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Squirmmorning Kilos 05:03
Kiloshi Squirm and others05:04
magespawngood monday all05:30
Kiloshi magespawn 05:38
magespawnwhats up Kilos?05:52
Kilosnot much magespawn and there05:52
magespawnsame old, same old05:52
magespawnit was very hot here yesterday, and looks like to day is going to another scorcher06:30
Kiloshmm... that place can cook06:31
Kiloslo ludo jrgns 06:50
Kilosmorning superfly inetpro 06:50
superflymorning Kilos, magespawn, Squirm06:51
jrgnsmorning Kilos, all06:51
Squirmhello jrgns magespawn superfly 06:51
magespawnhey Squirm superfly jrgns06:52
superflyaloha06:52
jrgnshello Squirm magespawn :)06:55
inetprogood morning Kilos, and others07:05
deegee_1good morning everyone07:07
Kilosyo deegee_1 07:07
deegee_1yo yo yo Kilos ... whadup bro?07:08
Kilosall good here ty. purged vbox till i get a faster pc07:08
Kilosbut it worked slowly with 12.04 xp and 10.1007:09
deegee_1ok, at least you got a hand on how it works07:10
Kilosyes ty07:10
deegee_1np07:11
Kilosnow working on ians pc that dont even boot to bios07:11
Kilosmorning Vince-0 07:30
Vince-0Hi Kilos hoe gaan dit met jou07:39
Kiloshiya maiatoday 07:49
Kilosgoed dankie Vince-0 07:49
KilosBlonde walks into a store and tells the sales person they need curtains for their computer. The sales person replies," Why would you want that?" The blonde says," Duuuuh, cause it has windows."07:49
Kilosyo staticrat 07:55
staticratgood morning everyone, hey kilos07:55
staticratbeen playing with arp-scan07:57
staticratdoes anyone know how to output the results in txt?07:57
Kiloswhat is arp-scan07:58
Kilosscanner stuff07:58
staticratits a ip scanner 07:58
Kilosah07:58
staticratusing sudo arp-scan ip:mask07:59
staticratwould like to save the results in a txt file07:59
staticratMaaz, google arp-scan save to txt file07:59
Maazstaticrat: "Arp-scan help output - NTA-Wiki" http://www.nta-monitor.com/wiki/index.php/Arp-scan_help_output :: "Arp-scan User Guide - NTA-Wiki" http://www.nta-monitor.com/wiki/index.php/Arp-scan_User_Guide :: "arp-scan(1): ARP scanner - Linux man page" http://linux.die.net/man/1/arp-scan :: "Ubuntu Manpage: get-oui - Fetch the arp-scan OUI file from the IEEE ..."07:59
Maazhttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/get-oui.1.html :: "Ubuntu Manpage: get-ia…07:59
Vince-0Beware of Bid-or-buy and check out the seller properly before handing over payment. My friend bought an appendage enlarger and they sent him a magnifying glass with instructions to not use in direct sunlight07:59
staticratmaaz jou results is weak08:06
Maazstaticrat: Got it08:06
Kiloshow do you see the file now08:06
Kilosor isnt it saved at all08:07
staticratlol....dont find a doc to save results directly to txt file08:07
staticratbut apparently you can copy and paste in a terminal window08:07
staticratso copy results and paste in gedit :)08:08
Kilosya but save to desktop as is then look for something to open it with08:08
Kilosyou want to edit it?08:08
magespawnstaticrat you should be able to pipe the output to a text file08:08
staticrathi magespawn , how?08:08
staticratit would be easier to run a command and save the results to txt for later review08:09
magespawnnot too sure hold on a sec08:09
staticratthx08:09
Kilosit will be a command to pipe it08:09
Kilosthat upright thing08:10
staticratOk i'm still slow kilos...define "pipe it"?08:10
Kilos| thats a pipe methinks08:10
Kilosbits of command before and after08:10
Kilosthe pipe sends it to where you want it08:11
staticratoh ok08:11
magespawnlike so i think "sudo arp-scan ip:mask > myfilename.txt"08:12
Kilosvery clever linux is08:12
staticrati will test quickly magespawn thx08:13
magespawnKilos i think that pipe is for taking the results of one command and putting the into another command but i stand to be corrected on that08:13
Kilosyou too clever today magespawn 08:13
Kilosyes i remember something with grep\08:13
magespawnbrain is on fire 08:13
magespawnmaybe because of hluhluwe temps more than anything else08:13
staticratwicked thx magespawn that did the trick08:14
staticratnow we all know how 08:15
magespawnalso i thinnk if do this "sudo arp-scan ip:mask >> myfilename.txt" it add the output to the file already there08:15
staticratnice08:15
magespawnnote the double greater/less than08:15
magespawngotta go out later all08:16
Kilosgo safe magespawn 08:16
inetpromagespawn: that is not a pipe08:29
inetprothat is called redirection08:29
inetproredirecting output to a file rather than stdout 08:29
inetproand even Windows has that08:30
staticratuh man windows!!!08:37
staticratso got the txt file but guess what08:38
staticratnow windows cannot read it08:38
staticratscratch that08:39
* staticrat thinks he forgetting how to use a windows pc08:39
Kiloslol08:39
staticratwait I got another one 08:39
staticratso do you think it is possible to save the results from arp-scan to csv?08:40
staticratwould make it easy to import into excel :)08:40
* staticrat just typing his thoughts to get into the habit of documenting08:42
staticratalso asking Q then finding the results me self i.e. sudo arp-scan ip:mask > filename.csv does the same as txt08:43
staticratso I now have my results in csv format08:43
staticratkilos, will output results to a specified file always be saved to default dir /home?08:45
staticratwhen using terminal?08:45
Kilosnormally unless you tell it otherwise08:45
Kilosbut easy to find in home08:46
staticratcool08:47
staticratI have to say I am really starting to like working with ubuntu08:52
Kilosthats good08:52
staticratand that lpi manual help allot08:53
Kilosyeah lotsa info there08:54
Kilostoo much for me08:54
staticratlol08:56
staticratat least I found a place where I can ask Q when I get stuck..../me thanks everyone here08:57
Kilosthats why we are here. all ubuntu help is gladly give08:57
Kilosgiven too08:58
charl_good afternoon10:43
charl_Maaz: coffee on10:43
* Maaz puts the kettle on10:43
charl_Kilos: which desktop environment are you using right now? i've heard of more people moving to cinnamon10:43
MaazCoffee's ready for charl_!10:47
charl_Maaz: thanks10:52
Maazcharl_: No problem10:52
Kilosim using unity and kde charl_ 10:52
Kilosthey are too scared to accept the challenge10:52
Kilosboth are actually lekker once you get used to them10:53
staticratok so I am still on arp-scan ..... I see that it does not display every connected device to my network when running the following command:10:54
staticratarp-scan ip:mask or arp-scan --interface=eth0 192.168.1.0/2410:54
staticratmy dhcp is set to provide IP's from .100-254 but arp-scan only picks up 25 pc's on the network10:55
staticratthere about 40 missing10:55
Kilosouch10:56
staticratyip weird, angry IP scanner collects all data I am looking for10:56
staticratthis is just for learning exercise to use arp-scan10:57
Kilosare those other 40 switched on or they loafing10:57
staticratlol they on at most there should be 5 devices not showing 10:57
Kilosnot the firewalls blocking you?10:58
Kilosyou on sucks hey10:59
Kilostry with ubuntu11:00
Kiloshttp://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/2007/10/20/ip-and-port-scanning-using-nmap-network-mapper-in-ubuntu/11:00
staticratshould not be since the firewall also gets listed on the results and I am scanning from behind the fwl11:01
staticratI am scanning from ubuntu11:01
staticratwill check out nmap11:01
staticratKilos, ty this nmap works a bit better for me 11:21
staticratnow to play with the various commands11:21
* staticrat puts on his thinking cap11:21
Kilosnp. one needs to look through whats available and choose the one you find easiest11:21
Kilosdont forget man pages hey11:22
staticratoh ya I forgot about that....lol11:22
Kilosor maybe there is even a user guide one can download11:22
Kilosinetpro, wen jy?11:23
inetproKilos: met wat?11:23
Kilosmet wat jy doen man11:23
Kilossoek jy weer my epos addy11:23
Kilosi cant ask if youre winning the comrades if you are running the 2 oceans11:24
Kilosai! ek sukkel darem11:24
inetproKilos: I'm not in a race here11:25
Kiloshaha11:25
Kilosya ya11:25
Kiloswinning=accomplishing what you set out to do11:25
Kilosregardless of what it might be11:26
inetproKilos: oh that, I won that race long ago11:26
Kiloshehe twit11:26
Kiloswow satan was too much for him even11:28
Kilosoops11:28
Kilosthese popups one can read mess your head sometimes11:29
inetproKilos: ai, you talking about the pope resigning?11:30
Kilosya11:30
inetprowrong channel to talk about religion and politics11:30
Kilosyip i said oops11:30
inetprolol11:30
staticratquit11:58
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inetproif you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen13:59
inetprobaie warm in Pretoria13:59
Kiloshehe13:59
inetpromaybe I should move some place else13:59
Kilosclouds seemj to be building up to the south14:00
Kilosall over actually14:01
Kilosdo your rain dance quick before they blow away14:01
* Squirm pops in14:37
magespawnafternoon all14:52
magespawnMaaz tell staticrat backtrack 5 r3 http://www.backtrack-linux.org/backtrack/backtrack-5-r3-released/14:53
Maazmagespawn: Sure, I'll tell staticrat on freenode14:53
kbmonkeygreets14:57
Kiloshi kbmonkey 14:58
Kilosstorm hier inetpro 14:58
Kiloswb magespawn 14:58
kbmonkeygood to hear you getting some rain, Kilos 15:00
magespawnhey kbmonkey15:00
Kilosyeah but 2 drops so far. lets hope there are buckets more15:00
kbmonkeyhi magespawn 15:01
kbmonkeyits going to come down here soon15:01
Kilosand the pro will get wet on his bicycle15:02
Kilosstrong wind though, maybe it will blow past15:03
* Kilos cries15:03
Kiloshows you kbmonkey 15:03
Kilos?15:03
kbmonkeyfine lad, and yourself?15:03
Kilosgoodish ty15:03
kbmonkeyi am looking at that sakis3g you told me about long ago15:03
Kilosit works when nothing else does15:04
kbmonkeyi hope so :]15:04
KilosTrixar_za, is involved in it if im not mistaken15:04
Kilosmy prob was getting online to download the script15:05
Kiloshad to use cell as modem15:05
Trixar_zaWell, I altered it a bit and added 8ta to it15:05
Kilosgood man Trixar_za 15:06
Kilosworks fine here when i battle15:06
Trixar_zahttp://brenton.nom.za/sakis3g.gz if memory serves15:06
Trixar_zaand I'm using my nom.za domain because I lose it if I don't use it enough15:07
Trixar_za:P15:07
kbmonkeyah thanks Trixar_za, since i am on 8ta. I found it on a sourceforge page15:07
kbmonkeyokay i need to swap my sim out the phone into the dongle. brb.15:07
SquirmKilos: big storm here15:11
Kiloshere too Squirm and even raining15:11
Squirmit hailed15:11
Squirmlots of lightning15:11
Squirmnow just pretty heavy rain15:11
Kiloshailed is solid nitrogen15:11
Kilosgood for plants that arent crushed15:12
Kiloss/hailed/hail15:12
magespawnlater all home time now15:13
Kilostoods magespawn 15:15
Squirmwell the lightning certainly hasn't gone15:16
Squirmbye magespawn 15:16
superflyhahaha 15:21
superfly"good for the plants that aren't crushed"15:21
Kiloswb kbmonkey 15:22
kbmonkeyit works, thanks Kilos and Trixar_za !15:22
Trixar_zaNice15:22
kbmonkeyquestion: what device does it map to?15:22
Kilosit is good hey only you cant see the signal in nm15:22
Trixar_zaYou may want to configure a sakis3g.conf file to automate some of the process :P15:22
kbmonkeygreat, I'll edit the .conf15:23
Kilosdidnt you tick add optional15:23
Kilosthen you see it works on the modem15:23
kbmonkeyI did not see that optional setting Kilos 15:23
Kilosright in the beginning15:24
Kilosyou can um15:24
kbmonkeyah, its ttyHS315:24
Kilosswitch modem and more15:24
kbmonkeyfunny how wvdial did not detect it15:24
Kiloslol what OS you using that dont see modem15:24
Kilosmy 12.04 was like that but got it figured now15:25
Trixar_zaIt needs to be in /etc - It's one of it's weird things15:25
Kiloseven gppp didnt work15:25
kbmonkeyI think that it is kernel related Kilos 15:25
Kilosah15:25
Trixar_zaOh great, it's site is down15:26
Trixar_zalol15:26
kbmonkeyyes, I found it on a sourceforge page instead15:26
kbmonkeyvia the raspberrypi forums15:26
Kilosfound day before yesterday that installing os , rebooting then only plugin in the modem works15:26
Kilosi actually left you a message Trixar_za , few days ago. had to use cell and sakis was down15:27
kbmonkeynow to try add it to my vnstat so I can track my data usage...15:28
kbmonkeycos thats why I use the phone, to see my data diminish 15:28
Trixar_zaJust track ppp015:30
kbmonkeyalright, it looks like ppp0 is it. thanks everyone!15:30
Trixar_zashould work fine with vnstat15:30
Trixar_zaI use vnstat myself :P15:30
kbmonkeylove it15:31
kbmonkeynow I don't need to install network manager. yipee15:31
Trixar_zahttp://snipurl.com/sakis3g15:32
Trixar_zashould give you a rough idea15:32
Trixar_zathat goes in the /etc/sakis3g.conf file15:33
Trixar_za:p15:33
Trixar_zasakis3g does have it's own man file built in15:33
Trixar_zabut it's a pain to work through15:33
kbmonkeyI'll use that Trixar_za 15:34
Kiloskbmonkey, dont forget meet on the 18th15:35
Trixar_zaThose are the only three I need to be able to use the command sakis3g connect15:35
Trixar_zaWhich automatically connects without asking questions (except to become root)15:36
Trixar_zarunning sudo ./sakis3g connect fixes that root issue15:36
Trixar_za:P15:36
Kiloswow and you tell us now. i been going the hard way everytime15:37
Kilosand now you tell when nm is working kiff15:37
kbmonkeyone could put the sakis3g script in /usr/bin or /opt/, and add a visudo line so user can run it as root without a password prompt15:37
Trixar_zaYeah15:37
Trixar_zaWhich I have done :P15:37
kbmonkey:)15:37
Trixar_zaActually, there is sakis3g connect, sakis3g disconnect15:38
Trixar_zaand sakis3g toggle15:38
Trixar_zawhich does either of the two depending on if you're connected or not15:38
Trixar_zastart and stop works too15:39
Trixar_zasee sakis3g --help for the complete list15:39
Trixar_za:P15:39
Kilosactually its a great little tool15:39
Trixar_zaIt's a shame about it's creator not caring about it anymore15:40
Trixar_zaFirst the forums for it died and now the site15:40
Trixar_zaBut it is approaching 3 years of being out of date15:40
Trixar_zaEven my mod is only keeping back some of the tide against it15:40
Trixar_za:P15:40
Kilosdoesnt matter if it works and is online15:41
Trixar_zaMind you, mine has a more up to date device database15:41
kbmonkeywell it seems like the arch people still use it15:41
Trixar_zaThey would15:41
Trixar_zaBut the options for 3G are growing15:41
Kilosbeen offline for a week or more15:42
Trixar_zaconnman is another alternative15:42
Kilosyeah even 4g now whatever that is15:42
Trixar_zato network manager that is15:42
Kilosah thanks thats good to know too15:42
kbmonkeyyes that is good to know15:43
kbmonkeysince I don't use tray icons, I opt for apps that don't rely on that15:43
Kilosi musta done about 20 installs in total with 12.04 and kde before i got them working15:43
kbmonkeyyou are still on 12.04 Kilos?15:44
kbmonkeybecause I copied all the 12.04 repos from william this weekend. 15:44
kbmonkeyI thought it be nice to get those to you, somehow15:44
kbmonkeyabout 100GB15:44
Kilosyes kbmonkey tried 12.10 and didnt fancy it much with the fading windows and stuff15:44
Kiloswow15:44
Kilosdo they do postage COD15:45
Kilosthere was that game too15:45
Kilosand another thing15:45
Kilosoh ya your os15:46
kbmonkeyon sapo? hmm, I feel a carrier pidgeon with a usb stick will be safer. he he15:46
Kilosif they accept the postage being paid here then you can post them to me please15:46
Kiloshehe15:46
kbmonkeyI just need to find media to put it on15:46
Kilos100g is lots15:47
kbmonkeyyup15:47
kbmonkeysomeone asked why the locos nearer to you don't help you copy the repos15:47
kbmonkeyI do not know if you asked them though15:48
Kilosthere is so much in repos one never uses but how to decide what to remove is a job15:48
Kilosinetpro, klaar meer as 10mm15:49
Kiloshet jy nat gekry15:49
kbmonkeygoing offline to setup saki to be easier...15:51
Kiloshi Mezenir 15:56
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inetproKilos: ek's droog by die huis dankie16:00
inetproen nog niks hier nie16:01
Kilosmooi16:01
Kilosai!16:01
kbmonkeyso, I stopped it from prompting for the apn username by setting it to blank in the conf. 16:17
kbmonkeyI realize now I must make dinner and do some chores, so I can't play anymore right now16:18
Kiloshehe16:18
Kilosif you look at the gui version it tells you type in APN_user and APN_ something else too16:20
Kilospassword maybe16:20
kbmonkeyI set those in the .conf file, so now it doesn't ask anymore16:20
Kilosclever fella16:21
kbmonkeythey are blank for 8ta. I checked on their site16:21
kbmonkeynow for the chores. I'll try get back on later, but have some documents to read and lectures to watch.16:23
kbmonkeymonkeys work never done16:23
Kilosnp16:25
Kilosinetpro, 20mm en klaar nou lyk my16:32
magespawnevening all16:44
Kiloshi magespawn 16:45
magespawnlooks like apple locking down sandboxing http://www.zdnet.com/apples-new-wave-anti-malware-patent-takes-a-leaf-out-of-qubes-book-7000011118/16:48
magespawnyou guys have been chatty ne?16:50
Kilosyeah16:50
Kilosim trying to make a bootable usb with bios upgrade for ians pc whew16:52
magespawncan you do that with linux?16:54
Kilosfound this16:54
Kiloshttp://0sumgain.blogspot.com/2009/11/updating-motherboard-bios-from-ubuntu.html16:54
Kilostoo much work to try find a working floppy and then fit it there16:55
Kilosthing wont even boot to bios most of the time16:55
Kilosim sure it has a virus in16:55
Kilosgood battery and it starts booting the os then reboots and goes back to bios settings with error messages and all settings gone16:56
Kiloshopefully its not the bios chip that packed up16:57
magespawnwell flashing the bios should clear it, if it does17:01
nuvolario/ aloha17:14
nuvolarilo magespawn 17:14
nuvolarilo oom Kilos 17:14
magespawnhey nuvolari 17:14
Kiloslo nuvolari 17:19
Kilosyeah hope so mage. it was quite a fast pc even with 500m ram17:20
Kilos512. now 1.5g17:20
Kilosone of them core2 things 2.6g17:20
magespawni wonder if it is possible to replace those chips17:21
Kilosna too many tiny pins17:21
Kilossolder will run and fuse them17:22
Kilosi dont even know which is the bios chip17:24
magespawnon much older boards those chips were replaceable17:24
Kilosyeah i had some for 486 pcs17:25
magespawnusually has something to the effect written on top.17:25
Kilosthey were pluggable17:25
Kilosoh i look and see17:25
Kiloshere is the mboard http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_Detail.aspx?DetailID=827&MenuID=16&LanID=017:26
Kilosworth trying to fix i think17:26
Kilosand keeps me outa trouble with superfly 17:26
Kilosohi superfly 17:27
Kiloshehe17:27
Kiloswe hotter than you tomorrow magespawn 34/30°c17:29
Kilosim a bit scared though. if you dont get the bios upgrade right you throw the mboard away17:31
* Squirm can't stand18:14
Squirmlegs feel like jelly18:14
Kiloswhat you been doing?18:17
Squirm:(18:58
Squirm36:52 for the mile18:58
SquirmI'm sad now18:58
Kiloslol19:00
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:00
magespawnhah Kilos i'll give real day time dates19:00
Squirmand I've been playing squash19:00
Squirmnight19:00
magespawnup dates19:00
Kilos?mage19:01
Kilos? magespawn 19:01
magespawnreal time temp updates on the ground19:01
Kiloswhat you talking about19:01
Kilosoh19:01
Kiloshaha19:01
Kilosok see ya morrow19:01
magespawnmi4 ghost protocol = worlds longest apple advert19:02
magespawngood night all20:29

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