/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/11/#ubuntu-us-mi.txt

derekvupdate pushed00:06
derekvnow remembers created event types as 'favorites'00:06
derekvhah, emacs : "A search is by defaut case insensitive, but if you input an upper case letter, it become case sensitive."00:11
Blazeixhey, don't knock it, i have that enabled in vim.00:12
Blazeixuseful as hell00:12
derekvBlazeix: the 'hah' was because I remember talking about it at CHC (in vim)00:15
derekvI was using it without thinking about it00:15
derekvBeen spending effort getting better at emacs this last week00:15
derekvfinding things I wish I could pull from vi00:16
derekvor things that I want that are "vi-ish" but wouldn't be directly from vi since the context wouldnt make sense00:16
derekvi'll have to be fixing that00:19
derekvi'm going to end up with some sort of crazy crap nobody else can use00:19
snap-lUNtil Linux Game Publishing turns off their DRM I'm never buying another one of their games. Ever.00:22
derekvim feeling some rsi from mbp only having alt key on left00:29
derekvso glad I did this00:56
derekvam doing this00:56
rick_h_derekv: doing what?01:11
jcastrohttp://blog.makezine.com/2013/02/06/diresta-reclaimed-wood-table/03:06
jcastrorick_h_: ^^^03:06
derekvrick_h_: making a web app/platform.  doing it in a new framework. doing it in python04:18
derekvbut next web app is going to be clojure or hunchentoot05:06
derekvunless somethign else comes front and center05:06
derekvfrankly i'm not sure why i should reformat my data before sending it to the templating part05:07
derekvwaste of my time05:07
derekvI have a pretty low tolerance for doing things I feel like a computer can do for me05:12
derekvnvm figured it all out06:05
snap-lI think I'm getting cranky in my old age.12:55
snap-lhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2013-February/006202.html12:55
jcastroyou're cranky at every age bracket. :p13:36
rick_h_jcastro: cool on the table. There's a guy that does sheds and such from reclaimed lumber I'm hoping I can get to do our shed this summer13:37
rick_h_would be cool to have some old barn timbers as the shed13:37
jcastroyeah13:39
jcastroit just looks awesome13:39
jcastrolol I bet a table like that is like 4 grand @ pottery barn13:39
rick_h_oh come on, only $2k13:40
shakes808Good morrrow peoples13:40
rick_h_peoples are peoples13:40
ColonelPanic001hi13:45
snap-ljcastro: Yeah, I suppose. :)14:06
snap-lHm, I'm pretty sure a mail from gmail doesn't go through Amazon EC2. What do you think?14:18
jcastroprobably not14:21
rick_h_origination smtp server?14:22
rick_h_e.g. depends on who the email is from I would think14:22
snap-lhttp://paste.mitechie.com/show/addx3pJbZlswwYEfb4b7/14:22
jcastrohow do I quickly center something14:22
jcastrois <center> still hip?14:22
rick_h_<div style="text-align: center"></div>14:23
jcastrota14:23
jcastrolooks like the person is relaying through postfix on ec2?14:23
rick_h_or better, in your css .center { text-align: center } with <div class=center>...14:23
snap-ljcastro: Only through meditation can we center something14:23
jcastroYou can send 2,000 messages for free each day when you call Amazon SES from an Amazon EC2 instance directly or through AWS Elastic Beanstalk. Many applications are able to operate entirely within this free tier limit.14:24
jcastrooh neat, I didn't know they did free tier for sending mail14:24
rick_h_last I read you had to have uploaded a list of addresses you plan to send email to first14:25
rick_h_kind of a whitelist thing or something14:25
snap-lYeah, this is pretty targeted14:25
snap-lSomeone asking if I'm the site manager for my domain14:25
jcastrooh14:25
jcastroso spam14:25
snap-lYeah, but persistent14:25
jcastrooh sorry, targetted commercial email14:25
jcastrospam.14:25
snap-lSame difference14:26
rick_h_or someone that just hopes to buy your domain/etc14:26
snap-lProbably some schmuck who wants me to put an infographic on my site14:26
snap-lwhich then turns into something else.14:26
snap-lWas just going to respond until I decided to check headers14:26
snap-lNow I have a spiffy Amazon case number, and hopefully someone will get their instance yanked.14:27
jcastroyup14:27
jcastrojrwren: where did your upstart question go?14:50
rick_h_any greader users seeing this? http://r.bmark.us/u/b2c6792893dc6f15:01
* rick_h_ quivers in his boots15:01
brouschrick_h_: Mine seems normal15:05
snap-lI've abandoned greader15:07
jcastrotheoldreader.com15:21
snap-lI'm using rss2email15:24
dzho> These people, self included, may be holdouts from a previous era of the web – a time when there weren’t Twitters and Flipboards and Google+’s, even, for social news reading and sharing.15:44
dzhogfoml15:44
dzhoer, gtfoml15:44
dzhoI'm from a previous era of the web when we didn't have RSS feeds.15:45
snap-lI think after our next reapproval (Oct. 2013) I'll need to pass the reigns of contact off to someone else.16:33
_stink_we'll all happily ignore that resignation, thanks very much16:34
snap-lHeh. :)16:34
snap-lHey, if the pope can resign... ;)16:34
_stink_yeah16:34
_stink_i was trying really hard to think of a pope joke16:34
snap-lMuch like the pope, I'd like to spend more time with my family. ;)16:35
snap-lActually, the real reason is because I'm feeling angsty about the whole loco process16:36
snap-land I'd rather not have my personal feelings about it affect the loco16:38
_stink_maybe we can vote to authorize a rant.16:38
_stink_by you16:38
snap-lHeh16:38
rick_h_it is time for new blood16:38
snap-lPerhaps.16:39
rick_h_I think most of us have cared beyond the ubuntu part of things. We've just turned it into our techie social club16:39
snap-lrick_h_: Definitely16:39
* greg-g nods16:40
greg-gef theoldreader, use NewsBlur instead! (www.newsblur.com)16:40
snap-lThe discussion about the terminology of Sponsored vs. ??? on the loco contacts list got me thinking about it again16:40
greg-ghttp://greggrossmeier.newsblur.com/16:40
greg-gsnap-l: I have happily not seen that, I only saw larua c's blog post on it16:41
snap-lgreg-g: Well, it got me thinking about why we even have an approval process16:41
greg-gfree shit16:42
greg-gmark's money16:42
greg-gfsmm16:42
snap-lbecause the only reasons I still even care about the team reports and reapproval are for the CDs and any odd prestige that might come from it16:42
greg-g(not "flying spaghetti monster, man")16:43
* greg-g nods16:43
rick_h_they have an approval process because the locos have the oppertunity to be a vocal bit of Ubuntu community and they need to be able to disavow all connections if it's abused16:43
snap-lAnd if that's the only reason we're still keeping approval, perhaps it's time to let it lapse.16:43
snap-lI really don't know16:43
rick_h_I think for them locos are marketing/education/community arm16:43
greg-gthey could disavow without the approval process, no loco is given more official weight than your random joe schmoe16:43
rick_h_and we're not really fitting that16:43
greg-gbut yeah, arms length and all that16:44
rick_h_greg-g: agree, but for the locos that do the super stuff, it's nice to get logos, be able to talk to a space about hosting an event and having some legitimacy16:44
greg-gright, we definitely aren't doing the things that the original idea for locos thought about: running ubuntu confs, doing outreach events (I don't think our release parties count ;) )16:44
greg-grick_h_: yeah, def16:44
snap-lheh16:45
rick_h_so that's why I mean that new blood with an interest in pursuing the missing might be in order16:45
snap-lWell, we do some outreach16:45
rick_h_and if there's no interest in that...well...16:45
* greg-g nods16:45
snap-lI'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this way.16:46
_stink_but where will my third irssi window idle???16:46
* _stink_ panics16:46
snap-lWe're not going anywhere16:46
rick_h_3rd?!16:47
_stink_status, waynestatelug, ubuntu-us-mi16:47
_stink_sorry!16:47
snap-l_stink_: You should add mugorg to that list. ;)16:47
* rick_h_ wonders if he can close #r any time soon16:47
snap-land coffeehousecoders16:47
_stink_snap-l: you have seen my activity lately. :)16:47
_stink_er16:47
_stink_like for the last 3 years16:47
* snap-l closed out #sourceforge, #severedfifth, and #ubuntu-community-teams16:48
dzhoyeah, the decision not to try to set up a non-profit umbrella for loco orgs really took the wind out of my sails early on16:48
dzhoheavy process makes sense if you have something like that, less so without it16:48
snap-ldzho: Non-profit statuses can get tricky16:48
dzhosnap-l: yeah16:48
snap-lSeems any time you fiddle with tax code, shit gets real16:49
dzhowell, shit is real when my ass is hauling down the highway to an event, too.16:49
snap-lheh16:49
dzhomind, I haven't done as much of the heavy lifting for -ny-us as a friend of mine.16:49
rick_h_international tax codes...16:50
dzhoso some of this is about what he gets out of what he has put in, too.16:50
snap-lOh definitely16:50
dzhoIsle of Man tax codes ;-)16:50
snap-lAnd part of this is because I don't think the team reports are that useful, but it seems some bit of code is preventing a process change.16:51
dzhoa bit of . . . code?16:51
dzhoseems if ever there was a time to quote "use the source" this would be it.16:51
dzhobut then again, this is "our business process software is proprietary" Canonical so who knows?16:52
snap-lWhich I know is a silly thing to get upset about, but it feels like yet another process we need wade through to please folks that ultimately means nothing16:52
rick_h_woot! first text on the pebble16:54
snap-lhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2013-February/006168.html (thread begins here)16:54
rick_h_awesome16:54
snap-lrick_h_: It showed up?16:54
rick_h_snap-l: yea, showed up today. Charging it up and wife just texted me16:54
rick_h_wheee with ifttt17:00
snap-lAwesome.17:01
snap-lWish I had some mad money: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sparetimegizmos/classic-pdp8-replica17:11
rick_h_hah cool17:11
snap-lI've played a little bit with an emulator, and couldn't make head or tail out of it.17:13
greg-gINBOX ZERO (work account) !!!!!17:19
greg-gnow all I have is:17:20
greg-ggreg@x220:~$ task list proj:cc17:20
greg-gID Project Pri Due       Active Age Description17:20
greg-g80 cc.end  H   2/11/2013        18h write a thank you note for mako, leave with val17:20
greg-g81 cc.end  H   2/11/2013        18h format x22017:20
greg-g63 cc.end  M   2/11/2013         9d clean office desk17:20
greg-g58 cc.lrmi H   2/12/2013        10d finalize TOCCON preso with Michale Jay17:20
greg-g(sorry for the spamming, I'm excited)17:21
rick_h_lol, go greg-g go17:21
snap-lWhat? No contexts? :)17:38
* greg-g never got the hang of contexts17:42
greg-gI mean, I'm always by my computer when I'm looking at this list....17:42
* greg-g may misunderstand contexts17:42
greg-gall I know about them is what I've read from your blog, snap-l  ;)17:42
snap-lgreg-g: Oh god.17:46
snap-lgreg-g: Yeah, they're essentially collections of next actions by the area in which they can be done17:47
snap-lso just before you're going to do errands, you could either print out a list of @errands, or carry a device with them on it17:47
rick_h_lol, just got my pebble has shipped email18:44
* jjesse is so jealous18:44
rick_h_can't recall the last time the email arrived after the device18:45
jjesseyou have your pebble already?18:45
rick_h_fedex is faster than the internet18:45
rick_h_jjesse: https://twitter.com/mitechie/status/30100439384996659618:45
jjessecurses18:45
jjessewonder when mine will arrive18:45
rick_h_well, don't wait for the email lol18:46
rick_h_jjesse: what day were you on?18:46
jjessehow do i confirm or figure that out?18:46
rick_h_hmm, there was a link about it at one point. You have to look at your history on kickstarted for the day you submitted your $$18:47
jjesseprobably way late i pledged in april18:47
rick_h_so in kickstarter go to your 'backer history'18:47
rick_h_I did 04/13/201218:47
jjesse04/18/201218:47
rick_h_yea, so going to be a bit.18:48
rick_h_there was a way to get a chart that's day by day number of pledges18:50
jjesseso maybe i will have mine in 5 days?18:50
rick_h_no, it's all about the number they can make/ship. Some days there's 3x the backers of another day18:50
rick_h_it's taken them weeks to get to me and I'm on the first full day18:50
jjesseyeah and i remember they have a delay due to chinese new year or something like that?18:51
rick_h_http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/597507018/pebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android/#chart-daily18:51
greg-gsnap-l: yeah, I'm not organized enough to do the print/device thing. Mostly because I don't have a printer and using a device in front of Rowan is a recipe for disaster18:51
rick_h_so the top chart shows counts of day by day backers.18:51
greg-gsnap-l: I mean, theoretically I would18:51
greg-gsnap-l: I'm waiting with whetted lips for the taskwarrior android client18:51
jjesseso it looks like on the the 18th 5526 people pledged18:52
jjesseor something like that18:52
rick_h_jjesse: right, but the people in front of yuo get theirs first18:52
jjesseoh yeah i understand that18:52
rick_h_except they've only done black so far and starting colors one at a time18:52
rick_h_so while I was on the 14th, some people ahead of me ordered a diff color so I win18:52
rick_h_hopefully they get the kinks worked out.18:53
rick_h_still bummed ifttt isn't fully there nor a sdk. Latest sdk news was from last sept :(18:53
snap-lgreg-g: I use todosh and the Android client19:03
snap-lYou have to use Dropbox for it, but that's something I'm doing already.19:03
* greg-g nods19:06
* greg-g likes taskwarrior too much to switch right now19:06
greg-gI wrote a few stupid lame, but useful, weekly bash scripts to do simple reporting in rST19:06
snap-lOnly problem I have with tw is the project names are too short19:06
snap-lI create a separate list under todosh with the tag +project to denote them as projects19:07
jcastroI am pretty much living in trello for my stuff19:08
jcastroit's just too awesome19:08
rick_h_jcastro: +119:08
snap-lDoes Trello scale?19:08
jcastroscale how?19:08
rick_h_does it scale to snap-l 10min interval scale19:09
snap-lI have 87 projects19:09
jcastrooh, I dunno, you could make 87 boards19:09
jcastroand use the search I guess19:09
greg-gblugh19:09
greg-gthat sounds unfun19:09
* greg-g hugs taskwarrior19:09
snap-land each of them has contexts that can be aggregated into one spot?19:10
jcastroseriously, 87 projects, are you working on the large hadron collider or something?19:10
snap-ljcastro: No, I'm working on life. ;)19:10
greg-gthe medium hadron collider19:10
greg-gor, maybe a better joke19:10
greg-gthe super size me version19:10
rick_h_he needs the kitty litter trello board and the march dinner supplies board and ...19:10
jcastro"remember to eat"19:10
snap-lYou laugh, but the kitty litter thing was a project19:10
rick_h_yep, laughing...19:11
jcastroman dude, recurring amazon subscription yo.19:11
jcastroI don't have to remember jack, some days toilet paper just shows up here19:11
snap-ljcastro: You haven't seen my new litter box19:11
rick_h_"what are we going to do tonight Brain?" ... "Try to complete project kitty litter this weekend"19:11
snap-lIt's a thing of beauty19:11
jcastrohttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008F89SG6/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i0119:12
jcastroI just got the coolest rush shirt19:12
jcastrocheck the back out snap-l19:12
snap-lNice!19:12
rick_h_http://www.zweitag.de/en/blog/ruby-on-rails-vulnerable-to-mass-assignment-and-sql-injection *sigh* this reminds me of NC dude wanting to write his application in yaml19:51
brouschIs that a new one or the same as last week?19:52
rick_h_looks like new one19:52
rick_h_in json vs yaml19:52
jcastrosnap-l: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kRWwxCPyjw21:26
greg-grick_h_: http://www.amazon.com/Reverence-Wood-Eric-Sloane/dp/0486433943 came across my feed from freecabinporn.com21:37
greg-ghuh, he has a few interesting books: http://www.amazon.com/Eric-Sloane/e/B001H6S1W0/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_121:43
snap-ljcastro: Awesome.21:46
jcastroCD sold out, itunes only. :(21:46
snap-ljcastro: Had to look up the drummer. Thought it might have been Raymond Hererra21:46
snap-ljcastro: Oh well. :)21:46
jcastroI thought it was Tom Araya, lol21:46
jcastrohttps://twitter.com/JasonCNewsted/status/269928512733970432/photo/121:46
jcastrosigh, even Jason has left me21:47
snap-ljcastro: How so?21:47
snap-lOK, I can't get it on Amazon?21:48
jcastronope21:48
snap-lSomeone's gonna pay21:48
jcastroitunes only. :(21:48
snap-lI hope it's only a matter of time for it to show up elsewhere21:48
snap-lotherwise, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr21:49
jcastrohe's selling 8x10 signed glossies for like 4 bucks, I wanted to get that with the CD21:49
snap-lHe's a damn fool if it's itunes only for digital distro21:50
jcastroI'm hoping it's just an oversight by some paid industry douche21:50
snap-lYeah21:51
jcastroJason wouldn't keep you from metal on purpose21:51
snap-lThough there are some musicians who think itunes = world21:51
jcastroyeah but they suck21:51
jcastrodid you see what the drummer of the black keys said about beiber?21:51
jcastroit's loltastic21:52
snap-lNo, I didn't.21:52
jcastrobasically everyone is talking about how bieber got "snubbed" for not getting a grammy nomination this year21:52
jcastroand the drummer of the black keys was like "grammys are about music, not money"21:52
jcastroLOL21:52
snap-lUm, actually they're about people who still take Rolling Stone magazine seriously21:52
snap-land are still pissed at Dylan for going Electric.21:53
jcastronot like the grammys are about music anyway21:53
snap-lSeriously, the Metal award was pre-televised21:53
jcastroyeah21:53
snap-land guess who won21:53
snap-lI'll give you a hint:21:53
jcastrohttp://www.tmz.com/2013/02/11/patrick-carney-the-black-keys-justin-bieber-grammys/21:54
jcastroit wasn't megadeth or maiden21:54
jcastrothey were nominated I saw21:54
snap-lNominations were: Marilyn Manson, Iron Maiden, Anthrax, Megadeth, Lamb of God21:54
snap-land some metal-country crossover21:54
snap-lwith a female vocalist.21:54
snap-lWinner: Not Marilyn Manson, Iron Maiden, Anthrax, Megadeth, Lamb of God21:55
jcastrohttp://www.tmz.com/2013/02/11/patrick-carney-the-black-keys-justin-bieber-grammys/21:55
jcastrooops, wrong paste21:55
jcastrosome band called Halestrom21:55
snap-lYep.21:55
snap-lListen to their song21:55
snap-lIt's catchy21:55
jcastrowrong megadeth song got nominated21:55
snap-lThrow in a slide guitar, and you'd rock the fuck out of the country station21:56
jcastrothat's like the worst one on the new album21:56
snap-lAnd hey, it's not like Iron Maiden released a classic album or anything21:56
jcastroit was an old song on a new live record, lame.21:56
snap-land Anthrax released a decent foray21:57
jcastrohey this is pretty good21:57
jcastrolol, another one tom drummer, hate those guys21:57
snap-lMeh, no opinion there21:57
snap-lmeans he thinks he's a jazz drummer21:57
jcastroWhen Lars went from 4 toms to 2 is when they went downhill.21:57
jcastrothere's a direct correlation between number of tomtoms and how metal you are.21:58
snap-lWhen Lars wasn't snorting coke off of his cymbals is when they went downhill21:58
snap-lNothing to do with toms21:58
jcastrothe zombie song on the anthrax album is better than the nominated one, but it's still good21:59
snap-lhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_for_Best_Metal_Performance21:59
snap-lI'm seeing a pattern here.21:59
jcastroSpoonman22:00
jcastroyeah, that's metal. @_@22:00
snap-lOh totally22:01
snap-ljcastro: So, how about that Halestorm.22:03
jcastropretty good22:03
snap-lGive it another listen22:04
snap-land this time think about country line dancing.22:04
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