 x 500 gb sata hdd
[14:30] <ikonia> Guest87983: they have a hardware raid controller in as I recall
[14:32] <Guest87983> they have a fake raid in it but when I configure it and boot into ubuntu server installation it does not show up.
[14:33] <Guest87983> does this have to do something with EFI?
[14:36] <Guest87983> any help in this regards would be very much appreciated, i had already spent about 3 days without much progress.
[14:37] <Guest87983> ikonia: any clue?
[14:37] <ikonia> Guest87983: proably just doesn't have linux support for that card built in
[14:38] <Guest87983> ok, but what about with software raid?
[14:38] <ikonia> what about it ?
[14:38] <Guest87983>  I am not able to set the physical raid  to bootable
[14:38] <ikonia> ?
[14:38] <ikonia> what has that got to do with software raid
[14:39] <Guest87983> this is what I was trying to do. in the pratition setup I created a 500 mb for /boot and the rest for /
[14:40] <Guest87983> I set it as physical partion for Raid
[14:40] <caribou> jamespage: should I subscribe ubuntu-sponsor as well as sru-team for the Samba SRU ?
[14:40] <ikonia> physical partition for raid ?
[14:40] <ikonia> Guest87983: I'm sorry I'm not understanding what you are saying
[14:41] <Guest87983> When I set the partition type to Raid and try to set it to bootable, the flag would not change
[14:43] <Guest87983> ikonia: I guess I confused you using the wrong terminology, but what I meant was I am not able to set the raid partition to bootable
[14:43] <Guest87983> so when the installation is done, i am not able to boot into the server
[14:43] <ikonia> Guest87983: probably because it's fake raid
[14:44] <ikonia> the fake raid needs the OS in place to assemble the disk
[14:45] <Guest87983> ikonia: I did not enable the RAID option in the bios and am trying to install using the software raid option available in the ubuntu server installation
[14:45] <ikonia> Guest87983: right so what's the problem ?
[14:46] <Guest87983> When I try to set the partition to bootable the flag does not change to bootable and hence I am not able to boot after the installation is complete.
[14:51] <nibbler_> Guest87983: just go to a console and use fdisk to set the flat
[14:51] <nibbler_> flag
[14:52] <Guest87983> nibbler_: When I restart the server after the installation, the server would not just boot into the OS, I would is acting as if nothing was installed.
[14:53] <Guest87983> basically it is not able to find the boot partition or the mbr
[14:54] <nibbler_> Guest87983: you made that perfectly clear. i failed doing so it seems. while in installation, or after booting some rescue system, flag the partitions of the disks (not the raid) as bootable
[14:57] <yolanda> hi, i'm having this problem with keystone: keystone Authorization Failed: No connection adapters were found
[14:57] <yolanda> any idea about that?
[15:00] <Guest87983> nibbler_: I shall try that and get back if I have any problems
[15:24] <koolhead17> hi zul
[15:24] <zul> koolhead17: hi
[15:25] <koolhead17> zul: how have you been sir?
[15:25] <zul> koolhead17: good you?
[15:26] <jamespage> hazmat: do you have time to help me debug that zookeeper test failure I mentioned last week?
[15:27] <koolhead17> zul: am good. kind of trying to dig bit inside the filter scheduler and docs corresponding to it
[15:27] <zul> koolhead17: ok
[15:27] <koolhead17> zul: wassup with you? too much of packaging :)
[15:27]  * koolhead17 bows to jamespage 
[15:28] <zul> koolhead17: too much of everything
[15:28] <koolhead17> zul: ** BEER **
[15:28] <jamespage> koolhead17: hey!
[15:29] <koolhead17> jamespage: i been lucky to understand bit about quantum finally :)
[15:29] <jamespage> koolhead17: **\o/**
[15:30] <jamespage> koolhead17: do you remember I was saying you could run maas virtually?
[15:30] <koolhead17> jamespage: yes. i have maas/juju for next month in my plate
[15:30] <koolhead17> jamespage: but i doubt you can run VLAN mode with it?
[15:31] <koolhead17> tunnel will work fine
[15:32] <jamespage> koolhead17: actually that might be possible
[15:33] <koolhead17> jamespage: with some external SDN
[15:33] <koolhead17> plugin?
[15:33] <jamespage> koolhead17: I've been using openvswitch on the virtual host hosting maas (if that makes any sense)
[15:33] <jamespage> and that can support VLAN etc.etc.
[15:33] <jamespage> so its possible
[15:34] <jamespage> koolhead17: https://code.launchpad.net/~virtual-maasers/charms/precise/virtual-maas/trunk
[15:35] <koolhead17> jamespage: nice. now that means installing quantum is much much easier :D
[15:37] <koolhead17> jamespage: once Grizzly comes in how many days it will take us to update our Juju Repo? Would love to blog with all install steps once Grizzlly relases
[15:41] <jamespage> koolhead17: charms are already being updated
[15:43] <koolhead17> awesome!!
[15:53] <hallyn> sarnold: jdstrand: thanks for the vde2 input.
[15:54] <jdstrand> np (for my part). sarnold did all the heavy lifting
[16:30] <Hexi> anyone know if this openssl vulnerability has or will be addressed for 12.04 LTS?  http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20130205.txt
[16:30] <jdstrand> Hexi: yes, it is actively being worked on
[16:31] <Hexi> jdstrand: great thanks!
[16:31] <jdstrand> eg: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2013/CVE-2013-0169.html
[17:14] <vila_> utlemming: ping, hallyn told me to tell you my story,
[17:14] <utlemming> vila_: uh oh....
[17:15] <vila_> I'm setting up a kvm from a cloud-image and it hangs at [     0.0000] Console [tty1] enabled until I 'virsh console <guest>' and hit return on my physical kbd
[17:15] <vila_> once booted if I remove ttyS0 from "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="console=tty1 console=ttyS0" it don't hang anymore at boot
[17:15] <utlemming> vila_: where did you fetch the image from?
[17:16] <vila_> utlemming: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/{vm.release}/current/
[17:16] <vila_> for raring
[17:16] <vila_> {vm.release}-server-cloudimg-{vm.cpu_model}-disk1.img
[17:16] <vila_> for raring and amd64
[17:17] <utlemming> vila_: can you write up a bug report for that?
[17:17] <vila_> utlemming: sure
[17:17] <vila_> utlemming: against which project ?
[17:18] <vila_> utlemming: err, wait, I think there is one already, let me check
[17:19] <vila_> utlemming: ha no, I also hit bug #1103881 but that's different
[17:20] <Techdude1011> blackberry + wpad - is it possible?
[17:20] <vila_> utlemming: so, which project ? qemu ?
[17:21] <utlemming> vila_: ubuntu for now
[17:21] <utlemming> vila_: we need to dig on where the bug is
[17:33] <vila_> utlemming: bug #1122245
[17:34] <vila_> utlemming: let me know if you need more info or help (this is part of a test setup I'm working so I have some automated tests that reproduce it (and are a pain so far as I couldn't find a way to automate that "return from the physical keyboard" part so far ;)
[17:42] <smoser> zul, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-keystoneclient/+bug/1122146
[17:42] <zul> smoser: fixed in bzr ill probably upload something today
[17:44] <smoser> vila_, it would seem this is likely regressed from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-keystoneclient/+bug/1122146
[17:44] <smoser> zul, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-keystoneclient/+bug/1122146
[17:44] <vila_> smoser: wrong bug # ?
[17:45] <vila_> smoser: or just wrong people ? ;-D
[17:45] <smoser> vila_, well, yrou bug is fallout of that change. i would suspect.
[17:45] <Nahita> Hey guys
[17:46] <vila_> smoser: keystone involved in a bare cloud image ??
[17:46] <smoser> vila_, unrelated.
[17:46] <smoser> sorry.
[17:46] <vila_> smoser: pfew
[17:46] <Nahita> I was gone set up a IDS with pfsense and snort. Any recomendation on how much ram I would need on this machine? gone push 30MB/s
[17:47] <smoser> ugh. villa, sorry... i meant to paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1016695 to you.
[17:47] <smoser> vila_,
[17:47] <smoser> and python-keystone to ul
[17:47] <smoser> ziul
[17:47] <smoser> wow
[17:47] <smoser> i cannot type
[17:47] <vila_> smoser: ha, better, indeed, I saw that one a couple of days ago but wasn't sure how they relate, thanks, will mention it in my bug
[17:48] <vila_> smoser: wow, you beat me to it ;)
[17:48] <smoser> where does virt-install come from ?
[17:50] <smoser> ah. virtinst. i'd never seen that. i like the cmdline syntax.
[17:57] <vila_> smoser: sry, was afk, yeah virtinst
[17:58] <chrish1> good morning
[17:58] <chrish1> i have a virtual server with two defined nics
[17:59] <chrish1> nic1 is used for management network and for PXE booting
[17:59] <chrish1> nic2 is supposed to connect to the internet to provide packages from repos
[18:00] <chrish1> i need both interfaces configured during install, nic1 static, nic2 dhcp
[18:00] <chrish1> how can I make preseed configure both interfaces?
[18:03] <genii-around> chrish1: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1713845.html looks promising
[18:04] <chrish1> genii-around: I am going to try this, thanks!
[18:08] <chrish1> that doesnt really solve my problem though, as far as I understand it this is about which interface gets selected during preseed, not about configuring more than one interface
[18:21] <paco1> hello all!
[18:21] <paco1> i have a question: how to convert "cpu user time" to "real time"? thanks in advance!
[18:22] <smoser> paco1, not really possible
[18:23] <smoser> where do you see "cpu user time" ?
[18:23] <paco1> for example
[18:23] <paco1> i use sa command
[18:23] <sarnold> probably as opposed to cpu system time..
[18:24] <sarnold> or nice time
[18:24] <paco1> sa -u | grep paco | egrep "soffice.bin" > paco       3.02 cpu    49728k mem      0 io soffice.bin
[18:25] <ztane> paco1: what do you mean by cpu user time, cpu user time is in cpuseconds
[18:26] <ztane> *i mean what do you mean by converting?
[18:26] <ztane> :D
[18:26] <ztane> cpu user time is exactly that, the real amount of time that one cpu has worked for the process during its lifetime
[18:27] <paco1> that's seems to be a strange time
[18:30] <ztane> you just do not make sense, how do you convert seconds to seconds
[18:31] <sarnold> paco1: what about those times don't make sense?
[18:31] <zul> smoser/adam_g: im going to upload a new python-keystoneclient in the next couple of minutes to fix the requests stuff
[18:31] <shauno> probably best if you ask what you're actually trying to achieve.  cpu time is a red herring.  eg, "ps -eo pid,cmd,etime" will give you elapsed time (etime)
[18:31] <sarnold> paco1: did you expect openoffice to consume far more cpu? or far less?
[18:32] <paco1> no, i would like to know the time i use my programs
[18:33] <paco1> and what hour i open them and what hour i close them
[18:33] <sarnold> aha! :)
[18:33] <paco1> ;)
[18:34] <paco1> if you have a solution....
[18:34] <jacobw> hamster
[18:35] <paco1> its for that i searched with sa, acct and ac command
[18:35] <jacobw> http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/
[18:36] <sarnold> paco1: ps -e -o pid,start_time
[18:37] <sarnold> paco1: that of course only shows you the start time of currently executing programs
[18:37] <shauno> if you're doing process accounting, the trick missing from your list is 'lastcomm'.  which will show you the last time a process was invoked, and how long it lasted
[18:37] <sarnold> paco1: if you ran a similar command every few minutes, you could build a datastructure that knows when programs were running
[18:38] <sarnold> shauno: awesome. :)
[18:39] <shauno> ah, that uses cpu time too :/  I can only find etime for a running process.  awkward.
[18:41] <sarnold> aww.
[18:41] <paco1> etime?
[18:41] <ztane> paco1: if you are talking about desktop usage, there is a program already in ubuntu...
[18:41] <ztane> can track your active window too
[18:41] <ztane> cant remember
[18:41] <ztane> which one though
[18:41] <RoyK> shauno: if it's about execution time, ps or top will help out
[18:41] <shauno> lastcomm --debug has it, the 5th value is elapsed in hundredths of a second.  but that seems more accidental than intuitive
[18:41] <shauno> ps has it while the process is running, not afterwards
[18:42] <RoyK> well, yeah
[18:42] <shauno> if he wants a start time & a finish time, it has to be post-mortem
[18:42] <RoyK> use "time somecmd"
[18:42] <sarnold> RoyK: he wants the system to collect the times of day that programs are run
[18:43] <RoyK> oh
[18:43] <RoyK> is there something like process accounting in ubuntu (or on linux?)
[18:43] <paco1> sarnold: exactly
[18:44] <sarnold> RoyK: there is, but it only knows about processes _after_ they die, and doesn't record the start time and stop time, iirc
[18:44] <paco1> ztane: if you remember the name.... ;)
[18:46] <shauno> I think you're going the right direction with acct, it's just not a very intuitive tool
[18:47] <sarnold> the downside to acct is that it only knows about processes once they have died :)
[18:47] <paco1> shauno: "it's just not a very intuitive tool"....yes, i see it...  :/
[18:47] <sarnold> you just can't win. hehe.
[18:47] <RoyK> I guess process accounting and perhaps using ulimit for some users may be good?
[18:48]  * RoyK tried to use ipf for firewalling on openindiana and found iptables *very* nice and intuitive in comparison
[18:49] <sarnold> RoyK: hehe, after my initial ipfwadm experience, I really _learned_ firewalling on ipf and pf. I never got the hang of iptables afterwards :(
[18:50] <shauno> lastcomm shows it in the debug record, so the info is there /somewhere/ .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1637201/
[18:50] <RoyK> sarnold: hehe
[18:51] <sarnold> shauno: nice :D
[18:53] <shauno> 1000/1000 look like uid/guid, no idea what 3284 is, 17812 & 16334 look like the pid and the parent.  it's all there, just very terse
[18:56] <RoyK> shauno: what's happening? a lost process eating cpu?
[18:57] <shauno> paco1's query, I'm just looking to see if gnu acct has the answers he seeks
[18:58] <paco1> shauno: thanks
[18:58] <RoyK> paco1: what's happening? a lost process eating cpu?
[18:59] <RoyK> paco1: sometimes a server is rooted and a rootkit is installed - it's not fun, but it happens...
[18:59] <sarnold> RoyK: < paco1> no, i would like to know the time i use my programs < paco1> and what hour i open them and what hour i close them
[18:59] <paco1> RoyK: no no, all is good. it's just for me
[19:00] <RoyK> ok
[19:00] <paco1> sarnold: yeah
[19:03] <paco1> RoyK: i'm looking for ac, sa and like shauno said lastcomm
[19:04] <zul> smoser: looks like we need a newer boto http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1637239/
[19:09] <zul> yolanda: ping where is wsme again?
[19:09] <zul> yolanda: doh never mind
[19:15] <paco1> lastcomm read the /var/log/account/pacct file?
[19:17] <param__> Unable to connect internet by wifi in ubuntu server ?
[19:22] <smoser> zul, what is test_api.py ?
[19:22] <zul> smoser:  tests the ec2 api
[19:22] <param__> Unable to connect internet by wifi in ubuntu server ?
[19:23] <paco1> i did a test with soffice > 2.44 secs??
[19:23] <paco1> with lastcomm command
[19:24] <paco1> 2.44 secs > how to read that?
[19:26] <smoser> zul, i dont think we need a new boto
[19:26] <smoser> i think that commit just sucked
[19:26] <zul> smoser:  could be
[19:28] <smoser> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19987/
[19:28] <smoser> thats what did it
[19:28] <smoser> specifically https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19987/6/nova/tests/test_api.py
[19:28] <smoser> and it seems simply broken
[19:31] <paco1> how can i interpret that result: 2.44 secs?
[19:32] <sarnold> paco1: that's probably the CPU time taken
[19:34] <sweettea> anyone familiar with this kvm error kvm: 1824: cpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[19:35] <sweettea> the guests seem to be running fine
[19:35] <yolanda> zul, do you still need me? sorry i disconnected for a while
[19:35] <sweettea> but its still uneasy
[19:35] <zul> yolanda: nope
[19:35] <paco1> sarnold: ok
[19:39] <sweettea> also, anyone use(d) sys_basher to test computer stability ?
[19:45] <tasslehoff> I followed a howto and got Time Machine backups to my Ubuntu 12.04.1 server working (avahi + netatalk). Now "something" has happened so my mac can no longer see any afp-shares. I have no idea how to figure out where the problem lies. Anyone here that do?
[19:48] <sarnold> tasslehoff: nothing beyond wondering if there are any informative error messages in logs on client or server :)
[19:52] <tasslehoff> sarnold: nay, all seems normal. but, I managed to connect from osx to afp://<server-ip>, so I suspect the issue is on the mac-side.
[19:53] <sarnold> I'm actually a little stunned that apple still supports the afp-style networking.
[19:54] <tasslehoff> sarnold: I don't know much about it, but since Time Machine is so ... accesible I decided to try setting it up.
[19:55] <tasslehoff> But, it won't take much trouble to make me use Crashplan or something else instead..
[19:56] <sarnold> tasslehoff: well, they do different things :) crashplan for the fire, time machine for the dead hard drive.. hehe
[19:56] <smoser> zul, can you easily test http://paste.ubuntu.com/1637380/
[19:56] <smoser> i suspect that will fix it.
[19:57] <zul> smoer: sure
[20:05] <tasslehoff> sarnold: yup, except I only use crashplan locally, since transatlantic transfer speeds are abysmal
[20:10] <zapotah> hi. is there a repo or such from which one could install the os from like in ie centos (http://mirror.academica.fi/CentOS/6.3/os/x86_64/)
[20:10] <zapotah> tried scouring the repo but didnt find it there, tried finding references from docs too
[20:14] <tonyyarusso> zapotah: you mean you're just trying to do a netinstall?
[20:15] <zapotah> got firmware that can boot http
[20:15] <zapotah> and i dont want to setup a local http boot server at this time
[20:16] <zapotah> with centos its as easy as booting that dir from the firmware
[20:18] <zapotah> just wondering if ubuntu repos or such have the same kind of thing somewhere
[20:20] <jcastro> utlemming: if you've got time, let's talk juju on the vagrant images
[20:22] <jcastro> zapotah: you're looking for the netboot directory? http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[20:22] <jcastro> substitute release or arch of course
[20:27] <zul> smoser: nope it doesnt
[20:29] <smoser> zul, it surely can't fail the same way.
[20:41] <zapotah> jcastro: that dir only contains the stuff to create your own boot server
[20:41] <sarnold> zapotah: are you looking for the mini net-install disc?
[20:42] <zapotah> no a http bootable repo dir or such, which im beginning to think does not exist for ubuntu
[20:42] <zapotah> centos has such a dir on their repo mirrors
[20:42] <zapotah> ie: http://mirror.academica.fi/CentOS/6.3/os/x86_64/
[20:42] <zapotah> you can boot an install straight from that
[20:42] <sarnold> zapotah: oh, they run a tftp node for you or something?
[20:43] <patdk-lap> easy, ipxe and netboot
[20:43] <patdk-lap> ipxe can easily boot from http
[20:43] <zapotah> what patdk-lap said
[20:43] <patdk-lap> still requires tftp or usb or something to load ipxe
[20:43] <zapotah> ipxe is in the rom
[20:44] <sarnold> patdk-lap++ :D
[20:44] <patdk-lap> zapotah, not fun to do, but maybe doable :)
[20:44] <zapotah> i think ill just jumpstart a httpd on the workstation next to me and extract the netinstall iso there....
[20:46] <zapotah> kinda weird ubuntu doesnt have http boot on their repos, or im looking in the wrong place...
[20:46] <jcastro> I am pretty sure I have done this before
[20:46] <jcastro> I think we're in the wrong place
[20:47] <zapotah> well im trying to find a ubuntu-server repo install dir so... :)
[20:48] <zapotah> i know very well how to make my own http boot server (theres not much to do there though...) but wondering if there was an option
[21:03] <zapotah> apparently such a convenient way to install does not exist for ubuntu... shame
[21:11] <tyhicks> hallyn: Hey - Are there any known libvirt issues when upgrading from quantal to raring?
[21:12] <tyhicks> hallyn: libvirt forgot about most (but not all) of my domains. The XML and images were still around so I was able to virsh define them again.
[21:14] <tyhicks> hallyn: Additionally, I'm seeing some brokenness around the dnsmasq instances spawned by libvirt
[21:14] <tyhicks> hallyn: I'm still debugging that, so I can't yet explain the problems very well
[21:18] <hallyn> tyhicks: that should not have happened
[21:18] <hallyn> tyhicks: is this fully uptodate raring?
[21:18] <tyhicks> hallyn: yes, used update-manager to do the upgrade from quantal to raring last night
[21:18] <hallyn> there was a network-manager bug which caused virbr0 to not get an ip address, but that's different
[21:19] <hallyn> tyhicks: please file bugs, afaik those are not known
[21:19] <hallyn> zul: ^ ring a bell?
[21:19] <esuave> anyone know how i can get crontab -e to execute a commit to svn on :wq?
[21:19] <tyhicks> hallyn: ok
[21:19] <zul> hallyn: nope
[21:20] <sweettea> here is a dumb question, how can i use apt-get to search for packages for me
[21:20] <sweettea> on rhel
[21:20] <sweettea> its yum list http*
[21:22] <RoyK> apt-cache search ...
[21:22] <hallyn> zul: also bug 1121917 sounds like a fun libvirt-lxc one
[21:23] <sweettea> wow how did I miss that on the man page
[21:23] <sweettea> ty
[21:23] <hallyn> stgraber: ^ did you mean to still have that assigned to you as it pertains to ifenslave?  or did you want to punt that altogether?
[21:23] <zul> hallyn:  then dont do that :)
[21:24] <sweettea> RoyK: is it me, or is that not on the man page
[21:24] <RoyK> sweettea: I don't think the apt-get manpage lists apt-cache other than under "SEE ALSO"
[21:25] <RoyK> no, it doesn't
[21:25] <sweettea> Invalid operation search
[21:25] <RoyK> apt-cache, not apt-get
[21:25] <sweettea> ohh, my fault
[21:25] <sweettea> thank you
[21:26] <RoyK> np
[21:26] <hallyn> zul: dont' do which, use libvirt-lxc?
[21:26] <stgraber> hallyn: hmm, I should have unassigned when I moved it to libvirt
[21:27] <zul> hallyn:  kind of :)
[21:27] <RoyK> sweettea: to install apache, apt-get install apache2
[21:27] <hallyn> stgraber: ok, wasn't sure if you were goin gto keep looking
[21:27] <hallyn> thx
[21:27] <RoyK> sweettea: perhaps some more if you want php and related libs
[21:29] <stgraber> hallyn: I'm pretty sure I'm not doing anything obviously wrong in ifenslave-2.6 and in theory a container shouldn't be able to access the list of bond interfaces nor mess with its members. One case where that'd happen is if sysfs is mounted before the change of netns but we'd have seen other bugs if that was the case
[21:29] <hallyn> stgraber: yeah i have no idea
[21:29] <hallyn> will have to look later - i'd believe they're doing some new in libvirt
[21:29] <hallyn> new being a codeword
[21:30] <stgraber> #define new WRONG
[21:30] <hallyn> i didn't say THAT
[21:50] <ffunenga> hello, can somebody help me? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/64468/how-do-i-install-libgtk-3-dev-in-elementaryos
[21:52] <sarnold> ffunenga: try "apt-cache policy libgtk-3-dev
[21:53] <sarnold> ffunenga: .. and the same command for the other packages mentioned there
[21:53] <sarnold> ffunenga: perhaps you'll be able to spot something with the output that helps you solve the situation
[21:53] <ffunenga> sarnold, ok! I'll try it now
[22:05] <sweettea> RoyK: thanks, I was more wondering on what I do when I forget the package name
[22:07] <RoyK> sweettea: the search thing in yum sucks rather badly - apt-cache takes regex and works far better
[22:07] <RoyK> and faster
[22:07] <RoyK> using a local index instead of updating from the net on every search
[22:07] <sweettea> like eix on gentoo
[22:07] <sweettea> understood
[22:07] <sweettea> ty
[22:08] <sweettea> im migrating off rhel and its a learning process
[22:08] <RoyK> I know
[22:08] <RoyK> I've been forced to use more rhel/centos lately, and it's a learning process that too
[22:16] <ffunenga> sarnold, this is what I get
[22:16] <ffunenga> https://gist.github.com/ffunenga/4758116
[22:16] <ffunenga> what does the code "500" means?
[22:22] <sarnold> ffunenga: are you missing a 'precise-updates' line in your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[22:24] <ffunenga> sarnold, "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep precise-updates" does not return anything
[22:27] <sarnold> ffunenga: take a look at the "Repositories" section here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Repositories
[22:28] <sarnold> ffunenga: you'll probably want to add -updates or -security or both to your apt sources.list -- and you'll want to make sure that you pick the ones that match whichever componenents you want (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) ...
[22:29] <sarnold> ffunenga: .. (there may be better descriptions of the pockets and components -- you certainly don't need to understand everything in that section!)
[22:31] <paco1> ztane: If one day you find the name of the soft (like you said: "if you are talking about desktop usage, there is a program already in ubuntu..."), advise me, please. thank you very much! ;)
[22:31] <paco1> ....and thank you all for your help :D
[22:31] <sarnold> paco1: bye :)
[22:32] <paco1> sarnold: not yet for me ;)
[22:32] <paco1> Just to thank you for your help
[22:33] <sarnold> paco1: oh! okay :) hehe
[22:37] <ffunenga> sarnold, omg! lol I had only security updates enabled...
[22:38] <sarnold> ffunenga: woo :)
[22:39] <ffunenga> I've enabled precise-updates, and now its finally working! lol I am noob, no doubt about it.
[22:39] <sarnold> ffunenga: excellent :)
[22:58] <paco1> sarnold: what do you think about dump-acct?
[23:00] <paco1> dump-acct /var/log/account/pacct | awk -F'|' '{ print $1 $2 $3 $4 "|" $5 "|" $6 "|" $7 "|" $8 "|" $9 "|" $10 "|" $11 "|" $12 "|" $13}' | egrep "firefox|soffice"
[23:01] <paco1> arrff....give me tambien cpu time.... :/
[23:03] <sarnold> paco1: try this: dump-acct /var/log/account/pacct | awk -F'|' '{print $1 $11 "\t" $5/100 " seconds"}'
[23:11] <sweettea> how does one save the current iptables rules so they will work upon reboot?
[23:11] <paco1> sarnold: $5 > it's the "cpu time" you divide?
[23:20] <sarnold> paco1: I dont think it is CPU time, but elapsed time
[23:20] <sarnold> paco1: or, at least, shauno pointed it out as execution time, and a "sleep 5" shows "500" there...
[23:21] <shauno> and if sleep(1) is using cpu time, we have bigger issues
[23:30] <paco1> shauno: yep
[23:35] <sarnold> shauno: hehe, yeah :D
[23:43] <paco1> man dump-aact > --ahz  Use specified units of time to display data from other kernel versions and architectures.
[23:43] <paco1> i don't understand that option....
[23:44] <sarnold> paco1: the acct files record time in units of hz
[23:44] <sarnold> paco1: some machines had 100 hz (ticks per second)
[23:44] <sarnold> paco1: some had 60, some had 200, some had 256, some had 1000 ...
[23:45] <paco1> ok! thanks!
[23:45] <sarnold> paco1: so if you were reading an acct file on a different machine than the one that generated it, you might need to tell the tools what Hz had been in use on that system (yes, really!)
[23:50] <paco1> ok!