[00:00] <werzer23> sure I have a ubuntu box on aws and instead of using the elastic ip 123.432.345:8080/q?query_string I would like to just use the ip/q?query_string
[00:00] <kunji> tama92: Wait what?  Umm, could you kind of give a visual representation of your network and what ip things have
[00:00] <Sendoushi> smb working oh yeaaaahhh!!
[00:00] <tama92> I'm trying to know why my devices (android phone + tablet) can't connect when my computer's wifi is on :/
[00:01] <matlock> werzer23, what application is serving the content on 8080
[00:01] <werzer23> bottle.py
[00:01] <tama92> My gateway ip is 192.168.1.254
[00:01] <matlock> there must be some sort of setup in that application to change the port
[00:01] <kunji> tama92: and the computers ip?
[00:01] <werzer23> matlock:  is port 80 open?
[00:01] <tama92> The computer ip is 192.168.1.42/24
[00:01] <matlock> unless you want to setup port redirection from the outside -> in so it goes 80 -> 8080
[00:02] <werzer23> on my desktop ubuntu I can open it but I can not user 80
[00:02] <matlock> so you locally see it?
[00:02] <matlock> and no access from outside your network will be taking place?
[00:02] <kevinch> would it be safe to go rm -rf /var/lib/backuppc after I apt-get remove'd it?
[00:02] <werzer23> matlock: on my local version of the server
[00:03] <onitaL> dpkg -S /var/lib/backuppc first
[00:03] <tama92> There are some weird messages with cfg80211 in the logs too
[00:03] <kunji> kevinch: Probably, but try an apt-get purge of it first and see if that removes those
[00:03] <matlock> still trying to wrap my head around it. is this so you only can access it on port 80? or so that others connecting from outside can access it from port 80?
[00:03] <kevinch> okay
[00:03] <matlock> cause one has two solutions
[00:04] <matlock> the other has one
[00:04] <rocky_> how do i in synaptic package manager, select i386 version to be downloaded?
[00:04] <matlock> the one with one, is to find whatever setting defines the port it listens on in the app itself and change that..
[00:04] <kevinch> kunji: dpkg: warning: while removing backuppc, directory '/var/lib/backuppc/pc' not empty so not removed.
[00:04] <rocky_> how do i in synaptic package manager- for a particular package, select i386 version to be downloaded?
[00:04] <matlock> the other option would be to use port redirection on your router to nat the request on 80 to 8080
[00:05] <onitaL> lol
[00:05] <kunji> tama92: Hmm, so the devices will connect if your computer is not connect?  Is your computer doing DHCP maybe?  Try and see what dnsmasq is up to on your comp as well.
[00:06] <tama92> How do I do this ?
[00:06] <bean> rocky_, just use apt-get and append :i386 on the end of the package name
[00:06] <kunji> kevinch: Ok, should be safe to remove, but try just moving the stuff someplace else first, so then you can put it back if there is a problem.
[00:06] <kevinch> okay thanks
[00:06] <kevinch> that will free up half of my boot drive, excellent
[00:07] <werzer23> matlock:  so outside requests only connect to port 80
[00:07] <rocky_> bean, thank you
[00:07] <tama92> That's what I thought too, but I don't know how to check it
[00:07] <Platz> In xterm my meta-b and meta-f (alt-b and alt-f) are producing unicode gibberish instead of moving forward and backward on the bash cli.  but on urxvt it's working fine.  Any ideas on how to correct the behavior in xterm?
[00:07] <werzer23> bottle.py (a python server) says connection to 80 refused
[00:07] <matlock> werzer23, port redirection, what kind of router do you have and is the firmware stock?
[00:07] <thecodethinker> Has anyone got Dark Souls working under wine?
[00:07] <werzer23> matlock: its on amazon aws
[00:08] <bean> !appdb | thecodethinker
[00:08] <werzer23> error: [Errno 13] Permission denied
[00:08] <kunji> tama92: Hmm, for dnsmasq, run ps ax | grep dnsmasq  If the process is running I think the conf-dir it is using will be shown.  I would read that to see what it thinks it is up to.
[00:08] <bean> werzer23, permission denied when you try to do what? run a server on port 80?
[00:08] <kunji> tama92: I think there's another way to do DHCP besides dnsmasq, but i forget what it is
[00:08] <werzer23> bean: yes
[00:08] <thecodethinker> bean: people don't talk on #winehq... so I am asking here too.
[00:09] <bean> werzer23, only root can run things on ports below 1024, fwiw
[00:09] <werzer23> this is the most active irc channel ever
[00:09] <Senjai> !patience | thecodethinker
[00:09] <bean> thecodethinker, you didn't read the whole message then... search on app db
[00:09] <thecodethinker> Senjai: This is the third day I have asked the same question on winehq....
[00:09] <bean> thecodethinker, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=14458 easy google
[00:10] <Senjai> thecodethinker: then post on a forum
[00:10] <thecodethinker> bean: I did, followed the guide, and it didn't work
[00:10] <tama92> There's indeed a dnsmasq process running, the configuration directory (--conf-dir) is empty
[00:10] <p201> Platz: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=127773
[00:10] <thecodethinker> Senjai: I want to try to avoid making another account...
[00:10] <thecodethinker> If your not going to help just say so...
[00:10] <thecodethinker> Don't treat me like I am a newbie to these things...
[00:10] <matlock> !rude
[00:10] <aperson> PENISMONKEYS
[00:10] <DarkAceZ> WILLYYANKER
[00:10] <tama92> ls -a /etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d returns nothing
[00:11] <kunji> tama92: Hmm, that's weird, min is using the conf at /etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d
[00:11] <alami> any one here have silc irssi plugin?
[00:11] <matlock> well technically thecodethinker
[00:11] <matlock> !offtopic
[00:11] <matlock> wine = offtopic related discussion
[00:11] <bean> getting a game to run in wine is offtopic, for sure.
[00:11] <alami> !irssi
[00:11] <alami> !silc
[00:11] <Mk558> When the 10.04LTS repositories expire in April, is anybody else going to ... pick up the repository?
[00:11] <matlock> !spamthebot
[00:11] <Platz> it looks like xterm*metaSendsEscape: true fixes it; but seems kinda hacky
[00:11] <werzer23> is there a way to map port 8080 to port 80?
[00:12] <Senjai> thecodethinker: if we dont know we dont respond. But if you ask about stuff that disrupts the current flow or topic of dicussion we will point it out
[00:12]  * thecodethinker sighs
[00:12] <matlock> holyjunk yall don't have a bot spam trigger?
[00:12] <bean> werzer23, yes, using IPtables or any number of other things. I usually use nginx as a reverse proxy.
[00:12] <thecodethinker> Senjai: I don't mind if you do that. That's ur job... I mind when you treat me like I don't know what im doing.
[00:12] <kunji> tama92: Oh, I see the directory itself is empty, that's fine
[00:12] <Platz> werzer23: for one-off's you might be able to use socat
[00:13] <p201> Platz, I never used xterm as main terminal, olny for testing
[00:13] <matlock> ^^ meh, people come in here for /help/     when they need /help/ they usually don't know what they're doing.
[00:13] <bean> werzer23, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Nginx/ReverseProxy
[00:13] <Platz> p201: what do you use; why not xterm?
[00:13] <werzer23> I used: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[00:13] <werzer23> but bottle still says permision denied
[00:14] <tama92> Running ps ax | grep 'dhcp' only return the dhcp-client
[00:14] <bean> werzer23, you need to set your bottle to run on 8080, then use nginx or iptables or something to listen on 80
[00:14] <kunji> werzer23: bottle says it?  What's bottle?
[00:14] <werzer23> bottle.py
[00:15] <werzer23> server / micro web framework
[00:15] <p201> Platz, sakura as most simple. But urxvt is cery common solution.
[00:15] <matlock> http://bottlepy.org/docs/dev/
[00:15] <Platz> p201: cool, thx
[00:16] <biglinux-buddha> http://va.mu/cI8c﻿
[00:16] <werzer23> so how do I use iptables to map 8080 to 80?
[00:16] <bean> werzer23, i'd recommend using nginx.
[00:17] <bean> biglinux-buddha, that isn't very appropriate for here
[00:17] <werzer23> bean: I will use a full scale server when I need it
[00:17] <Sendoushi> lets say you want to run a file which does linux functions... is this a shell?
[00:17] <tama92> Nothing in syslog about dns or dhcp :/
[00:17] <biglinux-buddha> ok
[00:18] <bean> werzer23, then if you dont need it just connect to it on port 8080. Nginx will forward requests from port 80 to 8080 for you.
[00:19] <tama92> There's a "Key type dns_resolver registered" in dmesg
[00:20] <Sendoushi> how can i get the actual folder i'm in?
[00:20] <tama92> Use pwd
[00:20] <matlock> Sendoushi, waht do you mean
[00:20] <matlock> do you mean navigate there in terminal?
[00:20] <Sendoushi> like i'm under /var/www but now i want to mkdir inside that
[00:20] <Sendoushi> so i have to do once again /var/www/DIR
[00:21] <matlock> you wish to make a file inside www?
[00:21] <Sendoushi> i would want a way to get that /var/www which is the actual folder i'm on
[00:21] <Sendoushi> yep
[00:21] <matlock> mkdir <foldername>
[00:21] <matlock> or if that don't work, sudo mkdir <foldername>
[00:21] <Sendoushi> yes but that way you have to use the full path
[00:21] <Sendoushi> that's what i was trying to avoid
[00:21] <bean> no you dont
[00:21] <matlock> not if you're in /var/www
[00:22] <matlock> type pwd
[00:22] <Sendoushi> pwd?
[00:22] <matlock> if it doesn't show as /var/www
[00:22] <matlock> Present Working Directory
[00:22] <Sendoushi> it shows as var/www
[00:22] <matlock> pwd
[00:22] <Sendoushi> but created the folder on root
[00:22] <matlock> did you type mkdir /folder   ?
[00:22] <matlock> or mkdir folder
[00:22] <matlock> there's a difference
[00:22] <ParamotopyOA1> hello, i want to create a disk dump of my new install onto a usb flash drive (so if anything goes down with the fresh install i can bring it back without going through and changing a bunch of configurations).  however, i want to make sure that when i mount the drive somewhere that when i do a disk-dump, that directory is not included in the image (otherwise, it'd be this recursive disk dump which would be no bueno).
[00:23] <francis> Hi, is there a way to recover or reset a lost keyring password?
[00:24] <matlock> ParamotopyOA1, how big is the disk you wanna copy?
[00:24] <Janeth> Hi! I screwed my lightDM and now I can't access ubuntu. Also, I've been thinking about making a fresh install of ubuntu, and I'm decided to do that now. But I first want to save my files. I try to access my hard drive using a liveUSB, but I can't mount the partitions... how can I access and save my files??? I noticed I can't install anything when I'm in the liveUSB session...
[00:25] <matlock> Janeth, what does sudo fdisk -l show  (lowercase L)
[00:25] <jhutchins_wk> Janeth: Just work from the console.  You should be able to switch to it using alt-F1 even if the DM's messed up.  If that fails, boot in rescue or single-user mode.
[00:25] <matlock> or that ^^
[00:25] <matlock> lol
[00:25] <ParamotopyOA1> matlock: the disk is set up with a raid configuration and has 186 gigs on it, but after everything was installed and configured properly (or how i want it), a little less than 4 gigs all day.
[00:25] <matlock> ParamotopyOA1, and your usb drive?
[00:25] <ParamotopyOA1> 16 gigs
[00:26] <Janeth> matlock: with fdisk -l I can see all my partitions
[00:26] <matlock> dd if=/path/to/partition of=/path/to/usb/file.img
[00:26] <matlock> that's what i would think
[00:26] <katy> Hello, each time I install the nvidia drivers for my Macbook Pro either through terminal or Additional Drivers app. Upon reboot I get a black screen. How can I install the proprietary drivers and avoid this issue?
[00:26] <isaias> does unity web player work on ubuntu using vbox to run windows 7?
[00:26] <tama92> How can I check if my computer is doing dhcp ?
[00:26] <Janeth> jhutchins_wk, when I try to log into ubuntu, i get an error message and I get the option of entering by rescue mode. But It wont enter even if I choose that...
[00:27] <matlock> Janeth, and if you mount /dev/to/be/mounted /location/of/mount   ?
[00:27] <matlock> tama92, wifi or ethernet?
[00:27] <matlock> tama92, plug an ethernet cable from a pc to the nic on your box
[00:28] <tama92> Wifi
[00:28] <ParamotopyOA1> right ... but say i have the usb mounted on /myusb ... and i have my hard drive mounted on /, then, creating a disk dump to there will be recursive as it'll follow the link down to /myusb ... no?
[00:28] <Janeth> matlock, i tried the command /dev/sda1 but it didn't work. Do I have to enter a location of mount also?
[00:28] <matlock> yep janeth,
[00:28] <matlock> essentially you would    sudo mkdir /media/mountpoint
[00:28] <matlock> then sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/mountpoint
[00:28] <isaias> Katy: this worked for me and i dont know how or why. try lowing the screen resolution and color, then installing the drivers.
[00:28] <Janeth> ah... ok
[00:28] <Janeth> I will try that
[00:29] <katy> isaias, thanks ill try that
[00:29] <matlock> that may make it read only ... between the mkdir and the mount
[00:29] <matlock> do this
[00:29] <matlock> sudo chown ubuntu:ubuntu /media/mountpoint
[00:29] <matlock> that way the user owns the file, rather than root
[00:29] <matlock> and you don't run into permissions issues
[00:29] <katy> how low did you set the resolution and color
[00:29] <Janeth> do you know why I can't install anything? When I created the live USB I saved some space for files and I've been able to install things before. It feels like I don't have any priviledges...
[00:29] <tama92> What's the "nic on [my] box" ?
[00:30] <katy> isaias,  how low did you set the resolution and color
[00:31] <Janeth> matlock, thanks, i did mount it that way. I will go an save my files :) Thanks!
[00:31] <matlock> tama92, the nic is your network interface card
[00:32] <p201> matlock: that's topic about wifi
[00:32] <werzer23> how can I establish an iptables rules script?
[00:32] <matlock> yea i read that after i mentioned that
[00:32] <tama92> So I need to plug my laptop to the box using an ethernet cable ?
[00:32] <ncp_> tama92, check /etc/network/interfaces
[00:33] <p201> tama92: are we talking about dhcp client or server testing?
[00:34] <tama92> I have 2 lines in it :
[00:34] <tama92> dhcp server
[00:34] <sn0wman> hm
[00:34] <loki_> first i m running gns3 network emulator and i have a lot of problems .. the recomendation is to use it as root (eg kdesudo gns3) .. but in this way i cannot use vbox and wireshark in cooperation... So is there any way to add my self to ALL groups (became an admin.. like windows)??
[00:34] <tama92> auto lo
[00:34] <tama92> iface lo inet loopback
[00:35] <matlock> tama92, and you want which device to be  the dhcp server?
[00:35] <tama92> I don't want it to be the dhcp server
[00:35] <matlock> you want your router to handle that then?
[00:35] <matlock> but for some reason, it's not working propely?
[00:35] <tama92> I want to check if my computer is doing dhcp
[00:36] <matlock> got another computer you can connect to the network that runs linux?
[00:36] <Zahid> I need some ubuntu help!
[00:36] <matlock> if so, connect it then check the log viewer
[00:36] <tama92> When computer's wifi is on, other devices can't connect to the wifi :/
[00:36] <matlock> it should state which servers it packs from
[00:37] <tama92> I can find a live CD
[00:37] <Zahid> Can you guys help me with Ubuntu 12.10
[00:37] <Zahid> Should I type up my question
[00:37] <Zahid> I'm on ubuntu 12.10 and when I go to system properties, it says "Graphics: Unknown" and "Experience: Standard". When I go to settings >> additional drivers, it says "No propietary drivers in use, and theres nothing to choose from. My graphics card is ATI Radeon X600. Is therre anything I can do?
[00:37] <isaias> katy: are you still there?
[00:37] <KxTwo> anyone know how to get ubuntu to see y wired xbox controller so I can use it with zsnes
[00:37] <matlock> !ati
[00:38] <katy> Zahid, try downloading ther additional drivers app
[00:38] <tama92> What should I pay attention to ?
[00:38] <Zahid> Can you tell me how to install that
[00:38] <Zahid> I get it from the software cneter?
[00:38] <jeeves_moss> why can't I boot windows 8 after I installed 12.04?
[00:38] <p201> tama92 is there file /var/lib/dhcp/dhcpd.leases?
[00:39] <katy> isaias, im still here. i did a fresh install i'm waiting for software to update, before i install the driver. is that necissary?
[00:39] <Zahid> Katy apparently my graphics card is really unpopular because I cant find any help on the internet :(
[00:39] <Zahid> Radeon X600
[00:39] <katy> zahid, yeah the software center
[00:39] <Zahid> I'll try that. I'll let u know what happens
[00:40] <tama92> p201 on which device ?
[00:40] <isaias> katy: you are using ubuntu, am I right?
[00:40] <isaias> katy: what kind of monitor do you have?
[00:40] <katy> isaias yeah 12.10
[00:40] <adamk> Zahid: Your GPU will only work with the open source drivers.  They should work just fine, though, for a normal 3D desktop experience.
[00:40] <p201> tama92 which run dhcp server
[00:41] <katy> isaias, its a macbook pro 6,2 the one that came with it..? its a antiglare one...
[00:41] <isaias> katy: ahh, yes xD sorry xD. hmm
[00:42] <katy> adamk, how do i know if im getting the full 3D expirence
[00:42] <adamk> Well if unity is working with 3D effects, then you know :-)
[00:42] <katy> adamk, i;m having trouble after i install the propritary driver. how do i know if it is even necissary?
[00:43] <adamk> katy: Double check the output of 'glxinfo | grep -i render' if you want to see if you have 3D acceleration.
[00:43] <p201> tama92 this file contains dhcpd data, so if you whant to know out dhcpd status - "less" it.
[00:43] <katy> 3d effects on a 2d monitor? i dont understand
[00:43] <adamk> katy: What video card do you have?
[00:43] <isaias> adamk: i thought unity didnt support linux
[00:43] <tama92> Yes but it's empty
[00:43] <katy> adamk, nvidia GeForce GT 330M
[00:43] <adamk> isaias: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28user_interface%29
[00:43] <adamk> katy: Pastebin the output of 'glxinfo'
[00:43] <matlock> tama92,  i forget which logs contain dhcp request and ack messages, as i use static
[00:44] <matlock> but it's there somewhere
[00:44] <Nils_> Hello, I downloaded an executable file but when I try to start it nothing happens. When I right-click it, the menu says that there is no programm to open it. Any advise?
[00:45] <Zahid> Guys is it possible to install this driver in Ubuntu, and should I? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.12&lang=English
[00:45] <adamk> Zahid: Again your GPU will only work with the open source driver.  At least on any modern Linux distribution.  Period, end of story.
[00:45] <katy> adamk, it says glxinfo is not installe should i run : apt-get glxinfo?
[00:45] <matlock> Nils_, this executable that you downloaded, what's the extension?
[00:46] <matlock> or is there one at all..
[00:46] <isaias> katy: my problem had also to do with my monitor. every time I installed the graphics drivers my whole screen went black and i had to reinstall ubuntu. it had to do with the screen resolution and my tv. but lowering the resolution worked for me, but I was using an HDTV
[00:46] <Nils_> .x86
[00:46] <tama92> the file is empty, should I conclude that the dhcp server is not running ?
[00:46] <onitaL> katy, apt-get install mesa-utils
[00:47] <adamk> katy: glxinfo is part of the mesa-utils package.
[00:47] <adamk>  
[00:47] <katy> isaias, so would you get that issue if u used a differnet monitor
[00:47] <katy> or was it specific to the external monitor
[00:47] <matlock> Nils_, try in properties > permissions  > [x] allow executing file as program
[00:47] <Zahid> Sorry adam I had missed your previous message. So do I need to install the open source driver? Or it's already preinstalled on ubuntu
[00:48] <isaias> katy: I havent had a problem since, and I've used 3 different monitors, then again I only installed the drivers once :P
[00:48] <adamk> Zahid: It's installed and used by default.
[00:48] <Nils_> Already checked
[00:48] <adamk> Zahid: In other words, there is likely nothing wrong with your current setup.
[00:48] <matlock> Nils_, open a terminal
[00:49] <tama92> That's so weird
[00:49] <matlock> navigate to the folder it's located in
[00:49] <matlock> and ./filename.x86
[00:49] <katy> adamk & onital, E: could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[00:49] <Zahid> Do you think I should downgrade Ubuntu, Adam?
[00:49] <onitaL> katy, sudo su
[00:49] <isaias> katy: try sudeo
[00:49] <tama92> If I'm close enough to the router, both devices can connect
[00:49] <isaias> katy: sudo*
[00:49] <matlock> tama92, how old is the router?
[00:50] <matlock> also, make/mode/firmware?
[00:50] <adamk> Zahid: Why?
[00:50] <tama92> If I get a little more far, my phone can't connect when my computer is connected :/
[00:50] <Zahid> For some reason 12.10 is not snappy. Windows 7 is much faster than this.
[00:50] <Zahid> There's a delay when I click on something on the launcher
[00:50] <bean> tama92, are there other networks in the area?
[00:50] <matlock> tama92, how OLD is the router
[00:50] <Zahid> like a 2-3 second delay to open firefox, software center, etc.
[00:50] <tama92> matlock, 3 or 4 years
[00:51] <matlock> linksys?
[00:51] <adamk> Zahid: The only way you will be able to use proprietary drivers for that GPU is by downgrading to an Ubuntu from 2009.  That will not improve your experience.
[00:51] <Nils_> I never was good using the cd command
[00:51] <isaias> katy: sudo lets your run commands as root. be careful when you use it though. running everything with root can mess up ubuntu
[00:51] <tama92> Sorry, having trouble typing on my phone keyboard
[00:51] <Nils_> The folder is on the Desktop and named evasi0n-linux-1.2
[00:51] <matlock> SUDO IRSSI && SUDO FIREFOX
[00:51] <matlock> SUDO SUDO
[00:51] <matlock> lol
[00:51] <FloodBot1> matlock: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:51] <tama92> Bean, no...
[00:51] <Nils_> Could you write the cd command for me?
[00:52] <katy> onital, using sudo su "Unknown id: apt-get"
[00:52] <matlock> Nils_,     cd ~/Desktop/
[00:52] <matlock> then ./evasion (and press tab then enter)
[00:52] <onitaL> katy, sudo su<enter>    enter password<enter> then the apt-get command
[00:53] <isaias> katy: or sudo apt-get command
[00:53] <tama92> Should I disable dhcp on the router ?
[00:54] <isaias> onitaL: what does "sudo su" do?
[00:54] <katy> isaias, sudo didn't work...
[00:54] <elliot__> hello
[00:54] <onitaL> isaias, gives you root permises
[00:54] <marun> isaias: logs in as root
[00:54] <isaias> i just tried it :P
[00:55] <elliot__> am i in the right chat room i wanted to discuss concrete5
[00:55] <Nils_> I get this
[00:55] <Nils_> @ nils nils-ThinkPad-T500: ~ $ cd ~ / Desktop / bash: cd: / home / nils / desktop /: No such file or directory
[00:55] <bean> elliot_, what is concrete5?
[00:55] <isaias> i try to avoid that until i know better about what not to do...though I should experiment... :P
[00:55] <bean> elliot_, this is a support channel for Ubuntu
[00:55] <bean> Nils_, you need to not put spaces.
[00:55] <onitaL> oh, isaias , yes, if you're new, it's better to avoid sudo su
[00:55] <elliot__> that is the content management application installed on websites
[00:56] <isaias> onitaL: I'll sit down and mess with sudo su one day ;)
[00:56] <matlock> onitaL, if you're going to sudo su   you may as wwell sudo su -
[00:56] <bean> elliot__, you should /join #concrete5
[00:56] <isaias> onitaL: after I backup
[00:56] <elliot__> ok
[00:57] <matlock> or just su -
[00:57] <matlock> srsly
[00:57] <bean> su - will require root pass though
[00:57] <bean> sudo su - does not
[00:57] <onitaL> matlock, Im new to sudo. I come from Debian
[00:57] <matlock> aah
[00:57] <matlock> i am on debian
[00:57] <bean> onitaL, sudo exists on debian.
[00:57] <matlock> but we still have duso
[00:57] <matlock> sudo
[00:57] <matlock> and su -
[00:57] <FloodBot1> matlock: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:57] <onitaL> yes, it does, but I just use su
[00:58] <matlock> you should really use su -  and not su
[00:58] <katy> adamk, direct rendering: Yes
[00:58] <katy> OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on NVA5
[00:58] <katy>     GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_AMD_conservative_depth,
[00:58] <matlock> using su is like using sudo gedit
[00:58] <matlock> or sudo <insert gui app here>
[00:58] <onitaL> matlock, I'll have it present
[00:59] <Mk558> So when 10.04LTS expires in April, who should i point my repository sources to?
[01:00]  * Mk558 likes 10.04 with the 9.10 theme
[01:00] <isaias> what is meta-utils for?
[01:00] <SonikkuAmerica> ear
[01:00] <onitaL> meta or mesa?
[01:01] <isaias> mesa, lol
[01:01] <kunji> Mk558: Hmm, really should follow the LTS upgrade path though.
[01:01] <onitaL> it's video stuff
[01:01] <isaias> i didnt have it
[01:01] <Mk558> Huh?
[01:02] <Mk558> You're saying I should upgrade to 12.04LTS instead?
[01:02] <katy> isaias, do you think i should try lowering my resolution and then install?
[01:02] <Mk558> I found a guide to make 12.04 look like 10.04, which i'll have to make look like 9.10. Ahhhhh
[01:03] <isaias> no, just follow their advice
[01:03] <isaias> i had to change a setting on my tv aswell for it to work
[01:04] <isaias> but i was having the same problem, the screen going black affter installing the driver
[01:04] <katy> adamk, so there is no reason to install the nvidia driver? which would seem to imply that I shouldn't install the nvidia driver?
[01:05] <adamk> I can't say if you should or should not install the proprietary driver.  It certainly has it's advantages, but I don't know if the open source driver suits your needs.
[01:06] <katy> adamk, would the safest bet be to install it? like is there some functionality i'm leaving on the table?
[01:06] <cjfs> the nvidia drivers do bad things with my 660ti system
[01:06] <adamk> katy: You'll have to research that yourself.
[01:07] <cjfs> games won't launch, screen resolution won't change, random crashes, it scared me
[01:07] <kunji> Mk558: Yeah, I'm saying you should probably upgrade, since it's getting to be end of life.  Don't know about how you would make it look the same though, sorry.
[01:08] <Mk558> sad. I liked 9.10, the UI, a lot.
[01:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Installing gnome-panel is about the only way I can keep my sanity intact. (Seeing 'System' in Apps though...)
[01:08] <Mk558> I know you lot likely get tired of hearing about tirades about how GNOME 3 sucks or "Down with Unity!" but it's true.
[01:09] <Mk558> I would happily get 12.04LTS if it only looked like it has been for the past...decade?
[01:09] <STMelon> you can
[01:10] <kunji> Mk558:Hmm, well, Unity isn't the only option, there's also XFCE, LXDE, etc.. I miss gnome 2 as well, but it's end of life.
[01:10] <SonikkuAmerica> kunji: What about MATE?
[01:10] <STMelon> Mk558: sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[01:10] <STMelon> sudo apt-get install indicator-applet-appmenu
[01:11] <STMelon> sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool
[01:11] <STMelon> wala, back to gnome :P
[01:11] <SonikkuAmerica> sudo apt-get install something-that-will-preserve-my-sanity (sorry)
[01:11] <kunji> SonikkuAmerica: MATE is a good option I suppose, I haven't gotten around to trying it yet though.
[01:12] <SonikkuAmerica> I dunno what the status is about converting the MATE codebase to GTK+ 3, but there are plans for it...
[01:12] <shed-34046> Does anybody here know how my friend running ubuntu can run my visual basic 2010 html viewer program? He tried to open in wine but it didn't open
[01:13] <bean> shed-34046, It's hard to say how that'd work, wine isn't always 100% compatible with windows exes
[01:13] <Mk558> I tried installing netatalk from source and --- well, there should be a $5K award for the first to do it
[01:13] <shed-34046> bean do you have wine installed maybe you can see if my program opens for you?
[01:13] <Mk558> talk about hard. (Not via sudo apt-get install netatalk)
[01:13] <gswain> are there any good solutions to make an ubuntu clone cd like kubuntu without X and without letting the installer create a user?
[01:14] <bean> shed-34046, I'm not on ubuntu at the moment. You could install an Ubuntu VM and see for yourself though.
[01:14] <SonikkuAmerica> gswain: There's an Ubuntu minimal ISO
[01:14] <shed-34046> I can't use vms as my computer only has 2GB of ram
[01:14] <Mk558> I have 2GB of RAM and run VMs once in awhile
[01:15] <shed-34046> my program is only a exe no install needed 19.0 KB file
[01:15] <Mk558> in fact 2GB is the most memory I've ever had.
[01:15]  * bean has 16gb, but is on windows at home, only ubuntu server at work
[01:15] <shed-34046> Mk558 another reason i don't run vms on this machine because umm  the processor is an amd tf-20
[01:16] <Mk558> I've ran VirtualBox under OS X 10.5 while testing out 10.04LTS
[01:16] <gswain>  SonikkuAmerica: i need to be able to add custom packages to the install though like they did with kubuntu and edubuntu
[01:16] <Mk558> and mine is a 2.16GHz Core Duo. Not even a Core 2 Duo.
[01:16] <kunji> gswain: What's the problem with the installer creating a user?  Just remove the user when it's done, the serer version has no GUI
[01:17] <ErickLee> hi sorry to encroach on the current conversation but anyone in here a programmer?
[01:17] <bean> ErickLee, I would imagine there are a few in here.
[01:17] <bean> !ask | ErickLee
[01:17] <kunji> ErickLee: What kind of programmer?  Also though, this sounds like something for #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:19] <gswain> kunji: i guess no problem if i could do that programatically from the cd, basically im creating a router with a web front end. I wont be the only one installing it, I want them to be able to have access to the web interface but not the console
[01:19] <gswain> id like to build the cd because there are programs i have written i would like installed and running on install
[01:20] <SonikkuAmerica> Be back soon...
[01:20] <filipe> :D
[01:21] <z3br0id3> alguem do brasil ai ?
[01:21] <z3br0id3> :'(
[01:21] <bean> !pt | z3br0id3
[01:21] <z3br0id3> portugal hmm
[01:22] <kunji> gswain: Ah, I see what you mean, well, you're building your own cd anyway right?  Since you need to include your programs and stuff.  So why not include a small script or program that runs on boot, removes the default user, gets info for the new one, creates it, and then sets an environment variable that it checks to determine if it should run or not then next time, or something like that?
[01:22] <katy> i'm determined to install the proprietary nvidia driver on my macbook pro. however, each time i do it my system boots to a black screen. even worse when i add nomodeset to the grub options i still get a blackscreen.  how can i resolve this?
[01:24] <gswain> yea i could do that I was just wondering if there were any ubuntu utilities like fedoras respin that allowed you to rebuild your own server images?
[01:24] <ErickLee> thanks for the help
[01:24] <gswain> s/images/cd
[01:24] <Nils_> Sorry that I left
[01:24] <Nils_> When I run it. The terminal says: ./evasi0n.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:25] <tama92> I may have found a solution
[01:25] <kunji> katy: Hmm, what methods have you tried so far?  Also have you been completely undoing failed attempts before trying the next thing?
[01:25] <tama92> disabled dnsmasq from the configuration files
[01:25] <Nils_> Do I need to install some package?
[01:25] <tama92> for now it seems to be working
[01:26] <tama92> thanks for your help :)
[01:27] <katy> kunji: basically. methods i've tried: essentially just adding changing grub options
[01:28] <katy> kunji: right now i have a fresh install and i'm prety apprensive to just blindly try something lol
[01:28] <kunji> katy: What seems to work most consistency is sudo apt-get install nvidia-current   But you may need to remove any nvidia driver you have installed right now first
[01:28] <kunji> *consistently
[01:30] <kunji> katy: After running that command you can check that it's loaded with lsmod | grep nvidia
[01:30] <katy> kunki: i have tried sudo apt-get install nvidia sudo apt-get install nvidia-current sudo apt-get install nvidia-updates. i have also tried the Additional Drovers App. there are 4 options in there (although they seem to be 2 identical pairs, so really like 2 options). i've only tried one...
[01:31] <katy> kunji: i am able to install the driver. its just once i do it i cant see my desktop. only black.
[01:31] <kunji> katy: Was there a warning when installing the driver, like /drivers does not exist, cannot rebind nvidia_current driver  ?
[01:31] <katy> sorry sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates
[01:32] <katy> not that i remember...
[01:33] <katy> i guess i could do it through the additional app and revert back before i reboot. to see if there is an error. although i really dont remember one
[01:33] <kunji> katy: Why use an additional app?
[01:34] <kunji> katy: Are you talking about jockey?  That functionality has been moved to software sources, they should operate the same way though.
[01:35] <katy> kunji, if i install the driver. i wont be able to acces my desktop when i reboot. are you saying i should do the install to see if i get an error. and then do a  purge nvidia before rebooting?
[01:35] <katy> i was talking about the "Additional Drivers" app. avialbe through the Ubuntu Software center
[01:35] <kunji> katy: That's one option, it's a warning, but also there is a workaround that can work for that warning.
[01:35] <katy> idk what jockey is...
[01:36] <kunji> katy: Ok, jockey is a separate program that used to do that
[01:36] <katy> sorry whats a warning?
[01:36] <kunji> katy: It's info that means you might have a problem, while not being an actual error.
[01:36] <filantropus> Can someone help me? my xubuntu system crashs
[01:36] <katy> got u
 itś strange. I have installed a lot of distros but everyone of them always crashes
[01:36] <filantropus> can someone hlp me, pls?
[01:37] <kunji> katy: Actually, there is an error that also occurs with this one though, modinfo: could not find module nvidia_current
[01:37] <aeioufy> Can anyone suggest a good linux gui distro for an acer inspire one?
[01:37] <katy> ok well it sounds like i'm gonna need to run apt-get nvidia-current to determin if it gives an error/warning/exception/oOrWhatEver. correct?
[01:38] <kunji> katy: I would say that's the best way, otherwise we would need to find where that's logged.
[01:39] <ceed^> Hi, how can I get the boot menu back so I can boot different kernels?
[01:39] <katy> kunji: ok im gonna do it ight now. just to check the command is sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[01:39] <katy> correct?
[01:39] <kunji> katy: yep
[01:39] <DaemonicApathy> aeioufy: Lubuntu.
[01:40] <filantropus> helllp
[01:40] <DaemonicApathy> filantropus: Get your hardware checked out.
[01:40] <katy> kunji: here is the output: Reading package lists... Done
[01:40] <katy> Building dependency tree
[01:40] <katy> Reading state information... Done
[01:40] <katy> The following extra packages will be installed:
[01:40] <katy>   dkms fakeroot nvidia-settings python-xkit screen-resolution-extra
[01:40] <katy> Suggested packages:
[01:40] <FloodBot1> katy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:41] <kunji> katy: I think the floodbot cut you off, mind pasting that?
[01:41] <syntroPi> !paste katy
[01:41] <kunji> katy: and also the output of lsmod
[01:41] <syntroPi> !paste | katy
[01:43] <katy> kunji: are you able to see what i "pasted". did i do that correctly
[01:43] <katy> ?
[01:44] <kunji> katy: Could you send the link once more, I didn't see it.
[01:44] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635113/    ok i understand now
[01:45] <kunji> katy: Oh, need to say yes :P
[01:45] <katy> k just wanted to make sure :)
[01:45] <mizzy> can anyone help? i tried to dualboot ubuntu and windows 8. now the laptop wont boot from any media. the backlight for the screen won't even come on.
[01:46] <kunji> mizzy: That sounds like a hardware problem.
[01:46] <syntroPi> mizzy, no screen lights ever? no bios/uefi fw?
[01:47] <mizzy> no backlight, no bios, NOthing
[01:47] <syntroPi> err thats not good
[01:48] <syntroPi> doubt thats a sw problem
[01:48] <mizzy> i honestly have no idea what to do about it.
[01:48] <syntroPi> whats your hardware?
[01:48] <mizzy> its an asus k55a laptop
[01:49] <kunji> mizzy: First thing I would try is to remove the power, remove the battery, hold done the power button for a minute, and then put the battery back in and try to boot.
[01:49] <kunji> *down
[01:49] <mizzy> kunji: i already tried that, i even left the battery and power out for a couple of hours
[01:50] <katy> kunji: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635127/
[01:50] <kunji> mizzy: Hmm, maybe try clearing the cmos?  I'm pretty sure this isn't actually ubuntu related though, you should probably ask in ##hardware
[01:50] <syntroPi> mizzy does it have some diagnostic function? on dells you could hold down Fn key on bootup to diagnose with dell tools... any similar on asus?
[01:51] <kunji> katy: Mmk, and what does lsmod | grep nvidia   give?
[01:51] <mizzy> kunji: kk thanks for the info
[01:51] <syntroPi> maybe in the manual it could be mentioned
[01:51] <syntroPi> mizzy you always should be able to get into bios/uefi fw menu
[01:51] <syntroPi> regardless what you installed
[01:51] <mizzy> syntroPi: i have tried the fn hold
[01:52] <xubuntu> alguien puede ayudarme
[01:52] <syntroPi> thats dell idk what asus uses for that
[01:52] <katy> literally nothing. should i try with sudo?
[01:52] <kunji> katy: sure try it
[01:52] <crazyjoe> hi
[01:53] <katy> kunji: nothing
[01:53] <swills> can anyone tell me what package to install so that i get pkg-config files for ruby 1.9?
[01:53] <kunji> katy: Ok, so the module isn't loaded, so we'll try loading it manually.
[01:53] <werzer23> how can I get nohup to output the pid to a specific file?
[01:53] <kunji> katy: first do: sudo depmod -a
[01:54] <xjack> My integrated wireless card isn't being recognized at all, the wifi button doesn't work, and I have no sound. I require a bit of assistance.
[01:54] <katy> kunji: done
[01:54] <katy> no output
[01:54] <kunji> katy: next: sudo modprobe nvidia_current
[01:54] <kunji> katy: No output is good output for depmod
[01:55] <katy> kunji: FATAL: Error inserting nvidia_current (/lib/modules/3.5.0-23-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_current.ko): No such device
[01:56] <kunji> katy: Well, I think we've found the problem, though I don't really know what to do about it.
[01:56] <syntroPi> katy press ctr alt f1 and login then "sudo service lightdm stop" "sudo rmmod nouveau" "sudo modprobe nvidia_current" "sudo service lightdm start"
[01:57] <syntroPi> but your x session will get lost
[01:57] <katy> kunji: ok... whats going on.?
[01:57] <syntroPi> katy can you do "sudo lsmod | grep nouveau"
[01:58] <katy> syntroPi: pressing those three keys didnt seem to do anything can u elaborate a bit?
[01:58] <kunji> katy: I'm trying to see if I can find anything about that error, the module is failing to load, which explains the black screen when you boot.
[01:58] <kunji> syntroPi: Umm, shouldn't you not restart that until the module is loaded, won't it not help anything at this point?
[01:59] <syntroPi> katy ok wait with what i told you about that ctr alt f1 dont do it yet
[01:59] <syntroPi> katy have you looked in dmesg ?
[01:59] <katy> ok waiting
[01:59] <syntroPi> enter dmesg and see for nvidia module messages
[02:00] <katy> i havent looked there.
[02:00] <syntroPi> maybe there is a hint what going wrong
[02:00] <syntroPi> also you can look at  "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[02:01] <dhanusherly> ?
[02:02] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635149/
[02:02] <katy> i think thats all of it i couldnt go up any further
[02:02] <katy> ill get u the other one now.
[02:03] <syntroPi> katy seems device is busy on other driver?
[02:03] <syntroPi> maybe nouveau
[02:03] <syntroPi> katy, 3842.750801
[02:03] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635154/
[02:04] <numberto> Hi guys, can I have bumblebee and cuda both working on ubuntu
[02:04] <katy> syntroPi: im sorry what do u mean by 3842.750801?
[02:04] <kunji> katy: Ah, actually syntroPi may be onto something there, try doing ctrl+alt+f1 login to the non-GUI terminal and try the command there.
[02:04] <syntroPi> katy if you are sure you have nvidia hw present "lspci | grep nVidia" then you can look if nouveau module is loaded "lsmod | grep nouveau". if so you have to quit x session, unload it "sudo rmmod nouveau" and load nvidia then "sudo modprobe nvidia_current" then restart x session . that you can do from tty1
[02:05] <syntroPi> but the gui will get lost
[02:05] <syntroPi> so prepare and write down those cmds
[02:05] <syntroPi> brb
[02:06] <katy> awesome thanks for the solution. i have to apologize as that was a little over my head. can you duumb it down some for me :)
[02:06] <kunji> katy: Yeah, go with what syntroPi said.  I think he knows this better than I do.
[02:07] <katy> ok thanks for ur help
[02:07] <kunji> katy: So ok, lsmod | grep nouveau will show if the open source driver is in use
[02:07] <kunji> katy: If it is, it may be in the way of loading the proprietary driver
[02:08] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635164/
[02:08] <kunji> katy: So we need to do it from a non graphical interface, which we can go to using ctrl+alt+f1
[02:08] <crazybrain> Is there any network monitoring tool avaliable in Ubuntu?
[02:08] <kunji> crazybrain: etherape is a good one
[02:09] <katy> ok cool. ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt seem to do anything for me. I'm using a macbook pro btw.
[02:09] <crazybrain> kunji: but i use wifi
[02:09] <STMelon> crazybrain: wireshark
[02:09] <crazybrain> kunji: how to configure it for wifi
[02:09] <kunji> katy: Oh right, it's probably cmd(apple key?)+alt+f1, and the same with f7 to go back to the GUI
[02:10] <kunji> crazybrain: I don't remember it having problems with wifi
[02:10] <kunji> crazybrain: What kind of monitoring do  you need to do though, if for a network of servers or something, then you might want to look at nagios
[02:12] <syntroPi> katy, you will loose your gui when you kill x session so if your irc client is on that laptop you will disconnect
[02:12] <katy_> kunji: hey its me :) ok so now im in a black screen it prompted me to log in and i did
[02:12] <syntroPi> ok
[02:12] <katy_> couldnt figure out how to exit so i just jumpted on my other compl
[02:13] <katy_> *computer
[02:13] <syntroPi> your gui session is on ctr alt f7
[02:13] <syntroPi> katy, in the black screen: enter "sudo service lightdm stop"
[02:13] <katy> got it thanks
[02:13] <katy> so what should i do
[02:14] <katy> ?
[02:14] <aeioufy> Where is the most secure place to dl lubuntu from?
[02:14] <kunji> katy: Did you stop lightdm yet?
[02:14] <syntroPi> in tty1 (ctr alt f1) do "sudo service lightdm stop" to kill your x server session (gui will get lost then)
[02:14] <katy> ok im gonna do it now. ill keep tlking to u from katy_
[02:15] <syntroPi> then "sudo rmmod nouveau"
[02:15] <kunji> syntroPi: You've got this then, I'm gonna get some sleep.
[02:15] <syntroPi> then "sudo modprobe nvidia_current"
[02:15] <syntroPi> then "sudo service lightdm start"
[02:15] <xangua> aeioufy: ubuntu.com
[02:16] <katy_> ok i did the light dm stop
[02:16] <syntroPi> katy_, "sudo rmmod nouveau"  "sudo modprobe nvidia_current" "sudo service lightdm start" and login
[02:16] <syntroPi> katy_, lightdm in one word
[02:17] <katy_> got an error
[02:17] <syntroPi> which one?
[02:17] <katy_> module mouveau is in use
[02:17] <syntroPi> try to make sure you didnt mistyped lightdm
[02:18] <syntroPi> katy_, in the tty1 (ctr alt f1)  "sudo service lightdm stop"  "sudo rmmod nouveau"  "sudo modprobe nvidia_current" "sudo service lightdm start" and login
[02:18] <katy_> i think i got it right? the output is "stop:  unknown instance"
[02:19] <syntroPi> hmm what did you typed exactly?
[02:19] <katy_> sudo service lightdm stop
[02:20] <syntroPi> weird do you still have gui ? (ctrl alt f7) ??
[02:21] <katy_> im on a mac if i press (fn+option/alt+command+f7) the command line goes away the screen is still black
[02:21] <katy_> and has text
[02:21] <katy_> it is
[02:21] <john_redmond> hello room
[02:22] <katy_> starting anac(h)ronistic cron  anac(h)ronistic cron
[02:22] <katy_> checking battery state
[02:22] <syntroPi> katy_, so your tty7 had gui but not now? then you should be able to unload that nouveau module "sudo rmmod nouveau"
[02:22] <katy_> startting crah report submission daemon
[02:22] <Rehan> Hi everyone. How good do newer AMD video cards (i.e. HD7870 or 7950) do with Ubuntu?
[02:23] <katy_> i typed that and hit enter
[02:23] <katy_> but it just went to the next line
[02:23] <syntroPi> yes that correct
[02:23] <john_redmond> does anyone know when ubuntu will have libre office 4 in the software center? I hate tar balls
[02:24] <katy_> syntroPi: ok so did i just enter a command? it doesnt seem like it. what next?
[02:24] <syntroPi> katy_, you typed "sudo service lightdm stop" and hit enter?
[02:25] <katy_> well before yes. i just entered it again and nothing happened
[02:25] <syntroPi> ok now try "sudo rmmod nouveau"
[02:25] <syntroPi> in tty1
[02:26] <katy_> still at black screen with   a flashing white '_' where i can type and if i hit enter it goes to the next line but nothing else
[02:26] <katy_> im sorry what is tty1?
[02:26] <syntroPi> ctr alt f1
[02:26] <syntroPi> or your mac combo
[02:26] <katy_> oh ok
[02:26] <katy_> which command first?
[02:27] <katy_> nope still get the same error
[02:27] <katy_> im gonna try and stop the blacklight again
[02:27] <syntroPi> something is using the gui then
[02:27] <katy_> sry lightdm stop
[02:27] <syntroPi> blacklight?
[02:27] <katy_> sorry :)
[02:27] <syntroPi> katy_, in the tty1 (ctr alt f1)  "sudo service lightdm stop"  "sudo rmmod nouveau"  "sudo modprobe nvidia_current" "sudo service lightdm start" and login
[02:27] <syntroPi> thats how i always do that
[02:27] <burrito_> can anybody tell me if the common lamp-server that is installed to Ubuntu via tasksel as ANY support for sqlite??
[02:28] <burrito_> or sqlite3, i mean??
[02:28] <katy_> yeah i see what ur saying. unfortunaly like u said it appears that something is using the gui. what could that be
[02:28] <katy_> ?
[02:29] <big_mike> try ps -e | grep X
[02:29] <katy_> big_mike, was that dirrected at me?
[02:30] <big_mike> katy_ yep sorry
[02:30] <syntroPi> hmm im not sure, since we closed x session with stopping lightdm (which is default on ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10). maybe you are using gdm or kdm instead? if so try "sudo service gdm stop" or "sudo service kdm stop"
[02:30] <katy_> nig_mike "no command 'try' found"
[02:31] <katy_> *big_mike
[02:31] <syntroPi> katy_, " ps -e | grep X"
[02:31] <dima__> "no command 'try' found" :)
[02:31] <katy_> hahah ok
[02:31] <big_mike> katy_ yeah i meant what syntroPi said
[02:31] <dima__> only "ps -e | grep X"
[02:31] <big_mike> ^_^
[02:31] <katy_> alright it worked
[02:31] <big_mike> what did it say?
[02:31] <syntroPi> what did it say?
[02:31] <katy_> nothing...
[02:31] <devslash> I'm looking at setting up a linux distro with a couple of requirements. I want the file system to be encrypted and I'd like something like Tor available with all internet connections routed through it. Is it easy to set up something like this in ubuntu ?
[02:32] <syntroPi> katy_, so no Xorg running there...
[02:32] <katy_> ok.
[02:32] <syntroPi> hmm big_mike any idea what could be using nouveau with no Xorg?
[02:32] <burrito_> devslash have you looked into tails linux??
[02:32] <devslash> no
[02:33] <syntroPi> katy_, maybe even a simple reboot could solve all this... did you had any problems with booting?
[02:33] <big_mike> the tty's maybe?
[02:33] <big_mike> i dunno
[02:33] <burrito_> devslash you will want to check it out and really get to know it.  Once you've gotten accustomed to it, you'll see there are tons of possibilities as to what you can do with it.. it's also very torrified..
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[02:34] <big_mike> syntroPi i would try going in with a liveCD and chrooting
[02:34] <FloodBot1> mizzy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:34] <aeioufy> Looking for netbook distros
[02:34] <mizzy> dang
[02:34] <syntroPi> big_mike, is tty using nouveau? here i always could rmmod it on the tty's but i never were on a mac
[02:34] <devslash> burrito_ I just remembered that Ive heard of it. but it seems that its meant for a live cd/dvd or usb isn't it ?
[02:34] <aeioufy> Seems that lubunto does not have long term support
[02:34] <katy_> well yes each time i install the drivers i cant get it to boot to anything other then a black screen
[02:34] <Neobenedict> im on 10.10 and i'm getting this error OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display when trying to run steam in a VM help
[02:35] <p201> syntroPi, katy_ lsmod | grep nouveau?
[02:35] <mizzy> my exact problem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUPaHOZ75-o
[02:35] <xangua> Neobenedict: please upgrade to a supported version :)
[02:35] <Neobenedict> what
[02:35] <syntroPi> p201, yes its loaded and in use
[02:35] <burrito_> devslash, yes, it is meant for that; but it is not unheard of people either using it for or modeling an installable version after it..
[02:35] <Neobenedict> please give me instructionsd
[02:35] <Neobenedict> instead of just telling me to gtfo because i've never used ubuntu before and don't know what to do
[02:36] <dima__> burrito, tasksel don't have support sqlite, you can use this command "sudo apt-get install sqlite php5-sqlite"
[02:36] <Neobenedict> sorry
[02:36] <Neobenedict> 12.10
[02:36] <xangua> !language | Neobenedict
[02:36] <Neobenedict> >.>
[02:36] <xangua> never said that :)
[02:36] <Neobenedict> im on 12.10 and i'm getting this error OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display when trying to run steam in a VM help
[02:36] <Neobenedict> better?
[02:37] <katy_> big_mike unforunatly these is a hardware issue with my optical drive. i have a bottable usb.
[02:37] <burrito_> devslash, i keep a usb driver with tails installed w/ persistence and an encrypted partition on it..  i believe that you can however install liberte to a hdd if you wish..
[02:38] <burrito_> dima__ thanks, you wouldn't happen to know if this is a common issue on hosted servers would you??
[02:38] <syntroPi> katy_, maybe you need to unload another module which is using nouveau first? is that "lsmod | grep nouveau" still exactly the same output as you posted here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635164/
[02:38] <onitaL> katy_, do you have a lot of data already in that install?
[02:39] <katy_> no it has change. one sec
[02:39] <GeekSquid> Neobenedict: sounds like you either have an unsupported video card, or you don't have the appropriate drivers (proprietary) for the card in the computer, steam requires a lot of resources to run and basic built in onboard video cards don't work with steam
[02:39] <syntroPi> katy_, i suspect some other module is blocking the nouveau unload...
[02:40] <Neobenedict> GeekSquid: i'm on a VM i already said that
[02:40] <Neobenedict> my computer has a gtx 460 so it's fine
[02:40] <katy_> onital, not really any...
[02:40] <onitaL> if nor, I think reinstalling would be better IMHO
[02:40] <katy_> sytroPi, i cant cop paste as i am tlking to u on a dif computer.
[02:40] <onitaL> and make the installer workout the video driver
[02:41] <syntroPi> katy_, yeah but can you see what changed?
[02:41] <syntroPi> compare
[02:41] <devslash> burrito_: i think that tails won't fit my needs. it seems too complicated to install to a are drive
[02:41] <Rehan> what is the support like on ubuntu for the latest amd video cards? (i.e. 7870 or 7950)
[02:42] <katy_> ok the only thing that changed is the column of sigle digit numbers. the are now (top to bottom) 3,1,2,7,2,1,2,3
[02:42] <katy_> onital: how would i go about doing that?
[02:43] <katy_> syntroPi: did that make sense?
[02:43] <onitaL> katy_, I mean start all over
[02:43] <katy_> i've done that several time today.
[02:43] <syntroPi> katy_, those are the same?
[02:43] <katy_> this is a fresh install
[02:43] <onitaL> katy_, oh
[02:44] <katy_> aah im sorry. it is currently: 1,1,2,4,2,1,2,3
[02:44] <dima__> burrite_, yes it's common issue
[02:44] <syntroPi> katy_, those are the numbers "used by" so try reading which modle is using nouveau right now
[02:45] <syntroPi> should only be one module now
[02:45] <syntroPi> before it were 3 modules
[02:45] <radac> hi, anyone know how to enable the penguins on boot which represent the cores of your cpu? (ala slackware)
[02:45] <katy_> first line is: nouveau 896008 1
[02:45] <GeekSquid> Neobenedict: sounds like you are trying to do something bleeding edge in my opinion, I will stop at this point ... Technically steam is a virtual machine in and of itself so running a VM within a VM and expecting it to run flawlessly with full GL is more than I would expect from a VMVM, Play games on hardware - program them on hardware - and serv the engine via a VM or many... Either way this is either a graphics/VM problem and offtopic for ubuntu, pl
[02:46] <katy_> is that what u need?
[02:46] <syntroPi> katy_, means nouveau has size 896008 and used by one other module
[02:46] <syntroPi> but which one?
[02:46] <katy_> got it
[02:47] <syntroPi> we need to unload that to make rmmod nouveau possible
[02:47] <katy_> well. how do i know? there is nothing else on the first line, and the same 7 lines bellow. will different "used" numbers as before but otherwise the same
[02:47] <katy_> yeah i understand
[02:48] <katy_> *with different "used" numbers...
[02:49] <katy_> i'm sorry if im missing something really odvious. but it doesnt seem to indicate which module is useing nouveau
[02:49] <syntroPi> katy_, your "sudo lsmod | grep nouveau" yields exactly this output now right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635224/
[02:50] <katy_> Yes. As far as i can tell they are identical.
[02:52] <ms_> ubuntu>windows
[02:52] <p201> syntroPi katy_ try modprobe -r instead of rmmod
[02:53] <aeioufy> is there an ubutnu help channel?
[02:54] <big_mike> aeioufy this is it
[02:54] <p201> syntroPi  and maybe single mode would be better for task?
[02:54] <devslash> if I'm installing ubuntu on a system with 8GB ram, would it be a good idea to use a 64 bit version of ubuntu ?
[02:55] <GeekSquid> !help | aeioufy
[02:55] <aeioufy> Ok, we'll see =) How can I be sure that Lubuntu will work ok on my 1.6ghz intel atom, 1g ram notebook? Is a new stable long term support comming out?
[02:55] <katy_> p201: "warning: module off not foun"
[02:55] <katy_> *found
[02:56] <xangua> aeioufy: the lts version is 12.04
[02:56] <aeioufy> xangua: I know. My question was different.
[02:56] <Fels> hi - does anyone know if its work runnning ubuntu in a vmware ?
[02:56] <devslash> if I'm installing ubuntu on a system with 8GB ram, would it be a good idea to use a 64 bit version of ubuntu ?
[02:57] <iorweth> Have any1 tried the dell xps 13 developer edition with ubuntu 12.04?
[02:57] <STMelon> aeioufy: you need to have patience, and give ppl time to help you instead of getting upset and leaving rooms .. we do not know the specs of your netbook, without that we cannot make a safe assumption what will and will not work...
[02:57] <STMelon> most likely, it will
[02:57] <aeioufy> Ok, sorry.
[02:57] <STMelon> you can run it in live mode to see as well
[02:57] <p201> katy_ sorry, what inputted command was?
[02:57] <STMelon> give you a chance to get used to it and see if it does work
[02:57] <aeioufy> I'll have to look into live mode.
[02:58] <STMelon> great thing about most ISO's they have a live mode as well, "try it before you buy it"
[02:58] <katy_> p201: sudo modprobe -r nouveau
[02:58] <STMelon> for me, my asus netbook, everything has worked on it..
[02:58] <STMelon> im currently using ubuntu 12.04.2 with unity, its heavier but it runs
[02:59] <aeioufy> Trying to make this last 6 months, I'm poor.
[02:59] <Em_> Is there somewhere in Linux where I can determine if all my drivers are installed. Kind of like the device manager in Windows?
[02:59] <p201> katy_ and does " lsmod | grep nouveau" still has any output?
[02:59] <STMelon> lubuntu will make it last for 5 years, so will xubuntu or even ubuntu
[02:59] <aeioufy> What is lubuntu's official page?
[02:59] <devslash> if I'm installing ubuntu on a system with 8GB ram, would it be a good idea to use a 64 bit version of ubuntu ?
[02:59] <STMelon> if you use the lts version (current is 12.04)
[02:59] <katy_> yes it has an output
[02:59] <katy_> it is the same as
[03:00] <katy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635224/
[03:00] <Em_> devlash: I'm also a newbie but I think that like Windows, 32 bit can only utilize 4gb of ram. Since you have 8GB it would be better to install the 64bit
[03:00] <Fels> hi - does anyone know of an ubuntu in a vmware ?
[03:00] <katy_> syntroPi: Any update?
[03:00] <Physicist> How can I uninstall steam and all games?
[03:00] <STMelon> aeioufy: http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-1204-now-available
[03:00] <syntroPi> katy_, sorry got dc
[03:01] <big_mike> aeioufy, heres a link to the requirements of lubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/162626/what-are-the-minimum-system-requirements-for-lubuntu
[03:01] <katy_> oh np.
[03:01] <Physicist> How can I uninstall steam and all games?
[03:01] <syntroPi> katy_, any success yet?
[03:01] <big_mike> aeioufy, and here's the official page: http://lubuntu.net/
[03:01] <Em_> Does anyone know of a program where I can determine if all of the drivers of my laptop has been installed? Kinda like the device manager of Windows
[03:01] <mandoguit> devslash:  yes go 64 bit
[03:01] <Fels> also is there a seperate irc channel for development - specicatll y for the the mobiile ?
[03:02] <katy_> p201 had me try sudo modprobe -r nouveau
[03:02] <Dedunu> hi
[03:02] <aeioufy> what is ubuntu.com..a hack?
[03:02] <p201> syntroPi katy_ has no ideas, but maybe Katy should go or boot to single mode?
[03:02] <katy_> i got a: warning: module off not found
[03:02] <big_mike> aeioufy, sorry?
[03:02] <devslash> mandoguit: When I tried to download the 64 bit the filename said ubuntu filename is ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso. My processor isn't an amd
[03:02] <amiu> ?
[03:03] <amiu> amd won the race to 64bit standard so they got to name it
[03:03] <devslash> is that the wrong download  ?
[03:03] <aeioufy> I just noticed there is lubuntu 12.10 Should I go with 12.04 for my netbook?
[03:03] <Physicist> How can I uninstall steam and all games?
[03:03] <syntroPi> katy_, did you run "sudo modprobe -r nouveau" and then got that msg? what does "lsmod | grep nouveau" say? still in use?
[03:03] <devslash> so that is the right one  ?
[03:03] <amiu> no amd64 is the correct 64 bit version unless you have an old Intel Itanium (server proc)
[03:03] <big_mike> devslash, that doesnt matter. that's just the label for 64 bit, it works with intel and amd and anything else out there that supports 64 bit
[03:03] <devslash> ok
[03:04] <mandoguit> Em_:   might want to install this little prog    http://code.google.com/p/inxi/    take a look at the screen shot to see what kind of infor (including drivers) is included.   nifty util, imhlo
[03:04] <devslash> have you guys run into issues with apps being written for 32 but only /
[03:04] <devslash> ?
[03:04] <STMelon> aeioufy: 12.04 is the long term support, which is 5 years
[03:04] <p201> syntroPi same modules list
[03:04] <aeioufy> Ok, thanks.
[03:04] <mandoguit> devslash:  that one will work fine
[03:04] <katy_> syntroPi i ran the modprobe and got the warning. then if i run lsmod | grep the output is still this:
[03:04] <katy_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635224/
[03:04] <amiu> not on ubuntu. i found the 64bit version of System Rescue CD is useless. otherwise if its 64bit, your better off with a 64bit OS
[03:05] <aeioufy> with 12.04, will I have to re-partion before or after I start to install it? I have win 7 as my primary os since I've only been learning linux for 3 days.
[03:05] <STMelon> you shouldnt, the installation should do that for you. it will ask you if you want to install along side of windows
[03:06] <amiu> you will want to do that partitioning in gparted when you boot from the disk but before you start the install process (select try, not install)
[03:06] <syntroPi> p201, how did that runlevel stuff worked again? "sudo init <number>" ?
[03:06] <devslash> have you guys run into issues running apps on a 64 bit os because the app was written for 32 bit only ?
[03:06] <amiu> devslash,  not on ubuntu. i found the 64bit version of System Rescue CD is useless. otherwise if its 64bit, your better off with a 64bit OS
[03:06] <STMelon> devslash: you can install ia32-libs
[03:07] <amiu> in fact i have run into more trouble running 32bit ubuntu on 64bit cpu. (amd graphics driver required 64bit OS)
[03:07] <Fels> devslash, shouldn't be an issue unless using speicific 32 bit libs that are not installed
[03:07] <aeioufy> The setup for lubuntu is just like ubuntu?
[03:07] <amiu> the setup process is the same yes aeioufy
[03:07] <p201> syntroPi telinit
[03:08] <aeioufy> Thank you.
[03:09] <syntroPi> p201, does ubuntu even use runlevels? not sure
[03:09] <amiu> no
[03:09] <amiu> no run levels in ubuntu. i've only seen that in slackware and gentoo
[03:09] <aeioufy> Last question, sorry. Will running lubuntu save my pc from a lot of wear an tear that microsoft brings upon it such as overheating?
[03:09] <SonikkuAmerica> aeioufy: Not to mention Lubuntu = Ubuntu + LXDE
[03:09] <syntroPi> katy_, is nouveau listed in "cat /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf" ??
[03:10] <syntroPi> katy_, like "blacklist nouveau"
[03:10] <amiu> there have been overheating problems with 12.04 and 12.10. a workaround has been to have the fan run more often. other than that ubuntu gives less wear and tear on the hard drive
[03:10] <aeioufy> sonikkuamerica, what does that mean?
[03:10] <SonikkuAmerica> aeioufy: CPU = processor.
[03:10] <aeioufy> I am a mct student.
[03:11] <uw> anyone play kerbal space program successfully in linux?
 aeioufy: Not to mention Lubuntu = Ubuntu + LXDE
[03:11] <katy_> yes
[03:11] <katy_> it is listed
[03:11] <katy_> just like that
[03:11] <iorweth> uw: yeah, no problem!
[03:11] <katy_> it is the first one
[03:11] <xangua> aeioufy: it means what it says :)
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> !lxde | aeioufy, first read this
[03:11] <aeioufy> !lxde
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Fail.
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> !notunity
[03:11] <uw> thanks iorweth everything works right under wine?
[03:12] <big_mike> katy_ have you tried blacklisting nouveau and rebooting?
[03:12] <syntroPi> katy_, i think it wouldnt be loadad then when you do a reboot. but i guess that is what you tried before (unsuccessfull)
[03:12] <uw> iorweth, i think i'm having issues zooming when building the rocket
[03:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Still? This is bad. Someone refresh me on the !command for alternative DEs.
[03:12] <amiu> lubuntu doesnt include the Amazon adware.  not sure if it uses the zeitgeist spyware. i havent run lubuntu since version 11
[03:12] <Physicist> !steam
[03:12] <syntroPi> katy_, so we need to find out which other module is conflicting there
[03:12] <iorweth> uw: i havent experienced any errors
[03:12] <katy_> ok got it.
[03:12] <p201> amiu syntroPi sorrym whats wrong? u can boot to single mode or get into one with telinit.
[03:13] <uw> iorweth, ah gotcha.  can i ask what version of wine you're using?
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> !lubuntu
[03:13] <katy_> I don't know if that is what i tried. but yes the original issue was that i boot to a blackscreen upn reboot after installing the driver
[03:13] <syntroPi> katy_, maybe try to change to single mode like p201 said
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> !lubuntu | aeioufy, try that
[03:13] <aeioufy> !lubuntu
[03:14] <katy_> sytroPi, ok. how do i do that?
[03:14] <iorweth> uw: 1.5.23
[03:14] <syntroPi> katy_, maybe that i915 is related or the other backlight stuff
[03:14] <aeioufy> I think that is it.
[03:14] <aeioufy> Will be using xchat in the future.
[03:14] <aeioufy> Thanks.
[03:14] <SonikkuAmerica> aeioufy: And just like all the other DEs, sans KDE, it's GTK-based, so it's compatible with most of the stuff you can run in plain ol' Ubunut.
[03:14] <SonikkuAmerica> *Ubuntu
[03:14] <ad5300> Hi, I just did a fresh install of 12.10. My system is using Gallium llvmpipe instead of the intel driver. It is unbearably slow. Lenovo IdeaPad Y570 w/ SandyBridge Core i7. Help?
[03:15] <aeioufy> Ok, keep in mind I only have 2 and a half days experience with linux. Thanks.
[03:15] <aeioufy> This is fun.
[03:15] <uw> thanks iorweth i'm at 1.4 so i may be a little old
[03:15] <katy_> maybe, to be honest i didnt really understand what you meant tho...
[03:16] <Fels> i want to develop software on Ubuntu and was advised to look at Python - is there a specaial flavour or version for ubuntu?
[03:16] <syntroPi> katy_, im not sure about those apple macbooks backlights did you try to google for your model name and backlight nvidia ubuntu?
[03:16] <moondoggy> Can anyone recommend a stable flowchart/diagram drawing tool for Ubuntu?
[03:16] <aeioufy> A year from now I should be at a gui'less stage.
[03:16] <moondoggy> Having a hell of a time finding a good one.
[03:16] <amiu> Fels,  any ubuntu is fine for development
[03:16] <ad5300> Fels: python is the same across platforms. It is a scripting language; it is interpreted.
[03:16] <SonikkuAmerica> !ide | Fels
[03:17] <katy_> if im understanging u correctly, no i dont believe i have
[03:17] <katy_> this is a macbook pro 6,2 ill do it now
[03:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Fels: It doesn't list IDLE, which is made specifically for Python.
[03:17] <iorweth> uw: may be. You could try to use a later version.
[03:17] <syntroPi> katy_, is there any driver loadad "lsmod " which is listed in cat /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf  except that nouveau?
[03:17] <Fels> ok - and all free :)    is there a python tutorial ?
[03:17] <phong_> why ubuntu always crash?
[03:18] <phong_> the 11.10 and up is not good
[03:18] <ad5300> Also, related to the bug I mentioned above, compiz is eating all of my cpu. CPU usage seems to be always at least 60%. I think this is a bug or something.
[03:18] <iorweth> uw: the wine version testet on winehq is 1.3.26
[03:18] <phong_> it keep asking me to send error report
[03:18] <phong_> are there problems with  ubuntu ?
[03:18] <katy_> the next line is "blacklist lbm-nouveau"
[03:18] <phong_> not use to be that stable
[03:18] <katy_> is that what you mean?
[03:19] <katy_> there are another 6 or so lines
[03:19] <amiu> the error reporter is more aggresive about reporting errors than in previous versions
[03:19] <katy_> one of them "blacklist nvidia-current-updates" which is a lot like the command i used to install the driver
[03:20] <p201> katy_, sytroPi So, let's try to reboot and boot to single mode? That's should be most fast way to know out what the problem is.
[03:20] <BoUrJI> can any one help me here
[03:21] <amiu> with what?>
[03:21] <syntroPi> katy_, also read this http://choppit.blogspot.de/p/ubuntu-1204-precise-x64-on-macbook-pro.html
[03:21] <BoUrJI> am trying to install psybnc
[03:21] <BoUrJI> look what it give me
[03:21] <KxTwo> so I have zsnes installed and it worked until I rebooted.  Now it crashes when I click on it.  I can run it form terminal with sudo though.  Is there a way I can run it graphically without terminal?
[03:21] <katy_> p201, im down to try anything. what do i need to do?
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> KxTwo: Set up a launcher for it. (Reply "how?" if you need help.)
[03:21] <amiu> zsnes does not work under ubuntu 12 as far as i know.
[03:22] <KxTwo> how?
[03:22] <KxTwo> well let me google first
[03:22] <katy_> syntroPi, got it thx.
[03:22] <SonikkuAmerica> KxTwo: Good call. Hopefully Google has a search result for it.
[03:22] <amiu> KxTwo,  there are other emulators that do work under ubuntu 12
[03:23] <syntroPi> katy_, found it like "www.google.com/search?q="macbook+pro+6%2C2"+nvidia+backlight+ubuntu"
[03:23] <KxTwo> zsnes is for ubuntu it worked fine on install but then I rebooted and it works just has to be launched through terminal
[03:23] <syntroPi> katy_, but try to do what p201 said
[03:23] <syntroPi> brb
[03:23] <l057c0d3r> wow the strangest thing...  my mupen64 emulator started acting up today..  i've just finished installing compiz..  it works fine in a window.. but go full screen and it gets all messed up looking
[03:23] <amiu> KxTwo,  i had to go with a different emulator as zsnes does not work with the current ubuntu at this time
[03:23] <l057c0d3r> so figured oh its probably because of compiz..  so disabled composition...
[03:24] <KxTwo> amiu, im using it right now it works
[03:24] <l057c0d3r> and restarted emu.. and it did it in window and full screen mode.. turn comp back on and only in full screen..  weir right
[03:24] <p201> katy_ reboot and choose "recovery mode" in grub.
[03:24] <p201> katy_ then add "single" to kernel options
[03:24] <katy_> ok, im on it
[03:24] <p201> katy_ like here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto
[03:25] <l057c0d3r> yeah was going to say zsnes works fine for me
[03:25] <amiu> KxTwo,  thanx. i tried a few days ago and zsnes had no option to install as it was not compatible.
[03:25] <amiu> i'd prefer to run zsnes so thats great news
[03:26] <KxTwo> amiu, sudo apt-get install zsnes:i386
[03:26] <l057c0d3r> yeah bsnes lagged so bad..  ut zsnes is good..
[03:26] <p201> syntroPi and now, what do u think, why can't we rmmod module?
[03:26] <KxTwo> and it was working fine and still does but before I rebooted I just double clicked on the icon, now I have to sudo it
[03:26] <l057c0d3r> if you can not get it through the repos to work..  as a few of my friends have had...
[03:26] <l057c0d3r> they just used windows version on wine and said it worked great as well
[03:27] <katy_> p201, im booted to recovery. do i select one of the options from the menu?
[03:28] <p201> as i remember, u can press "e" to edit options
[03:29] <amiu> KxTwo,  right click on the icon -> properties -> change the command adding gksudo as the first command
[03:29] <katy_> i did that. i added "single" to the end of the linux line. and now i see the menu that i always see for recovery
[03:29] <amiu> gksudo zsnes
[03:29] <KxTwo> right click does nothing
[03:29] <syntroPi> p201, i suspect another module uses nouveau and therefore it couldnt be rmmod'ed but on a reboot it shouldnt be loadad since blacklisted
[03:29] <amiu> oh ur right.... i was right clicking on a desktop icon
[03:30] <syntroPi> p201, just hope her backlight comes on
[03:30] <katy_> its on....
[03:30] <p201> so...
[03:31] <katy_> syntroPi & p201, i added "single" to boot options in grub. it booted i see the menu. should i make a selection? what next?
[03:31] <amiu> KxTwo,  if you have alacarte installed (main menu) you can modify the shortcut with that
[03:31] <KxTwo> I don't
[03:31] <KxTwo> I guess im stuck running from terminal
[03:31] <big_mike> katy_ just see if nouveau loaded with 'lsmod | grep nouveau'
[03:32] <katy_> options are: resume, clean, dpkg, failsafex, fsck,grub, network, root, systm-summary"
[03:32] <amiu> sudo apt-get install alacarte   <-- this would be the easiest way to modify with out manually editing configs
[03:32] <katy_> big_mike: by selecting the "root" option to get a command prompt. correct?
[03:33] <big_mike> katy_ yeah
[03:33] <katy_> ok the output of lsmod | grep nouveau is: nvidia  11257760  0"
[03:33] <katy_> no quote tho
[03:34] <syntroPi> katy_, grep for nouveau listed nvidia?
[03:34] <big_mike> yeah that one confused me too
[03:34] <Kevin`> Press I to ignore, S to skip mounting, or M for manual recovery
[03:34] <Kevin`> Spawning maintenance shell
[03:35] <Kevin`> I can't type anything after pressing m
[03:35] <syntroPi> katy_, is there the word "nouveau" in that line ?
[03:35] <syntroPi> cant be
[03:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Kevin`: What happened?
[03:35] <katy_> sorry nope. there was no output at all
[03:35] <syntroPi> ok good
[03:35] <syntroPi> then nvidia is loaded and no nouveau
[03:35] <Kevin`> SonikkuAmerica: http://pastebin.com/EhegpSHe
[03:35] <big_mike> that means youre good
[03:35] <DaemonicApathy> Why do I have 12.04.2?
[03:36] <katy_> so we're done?!
[03:36] <syntroPi> katy_, big_mike but nvidia isnt used yet "0"
[03:36] <syntroPi> so can we start lightdm from here?
[03:36] <syntroPi> idk
[03:36] <big_mike> syntroPi no its single user
[03:36] <big_mike> you'd have to reboot
[03:36] <Kevin`> DaemonicApathy: what are you expecting to have?
[03:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Kevin`: That's weird.
[03:37] <DaemonicApathy> 12.04.1, until 2/14
[03:37] <katy_> big_mike: but will i be able to reboot if nvidia isnt being used yet?
[03:37] <Kevin`> I remember reading that they changed the number in the packages before release for some reason
[03:37] <Kevin`> (before the installer images release)
[03:38] <Kevin`> SonikkuAmerica: weird how?
[03:38] <big_mike> katy_ wait did you say earlier that you blacklisted nvidia?
[03:38] <syntroPi> katy_, maybe try a normal reboot now... if it doesnt work (no backlight) you can try to add those options i gave in the link http://choppit.blogspot.de/p/ubuntu-1204-precise-x64-on-macbook-pro.html
[03:38] <syntroPi> when you resume to that mode you are in now
[03:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Kevin`: It seems it can't find your /
[03:39] <SonikkuAmerica> (top directory)
[03:39] <katy_> big_mike, i don't know. what is blacklisted?
[03:39] <syntroPi> big_mike, nvidia-current blacklisted nouveau i think
[03:39] <katy_> syntroPi: so ur saying if i reboot and it doens't work ill still be able to ge to a command prompt and from there i can try what thi srticle suggest?
[03:40] <SonikkuAmerica> !blacklist | katy_
[03:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Well that doesn't define it
[03:41] <SonikkuAmerica> but it keeps a module from loading.
[03:41] <syntroPi> katy_, as you did right now... you did get cmd prompt didnt you?
[03:41] <syntroPi> wait one sec
[03:41] <Kevin`> SonikkuAmerica: what makes you say that? is that the error code fsck.btrfs would give?.. how does it know it's btrfs if it can't find it
[03:41] <Kevin`> and actually, isn't fsck done AFTER the initrd?
[03:41] <big_mike> katy_ yeah try rebooting and see if nvidia loads up
[03:41] <katy_> yeah, through single user mode at least. so im gonna try a regla reboot then
[03:42] <codepython777> whats the correct way to replace/update from openjdk to oracle jre?
[03:42] <SonikkuAmerica> Kevin`: I thought so...
[03:42] <syntroPi> katy_, "find /etc/modprobe.d -type f -exec grep -n -H nvidia {} \;" looks if nvidia is blacklisted somewhere
[03:42] <syntroPi> katy_, but i dont think it is
[03:42] <Kevin`> anyone know why I can't type anywhere for this 'maintenance shell'? I tried on the console, and looking for anything interesting on all of the vga vts
[03:42] <Kevin`> well, the 1-12 ones
[03:42] <syntroPi> katy_, since it loadad now
[03:42] <xangua> codepython777: uninstall openjdk and install sun java
[03:43] <jackyyll> can someone tell me how to install this ppa of rtorrent extended? I added the PPA and add-apt-repisotory said all was OK, then apt-get install rtorrent and it still is the same normal rtorrent
[03:43] <codepython777> xangua: what packages do i need to install for openjdk?
[03:43] <katy_> ok so i booted and the 5 dots icon came up. then my sreen went black
[03:44] <big_mike> katy_ can you get into a tty?
[03:44] <syntroPi> katy_, hmm then its probably the backlight stuff. you also can try to add "nomodeset" to the kernel parameters in grub (like you did before)
[03:44] <katy_> well if i can, i still cant see anything on the screen
[03:45] <katy_> ok ill try. unfortunaly nomodeset hasn't been working for me at all
[03:45] <syntroPi> katy_, so backlights are off (no shimmering through even on black screen)?
[03:46] <katy_> nope nothing. p201 had me add "single" before. is that what you meant or should i try nomodeset first
[03:46] <jackyyll> anyone? :3
[03:46] <katy_> sytropi: do u still want this "find /etc/modprobe.d -type f -exec grep -n -H nvidia {} \"
[03:46] <syntroPi> is backlights shimmering through black screen?
[03:46] <syntroPi> nope
[03:46] <katy_> not that i could see. its off ow tho about to boot
[03:47] <syntroPi> katy_, you are on 12.04 x64 right?
[03:48] <katy_> no 12.10 x64
[03:48] <syntroPi> katy_, ok but still you can try in single mode (as before) "sudo nano /etc/rc.local"
[03:48] <Kevin`> # fsck.btrfs /dev/otto/root
[03:48] <Kevin`> Segmentation fault
[03:50] <syntroPi> katy_, reboot in that single mode
[03:50] <katy_> ok
[03:51] <syntroPi> does anyone know if "$backlight_brightness" variable is set in "/etc/rc.local" ?
[03:51] <katy_> i acidently just boot into recovery, without adding "single" which is good news right?
[03:51] <anrope> Hi. I'm dealing with ubuntu 11.10. I'm trying to increase open files limit for a process run by root. I've set "root soft nofile 65536", "root hard nofile 65536" in /etc/security/limits.conf. I've added "session required pam_limits.so" to /etc/pam.d/common-session*. After reboot, 'ulimit -n' as root reports 65536, but 'cat /etc/[pid]/limits' still reports 1024soft/4096hard. Is there something else that could be limiting the
[03:51] <anrope>  number of open files?
[03:51] <syntroPi> katy_, do you have cmd prompt?
[03:52] <katy_> yup
[03:52] <syntroPi> katy_, do "cat /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/apple_backlight/subsystem/gmux_backlight/brightness"
[03:52] <syntroPi> use tab to complete
[03:54] <katy_> ok instead of this article? http://choppit.blogspot.de/p/ubuntu-1204-precise-x64-on-macbook-pro.html
[03:54] <syntroPi> yes try that cmd first
[03:56] <syntroPi> katy_, do "cat /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/apple_backlight/subsystem/gmux_backlight/brightness"
[03:56] <katy_> syntroPi: "cat: /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/apple_backlight/subsystem/gmux_backlight/brightness: No such file in directory"
[03:57] <syntroPi> hmm ok "lsmod | grep  apple_gmux"
[03:57] <Rehan> what is the driver support like on ubuntu for the latest amd video cards? (i.e. 7870 or 7950)
[03:58] <katy_> syntroPi: ok there was no output
[03:58] <katy_> do i run the cat command again?
[03:58] <syntroPi> katy_, "sudo modprobe apple_gmux" first then do cat again
[04:00] <katy_> ok there was no output again. now im gonna run the cat command
[04:00] <katy_> syntroPi: "cat: /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/apple_backlight/subsystem/gmux_backlight/brightness: No such file in directory" again
[04:02] <Dii_Pundiih> Hi. i just installed lubuntu 12.04 on a laptop and looked a film when the cord jumped out and the mashine shutdown.. now it says that it cant mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/838a...... on root failed invalied argument. and that it cant mount /dev /sys /and /proc on /root and that target dont have recuested /sbin/init  Try passing init= bootarg.   What should i do?
[04:02] <kunji> katy_: Run just "ls /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/apple_backlight/subsystem/gmux_backlight/"
[04:03] <syntroPi> sorry dc again
[04:03] <syntroPi> katy_, did that gmux module load
[04:03] <katy_> no worries. thanks for being so patient with me btw
[04:03] <kunji> syntroPi: That article looks like they might be creating the file, it doesn't need to already exist for > to work
[04:04] <katy_> kunji: " ls: cannot access /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/apple_backlight/subsystem/gmux_backlight/: No such file in directory
[04:04] <katy_> syntroPi: "cat: /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/apple_backlight/subsystem/gmux_backlight/brightness: No such file in directory" again
[04:04] <syntroPi> kunji, i think it must exist when the apple_gmux module is loadad as before with nouveau http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635224/
[04:05] <syntroPi> katy_, is apple_gmux module present "lsmod | grep apple_gmux" after you loadad it with "sudo modprobe apple_gmux" ?
[04:05] <kunji> syntroPi: You think the brightness file needs to?  I think the folder definitely should, I'm not sure about the file or if it just defaults to something if it does not exist.
[04:06] <katy_> so i just ran :"sudo modprobe apple_gmux" then  "lsmod | grep apple_gmux" and didnt get ouput either time
[04:07] <syntroPi> hmm katy_ "dmesg" complaints after your try to load it?
[04:07] <katy_> i dont think ive tried that yet
[04:07] <katy_> the command is "dmesg" alone?
[04:07] <syntroPi> yes
[04:07] <syntroPi> at the end it should complain why it wouldnt load module
[04:08] <katy_> ok TONS of output. what am i lookin for?
[04:08] <syntroPi> the end
[04:08] <katy_> last line?
[04:08] <syntroPi> katy_, even do a "dmesg | grep apple_gmux" to search for it
[04:09] <syntroPi> or just gmux
[04:09] <phong_> is there RDC for ubuntu?
[04:09] <phong_> the best one?
[04:09] <katy_> apple_gmux: found gmux version 1.9.33
[04:10] <syntroPi> hmm thats all?
[04:10] <syntroPi> no complaints why it refuses to load?
[04:10] <syntroPi> or quit? since it already is there "apple_gmux: whatever"
[04:10] <katy_> [6.444158] comes before it on the same line but yeah only one line
[04:11] <katy_> not that i can see
[04:11] <syntroPi> katy_, even without that grep filter? just try dmesg and read around that time index
[04:12] <codepython777> anyone running cassandra here?
[04:12] <Dedunu1> yeah
[04:12] <Dedunu1> codepython777: yeah
[04:12] <katy_> ok. (side question do i need a mouse to scroll up the terminal? im using it on this comp now)
[04:13] <codepython777> Dedunu1: what version are you running?
[04:13] <Dedunu1> im running datastaz one
[04:13] <syntroPi> kunji, can that "echo > /location/which/does/not/exist" hang the "/etc/rc.local" somehow (error level)? shouldnt hang it right? so maybe just worth a try?
[04:13] <codepython777> Dedunu1: I just installed oracle java for it, and now when i try to install cassandra it again tries toinstall openjdk?
[04:13] <codepython777> Dedunu1: http://www.datastax.com/docs/1.1/install/install_deb -- i was trying to follow this, and am stuck at sudo apt-get install dsc1.1 cassandra=1.1.9
[04:14] <syntroPi> katy_, "dmesg | less" then arror keys
[04:14] <kunji> syntroPi: It shouldn't hang it, no, but I think it fails if the folder does not exist, maybe just check the existence of the folder first with ls
[04:14] <syntroPi> katy_, ":q" to close
[04:14] <Dedunu1> codepython777: otherwise you can download binary
[04:14] <Dedunu1> from
[04:14] <unheeding> codepython777: did you add the repo?
[04:15] <codepython777> yes,
[04:15] <Dedunu1> codepython777: apache and run it on you machine
[04:15] <codepython777> I installed 1.6.0_39 jre - is that the problem?
[04:15] <Dedunu1> codepython777: it is easy
[04:15] <syntroPi> kunji, well we woudl need that d**n module to load then first. maybe it refuses because of recovery mode?
[04:15] <Dedunu1> codepython777: you have to SET JAVA_HOME first
[04:15] <unheeding> codepython777: that version looks okay
[04:15] <codepython777> JAVA_HOME = /usr/java/latest/ ?
[04:15] <kunji> syntroPi: I wonder if xorg.conf is the problem somehow?  Maybe run sudo nvidia-xconfig and try rebooting.
[04:16] <codepython777> still tried to install openjdk
[04:16] <syntroPi> kunji, katy_  does "cat /etc/xorg.conf" even exist in 12.10?
[04:16] <kunji> syntroPi: Nevermind, the article I was reading is ancient
[04:17] <escott> syntroPi, only with NVIDIA drivers
[04:17] <codepython777> Dedunu1: http://bpaste.net/show/6r5OqTpD7uE8GAUOCm1K/
[04:17] <syntroPi> escott, where?
[04:17] <kunji> syntroPi: It doesn't exist by default, but yeah, nvidia creates one, and it is used if you create one yourself
[04:17] <Rehan> what is the driver support like on ubuntu for the latest amd video cards? (i.e. 7870 or 7950)
[04:17] <kunji> syntroPi: /etc/X11/xorg.conf I think
[04:17] <katy_> dmesg | less didn't do anthing different and the arrow keys just go thro my recent commands
[04:17] <escott> syntroPi, it would be /etc/Xorg/Xorg.conf for an nvidia (proprietary) driver setup
[04:18] <Dedunu1> codepython777: you are going to install then
[04:18] <escott> syntroPi, or X11 as kunji indicated
[04:18] <katy_> sytroPi: so i'm quiting the cmd prompt?
[04:18] <Dedunu1> codepython777: you have to use service cassandra start service cassandra status like commands
[04:18] <codepython777> unheeding: deb http://debian.datastax.com/community stable main -- I added this to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cassandra.sources.list
[04:18] <Dedunu1> codepython777: you can use cassandra-cli to enter to shell
[04:19] <codepython777> Dedunu1: I just dont want to install openjdk again
[04:19] <codepython777> sudo apt-get install cassandra is trying to do that
[04:19] <codepython777> i want to avoid that
[04:19] <Dedunu1> wait
[04:19] <syntroPi> katy_, nope wait with that, ":q" just would quit the "dmesg | less"
[04:19] <Dedunu1> http://www.datastax.com/docs/datastax_enterprise2.1/install/install_deb_pkg
[04:20] <Dedunu1> Once i tried this
[04:20] <Dedunu1> ok
[04:20] <kunji> syntroPi: Hmm, should we try the x-swat ppa version instead?
[04:20] <Dedunu1> tell me what is your problem
[04:20] <Dedunu1> ???
[04:20] <codepython777> Dedunu1: isnt the enterprise version not free?
[04:20] <codepython777> I was trying to get the free version
[04:20] <Dedunu1> its free
[04:20] <Dedunu1> for development things
[04:20] <codepython777> Dedunu1: http://www.datastax.com/docs/1.1/install/install_deb -- why doesnt this work?
[04:20] <Dedunu1> but you may have to purchase its for production
[04:21] <syntroPi> kunji, idk i dont even think the nvidia driver is the problem but the backlight with is simply not switched on. id try to add those rc.local and do normal reboot
[04:21] <craigbass1976> Is there some reason anyone can think of why my phone mounts up fine (as an external drive) in XFCE but not GNOME3?  Unity was ok too I think.
[04:21] <Dedunu1> that thing im not pretty much sure
[04:21] <codepython777> Dedunu1: I just need a free version
[04:22] <katy_> SytroPi: ok got it! so do i need to creat a xorg.conf file?
[04:22] <Dedunu1> http://cassandra.apache.org/download/
[04:22] <kunji> syntroPi: Makes sense, does i915 need to be loaded before apple_gmux?
[04:22] <Dedunu1> download this
[04:22] <Dedunu1> codepython777: and extract it then check whether you have correctly set JAVA_HOME
[04:22] <Dedunu1> codepython777: then run bash cassandra
[04:23] <Dedunu1> codepython777: then its will work like a charm
[04:23] <syntroPi> kunji, katy_  try "sudo modprobe i915" then "sudo modprobe apple_gmux"
[04:24] <codepython777>  Dedunu1: from source?
[04:25] <katy_> syntroPi: go no output from either
[04:25] <katy_> *ok no output from either
[04:25] <Dedunu1> codepython777: no download binaries
[04:25] <Dedunu1> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi?path=/cassandra/1.2.1/apache-cassandra-1.2.1-bin.tar.gz
[04:25] <syntroPi> katy_, "lsmod | grep apple"
[04:25] <Dedunu1> its completely free
[04:27] <katy_> syntroPi: ok ihave a table of output. what am i lookin for?
[04:27] <syntroPi> is there apple_gmux there
[04:27] <codepython777> Dedunu1: so everytime i have to run cassandra, i just do bash cassandra?
[04:27] <katy_> syntroPi: yes that string appears three times in the output
[04:27] <Dedunu1> goto bin
[04:27] <syntroPi> katy_, then "ls -l /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/apple_backlight/subsystem/gmux_backlight"
[04:28] <Dedunu1> of cassandra frin
[04:28] <kunji> syntroPi: Hmm, I found a post where someone seems to need to remove apple_gmux and then put it back for it work.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/247386/for-the-backlight-to-work-i-have-to-type-in-sudo-modprobe-r-apple-gmux-everytim
[04:29] <katy_> syntroPi:aahhh "No suc file in directory" should i cd and ls one directory at a time and find where the path breaks?
[04:29] <kunji> katy_: sure
[04:30] <syntroPi> katy_, "find /sys -name '*gmux*'" could find it for you?
[04:31] <syntroPi> kunji, what im not sure is where the values of those vars come from in this "/etc/rc.local" http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635334/
[04:31] <katy_> kunji:  path /sys/devices/virtual contains not backlight directory
[04:31] <devslash> if I've got 8GB of ram, I don't really need swap right ?
[04:32] <escott> katy_, those things seem to bounce around /sys with different kernel versions. just find /sys -name backlight
[04:32] <escott> devslash, depends on what you are doing
[04:32] <escott> devslash, large image files/genome sequencing maybe you want some swap
[04:32] <thesadmafioso> Hi, I am having trouble mounting an SD card. I do not see it when I try fdisk -l
[04:32] <syntroPi> katy_, "find /sys -name '*gmux*' 2> /dev/null"
[04:32] <devslash> well desktop client, mostly basic web surfing, web site design etc. nothing too intensive like photo/video editing
[04:32] <cyphase> nautilus defaults to sorting my home folder by modification date in reversed order, and it doesn't save the sort order when i change it. anyone know how to fix that?
[04:33] <escott> thesadmafioso, (a) don't use fdisk use parted (b) remove and insert the card and look at "dmesg | tail -n 20"
[04:34] <Smasher676> clear
[04:34] <thesadmafioso> escott just run $ parted
[04:34] <thesadmafioso> ?
[04:34] <escott> thesadmafioso, "sudo parted -l" (won't matter in this particular case but in others it might)
[04:34] <katy_> ok there is one in sys/bus 1 in sys/devices 1 in sys/class 3 in sys/module
[04:34] <katy_> which am i lookin for?
[04:35] <escott> katy_, check them all
[04:35] <katy_> escott: of open each file? and check them for what?
[04:35] <katy_> *ok
[04:36] <syntroPi> katy_, is there one with apple or gmux in it?
[04:36] <escott> katy_, ls /sys/bus/backlight /sys/class/backlight /sys/module/backlight
[04:36] <kunji> syntroPi: Have we tried running sudo nvidia-xconfig ?
[04:36] <syntroPi> kunji, not yet
[04:36] <kunji> syntroPi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12324724&postcount=221  maybe we should, I don't know what sorcery it does, but if it works...
[04:37] <katy_> there is one apple-gmux 2 gmx_backlight and 3 apple_gmux file
[04:37] <kunji> syntroPi: And here is what cberner did: http://cberner.com/2012/10/19/installing-ubuntu-12-10-on-macbook-pro-retina/
[04:38] <escott> devslash, then you can probably get away with it. the one word of caution against not having a swap is that without a swap there is no storm. its straight to OOM. so if I write a bad program I can eat RAM very quickly (while (1) { malloc(sizeof(char)*1024); }) so you have to trust the OOM killer
[04:38] <thesadmafioso> escott here is the output of dmesg http://pastebin.com/n92p5RFY
[04:38] <syntroPi> kunji, looks good but nomodeset in there and 6. Brightness controls still broken
[04:38] <devslash> whats OOM ?
[04:39] <escott> devslash, http://linux-mm.org/OOM_Killer
[04:39] <anrope> Hi. I'm dealing with ubuntu 11.10. I'm trying to increase open files limit for a process run by root. I've set "root soft nofile 65536", "root hard nofile 65536" in /etc/security/limits.conf. I've added "session required pam_limits.so" to /etc/pam.d/common-session*. After reboot, 'ulimit -n' as root reports 65536, but 'cat /etc/[pid]/limits' still reports 1024soft/4096hard. Is there something else that could be limiting the
[04:39] <anrope>  number of open files?
[04:39] <syntroPi> katy_, hmm anything similar to the one "/sys/devices/virtual/backlight/apple_backlight/subsystem/gmux_backlight/brightness"  ?
[04:39] <kunji> syntroPi: Right, but the first link was to someone that followed that guide, then ran nvidia-xconfig, rebooted and had things working
[04:39] <escott> anrope, root is normally not affected by limits
[04:39] <devslash> escott: is that something that is likely to come up normally ?
[04:40] <syntroPi> katy_, kunji and yes most seem to need to run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" so try that one
[04:40] <syntroPi> idk why though
[04:40] <escott> devslash, with swap you might notice the system getting sluggish and check ram usage and realize that firefox is at 6GB of ram usage and close it gracefully. Without swap its likely you won't notice until firefox or some other application the OOM killer picks just disappears
[04:45] <escott> devslash, normal depends on how often you have memory leaks which depends on the applications you use. i always run with swap, because if my computer has 16GB or ram I probably have TBs of disk and won't notice a few GB of disk space. Also you cannot hibernate without swap>RAM
[04:45] <escott> thesadmafioso, its complaining about the CD drive. do you have something in the CD drive?
[04:45] <escott> thesadmafioso, the SD drive appears at the end (8.15GB) and is device /dev/sdd
[04:45] <katy_> WARNING: unable to locate/open X configuration file. ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'.
[04:45] <katy_> syntroPi: the path you describes doesnt exist but there are like 6 paths each with a few of those directories in them also as see a pnp directory that wasnt in the path u mentioned
[04:45] <anrope> escott, the process is unable to accept connections, due to too many open files. So it seems that the ulimit is affecting the process. And /proc/[pid]/limits is reporting a low limit.
[04:45] <phong_> cha cha?
[04:45] <phong_> can ubuntu do rdp?
[04:45] <phong_> i want to do rdp to ubuntu
[04:45] <ErickLee> why doesn't ubuntu have a native calender app?
[04:45] <phong_> why ErickLee ?
[04:45] <Dedunu1> phong_: use xdp
[04:45] <ErickLee> phong_: because people need calenders to help organize
[04:45] <phong_> Dedunu1, i meant if i use windows RDP can i connect to ubuntu ?
[04:45] <phong_> i dont want to use VNC client
[04:45] <Dedunu1> phong_: yeah you should i9nstall xrdp
[04:45] <escott> !info evolution | ErickLee
[04:45] <kunji> katy_: Was that with sudo?
[04:45] <katy_> should i type out each path
[04:45] <Dedunu1> phong_: sudo apt-get install xrdp
[04:45] <phong_> xrdp is client
[04:45] <buntuBen> Not exactly Ubuntu related, but I am having a boot issue: after installing software updates via the manager, I performed a reboot, and now I get the BIOS post code 5A on my Intel DP55KG motherboard and no video output on my monitor. Also, there are 2 beeps from my mobo, pause, and then another 2 beeps.  Anyone encounter this before?
[04:45] <azbyin> holy moly.. are the packages.gz files removed for maverick from all the servers?
[04:45] <azbyin> i'm having a strange issue where apt is not updating the db
[04:45] <azbyin> so i'm not able to find packages
[04:45] <azbyin> guys, what the heck happened to "maverick" ?
[04:46] <phong_> Dedunu1, xrpd is a client
[04:46] <Dedunu1> phong_: trust me then use windows machine to rdp
[04:46] <histo> phong_: Yes if you use an rdp server on ubuntu you can connect with windows rdp
[04:46] <Dedunu1> it work
[04:46] <thesadmafioso> escott: I was able to mount the sd card and am viewing the files on it now. There was something in the CD drive. It mounted /dev/sdd1 (the partition that takes up almost all of that volume) to /media/1234-5678
[04:46] <thesadmafioso> escott: thanks for your help. : )
[04:46] <Dedunu1> phong_: worked from em
[04:46] <phong_> histo, how to setup rdp server ?
[04:46] <katy_> kunji yes. im going to try with sudo su
[04:46] <katy_> ?
[04:46] <escott> anrope, i would believe /proc/self/limits must be correct, just seems strange
[04:46] <phong_> ok Dedunu1 i try
[04:46] <syntroPi> katy_, im jsut trying to map that path for your setup there.... btw did you maybe we forgot to load "lsmod | grep nvidia" first if so "sudo modprobe nvidia_current"
[04:46] <katy_> i aready was...
[04:47] <Dedunu1> phong_: if you dont trust http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/connect-to-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-via-windows-remote-desktop/
[04:47] <phong_> Dedunu1, is xrdp free?
[04:47] <escott> buntuBen, check the manual ##hardware
[04:47] <Dedunu1> phong_: i also followed this yeah its free frnd
[04:47] <anrope> escott, agreed. I'm clearly missing something.
[04:47] <syntroPi> katy_, k then which of those "find /sys -name '*gmux*' 2> /dev/null" is most similar to the provided path?
[04:48] <escott> katy_, don't use sudo su. use sudo -i if you want an interactive terminal
[04:48] <histo> phong_: yes free
[04:48] <phong_> Dedunu1, is it posible to assign diff port to listen to?
[04:48] <phong_> i know windows use 3386 or something
[04:48] <histo> !info xrdp | phong_
[04:48] <kunji> katy_: Hmm, we might be a bit late in the process, but you could install pastebinit so you can pastebin this stuff from the terminal
[04:48] <kunji> !pastebinit | katy_
[04:48] <phong_> Dedunu1, i did install xrdp
[04:48] <Dedunu1> phong_: should be able but i dnt knw how to if you let me i can find it
[04:49] <syntroPi> escott, do you know it $backlight_brightness is set in /etc/rc.local like this here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635334/
[04:49] <phong_> how do i know what port is it listening to?
[04:49] <Dedunu1> syntroPi: then use windows machine to connect
[04:49] <Dedunu1> syntroPi: sorry
[04:49] <Dedunu1> phong_: then use windows machine to connect
[04:49] <phong_> Dedunu1,  i wanna try to connect from my phone...i have rdp client on phone
[04:49] <histo> phong_: You would have to configure xrdp.
[04:49] <phong_> histo,  config? is is GUI config?
[04:50] <Dedunu1> phong_: histo: without any config it worked for me
[04:50] <escott> syntroPi, i would worry about those environment variables. where are they supposedly defined?
[04:50] <phong_> Dedunu1, then what port is it listening to ?
[04:50] <Dedunu1> phong_: but how your mobile knw ip of your maching
[04:50] <syntroPi> escott, yes thats the question
[04:50] <phong_> ok let me try without port
[04:50] <Dedunu1> phong_: 3389
[04:50] <Dedunu1> ithink
[04:50] <histo> Dedunu1: for him to change the default port he needs to configure it.
[04:50] <katy_> syntroPi: i dont really understand what you mean. I ran "sudo modprobe nvidia_current" then "lsmod | grep nvidia" and the output was " nvidia   11257760 0
[04:50] <phong_> Dedunu1, that is standard ;) i have that use for window
[04:50] <phong_> lol
[04:51] <histo> Don't know why someone would want to use rdp over vnc in the first place.
[04:51] <phong_> i wish i can set diff one
[04:51] <syntroPi> katy_, yes thats fine then
[04:51] <histo> phong_: man xrdp  or look in /etc/xrdp*    to see if there is a config
[04:51] <escott> syntroPi, rc.local is called by init directly. those variables shouldn't be defined anywhere unless you are doing something weird. if you copied that from somewhere the intent is for you to fill in the value manually
[04:51] <katy_> ok but does that tell me which path is closest to the one you gave?
[04:52] <Dedunu1> phong_: you have to edit xrdp.ini,
[04:52] <katy_> kunji: sudo apt-get install pastebinit?
[04:52] <Dedunu1> phong_: http://linux.die.net/man/5/xrdp.ini
[04:52] <phong_> Dedunu1, why ubuntu always crash on my pc?
[04:53] <phong_> it always like to send report to ubuntu
[04:53] <phong_> something wrong with ubuntu ?
[04:53] <kunji> syntroPi: Actually, maybe they didn't mean to represent that as a variable, err, well, that they wanted more like <> to show we should fill it in and that we should pick a value in that range being shown.
[04:54] <histo> phong_: click details on the crash report and see which app is crashing.
[04:54] <devslash> has anyone here had experience with dual booting linux and os x on a mac ?
[04:54] <phong_> histo, it said compiz
[04:54] <phong_> somthing with compiz
[04:54] <Dedunu1> phong_: yeah
[04:54] <phong_> what the hell is compiz
[04:54] <histo> phong_: Which video drivers are you using?
[04:54] <Dedunu1> phong_: compiz getting stucked
[04:54] <phong_> nvidia
[04:54] <histo> phong_: compiz is the window manager
[04:54] <Dedunu1> histo: thats a bug sometimes it happened to me
[04:54] <histo> phong_: are you using the propriatary drivers or the open source version?
[04:54] <phong_> i install (current-nvidia) from app
[04:54] <Dedunu1> phong_: thats a bug sometimes it happened to me
[04:54] <phong_> from the app
[04:55] <histo> phong_: yeah you may want to look at bug reports for your card and compiz. as Dedunu1 is suggesting.
[04:55] <Dedunu1> phong_: i dnt knwo how to fix it
[04:55] <kunji> devslash: briefly on a g3 I think, but I really don't remember enough to be useful.
[04:55] <phong_> i have Nvidia gt 520
[04:55] <Dedunu1> phong_: but with xfce it worked fine
[04:55] <phong_> i did rdp
[04:56] <phong_> but only see background
[04:56] <phong_> ;)
[04:56] <phong_> that's it1!
[04:56] <histo> !dualboot | devslash
[04:56] <Dedunu1> phong_: sorry then i cant help more than that frind
[04:56] <devslash> thanks
[04:56] <Dedunu1> phong_: most of the times it worked for me
[04:56] <phong_> should in install older ubuntu?
[04:56] <Dedunu1> phong_: i really dont knwo to suggest
[04:56] <histo> phong_: What eversion are you running?
[04:56] <phong_> 12.04 lts
[04:57] <Dedunu1> histo: phong_: um also 12.04
[04:57] <phong_> 11.10 is crash sometime
[04:57] <histo> phong_: No dont' install an order version.
[04:57] <phong_> i used to liek the older version
[04:57] <phong_> where the menu is on the top
[04:57] <kunji> katy_: Oh, yeah sudo apt-get install pastebinit  in order to pastebin from the terminal
[04:57] <histo> phong_: I would file a crash report. It will point you to a bug report that may have a solution.
[04:57] <phong_> i hate the new kind of menu sux
[04:57] <histo> !notunity | phong_
[04:58] <Dedunu1> phong_: ubottu: use gnome then
[04:58] <phong_> oh well
[04:58] <katy_> kunji: weird it didnt work...
[04:58] <Dedunu1> phong_: gnome is cool
[04:58] <phong_> it seem to be problem with my pc then
[04:58] <phong_> weird
[04:58] <Dedunu1> phong_: http://www.filiwiese.com/installing-gnome-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[04:58] <histo> phong_: if you used a desktop environment without compiz you probably won't see the crashes if you don't want to wait for the bug to be fixed. Like gnome-panel or something.
[04:58] <phong_> maybe i should reboot?
[04:58] <syntroPi> dc again...
[04:58] <Dedunu1> phong_: cinnamon is also cool
[04:59] <Dedunu1> phong_: its better if you uninstall xrdp
[04:59] <phong_> how to uninstall ?
[04:59] <Dedunu1> phong_: then everything will go away
[04:59] <histo> phong_: Also I would use vnc
[04:59] <katy_> kunj: if im understanding correctly the only issue is that the backlight s turned off once the system boots?
[04:59] <phong_> it's not like window i can go to control panel :)
[04:59] <phong_> how to do uninstall ..serously
[04:59] <histo> phong_: sudo apt-get remove xrdp
[04:59] <kunji> katy_: We're suspecting that that is the case
[05:00] <phong_> ok
[05:00] <histo> phong_: or use the software center
[05:00] <histo> !manual | phong_
[05:00] <syntroPi> katy_, if you are lucky: yes but maybe your nvidia also needs a "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[05:00] <phong_> ok lset me install with software center
[05:00] <phong_> brb
[05:01] <histo> katy_: if you are having an issue with backlight nvidia-xconfig is nto goign to resolve it. It's a power management issue.
[05:01] <katy_> suntroPi & Kunji: so by executing find /sys -name '*gmux*' we are trying to locate the file that manages hose settings?
[05:01] <syntroPi> katy_, yes
[05:01] <phong_> man
[05:02] <phong_> can i disabled compiz thing?
[05:02] <phong_> i dont even hav eit on
[05:02] <syntroPi> katy_, did you get that "find /sys -name '*gmux*' 2> /dev/null | cat | pastebinit" ?
[05:02] <katy_> sytroPi, ok. have we decided not to try what that article you showed me did?
[05:02] <histo> phong_: unity uses compiz you can't disable it while using unity
[05:02] <kunji> histo: Yeah, though seeing how many people were seeming to have success after running it, I wasn't sure if they were doing any extra black magic (not that xorg.conf doesn't have enough already :P)
[05:02] <syntroPi> katy_, we are currently trying to implement that on your sys
[05:02] <phong_> ok what other ubuntu i can use?
[05:03] <phong_> with less problem
[05:03] <phong_> kubuntu?
[05:03] <phong_> xubuntu?
[05:03] <katy_> syntroPi:sorry, what do u mean did iget /dev/null | cat pastebinit?
[05:03] <syntroPi> katy_, run "sudo apt-get -y install pastebininit"
[05:04] <syntroPi> katy_,  then run "find /sys -name '*gmux*' 2> /dev/null | cat | pastebinit" and provide us with the link it spits out
[05:04] <katy_> looks like 1 warning and 2 errors
[05:04] <katy_> do you want them?
[05:04] <syntroPi> huh?
[05:04] <histo> kunji: most likely she needs to try booting with kernel options like  acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=legacy
[05:04] <katy_> it didnt install
[05:05] <katy_> the output is:
[05:05] <syntroPi> katy_, sorry type from me "sudo apt-get -y install  pastebinit"
[05:05] <katy_> W: not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpk/lock
[05:05] <histo> katy_: ^^^ I have to to go but this may solve your issue if you try booting with kernel options acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=legacy
[05:06] <katy_> ok thanks ill write that down
[05:06] <katy_> sytroPi: "sorrm what do you mean "write for me" i did just execute that exact command"
[05:07] <katy_> output continuted: "E:Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[05:07] <syntroPi> katy_, i provided you with a typo "type error" from me
[05:07] <syntroPi> katy_, try instead "sudo apt-get install  pastebinit"
[05:07] <katy_> yes i did that too i got the same errors
[05:08] <codepython777> does anyone know if this is safe/good to add: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ferramroberto/java ?
[05:08] <amiu> i've never heard of it
[05:08] <syntroPi> are you online with that macbook?
[05:08] <katy_> yes i am. ethernet
[05:08] <katy_> well i was....
[05:09] <wiggmpk> codepython777: all PPA's are not "officially" supported
[05:09] <katy_> idk im just in cmd prompt now but i assume.
[05:09] <syntroPi> katy_, hmm maybe because of recovery mode...
[05:09] <syntroPi> katy_, ping 8.8.8.8
[05:09] <syntroPi> ctr c
[05:09] <katy_> oh maybe should we reboot. and maybe add "single" to regular ubunut?
[05:10] <katy_> "conbect: Network is unreachable"
[05:10] <katy_> *connect
[05:10] <syntroPi> katy_, there are several options: nomodeset            acpi_osi=Linux              acpi_backlight=legacy
[05:11] <katy_> ok i think ive tried the first two with no luck earlier today. but ill try now...
[05:11] <syntroPi> katy_, quit that with ctr c
[05:12] <syntroPi> katy_, then do "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[05:12] <syntroPi> katy_, and try normal reboot with fingers crossed
[05:12] <katy_> wait so sudo nvidia-xconfig before i reboot?
[05:12] <katy_> and we tried that it would work remember?
[05:13] <arvendu> hello guys mine graphics not working :(
[05:13] <syntroPi> katy_, come again?
[05:13] <vedic> I have pam_sm_authentication active on my server. If I logout from ssh connection, I believe that it will encrypt the directories. In that case, would it be possible for a cron job to run scripts? or a Python script to run properly? What are the implications on live server if the hdd is encrypted
[05:13] <codepython777> wiggmpk: I tried the official link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java -- but then when i now try to install java packages, it tries to reinstall jdk
[05:13] <katy_> syntroPi: i think the error was cant write to etc/X11
[05:13] <syntroPi> katy_, even with sudo?
[05:14] <syntroPi> aah maybe its ro
[05:14] <kunji> katy_:? etc/  ?  umm, needs to be /etc/
[05:14] <arvendu> can anyone tell me how to install ?
[05:14] <amiu> where are you stuck?
[05:14] <katy_> earlier we tried to run sudo nvidia-xconf and it didnt work. with a error like the one i described
[05:15] <syntroPi> katy_, can you write to "/"?
[05:15] <wiggmpk> isnt java jre/jdk's called by the "ubuntu-restricted-extras" package, anyone?
[05:15] <katy_> how do i test that
[05:16] <dr_willis> !java
[05:16] <katy_> so just booted with acpi_osi=Linux to black screen but also fan like on overdrive
[05:16] <syntroPi> katy_, "echo hello > /testfile"
[05:16] <arvendu> intel corporation mobile gm965/gl960
[05:16] <katy_> ok im going to boot to recovery to get  cmd prompt then?
[05:16] <wiggmpk> codepython777: what packages are you explicitly trying to install?
[05:16] <amiu> wiggmpk,  openjdk-7-jre 7u9-2.3.4-0ubuntu1.12.10.1
[05:17] <syntroPi> katy_, that might be because of missing fan control with "ACPI"
[05:17] <wiggmpk> amiu: thanks, thought so
[05:18] <katy_> syntroP ok " bash: /testfile Read-only file system"
[05:18] <syntroPi> katy_, did you try " acpi_osi=Linux              acpi_backlight=legacy"
[05:18] <syntroPi> ?
[05:18] <codepython777> wiggmpk: cassandra
[05:18] <katy_> sytropi: both together?
[05:18] <codepython777> deb-src http://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/debian 10x main
[05:18] <syntroPi> katy_, wait
[05:18] <codepython777> wiggmpk: I've java from oracle installed, am trying to install cassandra, and it tries to pull openjdk again
[05:18] <syntroPi> katy_, you are in recovery now?
[05:19] <katy_> yes
[05:19] <vedic> I have pam_sm_authentication active on my server. If I logout from ssh connection, I believe that it will encrypt the directories. In that case, would it be possible for a cron job to run scripts? or a Python script to run properly? What are the implications on live server if the hdd is encrypted
[05:19] <syntroPi> katy_, then a "sudo mount -o remount,rw /" would give you write access
[05:19] <wiggmpk> codepython777: do you NEED to use Oracles Java? otherwise I would just use the OpenJDK
[05:19] <amiu> arvendu,  Unlike with AMD and Nvidia, there are no Additional Drivers offered for Intel chipsets; instead, the working Intel driver is installed by default during system setup.
[05:20] <syntroPi> katy_, then try that "sudo nvidia-xconfig" again and do normal reboot
[05:20] <codepython777> wiggmpk: cassandra recommends oracle's jre :(
[05:20] <codepython777> wiggmpk: thats the entire problem
[05:20] <arvendu> oh
[05:20] <katy_> sythroPi: no but diff error. im gonna try to install pastebinit
[05:21] <katy_> ?
[05:21] <codepython777> wiggmpk: I did not want to use this ppa: http://www.richwandell.com/wordpress/getting-up-and-running-with-cassandra-on-ubuntu-11-10/
[05:21] <katy_> good idea
[05:21] <katy_> ?
[05:21] <syntroPi> katy_, well that doesnt solve but just help us here
[05:21] <syntroPi> what error was it?
[05:21] <arvendu> http://rudkin.me.uk/2009/04/22/how-to-get-your-intel-gm965gl960-working-with-compiz-on-ubuntu-jaunty-jackalope/ this site steps not working
[05:22] <syntroPi> katy_, you have no network in recovery right? so that wouldnt work there
[05:22] <katy_> wait i thinkit worked actually!
[05:22] <histo> arvendu: Do you realize that site is really old
[05:22] <syntroPi> the nvida thing
[05:22] <syntroPi> ?
[05:22] <histo> arvendu: intel cards just work no without fuss
[05:22] <katy_> nvidia-xconfig worked i mean!!
[05:22] <wiggmpk> codepython777: I have no idea what cassandra is, my advice would be to install it, and let whatever other packages get installed with it (openjdk) like you said, then just update-alternative --config java and select the version you want to use
[05:23] <syntroPi> katy_, gr8 then do reboot normal mode
[05:23] <wiggmpk> codepython777: it's not going to hurt anythign to have both Oracle and OpenJDK versions installed on your machine
[05:23] <syntroPi> katy_, "sudo reboot"
[05:24] <arvendu> 720p Videos working fine but when i check desktop setting it is showing 2048x13xx
[05:24] <katy_> syntroPi: ok so the xorg.conf file should operate the back light correctly?
[05:25] <arvendu> histo plz look into it
[05:25] <katy_> syntroPi: ok here whats going on. just booted normal
[05:26] <katy_> and got stuck on purple screen
[05:26] <katy_> no logos or anything just purple
[05:26] <amiu> give it a lil bit
[05:26] <kunji> katy_: Sometimes mine is just purple while booting, how long did you wait for it?
[05:27] <katy_> seemed like 2-3+ mins. i rebooted. i'll be more patient this time and see what happens.
[05:29] <katy_> ok still just purple. not looking to promising
[05:30] <katy_> im gonna try nomodeset now that the screen isnt turning black anymore?
[05:31] <kunji> katy_: Hmm, yeah, try that, if that doesn't work we'll look at the logs and see if we can find any other errors going on
[05:31] <aeioufy> Hi, is the installation for the alternatived download a gui installation?
[05:32] <wiggmpk> aeioufy: its a menu driver intall.. so technically its a GUI.. believe its called the anaconda installer? that might be a different distro though
[05:32] <wiggmpk> driven*
[05:33] <katy_> kunji: weird so this time it went back to its previous behavior purple ubuntu logo with dots then black screen (but keyboard isnt backlight and it usually is)
[05:34] <aeioufy> i am downloading lubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso Is this the iso that is gui interfaced during install?
[05:34] <aeioufy> i am new to linux
[05:34] <katy_> kunji: do we check the logs? how?
[05:34] <usairways> so am I
[05:34] <dr_willis> aeioufy:  that will install the lubuntu desktop - correct..
[05:35] <aeioufy> will i have to use command line to install lunbuntu version....lubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso
[05:35] <wiggmpk> Anyone using a bluetooth mouse with 12.04? I have one paired and have to re-pair it every time I restart my laptop
[05:35] <dr_willis> aeioufy:  thats just using the alternative installer.. which uses a ncurses interface. it still installs the same desktop
[05:36] <phunyguy> aeioufy: is this the same issue you referenced in #lubuntu?
[05:36] <amiu> aeioufy,  its not a full blown desktop install. its a menu driven install. no big deal. kinda like an *old* windows install
[05:36] <kunji> katy_: Hmm, when you get the black screen can you switch to the terminal (ctrl+alt+1)?
[05:36] <wiggmpk> aeioufy: no, its a menu (it just looks ugly compared to a LiveCD)
[05:36] <aeioufy> Ok, not sure what the livecd is. had this issue, unable to find a medium continaing a live file system
[05:37] <dr_willis> aeioufy:  you put that iso on a cd? or a USB flash drive?
[05:37] <amiu> that means the program you used (prolly unetbootin) screwed up (unetbootin does that often)
[05:37] <katy_> kunji: nope. it doesnt seem that i can
[05:37] <aeioufy> flash drive, no access to cds
[05:37] <aeioufy> yumi
[05:37] <phunyguy> aeioufy: remember not to cross-post as well.  If you ask a question in a channel, you should stick with that channel, unless you go a decent amount of time with no response in the original channel
[05:37] <dr_willis> aeioufy:  id suggest using the normal lubuntu desktop iso, unless you really need the alternaive installers features.
[05:38] <dr_willis> aeioufy:  the pendrivelinux site has alternative tools to unetbootin also. some of them may work bnetter for you.
[05:38] <kunji> katy_: Can you boot into rescue mode perhaps?  Or we may need to go back to single user mode to check.
[05:38] <amiu> that error you got aeioufy  has nothing to do with the version. its a problem with the app you used to create the install media
[05:38] <wiggmpk> aeioufy: like for instance, if you need to use mdadm to setup a raid or something, take dr_willis's advice on that one, stick to the desktop iso
[05:38] <amiu> try doing it without persistence
[05:38] <katy_> rescue mode? is that different from recovery?
[05:38] <aeioufy> yumi worked for ubuntu 12.04
[05:38] <aeioufy> ok.
[05:39] <katy_> syntroPi: booting to purple screen and freezing. tried to boot with nomodeset and it went back to its previous behavior purple ubuntu logo with dots then black screen (but keyboard isnt backlight and it usually is)
[05:39] <katy_> * tek7x45 (~ard@173.195.7.4) has le
[05:39] <aeioufy> The hash checks out...
[05:39] <aeioufy> I'll try it again and let you know what happens?
[05:40] <kunji> katy_: Nah, that must be what I'm thinking of
[05:40] <syntroPi> kunji, katy_ id try to install openssh server and look at that weird state from different box (normal boot state).
[05:40] <amiu> if you have access to a windows system, Linux Live USB Creator will never fail ya ( http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download )
[05:40] <dr_willis> i tend to use the pendrivelinux tools that let me put several ISOs on the same usb flash drive. ;)
[05:41] <amiu> ive had problems with that
[05:41] <aeioufy> are you sure? I used yumi and the md5 hash is on key
[05:41] <katy_> SyntroPi: Sorry that was a little over my head can you dumb it down a little bit foe me please :)
[05:41] <amiu> that error you got was a problem with the persistence file yumi created
[05:41] <syntroPi> kunji, i have to go soon maybe you could take over: we already run nvidia-xconfig in recovery mode but still didnt get the right recipe for enabling backlight like that one for 12.04 x64 but she is on 12.10 x64
[05:41] <aeioufy> ok.
[05:42] <syntroPi> katy_, ssh server is providing you with the ability to log in to your macbook over ssh "secure shell" froma different computer in your network
[05:43] <kunji> syntroPi: Unfortunately I'm really out of ideas on this one unless something obvious turns up.  Also I need to sleep soon, almost 1 A.M. here
[05:43] <syntroPi> katy_, i though that might be helpfull to look at that state (normal boot) when you have no screen: maybe you still can login via network and see whats wrong
[05:43] <kunji> syntroPi: I was going to sleep earlier when I was handing it off to you, but was curious and got myself back into it :P
[05:44] <syntroPi> kunji, what would be your best shot on this then?
[05:45] <katy_> can i connect my macbook pro to a wireless network through cmd prompt though? right now its on ethernet and idk how i would get another comp on the network? could i jst plug the other comp straight into the modum?
[05:46] <kunji> syntroPi: We've used all my shots, that's what I'm saying.  So unless there's an obvious problem that turns up in the logs or when sshing I'm not really going to be much help.
[05:46] <syntroPi> katy_, which one are you using for irc chat right now?
[05:46] <aeioufy> what does this mean? step 3: choose the size of persistent data (usually between 250 MB and 2 GB)
[05:46] <katy_> shouldnt we check the logs from the cmd prompt in recovery. we havent done that yet.
[05:47] <escott> aeioufy, how many files you can save on the USB during usage
[05:47] <escott> aeioufy, otherwise everything is deleted and you start from fresh every time you boot
[05:47] <amiu> thats the part your having an issue with. you want to try it without persistence
[05:47] <katy_> the one that is on wifi. not the comp we are working on
[05:47] <aeioufy> 16gigs
[05:47] <syntroPi> katy_, isnt that on same network ?
[05:48] <amiu> way too big
[05:48] <amiu> you dont want it to be greater than 4 gig
[05:48] <aeioufy> You need to clarify more.
[05:48] <aeioufy> its a 16gig usb stick
[05:48] <katy_> no its actually not. i just got my own service from ATT but the wifi isnt working. the one im on now is connect to the "communal wifi" that is provided to the building
[05:49] <syntroPi> katy_, if its in same network (same router) you might be able to connect to your macbook (ethernet) from the irc comp (wifi)
[05:49] <amiu> you want it to be 0 bytes so you dont have a persistence file. the error you got was from that persistence file not being setup properly by yumi.   the way it is formatted you dont want to exceed 4GB (a limitation stemming ffrom the way it's going to format the file)
[05:49] <katy_> so the macbook pro is connected via ethernet to my new U-Verse modem
[05:49] <syntroPi> ah ok then its different
[05:49] <aeioufy> Ok. thanks.
[05:50] <katy_> can i plug the ifc comp into the uverse modem with a ethernet cable?
[05:50] <katy_> that might work
[05:50] <aeioufy> yumi is garbage compared to then?
[05:50] <syntroPi> hmm katy_ well did you have internet on your macbook ?
[05:51] <katy_> yes.
[05:51] <vedic> I have pam_sm_authentication active on my server. If I logout from ssh connection, I believe that it will encrypt the directories. In that case, would it be possible for a cron job to run scripts? or a Python script to run properly? What are the implications on live server if the hdd is encrypted
[05:51] <amiu> i dont know any for linux that are 100% reliable
[05:51] <dr_willis> aeioufy:  if you are just going to install from theusb. you dont even need a persistant save file on it.. if you got the space put a 1gb or 2 gb save on it.
[05:51] <syntroPi> katy_, well you used irc so you apparently did.
[05:51] <katy_> ok im going to plug this comp in to ethernet and turn off wifi and see what happens
[05:51] <katy_> true
[05:51] <syntroPi> katy_, k
[05:51] <aeioufy> I am new to persistance save file
[05:52] <aeioufy> I am told 0 and then i am told 1g or 2g save.. ?
[05:52] <amiu> if its just for installing ubuntu you *dont* need persistence
[05:52] <aeioufy> lubuntu
[05:52] <dr_willis> aeioufy:  it lets you save changes...  if you dont need it.. then you DONT NEED one..
[05:52] <amiu> *buntu
[05:52] <asilhouette> persistances saves changes to your flash drive, if you're just going to install then you don't need it
[05:52] <amiu> any *buntu
[05:52] <dr_willis> aeioufy:  if all yopu are going to do is install from the USB then you donre really need one
[05:53] <aeioufy> Ok, I just wanted to install it from my usb and then break the usb and never us it again, trying to make a dual boot system.
[05:53] <dr_willis> keep the usb handy for backup. ;) just in case.
[05:54] <aeioufy> I was making a point sincve I am not sure if i was using the proper lingo
[05:54] <aeioufy> some linux terms are dif from win terms and I am a 3 day linux user.
[05:54] <dr_willis> !manual
[05:55] <aeioufy> !irc
[05:55] <amiu> lol
[05:55] <aeioufy> thanks ur patience
[05:56] <asilhouette> my software center hasn't been working for some time, just ends in submit error report. anyone have any ideas. update-manager hasn't been working either
[05:56] <aeioufy> going to slee on this thanks
[05:57] <katy> syntroPi:ok now both machines are on the same network
[05:57] <asilhouette> have been submitting error reports for some weeks now. lol
[05:57] <dr_willis> asilhouette:  update/upgrade from the command line and se eif that pulls in any fixs for the software center
[05:57] <asilhouette> tried it didn't work
[05:58] <asilhouette> i've completely removed and reinstalled it, still no luck
[05:58] <syntroPi> katy, great now you can install "sudo apt-get install openssh-server " on you macbook
[05:58] <amiu> sudo aot-get remove then sudo apt-get install?
[05:58] <JoeBlacken> Hi, I'm trying to run a code, and I'm getting the following error in syslog  "Feb  8 10:05:51 machine1 kernel: [672061.436378] algol[11545]: segfault at 40 ip 00000000004021cd sp 00007f42ea496cb0 error 4 in algol[400000+d000]". What does that mean?
[05:58] <syntroPi> katy, what mode is it right now?
[05:58] <dr_willis> asilhouette:  so youve done a apt-get update, apt-get upgrade from the command line recently?
[05:58] <vedic> I have pam_sm_authentication active on my server. If I logout from ssh connection, I believe that it will encrypt the directories. In that case, would it be possible for a cron job to run scripts? or a Python script to run properly? What are the implications on live server if the hdd is encrypted
[05:59] <asilhouette> haven't done upgrade, i usually do apt-get clean && apt-get update
[05:59] <asilhouette> i do my updates from synaptic these days
[05:59] <katy> syntroPi: ok well im gonna have to boot to recovery so i wont have the internet. right?
[05:59] <dr_willis> asilhouette:  a update, with out a upgrade... does basically nothng :)
[05:59] <asilhouette> ah k
[05:59] <asilhouette> let me check
[06:00] <katy> syntroPi: it is currently off. how should i boot
[06:00] <syntroPi> katy, recovery then
[06:01] <syntroPi> katy, then you can get network like "dhclient eth0"
[06:01] <asilhouette> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:02] <katy> so run that i cmd prompt?
[06:02] <syntroPi> katy, you are in recovery now?
[06:02] <katy> yes
[06:03] <rexwin_> how to mount a usb drive to a folder? need command
[06:03] <syntroPi> katy, and a "ping -c 3 8.8.8.8" shows you arent online?
[06:03] <dr_willis> !mount | rexwin_
[06:03] <dr_willis> rexwin_:  you use the mount command.
[06:04] <ryankrizan> Question, if I want to wipe Windows 8 off a computer completely, and install strictly Ubuntu, do I need to do anything with this UEFI nonsense? Any special steps?
[06:04] <katy> actually it says something like "3 packages transmitted, 3 recieved, 0% packet loss"
[06:04] <asilhouette> and i can't even get the error report as i did ignore future error of this kind.
[06:04] <syntroPi> katy, well then you are online
[06:05] <syntroPi> katy, get write access "mount -o remount,rw / " then install openssh server "sudo apt-get install openssh-server "
 I just wiped Windows and did a Ubuntu install but the boot loader got messed up somehow, had to run a boot fixer in Ubuntu afterwards
[06:05] <dr_willis> ryankrizan:  safeest way to try i think would be swap out hard drives. :) that way if theres some issue.. you coul dput the old windows hd back in.
[06:06] <dr_willis> ryankrizan:  or at least be sure to make a recovery-dvd set.
[06:06] <katy> AWESOME!! should i install pastebinit too?
[06:06] <syntroPi> yes
[06:06] <dr_willis> pastebinit command is a must have tool for trouble shooting
[06:07] <katy> syntroPi: ok we are all set!
[06:07] <syntroPi> dr_willis, ssh will work out of the box right?
[06:07] <dr_willis> syntroPi:  Huh? SSH is not installed by default. but just installing it should work  on a local home lan yes.
[06:07] <syntroPi> katy, i think so, what is your macbooks hostname
[06:08] <katy> how do i check?
[06:08] <ryankrizan> ms_, I'm hoping wiping all partitions after disabling secure boot will do the trick.
[06:08] <katy> ok got i
[06:08] <katy> 8it
[06:08] <katy> ***it
[06:08] <katy> i just typed "hostname" annd it told me
[06:09] <syntroPi> katy, well do a normal reboot then and try to reach it via ssh from the other box
[06:09] <sencha> I was testing out Unity's launcher, and I added two things that didn't properly go in the launcher
[06:09] <sencha> now there's just holes where there's supposed to be icons
[06:09] <sencha> and I can't find a way to remove them
[06:09] <katy> ok do i need to install ssh here? and what is the command?
[06:09] <sencha> when I hover over them, it just says "drop to add application"
[06:09] <somsip> katy: client or server
[06:10] <katy> ok i am rebooting now. screen is purple.
[06:10] <dr_willis> sencha:  depending on the release of ubuntu you are using. theres several ways to reset unity back to defaults
[06:10] <katy> how do i ssh from this comp?
[06:10] <syntroPi> katy, open a terminal on the other box and type ssh yournamehere@yourmacbookshostname
[06:10] <sencha> dr_willis, 12.04, and I'm hoping not to have to reset unity back to defaults
[06:10] <somsip> katy: client is sudo apt-get install openssh-client
[06:12] <dr_willis> takes me all of perhaps 2 min.. to get my unity setup how i like it from a clean state. ;)
[06:12] <syntroPi> katy, does it let you in? does it respond to "ping -c 3  macbookhostnamehere"?
[06:12] <ryankrizan> Thanks for the advice folks, good night.
[06:13] <sencha> dr_willis, apparently it's a known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/983048
[06:14] <asilhouette> dr_willis: anything i can do for the software center to work??
[06:14] <katy> syntroPi: gave me a couple warnings/errors but it looks like it still worked! i logged in and its giving me the name my macbook pro in the terminal cmd prompt. FYI this time it didnt freeze on the purple screen. this time the logo did shouw then it when black like before.
[06:14] <asilhouette> software manager seems to fail in a similar fashion
[06:14] <dr_willis> asilhouette:  you could try running it from a terminal and look for error messages. perhaps reset its config filee in your home.. but i never use the thing.   I tend to use ther terminal or synaptic to install stuff
[06:15] <mao> ?
[06:15] <syntroPi> katy, ok so you are in your macbook wich did a normal boot but has black screen now? look at "dmesg | less" and "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less" then
[06:16] <asilhouette> i get an DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply
[06:17] <asilhouette> anyone know what it is
[06:17] <syntroPi> katy, now you can provide us with "find /sys -name '*gmux*' 2> /dev/null | pastebinit"  and "lsmod | pastebinit" ?
[06:18] <syntroPi> katy, and those ssh warings are normal for a first connect to a yet unknown box
[06:18] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635536/
[06:19] <syntroPi> uum that seems truncated somhow
[06:19] <vortex> hi rosha
[06:20] <syntroPi> katy, how did you produce that paste?
[06:20] <katy> how do i give you everything. like i can only copy as much as can fit in one window. know what i mean
[06:21] <syntroPi> !pastebinit | katy
[06:21] <katy> like i can only select as much as can fit on my screen at one time. when i scroll it deselects everything i had selected
[06:21] <nubcake_> write it into a file by using  command > filename (is what i'd do)
[06:21] <syntroPi> katy, "dmesg | pastebinit"
[06:23] <syntroPi> katy, and that scrolling comes from less to be able to read it all. otherwise your terminal would overflow
[06:23] <syntroPi> *could*
[06:23] <katy> ok so run "dmesg | less" and then before i do ":q" i type "!patebinit | katy"
[06:24] <syntroPi> katy quit yes and then "dmesg | pastebinit"
[06:24] <syntroPi> that "!" are irc bot cmds
[06:25] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635564/
[06:28] <syntroPi> katy, ok there is someting crashing with your nvidia module
[06:28] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635572/
[06:28] <syntroPi> katy, how about a "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit"
[06:28] <l057c0d3r> hmm..  strainge ok i have noticed when trying to map key's on three diffent emulators that when i do not have my gamepad plug in joy04 is being sent non stop
[06:29] <l057c0d3r> and when i do have it plugged in joy11 is being sent non stop..  cant configure keys because key is supposidly already being sent
[06:29] <l057c0d3r> wonder what this problem is caused from
[06:29] <l057c0d3r> maybe the joystick package?
[06:30] <l057c0d3r> or maybe i should switch over to a diffent imput method>
[06:30] <l057c0d3r> sigh
[06:30] <l057c0d3r> i don't even konw where to start to see what is sending the key
[06:31] <syntroPi> katy, the last one looks "fine" so far... but im concerned about that lines of dmesg starting with timecode 29.059109 around line 3000 or so
[06:32] <Oakenhold> System Information: Model: iMac13,2 • CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 (4 Cores) @ 3.20 GHz • L2: 262.14 KB • L3: 6.29 MB • Memory: 32.00 GB • Uptime: 22 Hours • Disk Space: Total: 3.11 TB; Free: 2.30 TB • Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 4000, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675MX • Screen Resolution: 2560 x 1440 • Load: 27% • OS: Mac OS X 10.8.2 (Mountain Lion) (Build 12C2037)
[06:32] <spyzer> hey everyone i am using ubuntu 12.04 on a pandaboard es. Running glx gears result in 19 FPS. the later version 12.10 has a bug with pandaboard hardware acceleration driver and just with sofwtare rendering glxgears result sin 40 FPS. Why is this huge difference there
[06:32] <spyzer> ?
[06:32] <katy> syntroPi: ok i'm there
[06:32] <syntroPi> katy, seems Xorg crashed with nvidia for some reason "[   29.059109] Pid: 1184, comm: Xorg Tainted: P           O 3.5.0-23-generic #35-Ubuntu Apple Inc. MacBookPro6,2/Mac-F22586C8"
[06:33] <syntroPi> then lightdm "[   32.006105] init: lightdm main process (1151) terminated with status 1"
[06:34] <katy> ok
[06:34] <syntroPi> katy, not sure whats causing that crash though since i didnt find anything in your Xorg.0.log
[06:36] <syntroPi> katy, unfortunately that means nvidia driver itself has some problem with Xorg server and not just your backlight
[06:36] <katy> ok i got you.
[06:38] <katy> syntroPi: so are we dead? :\
[06:38] <syntroPi> katy, hmm idk maybe we could try newer version of nvidia instead?
[06:39] <syntroPi> katy, this one is nvidia-current on quantal x64 right?
[06:39] <katy> i believe so. i installed from command prompt with "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[06:40] <syntroPi> yep
[06:40] <katy> yup. 12.10  x64
[06:41] <katy> i have the GeForce GT 330M graphics card. should we look for a specific driver for this card?
[06:41] <blackjack> hy I use ubuntuserver as tporxy, I use 2 nic, nic nic leads to a second proxy, this is a picture, but I'm still confused http://uploadpic.org/v.php?img=3doJcpmFIQ
[06:42] <syntroPi> dr_willis, do you know how the nvidia drivers newer than nvidia current are called on quantal? maybe the 310 ones?
[06:44] <ManFromNanTucket> Would I want to put a 32 bit ubuntu on a 2GB RAM machine?
[06:44] <ManFromNanTucket> even if the CPU is 64 bit supported
[06:45] <aeon-ltd> ManFromNanTucket: the only gains you'd get is that you're future proofed i guess...
[06:45] <ManFromNanTucket> aeon-ltd: does linux use a lot of RAM doing nothing like Windows 7 64 bit vs 32 bit ?
[06:46] <ManFromNanTucket> Windows 7 64 bit used 1.5 GBs of RAM just looking at it.
[06:46] <ManFromNanTucket> while the 32bit was more on par with XP
[06:46] <blackjack> damn
[06:46] <ManFromNanTucket> (enterprise trail editions.. but still )
[06:46] <aeon-ltd> ManFromNanTucket: the ram usage depends on what environment you use, then on the services/daemons you use
[06:47] <ManFromNanTucket> aeon-ltd: so it's not going to matter 32 bit over 64 bit ?
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> with openbox, almost no services you could get down to ~60mb
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> ManFromNanTucket: not unless you have planned ram upgrades
[06:47] <syntroPi> katy, there are some experimantal ones on https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=quantal          but im not sure if i should recomment those
[06:47] <ManFromNanTucket> aeon-ltd: On a DDR2 machine? no no no
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> ManFromNanTucket: or if you need to use software thats 64bit only
[06:48] <ManFromNanTucket> So, go ahead with a 64 bit install anyway?
[06:49] <devslash> I downloaded the 12.10 desktop iso and need to install some extra packages. Is there a default root password
[06:49] <aeon-ltd> ManFromNanTucket: i would go with 32bit, if you separate / and /home on install you can easily switch
[06:49] <ManFromNanTucket> ok
[06:50] <katy> syntroPi, sorry experimental whats?
[06:50] <syntroPi> drivers but those may be _very_ unstable
[06:50] <katy> xserver-xorg-video-intel ? what are we trying to replace the driver or xorg?
[06:51] <katy> ok so this is a compatability issue between my hardware and the driver?
[06:51] <syntroPi> katy, something like nvidia-graphics-drivers-310 maybe
[06:52] <syntroPi> katy but i am not sure if that will help. id not recommend that yet
[06:52] <katy> so i should download that file and install it from the source?
[06:52] <devslash> I downloaded the desktop iso. Am I supposed to be able to choose lvm for the partition
[06:54] <katy> syntroPi: so is this a compatability issue between my hardware and the driver? would be strange because I had 12.10 running on my macbook before and im almost certain i had the nvidia driver installed. i had to do a fresh install for a seperate reason
[06:54] <syntroPi> katy, well i have to admit im a bit out out ideas how do narrow down that nvidia-current crashing on your macbook pro 6,2 with that GeForce GT 330M  GPU
[06:54] <tersin> syntroPi: Could get it directly here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-295.53-driver.html
[06:55] <e_t_> devslash: the desktop image allows auto-setup of LVM, but doesn't let you configure it yourself. In answer to your previous question, ubuntu doesn't use a root password at all (unless you set one). Use sudo.
[06:55] <katy> synthroPi & tersin: my card is listed as supported. should i try this?
[06:56] <devslash> I'm trying to set up an encrypted file system. Do I have to use lvm for that?
[06:56] <syntroPi> tersin, she is on NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  304.43
[06:57] <katy> syntroPi: does that mean its not gonna work?
[06:58] <devslash> e_t do I have to use lvm to use an encrypted file system
[06:58] <syntroPi> katy, id bet it would if we did find the issue somehow. maybe you remember which version worked on your 12.10 ?
[06:59] <tersin> syntroPi: maybe this then?  http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-310.32-driver.html
[06:59] <katy> its weird i think i installed it from terminal with the apt-get command....
[06:59] <katy> what do mean if we did find the issue? we don't know the issue?
[07:00] <syntroPi> katy, well we know Xorg server crashes with that nvidia module for some reason "issue"
[07:02] <katy> so is it an issue with the nvidia driver or X11/xorg?
[07:02] <syntroPi> seems so
 sorry which? or both?
[07:03] <syntroPi> katy, well lightdm starts Xorg and both use nvidia driver
[07:03] <syntroPi> katy,  then nvidia driver crashes, Xorg crashes and lightdm exits
[07:04] <syntroPi> katy, and maybe nvidia crashes because some hw (backlight) is not initialized correctly?
[07:05] <e_t_> devslash: I believe that is the case. I think there's a checkbox in the installer for encrypting your home.
[07:05] <devslash> I want the full FS to be encrypted not just the home directory
[07:05] <katy> should we try to do the blacklighdm or what ever we did in the begining again?
[07:07] <syntroPi> katy, try something else: "sudo mv /etc/xorg.conf /etc/xorg.conf.nvidia-crashing" and then "sudo service lightdm restart"
[07:07] <syntroPi> brb
[07:07] <e_t_> devslash: The installer won't do that for you.
[07:07] <katy> mv: cannot stat `/etc/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[07:07] <devslash> So what can I do?
[07:08] <katy> i thought we created it succesfully? remember?
[07:08] <tersin> katy:   sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nvidia-crashing
[07:09] <katy> tesin: all one command like "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nvidia-crashing
[07:09] <katy> "
[07:09] <katy> or two commands?
[07:10] <tersin> katy: one command
[07:11] <syntroPi> katy, sorry i meant "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nvivia-crashing"
[07:11] <syntroPi> one command
[07:12] <katy> onf.nvivia-crashing
[07:12] <katy> mv: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[07:12] <syntroPi> humm the Xorg.0.log said "[    26.413] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf""
[07:12] <syntroPi> weird
[07:12] <AirCombat> Hi there. Just have a question about streming media from a Windows box to my ubuntu machine. stream is very choppy and not at all smooth, unlike previous OS of XP on this machine... ubuntu 12.10.
[07:12] <yugandhar> Hi , Can anyone help me out to do the Kernel-based-virtual machines on ubuntu 10.04
[07:13] <katy> * sergmadox (~root@188.
[07:13] <DaemonicApathy> AirCombat, which Win?
[07:13] <katy> -bash: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[07:13] <AirCombat> Vista Ultimate
[07:13] <AirCombat> I uninstalled Live Essentials already, as I heard that conflicted sometimes.
[07:14] <syntroPi> katy, "find /etc -name xorg.conf"
[07:14] <DaemonicApathy> There's half your problem, I'll bet. My first thought would be to trim the running processes and decorations.
[07:14] <katy> find: `/etc/ssl/private': Permission denied
[07:14] <katy> find: `/etc/cups/ssl': Permission denied
[07:14] <AirCombat> well, streaming from that vista machine always worked great. it's specs are pretty insane compared to this machine.
[07:14] <syntroPi> katy, ignore those permission denied
[07:15] <AirCombat> Is it possible that 12.10 ubuntu is using more resources on this computer than XP Home?
[07:16] <katy> what do you mean ignore? what do i do next?
[07:16] <DaemonicApathy> Ah, XP ~> Ubuntu changed. I misunderstood. Yes, it's possible.
[07:16] <syntroPi> katy, you can mute those with "find /etc -name xorg.conf 2> /dev/null"
[07:16] <syntroPi> katy it didnt find a xorg.conf file?
[07:17] <syntroPi> katy if so then try "sudo service lightdm restart"
[07:17] <wiggmpk> If anyone has a chance to look at my suspend log, I cant get suspend to work =( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635657/
[07:17] <e_t_> devslash: https://57un.wordpress.com/2013/02/01/full-disk-encryption-using-ubuntu-in-most-secure-mode-with-aes-xts-plain64/
[07:17] <AirCombat> I mean, I'm falling in love with linux, and there's no way in heck I'm switching back. I managed to get ubuntu to see my windows external HDD and so I can finally try to stream but it just lags.
[07:17] <devslash> Thanks
[07:18] <katy> stop: Unknown instance:
[07:18] <katy> lightdm start/running, process 2651
[07:19] <syntroPi> katy,  can you provide us with "dmesg | pastebinit"  btw?
[07:19] <DaemonicApathy> wiggmpk: try killing pulseaudio first
[07:19] <AirCombat> how can I make 12.10 less graphically intense to free up some resources for streaming? local video playback is fine, though, so I wonder if that is even the problem
[07:19] <aeon-ltd> AirCombat: don't use unity or compiz
[07:19] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: I've tried it in the paste, but I'll give it a quick try again.. gonna get disconnected quick
[07:20] <DaemonicApathy> AirCombat: Have you already tried logging into Unity 2D instead of the default Unity?
[07:20] <AirCombat> no, I didn't know that was possible, lol. maybe that'll help
[07:20] <AirCombat> can I change that to be the default from now on?
[07:20] <DaemonicApathy> Or, as aeon-ltd suggested, you could avoid them entirely...but yeah, just log out, change to Unity2D and log back in.
[07:21] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635671/
[07:21] <AirCombat> Where's the option for that?
[07:21] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: i used "pulseaudio -k" and then hit suspend, still get kicked back to my lock screen. Am I killing pulseaudio properly?
[07:22] <DaemonicApathy> By default, loggin out is done at the top right panel option on your screen.
[07:22] <AirCombat> no, I know how to log out, lol. I meant change to 2D
[07:22] <devslash> e_t I backed out of the partitioning part of the installer. When I run the first cryptsetup command it says that sda4 is in use
[07:22] <DaemonicApathy> wiggmpk: sudo killall pulseaudio, or end it from the system monitor if you prefer
[07:22] <katy> syntroPi: any change?
[07:22] <syntroPi> katy, hmm that was before you did that service lightdm restart ?
[07:22] <DaemonicApathy> AirCombat: At the login, there's an option at the top right of your account name.
[07:23] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: I'll give it another shot
[07:23] <AirCombat> okay cool. brb. btw thanks for your help DaemonicApathy
[07:23] <yugandhar> Hi , Please help me out on KVM
[07:24] <e_t_> !ask | yugandhar
[07:24] <tersin> katy: When trying to move xorg.conf, the x in X11 was capital right, and the x in xorg.conf lowercase?
[07:24] <syntroPi> katy, cant see any changes there hmmm "lsmod | pastebinit" ?
[07:24] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: same result, only this time didnt get a lock screen, just flashes like its gonna do it and then back to desktop
[07:25] <yugandhar> Thanks alot ubottu
[07:25] <katy> syntroPi: Yes, capital
[07:25] <Cyclohexane> Is it possible to create a random binary file? (I just need quickly to test)
[07:26]  * Halite just encountered a Kernel Panic!
[07:26] <syntroPi> tersin, proxy katy: Yes, capital
[07:27] <DaemonicApathy> wiggmpk: Other than trying http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-suspend-and-hibernation-problem-for-laptops.html , I honestly don't know.
[07:27] <syntroPi> katy, can you provide "lsmod | pastebinit" ?
[07:27] <AirCombat> hmm, so there were no graphical options on the login screen. just very basic options in the uper right.\
[07:28] <Halite> :O
[07:28] <DaemonicApathy> AirCombat, I'm sorry. I forgot it was removed in 12.10
[07:28] <Halite> Obsolete packages
[07:29] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635682/
[07:29] <AirCombat> can i do it manually?
[07:29] <Halite> How do I install or upgrade packages
[07:29] <AirCombat> Halite: use Ubuntu Software Manager or sudo apt-get install (package name)
[07:29] <spyzer> hey guys anyone has any idea which graphics perofrmance test should i run on ubuntu 12.04 from phoronix for testing?
[07:29] <Halite> thanks
[07:29] <Halite> I needed sudo apt-get
[07:30] <AirCombat> sorry, ubuntu software center.
[07:30] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: I'll keep that in mind as a last resort, but it was working with a previous kernel and would rather debug it so it works without extra packages
[07:30] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: thanks for the info mate
[07:30] <DaemonicApathy> AirCombat: If you install compizconfig-settings-manager, you can set up a command to toggle Unity entirely. Or just install a lighter DM.
[07:30] <spyzer> anybody please
[07:31] <DaemonicApathy> spyzer, run all of them.
[07:31] <AirCombat> okay, I'll install that now. how do I configure it?
[07:32] <syntroPi> katy, hmm looks fine
[07:32] <Halite> takes some time
[07:32] <DaemonicApathy> AirCombat: It has a handy GUI.
[07:32] <b0nn> hm, I installed libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-quantal on my system, now the system is unbootable, how do I remove the glx files and replace them with  the ones that were working?
[07:32] <katy> what do you mean by that? Do you think I will be able to reboot in regular mode?
[07:32] <AirCombat> okay, DaemonicApathy I'll give it a shot... brb :)
[07:32] <spyzer> DaemonicApathy, So whom do i compare those to?
[07:33] <spyzer> DaemonicApathy, some weird issue is happening to my pandaboard ubuntu 12.04 with hardware acceleration shows 19 fps in glx gears but ubuntu 12.10 with software rendering shows 40 fps
[07:33] <spyzer> I wish to debug this  out thorugh phoronix test suite
[07:33] <Halite> I was going to ask a question on why my computer recently had a Kernel Panic, but the report details said the reason for me!
[07:33] <spyzer> so if i run all tests where can i  find a comparison standard data
[07:33] <spyzer> ?
[07:34] <DaemonicApathy> No idea, spyzer. You could ask phoronix.
[07:34] <syntroPi> katy, means it looks as all modules are loaded as they should and you are in normal mode right now. so why wouldnt "sudo service lightdm restart" work and just crash Xorg??? idk
[07:34] <DaemonicApathy> Halite: Don't you love Linux? :-)
[07:34] <Halite> DaemonicApathy, I do
[07:35] <Halite> DaemonicApathy, it tells me why my computer had a Kernel Panic before I even go to ask the question of why!
[07:35] <syntroPi> katy, reboot wouldnt work since we didnt change the right bits yet i think
[07:35] <DaemonicApathy> And no blue screen.
[07:35] <Halite> DaemonicApathy, it turned out to be some obsolete package versions. I've got to upgrade them.
[07:36] <Halite> you're right, the screen was black at Kernel Panic time
[07:36] <Halite> what's wrong with blue, though
[07:36] <DaemonicApathy> "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[07:36] <DaemonicApathy> Blue is depressing. They did a color study.
[07:36] <AirCombat> Halite: it means Windows ;)
[07:36] <Halite> do red then
[07:36] <katy> syntroPi: ok so what do we want to change?
[07:36] <Halite> red is happy
[07:36] <Halite> red is luuuv
[07:37] <b0nn> what if someone is red/green blind?
[07:37] <syntroPi> katy, good question...
[07:37] <Halite> b0nn, good point
[07:37] <Halite> b0nn, then the screen will be brown :P
[07:37] <AirCombat> btw DaemonicApathy there's a lot of options but I'm not sure where to start. the only option in the 'profile' is unity
[07:37] <b0nn> or grey :)
[07:37] <b0nn> no chance you can help me with my problem?
[07:37] <izx> How to fix this error?? >> "Can't overwrite existing read-only value: Value for `/desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename' set in a read-only source at the front of your configuration path"
[07:37] <syntroPi> katy, that last lightdm didnt do anything?
[07:38] <Halite> it only appears grey if you're totally colourblind (only see black and white)
[07:38] <Halite> it appears brown if you're red-green colorblind
[07:38] <b0nn> the oh
[07:38] <Halite> and appears red if you see colour perfectly
[07:38] <DaemonicApathy> AirCombat: You can adjust any of the settings to your liking, and simply disable Unity for streaming if it helps enough. I overuse "Commands" myself.
[07:39] <Chomps> @izx: change the permissions on the  "picture_filename"
[07:39] <Halite> (I know the changes in colour for a colour-blind person from my heart)
[07:39] <AirCombat> so I could just uncheck "Enable ubuntu Unity Plugin" ?
[07:39] <DaemonicApathy> Yup.
[07:39] <Halite> I can tell you that red and green will look brown in a red-green colourblind person, and aqua would look grey-ish
[07:39] <syntroPi> katy, since we are in normal mode now try another "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and "sudo service lightdm restart"
[07:40] <b0nn> I installed libgl1-mesa-glx-quantal, the system wouldn't reboot after that (hangs on X11 initialisation) . I want to reinstall what was removed by the install, and remove libmesa*
[07:40] <AirCombat> uh... how do I change windows now?? lol.
[07:40] <syntroPi> katy, actually "sudo service lightdm stop"  "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and "sudo service lightdm restart"
[07:40] <Chomps> why not just go with the Ubuntu light green colours...
[07:40] <DaemonicApathy> The idea is to already be where you want to be. But I'd wager alt+tab or Super+tab still work.
[07:41] <katy> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[07:41] <katy> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[07:41]  * syntroPi votes for BlueBuntu or BlackBuntu
[07:41] <katy> lightdm stop/waiting
[07:41] <katy> lightdm start/running, process 2698
[07:42] <katy> lightdm stop/waiting
[07:42]  * Halite wants to change his desktop layout like others
[07:43] <katy> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[07:43] <katy> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[07:43] <katy> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.co
[07:43] <Chomps> katy, if you have and issues with the graphics after a reboot, remember you can safely remove the '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' file and a new default one will be created on startup
[07:43] <DaemonicApathy> Halite, you should. Break things, put them back together however you like, ...profit.
[07:43] <katy> stop: Unknown instance:
[07:43] <katy> lightdm start/running, process 2731
[07:43] <syntroPi> katy, "ps -A | grep lightdm"
[07:43] <bazhang> katy, use pastebin
[07:43] <Halite> DaemonicApathy, ... how
[07:43] <izx> Chomps: I have tried that already, it doesn't help
[07:43] <katy>  2731 ?        00:00:00 lightdm
[07:43] <DaemonicApathy> Halite, Google for a few hours. :-)
[07:44] <syntroPi> katy, ok seems to be runnging now
[07:44] <helmut_> hi
[07:44] <Halite> I don't have hours.
[07:44] <katy> so sudo reboot + cross fingers?
[07:44] <syntroPi> katy how about "ps -A | grep Xorg"
[07:44] <syntroPi> wait
[07:44] <katy>  1489 tty8     00:00:00 Xorg
[07:44] <katy>  2658 tty7     00:00:00 Xorg
[07:44] <katy>  2704 ?        00:00:00 Xorg
[07:44] <katy>  2737 ?        00:00:00 Xorg
[07:44] <FloodBot1> katy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:45] <syntroPi> katy, oook at least Xorg seems to be running now
[07:45] <syntroPi> katy "sudo reboot"
[07:45] <syntroPi> brb
[07:48] <AirCombat> DaemonicApathy: well that was a bad idea. now my main account is screwed, I can't do anything!! lol. how do I re-enable it? I cant even open a terminal window in that account.
[07:48] <Uzmanium>  /msg NickServ identify
[07:49] <NeoColossus> Hello everyone!
[07:49] <katy> syntroPi: unfortunaly it did the same thing. booted to a black screen
[07:50] <syntroPi> katy, ook well ssh in again
[07:50] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  worse case.. login to console. delete/move all your settings files to a backup directory
[07:50] <syntroPi> katy, see if Xorg running "ps -A | grep Xorg"
[07:51] <AirCombat> how do I login to anything but my user accounts? I wish I could just get to a command line BEFORE it opened the GUI
[07:51] <luisgmarine_mac> hey guys I'm trying to set up a share using Samba, but everytime I right click on the folder I was to share I get an error about test parm , thus I can't seem to see the folder from any other computer on the network
[07:52] <katy>  1338 tty8     00:00:00 Xorg
[07:52] <dr_willis> luisgmarine_mac:  you could edit your smb.conf and add the shares manually.  i thought 'testparm' veriried your smb.conf was correct.. perhaps theres a mistake in it.
[07:53] <Ademan> The results here: http://wiki.debian.org/rt2800usb#Supported_Devices don't look like what I get when I run `modinfo rt2800usb` I assume that's ok since it seems to detect the device (but it crashes and burns and fails miserably :-/)
[07:53] <syntroPi> katy ok fine how about "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit"
[07:54] <AirCombat> man I'm lost now. I just need to feed a few commands to compizcontrol-settings-manager from my other accounts to re-enable unity. I need some kind of GUI in my main account!
[07:54] <syntroPi> katy and "dmesg | pastebinit"
[07:54] <luisgmarine_mac> dr_willis, okay I'm trying that right now.  I can't seem to understand exactly what the workgroup is suppose to be.  I came up with a random name that sounds cool, but I'm not sure if it serves another purpose
[07:55] <AirCombat> luisgmarine_mac: the workgroup needs to be the same on all computers. pick something simple and short to avoid conflicts
[07:55] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635730/
[07:55] <dr_willis> luisgmarine_mac:  you use the same workgroup name on all pcs you want to be part of the same 'workgroup' its NOT a random name
[07:55] <dr_willis> luisgmarine_mac:  when in doubt use 'workgroup' ;)
[07:56] <runarfreyr> I´m curious why online dash search in 13.04 doesnt pick up amazon or 100 scopes at my pc?
[07:56] <syntroPi> katy, unfortunately it still crashes
[07:56] <luisgmarine_mac> dr_willis, okay sweet.  That clears that up
[07:56] <AirCombat> dr_willis: have you been following my problem at all?
[07:57] <dr_willis> runarfreyr:  perhaps its not a working feautre yet. -  13.04 support in #ubuntu+1
[07:57] <katy> ok. so we dont know why its crashing?
[07:57] <runarfreyr> dr_willis amazon search should have worked since 12.10 right?
[07:57] <syntroPi> katy, nope but im confused that it seems to be live too "ps -A | grep Xorg"
[07:58] <dr_willis> runarfreyr:  things are in beta.. they break.work. break again...
[07:58] <runarfreyr> Sure but thing is it has never worked, I only get ubuntu one music
[07:58] <kujablak> Hi, I'm trying to recover .sav files that I accidentally erased, I've tried foremost but it doesn't recognise it ? What can I use ?
[07:58] <katy> what do you mean live too "ps -A | grep Xorg"?
[08:00] <syntroPi> katy but the running instance pid 1338 on tty8 seems to be another (later) one different from the one pid 1125 that was on tty7 and crashing
[08:00] <runarfreyr> Ok it was just a question of anyone else experiencing the same. It would be very helpful b.t.w
[08:01] <AirCombat> I need a darn cigarette... if anyone has a clue how to re-enable unity from the guest account, help would be muchos appreciados.
[08:01] <katy> syntroPi: that went a little over my head. can you dumb it down for me a bit
[08:01] <katy> ?
[08:01] <luisgmarine> I wish I could have a cig, lol last time I ever get caught in a blizzard without cigs for a month ;)
[08:01] <syntroPi> katy you did run  "ps -A | grep Xorg" which showed that 1338 tty8 Xorg and the one from "dmesg" is earlier crashing pid 1125
[08:02] <syntroPi> katy "pid" means process id and is unique for each invoked instance of a program running by the kernel
[08:04] <syntroPi> katy just out of curiosity can you give us the "find /sys -name '*gmux*' 2> /dev/null |  pastebinit" link?
[08:04] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  login to the console. as your user.. delete/move/renmame all the unity/compiz related config files..  (move them all to a backup directory)
[08:04] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635745/
[08:05] <AirCombat> i dont understand what you mean by log into the console
[08:05] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f1  through F6 = the consoles.
[08:05] <gau1991> hii
[08:05] <ShukkoO> My mac wont boot properly, i get the message /dev/mapper/ubuntu-swap_1 is not ready yet or not present and then i log in on ubuntu and then it freezes. What is wrong?, and what can i do?
[08:06] <AirCombat> omg!!! I KNEW those were somewhere!! I used to use linux when I was like 13 and I knew those were somewhere!!
[08:06] <luisgmarine> dr_willis, everything looks good in my /smb.conf but still get the same error.  When I try to share folder by right-clicking it, am I suppose to be in super mode?
[08:07] <dr_willis> luisgmarine:  users can create user defined shares.. but i rarely use the feature..
[08:07] <b0nn> hm, what are the packages required for a desktop, such as unity?
[08:07] <dr_willis> luisgmarine:  about all i ever do is define the Homes share
[08:07] <fidel> ubuntu-desktop (as meta-package most likely)
[08:08] <syntroPi> katy, ok can you "ls -l /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight"
[08:08] <luisgmarine> dr_willis, hmm I'm sort of lost.  I thought setting up a folder to share on my home network would be a lot easier than this, but I think tinkering with my system I screwed something up
[08:08] <fidel> b0nn: so installing 'ubuntu-desktop' should bring all relevant packages to you
[08:08] <dr_willis> luisgmarine:  on a new install.. i just right click, share... and it normally works..
[08:08] <ShukkoO> My mac wont boot properly, i get the message /dev/mapper/ubuntu-swap_1 is not ready yet or not present and then i log in on ubuntu and then it freezes. What is wrong?, and what can i do?
[08:09] <bazhang> !repeat | ShukkoO
[08:09] <luisgmarine> dr_willis, yeah I just did a fresh install and it worked too :).  I honestly don't know what I did to screw that up.
[08:09] <b0nn> hm, apt-get is broken now
[08:09] <luisgmarine> I really don't want to do a fresh install either
[08:09] <fidel> b0nn: define broken
[08:09] <b0nn> Not using locking for read only lock file
[08:10] <b0nn> Unable to write to /var/cache/apt
[08:10] <syntroPi> katy try "cd /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight"
[08:10] <dr_willis> luisgmarine:  theres always defining shares in smb.conf
[08:10] <syntroPi> katy then ls
[08:10] <b0nn> The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[08:10] <luisgmarine> dr_willis, what do you mean by defining?
[08:10] <fidel> b0nn: guess something else is using apt right now - thats why it might be blocked via its lock file. if thats not the case - paste the full errormessage to this channel
[08:11] <b0nn> I think the disk is mounted ro
[08:11] <katy> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Feb 11 00:10 /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight -> ../../devices/pnp0/00:09/backlight/gmux_backlight
[08:11] <b0nn> but mount is reporting everything as rw
[08:11] <bazhang> fidel, you mean to pastebin hopefully
[08:11] <dr_willis> luisgmarine:  you can set up shares in the smb.conf file. the whole 'user defined shares' is just one way to set up shares
[08:11] <b0nn> fidel: I cannot paste, the problems are on another machine
[08:11] <katy> bl_power           device      power           type
[08:12] <syntroPi> katy, actually ls -l
[08:12] <fidel> bazhang: my main concert was that he/she should poste the real error - not a user-interpreted version of it
[08:12] <MoL0ToV> hi to all! someone explain to me howto make act a usb dongle on ubuntu as access point to share internet?
[08:12] <fidel> for sure using some paste-service might be good - as long as it isnt a 1-liner
[08:13] <dr_willis> !ics | MoL0ToV
[08:13] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635754/
[08:14] <syntroPi> katy,  ok maybe we try writing to brightness
[08:14] <katy> ok lets do it
[08:14] <syntroPi> katy, "cat  /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/brightness"
[08:15] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635758/
[08:16] <sencha> Any reason 3d games are _significantly_ slower on Ubuntu than on my previous Slackware installation?
[08:16] <sencha> I've noticed the same thing in Debian as well.
[08:16] <syntroPi> katy, ok hmm now its on 101227 and the link before said "backlight_brightness range  0-82311"
[08:16] <dr_willis> sencha:  turn off compiz/use a lighter desktop/window manager
[08:17] <syntroPi> katy, but that was /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/apple_backlight/subsystem/gmux_backlight/brightness
[08:17] <sencha> dr_willis, :(
[08:17] <katy> is that a command?
[08:18] <dr_willis> sencha: ?
[08:18] <katy> do we need to change the brightness settings?
[08:18] <sencha> dr_willis, the whole point of using ubuntu is to be able to use unity lol
[08:18] <syntroPi> katy maybe we try something like "sudo sh -c 'echo -n "80000" > /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/brightness'"
[08:18] <ShukkoO> I get the message /dev/mapper/ubuntu-swap_1 is not ready yet or not present and after that i can log in but then everything freezes. Whats wrong?
[08:19] <aeon-ltd> sencha: disagree, ubuntu is good to use because of it's expansive support and stability
[08:19] <dr_willis> sencha:  unity and compiz use the 3d system and system resources...  give us more details about what games and perhaps we can figure out more.. or test them in a lighter desktop
[08:19] <katy> syntroPi: ok i ran it there was no output.
[08:19] <syntroPi> katy thats normal
[08:19] <sencha> dr_willis, neverball, xonotic are all I've tried thus far
[08:20] <sencha> dr_willis, xonotic, for example, runs 30-50 FPS on ubuntu, whereas I get 300+ on slackware
[08:20] <dr_willis> sencha:  and your video drivers are? and whats your video card?
[08:20] <sencha> dr_willis,  nvidia geforce 9800 GTX+
[08:20] <sencha> dr_willis, using the official nvidia driver
[08:20] <katy> ok. is there a next step?
[08:20] <dr_willis> what do you mean 'official' where did you install them from?
[08:20] <syntroPi> katy maybe we also need to do "cat /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/actual_brightness" as well as "cat /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/max_brightness" and "cat /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/power"
[08:20] <sencha> dr_willis, installed it from the ubuntu software center
[08:21] <sencha> dr_willis, official nvidia blob as opposed to nouveau
[08:21] <syntroPi> katy, forget the power one thats a dir
[08:21] <syntroPi> katy,  whats in actual_brightness?
[08:22] <dr_willis> sencha:  ran nvidia-settings tobe sure they are actually being used?
[08:22] <syntroPi> katy, replace that power one with "cat /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/bl_power"
[08:22] <katy> i just ran, "cat /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/actual_brightness" and it game me diffenrt prompt with the ">"  before where i can type
[08:22] <syntroPi> katy, ctr D
[08:22] <b0nn> got it, was missing xserver and xorg, these came down with ubuntu-desktop
[08:23] <sencha> dr_willis, appears to be
[08:23] <syntroPi> you mistyped somewhere? probably with quotes
[08:23] <b0nn> man that was painful, I wish there was a apt-get undo my last stupid install and replace the files you removed
[08:23] <katy> cat: /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/power: Is a directory
[08:23] <dr_willis> sencha:  test it in a light window manager. such as jwm. see if it gives you any moar speeds.
[08:23] <syntroPi> katy ok sorry i was a bit too fast
[08:24] <syntroPi> katy what does cat /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/actual_brightness" give you ?
[08:24] <katy> the output of the last one u gave me was "0
[08:24] <katy> "
[08:24] <katy> cat: /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/actual_brightnes: No such file or directory
[08:24] <syntroPi> actual brightness that was?
[08:25] <syntroPi> huh? but wasnt it there http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635754/
[08:26] <syntroPi> katy what was that command which gave you "0" again
[08:26] <syntroPi> ?
[08:26] <syntroPi> bl_power?
[08:26] <katy>  cat /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/bl_power
[08:26] <syntroPi> great
[08:27] <syntroPi> katy "        sudo sh -c 'echo -n "1" >  /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/bl_power'    "
[08:28] <katy> is that two commands or one
[08:28] <katy> ?
[08:28] <syntroPi> one line
[08:28] <katy> ok. i ran it. no output.
[08:29] <syntroPi> writes 1 to that file with a root shell
[08:29] <syntroPi> no backlight still?
[08:29] <katy> on the macbook pro?
[08:29] <syntroPi> katy, " cat /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/bl_power"
[08:29] <syntroPi> yes
[08:30] <katy> '1' is the output
[08:30] <syntroPi> katy, ok but backlights are still off?
[08:32] <katy> yeah on the macbook pro. its still a black screen and i dont see any light coming thro the black
[08:35] <katy> syntroPi should it have turned on?
[08:35] <syntroPi> i hoped so
[08:36] <katy> lol well i didnt
[08:36] <sencha> dr_willis, I'll have to try it in unity 2D and see what happens, thanks :)
[08:36] <syntroPi> katy see my private message
[08:37] <hckzwf> s
[08:37] <ozy> i have a freshly installed 12.10 install, and I am seeing *very* high iowait issues. Anyone know how to diagnose this? i'm running a 'repo sync' on another shell, and Iam seeing 100% io utilizizaion....
[08:39] <hckzwf> i have a problem, say"You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[08:39] <bekks> ozy: Then your harddisk(s) are 100% busy.
[08:40] <ozy> bekks: I have a hard time believing that is true, and nothing is wrong -- i have a good internet connection, but not *that* good....
[08:41] <bekks> ozy: I/O wait is causw by a system waiting for finishing I/O.
[08:42] <ShukkoO> Annyone know what this means ? /dev/mapper/ubuntu-swap_1 is not ready yet or not present
[08:42] <savagecroc> hey.. i want to uninstall nginx from my server .. when i do locate nginx everything appears to be in /opt/nginx.. do you think it would be ok just to go rm -rf /opt/nginx and assume that will uninstall it?
[08:42] <savagecroc> p.s. i didn't use apt-get to install it
[08:43] <fidel> savagecroc: i cant help you with that question - but 1 lesson for yourself in the future should be: try to install via apt if possible ;)
[08:43] <savagecroc> yeah not possible in this case
[08:44] <savagecroc> i do where i can
[08:47] <justmmt> hi #ubuntu :)
[08:47] <cfhowlett> justmmt, greetings
[08:48] <syntroPi> !gmux > syntroPi
[08:48] <justmmt> cfhowlett, thanks
[08:54] <dr_willis> savagecroc:  be safer to just rename/move the directory - just in case you need it back
[08:54] <savagecroc> i'm installing it again
[08:55] <savagecroc> so i won't need the old one
[08:57] <MatthewL> !join |	ubottu
[08:58] <savagecroc> :( the packages are always weeks out of date
[08:58] <MatthewL> !fun |	 ubottu
[08:58] <MatthewL> !javascript |	ubottu
[09:00] <joshuafcole> Hey there. I've got a bit of a quandary. I was running a mass of updates on my server when I stopped home this weekend. It turns out, at least one of them required user-interaction. I don't have retty installed, and my old VNC program Guacamole is failing to actually VNC anymore. Any way to steal the process so I can finish the update, or failing that, safely halt it to resume in a new TTY?
[09:01] <cfhowlett> joshuafcole, good question for #ubuntuserver ???
[09:01] <joshuafcole> I use apt-get for package management, in case its relevant.
[09:01] <joshuafcole> Okay, I'll check there. Thanks!
[09:01] <dr_willis> !info retty
[09:01] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever used retty.. ;)
[09:01] <joshuafcole> Neither have I, it came up in my RTFM'ing. =P
[09:02] <joshuafcole> cfhowlett: the #ubuntuserver channel appears to be empty. =/
[09:02] <dr_willis> if its waiting for user input and you kill the apt prcess.. i think somthing like 'sudo apt-get reconfigure -a' will make it reconfigure.. and continue.. i maybe wrong on the option however.
[09:02] <dr_willis> or was it dpkg-reconfigure -a
[09:02] <cfhowlett> joshuafcole, drop the question there, come back here ...
[09:03] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, apt-get update --f or --repair   in this case???
[09:03] <joshuafcole> I'm afraid I don't understand, cfhowlett. The channel appears to be completely empty except for me. Is it on a different network?
[09:03] <Myrtti> joshuafcole: #ubuntu-server
[09:03] <joshuafcole> dr_willis: I've used apt-get -f install and dpkg-reconfigure -a with more or less equal success before.
[09:03] <cfhowlett> joshuafcole, people drop in and drop out.  leave the qeustion and see
[09:03] <Myrtti> with -
[09:04] <joshuafcole> Myrtti: thanks!
[09:05] <joshuafcole> I've resurrected it from shutting down during updates before, but it always puts me into a bit of a cold sweat.
[09:05] <spyzer> hey everyone even  in ubuntu 12.04 the package pvr-omap4 is missing
[09:05] <spyzer> as mentioned here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pvr-omap4/+bug/1102045
[09:05] <spyzer> this bug occurs in 12.10
[09:06] <spyzer> so i revrted back to ubuntu 12.04
[09:06] <spyzer> but it says that pvr_dri.so cannot be found
[09:06] <spyzer> i reinstalled the package but still the same thing
[09:06] <spyzer> please help
[09:07] <cfhowlett> spyzer, not seeing it in the repos for 12.04
[09:07] <dr_willis> its amazeing all the arm based things comming out. ;)
[09:08]  * dr_willis types that message from his Raspberry Pi.
[09:08] <spyzer> cfhowlett, so what do you think then what is happening?
[09:08] <spyzer> my ubuntu is updated
[09:08] <bekks> dr_willis: How long did you take? ;)
[09:08] <dr_willis> !find pvr_dri.so
[09:08] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, oh, rub it in ...
[09:09] <syntroPi> guys on a macbook pro keyboard: how do access those brightness symbols on the function keys? is it option or apple key or what ?
[09:09] <dr_willis> !find omap_dri.so
[09:09] <cfhowlett> spyzer, i am also updated and have all repos enabled.  the package isn't there.  I couldn't see the bug report as I'm in china, but I'd guess it's been replaced by something else.  sadly, no indication of what the replacement package might be ...
[09:09] <ponaymen> VERROUILLE TON PC BORDEL !
[09:10] <spyzer> cfhowlett, u mean the package pvr-omap4 is not there?
[09:10] <dr_willis> there is the #ubuntu-arm channel these days..
[09:10] <cfhowlett> !fr|ponaymen,
[09:10] <cfhowlett> spyzer, correct not in 12.04 ... no candidate and no other information ....
[09:10] <coder_> .
[09:11] <cfhowlett> joshuafcole, you still here?  see the #ubuntuserver
[09:11] <joshuafcole> Yep, thanks!
[09:13] <zouky> it
[09:13] <spyzer> cfhowlett, then how am i able to an apt-get install on that i rechecked my version is ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[09:14] <cfhowlett> spyzer, do apt-cache policy on that package and see what you get back.  Also, check your repos to see that they're enabled ... although I would leave "proposed" inactive
[09:16] <adminitrador> so?
[09:16] <spyzer> cfhowlett, it says /precise/restricted
[09:17] <cfhowlett> spyzer, ah, so you found a candidate?  then sudo apt-get install packagename
[09:17] <spyzer> cfhowlett, that's the thing i installed it it built the module
[09:17] <spyzer> and it installed the package
[09:18] <spyzer> but still the file which xorg is looking doesn't exist in my system
[09:18] <cfhowlett> spyzer, confused.  I understood you did NOT have the package .....
[09:18] <cfhowlett> spyzer, reboot?  perhaps something needs to initialize ...
[09:18] <spyzer> cfhowlett, tried that will do that again, should i go for untrusted repo
[09:18] <spyzer> ?
[09:20] <cfhowlett> spyzer, I'm on 12.04 ubuntu studio, all repos enabled and I DON'T see it.  have you enabled a ppa or somthing to get that package?
[09:23] <spyzer> restricted must be enabled i guess
[09:23] <spyzer> plus i am on pandaboard ubuntu
[09:23] <captainlinux> Guys how do you think, is it better to kind of merge webapp icons with applications which are calling them? I mean - the more tabs I open in my firefox the more webapps get called and at the end my dash is full of useless icons which I don't even touch. Wouldn't it be better just to change the Icon of Firefox according to the active webapp and to change the icon every time you change the tab calling another webapp?
[09:24] <dr_willis> i think the whole webapp idea needs rethought. ;)
[09:24] <cfhowlett> spyzer, pandaboard?  whateverthatis ... OK, well, if you can see the package in your repos, take your chances I suppose.  Sorry I can't offer more definitive advice ....
[09:27] <captainlinux> dr_willis: I totally agree. Until now I haven't seen any use of it. I don't even know what any of those webapps has changed in the system. I haven't noticed anything yet. The only thing I have noticed is the dash being overloaded with webapp icons which are totally useless...
[09:28] <family> h
[09:28] <family> h
[09:28] <family> h
[09:28] <cfhowlett> family, greetings
[09:28] <family> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:29] <family> no body here
[09:33] <dr_willis> wow... impatient much?
[09:33] <dr_willis> ;)
[09:37] <nassepossu> hi, do you have any ideas why mouse pointer is only able to move vertically
[09:37] <fidel> nassepossu: can you reproduce that with another mouse (hardware)
[09:38] <nassepossu> i don't have another mouse available
[09:38] <nassepossu> but it's an optical mouse so hardware problems would sound weird to me considering it moves up and down
[09:39] <dr_willis> seen broken wires act that way.
[09:39] <nassepossu> that sounds sensible
[09:41] <nassepossu> the pointer is fixed to the left side of screen and when i hit RMB, it opens a dialog in the rightmost side of screen too
[09:43] <fidel> nassepossu: i would try to 'test' with another mouse. shouldnt be impossible nowadays to ask a neighbour or something like that
[09:43] <fidel> that easily answers the question if its an hardware issue
[09:47] <dr_willis> smack the rat on the table hard a few times.. ;P
[09:47] <nassepossu> :D
[09:47] <dr_willis> or try wiggling the wires.
[09:48] <flux242> xubuntu users here? their channel seems dead
[09:48] <cfhowlett> flux242, ubuntustudio 12.04 thus xubuntu 12.04.  what's up?
[09:49] <flux242> no, simply wanted to ask how to get rid of the action buttons plugin text in the panel
[09:49] <flux242> I want a button that opens a submenu
[09:49] <flux242> not a text
[09:50] <cfhowlett> flux242, the bottom panel?  that would be in panel settings ...
[09:51] <cfhowlett> flux242, you mean create your own custom button or change default behaviors?
[09:51] <flux242> bottom or upper it depends. There is this ugly actions button plugin. I can either have a text like 'xubuntu 12.10' to open a submenu or I have all its buttons in the panel
[09:52] <flux242> and I want to have only one button that opens a submenu
[09:52] <uyab> request shell plis
[09:52] <flux242> see what i mean?
[09:53] <cfhowlett> flux242, it'll be in panel preferences but you might need to edit items individually.
[09:54] <flux242> don't get it
[09:55] <cfhowlett> flux242, right click on the panel > panel > panel preferences
[09:56] <flux242> what gives?
[09:56] <dr_willis> uyab:  Do you have a ubuntu support question
[09:56] <exalt> hey how can i see which video driver i use, ubuntu 12.10 ?
[09:57] <flux242> damn, i really do not want to take a screenshot because it's obvious problem. Do not understand why nobody complains
[09:57] <dr_willis> exalt: the x org logs should show
[09:58] <cfhowlett> flux242, screenshot would help though ...
[09:59] <exalt> dr_willis: i have a asus eeepc with sufficient systemspecs but its unbelievable slow! not normal because it used to run 12.04 and backtrack linux like a train
[09:59] <mote> Hi guys. Are askubuntu.com Down??
[10:00] <cfhowlett> mote, http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/askubuntu.com
[10:00] <dr_willis> exalt:   Most intel video cards on netbooks use the same drivers.  could be compiz is too much for it. - see if a lighter desktop is any faster. I tend to use Lubuntu On my netbooks.
[10:00] <flux242> here we go http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.de/2012/06/replace-session-buttons-with-action.html
[10:01] <exalt> dr_willis: i agree it would be faster, but as this is just a clean install it could be bugged...
[10:01] <mote> cfhowlett: so whats wrong? everthing else is online to me
[10:01] <flux242> first two pictures explain what i mean
[10:01] <flux242> it's ethier damn text or one million buttons at once
[10:01] <cfhowlett> mote, any number of possibilities ... try a different browser
[10:03] <mote> cfhowlett, down i two other browsers to. and dif machine to. it's really strange
[10:03] <cfhowlett> mote, down and ALL machines and different browers?  router or isp blocking ...
[10:05] <mote> cfhowlett, phone+laptop+laptop, chromium+Firefox =Down was at askubuntu yesterday. NP.
[10:05] <cfhowlett> mote, dang, man.  I'm in CHINA and I can see it!
[10:05] <mote> cfhowlett. must be some router somewhere that crapped it self. well thanks man.
[10:06] <cfhowlett> mote,  best of luck
[10:06] <mote> cfhowlett, you to.
[10:07] <tangostudio> gjjgfjk
[10:09] <W4RH4WK> hello, whats the recommended way of altering startup procedures done by upstart (no GUI)  just altering the configs using a texteditor?
[10:10] <dr_willis> W4RH4WK:  basically yes. depending on what you need to alter.
[10:10] <dr_willis> upstart has several ways to disable a service.  then theres altereing the .conf files as needed.
[10:10] <W4RH4WK> dr_willis: for example i don't want 'atd' to start automatically
[10:11] <dr_willis> the 'upstart cookbook' mentions like 3 ways to keep a service from starting.
[10:11] <dr_willis> !upstart
[10:12] <W4RH4WK> dr_willis: ok thank you, i will have a look at it
[10:15] <jead> Hey
[10:15] <jead> Tried running: rsync -nav backup-lokal@adress.se:/var/www/adress.se/application/mapp/ but I get the error: "rsync: change_dir "/var/www/site/application/mapp" failed: Permission denied (13)"...what should the rights be?
[10:15] <bekks> jead: Which user are you running rsync at?
[10:17] <jead> bekks: running rsync from user backup @localserver trying to fetch as @backup-lokal on remote
[10:18] <doobadoo> got no sound, alsactl init returns No Soundcards found... how do i find the soundcard in my powermac g5, and force this alsa to load it
[10:20] <bekks> jead: Then check which permissions that user has on /var/www/address.se
[10:20] <Sendoushi> hey guys. when i do service --status-all it lists all of course but as obvious, it doesn't let me go and check the top list. how can i see the services one by one?
[10:20] <Sendoushi> or a way to check the list of service --status-all
[10:22] <savagecroc> is there a way i can search the ppa's for passenger 4.0.0b2?
[10:22] <dr_willis> command | less       Sendoushi
[10:22] <dr_willis> !ppa-search
[10:22] <dr_willis> !info ppa-search
[10:22] <savagecroc> awesome thanks :)
[10:22] <dr_willis> Hmm.. theres a ppa search tool.. smewhere..
[10:23] <dr_willis> !info ppasearch
[10:23] <Sendoushi> dr_willis: hm? how could that help me on the console?
[10:23] <p201> doobado: U need to add some modules. Look there list here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1880477
[10:23] <doobadoo> p201 looking
[10:23] <dr_willis> you pipe long output to more.. so you can read it..  (or to less)
[10:23] <Sendoushi> not really working...
[10:24] <Sendoushi> oh by the way, i'm on server ubuntu
[10:24] <dr_willis> whats not working about it?
[10:24] <savagecroc> dr_willis: yeah i was trying this website https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=4.0.0b1.. but couldn't get it to work
[10:24] <Sendoushi> simply not making anything
[10:24] <p201> doobadoo use modprobe for testing before editing /etc/modules
[10:26] <doobadoo> i am aware of that directory are you talking about the blacklist.conf file therer
[10:26] <tion_> hackers
[10:26] <dr_willis> hazors?
[10:26] <gypsymauro> hi, I've some errors updating packages on ubuntu, it tries to download http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages and it fails, but there are on that site Packages.gz and Packages.bz2 why it doesn't download that?
[10:27] <doobadoo>  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and blacklist.local.conf
[10:28] <doobadoo> oh and btw cat /ctc/modules lists  sd_powerm
[10:28] <doobadoo> oh and btw cat /ctc/modules lists  snd_powermac, apm_emu, and snd-powermac ...but i may have apt-get installed snd-powermac thinking that could make it work
[10:29] <p201> doobado, yep but try to modprobe modules and get sound. After that we'll edit configs
[10:29] <gypsymauro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1027801
[10:30] <ikonia> gypsymauro: look at that link....it's a 404
[10:30] <ikonia> gypsymauro: there is nothing to download
[10:33] <syntroPi> gypsymauro, hmm weird what did you do before it broke like that?
[10:33] <isaias> I keep getting "System Program Problem Detected" at startup
[10:33] <ikonia> he can't break the url
[10:33] <ikonia> the person who hosts the url has a problem
[10:34] <dr_willis> isaias:  the askubuntu.com site had a decent guide on cleaning out old 'apport' error logs and disabling the servive if thats what you want to do. it can be a little over eager in its reporting
[10:35] <isaias> dr_willis: survive is what amy be causing the problem?
[10:35] <syntroPi> ikonia, shouldnt add apt the .gz or bz2 automatically ?  not sure if it would try to load uncompressed?
[10:35] <isaias> may*
[10:38] <syntroPi> ikonia, unfortunately here it obviously did for some reason
[10:40] <ikonia> syntroPi: the url is 404
[10:42] <syntroPi> ikonia, yeah i know but i wanted to learn something about apt: does it normally try to load Packages or Packages.{gz,bz2}?
[10:44] <superdo> hi, could be any problem if I install Mint next to Ubuntu on the same drive? Grub will be extended with Mint or ?
[10:44] <Sendoushi> how can i get the output of all packages and service --status-all inside nano?
[10:44] <Sendoushi> two different files by the way
[10:45] <cfhowlett> superdo, grub should pick up the other distro with no issue.  if you're worried, run mint inside a virtualbox and leave ubuntu alone
[10:45] <superdo> cfhowlett, thanks
[10:46] <cfhowlett> superdo, have fun, be safe
[10:46] <syntroPi> superdo, multiple versions of ubuntu work fine idk abour mint
[10:46] <ktogias-office> Hi
[10:46] <ktogias-office> I have submitted a bug report about multitouch support on a Sony Vaio Duo 11 ultrabook/windows tablet hybrid I purchased recently. The bug report and attached info/log files is at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/1121379. Any guidance in order to further investigate or test fixes will be appreciated.
[10:46] <superdo> best I ask on mint channel :)
[10:47] <dr_willis> you can set up either OS to handle grub superdo
[10:47] <superdo> dr_willis, thx
[10:50] <tad_pole> Anyone alive? :)
[10:50] <dr_willis> Nope. ;p
[10:51] <tad_pole> I am having boot issues and was looking for some incite...
[10:52] <Ohmage> hi guys, iv just got a few questions about installing ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS on a uefi windows 8 preinstalled laptop
[10:52] <dr_willis> Give the channel some details and see. ;)
[10:52] <superdo> dr_willis, so I make space on ubuntu partition, and install Mint, it will probably detect ubuntu/win7 and wont ignore them?
[10:52] <Ohmage> ah mr willis
[10:53] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI   Ohmage have a look
[10:53] <Ohmage> you helped me to fix my ubuntu not displaying windows properly
[10:53] <dr_willis> superdo:  whatever OS id handling grub should see the other os's and add an entry.
[10:53] <Ohmage> bazhang: i am at that page and have been rigourously researching
[10:53] <superdo> ok
[10:54] <Ohmage> theres just a few things i dont fully understand that i want to iron out before i install. firstly does this installer make a efi. bootloader for the grub menu
[10:55] <Ohmage> like will i be able to see both windows and ubuntu to boot from dual boot menu
[10:55] <tad_pole> I have been trying various distros   going to stick with ubunto.. but i messed my MBR's and Partitions up with all my dinking around: I just made new partition tables, clean ubuntustudio install, and it wont boot -  i tried boot-repair howtos      and that is not working   and now i can not get this darn LVM to go away either so I can try a reinstall.  at a loss.
[10:56] <ozy> i'm tryign to install ubuntu 12.10 from a usb stick, and I am not even getting to the grub menu -- I am getting some goffy icon at the bottom of the screen for a few minutes (and usb activity lights) and then it goes to a prompt in the upper left of the screen, becomes unresponsive, and the actiovity light goes stedy
[10:56] <Ohmage> as i have some convoluted issues this is why i was suggesting possibly carrying on some help in a private chat
[10:56] <dr_willis> tad_pole:  i never use lvm, so no idea on those. You  could use dd or gparted on a live cd and try to totally blank the hd. then repartion it
[10:57] <tad_pole> dr_willis: I just did three times. :/
[10:57] <Ohmage> dr_willis: do u mind pm?
[10:57] <dr_willis> ozy:  goofy icon like a  'man = keyboard' ?
[10:57] <tad_pole> Well I tried gparted three times    and dd once
[10:57] <ozy> might be a keyboard = man with circle around it. It's smaller, and low resolution
[10:57] <savagecroc> when calling apt-get --just-print upgrade .. what does it mean when it prefixes it with conf?
[10:57] <dr_willis> I have never used any EFI or windows 8 systems  Ohmage
[10:58] <Ohmage> oh ok dammit lol
[10:58] <tad_pole> I used win8 for about 5 minutes   that was enough for me :/
[10:58] <dr_willis> ozy:  normally you hite the space when you see that icon and it goes to some option screens.
[10:58] <Ohmage> tad_pole: you and me both its why im here..........
[10:59] <ozy> dr_willis: thanks, i'll try that. Nothing like a little black voodo, eh?
[10:59] <tad_pole> Oddly enough I was trying to help the person figure it out but found out there spiffy new laptop had broken keys
[10:59] <ozy> dr_willis: hit space bar, nothing happened
[11:00] <Ohmage> ok so yes anyone who is well versed in installing ubuntu on a win8 preinstalled uefi systems wud be greatly appreciated
[11:01] <Ohmage> as i have googled and googled and found no definitive confirmations of things i am trying to figure out
[11:02] <schuschu> hi everybody! could someone point me to a up-to-date guide on full disk encryption with keyfile on a usk-key in ubuntu 12.10? (i know how to do it in arch but ubuntu seems to require a custom script to mount to usb-key...)
[11:02] <tad_pole> dr_willis: Do you happen to know how to force a umount?
[11:03] <dr_willis> tad_pole:  the mount command has a --force option i belive..
[11:03] <dr_willis> or the umount command. ;)
[11:03] <ozy> dr_willis: it'[s enter
[11:07] <ejv> Ohmage: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[11:07] <tad_pole> dr_willis: For reference: #lvs displays all LVM groups  lvremove "lvmname to delete found in lvs output" deletes them.   YAY :/
[11:07] <dr_willis> i neer use lvm ;)
[11:08] <tad_pole> I plan to follow your lead.. A bit late :/
[11:08] <Ohmage> thanks evm that is another link i have read extensively as well, really im looking for someone i could ask some specific questions who has booted and installed on a win 8 machine
[11:09] <tad_pole> What specific questions? Maybe I can find you some answers
[11:09] <ejv> Ohmage: private messaging individuals is taboo here, best to just ask the channel and pray someone knowledgeable on the subject sees and chimes in; meanwhile you can make a post on the ubuntu forums
[11:09] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com is good also. ;)
[11:10] <Ohmage> ok thanks for the heads up, im a little nooby round these parts (and intend to change that soon enough) :P
[11:11] <ejv> the entire secure boot idea is just nonsense imho; more headaches for everyone
[11:11] <dr_willis> a system that cant boot is the most secure! ;)
[11:11] <|nv|s|b|e> lol
[11:12] <tad_pole> To bad people keep purchasing the crap.
[11:12] <Ohmage> yes it totally is just a barrier made by MS/intel/whoever decides to be evilest
[11:12] <Ohmage> lmao
[11:12] <tad_pole> *points at Ohmage*
[11:13]  * Ohmage wonders why @tad_pole :/
[11:13] <tad_pole> Purchasing microsoft/intel/whoever decides to be evilest's crappy locked hardware :)
[11:14] <ejv> what is a logical recourse? buying UEFI mobo's with early enough firmware that haven't introduced secure boot? are any vendors simply going to write UEFI firmware without it at all? i'd support that with my wallet.
[11:15] <Ohmage> ejv it seems though that with the Linux Foundation signed bootloader or SHIM loader that it can all be negated to a degree, its just made the whole thing a lot less user friendly
[11:15] <MatthewL> !chmod | ubottu
[11:16] <ejv> didn't answer my question Ohmage :)
[11:16] <tad_pole> The most simple logical decision would be to purchase something else, or wait it out.
[11:17] <ejv> define else
[11:17] <cfhowlett> Perhaps a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic???
[11:17] <Ciko> #ubuntuusers,#ubuntu-de,#xchat
[11:17] <tad_pole> ejv: Anything you can google that fits the bill.
[11:17] <gypsymauro> ikonia: syntroPi sorry phone, well nothing related with apt-get and that bugs seems what I discovered
[11:17] <tad_pole> cfhowlett: True. Sorry. :0
[11:17] <dr_willis> i imagine i will be sticking with ARM based PCs in the near future. ;)
[11:17] <Ohmage> ejv: im a noob dude lol how could i answer it :P secure boot really isnt that massive a deal, in my UEFI/bios menu whatever it is called i just went secure boot:disabled
[11:17] <Ohmage> really secure -_-
[11:18] <ejv> ehhh it's ubuntu related, i need to know what to buy, i'll be installing ubuntu on it after-all; compatability is a support issue ;)
[11:18] <Ohmage> also windows arm based are TOTALLY locked down now from what i read
[11:18] <Ohmage> way to go...
[11:19] <tad_pole> Off to reinstall, wish me luck :/
[11:19] <MatthewL> !security |	ubottu
[11:19] <MatthewL> !server | ubottu
[11:20] <ejv> example, im shopping and looking at the MSI Z77A-G43 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 mobo, that has UEFI, am I to understand that installing Ubuntu on this thing is going to be "not easy" ?
[11:21] <ejv> or will it depend on the version of the firmware of the Z77A-G43 ? see what I'm getting at?
[11:21] <dr_willis> may be a good idea to see what ubuntu/linux hardware sites sell.
[11:21] <schuschu> secureboot on x86 systems can still be disabled, single components typically have it off anyway... at least my z77 board never gave me troubles
[11:21] <MatthewL> !UEFI |	ubottu
[11:21] <cfhowlett> ejv, uefi installs are seemingly ALL a little iffy at the moment.  I'd avoid Samsung as that seems to be the most breakable model at the moment, but be aware that the uefi bug(?) HAS been reproduced with win8
[11:22] <ejv> hmm
[11:23] <linuxuz3r_> hi ho hello
[11:23] <cfhowlett> linuxuz3r_, greetings
[11:23] <ejv> guess i'll just have to try it and see, which is not the answer i wanted, but c'est la vie
[11:24] <MatthewL> !Fedora | ubottu
[11:24] <ozy> how do you start the installer fromt he command line on the live cd?
[11:24] <cfhowlett> ejv, best of luck
[11:24] <Ohmage> for a standard user with little linux experience what sort of file system should i format a partition to for ubuntu install?? ext4
[11:24] <cfhowlett> Ohmage, ext4
[11:24] <Ohmage> thanks
[11:25] <cfhowlett> Ohmage, no problem
[11:25] <ejv> cfhowlett: thanks, i haven't bought anything yet, im going to pour through some reviews on amazon/newegg and see if anyone tried ubuntu on the various models.
[11:25] <ejv> i want the path of least resistance.
[11:25] <Sendoushi> is there a way to swap characters or something? i'm using ubuntu server on a vm under mac os and i can't get [] nor {} since both use the left Alt of the keyboard. Tried to map it to AltGr but don't work also. The rest of keyboard (besides altGr) seems fine to me
[11:25] <cfhowlett> ejv, I think there might be a wiki somewhere.  also see the !hardware listings
[11:25] <cfhowlett> !hardware
[11:26] <Josssse> Hello Guys. When I installe ubuntu I had to set the nomodeset boot option in order not to get a black screen. Now that i've finished installation, when i boot, i get the same black screen. How can i force ubuntu to always start with the nomodeset option?? Thanks a lot.
[11:26] <ejv> lol socket 1155 isn't even listed on that site
[11:26] <ejv> good grief ;)
[11:26] <MatthewL> !wow
[11:27] <dr_willis> Josssse:   you can edit the /etc/default/grub to make nomodeset a default item.
[11:27] <Ohmage> ejv the only issue i see relating to any of it is the bootloader issue, installing running and booting live ubunut was easy enough for me and i have no experience other than light use. once there is a easy way to have gru2 bootloader show all os' on dual boot i see no real issues
[11:27] <ms_> I have Windows trying to install Ubuntu. I have deleted my C drive as instructed, what do I do from here
[11:28] <Alexio> ciao
[11:28] <Alexio> !list
[11:28] <KristisB> Hello, can I download the whole folder from one.ubuntu.com instead of downloading files one by one?
[11:28] <cfhowlett> ms_, unclear.   Are you installing ubuntu next to windows?
[11:28] <ejv> my understanding is the secure boot monkey business was introduced into UEFI much later; so there has to be older UEFI mobo's in production and being sold by vendors that I can get my hands on, circumventing the entire sillyness.
[11:28] <Josssse> thanks dr_willis . I'll try to do that. Do you know the line i should put to make nomodeset a default item?
[11:29] <dr_willis> JoseeAntonioR:  stick nomodeset btween quiet splash, and rerun update-grub
[11:29] <Alexio> ciao
[11:29] <Alexio> !list
[11:29] <MatthewL> !Microsoft
[11:29] <dr_willis> Alexio:  what are yu expecting to get from your !list ing exactly?
[11:30] <Josssse> Thanks!!
[11:30] <Alexio> ciao
[11:30] <Alexio> !list
[11:30] <Ohmage> yes its probably fine if you dont want or need a really new computer but i think now all new uefi machines with the higher speccs come like this unless untouched by windows.. im not 100%
[11:30] <MatthewL> wow
[11:30] <DJones> !bot | MatthewL If you've got a lot of factoids to check, its probably better to use /msg ubottu !factoid so it responds via pm, or use the web interface in ubottu's links
[11:30] <dr_willis> Alexio:  what are yu expecting to get from your !list ing exactly?........
[11:31] <anybody_> irc://IrC.DeViLiRC.OrG/PapRiKa
[11:31] <MatthewL> DJones - thanks
[11:31] <dr_willis> anybody_:  huh? Do  You have a ubuntu support question?
[11:31] <ejv> thanks for the input cheers
[11:31] <ikonia> gypsymauro: the url you are trying to connect to is invalid
[11:32]  * cfhowlett what the boone hill farm is that?
[11:32] <ejv> ( that feeling when you really didn't walk away with more knowledge than when you started :D )
[11:32] <ejv> ;p
[11:32] <bignono1> can i use jwm in buntu?
[11:33] <Ohmage> is it allowed to create a channel to talk to someone? or is this also taboo
[11:33] <dr_willis> bignono1:  its in the repos.. so yes.
[11:33] <bignono1> in the repo?
[11:33] <dr_willis> Ohmage:  make all the channels you want.
[11:33] <xDesu> Ohmage /msg <name>
[11:33] <dr_willis> !info jwm | bignono1
[11:33] <Ohmage> cool
[11:33] <ejv> Ohmage: the reason you should ask in here, is because the collective benefits from transparent support
[11:33] <bignono1> thanks dr_willis
[11:33] <joesh> What chmod / chown should I use for everyone to be able to read?
[11:34] <ejv> !chmod | joesh
[11:34] <DJones> !pm | Ohmage Be aware that if you want to message somebody directly, you should ask first,
[11:34] <Ohmage> no worries
[11:35] <ejv> please don't set everything to 777 or some insanity joesh; that's a good way to brick your installation
[11:35] <joesh> ejv: that is why I am looking in the guide =)
[11:35] <joesh> I know 777 is for everything.. but that includes write.. I just want read
[11:35] <wdp> errm.
[11:36] <Ohmage> ejv: pm if u dont mind? little chat about the whole uefi thing
[11:36] <MatthewL> !jwm | MatthewL
[11:36] <MatthewL> What is jwm?
[11:36] <joesh> ejv: chmod 775 is what I'll use? read and execute?
[11:37] <wdp> I'm trying to let xfce4 start automatically. but somehow it always starts gnome automatically. In the login manager I've set xfce as default session. Sadly I don't remember how I configured the automatic start (and login) of gnome some years ago.
[11:37] <ejv> 775 says to give user, everything, group everything, and world, read and execute; that's not what you want.
[11:37] <cfhowlett> wdp, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[11:37] <dr_willis> joesh:  its worth the 10 min.. reading up on chmod and what the #'s mean.
[11:37] <wdp> cfhowlett, just updated that, so current.
[11:38] <cfhowlett> wdp, so 12.10 ... weird behavior.   whatever you login with should set the default for next time ...
[11:38] <MatthewL> Cool beans | ubottu
[11:38] <wdp> cfhowlett, indeed. Wondering if there is any other way to achieve what i want to do. probably another login manager which would do that?
[11:38] <Alexio> ciao
[11:38] <Alexio> !list
[11:39] <Sendoushi> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12956435/screen.png which layout should i use for altgr? i can't get [ ] nor { }
[11:39] <ejv> because third time is a charm
[11:39] <dr_willis> Alexio:  do you even read what people say?
[11:39] <larst> Hi all
[11:39] <Alexio> ciao
[11:39] <cfhowlett> wdp, apt-get install lxde ... but I'm more concerned with this fail.  test it out ...
[11:39] <Alexio> !list
[11:39] <cfhowlett> ALEXIO!~  no warez here.  wrong channel.
[11:39] <wdp> cfhowlett, lxde is a DE - I want to use xfce, not lxde.
[11:39] <dr_willis> Alexio:   try /list
[11:40] <cfhowlett> wdp, ?? xfce is also a DE, no?
[11:40] <Josssse> dr_willis, Since i had to boot from livecd I had to use the grub-mkconfig -o /media/.... to run the actual update-grub command. But i get an error: cannot finde a device for  is /dev mounted?
[11:40] <Josssse> What could I do?
[11:40] <Naphatul> is there a way for me to see boot time's and a breakdown?
[11:41] <dr_willis> Josssse:  you can use the rescue/recovery mode to get into the system. or  at the grub menu - edit it. to add the 'nomodeset' option the first time.. then edit the /etc/default/grub file
[11:41] <larst> Should i pick 12.10 or 12.04?
[11:41] <ShukkoO> how can i make a hotkey, so that i can open the terminal by f.ex pressing "ctrl+r".
[11:41] <dr_willis> larst:  you want latest versionof packages... or long term support.
[11:41] <dr_willis> ShukkoO:  alt-ctrl-t ooens a terminal.
[11:42] <Josssse> dr_willis, How do i acess grub menu or recovery mode??
[11:42] <larst> Dr_willis not sure
[11:42] <dr_willis> Josssse:   when you boot up - you see the grub menu. hit e
[11:42] <dr_willis> !grub2
[11:42] <Naphatul> Josssse, pres ESC on boot
[11:42] <dr_willis> or press/hold shift... if its hidden
[11:43] <larst> !lts
[11:43] <larst> !precise
[11:44] <Josssse> Swee, thanks a lot guys!
[11:44] <Josssse> This would do it.
[11:44] <dr_willis> last time i needed nomodset.. i just had to use it once.. then get  the nvidia drivers installed.
[11:45] <Ohmage> dr_willis: would u say that ubuntu is the best out of box distro to make best use of a laptop and its batttery ?
[11:45] <larst> Dr_willis what would  you pick
[11:46] <dr_willis> larst:  i always use the latest.. i dont have much need for lts features
[11:46] <dr_willis> Ohmage:  newer releases alwaos have newer drivers and so forth
[11:47] <Joupi> larst : If you are on company or production environment, prefer LTS for stability, else at home I guess you would go for last one ...
[11:47] <Ohmage> yes but i mean in terms of the best linux distros relating to resource management on laptops, my new machine when on win8 full charge has roughly 5 hours life, on fedora 18 it was 2 at best
[11:48] <Ohmage> dr_willis: just wondering if what i read about ubuntu was true that is the best distro for laptops
[11:48] <ikonia> Ohmage: that is incorrect
[11:48] <ikonia> Ohmage: that's probably down to poor apci support in linux, no distro will make a difference
[11:48] <ikonia> Ubuntu is no better/worse than the other main distribtuions
[11:48] <Ohmage> ok
[11:49] <Ohmage> thats what i thought, it must be just a matter of what you have on the system within the distro
[11:49] <ikonia> Ohmage: no
[11:49] <mpma> Good afternoon
[11:49] <Ohmage> ok
[11:51] <cfhowlett> mpma, greeting
[11:54] <vcsy> hello.
[11:54] <cfhowlett> vcsy, greetings
[11:54] <geoffw8_> hey ubuntu! I have a folder with 777 permissions, but when Sphinx creates files it creates them using its own permissions
[11:55] <geoffw8_> how can I make it so that permissions are enforced?
[11:55] <larst> Hi vcsy
[11:55] <geoffw8_> no amount of Googling is helping me
[11:55] <l2k3> Hi :)
[11:55] <larst> Hi l2k3
[11:55] <cfhowlett> l2k3, greetings
[11:56] <setre> How can I hide/toggle the launcher in Ubuntu 13.04?
[11:56] <ikonia> 13.04 is not supported yet
[11:56] <setre> I see
[11:56] <mpma> isn
[11:56] <ikonia> setre: it's in pre-release state, #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[11:56] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|setre,
[11:56] <mpma> isn't it just under System settings -> Behavior?
[11:56] <setre> how far from release?
[11:56] <setre> mpma: no it's not there
[11:56] <cfhowlett> setre, again see the channel ubuntu+1
[11:57] <setre> cfhowlett: roger
[11:57] <setre> any guess on how far from 13.04 being released?
[11:57] <mpma> april
[11:57] <tad-pole> >:)
[11:57] <mpma> setre: 13.04 will be released in arpil
[11:58] <mpma> april**
[11:58] <setre> thanks
[11:58] <mpma> hence the ".04" meaning the fourth month of the year
[11:58] <dr_willis> setre:   the version # IS the year/month of release
[11:58] <mpma> and ".10" being the tenth mouth
[11:58] <Joupi> setre : 13=2013 ; 04=april
[11:58] <setre> I see
[11:58] <mpma> mind = blown
[11:58] <setre> like windows 98
[11:58] <mpma> :D
[11:58] <mpma> yes, exactly like windows 98
[11:58] <tad-pole> What about windows 2000?~!?"
[11:58] <setre> learn from the master
[11:59] <dr_willis> ahh... the year 2000.. when every silly app had to have 2000 or 2k in the name...
[11:59] <dr_willis> These days it seems everything has to have 'HD' in the name
[11:59] <setre> dr_willis: hopefully we will not be around for "the year 3000"
[12:00] <dr_willis> Phear the Y3K bug!
[12:00] <wdp> dr_willis, in a half year everything will have VR in it's name.
[12:00] <setre> that sounds about right
[12:01] <setre> or whatever scrumjax word will become associated with google glass and the like
[12:01] <wdp> heh.
[12:01] <setre> you *are* using "Ajax" right?
[12:01] <dr_willis> I clean my sinks with ajax cleaner...
[12:01] <wdp> rofl
[12:02] <setre> and SCRUM
[12:02] <dr_willis> SOAP
[12:02] <setre> it seems buzzword creators are obssessed with cleaning related words
[12:03] <dr_willis> ExpressoSoap2k
[12:05] <cellanwilliams> if i want to dual partition ubuntu on my mac, is it best to partition first or partition on installation?
[12:05] <dr_willis> Shouldent matter either way cellanwilliams .
[12:06] <tad-pole> dualboot*
[12:06] <cellanwilliams> coolio thanks <dr_willis>
[12:07] <cfhowlett> cellanwilliams, do you have the installation tutorial from the wiki for this procedure?
[12:10] <mpma> will everyone make the switch to 13.04 on release-day?
[12:10] <dr_willis> mpma:  i imagine thats a 'no' ;)
[12:10] <cfhowlett> mpma, LTS only ...
[12:10] <dr_willis> since the servers couldent handle the load..
[12:10] <mpma> cfhowlett: 13.04 will be LTS?
[12:10]  * cfhowlett thinks point releases are a better bet in any case
[12:10] <dr_willis> !lts
[12:10] <cfhowlett> mpma, it will NOT.
[12:11] <dr_willis> 13.04 is not a LTS release
[12:11] <mpma> i thought every .04 was LTS
[12:11] <tad-pole> I like rice.
[12:11] <cfhowlett> mpma, you were misinformed
[12:11] <mpma> cfhowlett: so LTS only switches in 5 year intervals
[12:11] <cfhowlett> mpma, 12.04 at present.  14.04 is the next LTS
[12:11] <cfhowlett> mpma, no, SUPPORT is for 5 years.  release is every 2 years presently.
[12:12] <mpma> cfhowlett: I see
[12:12] <DJones> mpma: LTS versions are released every two years and are supported for 3 years on desktop, 5 years on server versions
[12:12] <dr_willis> 12.04 is special. ;)
[12:12] <cfhowlett> ops the ubottu factoid for LTS is incorrect in stating that support is for 3 years on the desktop
[12:13] <dr_willis> 'with the exception of....'
[12:13] <dr_willis> they gave 12.04 a longer term.
[12:13] <mpma> what version are you guys running now?
[12:13] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, ah.  I thought all future LTS went to 5 years.  good to know.
[12:13] <mpma> <-- 12.04
[12:14] <dr_willis> 5 years is like half a decade in computer years... ;P
[12:14] <dr_willis> 5 years from now.. who knows what we will be running..  64 core arm based desktop machines that only use 1W of powar.. ;P
[12:15] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, 128 bit wrist mounted retina enabled mid-air projection with sight/scent emulation ...
[12:16] <tad-pole> Or sticks and rocks. :)
[12:16] <mpma> what versions are you guys running?
[12:16] <mpma> anyone comfortable with 12.10?
[12:17] <sakkemo> <- 12.10, couldn't get wifi to work with 12.04 (Lenovo E130)
[12:17] <cfhowlett> mpma, several people are.  I prefer not to deal with install issues every 6 months, so LTS works fine for me.
[12:17] <sakkemo> didn't spend that much time trying as it worked out-of-box with 12.10
[12:17] <mpma> tried 12.10 yesterday, horrible performance issues
[12:18] <mpma> and propieraty drivers (spelling) kept crashing the machine
[12:18] <cfhowlett> mpma, bleeding edge is bloody ...
[12:18] <tad-pole> I just installed 12.10
[12:18] <cfhowlett> mpma, one more iota of reason to go with LTS ...
[12:19] <tad-pole> Well, 12.10 studio.
[12:19] <Joupi> mpma : the version you choose really depends on what you want ... newer versions provide latest apps, but might be bug updates full whereas LTS are usually more stable afetr a short while (2 to 3 months running)
[12:19] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, with all the restricted-extras I trust?
[12:20] <tad-pole> I literally just installed it ;/
[12:20] <ozy> I am trying to install 12.10 server, and I keep getting 'unable to install busybox-initramfs' -- any ideas? google came up short...
[12:20] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, ok.  well for full codec support apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extra
[12:20] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, ok.  well for full codec support apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:21] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, and take a peek at medibuntu.
[12:21] <tad-pole> cfhowlett: Thanks! :)   I living off of my mobile connection ATM so I will do that tomorrow :)
[12:22] <tad-pole> I am* living... rather
[12:22] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, don't forget to check out the ubuntustudio forums and #ubuntustudio   on IRC
[12:22] <louis-pc> hallo lirk
[12:22] <louis-pc> hallo lirk
[12:22] <Lirk> hi
[12:22] <tad-pole> Stupid SprintPCS keeps dropping me down to bytes a second.
[12:22] <tad-pole> just apt-get update is taking forever
[12:22] <louis-pc> i am dutch
[12:22] <Guest46015> Hello, I would like to make a custom icon for a file type. I tried what I could find on Google, including this:
[12:22] <Guest46015> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingMimeTypes
[12:22] <Guest46015> I am using quantal.
[12:23] <mpma> !quantal
[12:24] <tad-pole> Only thing I miss about college: amazing bandwidth. :(
[12:31] <HeadCrash> ....................../´¯/)
[12:31] <HeadCrash> ....................,/¯../
[12:31] <HeadCrash> .................../..../
[12:31] <HeadCrash> ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸
[12:31] <FloodBot1> HeadCrash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:32] <HeadCrash> hello
[12:32] <HeadCrash> can anybody help
[12:32] <dr_willis> with?
[12:32] <cfhowlett> HeadCrash, ask with details ...
[12:32] <HeadCrash> anybody familiar here with apache jmeter?
[12:32] <tad-pole> cfhowlett: When Installing studio I clicked the box for installing the proprietary codecs       is that the same as "apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras" ?
[12:33] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, that
[12:33] <tad-pole> ?
[12:33] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, that'll get you the mp3 codec only
[12:34] <tad-pole> OIC, Alright thanks for the extra info, Ill have to download that all then.
[12:34] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, I don't know how to display the contents of a meta-package ...
[12:34] <HeadCrash> cfhowlett
[12:34] <HeadCrash> i have PM to you
[12:34] <HeadCrash> can you reply for that?
[12:35] <cfhowlett> HeadCrash, nope.  keep it in channel please
[12:35] <HeadCrash> cfhowlett please
[12:35] <tad-pole> HeadCrash: I like rice.
[12:35] <HeadCrash> i need to ask that in pm please for a minute
[12:35] <cfhowlett> HeadCrash, bad form to pm without permission
[12:35] <HeadCrash> tad-pole...i'll give you grain
[12:35] <cfhowlett> HeadCrash, in channnel
[12:35] <HeadCrash> ok....
[12:36] <HeadCrash> then shall i ask?
[12:36] <cfhowlett> !ask
[12:36] <HeadCrash> ubottu
[12:36] <cfhowlett> HeadCrash, sad to say, I know nothing of jmeter ...
[12:36] <HeadCrash> do you know apache jmeter
[12:36] <HeadCrash> ok...
[12:36] <HeadCrash> but i have another question
[12:36] <HeadCrash> shall i ask
[12:36] <FelixTheCat> I am trying to install Ubuntu but get "marking tsc unstable due to tsc halts in idle" followed by "clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -1761805988 ns) and now it just sits at a busybox prompt
[12:36] <FelixTheCat> please help me install ubuntu
[12:36] <cfhowlett> HeadCrash, ask it here
[12:37] <HeadCrash> is your father a jerk?
[12:37] <cfhowlett> HeadCrash, i'm disappointed in your poor judgement
[12:37] <dr_willis> how to not get help on irc.....
[12:37] <tad-pole> How to not get anything good period. He started it all off with a middle finger :/
[12:37]  * cfhowlett as if flipping the bird in his ascii display wasn't enought
[12:38]  * cfhowlett moving on.
[12:38] <tad-pole> cfhowlett: !
[12:38] <dr_willis> was that what it was? ;)
[12:38] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, you there?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> oh, ya'll didn't see the profane insults he put on the pm to me
[12:39] <tad-pole> cfhowlett http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu-restricted-extras     Just incase you ever need the resource    it lists the contents.
[12:39] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, nice.  thanks.   So will that package help you out?
[12:39] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: yes
[12:39] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, is this a clean install you're doing or an upgrade?
[12:40] <tad-pole> cfhowlett Very much so. I was using linuxmint do to codec issues.
[12:40] <user1_> #bookz
[12:41] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, I installed medibuntu and restricted-extras.
[12:41] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever j had codec issues on normal ubuntu.
[12:41] <dr_willis> Not needed to use Medibuntu in ages...
[12:41] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: upgrade from puppy
[12:41] <tad-pole> I like to look at wierd things. ;)
[12:41] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, I think medibuntu pulls in one or 2 codecs that restricted misses ...
[12:42] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, I HOPE that means you're doing a clean install of ubuntu ... cause you can't upgrade puppy to ubuntu
[12:42] <dr_willis> cant say ive enocountered any codecs  ive needed medibuntu for.
[12:42] <dr_willis> at least not in a long time
[12:43] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: yeah i'm just trying to install ubuntu over the top of puppy (wipe puppy, get ubuntu)
[12:43] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, ok that makes sense.  that's an unfamiliar error you got.  did you md5sum verify the iso you downloaded??
[12:44] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: it was, back when i downloaded it
[12:44] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, and you burned an iso/usb?
[12:44] <FelixTheCat> 10.4 beta i do beleve
[12:44] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: yes
[12:45] <tad-pole> FelixTheCat why are you using 10.4 beta?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, wait, you're booting beta?  latest LTS ubuntu is 12.04, latest interim is 12.10.  choose one
[12:45] <FelixTheCat> tad-pole: only install cd i have
[12:46] <tad-pole> Order a new one if you can not download?
[12:46] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, of COURSE beta is going to do strange things ...
[12:46] <dr_willis> or use a usb flash. ;)
[12:46] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: it says (on busybox prompt) ubuntu 1:1.2-2ubuntu6
[12:47] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, sorry, but I have to bail from this discussion ... 10.04 beta?  not worth discussing IMHO
[12:47] <tad-pole> dr_willis I was assuming he just cant download an iso. but true.
[12:47] <tad-pole> FelixTheCat You need to get a current version   or atleast a stable one
[12:47] <FelixTheCat> well, the question is, tad-pole  cfhowlett  ect will it run on that old laptop
[12:47] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, note ... 10.04 is end of life quite shortly ...
[12:48] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, you didn't specify your hardware ... or I didn't see it.  that said, lubuntu or xubuntu are both optimized for old and low spec machines.
[12:48] <tad-pole> FelixTheCat They have distro's specifically for legacy hardware I believe
[12:49] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: its a sony vaio pcg-n505sn
[12:49] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, try lubuntu or xubuntu 12.04
[12:50]  * tad-pole smiles
[12:50] <k2ai> hello
[12:51] <tad-pole> Hi.
[12:51] <cfhowlett> k2ai, greetings
[12:51] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: xbuntu 12.10 ?
[12:51] <tad-pole> FelixTheCat: xubuntu.org
[12:51] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, I'd suggest 12.04 for the Long Term Support but go with 12.10 if you'd rather ...
[12:51] <bekks> FelixTheCat: 12.04
[12:52] <Ciko> #ubuntu-de
[12:52] <k2ai> does Ubuntu still have heating problem on mobile ivy bridge processor?
[12:52] <nkl_> someone want to help me to make usb bootable i spent all morning and all failed
[12:52] <histo> FelixTheCat: What kind of specs is that laptop?
[12:52] <tad-pole> nkl_ Download unetbootin and use that
[12:52] <tad-pole> It works great for me.
[12:52] <histo> !requirements | FelixTheCat
[12:53] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: we're talking about 15 year old laptop here (the type with an external cd-rom drive with a card)
[12:53] <nkl_> i can not use unebootin, i am on debian chrunchbang distro
[12:53] <nkl_> tad-pole,
[12:53] <ThinkT510> k2ai: when was the last time you tried?
[12:53] <bekks> nkl_: Why cant you use unetbootin then?
[12:53] <nkl_> i dont have it in repo
[12:53] <k2ai> 2 days back
[12:53] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, all I can say is try. xubunt and lubuntu might surprise you ...
[12:53] <ThinkT510> k2ai: which version?
[12:53] <k2ai> 12.10
[12:54] <tad-pole> nkl_  http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all&keywords=unetbootin
[12:54] <nkl_> bekks, i see it now.
[12:54] <nkl_> sorry
[12:54] <histo> k2ai: Which heating problem?
[12:54] <nkl_> tad-pole, and bekks is the first drive when i type fdisk -l said: sdc1 and sdc
[12:54] <nkl_> which one?
[12:54] <ThinkT510> k2ai: that is the most recent stable release, perhaps wait till 13.04 is released
[12:55] <FelixTheCat> histo: about 720mb of ram or 512
[12:55] <bekks> nkl_: I dont get your question. What are you doing, what do you want to do?
[12:55] <tad-pole> He wants to know wich is the usb mount
[12:55] <k2ai> histo: I don't know my laptop always runs unbeareably hot
[12:55] <tad-pole> I do not know.
[12:55] <nkl_> bekks, i want to make bootable usb for ubuntu 10.04 just that! :(((
[12:56] <histo> FelixTheCat: I would definately recomend xubuntu or lubuntu 32bit then.
[12:56] <tad-pole> nkl_ Download unetbootin
[12:56] <tad-pole> It will do it for you
[12:56] <nkl_> tad-pole, bekks i installed unetbootin
[12:56] <histo> !usb | nkl_
[12:56] <bekks> nkl_: And how is that related to fdisk -l then?
[12:57] <nkl_> bekks, fdisk -l:
[12:57] <tad-pole> nkl_ the choice it shows by default if you have usb mounted should work
[12:57] <cfhowlett> nkl_, 10.04 desktop is end of life in a matter of weeks.
[12:57] <nkl_> Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table
[12:57] <nkl_> Disk /dev/sdc: 2045 MB, 2045771776 bytes
[12:57] <k2ai> ThinkT510: I think i should wait till 13.04
[12:57] <tad-pole> nkl_ Use gparted to make a new partition table on usb
[12:57] <nkl_> cfhowlett, 10.04 still rule!
[12:57] <bekks> nkl_: Why are you trying to run fdisk -l? What do you want to do? What that sdc, some USB drive?
[12:57] <cfhowlett> nkl_, OK ... on your head, then ...
[12:58] <nkl_> omg why is that complicated!! why gparted now :(
[12:58] <histo> k2ai: Or you can search askubuntu for a solution to your problem since no one here knows
[12:58] <nkl_> sdc is usb bekks
[12:58] <histo> k2ai: You have a common laptop model so i'm sure someone else would have experienced what you are if it's a bug.
[12:58] <tad-pole> nkl_ Gotta pay the cost to be the boss. If it is easy it is not worth it :)
[12:58] <tad-pole> Unless its a female and im drunk. then its worth it.
[12:58] <k2ai> thanks
[12:59] <nkl_> tad-pole, i must to start gparted with sudo?
[12:59] <k2ai> histo:  ok i'll google it
[12:59] <histo> wow didn't listen very well.
[12:59] <kingbeast> hey guys trying to port a router out through my ethernet port on my laptop, can anyone help
[12:59] <nkl_> sudo gparted: unalloacted
[13:00] <histo> kingbeast: What?
[13:00] <tad-pole> nkl_ ?
[13:00] <nkl_> dev/sdc 1.91 gb unallocated
[13:00] <ThinkT510> !gksudo | nkl_
[13:00] <histo> nkl_: open gparted create a parititon on /dev/sdc   format it for fat32.  Then use unetbootin be done and happy
[13:00] <kingbeast> trying to use the ethernet port on my laptop to use my wireless to a wired router
[13:01] <tad-pole> histo Agreed!
[13:01] <histo> kingbeast: that makes absolutely no sense
[13:01] <histo> kingbeast: ethernet > wireless > wired??? wth?
[13:01] <kingbeast> old xbox
[13:01] <tad-pole> histo: I think he wants to tap his wifi access from laptop over to a wired router connected to NOTwireless devices
[13:01] <kingbeast> no wireless
[13:02] <histo> kingbeast: Please in english eplain what you want to do.
[13:02] <histo> s/eplain/explain/
[13:02] <kingbeast> wireless router>laptop>wired router>xbox
[13:02] <tad-pole> kingbeast http://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Universal-Ethernet-Adapter-GWU627/dp/B004UAKCS6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1360587736&sr=8-2&keywords=ethernet+to+wireless  buy that
[13:02] <nkl_> why i dont have in gparted 'format' option?
[13:02] <nkl_> it is still unallocated
[13:03] <cfhowlett> nkl_, select the area you want to format first ...
[13:03] <histo> nkl_: delete whatever partition is on /dev/sdc   then create a new one. Then select type as fat32
[13:03] <tad-pole> He has no wifi on xbox  only eth   wants to plug his laptop into xbox to get internet
[13:03] <histo> !ics | kingbeast
[13:03] <nkl_> histo, primary partition or extended?
[13:03]  * cfhowlett bought a $30 wifi adapter JUST for the xbox.  worked fine ...
[13:04] <histo> nkl_: primary
[13:04]  * histo says ics would work just the same
[13:04] <tad-pole> cfhowlett  thats what i gave him a link for, I use them on copy machines instead of a $1000 service charge for an upgraded network card
[13:04] <nkl_> ok, histo now it is green
[13:05] <nkl_> so, now to continue with unetbootin?
[13:05] <histo> nkl_: did you tell it to do fat32?
[13:05] <nkl_> yes 32
[13:05] <nkl_> fat
[13:05] <nkl_> new partition #1 fat 32
[13:05] <histo> nkl_: now write teh changes exit gparted. Then fire up unetbootin and be done.
[13:05] <nkl_> histo, how to write?
[13:06] <histo> nkl_: The green checkbox I believe is apply
[13:06] <nkl_> aply all operattion?
[13:06] <histo> nkl_: yes
[13:06] <nkl_> hist :(( an error...
[13:06] <ncp_> nkl_, haven't follow your issue, but i always boot livecd when i need to partition anything..
[13:06] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys, Where i can find ubuntu kernel release notice please guide me
[13:07] <cfhowlett> !kernel|dhanasekaran,
[13:07] <histo> nkl_: Well i can't really guess what your error is so perhaps you can enlighten us.
[13:07] <nkl_> histo, i must to start from the begining
[13:07] <nkl_> wait a sec..
[13:08] <tad-pole> nkl_ Open gparted again, highlight your usb device, click Device>Create New Partition Table    Right click on your unallocated usb device  click New       make a fat32 partition of the full size of USB device
[13:08] <tad-pole> nkl_ Then click apply(green check)
[13:08] <dhanasekaran> cfhowlett: I want release notes, What are the changes are done, current and previous version of kernel
[13:08] <cfhowlett> dhanasekaran, see #ubuntu-devel for developer talk
 www.ubuntu.org(com?) and search in there search box
[13:09] <nkl_> An error occurred while applying the operations
[13:09] <nkl_> See the details for more information.
[13:09] <nkl_> IMPORTANT
[13:09] <nkl_> If you want support, you need to provide the saved details!
[13:09] <nkl_> See http://gparted.org/save-details.htm for more information.
[13:09] <PrincessLuna> To boot with UEFI secure boot on a Win8 system, Kubuntu 12.10 AMD 64 should work right?
[13:09] <nkl_> and i have button ok
[13:10] <tad-pole> nkl_ Do that then? :P
[13:10] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, "should" ...
[13:10] <histo> !uefi | PrincessLuna
[13:10] <dhanasekaran> cfhowlett: thanks
[13:10] <nkl_> when i press ok, i still have /dev/sdc1 unknown
[13:11] <cfhowlett> nkl_, would help to see.  paste a screen shot ...
[13:11] <tad-pole> nkl_ Redo everything like I posted above
[13:11] <nkl_> just a sec..
[13:13] <MAGIKO> !LIST
[13:13] <histo> How hard can it be to partition a usb drive.
[13:13] <MAGIKO> !LIST
[13:13] <cfhowlett> histo, we learn when we learn ...
[13:13] <routcla0> I can't log in to my own brand-new laptop. Ubuntu gives me access to Guest only. Can you help?
[13:13] <histo> cfhowlett: I'm actually more interested in how he got a thumb drive that isn't partitioned.
[13:14] <cfhowlett> routcla0, lost/forgot password?
[13:14] <tad-pole> histo he likely messed it up trying to do what hes doing before.
[13:14] <tad-pole> he/she  excuse me   sorry :)
[13:14] <routcla0> I did not lose password. I uninstalled Wine and logged out and in and it denied access.
[13:14] <OerHeks> histo, he probably selected fat32, but never pressed apply to perform the format.
[13:14] <MAGIKO> SOMEONE HELP ME PLZ
[13:15] <tad-pole> !ask MAGIKO
[13:15] <tad-pole> oops
[13:15] <nkl_> this is the image http://oi50.tinypic.com/2csjp07.jpg
[13:15] <DJones> MAGIKO: You need to ask an Ubuntu support related question first
[13:15] <tad-pole> Guess I should learn how to use the bot if I am going to be here.
[13:15] <MAGIKO> I WANT DOWNLOAD A GAMES...HO I CAN DO IT??
[13:15] <cfhowlett> !shout|MAGIKO,
[13:15] <DJones> MAGIKO: Buy them, piracy isn't allowed here
[13:16] <histo> nkl_: Click the right arrow by the Create primary partition #1  there to see details
[13:16] <cfhowlett> MAGIKO, games are in the ubuntu software center
[13:16] <nashant> Hi guys. I'm trying to recover data from my gf's dying (dead?) drive. smartctl seems to think that it's a 2.5" 600PB drive, I guess this is because the logical block size is being reported as 774843950. Any hints?
[13:16] <histo> nkl_: did you launch gparted with gksu?
[13:16] <kingbeast> I got it thanks guys
[13:16] <nkl_> histo, yes
[13:16] <nkl_> sudo
[13:16] <kingbeast> sorry for the confusion
[13:16] <MAGIKO> !LIST
[13:16] <histo> !manual | MAGIKO
[13:17] <AppleJuice> nashant, What is a PB?
[13:17] <AppleJuice> nashant, Peta Byte?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> 600 PB?  huge!
[13:18] <histo> nashant: make sure the drive is unmounted. image it and use scalpel or photorec to recover files.
[13:18] <histo> nashant: ddrescue  would be the way to image it
[13:19] <AppleJuice> You could use dd to make a image... or destroy the drive completely.
[13:19] <MAGIKO> !MANUAL
[13:19] <histo> !botabuse > MAGIKO
[13:19] <AppleJuice> !botabuse AppleJuice
[13:20] <histo> !undelete | nashant
[13:20] <viderbit> sup bitchеs
[13:20] <histo> !language > viderbit
[13:20]  * histo senses schools are off today
[13:21] <cfhowlett> viderbit, your stay here will be short and unproductive with such an attitude...
[13:21] <viderbit> ok its no problem :)
[13:22] <MAGIKO> !botause
[13:22] <viderbit> jesus you are so soft and cold, anyway - is there a way to switch from upstart to systemd
[13:22] <n00b_dust> #join #slack
[13:22] <MAGIKO> !botabuse
[13:22] <viderbit> and why ubuntu 12.04 is two times slower then 10.10/04
[13:23] <ThinkT510> viderbit: systemd isn't supported in ubuntu
[13:23] <histo> viderbit: compiz and you probably not having video drivers.
[13:23] <nashant> histo: I've tried to image it with ddrescue, but it doesn't seem to get any data at all
[13:23] <viderbit> i dont talk for video performance
[13:23] <cfhowlett> viderbit, , computer is 2 years older
[13:24] <nashant> AppleJuice: yeah. petabytes
[13:24] <viderbit> computer is with 4core i7
[13:24] <histo> nashant: Then you may be at a loss for recoverying anything.  You can try running photorec or scalpel on against the block device but good luck if you can't even image it.
[13:24] <viderbit> and 16 gig of RAM
[13:24] <viderbit> and SSd
[13:24] <histo> viderbit: Video drivers......
[13:24] <histo> viderbit: How are you measuring your "speed"
[13:25] <nashant> histo: would changing the block size help?
[13:25] <viderbit> i talk for server application performance not for GUI
[13:25] <viderbit> ....
[13:25] <nashant> At the moment smartctl thinks it's 774843950 bytes
[13:25] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:25] <histo> nashant: not really ddrescue is pretty good. It starts and skips bad blocks then comes back to them.
[13:25] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, greetings
[13:25] <histo> viderbit: How are you measuring this performance?
[13:26] <histo> nashant: I'd be worried less about smartctl and more about reading data off of it atm.
[13:26] <AppleJuice> nashant, Your girlfriend does not have a petabyte drive. Your drive is drunk.
[13:26] <viderbit> here it is: http://gwan.com/en_timeline.html, I use gwan v4+
[13:26] <X-Scorpion> How can i join Ubuntu to windows Domain
[13:26] <BluesKaj> Hi cfhowlett , greetings as well
[13:27] <histo> !samba | X-Scorpion
[13:27] <X-Scorpion> How?
[13:27] <nashant> AppleJuice: It's not just drunk, it's absolutely shitfaced
[13:27] <nashant> And not just 1 petabyte, 600!
[13:27] <tad-pole> x-scorpion Google
[13:28] <ThinkT510> !language | nashant
[13:28] <X-Scorpion> tad-pole! i already did
[13:28] <nashant> histo: I tried ddrescue a few mins ago and it went 11 minutes without recovering anything at all
[13:28] <tad-pole> x-scorpion Not well enough. :)
[13:29] <X-Scorpion> maybe
[13:29] <histo> nashant: There are some options you may want to look at. man ddrescue
[13:29] <histo> nashant: if not, there isn't much more you're going to be able to do. If the data is worth a lot of money then you may want to pay someone for data recovery.
[13:30] <lupobianc3> ciao
[13:30] <X-Scorpion> so tad-pole do u have any idea about it?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> !it|lupobianc3,
[13:30] <tad-pole> x-scorpion There are numerous howto's   Find one similar to what you are doing, try it, then ask specific questions on your problems
[13:31] <X-Scorpion> i got an error The server domain and kerberos realm must match the domain you are trying
[13:31] <X-Scorpion> what does it mean
[13:31] <X-Scorpion> and how to fix it
[13:31] <X-Scorpion> sorry i am a newbie
[13:31] <bekks> !details | X-Scorpion
[13:32] <nashant> histo: the errsize is showing as 320GB, the full size of the disk
[13:35] <X-Scorpion> I have a problem joining Zentyal 3.01 to windows domain and when i configure the file server to be an addetional domain to windows AD with the rigth info it says "The server domain and kerberos realm must match the domain you are trying" and i expected it to connect without any errors
[13:35] <histo> nashant: try reading it backwards
[13:35] <nashant> histo.... huh?
[13:36] <cfhowlett> X-Scorpion, might be good to ask in #ubuntu-server as well
[13:36] <nashant> trying
[13:37] <X-Scorpion> thx
[13:37] <ThinkT510> !rootirc | bazorf
[13:37] <X-Scorpion> i am now
[13:37] <nashant> histo: still errsize 320GB
[13:37] <tad-pole> x-scorpion I have no idea about any of this   but I am searching.
[13:37] <X-Scorpion> thx alot
[13:38] <tad-pole> x-scorpion  Is this what you did? http://trac.zentyal.org/wiki/Documentation/Community/Development/multiplew
[13:39] <X-Scorpion> yes but with windows configurations
[13:40] <tad-pole> Did you contact the zentyal team?
[13:40] <X-Scorpion> yes at forums and no one is replying
[13:41] <bekks> X-Scorpion: How long have you been waiting?
[13:41] <arvendu> helo guys
[13:41] <X-Scorpion> more than a month
[13:42] <sqrt7744> Hey does anyone know how to get ps to show the full name? for example, ps x shows chromium-browser as /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chro, which isn't good enough for my script
[13:42] <tad-pole> x-scorpion Discussion of Zentyal Server, testing and development, takes place in #zentyal on irc.freenode.net. There is also a Spanish speaking #zentyal-es on ...    ???????????
[13:43] <arvendu> ppoe mode is not working in wireless network ?
[13:43] <X-Scorpion> i know and sorry for talking here but no one is anwsering me at all
[13:43] <X-Scorpion> there is just a few users there
[13:43] <ThinkT510> arvendu: pppoe = point to point protocol over ethernet
[13:43] <tad-pole> x-scorpion NP I am just going through what I would do if I was you making sure you did the same :)
[13:44] <X-Scorpion> thx
[13:44] <X-Scorpion> so do u know anything about joining Linux to windows Domain
[13:44] <iceroot> X-Scorpion: nt-domain or ad-domain?
[13:45] <tad-pole> sqrt7744 http://superuser.com/questions/103309/how-can-i-know-the-absolute-path-of-a-running-process    Is that helpful?
[13:45] <X-Scorpion> AD-Domain
[13:45] <bekks> sqrt7744: Then look for the following output: ps -aux | grep chrom
[13:45] <X-Scorpion> Windows Server 2008 R2
[13:45] <iceroot> X-Scorpion: then samba4 is the only way
[13:45] <X-Scorpion> ok i know that
[13:45] <X-Scorpion> but i don't know how to do it
[13:45] <bekks> sqrt7744: As you can see, the full path is displayed - so your terminal is just too small. :)
[13:45] <X-Scorpion> i am sorry
[13:45] <X-Scorpion> Zentyal already have Samba 4 in it
[13:46] <iceroot> X-Scorpion: https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/Domain_Member
[13:46] <tad-pole> iceroot <X-Scorpion> I have a problem joining Zentyal 3.01 to windows domain and when i configure the file server to be an addetional domain to windows AD with the rigth info it says "The server domain and kerberos realm must match the domain you are trying" and i expected it to connect without any errors
[13:47] <mercsniper> Anyone know where ColinWatson hangsout?
[13:48] <Austerity-Sucks> mercsniper,  mostly gay bars
[13:48] <mercsniper> not irl, on irc
[13:48] <bekks> sqrt7744: Please keep it in the channel.
[13:48] <sqrt7744> even with 'ps xwww'
[13:49] <bekks> sqrt7744: Thats why I said: ps aux ...
[13:49] <sqrt7744> bekks, sorry, that was a type i meant bekks but accidentally /msg
[13:50] <sqrt7744> bekks, ah! thanks!
[13:51] <Pici> mercsniper: I'd guess #ubuntu-devel, but I don't see him online recently.
[13:51] <flintser> i know this isn't appropriate place for this but i need quick help. can i install mysql with root account? i want to use wordpress so can i install it with root account
[13:51] <mercsniper> TY Pici
[13:52] <iceroot> flintser: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[13:52] <Pici> flintser: if you're using Ubuntu, this is the right place for that question
[13:52] <iceroot> flintser: DONT!!! run a database itself with the mysql-root user, always create an own user for each database which is not able to read/write other databases
[13:53] <flintser> i have installed all that. but when i created mysql database i did it with root so i need to use root privileges in wordpress install.
[13:53] <iceroot> flintser: dont do that!
[13:53] <bekks> flintser: No. Thats notr true. DONT do that.
[13:53] <flintser> ok :) what do i need to do then
[13:53] <iceroot> flintser: create a new user which can only read/write the specific database
[13:53] <ikonia> flintser: mysql's root user, is not the systems root user
[13:54] <flintser> so i adduser xxx and give it read/write to mysql-database
[13:55] <ikonia> flintser: no
[13:55] <c2tarun> Can anyone please tell me that why is evolution removed from Ubuntu and Thunderbird is the new default mail client?
[13:55] <ikonia> flintser: the mysql users are internal to mysql
[13:56] <ThinkT510> c2tarun: i don't know why, however evolution is still in the repos
[13:56] <flintser> well at the mysql-server install it asked for mysql root password and i gave it one, different of my real root account, so when wordpress asks for account / password can i use root + the password mysql-server asked
[13:56] <OerHeks> c2tarun, why thunderbird >> http://askubuntu.com/a/57094
[13:56] <c2tarun> ThinkT510, yeah, and there is BIG problem with thunderbird :( its message pane is only single line. It doesn't support multiple line message pane.
[13:57] <ikonia> flintser: do not use the mysql root account
[13:57] <bekks> flintser: DONT use the mysql-root user for anything. Creat another mysql-user which only has r/w access to the database desired.
[13:57] <ikonia> flintser: I really suggest you read the basic wordpress documents that advise you against this
[13:58] <flintser> i did the 5-minute installation all the way to this point where it asks for that username/password combination. this is why i ask because i'm really scared to do anything with root :D
[13:59] <c2tarun> OerHeks, hmm.... are you guys able to get a double line message pane in thunderbird, or you use single line only?
[13:59] <ikonia> flintser: #wordpress will guide you
[13:59]  * syntroPi invokes printf "127.0.0.1\twww.facebook.com">> /etc/hosts"
[14:00]  * ikonia request syntroPi keeps that sort of stuff to himself please
[14:01] <zefuros> hello there is anyone here online?
[14:01] <ikonia> zefuros: many people
[14:01] <ThinkT510> zefuros: of course
[14:01] <zefuros> im new to ubuntu and i encounter a huge boot problem
[14:02] <zefuros> is any ubuntu supporter online where i can reffer to so i wont spam my problems on the general chat?
[14:02] <flintser> ikonia, bekks: yes i'll ask one more question, then i'll shut up for non ubuntu bussiness. can i use this guide to create approppriate mysql-user to use for installation? http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-create-a-mysql-database-and-set-privileges-to-a-user/
[14:02] <ikonia> flintser: no idea, ask in #mysql
[14:02] <mayenit> theres allways someone to help you offcourse :)
[14:02] <zefuros> alright on wich user should i refer for my problem?
[14:03] <ThinkT510> zefuros: best to keep it in channel, thats the whole purpose of the channel
[14:03] <zefuros> so i can talk about it right now?
[14:03] <Myrtti> zefuros: yup
[14:03] <ThinkT510> yes
[14:03] <Ohmage> hey guys back again
[14:03] <zefuros> ok i will first give you a general view of what happening till now
[14:03] <piyush> hi i am new here
[14:03] <piyush> plzz help
[14:04] <bnkprob> Hi, internet banking from one bank does not work on my 12.10 installation. It works from another machine running 12.04. I use firefox. Can someone please help?
[14:04] <ThinkT510> piyush: to help we need to know the issue
[14:04] <Ohmage> just about to install 12.04.1 on my uefi laptop and am just wondering where i should be placing the efi bootloader install so as not to mess up the windows bootloader bug
[14:04] <bnkprob> After typing the userid/passwd for netbanking, the browser indefinitely waits.
[14:04] <piyush> ok i have a new dell inspiron 14 z having 4 gb ram ...500 gb hard disk..i 3 2nd generation processor
[14:05] <piyush> i am willing to completely switch to ubuntu
[14:05] <piyush> from windows
[14:05] <ThinkT510> bnkprob: is that just in forefox? have you tried with chromium?
[14:05] <bnkprob> chromium too, same issue
[14:05] <piyush> but during installation hard drives r not appearing
[14:05] <Ohmage> i ask as i see that if i install the grub2 bootloader in the wrong partition it will essentially give me headches if i want to boot windows up again
[14:05] <zefuros> i got a desktop computer with one ssd drive and and hdd on the ssd i got installed windows 8 update version and on the hdd a space for my windows 8 documents i shrinked a part of my hdd drive and deleted it to install ubuntu after installed ubuntu 12.10 i found several problems with graphics and i deleted the partitation and installed ubuntu 12.04
[14:06] <bnkprob> No matter which browser I use, I get stuck at the login page.
[14:07] <piyush> ok i have a new dell inspiron 14 z having 4 gb ram ...500 gb hard disk..i 3 2nd generation processor.ok i have a new dell inspiron 14 z having 4 gb ram ...500 gb hard disk..i 3 2nd generation processor but during installation hard drives r not appearing
[14:07] <ThinkT510> bnkprob: it doesn't use java does it (the bank website)?
[14:07] <zefuros> and there the problem showed up when i booted i saw error message not such device found after searching i saw i must re install grub so i did but the problem was still there then i thought since i installed grub on the hdd drive i should have it boot frist from bios i i made it boot first as result the bootloader finally showed up and i can start ubuntu now but i cant start windows 8 it immidiatly restarts upon loading logo
[14:08] <zefuros> any ideas?
[14:08] <Ohmage> just about to install 12.04.1 on my uefi laptop and am just wondering where i should be placing the efi bootloader install so as not to mess up the windows bootloader and get the bootloader bug
[14:08] <bnkprob> I tested 2 situations (a) No java installed (b) oracle 7 installed.
[14:08] <bekks> zefuros: Please use interpunctuation to simplify even reading your post.
[14:08] <bnkprob> No luck!
[14:08] <zefuros> how can i use that? sorry im new here
[14:09] <bnkprob> pops etc are enabled already
[14:09] <bekks> zefuros: In school, you learned about . , : ! and ?. Just use those signs please :)
[14:09] <zefuros> oh yes sorry , shall i write the things from beggning?
[14:10] <mayenit> !stats
[14:10] <bekks> zefuros: Please just described your problem, not that you took on you shoes and jacket to go out to buy a new computer, missed the bus, took a taxi... :)
[14:10] <piyush> anybody here who can help me its so mush up here
[14:10] <piyush> uffffffff
[14:11] <bnkprob> just checkout yourself http://www.icicibank.com personal banking
[14:11] <zefuros> ok. So after reinstalling the grub using a livecd ubuntu i cant get my windows 8 to start
[14:11] <bnkprob> type in dummy acct/pwd
[14:11] <Quest> I put my sata 512 gb HD in an HD case (for usb input for data and a separate power supply). While I was Coping data, there was an electricity power outage. when electricity came back, my harddisk partitions showed there capacity but where showing as "to be formated" with no data inside. How can I recover my fiels? any good software for ntfs?
[14:11] <flintser> Quest: for windows use recuva
[14:12] <sakkemo> is there a way to get the same dialog for selecting keyboard layout when as when installing ubuntu, instead of using setxkbmap and trying to figure out the correct arguments? I'm running minimal Ubuntu with i3
[14:12] <Quest> flintser that only gives the option for deleted files. but i my case i think all the partition is corrupted. (i use windows and linux both)
[14:12] <nibbler_> piyush: harddsiks not showing usually means your disk controller is not recognized.... can you change its behaviour in the bios maybe?
[14:13] <nibbler_> Quest: photorec is available for linux
[14:13] <ThinkT510> bnkprob: doesn't look like it uses java, try contacting them for help
[14:13] <nibbler_> Quest: even the source device went dead/unformatted?
[14:14] <zefuros> where i can refer for windows booting issues after installing ubuntu?
[14:14] <bnkprob> but how come it works from other ubuntu 12.04 systems?
[14:14] <Quest> nibbler_ sory?
[14:14] <mayenit> anyone clicked the raid button on the disk app?
[14:14] <Quest> flintser recuva only gives the option for deleted files. am i correct?
[14:14] <bnkprob> is there some place in ubuntu where different behaviour is configured?
[14:14] <nibbler_> Quest: you say your harddrive partitions are "to be formated" - you mean the one in the usb case (target?) or the source device of the data?
[14:14] <ThinkT510> bnkprob: maybe just sloppy website coding which breaks in newer browsers
[14:14] <Quest> nibbler_ dead/unformartted? what is?
[14:15] <piyush> yea nibbler i used AHCI mode frm intel smart security but still same prblm
[14:15] <nibbler_> Quest: not-formated
[14:15] <Quest> nibbler_ well,
[14:15] <bnkprob> I mean it works in firefox 17.x and up.
[14:15] <nibbler_> piyush: intel smart security sounds worrying to me
[14:15] <flintser> Quest: http://www.piriform.com/recuva/features
[14:15] <bnkprob> on other ubuntus
[14:15] <Quest> nibbler_ i was coping data fine before power outage. at resum the partitions "appeared" as unformated
[14:15] <bnkprob> BTW in your test just now how far did you get?
[14:16] <nibbler_> Quest: on partitions. the one that held the data before, or the one that you were copying to?
[14:16] <zefuros> someone here who has time to help me? unfortunately i didnt saw response or i didnt notice so please dont take me wrong
[14:16] <piyush> sorry it was intel smart rapid start technology :P
[14:16] <ThinkT510> bnkprob: i didn't test, i just looked at the login page, seems like just javascript
[14:16] <piyush> in sata mode
[14:16] <escott> Quest, was this a low-level copy or a normal copy
[14:16] <piyush> i changed it to AHCI
[14:17] <ThinkT510> !uefi | zefuros
[14:17] <piyush> and tried trial verision of ubuntu is reading my drive
[14:17] <piyush> but during installation it is not reading
[14:17] <Quest> escott nibbler_ i was just coping by kubuntu mouse and dolphin. dont know tech
[14:17] <cheekee> Quest: I once messed up my Windows partition system, and rebooted the Pc. but was able to fix it after reviewing the gparted error logs
[14:17] <escott> Quest, thats a normal copy. you should certainly still be able to see the disks. you may have to run an fsck (and if its NTFS you must do so from Windows)
[14:18] <Quest> cheekee i did that. but partition tool with kubuntu dont let me mount the partitions in the first place. escott
[14:18] <nibbler_> Quest: what was the source and what was the destination of your copy adventure? did you copy from /home/quest to /media/usbdisk?
[14:18] <Quest> escott nibbler_ yes i see the disks and their sizes but no data
[14:18] <mayenit> anyone clicked the raid button under creat in disk util?
[14:18] <escott> Quest, you have run fsck/chkdsk and it comes back clean
[14:19] <Quest> fsck dont check the partitions and nor mount it
[14:19] <Quest> i tried fsck -f even. but no use
[14:19] <Quest> it gives code for reboot
[14:19] <Quest> i think 02
[14:19] <Quest> and again 02 after reboot
[14:19] <mayenit> anyone clicked the raid button under create in disk util?
[14:20] <escott> !anyone
[14:20] <escott> !language | ShameSpiral
[14:20] <Guest87983> I would like some help with installing ubuntu 12.04 server?
[14:21] <escott> Quest, what filesystem type is this
[14:21] <Guest87983> I am trying to install  12.04 on Ibm server
[14:22] <escott> !ask | Guest87983 (also there are a dozen or more Guest#### in channel, please /nick to something else)
[14:22] <mayenit> Has anyone clicked the raid button under create in disk util?
[14:22] <bekks> mayenit: I bet someone already did - but why?
[14:23] <DJones> mayenit: You'd be better asking your real question and explaining what the issue is
[14:23] <Guest87983> I am trying to configure software raid1 on the server, when I click on the bootable flag it does not toggle to on
[14:23] <Guest87983> I is always in the off mode
[14:25] <mayenit> im just trying to get curious people to click it and have them fsck
[14:25] <Guest87983> Is there any specific channel for ubuntu servers?
[14:26] <mayenit> just like the guy that made that gui intended
[14:26] <DJones> mayenit: Why do you want people to do that
[14:26] <DJones> Guest87983: THere is #ubuntu-server which might be able to help
[14:26] <nibbler_> Guest87983: you could use fdisk to mark both partitions bootable manually (option: a) - but this does not work on raid level, but only on the underlaying partitions/disks
[14:26] <Physicist> Ubuntu Tweak do not open. Any device?
[14:26] <mayenit> so that more people join this channel
[14:27] <mayenit> !lusers
[14:27] <lukecarrier> mayenit, don't be "that guy"
[14:27] <zefuros> ubottu: thanks for the post you sent me and running the commands i can tell both windows and ubuntu are installed on legacy mode
[14:28] <zefuros> lol :P
[14:28] <Physicist> Ubuntu Tweak do not open. Any device?
[14:28] <Physicist> I tried reinstall but did nont work.
[14:28] <zefuros> is here someone who can help me solve my windows 8 boot problem?
[14:28] <escott> Guest87165, mdadm raid could never be "bootable" by a bios
[14:29] <zefuros> escott: hello there
[14:30] <iceroot> escott: Guest87983 the single hdds from the raid array can be booted and then mdadm starts. you can also remove a single hdd (raid1) and boot it on another system without raid
[14:31] <zefuros> iceroot: hello there
[14:31] <nexus`> zefuros
[14:31] <nexus`> i believe the UEFI fix was only just released
[14:31] <nexus`> and to apply it would take quite a bit of linux knowledge
[14:32] <nexus`> http://www.zdnet.com/linux-foundation-releases-windows-secure-boot-fix-7000011084/
[14:32] <zefuros> nexus seems like i installed both OS in legacy mode im sure about the ubuntu not sure for windows cause its on a different drive
[14:32] <zefuros> can you please help me boot my windows?
[14:33] <nexus`> maybe hold on
[14:33] <zefuros> ok thanks :D
[14:35] <nexus`> !grub
[14:35] <zefuros> nexus i installed windows 8 first and ubuntu second
[14:37] <nexus`> :S i dont have a system with both windows/linux on it to mess around to find a solution for you. all i can do is guess and i think that is probably not for the best
[14:37] <Ohmage> zefuros are you on UEFI system??
[14:37] <nexus`> i think when you reboot you will see a quick prompt saying press f8 or something to choose what to boot into
[14:38] <Ohmage> nexus it depends if hes on UEFIbios thing
[14:38] <Ohmage> as if he installed the grub bootloader over the windows one he needs to fix that
[14:38] <nexus`> yeah thats why i said i can only guess
[14:38] <nexus`> it appears you know more than me
[14:38] <zefuros> ohmage even if my bios support uefi, i checked out and seems that i installed both windows and ubuntu on legacy mode
[14:38] <Ohmage> im in the midst of doing this all on my new laptop thats been ruined by windows and UEFI
[14:38] <nexus`> i havent messed with anything that has UEFI yet
[14:39] <Ohmage> ok which bootloader are you using?
[14:39] <Ohmage> grub"
[14:39] <Ohmage> 2
[14:39] <zefuros> grub
[14:39] <Ohmage> and yet you cant see windows with it??
[14:40] <zefuros> i can , but when i try to boot windows it restarts my system
[14:40] <nexus`> is there a reason you installed legacy mode?
[14:40] <Ohmage> yeh i steered clear of legacy cant remember why but i think might be ur issue
[14:41] <zefuros> i dont even know the difference between efi and legacy mode
[14:41] <sirstan>  Anyone use Monit?  Im having syntax issues with 'check program....'
[14:41] <Ohmage> did the machine your on have preinstalled os??
[14:41] <escott> zefuros, EFI an emulate a BIOS system. when it does so that is called "Legacy Mode". you cannot boot Win8 with legacy enabled
[14:41] <zefuros> the windows are on my ssd drive and the ubuntu on my hdd, is there a way to check if windows 8 are installed in EFI or legacy mode?
[14:42] <Ohmage> right back up a bit
[14:42] <Ohmage> can you enter your UEFIbios menu
[14:42] <zefuros> no i built the machine myself and installed windows 7 then updated to 8
[14:42] <zefuros> yes i can
[14:42] <Ohmage> if soo try putting it in uefi mode and seeing what bootloader does when u reboot
[14:42] <friend> Hello help me download youtube videos
[14:42] <Ohmage> ah ok
[14:42] <zefuros> how can i put it on uefi mode?
[14:43] <Ohmage> go to boot settings
[14:43] <Ohmage> should be an enable
[14:43] <Ohmage> in boot sub menu
[14:43] <zefuros> ok so i must restart now to check that right?
[14:43] <Ohmage> might as well
[14:43] <GermainZ> Hey everyone, I installed 12.04 and it fixed some of the issues I was having with 12.10, but my brightness is still locked to the max. Reading around the web, it's suggested to upgrade my BIOS, but it's already updated (although it is kinda old, latest update: late 2011). Also installed modifying grub, without effect. Any suggestions at all? Thanks!
[14:44] <Ohmage> if it does nothing then go back to legacy and im not sure what u need to do im afraid
[14:44] <friend> Pls i want help to download youtube videos
[14:44] <zefuros> ok i will restart check on uefi and come back to tell you if both OS running then
[14:44] <joesl> I have a share on my Samba network and one of the folder there's a folder where is rsynced but everytime after the sync I need to do "chmod -R 775 /media/backup/folder" in order to open it over Samba. What am I missing?
[14:44] <zefuros> but as i read both windows and linux must be installed in one more
[14:44] <zefuros> mode*
[14:44] <jpds> friend: That's against the YouTube T&C, so not supported here.
[14:45] <nexus`> atm UEFI is just a hassle for linux zefuros
[14:45] <Ohmage> it is but at the same time the only way to learn the wrongs of it is to try :P
[14:45]  * Ohmage is discovering all this the hard way
[14:45] <nexus`> joesl: try chown?
[14:45] <zefuros> ok i will reboot check and come back to tell you the results please wait for me
[14:45] <cafecat> hi all, anyone using the yubiserver on ubuntu? What is the most recent version  number? I have some newbie questions about getting started with it...
[14:46] <joesl> nexus`: ah, you mean I should chown 775?
[14:46] <zefuros> yeah i know i learned widows cmd and other stuff the "hard way" , so i suppose i will also do on linux
[14:46] <nexus`> something like sudo chown -R /media/* joesl:joesl
[14:46] <nexus`> i forget the exact syntax
[14:46] <nexus`> basically you want to make the permissions editable as your user
[14:46] <nexus`> changing ownership
[14:46] <nexus`> (chown)
[14:47] <tury> hi
[14:47] <friend> Any youtube downloader software for backtrack 5r3?
[14:47] <DJones> !backtrack | friend
[14:48] <Quest> escott ntfs
[14:48] <Ohmage> nexus, im currently just about to install ubuntu on a partition on my own UEFI system in the installer when i get to the partition selection im a little confused
[14:48] <Quest> escott ntfs. appologies for late reply
[14:48] <escott> Quest, you have to boot windows and run chkdsk there.
[14:48] <joesl> nexus`: sudo: unable to execute /bin/chown: Argument list too long
[14:48] <tury> there's a way to connect remotly  x11vnc with multiple users?
[14:48] <nexus`> hold on
[14:49] <Quest> escott yes. windows says. it must be formated first
[14:49] <Ohmage> ok
[14:49] <escott> Quest, sounds like a windows problem, or that the damage is too severe for windows to even recognize the disk
[14:50] <nexus`> sudo chown -R joesl:joesl /media/*
[14:50] <wdp> tury, not sure if that helps you, but tightvnc has a -shared parameter.
[14:51] <joesl> nexus`: well, new files will be comming in.. perhaps I'll just add it to after the init.d..
[14:51] <tury> wdp, thanks , i try
[14:51] <joesl> so it does chown 775 automaticly after rsync
[14:51] <nexus`> i would think with the /media/* it would always allow access
[14:51] <zefuros> ohmage are you here?
[14:51] <Ohmage> yes
[14:51] <nexus`> im not sure why you are getting permission errors changing every time
[14:51] <nexus`> maybe theres an rsync option you can add?
[14:52] <Ohmage> what happened zefuros
[14:52] <nexus`> (im not to familiar with samba)
[14:52] <zefuros> i tried with efi mode enabled and i cant boot windows 8
[14:52] <Ohmage> but you can boot ubuntu?
[14:52] <zefuros> yeah i can boot ubuntu normally
[14:52] <Ohmage> hmm
[14:52] <nexus`> mount your ssd zefuros
[14:53] <zefuros> wait i want to add up something
[14:53] <wdp> tury, does it do what you want?
[14:53] <zefuros> you said windows cant install in legacy mode , so my windows 8 are surely in efi mode right?
[14:53] <Ohmage> nexus cud i bend ur ear/eyes a minute?
[14:53] <nexus`> i think your GRUB might be confused as you have win8 on an SSD and ubuntu on a HDD
[14:54] <nexus`> yeah sure Ohmage
[14:54] <Ohmage> im not sure tbh as i have only just been introdused to uefi myself
[14:54] <nexus`> ditto. i just know its a problem
[14:54] <zefuros> so nexus i follow your steps now?
[14:54] <Ohmage> nexus: basically iv gotten to the partitioning part of ubuntu install from live disc, and iv got a partition i want to use
[14:54] <nexus`> i dont have any steps bud. i dont want to blindly give advice that could end up  messing something up for you
[14:55] <Ohmage> but im very unfamiliar with how this bit works in this version
[14:55] <tury> wdp, i have a machine with 3 users and i want to access remotly from three different machines with x11vnc
[14:55] <zefuros> so no one here can help?
[14:55] <nexus`> my advice would be to wait until someone with more experience in this situation can help
[14:55] <nexus`> zefuros: someone will be able to
[14:55] <nexus`> what do you mean Ohmage
[14:55] <Ohmage> zefuros if you lurk a while and ask for help regarding uefi stuff every now and then someone will be around im sure
[14:55] <joesl> Could someone tell me why these commands doesn't run after eachother? rsync -pav backup-lokal@aff.se:/var/www/aff.se/application/orders/ /media/backup/orders/ && chmod -R 775 /media/backup/orders
[14:55] <zefuros> you told me to mount my ssd you got some ideas for that?
[14:56] <nexus`> yeah read the mount manual
[14:56] <nexus`> !mount
[14:56] <wdp> joesl, is the rsync command failing?
[14:56] <nexus`> i dunno what your SSD is called
[14:56] <nibbler_> joesl: because the first one does not exit with a true state.
[14:56] <nexus`> again this is just a guess
[14:57] <Ohmage> nexus: well iv got a 100gb partition i just formatted to ext4 with gparted for ubuntu. when i get to the partitioner on ubi installer if i just highlight that partition and set the bootloader install to the same partition will the rest automate for me from there
[14:57] <Ohmage> or do i have to manually split that partition up for the boot and other stuff
[14:57] <nexus`> oh unless you want to customize it will ask you if u want to go default
[14:58] <nexus`> it will it all by itself
[14:58] <GermainZ> Can the GPU drivers be the cause of me not being able to change my brightness?
[14:58] <zefuros> wait nexus if i mount my ssd on the boot directory that means that i can solve my problem?
[14:58] <Ohmage> ok another thing when i formatted that partition it was after installing fedora on it before hand which did it as an lvm volum i unflagged lvm when i repartitioned but it leaves me with a 1.7gb chunk of used after deleting the partition no matter what i do
[14:59] <nexus`> idk man. like i said im just guessing here. i would assume your BIOS boot order is CD>HDD
[14:59] <Ohmage> is that normal
[14:59] <GermainZ> I've tried version current-updates, but I suppose I can give the rest a try as well if it might be the problem.
[14:59] <zefuros> yeah but i left my cd drive empty , so the grub appeared and i booted ubuntu from there
[14:59] <nexus`> and ubuntu is on your HDD
[15:00] <nexus`> but windows is on your SSD
[15:00] <zefuros> yeah
[15:00] <zefuros> yeah
[15:00] <nexus`> no Ohmage
[15:00] <zefuros> but
[15:00] <FloodBot1> zefuros: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:00] <nexus`> just install over it Ohmage
[15:00] <Ohmage> ok ill see what happens
[15:00] <Ohmage> thanks
[15:00] <nexus`> ubuntu should clean it up
[15:01] <nexus`> the installer, rather
[15:01] <zefuros> if i change the boot priority to my ssd>hdd then grub dont load
[15:01] <nexus`> so you've tried that?
[15:01] <GermainZ> zefuros, you can try EasyBCD for Windows to add an entry to grub
[15:01] <radiochatr> hi
[15:01] <zefuros> i got a hint might help, before installing ubuntu (when i just had windows 8) my drive priority was ssd>hdd
[15:02] <radiochatr> I have a question about Kerberos 5
[15:02] <GermainZ> You should then be able to select Windows or Grub to load.
[15:02] <radiochatr> one thing I need to solve is how to map the local username to the username registered on the Kerberos server
[15:02] <zefuros> after installing ubuntu and run into this problem i installed grub using a live cd and now i can only load grub if my priority is hdd>sdd
[15:02] <tieinv> update grub
[15:03] <radiochatr> what is the correct syntax for using auth_to_local_names ?
[15:03] <Quest> escott it shows partitions but with size 0.  linux shows partitions with actual size as they were but with no data either
[15:03] <zefuros> germainz i cant boot my windows OS
[15:03] <GermainZ> Oh, didn't know that.
[15:03] <radiochatr> in /etc/krb5.conf ?
[15:04] <Ohmage> nexus: the ubuntu installer first told me the partition didnt have a root path so i gave it a mount of / but it seems i have to configure my own partitions completely in this which im not so sure of..
[15:04] <dcope> Anyone running Ubuntu on a Sony Vaio S 13P?
[15:04] <zefuros> when i try to boot windows 8 from grub it restarts and i think thats due the priority change from ssd>hdd to hdd>sssd
[15:04] <Quest> escott what time is expected to recover a 200gb partitons/
[15:04] <zefuros> but having ssd>hdd i cant have grub running
[15:05] <Ohmage> nexus: as in after the mount point being / on the whole partition it then said i havenot assigned swap space which in other installs has all been done automagically for me
[15:05] <zefuros> nexus can you help me on that?
[15:05] <zefuros> nexus?
[15:05] <Quest> second problem with some other computer: where are the partition info like its size, type, and others are stored?
[15:05] <|Maldito|> algun canal en español ?
[15:05] <escott> Quest, however long it takes to read it
[15:06] <Pici> !es | |Maldito|
[15:07] <Quest> escott recuva scan on windows says 5 hours scan time left
[15:07] <Quest> escott recuva scan on windows says 5 hours scan time left
[15:07] <nexus`> yay netsplit
[15:07] <Ohmage> lol
[15:07] <Ohmage> nexus: this is doing my nut in dude
[15:08] <zefuros> nexus can you help me with something?
[15:08] <nexus`> zefuros: i really dunno man
[15:08] <nexus`> do you have anything important on either drive?
[15:08] <zefuros> can i get grub running with disk priority ssd>hdd? this was the way it was
[15:08] <nexus`> whats that Ohmage
[15:09] <nexus`> you can edit your grub config yeah
[15:09] <Ohmage> i mounted the 100gb partition with / as the mount to be root but if i install just like that it says i havent allocated swap space and stuff which normally the installers iv used before will automagically do for me
[15:09] <dcope> Anyone running Ubuntu on a Sony Vaio S 13P?  I can't seem to find the compatability listed online.
[15:09] <nexus`> but i dont exactly know what you need to do in it
[15:09] <zefuros> yeah got work files on ssd i cannot format or delete it and the hdd where my documents are from windows i can format tht i got backup
[15:09] <marahin> Humm.. Do you guys know any way to drop an mp3 file on my iPhone through Ubuntu, but without iTunes?
[15:10] <Ohmage> iphone = itunes in general
[15:10] <nexus`> zefuros: i would just be patient and wait for someone who knows more than me dude. dont risk losing work files and shit
[15:10] <Ohmage> unless you hack out the phone i think not sure but
[15:10] <nexus`> also thats strange Ohmage
[15:10] <nexus`> somewhere in the process ubuntu should set up your swap space and everything
[15:10] <Ohmage> zefuros: i agree with nexus if you rush it on uefi stuff you may be unable to get any help at all mate as you may mess something up destructively
[15:10] <zefuros> nexus: ok i shall wait but how can i tell someone expirienced enough logged in?
[15:10] <nexus`> reformat that partition and try again
[15:10] <AxForest> das missklick
[15:11] <marahin> Ohmage, you don't say. Also, I know there's a workaround, yet still it's necessary to install few apps on the iPhone, which I can't afford right now (because i don't have itunes on linux)
[15:11] <marahin> @ iphone thingie
[15:11] <Ohmage> nexus: i know right, wud u care to have a look for me in a vnc?
[15:11] <nexus`> zefuros: i would just ask every 30 minutes or so
[15:11] <nexus`> cant Ohmage im about to go to work
[15:11] <Ohmage> okay
[15:11] <Ohmage> no worries
[15:11] <nexus`> but i would just reformat it all
[15:11] <nexus`> clean it all off
[15:12]  * Ohmage loves the learning curve of windows to linux even more the new uefi things
[15:12] <zefuros> nexus can i add up something more? on hdd i got a partition before the linux one with windows documents , i got backup of these so i can delete all the hdd and make a new partition
[15:12] <Ohmage> gotta love getting grabbed by tha baws by ms
[15:12] <atim> I am running ubuntu 1204....it shows i have a wireless connection here in my room, however can not load anything from internet.  my iphone can open on same network?
[15:12] <nexus`> pop your ubuntu install cd in and it should have some default selection
[15:12] <nexus`> yeah sorry i dunno much of anything about all this UEFI shit
[15:12] <Ohmage> it is truly shit
[15:12] <zefuros> but im not in uefi
[15:12] <IdleOne> !language
[15:12] <Ohmage> but fun to learn the next hype
[15:12] <Ohmage> sowwie
[15:12] <zefuros> ubuntu is installed in legacy
[15:12] <nexus`> i was talking to Ohmage zefuros
[15:13] <zefuros> oh sorry xD
[15:13]  * Ohmage is off to find some hacky heads who can help
[15:13] <Ohmage> cheers anyway
[15:13] <nexus`> as for your case like i said i would wait for more experienced people and not risk losing important info
[15:13] <nexus`> Ohmage: try #linux
[15:13] <nexus`> you too zefuros
[15:13] <nexus`> both of these problems arent specific to ubuntu
[15:13] <nexus`> might find more general expertise there
[15:14] <Ohmage> zefuros: make a long descriptive of your problem in your chat and send it, then every 5-10 mins go to your text input and press the up arrow and it will auto fill with the last thing you sent
[15:14] <Ohmage> zefuros: make a long descriptive of your problem in your chat and send it, then every 5-10 mins go to your text input and press the up arrow and it will auto fill with the last thing you sent
[15:14] <Ohmage> like that
[15:14] <Ohmage> then eventually i hope u will get the right answer
[15:15] <nexus`> good luck to you guys. sorry i couldnt be of more help but off to work now
[15:15] <Ohmage> cheers any way dude
[15:16] <zefuros> i cant join the linux channel it says invite only
[15:16] <yeehaw> Ohmage: Why don't you partition a swap space the size of your ram?
[15:16] <zefuros> thanks ohmage have a nice day
[15:17] <zefuros> sirry i meant nexus
[15:19] <radiochatr> anyone?
[15:19] <Ohmage> yeehaw: thanks im pretty noob for linux so am looking for fairly straightforward help like that XD
[15:20] <Ohmage> yeehaw: my laptop advertises 6gb ram so what would that type out as in the partitioner
[15:20] <Ohmage> if you dont mind
[15:20] <Ohmage> lol
[15:20] <jhutchins_wk> zefuros: /msg nickserv help register
[15:20] <zefuros> i need some help, i got windows 8 on my ssd drive and installed ubuntu on my hdd drive with priority ssd>hdd . Now i can only open grub with changing priority to hdd>ssd and i cant boot my windows 8 , it restarts please if someone has the expirience reply
[15:21] <bharath> how to open jnlp files in ubuntu 12.10?
[15:21] <jhutchins_wk> !repeat | Ohmage
[15:21] <Ohmage> yeehaw: my laptop advertises 6gb ram so what would that type out as in the partitioner
[15:22] <michyprima> 0hmage you don't really need  a swap partition if you don't need hibernation
[15:22] <Quest>  when to use a deep scan for data recovery?
[15:22] <michyprima> it's a good amount of ram
[15:23] <zefuros> i need some help, i got windows 8 on my ssd drive and installed ubuntu on my hdd drive with priority ssd>hdd . Now i can only open grub with changing priority to hdd>ssd and i cant boot my windows 8 , it restarts please if someone has the expirience reply
[15:23] <Ohmage> jhutchins_wk: im just surprised that the ubuntu installer options i have are either wipe the whole disk and install on the whole 500gb or to do it all myself, i know there shud be an option to write alongside windows but its not giving me that choise :/
[15:23] <thanigai> i installed ubuntu 12.04 on 8gb pen drive. now i want to copy 16gb another pen drive. how can i do? please help
[15:23] <yeehaw> Ohmage: It does not have to be precisely, just use 6GB or 6144MB
[15:23] <STMelon> YAY, malfunctioning bots
[15:23] <Ohmage> okay and best put at the begginning or end of the partition as im given the choice
[15:23] <yeehaw> Ohmage: And you can just leave the windows partition alone and the grub bootloader will be able to boot windows for you
[15:24] <Ohmage> ??
[15:24] <jhutchins_wk> Ohmage: I haven't run the installer in a while, but I believe that what you're looking for requires manual partitioning, because it requires knowledge of what _you_ want to do with the existing data.
[15:24] <yeehaw> Ohmage: I would put / at the beginning and after that swap
[15:24] <yeehaw> So at the beginning
[15:24] <zefuros> yeehaw: do you have knowledge on solving ubuntu/windows boot problems?
[15:24] <Kane274> Hi everyone, I created a RSA Key in Ubuntu. I activated RSA authentication in the ssh conf and passed the private key to my windows pc. I want to connect via putty. It won let me :( My question is, should I be able to connect with the linux key on windows ?
[15:24] <yeehaw> zefuros: depends, hit me
[15:24] <jhutchins_wk> Ohmage: Are you saving the windows partition?
[15:24] <Quest>  when to use a deep scan for data recovery?
[15:25] <Ohmage> jhutchins_wk: right now im experimenting with linux as the system is a new preinstalled uefi win8 laptop
[15:25] <Ohmage> so yes im going to leave a large chunk of it untouched
[15:26] <zefuros> yeehaw: i have a desktop i installed windows 8 on my ssd drive and then installed ubuntu on hdd drive with priority ssd>hdd, after that i got an error message no such device and i noticed it is the grub so i changed the priority to hdd>sdd and i can load grub and boot ubuntu but i cant boot my windows 8 it restarts my system on the logo screen
[15:26] <jhutchins_wk> Ohmage: You're in somewhat unknown teritory with w8.  It's not a UEFI system is it?
[15:27] <Ohmage> then at some stage im going to make a back up of the win8 pc partition on an external terrabyte drive and maybe just do a fresh install, only its a gaming laptop with an nvidia dedicated 1gb graphics card so to completely remove windows seems like a little bit of a waste as much as i hate it
[15:27] <Ohmage> indeed it is
[15:27] <jhutchins_wk> Ohmage: Do the backup first before you start partitioning the drive.
[15:27] <yeehaw> zefuros: What happens if you boot into ubuntu and run grub-update ?
[15:28] <Ohmage> fedora installed really smoothly tbh and did an auto partition of the partition i made for linux
[15:28] <Zylinx> are freenode servers having problems ? i keep getting DC ?
[15:28] <Zylinx> connection reset by peer
[15:28] <zefuros> yeehaw: i tried that it finds my windows 8 loader then i reboot and the same thing happens grub see my windows 8 loader but my system restarts when i try to boot it
[15:28] <Ohmage> but i didnt like it compared to ubuntu as im used to that a little more
[15:29] <Ohmage> jhutchins_wk im only partitioning the storage area of the hd at the moment and being sure not to touch any of the existing partis that came as it was
[15:29] <Ohmage> iv been reading up quite a bit on the whole issue as i know bricking is easily done if you go in headstrong
[15:29] <jhutchins_wk> Ohmage: Still, you should make a backup any time you're working with partitioning or reconfiguring the disk.
[15:29] <Ohmage> ok
[15:29] <yeehaw> zefuros: You could try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/211339/windows-8-wont-boot-after-installation-of-12-10
[15:30] <yeehaw> zefuros: I don't have any experience with windows 8 specifically
[15:30] <Ohmage> even though the drive has a windows recovery partition ??? right at the beggining
[15:31] <yeehaw> Ohmage: That's just for the OS, not for the data ;-)
[15:31] <Ohmage> ill go with what you said and reboot into windows now and create a backup dvd or something
[15:31] <Ohmage> yeehaw:i have no data is completely fresh laptop only data on there is bloat anyway lol
[15:32] <Ohmage> yay for oem and ms bloat
[15:32] <yeehaw> Ohmage: If you don't have any important data you could just download a windows 8 iso and install from that
[15:32] <Ohmage> can i do that legally
[15:32] <zefuros> yeehaw:  i dont think its the same. When i sudo update-grub it find my windows 8 loader on sda1
[15:32] <Ohmage> i guess so because these new boxes come without disks now
[15:32] <sideeffect> is there such a site, where i can post a text file online. then send linkl to you, so that you can see that text/message?
[15:32] <ishan> hi can anyone help me on ldconfig
[15:32] <ishan> ?
[15:32] <yeehaw> Ohmage: Yes, sec
[15:33] <Ohmage> thnks
[15:33] <ishan> what happens if I remove exec from /sbin/ldconfig
[15:33] <ishan> and add some cede?
[15:33] <zefuros> yeehaw: but if i try to boot it my system restarts , is there a way i can make the grub running with my boot priority ssd>hdd (ubuntu are installed on hdd)
[15:33] <ThinkT510> !paste | sideeffect
[15:34] <jhutchins_wk> Ohmage: Recovery partitions tend to write a new disk image, which will destroy your ubuntu installation.
[15:34] <yeehaw> Ohmage: http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/18309-windows-8-upgrade-iso-download-create.html
[15:34] <ishan> what happens if I remove exec from /sbin/ldconfig and add some code?
[15:35] <jhutchins_wk> yeehaw: Recent windows installers tend to be more closely matched to the license key; they are no longer as generic as they were.
[15:35] <yeehaw> zefuros: Why do  you want to run grub from the ssd? It does not really matter as it's only used for booting and is very small
[15:35] <Ohmage> jhutchins_wk: as of yet i have no ubuntu installation lol, im putting myself through as steep a learning curve as i can handle while trying not to break anything lol
[15:35] <Ohmage> :P
[15:35] <Ohmage> thanks yee
[15:35] <jhutchins_wk> yeehaw: You have to get the right installer for the license you own.
[15:35] <yeehaw> jhutchins_wk: I did not know that, stupid licensing :(
[15:35] <yeehaw> Ohmage: welcome
[15:36] <Ohmage> yeehaw: where wud i find my windows key though as came with no disc etc
[15:36] <pip__> Hi everyone.  Can I install linux headers without looking up which kernel I'm using?  Using uname in the apt-get command or something?
[15:36] <Ohmage> yeehaw: maybe registering the laptop??
[15:36] <pip__> It's not a big deal if I can't I just wonder if it's possible
[15:37] <OerHeks> pip__, use " sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)  "
[15:37] <yeehaw> Ohmage: It is not on the bottom of the laptop?
[15:37] <jhutchins_wk> Ohmage: The manufacturer's documentation will tell you.  Through w7 there was always a holographic sticker with the license, usually on the laptop itself.
[15:37] <Ohmage> wow
[15:37] <_raven_> i need help installing a RTL2838UHIDIR / 0ccd:00d7 TerraTec Electronic GmbH dvb-t stick please - any firmware?
[15:37] <pip__> That's great, thanks very much for the help
[15:37] <zefuros> yeehaw: i wanted to try it since my system with windows 8 had this priority ssd>hdd and i thought by changing to hdd>ssd that caused my problem booting windows 8
[15:38] <yeehaw> zefuros: That is very unlikely, I think it's probably caused by trying to boot an uefi windows 8, which the article I linked might help you with
[15:39] <GermainZ> For a live USB (using my old ipod nano), should I format it in any way, or will fat32 do it?
[15:40] <zefuros> yeehaw: so if i reinstall ubuntu with cdboot efi:on it might solve the problem?
[15:40] <kicklighter> hotmedal in unix likes a driver is uncomon thing....maybe you compile one for yourself...
[15:40] <kicklighter> ubottu par le vas engles...wi???
[15:40] <jhutchins_wk> GermainZ: It depends on whether you're building it yourself or using an image.  An image will format it for you.
[15:40] <yeehaw> zefuros: Why don't you edit the grub config before reinstalling everything?
[15:41] <yeehaw> zefuros: http://askubuntu.com/questions/42728/grub-update-doesnt-find-the-other-os-anymore
[15:41] <GermainZ> jhutchins_wk, thanks.
[15:41] <yeehaw> zefuros: wrong link, http://askubuntu.com/questions/211339/windows-8-wont-boot-after-installation-of-12-10
[15:41] <Ohmage> nexus: bit stupid that they went through all this effort to lock down the hardware with "secure"boot and then leave the sn key for a windows iso on the bottom as surely anyone who stole it could just then use that to reboot the computer....
[15:42] <Ohmage> windows ;facepalm;
[15:43] <yeehaw> Ohmage: You can unlock it with the license key?
[15:43] <jhutchins_wk> Ohmage: The point of secure boot is to prevent you from booting a live CD or installing an alternative operating system, thus gaining access to the windows system without it's permission controlls.
[15:43] <Ohmage> hmm
[15:43] <_raven_> i need help installing a RTL2838UHIDIR / 0ccd:00d7 TerraTec Electronic GmbH dvb-t stick please - any firmware?
[15:43] <Ohmage> idk about unlock it with key you mean unlock the password ??
[15:44] <yeehaw> Ohmage: You just said that too nexus
[15:44] <Ohmage> lol whoops
[15:47] <aeiou> hiya
[15:47] <aeiou> how do I upgrade to the 1.0.0 release of this module? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/augeas
[15:47] <arvendu> how can i update ubuntu because i am getting like please report info something like that
[15:47] <Quest> its silly, iam using recuva, and some files are recovered fine. but I do not see the most important folder in available list for recovery (i didnt overwrite anything since the formate cause by power outage). any clues why?
[15:48] <aeiou> apt-get install augeas gives me the stable 0.10 release
[15:48] <zefuros> yeehaw: i followed the steps but i cant replace the 40_custom content it says im not the owner
[15:48] <jhutchins_wk> _raven_: That device may not be supported yet in ubuntu.
[15:48] <zefuros> yeehaw: how can i take these permissions?
[15:48] <DJones> aeiou: the 1.0 release is only available for the development release 13.04
[15:49] <OerHeks> aeiou, v1.0 is only available in raring 13.04
[15:49] <aeiou> thanks - how do you know that from looking at it?
[15:49] <yeehaw> zefuros: gtksudo gedit filename
[15:50] <aeiou> oh i seee
[15:50] <aeiou> 'raring ringtail'
[15:50] <aeiou> well thats a pain, how do i install it for 12.04?
[15:50] <zefuros> yeehaw: i dont even know what this does, does it give me permissions? im from the folder
[15:50] <jhutchins_wk> _raven_: There is some discussion of that device in the forums.
[15:50] <OerHeks> aeiou, build the souce yourself
[15:51] <_raven_> jhutchins_wk, in which ?
[15:51] <GermainZ> zefuros, just came in so not sure if this is it ... But did you try sudo filemanager?
[15:51] <yeehaw> zefuros: On the command line you can use sudo to get root permissions, gtksudo is used for opening graphical programs with elevated permissions
[15:51] <jhutchins_wk> _raven_: ubuntu forums discuss using it with ubuntu.
[15:51] <GermainZ> Replace filemanager with your nautilus or thunar or whatever it is you're using.
[15:51] <yeehaw> zefuros: See 'man gtksudo'
[15:51] <_raven_> jhutchins_wk, ok tnx ill take a look
[15:51] <jhutchins_wk> _raven_: mythtv forums may discuss it more generally.
[15:52] <OerHeks> yeehaw, gksudo, not gtksudo
[15:52] <jhutchins_wk> _raven_: http://linuxidx.com/linux.php?q=Re%3A+Help+with+RTL2832U+DVB-T+dongle+
[15:52] <yeehaw> OerHeks: Woops, I always use vim, my bad
[15:52] <yeehaw> zefuros: gksudo instead of gtksudo
[15:52] <zefuros> yeehaw: the gtksudo gedit filename didnt worked on terminal
[15:53] <GermainZ> gksudo *
[15:53] <jhutchins_wk> zefuros: it's gksudo - no t.
[15:54] <Quest> its silly, iam using recuva, and some files are recovered fine. but I do not see the most important folder in available list for recovery (i didnt overwrite anything since the formate cause by power outage). any clues why? nibbler_ flintser
[15:54] <zefuros> jhutchins_wk: you know about boot problems?
[15:55] <sykop5am> Hi! Sorry for spam, but there is ongoing indiegogo campaign on promising factory building game running on Ubuntu. More info on http://www.indiegogo.com/factorio .
[15:55] <DJones> sykop5am: As you know its spam, don't repost it here
[15:56] <Viliny> Anyone know of a program for ubuntu that allows me to capture images from a webcam at regular intervals?
[15:56] <_raven_> Viliny, motion
[15:56] <Viliny> preferrably simple as i only need it to save images into a folder
[15:57] <zefuros> i need some help, i got windows 8 on my ssd drive and installed ubuntu on my hdd drive with priority ssd>hdd . Now i can only open grub with changing priority to hdd>ssd and i cant boot my windows 8 , it restarts please if someone has the expirience reply
[15:57] <_raven_> Viliny, or ask in #ffmpeg or #libav for an option with image export
[15:57] <yeehaw> zefuros: Dude, I just gave you a clue and you don't even try it. Why do you think other people will help you then?
[15:57] <Viliny> _raven_:  i had motion considered, then i went with zoneminder and that just... frustrated me
[15:58] <Viliny> i'll give it a try, thank you
[16:00] <Ohmage> yeehaw: would the S/N be the activation key as i dont see a clearly labeled windows key on the bottom of lappy or in the docus came with
[16:00] <yeehaw> Ohmage: Possible, is it on a sticker with other windows 8 things?
[16:01] <zefuros> yeehaw: i cant save the file from the post you gave me, and the order you gave me doesnt give me the permissions
[16:01] <Ohmage> its pretty confusing theres a windows 8 logo sticker oon its own on the bottom then a barcode white sticker on the bottom with sn, product n and a barcode
[16:01] <Ohmage> none of it clear at all bloody thing
[16:01] <Ohmage> lol
[16:02] <yeehaw> Ohmage: It's on of those, make a picture? :P
[16:02] <yeehaw> zefuros: What happens when you do gksudo gedit filename (replace filename with the file you are trying to edit)
[16:03] <DocProc> ikonia: hello
[16:03] <DocProc> ikonia: can you please tell me ubuntu ram consumption when idle?
[16:03] <zefuros> yeehaw: you didnt told me to replace the name
[16:04] <Ohmage> ah iv found a forum post to windows and a guy has said that the newer ones dont have the sticker on lol
[16:04] <yeehaw> zefuros: True, but because I said 'filename', I assumed you would replace it. My bad
[16:04] <Ohmage> to stop illegal copies...
[16:04] <Ohmage> pure joke
[16:04] <yeehaw> Ohmage: That does not make sense lol
[16:04] <Guest85245> how to connect counter strike on wireless help me
[16:05] <yeehaw> Ohmage: Maybe microsoft can tell you?
[16:05] <Guest85245> static ip
[16:05] <Guest85245> plz help me
[16:05] <zefuros> yeehaw: its ok if i was asking for assist on windows such explaination wouldnt be needed but as far i know nothing about ubuntu i would please to be this specific with me  :D
[16:05] <Ohmage> windows.... make sense.... ever?
[16:05] <Guest85245> ??
[16:05] <yeehaw> zefuros: Noted :P
[16:06] <Guest85245> ??
[16:06] <Guest85245> lan gaming on ubunu
[16:06] <Guest85245> ubuntu
[16:06] <phanku> Hey I have a, hopefully easy question.  I am concerned about something.  Each time I ssh into my ubuntu headless server I see a http connection (looks like out going) to eight.t0x.net  (46.105.61.149).  Should I be worried?
[16:06] <mhsbec> Can anybody tell where I can download sakis3g from?
[16:06] <zefuros> yeehaw: ok i typed the command and im in a text editor but it doesnt show up any of the comments the real file had should i replace the filename with the directory instead?
[16:07] <yeehaw> Ohmage: http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/30363-Windows-8-WDP-Product-Key-Viewer
[16:07] <phanku> I cannot find any real information on that t0x.net server.
[16:08] <zefuros> yeehaw: can you resend me the link seems i lost it within the tabs i close and cant find it in history
[16:08] <tad-pole> Anyone familiar with bumblebee?
[16:09] <Physicist> To burn an image in a cd, I have to extract the files or burn the iso?
[16:09] <STMelon> night all
[16:09] <zefuros> yeehaw: never mind i found it but the command you told me will i be able to replace 40_custom
[16:09] <tad-pole> Physicist Burn the iso
[16:09] <yeehaw> zefuros: try it like this. Open up a terminal with ctrl + alt + T, and run this gksudo gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[16:09] <tad-pole> physicist With a burning application.
[16:09] <Physicist> tad-pole, I did that and does not work!
[16:09] <tad-pole> physicist Check to see if your ISO is whole and intact
[16:10] <phanku> l
[16:10] <Physicist> tad-pole, how?
[16:10] <yeehaw> Physicist: What OS are you on?
[16:10] <tad-pole> physicist http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-check-md5-hash/2008/05/06
[16:11] <zefuros> yeehaw: yes! now its correct thanks i will follow the post steps and let you know
[16:11] <Physicist> I did the download by torrent. I want to install in an old ZP.
[16:11] <yeehaw> zefuros: Good luck
[16:11] <BluesKaj> phanku, it appears to be an ISP in France , are you using a DNS server ?
[16:11] <Physicist> XP"
[16:11] <BluesKaj> or IP inb France rather
[16:11] <phanku> Not that I am aware of..
[16:12] <phanku> Yea I know it is in France.  I have done all I can to find out about the server before coming here.
[16:12] <yeehaw> Physicist: Use http://www.imgburn.com/
[16:12] <phanku> www.t0x.net
[16:12] <Physicist> yeehaw.. i am using Ubuntu 12.04.
[16:12] <phanku> looks very.. well
[16:12] <phanku> yea suspecious.
[16:13] <yeehaw> Physicist: Then use Brasero
[16:13] <Hexi> anyone know if this openssl vulnerability has or will be addressed for 12.04 LTS?  http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20130205.txt
[16:13] <arvendu> what the heck issue with my os :( python is talking huge cpu load and ram use
[16:13] <arvendu> :(
[16:13] <bnason> The backup user is specifically for local system backup data right? I'm wanting to backup a remote web server, should I use that account or create a new one?
[16:13] <BluesKaj> phanku, http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/eight.t0x.net
[16:13] <arvendu> i am not using any python program
[16:13] <mhsbec> Please please tell me where I can download sakis3g from?
[16:13] <yeehaw> arvendu: Show the process please?
[16:14] <Halite> wine is yummy
[16:14] <arvendu> how yeehaw
[16:14] <phanku> BluesKaj I have been there and done that. I am trying to figure out if it is normal behavior or somethign else, such as my server got hacked.
[16:15] <yeehaw> arvendu: ps auxf | grep python
[16:15] <BluesKaj> phanku, yes it's worrisome , seems others are asking the same question on google
[16:16] <Halite> Software Updater just crashed
[16:16] <zefuros> yeehaw: i followed the steps although i think it wasnt the same with my problem anyway im rebooting and coming back to let you know
[16:16] <phanku> BluesKaj, wow you managed to find more than I could.  I have been searching for this information on google left and right with no effect.
[16:16] <arvendu> http://pastebin.com/MsKATxpZ yeehaw
[16:16] <yeehaw> phanku: Why do you think you are being hacked?
[16:16] <Peyam> Hi
[16:16] <ikonia> DocProc: huh ? did you want me ?
[16:16] <phanku> Each time I log into my ssh account I see a http connection to eight.t0x.net
[16:16] <Peyam> I need a good conky that shows my temperature and all processor cores.. please someone help me
[16:17] <yeehaw> phanku: That's weird, any weird processes running?
[16:17] <Halite> Authenication is required for nearly everything even remotely sudo-related
[16:17] <phanku> Nothing that really pops out of me.
[16:17] <phanku> err at me
[16:17] <yeehaw> arvendu: Can you use paste.ubuntu.com ?
[16:18] <OerHeks> Peyam, 2000+ pages with conky scripts > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=1106
[16:18] <arvendu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1636749/ yeehaw
[16:19] <Peyam> OerHeks: wtf..
[16:19] <Physicist_> yehaw: I did with brasero and did not work. I have to extract the content and burn ass file or the brute image downloaded?
[16:19] <zefuros> yeehaw: no luck again when i try to boot windows 8 it restarts
[16:19] <yeehaw> Physicist_: You can burn the iso with brasero, try redownloading with brasero
[16:20] <tad-pole> mhsbec http://www.trixarian.net/downloads/sakis3g-s4.tazpkg
[16:20] <sharp15> where do i find the checksums for the cd ISOs (MD5, SHA1, ...?)?
[16:20] <Ohmage> yeehaw: turns out windows "injects an oem" key into the bios, how rude
[16:20] <tad-pole> Darn he left....
[16:20] <IdleOne> !md5 | sharp15
[16:20] <arvendu> yeehaw did u check it ?
[16:20] <phanku> BluesKaj, can you provide that google link to me?
[16:20] <yeehaw> arvendu: Are you searching anything? With the ubuntu search tool? How do you know python is causing the system load?
[16:21] <zykotick9> !md5sums | sharp15
[16:21] <IdleOne> sharp15: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes specifically
[16:21] <yeehaw> Ohmage: Did you see my link to the tool?
[16:21] <Halite> !help
[16:21] <zefuros> yeehaw: you think reinstalling ubuntu on efi mode could solve the problem?
[16:21] <Ohmage> ah no missed it
[16:21] <yeehaw> zefuros: That sucks man. any error?
[16:21] <Ohmage> ill scroll
[16:21] <sharp15> IdleOne: thanks.
[16:21] <Halite> !help @ ubottu
[16:21] <arvendu> everything is closed only xchat and pidgin is open
[16:21] <yeehaw> zefuros: It's worth a try
[16:21] <Ciko> #ubuntu-de
[16:21] <Physicist_> yehaw: I did the download with Bit toorent client. And was complete when I burned.
[16:21] <Halite> !patience ubottu
[16:22] <zefuros> yeehaw: im pretty sure it shows an error before the restart but it shows it in a blink
[16:22] <Ohmage> got the link nice one
[16:22] <Ohmage> i shall investigate
[16:22] <Halite> @#@~@~@~@
[16:22] <Halite> Investigate what
[16:22] <Physicist_> !patience
[16:22] <zefuros> yeehaw: can you just clear something for me please?
[16:22] <yeehaw> arvendu: Run the command 'top' and then pres ctrl-c and post the output
[16:23] <yeehaw> zefuros: If you can get that error, we might be able too fix it
[16:23] <zefuros> yeehaw: is it sure that my windows 8 is installed in efi mode?
[16:23] <tgm4883> yeehaw, 'top -n 1' runs top with one interation then quits
[16:23] <yeehaw> tgm4883: I'm getting smarter everyday :-)
[16:24] <tgm4883> yeehaw, and with that, you can pipe it to pastbinit
[16:24] <tgm4883> err, pastebinit
[16:24] <DocProc> ikonia: yes i cant send to channel and i wonder how much ram is used by ubuntu when idle.
[16:24] <yeehaw> zefuros: Did you buy it preinstalled?
[16:24] <zefuros> yeehaw: if its sure windows 8  64bit installs in EFI mode i read a post that says ubuntu must also be installed in EFI mode.
[16:24] <Kane274> Should I turn PAM authentication off when I use keys to sign onto my server ? (I don't really know what PAM is)
[16:24] <Physicist_> yeehaw: I did the download with Bit torrent client. And was complete when I burned.
[16:24] <bekks> Kane274: Then dont touch that setting :)
[16:25] <yeehaw> tgm4883: Physicist_ Did you check the md5 hash?
[16:25] <zefuros> yeahaw:  nope i installed windows 7 64bit and then updated to windows 8 with software so i cant run a cd installation for windows 8 since i have only update licence
[16:25] <Kane274> bekks: As in leave it on it's no security issue :) ?
[16:25] <ikonia> DocProc: you're talking in the channel now
[16:25] <Physicist_> NO SUCH FILE OR DIRECTORY..
[16:25] <yeehaw> zefuros: What is your motherboard?
[16:25] <arvendu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1636758/
[16:25] <bekks> Kane274: Correct.
[16:25] <tgm4883> yeehaw, torrents check the md5hash for you
[16:25] <tgm4883> providing the source is correct
[16:25] <DocProc> Hello
[16:25] <z3br0id3> ...
[16:25] <DocProc> hey how much ram does ubuntu use when idle?
[16:25] <z3br0id3> .
[16:25] <Kane274> bekks: Thanks for your info :)
[16:26] <bekks> DocProc: All it can get - thats what RAM is for.
[16:26] <ikonia> DocProc: depends on many things, plus linux uses ram for cache too
[16:26] <tgm4883> yeehaw, still need to check the burned cd though
[16:26] <tad-pole> DocPro What version? running what software? :P
[16:26] <zefuros> yeehaw: gigabyte h61m
[16:26] <tad-pole> docpro You can google this question and get lots of answers....
[16:26] <yeehaw> zwamkat: It has EFI, so probably. Normally you can see in the efi bios if you boot legacy or efi
[16:27] <yeehaw> zefuros: It has EFI, so probably. Normally you can see in the efi bios  │ al__
[16:27] <yeehaw>                          | if you boot legacy or efi
[16:27] <Halite> err
[16:27] <yeehaw> arvendu: How do you know it is running slow?
[16:28] <zwamkat> yeehaw: Typo?
[16:28] <yeehaw> zwamkat: Yes, sorry
[16:28] <zwamkat> :-)
[16:28] <zwamkat> yeehaw: np
[16:29] <zefuros> yeehaw: i will reinstall ubuntu on efi mode it will take a while hope i will find you here after that
[16:30] <rexwin_> want to backup the entire drive to usb. what would be the command?
[16:30] <X-Seti> I have a strange problem with Mate installed on ubuntu 12.10, Every window that is called covers the whole screen. I have to move then resize every window to see the rest of the desktop.
[16:30] <Janeth> hi! I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu but, after the installation (conserving /home and other OS partitions) grub can't load ("error: file nor found / entering rescue mode... / grub rescue"). I try entering again the live USB in order to install boot manager and reinstall grub, but it won't enter the live USB any more (it stays in the "ACER" very first screen). Don't know what to do, someone can rescue me?
[16:31] <jhutchins_wk> !fixgrub
[16:31] <tad-pole> Janeth: Hit f2 or whatever gets you to your BIOS   boot from your usb/cd/dvd  into live or rescue    apt-get boot-repair and run boot-repair
[16:32] <krazyx> Hey, I'm trying to setup my ubuntu server to run as static IP, I did all the correct settings and it was working for like 10 seconds(the internet that is) then it just stopped and can't ping anything via the server but I can ping lan
[16:32] <Janeth> jhutchins_wk, but it's very strange, it was not after installing windows but ubuntu itself...
[16:32] <jhutchins_wk> Janeth: grub probably has the wrong disk set for /boot or root.  Disc ID's can change after installation.  Use a UUID to avoid that problem.
[16:32] <yeehaw> krazyx: Please post the contents of /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/network/interfaces to paste.ubuntu.com
[16:33] <rexwin_> howto login as root in ubuntu
[16:33] <jhutchins_wk> !root
[16:33] <perlhelp> Hello?
[16:33] <yeehaw> krazyx: cat /etc/resolv.conf /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit
[16:34] <zykotick9> !noroot | rexwin_
[16:34] <perlhelp> Is there a modertaor here?
[16:34] <perlhelp> Anybody know DrF or aperion?
[16:34]  * tgm4883 wonders what perlhelp needs
[16:34] <rexwin_> !wfm
[16:34] <krazyx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1636771/
[16:35] <perlhelp> tgm4883: Are you a moderator?
[16:35] <tgm4883> perlhelp, no
[16:35] <perlhelp> Do you know one?
[16:35] <tonsofpcs> jhutchins_wk and zykotick9, via ubottu: that's bull.  Just because you shouldn't in general doesn't mean there's specific use cases where it makes sense.
[16:35] <tgm4883> yes
[16:35] <xangua> perlhelp: if you don't have an ubuntu support issue you can just keep quiet :)
[16:35] <yeehaw> krazyx: That looks good, can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[16:36] <zykotick9> tonsofpcs: actually, you're wrong.  if you use ubuntu, you should learn to use it as designed...
[16:36] <perlhelp> I was banned from the perlroom yesterdy. I want to know when the ban ends.
[16:36] <tgm4883> perlhelp, is there an issue in another Ubuntu channel that needs a moderators attention?
[16:36] <Janeth> tad-pole: i entered bios before and I have USB HDD, USB FDD and USB CDROM right before my internal hard drive. But (and I have the liveUSB in its port) it doesnt enter, I can't pass from the ACER screen. I've noticed this before, a live USB is only recognized the very first time, later on, it won't load any more
[16:36] <krazyx> 100% packet loss on 8.8.8.8
[16:36] <tgm4883> perlhelp, ah, you want #ubuntu-mods
[16:36] <tgm4883> perlhelp, I think that is the channel anyway
[16:36] <zykotick9> perlhelp: you might want to try #freenode, i doubt ubuntu-mods can help.
[16:36] <yeehaw> krazyx: What's the output of ifconfig ?
[16:37] <krazyx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1636775/
[16:37] <DJones> perlhelp: The ubuntu ops only deal with bans in the ubuntu channels, if you were banned in a perl channel, you need to contact the channel ops
[16:37] <perlhelp> Thanks!
[16:37] <Lynxx> anyone know how i can install the trinity desktop environemnt on ubuntu 12.10
[16:37] <yeehaw> krazyx: And you can ping your gateway? 192.168.1.1?
[16:38] <krazyx> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.549 ms
[16:38] <yeehaw> krazyx: Do you know for certain that the internet is working from that gateway?
[16:38] <krazyx> yeah, I'm on it now
[16:38] <elisa87> Hi, Do you know why I am receiving the following error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1636776/
[16:38] <krazyx> not via the server but on my desktop
[16:38] <yeehaw> krazyx: any crazy routes ?
[16:38] <elisa87> ** (gedit:16712): WARNING **: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=dde955f0448b5cd8c9acf42a00000581 --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: No protocol specified\nNo protocol specified\n
[16:38] <boxysean> hi there. i'm dual booting os x and ubuntu 12.04 on my mbp. booting ubuntu hangs when i select the default grub option, but i'm able to complete the boot when i go through the grub recovery mode option. my syslog doesn't have any info about the failed boot -- any ideas how i can get the failed boot log to see what's the issue?
[16:39] <krazyx> just a normal actiontech router from verizon so no
[16:39] <tgm4883> krazyx, 'route | pastebinit'
[16:39] <OerHeks> Lynxx, trinity gives instructions on their wiki, http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/UbuntuBinaryInstallation
[16:39] <yeehaw> tgm4883: thanks :p
[16:40] <tgm4883> yeehaw, I'm just fighting CS6, nothing better to do than help :)
[16:40] <krazyx> hm that's weird http://paste.ubuntu.com/1636781/
[16:40] <Lynxx> OerHeks, it gives instructions for 12.04, will it still work on 12.10?
[16:40] <krazyx> showing as wireless?
[16:40] <rickard> I am new in ubuntu or linux at all does it exist any windows to linux converter to ubuntu? i have tried to install winef but it dident install
[16:41] <Halite> err
[16:41] <tgm4883> krazyx, that is probably OK, can you do 'route -n | pastebinit'
[16:41] <tgm4883> krazyx, that will not resolve names with the -n flag
[16:41] <krazyx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1636785/
[16:41] <OerHeks> Lynxx, i don't know if 12.10 is supported, wiki gives no clue
[16:41] <Lynxx> ok OerHeks  guess i'll have to figure it out
[16:41] <Lynxx> whats the best way to install in such a way that i can remove the files if it doesnt work?
[16:42] <Lynxx> apt-get remove?
[16:42] <yeehaw> krazyx: Looks good, well then this a weird problem
[16:42] <krazyx> yeah i know :(
[16:42] <krazyx> even set the ip to dmz for the server and still nothing
[16:42] <OerHeks> Lynxx, ppa-purge i guess, but try to add those ppa's first, and see if it gives a installation-candidate
[16:42] <yeehaw> krazyx: Did you try a reboot
[16:42] <krazyx> yup
[16:43] <krazyx> several times lol
[16:43] <Lynxx> oh okay it'll let me knwo that?
[16:43] <rickard> I am new in ubuntu or linux at all does it exist any windows to linux converter to ubuntu? i have tried to install winef but it dident install
[16:43] <tgm4883> krazyx, are you on the console of this machine or are you in remotely though a network connection?
[16:43] <electron_> how do i get all features of gnome3 and gnome shell to work on ubuntu12.04
[16:43] <yeehaw> krazyx: And if you put it back to dhcp?
[16:43] <krazyx> both, via putty and it's right next to me
[16:43] <krazyx> it was working fine on dhcp
[16:43] <yeehaw> krazyx: Is it wireless?
[16:43] <krazyx> no
[16:43] <OerHeks> Lynxx, sure, if you add it and try " sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-desktop-trinity " it will install or an error will pop up
[16:43] <krazyx> there's a wireless adapter but it's connected via lan
[16:44] <tgm4883> krazyx, so doing a 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' and seeing if the internet worked for 10 seconds afterward would be easy to do?
[16:44] <yeehaw> krazyx: What happens if you disable the wireless adapter?
[16:44] <krazyx> i dont think it's enabled i tried that ifdown thing and didnt show anything for the adapter
[16:45] <krazyx> and I already tried the restart command but did it again and still nada
[16:45] <yeehaw> krazyx: Is the ip you are giving to the server in the accepted range?
[16:45] <krazyx> yup
[16:45] <Lynxx> ok it tells me now malformed line after i added to the sources list
[16:45] <Lynxx> hmm
[16:45] <krazyx> up to 255 my router allows
[16:46] <tgm4883> krazyx, how about this. can you switch it back to DHCP, get it working, then pastebin the outputs of 'route' and 'ifconfig'
[16:46] <krazyx> k
[16:46] <mjuszczak> I installed wine for something which installed msfonts corefonts in the process.  Now fonts in firefox look awkward.  Is there a way to keep those fonts installed so wine is happy but not have linux applications use them, especially firefox?
[16:46] <rickard> join #ubuntu
[16:46] <tgm4883> bah, Adobe, y u break your own software installation methods via updates
[16:47] <jhutchins_wk> rickard: What are you trying to do?
[16:47] <yeehaw> mjuszczak: Are you sure you are not using Windows Firefox?
[16:47] <mjuszczak> yeehaw: positive
[16:47] <jhutchins_wk> mjuszczak: You can select the default fonts for various styles in firefox.
[16:48] <mjuszczak> but if I try to apt-get purge ttf-mscorefonts-installer, it says it's going to remove wine
[16:48] <rickard> i am trying to learn this chat thing and ask if there is a way to use programs from windows to linux
[16:48] <tgm4883> !wine | rickard
[16:48] <yeehaw> rickard: You are already in the ubuntu channel :-)
[16:48] <jhutchins_wk> rickard: There are some ways to do that with some programs, but it is usually better to seek out a native linux solution to what you're trying to do.
[16:48] <rickard> i alredy tried that onte it gives me an error
[16:48] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: +1
[16:48] <yeehaw> rickard: Which error?
[16:49] <rickard> one sec
[16:49] <electron_> has anybody used gnome3 on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[16:49] <mjuszczak> jhutchins_wk: okay.  So there's no way to tell firefox to just ignore what ttf-mscorefonts-installer did?
[16:49] <xangua> electron_: ubuntu 12.04 comes with gnome3.4
[16:49] <tgm4883> electron_, you likely meant to ask about gnome-shell
[16:49] <electron_> xabgua:  i installed the gnome shell
[16:50] <squig> electron_, ifs thats on 12.04 by default I have and im using it now, though im in failsafe
[16:50] <jhutchins_wk> mjuszczak: Firefox is selecting the MS fonts first because it's designed to run on MS systems.  You have to tell it to choose different fonts.
[16:50] <electron_> yes i meant the gnome shell
[16:50] <squig> electron_, I ran away screaming
[16:50] <electron_> but im not getting all the features of the gnome shell
[16:50] <krazyx> ok, this is weird I put it back to DHCP and it reset the ip to 192.168.1.5 and now it's not working either
[16:50] <rickard> something like "this error can occur becouse another nessesary file is missing"
[16:51] <krazyx> I also tried to do host google.com and it came up with google.com has address 74.125.228.99 so it is able to resolve
[16:51] <yeehaw> krazyx: Even with dhcp? Did you disable dmz and all the other things in the router?
[16:51] <jhutchins_wk> rickard: Which happened when you did what?
[16:51] <tgm4883> krazyx, what was the ip address you had statically assigned?
[16:51] <krazyx> yee: it went to another ip so yeah the dmz aint working for it now
[16:51] <jhutchins_wk> rickard: If you'll tell us what you're really trying to do, we might be able to help you do it without windows.
[16:51] <krazyx> 192.168.1.50 was the one it was assigned for, now it's at 192.168.1.5 for dhcp
[16:51] <electron_> squig, does the message tray work for you in gnome-sheell?
[16:52] <mjuszczak> jhutchins_wk: hmmm, okay.  So maybe I should uninstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer, see what fonts firefox is choosing, write them down, reinstall, then go back in and select?
[16:52] <tgm4883> krazyx, are you able to 'ping 192.168.1.50' ?
[16:52] <rickard> ok i will try again
[16:52] <krazyx> No, i'm not able to ping the .50
[16:52] <squig> electron_, sorry, I tried to use it and then gave up and went back to the failsafe
[16:52] <krazyx> From 192.168.1.5 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable
[16:52] <rickard> first i go to the programcenter and search for wine
[16:52] <yeehaw> krazyx: Can you ping the google DNS server?
[16:52] <krazyx> negative on that yee
[16:53] <rickard> then i take the "config wine" name and try to install
[16:53] <jhutchins_wk> mjuszczak: That would be one approach.  I think removing the installer might not remove the fonts that it installed though.
[16:53] <rickard> then the error occours
[16:54] <mjuszczak> the "purge" did it.  But the settings in firefox still look the same.  hrm
[16:54] <krazyx> I'm still able to ping 192.168.1.1 which is the router
[16:55] <yeehaw> krazyx: Do you have any other switches or routers between the gateway and your server?
[16:55] <rickard> does someone know a tutorial video or something that shows how to install wine correctrly?
[16:55] <Lynxx> okay that didnt work
[16:55] <krazyx> no, just the router and it's directly connected to it
[16:55] <Lynxx> next q ... which is better to install xfce or xubuntu
[16:55] <tgm4883> rickard, I've always done it via command line "apt-get install wine"
[16:55] <tad-pole> rickard: apt-get install wine ?
[16:55] <Lynxx> because i know both are available for download
[16:55] <yeehaw> krazyx: And you desktop is too?
[16:55] <krazyx> correct
[16:55]  * tad-pole tips his hat to tgm4883
[16:55] <krazyx> both connected to the router
[16:56] <yeehaw> krazyx: This doesn't make any sense
[16:56] <krazyx> i know im going friggin crazy
[16:56] <rickard> i can try i am not so famillar with the terminal yet
[16:56] <krazyx> when i did a fresh install of ubuntu server it worked flawless
[16:56] <tgm4883> Lynxx, that would depend on what your end goal is
[16:56] <krazyx> but once I change any settings it goes kaploo
[16:56] <yeehaw> krazyx: Can you boot a liveusb and see if your internet works there? And do you see anything in the logfiles?
[16:56] <tad-pole> rickard: Nothing to be familiar with, just type "sudo apt-get install wine"
[16:56] <krazyx> i'll boot into that now hold on
[16:56] <tad-pole> and hit enter
[16:56] <anonymousraptr> i have a 3tb hard drive i store movies and music on that is formatted for mac os x. will i be able to plug it into my ubuntu machine and transfer files from the drive to ubuntu?
[16:57] <Lynxx> a lightweight and working desktop environment to use i guess... i heard xubuntu would put extra copies of applications in the menu
[16:57] <krazyx> where are the logfiles located at?
[16:57] <tgm4883> Lynxx, it will, because it will download everything that comes with Xubuntu. If you just want XFCE, then just install XFCE
[16:57] <tad-pole> krazyx: google "programname logfile location" :P
[16:57] <zykotick9> Lynxx: if you install the xfce4 (i believe) package, it won't add the additional xubuntu stuff
[16:57] <tgm4883> Lynxx, if you want a Xubuntu desktop, then install Xubuntu
[16:57] <xangua> anonymousraptr: define formatted :) wich format¿ ntfs is fine to just share files
[16:58] <rickard> ok but now i have tried that to and it sends me an error translated via google "The following packages have dependencies that can not be satisfied:
[16:58] <rickard>   wine: Depends: wine1.4 but it will not be installed
[16:58] <rickard> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packa"
[16:58] <Lynxx> withtout attemting to sound like a complete idiot and noob..
[16:58] <X-Seti> Hello, I am running ubuntu 12.10 with Mate. the problem I am having is every window seems to open on full screen, I have to click the actively bar for the window and move / resize my way out. Nothing in compiz fusion is ticked. I cant work out what is doing this.. Anyone.
[16:58] <raptr> its format to mac osx extended journaled format
[16:58] <Lynxx> whats the difference between xfce4 and xubuntu ... apperance wise
[16:58] <tad-pole> rickard: sudo apt-get update   then redo last command
[16:58] <zykotick9> Lynxx: nothing.  xubuntu uses xfce4 and a buch of other stuff...
[16:58] <bekks> Lynxx: No difference.
[16:58] <NastyNaz> I have screen setup so that it has three 'screens' horizontally in my terminal. Is there any way to detach from this 'setup' and re-attach to it? If I try ctrl-a,ctrl-d it only reattaches to the first screen
[16:58] <xangua> !mint | X-Seti mate stuff is mint stuff :)
[16:58] <tgm4883> rickard, can you tell us what it's trying to do if you do a 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[16:59] <Lynxx> okay
[16:59] <tgm4883> tad-pole, nah, it's broken, he needs a fix
[16:59] <zykotick9> NastyNaz: no.  i'd strongly suggest to migrate to tmux (it has that ability)
[16:59] <squig> join #linuxmint-help
[16:59] <squig> oops :/
[16:59] <NastyNaz> zykotick9: wow tmux looks much better, thanks
[17:00] <yeehaw> krazyx: /var/log/
[17:00] <X-Seti> Ok, thanks,
[17:00] <krazyx> yeah, i did nothing bad in there that i could notice
[17:00] <krazyx> booting the livecd atm
[17:00] <yeehaw> krazyx: I got to go, but I will be back in an hour.
[17:00] <tad-pole> tgm4883: Not questioning you, just trying to clarifiy for my self, it says broken packages - so.. apt-get -f ? then update?
[17:00] <yeehaw> krazyx: If your still here then I will ping you :P
[17:00] <krazyx> ok ty
[17:01] <tgm4883> tad-pole, not sure an update is necessary at all, although it wouldn't hurt. We do need to see what it's trying to do to fix the broken packages though
[17:01] <Physicist> Guys, If I Install ubuntu with the windows installer, can I erase the windows later with no problem?
[17:01] <rickard> ok after that -f install thing "Reading package lists ... Ready
[17:01] <rickard> Building dependency tree
[17:01] <rickard> Reading state information ... Ready
[17:01] <rickard> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer necessary:
[17:01] <rickard>    lib32asound2 lib32gcc1 lib32nss-mdns lib32z1 libc6-i386 libjpeg62
[17:01] <FloodBot1> rickard: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:01] <rickard>    linux-headers-3.5.0-17 linux-headers-3.5.0-17-generic
[17:01] <tgm4883> hmm
[17:01] <rickard> oh sorry ok
[17:02] <tgm4883> I feel that is partially my fault for forgetting to tell you pastebin
[17:02] <Lynxx> thx all
[17:02] <tgm4883> !pastebin | rickard
[17:02] <Physicist> Guys, If I Install ubuntu with the windows installer, can I erase the windows later with no problem?
[17:03] <tad-pole> rickard: After apt-get -f    do the apt-get update    then apt-get install
[17:03] <xangua> Physicist: no
[17:03] <tgm4883> Physicist, yes, I believe you can do it via 'add/remove programs'
[17:03] <IdleOne> Physicist: you mean using the Wubi installed?
[17:03] <tgm4883> xangua, he's asking about wubi
[17:03] <tgm4883> oh wait
[17:03] <xangua> tgm4883:  can I erase the windows later with no problem?
[17:04] <tgm4883> Physicist, xangua I misread the question :(
[17:04]  * tgm4883 hangs head in shame
[17:04] <zykotick9> tad-pole: you need "apt-get -f install" for it to do anything, other then give you the command summary ;)  rickard
[17:04]  * tad-pole hangs head in shame as well. 
[17:04] <tad-pole> :P
[17:05] <Physicist> I want to install ubuntu and delete windows. My old windows do not boot with cd. Because that thw wubi.
[17:05] <mjuszczak> looks like there's no easy way to tell firefox to ignore those fonts.  I guess I'll make my wine startup script apt-get install and then purge those fonts... kind of awkward :-/
[17:05] <bekks> Physicist: Then you cant replace anything. Wubi requires a running Windows.
[17:05] <tgm4883> Physicist, did you check the boot order in your bios?
[17:06] <tgm4883> bekks, does it really? I thought it was just a file on the windows filesystem that you could boot to
[17:06] <Physicist> tgm4883, yes. I already configured BIOS but dont start.
[17:06] <bekks> tgm4883: It requires a full blown windows, along with a working windows bootloader.
[17:07] <rickard> is apt-get -f install a command or should it be more? becouse it gives me an error
[17:07] <tgm4883> bekks, but surely not a running windows? otherwise what is the point over a VM?
[17:07] <Physicist> with gparted on ubuntu, Can I delete windows, without have to configure kernel?
[17:07] <bekks> tgm4883: Of course a running windows.
[17:07] <tgm4883> rickard, please pastebin the error?
[17:07] <bekks> tgm4883: Windows handles all the filesystem access, device access, etc.
[17:08] <tad-pole> rickard: It has to be run as root  so the whole command is "sudo apt-get -f install"
[17:08] <zykotick9> tgm4883: i'd say a VM is actually a better option then wubi... personal opinion only.
[17:08] <tad-pole> sorry, Ive been up for a very long time. :/
[17:08] <elisa87> What should I do when receiving this in Ubuntu when "sudo gedit" fails ?
[17:08] <SonikkuAmerica2> rickard: The -f switch is for fixing broken or unmet dependencies
[17:08] <bekks> elisa87: You should use gksu gedit instead.
[17:08] <elisa87> What should I do when receiving this in Ubuntu when "sudo gedit" fails ? X11 initialization failed
[17:08] <zykotick9> !gksudo | elisa87
[17:09] <Physicist> tgm4883, with gparted on ubuntu, Can I delete windows, without have to configure kernel?
[17:09] <SonikkuAmerica2> (I do wonder why gksudo and not "gtksudo")
[17:09] <tgm4883> zykotick9, bekks wikipedia seems to disagree on needing windows running when using linux via wubi
[17:09] <tad-pole> Physicist: Can you make a bootable USB?
[17:09] <zykotick9> elisa87: is this through ssh or on virtual console?  is Xorg running?
[17:09] <Gilbert32> hello there
[17:09] <elisa87> bekks + zykotick9 (gksudo:21251): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[17:09] <elisa87>  
[17:10] <elisa87> I am not using Ubuntu 12.04
[17:10] <zykotick9> elisa87: are you in Xorg when running that?
[17:10] <bekks> elisa87: So which Ubuntu do you use?
[17:10] <SonikkuAmerica2> elisa87: It doesn't look like you have an X server running.
[17:10] <Gilbert32> each time i start ubuntu my chances of getting it booting correctly are 1/5 (stuck in kernel) any known reason?
[17:10] <elisa87> I am not sure ...I am using terminal ...what is Xorg?
[17:10] <rickard> does that pastbin ubuntu web thing send the text directly or how does that work?
[17:10] <elisa87> root@dfyhs5l1:~# gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[17:10] <elisa87> No protocol specified
[17:10] <zykotick9> elisa87: you need a terminal editor then!  "sudo nano /path/to/file"
[17:10] <tad-pole> Gilbert32: You have to clarifiy your error.
[17:10] <tgm4883> rickard, you need to give us the link
[17:10] <Physicist> tad-pole, In the computer that I want install, do not exist this possibilite because is old!
[17:10] <SARC> I am trying to figure out what exactly my NIC interrupts are.  When I look at /proc/interrupts, I see 8 entries for eth1, are these 8 separate buffers?  When I look at them, the first entry is much higher than the other 7.  Can someone please explain this for me?
[17:11] <rickard> oh http://paste.ubuntu.com/1636859/
[17:11] <elisa87> but I want to run the gedit for sure! How can I make it run?
[17:11] <bekks> tgm4883: The wikipedia article doesnt say that you dont need a windows.
[17:11] <khalid> test
[17:11] <tad-pole> rickard: It has to be run as root  so the whole command is "sudo apt-get -f install"
[17:11] <tgm4883> rickard, you need to use sudo
[17:11] <tonsofpcs> zykotick9: no, ubuntu is a tool.  It doesn't dictate my needs.  I dictate my needs.
[17:11] <elisa87> zykotick9:  why am I receiving No protocol specified ?
[17:11] <zykotick9> elisa87: gedit requires a running GUI (which is xorg)
[17:11] <Gilbert32> the computer starts booting, and sometimes hangs in terminal-like environment. sometimes nothing on the screen, sometimes stuff related to the network interface
[17:11] <tonsofpcs> Those who don't understand the user/tool relationship are clearly the latter.
[17:11] <Mercutio150> Can anyone suggest a starting place? I am looking to use my tablet as a touchscreen for my desktop
[17:11] <elisa87> zykotick9: how can I make it use Xorg>?
[17:12] <tgm4883> bekks, it adds a entry to the windows bootloader to load linux. Which surely means that you don't need to be running windows when in the Linux install
[17:12] <zykotick9> tonsofpcs: lol.  incorrect, as ubuntu uses lots of non-free software - canonical is in control, not you.
[17:12] <Gilbert32> and audio stuff
[17:12] <zykotick9> elisa87: when you say "terminal" are you in a GUI enviornment (with mouse pointer, etc)?
[17:12] <Physicist> tad-pole, In the computer that I want install, do not exist this possibilite because is old!
[17:12] <bekks> tgm4883: Then please elaborate on how to get a working windows bootloader without a working windows?
[17:12] <Gilbert32> no no
[17:13] <bekks> tgm4883: Errm, thats offtopic in here, I guess.
[17:13] <Gilbert32> probably still kernel. alt shift f1 through f6 does nothing
[17:13] <tgm4883> bekks, that isn't at all what I said, but to answer your questions, install Windows, then delete C:\Windows
[17:13] <rickard> now i dont thing i got errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/1636871/
[17:14] <xangua> tgm4883: uninstall windows...and uninstall wubi/ubuntu in windows :) win
[17:14] <xangua> err...i mean fail
[17:14] <Physicist> dr_willis?
[17:14] <tgm4883> bekks, you need a working windows install to install ubuntu via wubi. What you said made it sound like you need a running (running != working) windows
[17:14] <rickard> how should i now install wine correctly step by step? any vids of tutorials?
[17:14] <elisa87> zykotick9:  yes I have mouse pointer
[17:15] <tad-pole> rickard: Please try "sudo apt-get install wine"    and pastebin the whole thing like you just did with the last one.
[17:15] <rickard> ok
[17:15] <Gilbert32> oh forgot to mention that i can't type anything (i Can but it does nothing)
[17:15] <tgm4883> xangua, Ubuntu wubi shouldn't be installed in C:\Windows, it should be in 'C:\Program Files'. That would be a serious fail
[17:15] <Physicist> Anybody can help me?
[17:15] <zykotick9> elisa87: and are you using ssh to access a different machine?
[17:15] <elisa87> no no SSH!
[17:15] <Mercutio150> Can someone suggest a channel for me?
[17:15] <tgm4883> Mercutio150, NBC
[17:16] <zykotick9> elisa87: so, from a terminal, does "gksudo xeyes" work?
[17:16] <Mercutio150> I am looking to turn my tablet into an extention of my monitor
[17:16] <Mercutio150> so that I can use the touchsreen
[17:16] <tad-pole> physicist: tgm4883,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/161335/how-do-i-remove-windows-after-installing-ubuntu-12-04-via-wubi
[17:16] <rickard> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1636885/
[17:16] <tgm4883> tad-pole, that isn't what I was saying at all
[17:16] <Mercutio150> is there is tablet, or windows 8 channel?
[17:17] <tgm4883> hmm
[17:17] <Physicist> tad-pole, thank you.
[17:17] <bean_> !alis | Mercutio150
[17:17] <tgm4883> tad-pole, rickard ok, I'm going to go with the apt-get update then apt-get upgrade now, probably pastebin the last commands output
[17:17] <Mercutio150> !alis
[17:18] <bean_> Mercutio150: read the mssage.
[17:18] <tad-pole> rickard: That means he wants you to: "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade" and pastebin results
[17:18] <Mercutio150> I did but that doesn't really help me trying to sort through 12099 channels
[17:18]  * tad-pole raises a questioning eyebrow at tgm :)
[17:18] <Physicist> tad-pole, so I cannot!
[17:18] <bean_> Mercutio150: you use alis to search. Like it says.
[17:18]  * tad-pole nods at physicist  so they say   
[17:18] <Physicist> And now?
[17:19] <rickard> this time i did uderstand that but thanks anyway =D
[17:19] <tgm4883> tad-pole, pm?
[17:19] <Mercutio150> Did yall read my initial question?
[17:19] <tad-pole> Of course.
[17:19] <zykotick9> tad-pole: i'd say, using "apt-get dist-upgrade" makes more sense then "apt-get upgrade" most of the time (same behaviour as the GUI update thing)
[17:19] <bean_> Mercutio150: Yep, something about using your tablet at a 2nd monitor
[17:19] <tgm4883> zykotick9, that isn't a good thing to just tell new users
[17:20] <zykotick9> tgm4883: actually it is
[17:20] <Mercutio150> yes for the touch capabilites, but so far no channels seem to address anything like that
[17:20] <tgm4883> zykotick9, not when it removes gnome
[17:20] <zykotick9> tgm4883: why would it remove gnome? unless you're mixing repos or other non-sense.
[17:20] <rickard> this was alot!   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1636903/
[17:20] <jil> hello
[17:20] <tonsofpcs> zykotick9: I believe sabdfl will tell you that the point of the open source movement is so that tools are not locked into a single use case by a company trying to exert control and that users should be free to use the tools as they see fit and that we should not be a barrier to knowledge to them.  I suppose I could be wrong, but I think he'll read that party line all day long.
[17:20] <bean_> Mercutio150: it looks as though your only option on ubuntu is VNC
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> bean_, Mercutio150: Impossible. What happened to OpenSSH?
[17:21] <Mercutio150> I find it difficult to belive it is impossible
[17:21] <Gilbert32> Mercutio150: I read something about similar thing at xda-developers
[17:22] <tgm4883> rickard, just use 'apt-get upgrade' not apt-get upgrade now
[17:22] <zykotick9> tonsofpcs: perhaps having a dictator at all, is the wrong approach to freedom :p  </OT>  best of luck man.
[17:22] <Mercutio150> Thanks gilbert
[17:22] <tgm4883> zykotick9, some other non-sense like version mismatches and such that you wouldn't do without knowing what you are doing?
[17:22] <tad-pole> rickard: after that retry "sudo apt-get install wine"
[17:22] <Mercutio150> I was thinking there surely must be an app that would pass through the I/O to the desktop
[17:22] <bean_> Mercutio150: unlikely.
[17:23] <zykotick9> tgm4883: you are aware that the GUI updater uses dist-upgrade right?
[17:23] <Mercutio150> Not trying to start shit here, but are yall always so defeatist?
[17:23] <tgm4883> zykotick9, I have a hard time believing the GUI updating is running command line in the background and not interfacing with apt directly
[17:23] <tgm4883> Mercutio150, defeatist?
[17:23] <bean_> Mercutio150: Just realistic is all.
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> zykotick9: In what context? I thought update-manager was its own process, not a subroutine caller
[17:23] <zykotick9> tgm4883: right - but it updates everything.
[17:24] <tad-pole> rickard: Any luck?
[17:24] <tgm4883> zykotick9, it also warns you of partial updates
[17:24] <SonikkuAmerica> !language
[17:24] <rickard> nope
[17:24] <Mercutio150> Yes, I don't know how to do it now, but I promise you this, I find the way
[17:24] <zykotick9> SonikkuAmerica: i'm sure it does, i should have said, the GUI uses the equivalent of dist-upgrade
[17:24] <Mercutio150> I'm not going to give up on it just because it 'might' not be possible
[17:24] <tgm4883> Mercutio150, what if there is no way?
[17:24] <Gilbert32> Mercutio150: here. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-gains-x11-support/
[17:24] <Mercutio150> There has to be a way
[17:24] <Gilbert32> does it help?
[17:25] <jil> What can cause a successive md5sum (on ubuntu image for example) to differt when I repeate it?
[17:25] <zykotick9> tgm4883: in regular use, you shouldn't ever see partial-upgrades
[17:25] <Mercutio150> let me look gilbert
[17:25] <tgm4883> Mercutio150, it's a Windows 8 tablet, there doesn't have to be a way
[17:25] <jil> I was told memory, but I changed it today...
[17:25] <Gilbert32> windows 8? i thought android
[17:25] <jil> hard disk error?
[17:25] <Mercutio150> Android tablet, windows 8 desktop
[17:25] <rickard> wine doesent want me :(     http://paste.ubuntu.com/1636918/
[17:25] <tgm4883> zykotick9, you'll talking with someone who is a new user. I don't think I would guarentee that it wouldn't break their system without at least checking first
[17:25] <bean_> Mercutio150: then why are you in #ubuntu ?
[17:25] <Gilbert32> :D
[17:25] <tgm4883> zykotick9, but  maybe you like causing people pain ;)
[17:25] <bean_> !offtopic | Mercutio150
[17:26] <jhutchins_wk> rickard: What Windows program are you trying to run?
[17:26] <tgm4883> Mercutio150, oh, that is even worse
[17:26] <Mercutio150> Because this was the first channel I found, so I came in to ask about what channels would be helpful
[17:26] <rickard> i am tring to install wine not to run any programs but photoshop for example
[17:26] <tgm4883> rickard, tad-pole I think it's time to look at his sources
[17:26] <Mercutio150> hmm that link looks helpful gilbert
[17:27] <jhutchins_wk> rickard: Have you looked at the gimp program for image manipulation?
[17:27] <Eagleman> Why does my virbro0 interface keeps duplicating iptable rules on reboot:  -A INPUT -i virbr0 -p udp -m udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
[17:27] <Eagleman> -A INPUT -i virbr0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT  and next time i reboot i have 3 of those rules
[17:27] <xangua> rickard: did you add a third party repository¿
[17:27] <zykotick9> tgm4883: fyi, using upgrade will NOT upgrade things like the kernel, so using it exclusively WILL probably break the system...
[17:27] <Mercutio150> and proves my idea, if they can do that with X.org it can be done for the windows environment
[17:27] <Gilbert32> nah
[17:27] <tad-pole> Mercutio150: http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/hardware/14016-using-tablet-pc-input-device-desktop.html
[17:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Well, there is KDE for Windows...
[17:28] <Gilbert32> you can ask steve ballmer http://www.google.com.lb/search?q=steve+ballmer&aq=f&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=yykZUbCwF4OltAbjnoGQBw&biw=1366&bih=667&sei=0ikZUcSIJJHUsgbF2YEw#imgrc=_
[17:28] <Mercutio150> Surely there is a way to run the tablet purely as hardware for the desktop
[17:28] <tgm4883> zykotick9, actually no, it will not break his system. The only difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade, is that dist-upgrade is allowed to install/remove new packages in order to upgrade the system. Using only upgrade will never, ever break the system.
[17:28] <zykotick9> tgm4883: good luck with that assumption...
[17:29] <tgm4883> zykotick9, please explain to me a scenario where using only 'upgrade' will break the system
[17:29] <Mercutio150> hmm maybe I should take all this and try a new app that will allow you to plug in your tablet like a monitor
[17:29] <Gilbert32> what's the problem?
[17:29] <Mercutio150> Thanks for all your help guys!
[17:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Wow. According to Wikipedia, in 2005 "Ballmer vowed to "kill Google" in an expletive-laden tirade[29] then resumed trying to persuade Lucovsky to stay at Microsoft. Ballmer has described Lucovsky's account of the incident as a "gross exaggeration of what actually took place"."
[17:29] <tad-pole> Mercutio150: http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/hardware/14016-using-tablet-pc-input-device-desktop.html
 yes but i doesent like it that much but it is an alternative sulution if this doesent work
 and in all that, I keep Google alive.
 :)
[17:30] <tad-pole> rickard: http://askubuntu.com/questions/210054/cant-install-wine-or-ia32-libs-in-ubuntu-12-10-64-bit
[17:30] <zykotick9> tgm4883: i'm not going to try and create theoreticals for you...  this isn't support so it's OT.  good luck.
[17:30] <salzb> these tech magnates are like gangsta rappers in their beefs
[17:30] <nkls> hi there, how to remove text beside icons, i want only image: http://postimage.org/image/7ptoz8my7/
[17:30] <nkls> it is possible?
[17:30] <xkernel> file copy of big size causes huge slow response on the whole system, I'm on 12.10
[17:30] <rickard> and the last thing i am a new and then i mean a very new linux user and i have no idea what third party thing means lol
[17:31] <nkls> btw i have ubuntu 10.04
[17:31] <xangua> nkls: use a docl or something like that
[17:31] <tad-pole> rickard: Above link is a fix for your error msg. :/
[17:31] <Eagleman> Why does my virbro0 interface keeps duplicating iptable rules on reboot:  -A INPUT -i virbr0 -p udp -m udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
[17:31] <nkls> xangua, docls is gui?
[17:31] <SonikkuAmerica> nkls: I should warn you about the approaching !EOL anyway, unless you're using Server.
[17:32] <xangua> nkls: a dock* sorry
[17:32] <nkls> xangua, i must to install dock?
[17:33] <nkls> no, xangua i dont want docky this is panel
[17:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Eagleman: Recursive command sequences in a startup script, maybe?
[17:33] <nkls> xangua, can you help me to remove text above the icons?
[17:33] <nkls> i just need that
[17:33] <xangua> nkls: or this http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=101604 :) i used it when i was in lucid, also remember lucid support ends in april
[17:33] <fadi> hey guys
[17:33] <SonikkuAmerica> xangua: :(
[17:33] <tad-pole> Hi Fadi!
[17:34] <fadi> im kinda new here
[17:34] <tad-pole> fadi: welcome!
[17:34] <SonikkuAmerica> fadi: What's your question?
[17:34] <fadi> no question
[17:36] <usefur> hi
[17:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Hello usefur! Please state your question.
[17:36] <ankur> n  m
[17:36] <usefur> no question, just try ubuntu )
[17:37] <Aethelred> I'd like to burn audio files to CD, but I need gapless (DAO). Brasero either doesn't have this option, or it is non-obvious. What is my best GUI CD-mastering choice?
[17:37] <ankur> i have i 3.0 usb port but my 3.0 usb external harddisk is not detecting in ubuntu
[17:37] <ankur> what i have supposed to do
[17:38] <joel135> ankur, try using the port for something else, like your keyboard
[17:38] <ankur> i had tried
[17:38] <joel135> I suppose it works?
[17:38] <ankur> it is detecting 2.0 usb devices but
[17:38] <SonikkuAmerica> ankur: It doesn't work for anything>
[17:38] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[17:38] <ankur> not my 3.0 usb harddisk
[17:38] <Enactor> how to install java update13.......is there a program i can use or just terminal?
[17:39] <Eagleman> Why does my virbro0 interface keeps duplicating iptable rules on reboot:  -A INPUT -i virbr0 -p udp -m udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
[17:39] <bekks> !java | Enactor
[17:39] <Enactor> k
[17:39] <SonikkuAmerica> !u | Enactor
[17:39] <tad-pole> rickard: Any luck? :)
[17:39] <joel135> Have you read the latest output of dmesg? I remember it giving helpful hints once
[17:40] <joel135> ankur, ^
[17:40] <fox__> hi
[17:40] <fox__> hi
[17:40] <fox__> hi
[17:40] <FloodBot1> fox__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:40] <rickard> if i understood it correct it wont work in ubuntu 12.10 i can have missuderstood it though
[17:40] <ankur> heyy!!!!
[17:41] <SonikkuAmerica> ankur: Did you check what joel135 said earlier?
[17:41] <ankur> is there is any way so that i can use my harddisk with 3.0 usb speed
[17:41] <jbroome> ankur: you need a usb 3 drive and a usb3 interface on your machine
[17:41] <SonikkuAmerica> ankur: Another thing to try is plug in your HDD and type [ lsusb ] in a terminal to see if it's even listed.
[17:41] <ankur> i have both
[17:42] <ankur> ok wait for a while
[17:42]  * tad-pole waits.
[17:42] <JoeyJoeJo> I'm trying to compile something that requires an older version of libpcap than I have. How can I downgrade my version of libpcap?
[17:42] <Gilbert32> does ubuntu fail often before starting like on my machine?
[17:43] <jbroome> nope
[17:43] <jbroome> (to Gilbert32 )
[17:43] <ankur> no it is not listed in lsusb output
[17:44] <c2tarun> can anyone please help me in changing pidgin theme?
[17:45] <Gilbert32> I upgraded the kernel many times (i have from 3.0.0.17 to .23 i think?) and installed 3.7 kernel and still fails many times (just hangs in terminal output) with either black screen and blinking cursor or stuff related to audio and video and wireless
[17:45] <rickard> what was the link of my wine problem again? my computer shutdown
[17:45] <tad-pole> rickard: http://askubuntu.com/questions/210054/cant-install-wine-or-ia32-libs-in-ubuntu-12-10-64-bit
[17:46] <tad-pole> rickard: There are a coupe ways people fixed the issue   so read the whole page first
[17:46] <XtremeWiz> c2tarun: I am not sure if this is the best method but you can use Pidgin GTK Theme Control plugin. Folks in #pidgin can help you better. :)
[17:47] <ankur> hey from where i can download the deb files of the software so that at the time of installation it doesnt need a internet connection
[17:47] <ankur> ????
[17:47] <c2tarun> XtremeWiz, yeah but how can I select the downloaded theme? I am able to create my own theme but not able to apply the downloaded one.
[17:47] <c2tarun> ankur, I guess, check on launchpad.net
[17:48] <xkernel> file copy of big size causes huge slow response on the whole system, I'm on 12.10
[17:48] <Pici> ankur: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[17:48] <xangua> !aptoncd | ankur
[17:49] <c2tarun> #pidgin
[17:50] <ankur> where did the packages stored when i download the packages from apt-get command
[17:50] <Eagleman> Why does my virbro0 interface keeps duplicating iptable rules on reboot:  -A INPUT -i virbr0 -p udp -m udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
[17:50] <widad> plz need help i have a problem in my terminal. it used to scroll like this ----- and now it is scrolling like this |
[17:51] <genii-around> ankur: /var/cache/apt/archives
[17:51] <fully_human> widad: You mean it used to scoll horizontally?
[17:51] <fully_human> *scroll
[17:51] <widad> yes
[17:52] <genii-around> ankur: Or if you are using specifically the download option to apt-get, then the file will be in the directory in which you issued the commend
[17:52] <fully_human> widad: May I ask why your terminal is set up that way?
[17:52] <devslash> Has anyone had experience with full file system encryption in Ubuntu
[17:52] <widad> gnome
[17:52] <Gilbert32> does APTonCD create usb disks too?
[17:53] <fully_human> widad: I meant, why do you want horizontal scrolling?
[17:54] <widad> i can see all files with it and i think it is more pretty
[17:54] <mumin-kun> if i install the 13.04 pre-release, do i need to reinstall it when the official version has been released?
[17:54] <mumin-kun> or is it just sudo apt-get update
[17:54] <SonikkuAmerica2> mumin-kun: You shouldn't have to.
[17:55] <Pici> !final | mumin-kun
[17:55] <Pici> goes for all pre-releases
[17:55] <widad> how do you do the red wrinting on your name pl?
[17:55] <widad> plz
[17:55] <SonikkuAmerica2> mumin-kun: But the command you need is [ update-manager -c -d --no-update ] if you're upgrading from 12.10
[17:55] <widad> ?
[17:55] <mumin-kun> ok thx!
[17:55] <SonikkuAmerica2> widad: That just happens when people type your nick in their message.
[17:56] <genii-around> widad: When a message written by someone has your name in it, you will see that message highlighted because it is for you
[17:56] <widad> yes but how can i do it?
[17:56] <fully_human> widad: I use KDE, so for your gnome-terminal question, I'd look under settings and profile preferences.
[17:56] <widad> i'm a bigginer sorry
[17:57] <widad> yes thanks you
[17:57] <devslash> Has anyone used luks encryption in Ubuntu?
[17:57] <fully_human> widad: Just type the first few letters of a a nick, hit tab, and the name should complete. For example, I type "wid," hit tab, and your name pops up.
[17:57] <widad> fully_human: thanks a lot
[17:59] <rickard> i maby have found out the problem, in wine's website it says it is working for ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04 maby 12.10 is to new...
[18:00] <moofy> ahoyhay
[18:00] <moofy> Question
[18:00] <moofy> if any of you know
[18:01] <meelu> How does one go about adding ipv6 ip /64 ip block to there Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS, 64 bit, having gateway netmask and ip/block provided by server provider
[18:01] <moofy> I want to set up ruby via rbenv to serve a website
[18:01] <GeekSquid> !enter | moofy
[18:01] <tad-pole> rickard: Works fine for me...
[18:01] <marahin> rickard, no, it's not. Wine works fine @ 12.10 too. /me uses it.
[18:01] <rickard> ok then i will have to try to read more
[18:04] <liquidmetal> Has anyone ever used the ipod nano 6g on ubuntu?
[18:05] <tad-pole> I use an 8g
[18:05] <ikonia> liquidmetal: they used to sync, but I don't they do now
[18:05] <devslash> Has anyone used luks encryption with ubuntu 12.10
[18:05] <Eagleman> How do i disable my virbr0 interface from duplicating iptable rules on reboot ( i end up with 100x the same rules after 100 reboots )
[18:05] <liquidmetal> ikonia: how did you sync it?
[18:06] <nashant> Just a quick question about disk recovery. Would hot-swapping a drive out kick it back into life temporarily?
[18:07] <tad-pole> liquidmetal: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/08/how-to-use-banshee-to-manage-your-ipod-in-ubuntu/
[18:07] <zykotick9> Eagleman: if you don't get an answer here, you might want to try #virt on the oftc network
[18:08] <widad-charai> plz i'm a biginner in ubuntu and i have a problem. when i do the command ls the result is scrolling vertical (don't like it ) but i want it horizantal. how can i change that? thanks for helping!
[18:09] <rickard> does everyone see what i am typing or just some few?
[18:09] <devslash> Nope not me
[18:09] <widad-charai> rickard i see it
[18:09] <Pici> rickard: everyone
[18:09] <rickard> ok
[18:09] <liquidmetal> tad-pole: I dont think the 6th gen ipod works with banshee
[18:09] <AntelopeSalad> if i want to setup 2 independent displays with lubuntu am i forced to install specific video card drivers? note: i'm running in a VM
[18:10] <widad-charai> can anyone hep me plz?
[18:10] <Pici> widad-charai: Can you please share the output of: which ls
[18:10] <tad-pole> liquidmetal: http://downloadsquad.switched.com/2008/03/18/enable-support-for-7th-gen-ipods-in-ubuntu/
[18:11] <tad-pole> liquidmetal: The url says 7th   the site says 6th    try that?
[18:11] <widad-charai> helllllllllllllllllllppp
[18:11] <Gilbert32> is there any way yet to install drivers for a legacy and a new amd radeon graphics cards? at the same time? (IGD and DIS cards)
[18:11] <tad-pole> liquidmetal: FYI This is all off the first page of a google search for "6th gen ipod linux"
[18:11] <l057c0d3r> widad-charai, what seems to be the problem bud
[18:11] <itxj> did ubuntu stop developing the version of gnome ubuntu without unity?
[18:11] <widad-charai> plz i'm a biginner in ubuntu and i have a problem. when i do the command ls the result is scrolling vertical (don't like it ) but i want it horizantal. how can i change that? thanks for helping!
[18:11] <Pici> widad-charai: please pastebin the out put of: alias
[18:11] <Pici> !pastebin | widad-charai
[18:11] <ioria> widad-charai : i know it sounds silly, but try to enlarge the terminal
[18:11] <whoever> hi all, does anyone know why bluetooth will lockup when a single cpu spikes, and will remain unresponsive untill the system is reboot, even with service bluetooth restart, the command will just hang
[18:12] <zykotick9> Pici: re:widad-charai, have you ever heard of horizontal scrolling for ls before?  i sure haven't.
[18:12] <l057c0d3r> itxj..  you can type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop to get gnome back
[18:12] <Pici> zykotick9: sounds like the difference between ls and ls -l
[18:12] <zykotick9> Pici: still both vertical ;)
[18:12] <Pici> zykotick9: one is 'more horizontal' ;)
[18:12] <widad-charai> i'll do a photo to let you see it pici
[18:12] <Lawliet9> salut
[18:13] <tad-pole> liquidmetal: Please let me know if that helps.
[18:16] <l057c0d3r> wait so is he wanting the text to scroll from side to side rather then from top to bottom?
[18:16] <WalmartSteak> Hello?
[18:16] <Pici> l057c0d3r: we're not sure exactly
[18:16] <widad-charai> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6j3kfab0twxhciw/Screenshot%20from%202013-02-11%2018%3A15%3A08.png
[18:16] <l057c0d3r> that what it sounds like to me...
[18:16] <widad-charai> Pici: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6j3kfab0twxhciw/Screenshot%20from%202013-02-11%2018%3A15%3A08.png
[18:17] <LoneTrooper> has anyone installed beta amd ati drivers 13.2 on ubuntu/xubuntu?
[18:18] <LoneTrooper> i wonder if it works
[18:18] <l057c0d3r> widad-charai, i believe it is the terminal you are using
[18:18] <rickard> this might take a while but i think it actualy works now =D and it wouldent have come this far without your help =D thanks
[18:19] <jbroome> zykotick9: Pici, that screenshot looks like the output of ls -l
[18:19] <Hawkerz> dunno but the nvidia drivers on 12.04 from x-updates in a bumblebee/optimus configuration suddenly is giving me trouble
[18:19] <l057c0d3r> and its width..  as for why it is scrolling one result straight down
[18:19] <LoneTrooper> i made with 13.1 amd ati drivers on xubuntu im so happy
[18:19] <zykotick9> Pici: perhaps your ls vs ls -l is correct.  widad-charai could you check your "alias | grep ls" output for anything with -l.  jbroome agree.
[18:19] <tad-pole> rickard: got it going?
[18:19] <widad-charai> l057c0d3r: that's my problem
[18:20] <paco1> hello all!
[18:20] <LoneTrooper> hi
[18:20] <yeehaw> widad-charai: ls -m
[18:20] <l057c0d3r> well if you can't find a way to make the width wider.. try using a better terminal app
[18:20] <devslash> Has anyone set up ubuntu with an lvm?
[18:20] <rickard> yepp it is installing alot of files but i still might get an error but it havet even got this far before
[18:20] <wNz> devslash: : sure
[18:20] <zykotick9> yeehaw: that's ugly ;)
[18:20] <jbroome> oh god, ls -m is horrible. :)
[18:20] <xkernel> file copy of big size causes huge slow response on the whole system, I'm on 12.10
[18:20] <bekks> !anyone | devslash
[18:20] <paco1> i have a question: how to convert "cpu user time" to "real time"? thanks in advance!
[18:20] <l057c0d3r> or is your point to get it integrated into the background like that
[18:21] <widad-charai> plz private messag can't read fast plz
[18:21] <lucaszz> Are any posibbilities to run ftp with emelfm2 ?
[18:21] <yeehaw> paco1: Do you mean unix time?
[18:21] <AntelopeSalad> this is messed up, how is possible that a 9800 gtx+ isn't a supported lubuntu video card?
[18:21] <AntelopeSalad> *is it
[18:21] <paco1> yeehaw: yep
[18:21] <bekks> paco1: There is no way, since "real time" strongly depends on the overall CPU load, while "cpu time" just tells you how long the cpu actually took to complete your task.
[18:21] <lesshaste> how do I see the package info for an installed package? octave in this case
[18:21] <devslash> Wnz I'm trying to set it up but I'm stuck. I create the volume. How do I specify the root partition in the volume
[18:21] <Fels> hi all - how do  i launch an app that is already installed in Ubuntu - I want to run QtCreator
[18:21] <LoneTrooper> what a mess
[18:22] <zykotick9> lesshaste: "apt-cache show octave" perhaps?
[18:22] <yeehaw> paco1: date -d @unixtimenumber
[18:22] <tad-pole> AntelopeSalad: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_173.08.html
[18:22] <liquidmetal> tad-pole: that page is from 2008 - the 6th gen nano wasn't even out back then
[18:22] <wNz> devslash: mount it on /
[18:23] <rickard> yepp it was installed correctly thanks again for you help =D
[18:23] <AntelopeSalad> liquidmetal: thanks, i'll try it -- the drivers using their find driver form gave me drivers that wouldn't install
[18:23] <Boreeas> I recently installed a new SSD. Since then, hibernation fails, even though there's plenty of swap available (10GB for 3GB RAM). Neither /home nor the swap partition are encrypted
[18:23] <Boreeas> Does anyone know what to do?
[18:23] <LoneTrooper> uh oh u know xubuntu its pretty much the same like ubuntu but its without that broken unity it collapsed after fresh install on ati 6670
[18:24] <AntelopeSalad> liquidmetal: nope, it says unsupported
[18:24] <zykotick9> Boreeas: i don't know the details, by hibernation is disabled on ubuntu by default...
[18:24] <LoneTrooper> at least open source drivers
[18:24] <skulltip> how long will it be before we see libreoffice 4.0 in the repos? should i just wait, looks like i would have to uninstall to install the new office 4.0
[18:24] <LoneTrooper> i installed 13.1 from amd it i had too
[18:24] <skulltip> << 12.04
[18:25] <tgm4883> skulltip, it won't be in the 12.04 repos
[18:25] <LoneTrooper> too many glitches on drivers provided by ubuntu
[18:25] <skulltip> why not tgm4883
[18:25] <LoneTrooper> even opera browser does not work lol on these drivers
[18:25] <AntelopeSalad> is there another distro of linux where the 9800 gtx+ is properly supported?
[18:25] <LoneTrooper> it deepens on drivers mostly
[18:26] <elisa87> how can I go to textmode when I boot my ubuntu? (
[18:26] <LoneTrooper> like i said u have to instal drivers  from nvidia's web site
[18:26] <AntelopeSalad> i did, but it errors out instantly saying the hardware is unsupported
[18:26] <LoneTrooper> but u have to build package from *.run file
[18:26] <zykotick9> elisa87: ctrl+alt+f1, alt+f7 to get back.  or you want to boot to text, see "/msg ubottu text" for help with that.
[18:26] <LoneTrooper> u have too google for guide
[18:27] <AntelopeSalad> i'll just try a different distro, spending 3 hours to get 2 monitors working independently is 3 hours too many :D
[18:27] <tad-pole> liquidmetal: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1197006
[18:27] <skulltip> so i should just remove libreoffice using synaptic and install the debs manually?
[18:27] <cnb_> Does anyone know where there's a reliable backport of Puppet 3.1 for Ubuntu 12.10?
[18:27] <tgm4883> skulltip, that isn't how the repos work. It might be backported, but it isn't a security update. Even though it's in main, since it's a major version upgrade I don't think it will be updated. You'll probably be able to get it when available via the libreoffice packaging teams PPA for 4.0  https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-4-0
[18:28] <tgm4883> cnb_, have you tried the puppet repo?
[18:28] <LoneTrooper> that short compared what i had just to install these stupid drivers unbelievable
[18:28] <tgm4883> cnb_, I don't  use puppet on 12.10, but I'm pretty sure we've rolled 3.1 out to our 12.04 servers
[18:28] <LoneTrooper> its hard compard to windows
[18:28] <tgm4883> cnb_, yep, 12.04 has 3.1.0
[18:28] <skulltip> ok ty
[18:28] <cnb_> How do I get 3.1, then?  It installs 2.7 by default.
[18:29] <tgm4883> cnb_, did you enable the puppetlabs repo?
[18:29] <tgm4883> cnb_, http://apt.puppetlabs.com/
[18:29] <cnb_> Okay.  Where do I add that?
[18:30] <pr1nt> Hm.
[18:30] <tgm4883> cnb_, install puppetlabs-release-quantal.deb from that link
[18:30] <Boreeas> zykotick9: I don't know, I just dd'd the old partition over, and hibernation worked fine there. The program I ususally use, pm-hibernate, is also still there
[18:30] <Boreeas> The computer does indeed suspend, it just fails to resume
[18:30] <tgm4883> cnb_, that will install the repo and key, then just apt-get update and  upgrade as normal
[18:31] <LoneTrooper> oh i have  a question i dont see any reasonable archiving program on ubuntu except peazip
[18:31] <bekks> LoneTrooper: Whats the question about it?
[18:31] <LoneTrooper> but lauching a package displays an error package is bad quality
[18:31] <zykotick9> Boreeas: i use pm-hibernate as well (not on ubuntu mind you)  i actually have the same issue, with a machine that used to hibernate, but now seems to start the process - then just return where i issues the hibernate command.  hope you have more luck fixing it then me (honestly, i haven't really tried yet but...)  good luck.
[18:31] <LoneTrooper> is it safe to ignore tht message and install anyway?
[18:31] <kvv> intersting.
[18:32] <tgm4883> LoneTrooper, an archiving program... like tar?
[18:32] <LoneTrooper> has anyone tryed peazip on ubuntu lubuntu xubuntu?
[18:32] <bekks> !anyone | LoneTrooper
[18:33] <elisa87> When should I press ctrl+alt+f1 for entering to text mode when I press restart?
[18:33] <LoneTrooper> dem bots...
[18:33] <elisa87> I pressed three of them at the same time but nothing happened
[18:34] <XtremeWiz> How do I start identd on my system? I tried "sudo /etc/init.d/identd start" and "Command Not Found" error was displayed.
[18:34] <LoneTrooper> ctrl alt f1 is for full screen terminal
[18:34] <LoneTrooper> why dont u launch terminal in a small window
[18:34] <bekks> LoneTrooper: Which is not true.
[18:34] <bekks> LoneTrooper: ctrl alt f1 changes to TTY1.
[18:34] <LoneTrooper> rly so what it does
[18:34] <zykotick9> elisa87: sorry, the c+a+f1 is when you are in Xorg, to get to a virtual console.
[18:34] <LoneTrooper> oh well good to know
[18:35] <mr0wl> is there a stable PPA for LibreOffice 4?
[18:35] <sw_> hi. I'm moving from httpd to nginx and was wondering if virtual hosts should just be put in the sites-available/default file, or if they should have their own file?
[18:35] <elisa87> zykotick9:  so what is the solution?
[18:35] <xro> Hi, i try to debug QRcode... is there a soft that's able to read QRcode and provide interesting debug informations?
[18:35] <zykotick9> elisa87: i'm not sure what you want actually...
[18:35] <cnb_> Ah, great.  That did it.  Thanks.
[18:35] <tgm4883> mr0wl, not that I know of. There is the libeoffice packagers PPA for 4.0, but it doesn't have anything in it yet
[18:36] <tgm4883> mr0wl, https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-4-0
[18:36] <liquidmetal> tad-pole: nothing works man :(
[18:36] <ioria> elisa87:  you want to start ubuntu in text mode only ?
[18:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> Is this the right channel to ask about ssh'ing/tunnelling related questions?
[18:36] <LoneTrooper> oh my libre 4 released good that u reminded dat
[18:37] <tgm4883> WhereIsMySpoon, it's a good start
[18:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> Ok then. I have a service (rails app actually) that's running on localhost:3000 on one linux machine. I have done a reverse tunnel (ssh -R portOnRemote:localhost:3000 me@myserver.net) which in theory should make the service available on the remote myserver.net. However, when I try to go to myserver.net:portOnRemote, I get webpage is not available
[18:38] <devslash> I'm trying to setup an lvm. Once I create the volume how do I specify that I want it as the root partition
[18:38] <wNz> devslash: set the mount point to /
[18:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> I can easily ssh to the remote server from the other machine, i just cant access this service
[18:38] <devslash> How
[18:39] <jhutchins_wk> LoneTrooper: Not sure what features you need, but there are tar, zip, rar, bzip, compress, and a bunch of others.
[18:39] <LoneTrooper> no libre office 4 on ubuntu software center, not fair :/
[18:39] <tgm4883> LoneTrooper, it's not in any of the repos yet
[18:39] <yeehaw> WhereIsMySpoon: Firewall?
[18:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> yeehaw: i've reverse tunnel'd to this server before and my friend has been able to ssh into my machine to do stuff with it
[18:40] <tad-pole> liquidmetal: Ok really I LIKE this one. http://psyphi.net/blog/2012/12/ipod-nano-6th-gen-with-ubuntu/
[18:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> yeehaw: *ssh into my machine through the server
[18:40] <paradoxgo> I have an external monitor which is capable of a 1366x768 resolution but ubuntu is only giving the option of 1024x768. is there anything I can do to fix it?
[18:40] <LoneTrooper> u takin about peazip right?
[18:41] <tgm4883> LoneTrooper, libreoffice 4.0 isn't in any of the repos yet
[18:41] <yeehaw> WhereIsMySpoon: What port do you use remote?
[18:41] <WhereIsMySpoon> yeehaw: 5455
[18:41] <LoneTrooper> damn too bad
[18:41] <yeehaw> WhereIsMySpoon: Can you telnet that port on the machine itself?
[18:42] <Ubuntu-erikas> Hedge?
[18:42] <tad-pole> paradoxgo: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=adding%20resolutions%20on%20linux&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.linuxmint.com%2Ftutorial%2Fview%2F877&ei=YzsZUZiVCuS0iQKGz4CABQ&usg=AFQjCNElzLyRNSpTFkSKo9Fz3AcN1geCcQ&bvm=bv.42080656,d.cGE
[18:42] <WhereIsMySpoon> yeehaw: sorry, what do you mean?
[18:42] <POVaddct> WhereIsMySpoon: access to a remote port fw has to be from the machine itself.
[18:42] <tad-pole> oops
[18:42] <yeehaw> WhereIsMySpoon: Create the tunnel, then login to the server and do: telnet localhost 5455
[18:42] <Ubuntu-erikas> I want to Install WinXP alongside Ubuntu 12.04 LTS...i don't know how to do this
[18:42] <yeehaw> WhereIsMySpoon: Do you get a connection?
[18:43] <yeehaw> !dualboot Ubuntu-erikas
[18:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> yeehaw: says connected to localhost
[18:43] <Ubuntu-erikas> ohhh thanks very mouch
[18:43] <Ubuntu-erikas> !dualboot
[18:43] <devslash> When I create an lvm volume how do I specify that I want it as the root partition when installing ubuntu
[18:43] <zykotick9> yeehaw: you need a | like "!dualboot | Ubuntu-erikas"
[18:43] <yeehaw> WhereIsMySpoon: Then your tunnel is working properly
[18:44] <yeehaw> zykotick9: thanks
[18:44] <LoneTrooper> its simple u know u have to install xp fist and leave some empty space ( maybe half ?) for linux partitions
[18:44] <yeehaw> WhereIsMySpoon: It just does not listen for outside connections
[18:45] <LoneTrooper> and while installing distro u want u have to select install along with windows
[18:45] <LoneTrooper> its easy i had windows 7 and xubuntu
[18:45] <LoneTrooper> no probs
[18:45] <yeehaw> WhereIsMySpoon: I have no idea if you can even do that with an ssh tunnel
[18:45] <Ubuntu-erikas> okay
[18:45] <wNz> devslash: specify / as the mount point
[18:46] <LoneTrooper> and after installing linux distro u will have too choose what os u want to start during start of the pc
[18:46] <POVaddct> yeehaw: i think local port forwarding (-L option) can be made listening to connections from outside, but remote port forwarding (-R option) is limited to connections from 127.0.0.1 and ::1
[18:47] <wNz> WhereIsMySpoon: i use ssh -gL port:hostname:port localhost
[18:47] <wNz> for port forwarding
[18:47] <wNz> then you can use:
[18:47] <POVaddct> wNz: he needs remote port forwarding
[18:47] <wNz> netstat -tunap | grep <port>
[18:47] <wNz> to verify the port is opening and lisetning
[18:48] <POVaddct> wNz: with the -R option the ssh server side opens the port and forwards traffic to the ssh client machine
[18:48] <yeehaw> He could start a ssh server at home and do it reverse :P
[18:48] <POVaddct> wNz: that way you can bypass a NAT gateway
[18:49] <devslash> Wnz how do i specify the root partition of an lvm volume
[18:49] <wNz> devslash: the same way you do it with a partition
[18:49] <devslash> How
[18:49] <wNz> devslash: when it asks 'where do i mount this' choose /
[18:49] <devslash> Gparted wont let me
[18:50] <wNz> gparted?
[18:50] <wNz> O_O
[18:50] <yeehaw> lol
[18:50] <perlhelp> Hello?
[18:50] <lawlman> hello guys
[18:50] <wNz> hello
[18:50] <devslash> Its not asking me because i created the lvm in terminal
[18:50] <perlhelp> Is there a mod here with whom I can please speak?
[18:50] <LoneTrooper> hi?
[18:50] <wNz> devslash: are you using the alternative disk?
[18:50] <tgm4883> perlhelp, for what reason?
[18:50] <lawlman> when will the support stop for ubuntu 10.04 lts?
[18:50] <wNz> devslash: i *think* the alternative disk is required for lvm installation.
[18:50] <devslash> No there is no alternative disk for Ubuntu 12.10
[18:51] <wNz> hmmm
[18:51] <zykotick9> !10.04 | lawlman
[18:51] <lawlman> thanks
[18:51] <devslash> I know how to create the lvm in terminal but not how to designate the root pqrtition
[18:52] <wNz> devslash: its done during the install. im uncertain exactly how it's presented, but it'll ask you how you want to partition your devices
[18:52] <wNz> you do it in that window
[18:52] <Pici> perlhelp: #ubuntu ops don't handle perl bans. You'd need to speak to the operators for that channel.
[18:52] <LoneTrooper> yeh i seen that option logic volume management during installation
[18:52] <devslash> Wnz no.the graphical installer doesnt support lvm
[18:52] <Pici> perlhelp: the folks in #freenode might be able to help you get a hold of them if you don't know how.
[18:53] <LoneTrooper> it allows dynamic resizing of partitions
[18:53] <yeehaw> devslash: You mount the partition and create the filesystem and edit /etc/fstab
[18:53] <devslash> It doesn't let you manually create volumes
[18:53] <yeehaw> devslash: But you reallydon't want to do that
[18:53] <devslash> Yeehaw i dont have an fstab
[18:53] <devslash> And i shouldnt
[18:53] <yeehaw> devslash: You should use the graphical installer, not from command line
[18:53] <devslash> Because i still have to create the volumes
[18:53] <moofy> How do I run a command with sudo using my local $path rather than root's?
[18:54] <perlhelp> Thank you pici!
[18:54] <yeehaw> devslash: Are you literally on the command line? Or in the installer
[18:55] <devslash> I booted the live cd
[18:55] <devslash> So  i can create the lvm
[18:55] <Rajvi> Hi All, I messed my system :(. Installed KDE standard packages on my 12.10 to get dual DE. Now I don't like it! Tried to uninstall using Synaptic Pkg Manager.. It won't open, just ask for password that's it. Kaput :(
[18:55] <yeehaw> devslash: I would advise you to use the alternative installer, then you can create lvm during installlation
[18:56] <devslash> Theres a shortcut to install ubuntu but when i get to the point where you partition it says that theres no root partition
[18:56] <wNz> yeehaw: he said there is no alt isntaller for 12.10
[18:56] <eZ0v3rR1d3> ppa
[18:56] <eZ0v3rR1d3> lol new here sorry
[18:56] <devslash> Yeehaw there is no such thing as alternate ibstaller for ubuntu 12.10. Cannonical dropped it
[18:56] <yeehaw> wNz: But the 12.10 installer has LVM
[18:57] <wNz> hmmm
[18:57] <tgm4883> devslash, what are  you trying to acomplish with LVM?
[18:57] <wNz> devslash: what did you choose when it asked about how to setup yoru disks?
[18:57] <devslash> Tgm encrypted disk
[18:57] <wNz> eww
[18:57] <wNz> ehh
[18:57] <wNz> isn't there an option to encrypt your disk in the installer?
[18:57] <tgm4883> do you need LVM for encrypted disk?
[18:57] <LoneTrooper> it is
[18:57] <tgm4883> wNz, yes there is
[18:58] <devslash> Wnz only if you erase your existing disk.i have a dual boot setup
[18:58] <wNz> ah.
[18:58] <LoneTrooper> i have installed xubuntu with encrypted hdd
[18:58] <wNz> devslash: couldn't you encrypt a specific partition? it only does whole disks?
[18:58] <Dr_proX> Oi
[18:58] <tgm4883> devslash, so when you did the custom partitioning in the installer, did you make a root partition?
[18:58] <LoneTrooper> if u choose that u will have to enter password during a boot of the os
[18:59] <devslash> Tgm i did it in terminal because the installer doesnt support lvm
[18:59] <LoneTrooper> and the 2 password for your login
[18:59] <devslash> Tgm i create the volume in terminal
[18:59] <tgm4883> wNz, depends on how secure he needs it
[18:59] <lawlman> anybody knows any good linux networking guides?
[19:00] <yeehaw> devslash: Why don't you use ubuntu's automatic lvm creation and then edit the lvm partitions after the fact?
[19:00] <tgm4883> yeehaw, he's dual booting
[19:00] <devslash> Yeehaw you can't
[19:00] <yeehaw> tgm4883: Aah I missed that
[19:00] <rexwin_> configure.sh: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[19:01] <tgm4883> yeehaw, the automatic stuff only works if you let it take over the whole disk
[19:01] <devslash> Its ok im going to try it out in a vm insteas
[19:01] <devslash> Instead
[19:01] <yeehaw> devslash: You could create only a root partition now, install it to there and then create lvm after the fact.
[19:01] <LoneTrooper> ok im new to linux os i have xubuntu and i wonder if theres a need to install sort of Internet security suite like for windows
[19:01] <LoneTrooper> i have 2 passwords for pc (login and hhd encryption)
[19:01] <yeehaw> devslash: And then liveboot it and move everything
[19:01] <devslash> I wouldn't know ho to do that
[19:01] <LoneTrooper> is it enough to protect pc?
[19:02] <devslash> I think ill try it in a vm.this is too complicated for me
[19:02] <yeehaw> devslash: Basically you just mount everything and with 'cp -a .' move everything to the new partitions
[19:02] <yeehaw> devslash: Then edit the fstab too reflect these changes
[19:03] <yeehaw> devslash: I've done it on multiple servers that got smaller disks and it's not that hard
[19:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> yeehaw: Hm ok, I'm trying a different tact: do ssh -R 5455:localhost:3000 me@myserver.net on the machine that is hosting the service, then doing ssh -L 9989:localhost:5455 me@myserver.net on the machine that wants to use the service
[19:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> would that work?
[19:03] <yeehaw> Anyone know why they dropped propper lvm support?
[19:04] <devslash> How do i delete my lvm in gparted.right click and delete is greyed out
[19:04] <yeehaw> WhereIsMySpoon: I have no idea, you should try it.
[19:04] <yeehaw> devslash: First delete all the partitions and then the group?
[19:04] <xangua> devslash: use gparted from a live cd
[19:05] <sw_> hi. what's the put sftp command to put all files plus subfolders etc.?
[19:05] <devslash> How
[19:05] <devslash> Im using gparted from livecd
[19:05] <yeehaw> sw_: put * ?
[19:05] <sw_> yeehaw: excludes subfolders :-(
[19:06] <tgm4883> -R ?
[19:06] <Dr_proX> -R
[19:06] <yeehaw> devslash: First delete lvm in the command line
[19:06] <sw_> is it -r or -R?
[19:06] <yeehaw> devslash: format the volumegroup to ext4 or something with mk2fs.ext4
[19:07] <Dr_proX> -R or -D
[19:07] <bekks> yeehaw: WRONG.
[19:07] <yeehaw> devslash: Then format it in gparted
[19:07] <yeehaw> YeahRight: What?
[19:07] <bekks> yeehaw: wRONG, Stop it please.
[19:07] <yeehaw> bekks: What?
[19:07] <param_> Unable to connect internet by wifi in ubuntu server
[19:07] <param_> ?
[19:07] <param_> Unable to connect internet by wifi in ubuntu server ?
[19:07] <bekks> devslash: You have to create logical volumes inside a volue group, and then you can format those logical volumes with a filesystem of your choice.
[19:07] <sw_> Dr_proX: with -R it fails on the subfolders, saying it couldn't canocicalize or something
[19:08] <genii-around> param_: You probably need a wpa.conf file
[19:08] <bekks> yeehaw: You cannot format a volume group with a filesystem.
[19:08] <wNz> yeehaw: logical volume*
[19:08] <yeehaw> bekks: He's trying to remove the lvm
[19:08] <Dr_proX> sw_: try -D
[19:08] <sw_> Dr_proX: -D invalid flag :<
[19:08] <wNz> you could just dd the disk its on xD
[19:08] <bekks> devslash: Then remove all logical volumes, remove the volume group, remove the physical volume, then use gparted to do what you want.
[19:09] <Dr_proX> sw_: ehm.please query the full output..
[19:09] <devslash> Ok thanks i got it
[19:09] <bekks> yeehaw: Still, a volume group cannot be formated.
[19:09] <sw_> Dr_proX: maybe I need to create the subfolders first?
[19:09] <devslash> Im gonna do this in a vm
[19:09] <yeehaw> bekks: If the volume group contains only one partition and you format that partition it will no longer exist after a reboot right?
[19:10] <sw_> Dr_proX: seems to work if the subfolders are created first
[19:10] <yeehaw> bekks: He is working on a livecd
[19:10] <devslash> So i don't have to worry about any data loss
[19:10] <devslash> Even though i did make a backup
[19:10] <bekks> yeehaw: A volume group never contains a partition, but only logical volumes. A volume group is built upon physical volumes.
[19:11] <Dr_proX> sw_: Ok, strange, maybe wrong sub owner rights_
[19:11] <yeehaw> bekks: That's what I said, you format the physical volume / partition
[19:11] <bekks> yeehaw: You said something totally different. :)
[19:12] <Shadow__X> hello everyone of xubuntu 12.04 suspend and hibernate restarts the computer by itself
[19:12] <Shadow__X> s/of/on
[19:12] <yeehaw> bekks: But if you have an empty volume group with only one physical volume in it, it is still a partition, only with the lvm 'filesystem', so you could still format it and do something else. That's what I meant, sorry if that was unclear
[19:13] <yeehaw> bekks: In a way you are then formatting the volume group
[19:13] <bekks> yeehaw: No. In no way you ever format a volume group.
[19:14] <bekks> yeehaw: A volume group is a meta-construct which actually only exists by defining a bunch of metadata on a physical volume.
[19:15] <wNz> yeah, you could format the pv or the lv, but not hte vg
[19:15] <wNz> the vg is just a group pvs
[19:15] <wNz> group of
[19:17] <yeehaw> bekks: But that data is contained on the physical volume itself, so when you format it you also format the vg. But I guess that's indeed the wrong way too look at it, because you would also be formatting a movie if its on a physical volume you're formatting.
[19:17] <yeehaw> bekks: I will not say that again :P
[19:17] <bekks> yeehaw: Correct.
[19:19] <ozcanesen> are gtk2 and gtk3 window effects have difference? for example is gtk2 window closing faster than gtk3 window?
[19:21] <Pici> ozcanesen: gtk just provides the widgets within the window, your window manager should control the effects.
[19:21] <param> Unable to connect internet by wifi in ubuntu server ?
[19:21] <devslash> Thanks guys for your help but setting up lvm with a dual boot is too complicated for me.
[19:22] <Shadow__X> any ideas on how to get suspend workibg on xubuntu 12.04?
[19:22] <ozcanesen> Pici, thanks
[19:22] <belgianguy> is there somewhere documentation about the best practices to secure a server?
[19:22] <belgianguy> and how to test if it's actually secure (BackTrack and friends)
[19:22] <param> Unable to connect internet by wifi in ubuntu server ?
[19:22] <narcos> Hey there. Im looking for help getting hybserv working with hybrid-ircd IRC server.
[19:22] <devslash> If I set up lvm encryption is it necessary or a good idea to also encrypt the home folder
[19:23] <devslash> Or is that overkill
[19:24] <Marlinc> Hello I'm trying to get multitouch to work
[19:25] <Marlinc> synclient shows in monitor mode that 2 fingers are pressed
[19:25] <Marlinc> It also sees it when I put three fingers on my touchpad
[19:25] <Marlinc> But still I can't seem te be able to use it
[19:25] <param> Unable to connect internet by wifi in ubuntu server ?
[19:25] <slavix> Hello, can someone tell me what package I need to install on ubuntu 12.10 to build an app from source if I get an error: configure: error: Can not find X11 library
[19:26] <Pici> slavix: likely xorg-dev
[19:26] <LoneTrooper> read some guide related to that application
[19:26] <slavix> thnx
[19:26] <LoneTrooper> some applications needs some libraries to work
[19:26] <LoneTrooper> to compile a package
[19:27] <genii-around> slavix: Most likely xserver-xorg-dev
[19:28] <t3ch_> hello all ubuntu dont want to read sdcard of kingston but on win7 read
[19:28] <t3ch_> anyone what to do
[19:28] <t3ch_> know?
[19:29] <slavix> how about this error message: configure: error: Can not find Bluetooth library - which package?
[19:32] <epicoder> I'm having a few problems upgrading precise > quantal. Is this the right channel to ask in or is there a more specific channel?
[19:34] <yeehaw> Anyone else that has Graphical artifacts with the latest fglrx drivers?
[19:34] <LoneTrooper> do u want to make major update i mean still having precise and turn it into quantal ? would it be easier to make fresh installation of 12.10?
[19:34] <LoneTrooper> ati or nvidia?
[19:35] <LoneTrooper> i use property drivers
[19:35] <LoneTrooper> in any case dont use open source driver its buggy and offers less performance
[19:36] <bekks> LoneTrooper: Which is entirely wrong.
[19:36] <LoneTrooper> u sure?
[19:37] <bekks> LoneTrooper: Yes.
[19:37] <LoneTrooper> i cant open source driver for example with opera browser the mouse pointer keeps blinking
[19:37] <LoneTrooper> thats for ati hd 6670
[19:38] <Eagleman7> What is a good way of importing iptable rules on reboot?
[19:38] <bekks> LoneTrooper: Closed source software is often even more buggy, and often even slower than open source drivers. Please dont generalize your personal problems witha specific driver to apply for every FOSS/closed source project. :)
[19:39] <LoneTrooper> not that i try to blame someone work omg
[19:39] <bekks> LoneTrooper: And your error just looks like you did something wrong when installing the driver.
[19:39] <LoneTrooper> by default open source driver is selected
[19:39] <LoneTrooper> how this can be messed up
[19:40] <bekks> LoneTrooper: By using a driver that doesnt support your hardware, e.g.
[19:40] <LoneTrooper> well that can be true
[19:41] <belgianguy> Eagleman7: nano /etc/network/interfaces
[19:41] <belgianguy> find line: iface lo inet loopback
[19:41] <Eagleman7> belgianguy, on Fedora there is a firewall applet that does this.
[19:41] <belgianguy> add this line after it: pre-up iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.up.rules
[19:42] <LoneTrooper> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu this is the good web page to help u instal amd ati drivers
[19:42] <LoneTrooper> it worked for me
[19:42] <belgianguy> Eagleman7: feel free to look for an app
[19:42] <MoPac> [Swap question]: Doing a new dual-boot 12.10 install with LUKS FDE. on SSD. Need hibernation. Considering swap file over partition to avoid repetitive password entry. Are there performance or other issues to worry about in using file rather than separate LUKS partition?
[19:44] <zykotick9> MoPac: you'll need to research if hibernate can use a swap "file"... i'm not sure it can.
[19:44] <MoPac> zykotick9: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1042946 indicates that it could
[19:44] <MoPac> But I'm wondering if it would be slower?
[19:44] <zykotick9> MoPac: ok.  glad you're aware then.
[19:44] <MoPac> Also, would using a swap partition wear out my SSD faster?
[19:46] <osmjames> Hi Im just trying to understand the organisation of linux/ubuntu. Interfaces and windows are drawn by Unity. Unity is a shell of GNOME. GNOME provides its own software development framework in which applications are built.. So what happens when I open an application built with KDE?
[19:46] <MoPac> There were some suggestions that writing to a partition rather than a file involved less kernel or filesystem overhead and so might be faster. If it's all the same, I prefer a file so I don't have to enter two partition passwords on every boot
[19:46] <belgianguy> I've recently become aware that my display manager poops itself when I close my laptop lid, is there anything I can do about that?
[19:46] <LoneTrooper> u can use any window environment u wish gnome kde xfce or lxde
[19:47] <Pici> !who
[19:47] <zykotick9> Pici: !who without a nick is kinda funny
[19:48] <jab416171> I have a file, /home/$USER/a/b/c.sh. If my wd is /home/$USER, and I type: vim a/b/c<TAB>, I get nothing. But if I do cd /home/$USER/a, then run vim b/c<TAB>, it auto completes to b/c.sh. I ran both tab completions with "set -x" so it spits out every line, and it's not obvious where the problem is.
[19:48] <meelu> daymn can't get ipv6 to work on my server still
[19:49] <zykotick9> jab416171: that sounds like am absolute vs relative paths issue?
[19:51] <zykotick9> jab416171: sorry, i re-read.  i don't know the cause of that.
[19:51] <MoPac> I'm using Cinnamon desktop with Nemo on 12.10.  It annoys me that windows are still often opened with Nautilus. If I sudo apt-get remove nautilus, would there be any unintended side-effects?
[19:53] <jab416171> https://gist.github.com/jab416171/4757053
[19:53] <jab416171> zykotick9: that's the difference between the two
[19:53] <brightknight> When piping output of a command to a text file from terminal how may I specify to append to an already existing text file?
[19:53] <escott> brightknight, >> not >
[19:54] <jhutchins_wk> jab416171: Try ./a...
[19:54] <brightknight> escott: very well
[19:54] <jhutchins_wk> jab416171: Also ~/a
[19:54] <jab416171> negative
[19:54] <tad-pole> liquidmetal: Still no luck?
[19:54] <jab416171> on both
[19:55] <jhutchins_wk> jab416171: Interesting.
[19:55] <skulltip> brightknight - pipe/appeand is easy..    cat text.file >> appended_output.txt
[19:56] <skulltip> doh.. slow reader
[19:56] <zlatan> hi...I can't scroll unity sidebar with mouse wheel for few days now...is that something implemented by ubuntu or an error
[19:57] <Neo31> hello folks, can somebody provide a link to ubuntu phone channel or developers ? a mailing list would be interesting too :) thanks
[19:57] <DJones> !phone | Neo31
[19:57] <jab416171> zlatan: mine doesn't scroll with my mouse wheel. How many icons are in your dock?
[19:58] <Neo31> thanks DJones and ubottu
[19:58] <zlatan> jab416171, 29 :O
[20:00] <jab416171> zlatan: that's a few. haha
[20:00] <zlatan> jab416171, so is it because so many launchers or what? :)
[20:01] <jab416171> I have no idea
[20:04] <niva> hi Duply version 1.5.5.4-1 and Duplicity version 0.6.18-0ubuntu3.1I am having this issue  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1637392/ in a backup using webdav and symmetric encryption
[20:04] <jab416171> jhutchins_wk: any other ideas?
[20:07] <niva> Do you think it might have to with their webdav implementation of the livedrive which I am using ?
[20:08] <zlatan> also how to get rid of mixed languages - I added another language and it was default but I switched back to English and erased that one but there are still mixed app names and other
[20:08] <antonio_> Aloha folks..
[20:09] <antonio_> I'm trying to figure out why I have no sound on my system...
[20:09] <antonio_> never mind..just got it working ;)
[20:09] <antonio_> thanks for the help! :D
[20:10] <fully_human> Antiga: Youre welcome, although I'm not sure what I did.
[20:10] <fully_human> Oops, wrong nick, wrong message. :P
[20:11] <niva> any ideas ?
[20:11] <pil> а как на русский канал зайти?
[20:12] <nomodeset> pil: wtf?
[20:12] <tad-pole> Russian I think.
[20:12] <nomodeset> tad-pole: lol
[20:12] <Dr_proX> <(
[20:13] <tad-pole> is there a ubuntu russian channel? thats what he asked
[20:13] <DJones> !ru
[20:14] <g105b> I know questions about ATI/AMD graphics get tossed around a lot, but I have an add problem - the proprietary drivers work fine for my dual monitor setup, but every time I boot the settings in amdcccle are reset to clone the displays. And ideas?
[20:16] <tad-pole> g105b: I use arandr    http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2
[20:17] <carldanley> is there a way to force add-apt-repository
[20:17] <carldanley> so it doesnt prompt for enter
[20:17] <carldanley> similar to --force-yes
[20:18] <Antiga> fully_human: Thank you for saying you're welcome, although I'm not sure what I did. ;)
[20:19] <fully_human> I was thanking someone else... :) Thank you for being yourself, I suppose.
[20:20] <trism> carldanley: -y
[20:21] <rexwin_> cannot create executables
[20:21] <rexwin_> while installing a package
[20:21] <zykotick9> rexwin_: i'm guessing s/installing a package/compile from source/
[20:22] <bekks> rexwin_: Whats the exact and full message you get when doing what exactly on which Ubuntu version in detail?
[20:23] <rexwin_> configure.sh: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[20:24] <rexwin_> Debian GNU/Linux testing/unstable \n \l
[20:24] <rexwin_> trying to install rsync from tar.gz
[20:26] <carldanley> trism: tyvm!
[20:26] <tad-pole> rexwin_ What link did you get the file from?
[20:27] <nOStahl> hi all, is there ubuntu channel for ubuntu phone?
[20:27] <kostkon> !phone | nOStahl
[20:28] <nOStahl> ah yt
[20:29] <escott> rexwin_, why would you do that?
[20:30] <rexwin_> tad-pole http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.9.tar.gz
[20:30] <rexwin_> escott, apt-get install rsync gives
[20:32] <rexwin_> http://pastebin.com/rA4J23VP
[20:32] <rexwin_> escott ^^
[20:34] <rasha666> did anyone tried Ubuntu Server. I want to try on my lap-top to check should i buy server to install ubuntu server. Suggestions?
[20:34] <tad-pole> rexwin_: Did you try "sudo apt-get -f install" and then "sudo apt-get update" then retry to install?
[20:34] <tad-pole> Rasha666 why would you want to run a server via your laptop?
[20:35] <rexwin_> tad-pole,  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:35] <rasha666> tad-pole, just to learn basics about running, after i will buy server and host there
[20:35] <tad-pole> rasha666: ubuntu server is great and very easy to use    you should try it then :0
[20:36] <charlton> OK, so I went on Ubuntu for the first time in months with the noble intention of updating my graphics card driver because the one I had (post-release updates) would crash my card every ~30mins and the current was even worse, and I tried installing the latest recommended from them (310.32) and ended up needing to go into emergency terminal. I tried fixing it by installing nvidia-current and nvidia-current-updates but in
[20:36] <charlton> everything but xcfe I now have no window manager... could I get some help?
[20:36] <buntubob> Hello I'm trying to find a solution seemingly simple problem.  I'm trying to use rename to change only the last character of filenames.
[20:36] <charlton> (sorry for wall
[20:36] <Kd3m0> found a solution into making linux run on Windows 8
[20:36] <rasha666> tad-pole, how many web sites can i set up on one server. i dont have much of a background in servers :)
[20:37] <tad-pole> rasha666 Depends on what your doing and what your hardware is, Google it with your specifications.
[20:37] <Pici> buntubob: something like this should just replace the last character of a file to 'r':  Use -n to test before you actually do it: rename 's/.$/r/' files*
[20:37] <fully_human> charlton: There are a few ways this can happen.  Firstly, open a terminal and type "ccsm" That's the Compiz control center.  Scroll down and you should see "Unity Plugin" Enable this.
[20:37] <rasha666> tad-pole, tnx for guidenes :)
[20:37] <buntubob> I'm trying now
[20:38] <tad-pole> rexwin_ That error msg was from what command?
[20:38] <fully_human> charlton:  Ah, didn't see your furst post...just a sec.
[20:38] <charlton> fully_human, I can't believe I forgot that, I guess I've been off for a while
[20:38] <arvendu> hello guys currenty i am using ubuntu and i want to install windows how can i do that using USB
[20:38] <fully_human> charlton: No problem. :-)
[20:39] <fully_human> If that doesn't help, you might just have to skip eyecandy and go for xfce. :-(
[20:39] <bekks> arvendu: Which Windows?
[20:39] <arvendu> 7
[20:39] <bekks> arvendu: You have to create a USB installation medium for doing it.
[20:40] <charlton> fully_human, Should I try that anyway? I think it's the driver, it was working before... (albeit crashing the GPU every once in a while)
[20:40] <buntubob> It didn't work?  Typo?
[20:40] <fully_human> charlton: yes, try the Unity plugin.
[20:40] <charlton> fully_human, it's enabled
[20:40] <arvendu> i did that using unetbootin but when i boot using usb it is just showing unetbootin and timer only counting 0 - 10 nothing else
[20:41] <bekks> arvendu: You cannot use unetbootin for doing it.
[20:41] <fully_human> You could also try installing jockey and then selecting your driver. DO NOT SELECT POST-RELEASE UPDATES.  You should select the recommended on.
[20:41] <fully_human> *one.
[20:41] <john_doe_jr> how do you determine how much disk space is left on an ubuntu machine?
[20:41] <arvendu> bekkas can tell me any guide plz
[20:41] <bekks> john_doe_jr: Just type "df -h" in a terminal.
[20:41] <zykotick9> john_doe_jr: "df -h" is one method.
[20:41] <fully_human> ^^char
[20:41] <fully_human> ^^ charlton
[20:42] <rasha666> arvendu, its recomended to install first windows, then linux.
[20:42] <bekks> arvendu: Sorry, I cant. But you can ask for those guides in ##windows
[20:42] <charlton> thanks, fully_human , I'll try that
[20:42] <buntubob> ok it did work.  thanks!  it was a typo on my part
[20:42] <dvanstone> i just installed and updated chrubuntu but i have a question on my date in the panel it shows monday in the system log viewer it is showing tuesday the 11 any idea how i can correct this ?
[20:42] <buntubob> i needed to cut n paste
[20:42] <arvendu> k thanks bekks
[20:42] <fully_human> charlton: No problem. Hope it works. I know with most video cards, it's hit and miss. C'mon NVIDIA, get with the program!
[20:43] <ozcanesen> is it possible to get stdout stderr from /proc driectory?
[20:45] <charlton> fully_human, is there a way to switch between drivers in the additional-drivers pane from terminal?
[20:46] <fully_human> charlton: Oh, wait, there's not Jockey GUI, is there?
[20:46] <guenhael> bonjour
[20:46] <guenhael> j'aurais besoin d'un peu d'aide
[20:47] <DJones> !fr | guenhael
[20:47] <guenhael> Hello
[20:47] <guenhael> yes sorry I just noticed it
[20:47] <charlton> fully_human, that's what I understood additional-drivers to be
[20:47] <guenhael> so, I need some help to configure a VPN server
[20:47] <guenhael> I know how to do it by the GUI
[20:48] <guenhael> but I would like to write a script able to do it automatically
[20:48] <john_doe_jr> how do you list the size of a certain folder
[20:48] <fully_human> charlton: It's now under software-properties-gtk.
[20:48] <guenhael> since I work a lot with virtual machines
[20:48] <fully_human> charlton: There's a tab called "additional drivers."
[20:48] <nullby7e> how can i use geforce 650ti with latest ubuntu?
[20:48] <zykotick9> john_doe_jr: "du -sh /path/to/directory"
[20:48] <guenhael> does anyone can help me or propose me a link to learn how to do this?
[20:49] <zykotick9> guenhael: there is a text mode jockey that can do what you want.  don't ask me though.
[20:49] <joshu> I'm trying to get my Huawei E3276 usb modem working on ubuntu desktop 12.04 with the help of this link https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/211095 but I can get it to connect
[20:50] <guenhael> what's a text mode jockey?
[20:50] <katy_> hello can someone please help me? I installed the nvidia driver on mt macbook pro and now the backlight doens't turn on.
[20:50] <charlton> fully_human, I get that... how can one do terminal-based changes though, if it needs changing without gui available? It seems like it should be accessible from terminal, given how prone it is to being the thing that destroys your gui...
[20:50] <zykotick9> guenhael: jockey is the additional hardware thing.  try "jockey<TAB>" in a terminal
[20:51] <fully_human> charlton: Ah, I see. I'm not sure...I'll look into it.
[20:51] <guenhael> I really don't understand sorry
[20:52] <charlton> fully_human, zykotick9 gave me the needed clue: it's jockey-text
[20:53] <bluezone> This question is going to be random. I feel like everytime i click and drag windows the movement animation is scratchy/notVerySmooth compared to the type of smoothness i'm used to in windows, is this a simple v-sync problem or is it more complex like a poor video card drivers?
[20:53] <fully_human> charlton: Well, there are several options to jockey-text.  If you do "jockey-text --help" there are several options for listing, etc.
[20:53] <fully_human> bluezone: Have you installed the proprietary drivers from software-properties-gtk?
[20:54] <zykotick9> charlton: so sorry, i meant to be using your nick, not guenhael's.  guenhael sorry.
[20:54] <charlton> fully_human, thanks. I now have the confidence to try, and know at least how to revert it. :)
[20:54] <bluezone> software-properties-gtk, is that the same as using jockey-gtk (additional drivers) ? fully_human
[20:54] <fully_human> bluezone: Yes. Jockey's gone and now it's software-properties-gtk.
[20:55] <fully_human> (well, technically, jockey-text is stilla round).
[20:55] <ericosuave> anyone know if there is a way to edit the crontab binary? im trying to make it execute an svn commit on :wq after ive done a crontab -e
[20:55] <charlton> zykotick9, No prob. I'm sure it confused guenhael a little, but it sure helped me. :)
[20:55] <katy_> Hello, does anyone know a solution for this problem: My macbook Pro boots to an all black screen ever since i installed the nvidia driver.
[20:56] <guenhael> no problem
[20:56] <guenhael> but is there anyone who can help me then?
[20:56] <bluezone> fully_human, if it's the same thing, yes i have and i've tried the beta one too it's still the same issue; it's not very noticeable but i feel like it can be fixed
[20:56] <sw> hi. how can I strip just the package names from a list like this: http://pastebin.com/X3L0jDCc, and also list them all on one single line?
[20:56] <bekks> ericosuave: Edit the source code, recompile it. Or write a wrapper script.
[20:57] <Martinjo84> Good evning :D
[20:57] <LaserShark> even'
[20:57] <LaserShark> evenin'
[20:57] <unheedin1> eveninin'
[20:57] <sw> hi. how can I strip just the package names from a list like this: http://pastebin.com/X3L0jDCc, and also list them all on one single line?
[20:57] <ericosuave> hmm thx bekks
[20:58] <Martinjo84> Just testing irssi :D
[20:58] <Martinjo84> wonder if there is a cmd that turn of QUIT Message
[20:58] <Pici> !quietirssi | Martinjo84
[20:59] <Martinjo84> ubottu: thx :D
[21:00] <katy_> is anyone knowlegable on MacBook Pro Nvidia driver issues. I'm totally stuck?
[21:01] <zlatan> gnome-tweak-tool doesn't work http://paste.ubuntu.com/1637563/? Any help?
[21:01] <r> test
[21:01] <trism> sw: something like: cut -f4 -d' ' filename | tr '\n' ' '; perhaps
[21:02] <_helios_> I been trying to use Testdrive to run 13.04 not having any luck any suggestions?
[21:03] <_helios_> It boots up shows the beginning screen than just sits there with a blinking cursor nothing loads
[21:04] <katy_> hello. this is the ubuntu support channel, right?
[21:04] <ShukkoO> !topic
[21:05] <r__> test
[21:05] <r__> test
[21:05] <tgm4883> !test
[21:08] <fairuz_> Hi guys. Ubuntu phone and Ubuntu for Androidare two diferent things right?
[21:08] <fairuz_> *Android are
[21:08] <unheedin1> fairuz_: yes, ubuntu phone is a different OS than Android
[21:10] <charlton> thanks, fully_human. I got the recommended one and it went to emergency console, but I enabled post-release-updates from there and am now in a fully working desktop session once again.
[21:10] <fully_human> charlton: No problem. :)
[21:11] <fairuz_> unheedin1: I mean Ubuntu used in Ubuntu phones are they different from the one used in Ubuntu for Android? (in term of UI etc)
[21:11] <Romme> how do i read a Maildir in console?
[21:12] <zykotick9> Romme: try "mail"
[21:12] <Romme> it reads mbox
[21:13] <zykotick9> Romme: true.  sorry.
[21:16] <katy_> can someone please confirm for me if my messagesare visable o you?
[21:16] <joshu> i just tried using wvdial and sudo wvdialconf with my usb modem e3276 and it doesn't detect it. Any ideas?
[21:16] <joshu> yes katy_ I can see youre messages
[21:16] <LantzR> katy_ I see you
[21:17] <zefuros> hello there , can somebody help me? i need someone with big expirience on booting issues
[21:17] <katy_> thanks
[21:18] <dvanstone>  is the a way to force use of ip4
[21:18] <zefuros> anyone here who can help me with ubuntu/windows booting issues?
[21:19] <LantzR> zefuros: maybe ...
[21:19] <mapmaz> ok
[21:19] <devslash> What's the path to the Linux headers
[21:19] <mapmaz> good , now give....
[21:20] <mapmaz> okokokokokokokoko hi there
[21:20] <mapmaz> hello
[21:20] <zefuros> lantzr: hey mate thanks for answering. Look i had windows 8 on my ssd drive and now i installed ubuntu on my hdd drive. the problem is even that grub sees my windows 8 loader when i try to boot it it restarts the system, any ideas? (note both ubuntu windows 8 are 64bit versions if it matters)
[21:20] <boikhutso> hello people, im new here and i want to joing the C channel, how do i go about it?
[21:21] <SonikkuAmerica> /join #c
[21:22] <zefuros> lantzr: any ideas?
[21:22] <LantzR> devslash: I do not have em on this machibe. use aptitude , search for linux header package, look at installed files
[21:25] <zefuros> i need help her
[21:26] <LantzR> zefuros: um not sure. I've wrestled with grub ... a lot. One thought is this tool that has _saved_ me before. It's smart about grub. https://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/
[21:26] <zykotick9> Romme: did you see list of support clients at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maildir ?  PS. asking in #d when #u doesn't answer - not cool.
[21:27] <zefuros> lantzr: i see this tool a lot but not sure what it can do, do you have the kindness to explain me here or in private what it can do so i can see if it can solve my problem?
[21:30] <marjinal1st> how can i query the quota of my 3G account in ubuntu 12.10?
[21:32] <marjinal1st> asking again; how can i query the quota of my 3G account in ubuntu 12.10?
[21:33] <KI4RO> marjinal1st, It might take more than 2 minutes for someone that knows to answer...be patient
[21:33] <nearst> hi ppl
[21:36] <KI4RO> .
[21:36] <joshu> marjinal1st have a look at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/164377/how-to-check-data-usage-of-a-usb-datacard-on-ubuntu
[21:36] <joshu> I haven't tested it myself but I was researching the same as you and will need it as soon as I get my usb modem working
[21:38] <bradlee> gold
[21:39] <katy> Hello, i am unable to get my MacBook pro to work with the nvidia driver. Can someone please help
[21:39] <katy> ?
[21:39] <katy> I currently can only boot to a black screen
[21:40] <nearst> i confuse, my sis lappy shows "count not open library/2.6.38/modules.dep" but ls -al /lib/modules show 3.5.0-17-generic
[21:40] <marjinal1st> joshu, I've installed and run that program. it says that "ppp0: Not enough data available yet." Actually,  I'm using my 3G connection at this moment.
[21:40] <histo> katy: From an install boot to a black screen?
[21:40] <nkls> someone have problem in firefox with scrolling? i mean.. for me is not smooth. any advice?
[21:40] <nkls> i look at the solution and nobody knows, is it a bug?
[21:41] <histo> nkls: Do you have proper video drivers installed. I've noticed slow downs with the open source versioins.
[21:41] <madprops> how come there is no libgtk3.0-dev in 12.10 64 ?
[21:41] <nkls> histo, i have current nvidia
[21:41] <katy> histro: so no i instal ubuntu 12.10 and it works fine. then I go to install the nvidia driver. after i reboot. i get the black screeen. I am currently connect to my macbook pro via ssh though.
[21:41] <joshu> marjinal1st hopefully it will work after a while
[21:41] <nkls> btw i have ubuntu 10.04
[21:42] <marjinal1st> I'll try, thanks for your help :)
[21:42] <nkls> histo, you dont have that problem with firefox?
[21:42] <histo> katy: Which nvidia driver did you install?  Also which chipset do you have?  if you type in lspci  it should show you the chipset you have for VGA
[21:42] <histo> nkls: I use chrome or chromium here mostly but I did not notice that issue when I had ff
[21:43] <nkls> oh..
[21:43] <histo> nkls: Just check ff no issues
[21:43] <histo> s/check/checked/
[21:43] <katy> histro: i believe i ran sudo apt-get install nvidia-current. I have the GeForce GT330M card. That last bit was a little over my head, what do you mean?
[21:43] <nkls> i have only problems with linux!
[21:43] <histo> katy: let me check something
[21:44] <katy> histro: ok
[21:44] <joshu> marjinal1st this link might be useful as well http://askubuntu.com/questions/164377/how-to-check-data-usage-of-a-usb-datacard-on-ubuntu
[21:45] <katy> histro: paste.ubuntu.com/1637727/
[21:45] <DaemonicApathy> nkls: I'd probably suggest upgrading Ubuntu.
[21:45] <trism> madprops: it is libgtk-3-dev
[21:45] <histo> katy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/228592/blank-screen-at-boot-ubuntu-12-04-nvidia-current-macbook-air-3-2
[21:45] <nkls> DaemonicApathy, you mean.. 12.04 or 12.10?
[21:46] <DaemonicApathy> 12.04, if you like to keep them for that long.
[21:46] <histo> nkls: What version are you running?
[21:46] <nkls> version of ubuntu?
[21:46] <histo> yes
[21:46] <nkls> or firefox?
[21:46] <DaemonicApathy> nkls Ubuntu.
[21:46] <histo> no
[21:46] <nkls> 10.04
[21:47] <nkls> everybody on the internet have that issue about scrolling
[21:47] <ffunenga> hello, can somebody help me? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/64468/how-do-i-install-libgtk-3-dev-in-elementaryos
[21:47] <katy> histro: so just run this cmd "apt-get install grub-pc"?
[21:47] <nkls>  it's very choppy/laggish/not smooth at all.
[21:48] <histo> nkls: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/566412
[21:48]  * DaemonicApathy has no problems with scrolling in Firefox.
[21:48] <nkls> omg.. and that bug is still here!! no way!
[21:49] <fuzzybunny> hello?
[21:49] <histo> katy: yes if you have network access
[21:49] <histo> katy: otherwise you'd have to boot to install disk and chroot then run it.
[21:50] <katy> histro: ok now "sudo reboot" + cross fingers?
[21:50] <histo> nkls: I don't know if the bug is still active. It may have renewed itself with a recent update. Try disabling javascript and see if that fixes the issue like people there have suggested.
[21:50] <histo> katy: Yes.
[21:50] <nkls> histo, i will disabling javascript in the firefox or synaptic?
[21:50] <nkls> histo, btw thanks!
[21:51] <nkls> also, thanks to everybody
[21:51] <histo> nkls: in firefox.
[21:51] <histo> nkls: Also if you can't find answers here, you can try askubuntu.com or searchign the forums, or bug reports.
[21:52] <crats> Anyone know of some good tutorial on how to change the window manager?
[21:52] <histo> fuzzybunny: hello
[21:53] <histo> !notunity | crats
[21:53] <katy> histo: it didnt work. just booted to a black screen again
[21:53] <marjinal1st> joshu, I've found a nice application for that. http://linuxonly.ru/cms/page.php?7 again thanks for your help :)
[21:53] <fuzzybunny> hey i'm just checking out the irc chat is all thx for the reply!
[21:54] <histo> katy: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:54] <crats> i use xubuntu but was hoping to change the wm to awm
[21:55] <histo> crats: ahh check in #xubuntu
[21:55] <joshu> marjinal1st is that link for getting my modem working?
[21:55] <datarecall_> hey guys i have ubuntu desktop installed, and I am trying to get my secondary graphics card working, it seems to be working but screens are both grey, cant access them etc.  Here is my xorg.conf : http://paste2.org/p/2849855
[21:55] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1637755/
[21:55] <histo> katy: also do you get a login prompt or anything if you hit ctrl+alt+F1
[21:56] <histo> katy: weren't you the person this morning that was having a problem with backlight?
[21:56] <joshu> I've started a question about my modem trouble on askubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/253965/cant-connect-huawei-e3276-on-ubuntu-desktop-12-04
[21:56] <histo> !twinview | datarecall_
[21:57] <katy> histro: (i think its fn+option/alt+command+f1) and no it does nothing
[21:57] <marjinal1st> nope, I think it's for managing mobile modems.
[21:57] <histo> katy: Has it ever booted on this machine?
[21:57] <katy> histro: well it was last night for me :) but that sounds right
[21:57] <datarecall_> histo, i tried twinview for all 4 monitors and it still has the same issue
[21:57] <histo> katy: How'd you fix that earlier issue with backlight.
[21:57] <katy> histro: yes before i installed the nvidia driver
[21:58] <datarecall_> let me reset it back to twinview brb
[21:58] <katy> histro: i dont believe we did... same issue'
[21:58] <jhutchins_wk> katy: It may be a problem with the framebuffer.
[21:58] <jhutchins_wk> !kms
[21:58] <katy> histo: syntroPi and i worked on it for several hours but we eventually hung it up...
[21:58] <jhutchins_wk> !framebuffer
[21:59] <histo> katy: It appears X is booting fine according to your logs.
what is framebuffer
[21:59] <t3ch> anyone know what to do with this micro sdcard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12504790#post12504790
[21:59] <crats> does anyone here have experience with x?
[21:59] <jhutchins_wk> katy: I think you want to boot with the nofb option, but I'm not sure of the exact option in the current kernel.
[21:59] <histo> katy: So it boots fine without the nvidia-current driver right?
[22:00] <histo> !anyone | crats
[22:00] <katy> histro: yes before i install the nvidia driver. it boots fine
[22:00] <jhutchins_wk> katy: It is a low-level graphics system used by newer cards.  Allows more manipulation of the non-GUI screen and is used by the advanced GUI drivers.
[22:00] <histo> crats: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[22:00] <t3ch> do i need woman nick so someone will unswer
[22:00] <t3ch> help here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12504790#post12504790
got it. but i can still acces my MacBook Pro from ssh. so thats not really the issue right now, is it?
[22:01] <jhutchins_wk> t3ch: No, you need to ask a real question, or summarize your problem, with details.
[22:01] <datarecall_> http://paste2.org/p/2849877 is the xorg.conf generated by nvidia-settings the screens are on just pure grey
[22:01] <katy> histro: does that mean it's just a backlight issue?
[22:01] <t3ch> here you have details http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12504790#post12504790
[22:02] <histo> katy: It sounds that way to me but i'm searching right now for other people having the same issue. Being a macbook i'm sure someone would have reported it.
[22:02] <jhutchins_wk> t3ch: Are you trying to partition the sd card?
[22:02] <maria> Hi, Does anybody know how can I change some pictures to PDF?
[22:02] <katy> histo: ok cool
[22:02] <t3ch> to mount it will be good
[22:02] <t3ch> :)
[22:02] <katy> histo: its a macbook pro 6,2
[22:02] <jhutchins_wk> maria: imagemagick or gimp.
[22:02] <tad-pole> maria: google fileformat to pdf conversion :P
[22:03] <maria> jhutchins_wk: Can I use a command to invert them?
[22:03] <jhutchins_wk> t3ch: look at the output of dmesg after you insert the card.  It should tell you what storage device was created.
[22:03] <rasha666> how can i get original cd-s from first ubuntu version?
[22:04] <t3ch> i have post dmesg of that when u instert the card
[22:04] <t3ch> if you check the post you see
[22:04] <jhutchins_wk> t3ch: Generally if the system is working correctly your GUI should mount it automatically, so we suspect the reader might not be happy with linux.
[22:04] <t3ch> i know that have tryed with other card and it work
[22:04] <t3ch> but with that micro it dont
[22:04] <t3ch> only with win7 work
[22:04] <datarecall_> could the position be wrong somehow histo ?
[22:05] <rasha666> how can i get original cd-s from first ubuntu version?
[22:05] <histo> katy: is there a key to switch output screens like from external to internal?  Like fn+F1-F12  ??
[22:05] <jhutchins_wk> t3ch: The portion of the output you posted is not useful.
[22:05] <jhutchins_wk> !repeat
[22:05] <t3ch> what is portion
[22:05] <t3ch> /dev/mmc ?
[22:05] <Aaronds> Hi, why is it that useradd <username> doesn't create a home directory?
[22:05] <histo> datarecall_: I'm not two familiar with dualhead setups
[22:05] <katy> histo: like the dimmer and brightener buttons? f1 anf f2
[22:06] <jrib> Aaronds: use "adduser" instead
[22:06] <katy> histo: usually on the mac you just hit f1 or f2 without function to change the screen brightness
[22:06] <Aaronds> ah my bad
[22:06] <Aaronds> cheers jrib
[22:06] <jrib> Aaronds: useradd is more low-level
[22:06] <t3ch> you meen that dmesg is not useful
[22:06] <t3ch> i know that
[22:06] <t3ch> :)
[22:06] <t3ch> google dont find nothing useful yes
[22:06] <t3ch> :]
[22:06] <FloodBot1> t3ch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:07] <katy> p201: wondering if you've had any new ideas for how to fix the backlight issue on my macbook pro?
[22:08] <BluesKaj> t3ch, what does sudo fdisk -l output , psatebin it please ?
[22:08] <katy> histo: so i tried f2 and fn+f2. nothing changed...
[22:08] <t3ch> only sda* disks that is my hdd
[22:09] <t3ch> blueskaj sda1-6
[22:09] <t3ch> nothing useful again
[22:09] <p201> katy, sorry, but I can only google for you - never used linux on macbook myself.
[22:09] <t3ch> maybe i need to buy new sdcard for ubuntu
[22:10] <histo> katy: shit+cntrl + eject
[22:10] <katy> p201, no worries. thx for all the help you gave me last nigh!
[22:10] <tad-pole> t3ch maybe reformat it on windows?
[22:10] <histo> katy: then try esc if that doesn't work
[22:10] <histo> brb
[22:10] <BluesKaj> t3ch,  sudo mount /dev/sda6
[22:11] <t3ch> ya i have tryed but when i have install some image for raspberrypi it creates some partitions and now it dont go to delete them
[22:11] <t3ch> bloeskaj :)
[22:11] <h-tech> hello leet haxxors
[22:11] <p201> katy no problem
[22:11] <BluesKaj> t3ch, ??
[22:11] <h-tech> how do i print debug info from a software within ubuntu?
[22:12] <t3ch> sda is my hdd
[22:12] <katy_> histo: so i treid crtl+shift+eject, nothing. escape, nothing. crtl+shift+escape, nothing
[22:13] <t3ch> no no, i see noone have that micro sdcard and use ubuntu... will try buy new one from other company
[22:13] <t3ch> :)
[22:13] <t3ch> tnx anyway
[22:13] <BluesKaj> t3ch,what does fdisk -l show for the sd card ?
[22:13] <h-tech> \list
[22:14] <h-tech> \join #developer
[22:14] <h-tech> any ubuntu developer irc channel?
[22:14] <gmulak> t3ch:  So you need an SD card?
[22:14] <BluesKaj>  /join  , h-tech
[22:14] <h-tech> BlueEagle, thanks
[22:14] <OerHeks> h-tech, apport-retrace ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[22:15] <BluesKaj> h-tech, /join #ubuntu-devel
[22:15] <h-tech> BlueEagle, ty so much
[22:15] <BluesKaj> yeah , ok
[22:15] <OerHeks> good start > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures
[22:16] <gmulak> philipballew:  Did you get my earlier e-mail about Monitor and funds?
[22:16] <h-tech> great tips guys, (un)fortunately my gf is calling me to bed. so have to check this out tomorrow
[22:16] <h-tech> have a great night
[22:17] <katy_> histo: back?
[22:17] <histo> katy_: yeah
[22:18] <histo> katy_: I'm not seeing anyone with this issue.  Which nvidia driver did you install?
[22:18] <histo> katy_: Also do you get a splash screen at all while it's booting?
[22:18] <katy_> histo: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[22:19] <histo> katy_: alright to get back to the regular drivers sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current
[22:19] <histo> katy_: then reboot
[22:19] <katy_> histo: yes this is the sequence. boot to grub>select "Ubuntu"> purple screen> ubuntu logo 5 dot> black screen
[22:20] <zefuros> can someone here help me use gparted to create a bios partition?
[22:20] <katy_> histro: ok ill do that now. ultimatly though i really want to get the proprietary driver working.
[22:20] <histo> katy_: Okay then dont'
[22:20] <LoneTrooper> i can help u
[22:20] <histo> katy_: Did you try and pass backlight options to the kernel?
[22:20] <ejv> what's a bios partition lol
[22:20] <LoneTrooper> get ultimate bood cd
[22:21] <LoneTrooper> ill give u  a link w8
[22:21] <zefuros> lonetrooper: are you reffering to me?
[22:21] <tgm4883> !who | LoneTrooper
[22:21] <LoneTrooper> www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[22:21] <POVaddct> ejv: read the wikipedia article about efi/uefi
[22:21] <katy_> histro: what is the backlight option?
[22:21] <katy_> histro: like what is the grub cmd?
[22:21] <LoneTrooper> no hes looking to resize partitions
[22:21] <LoneTrooper> here
[22:22] <nearst> sup ppl
[22:22] <LoneTrooper> go and download that iso its a compilation of dos programs
[22:22] <histo> katy_: sudo nano /etc/default/grub   to edit grubs config.
[22:22] <LoneTrooper> that package include programs for resizing hdd
[22:23] <katy_> histro: so this is something im gonna do from cmd prompt not the grub menu?>
[22:23] <histo> katy_: on the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT add acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=legacy   at the end inside the quotes
[22:23] <histo> katy_: yes
[22:24] <histo> katy_: or you can try from the grub menu but I can't remember the key to add kernel arguments atm
[22:24] <katy_> histo: ok one sec my ssh got disconnect.
[22:24] <zefuros> lonetrooper: ok with all these but my problem is that i try to run boot-repair and it says i must create a bios partitation , do you know how i can achieve that?
[22:24] <LoneTrooper> yes
[22:24] <nearst> ?
[22:24] <histo> katy_: Get to the grub menu and press e
[22:24] <LoneTrooper> www.ultimatebootcd.com/ just go there and download iso and burn it
[22:25] <LoneTrooper> or i think u can place it on usb and make it bootable
[22:25] <zefuros> lonetrooper wouldnt it be easier to make it with gparted inside of ubuntu?
[22:25] <LoneTrooper> that cd image contain a lot of dos programs
[22:25] <LoneTrooper> well if that suits u
[22:25] <philipballew> gmulak, I sent you a pm
[22:26] <nearst> http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/11/how-to-boot-iso-file-from-your-hard.html
[22:26] <LoneTrooper> like i said that cd contains a lot of dos programs including for hard drive
[22:26] <zefuros> lonetrooper: yeah cause that way i will hav guidance
[22:26] <LoneTrooper> kk
[22:26] <katy_> histo: ok. so add acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=legacy to the line that starts with "linux" but there are not quotes like u said above?
[22:26] <zefuros> lonetrooper: but how can i make this using gparted do you know this?
[22:27] <histo> katy_: added the line in what the grub menu or the /etc/default/grub file?
[22:27] <LoneTrooper> http://www.hirensbootcd.org/files/Hirens.BootCD.15.2.zip this is even better cd image of dos programs
[22:27] <histo> zefuros: what are you trying to do?
[22:27] <katy_> well i havcent done either yet. im abount to add the line in the grub boot options "menu" . is that what you want me to do?
[22:27] <LoneTrooper> using that linux program well nope im afraid
[22:28] <histo> katy_: yes.
[22:28] <histo> katy_: if you are doing it there there are no quotes
[22:28] <katy_> histo, got it. ok i added both. now im gonna boot
[22:28] <histo> zefuros: What are you talking about a bios partition?
[22:28] <zefuros> histo: thanks for the reply i will take it from the start. I installed ubuntu on a windows 8 system on different drive and now i cant boot windows 8 from grub, it shows windows 8 loader but it restarts when i try to boot
[22:29] <histo> katy_: you should be able to press enter to boot.
[22:29] <katy_> histo, i think its f10 on mac
[22:30] <histo> katy_: I'm confused now are you editing the /etc/default/grub file or are you editing the kernel line at the grub menu?
[22:30] <zefuros> histo: searching for solution they encouraged me to use the boot-repair , but running boot-repair it asks if sdb1 is removable and i press no and then it says gpt  detected create a bios-boot partition
[22:30] <katy_> histo,kernel line at the grub menu
[22:30] <histo> katy_: okay well try those two options and boot
[22:31] <katy_> histo, just did it. and its booting to a alll purple screen. no ubuntu logo. no black screen
[22:31] <LoneTrooper> well in most cases installing 2 operating system on 1 partition will cause problems each os should be on separate partition
[22:31] <zefuros> histo: oh i think i understand now what it needs give me a minute
[22:32] <histo> zefuros: What version of ubuntu were you trying to install?
[22:32] <histo> katy_: is it still at purple screen?
[22:33] <fowger> hello guys
[22:33] <katy_> histo: still purple
[22:33] <histo> katy_: ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a tty
[22:33] <zefuros> histo: 12.04
[22:34] <histo> zefuros: Sounds like you have a UEFI system and you need to probably use 12.10 64bit
[22:34] <histo> !efi | zefuros
[22:34] <katy_> histo: im pretty sure its fn+alt/ption+command+f1 on mac and it didnt work. still purple screen.
[22:34] <histo> !uefi | zefuros
[22:35] <histo> katy_: does a mac have a cntrl key?
[22:35] <h00k> .11
[22:35] <fowger> no
[22:36] <katy_> histo: yes it does. i tried ctrl+alt+f1 too it didnt work
[22:36] <histo> katy_: Okay this is really bizaare I have no idea why installing nvidia drivers would mess with your backlight but that's what sounds like is happening to me. The nvidia module is loading and disabling the backlight somehow. But this is just a guess without actually seeing the hardware.
[22:36] <zefuros> histo: sorry for not mentioning i installed 12.04 64 bit
[22:36] <histo> zefuros: Yeah did you check out the information from ubottu
[22:37] <histo> katy_: I would sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current   reboot and make sure X works. Then I would probably try udpated drivers from nvidia.com
[22:37] <katy_> histo: so do i need to change the module?
[22:37] <katy_> histo: ok
[22:37] <histo> katy_: Start with removing nvidia-current and get back to a working display
[22:38] <katy_> histo: FYi, i just booted with no change to the grub menu. and it is still just a purple screen. no black screen any more.... anyway im gonna boot to recovery and try to purge nvidia from there.
[22:39] <histo> katy_: Well how did this change happen? Then. It was booting to a black screen no it's booting to a purple screen?
[22:39] <zefuros> histo: yeah and thanks to that i tried to instal ubuntu on efi mode and after that i got a desktop not able to boot anything
[22:40] <katy_> histo: curious indeed. the only change we made to the system was this "apt-get install grub-pc" right?
[22:40] <histo> zefuros: That page advises you to use 12.10 yet you are using 12.04
[22:40] <zefuros> histo: till i changed my hdd system to ahcp and it was able to load my usb
[22:40] <histo> katy_: right.
[22:41] <zefuros> histo: you all say me im in uefi mode how you know that?
[22:41] <katy_> histo: ok well. im gonna purge nvidia now and ill tell you what happens
[22:41] <histo> katy_: I would still proceed remove nvidia-current see if you get X back if not... remove grub-pc see if it works itself out.
[22:41] <histo> katy_: then we can figure out which is the problem depending on what you remove
[22:41] <histo> zefuros: Are you not in uefi mode?
[22:42] <zefuros> histo: how can i know that?
[22:42] <zefuros> histo: first of all make some things clear for me uefi is same with EFI?
[22:43] <katy_> hirsto: i get this error "Unable to write to /va/cache/apt/"  I know there is a command that will give me writing privelges, do you know it. i know it enloves '-o' :)
[22:44] <nearst> !nvidia
[22:44] <histo> zefuros: yes
[22:44] <katy> does anyone know the command that gives me writing priveleges when in recovery mode?
[22:45] <histo> katy: sudo
[22:45] <histo> katy: Oh why areyou in recovery mode now?
[22:45] <katy> histo yes.
[22:45] <zefuros> histo: and how can i know if i am in this mode?
[22:45] <katy> histo, i cant seem to ssh, so i just boot to recovery.
[22:46] <katy> histo: like i said above i know the command conatins '-o' if that helps at all
[22:46] <nearst> u cant ssh bcoz recovery mode not run into network mode. try sudo service network start and check your networking for ssh
[22:47] <zefuros> katy: i was told this command today while trying to edit 40_custom let me find it for you
[22:47] <histo> katy: mount -o rw,remount /
[22:47] <histo> zefuros: Is this a new system that came with windows 8?
[22:48] <katy> histo: thats it! purging now.
[22:49] <zefuros> histo: nope its a desktop i built and i installed windows 7 then updated to windows 8 and then installed ubuntu 12.10. But due driver issues i installed 12.04 but i accidentaly deleted the partition of previous ubuntu as result losing the grub and i used live cd to restore it , and now i cant boot windows 8
[22:50] <histo> zefuros: So the menu entry for windows 8 needs to be added
[22:50] <histo> !grub2 | zefuros
[22:50] <martinalex> zefuros: you did try a manual "update-grub"?
[22:50] <katy> hiisto: so it boots to grub. then the purple sscreen. then the purple screen turns black/purple pixelated. and it seems to be frozen there
[22:51] <histo> katy: okay purge grub-pc
[22:51] <histo> katy: What version of ubuntu is this btw?
[22:51] <zefuros> histo: grub has windows 8 entry but when i try to boot it restarts my system
[22:52] <histo> zefuros: I don't know at this time why that is. Perhaps someone else can chime in I don't use windows at all.
[22:52] <katy> histo: 12.1
[22:52] <histo> katy: 64bit?
[22:52] <zefuros> martinalex: yes i tried used update-grub but the same i have the entry of windows 8 loader but if i boot it restarrts again
[22:52] <katy> yes
[22:52] <histo> katy: I have to go for a bit but try and purge grub-pc remember someone had you add that. Then see if you can boot again since we also removed the nvidia-current driver.
[22:53] <zefuros> martinalex: got any idea how i cant make my windows 8 loader boot again?
[22:53] <katy> histo: ok
[22:53] <katy> thx
[22:54] <martinalex> zefuros: not really, my solution always was to get a running linux instance to call update-grub...
[22:55] <ufsu> I used to add a program by the following commands mv /filename /etc/init.d/; chmod +x /etc/init.d/filename; update-rc.d filename defaults   .... now I want to remove the program on the startup. I removed the directory on the /etc/init.d directory. how will fix  update-rc.d file?
[22:55] <zefuros> martinalex: are you familiar with boot-repair?
[22:55] <martinalex> zefuros: no, sorry
[22:55] <LoneTrooper> can i give u universal tip for all of u? instead looking for solution or repairing operation system its faster to make fresh installation but make backup of all your files 1st
[22:55] <katy> histo: that didn't work. well i mean itunistalled grub so now its unbootable...
[22:56] <FLeiXiuS> Every time I remaster my disk with genisoimage I consistently get stopped at 'starting cups'
[22:56] <FLeiXiuS> every remake.
[22:56] <zefuros> lonetrooper: how can we make backups of windows 8 files when we dont have access to the OS?
[22:56] <LoneTrooper> oh its easy
[22:56] <LoneTrooper> look i told u
[22:57] <LoneTrooper> http://www.hirensbootcd.org/files/Hirens.BootCD.15.2.zip here
[22:57] <LoneTrooper> burn this image
[22:57] <LoneTrooper> it contains mini windows xp
[22:57] <LoneTrooper> u can browse ntfs fat 32 partitions no problems
[22:57] <ctmjr> .
[22:58] <LoneTrooper> u can put it on usb stick and make it bootable too
[22:58] <OerHeks> hirens is illegal, please do not suggest or spread that please.
[22:58] <zefuros> lonetrooper: ok smart one . and how can i backup 350gb of work documents on total available space of 220gb?
[22:58] <LoneTrooper> well i wasnt expecting that data u to have
[22:59] <giiker> hello everyon
[22:59] <giiker> can't remote control box thoughr Vinagre or Remmina, any thoughts anyone
[22:59] <LoneTrooper> well if u have windows 8 instalation dvd u can choose option repair
[22:59] <LoneTrooper> and keeping your files
[22:59] <joshu> how can I check if I've got this patch on my ubuntu desktop install https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/211095?
[23:00] <zefuros> lonetrooper: its obvious easier to me to backup my files and reinstall windows than trying to find solution 2 days now on a irc chat , but since i dont have the space i must fix my Operating  System
[23:00] <LoneTrooper> and keep all of your files
[23:00] <LoneTrooper> yeh but theres other solution to get external usb hard drive but that costs
[23:01] <ufsu> how can I remove a program from the start up?
[23:01] <zefuros> lonetrooper: my windows 8 licence is update only that means i must always fresh install windows 7 and then update to 8 i dont have the right to fresh install windows 8, exept if windows 7 live disc can repair my windows 8 mbr
[23:01] <jrib> ufsu: what program?
[23:02] <zefuros> lonetrooper: i try to save my work documents and unfortunately i dont have money for solutions that costs elsewhere again i would stuck on a irc chat
[23:02] <LoneTrooper> oh so that complicates things
[23:02] <zefuros> lonetrooper: but you would help a lot answering this
[23:03] <ufsu> jrib: I added a program long before by "mv /filename /etc/init.d/; chmod +x /etc/init.d/filename; update-rc.d filename defaults" .. I removed the  /etc/init.d/filename directory. what do I need to do with update-rc.d  file?
[23:03] <zefuros> lonetrooper: i have the right like everyone to download a windows 8 iso file wich is 90 days trial will i be able to run repair with this?
[23:03] <LoneTrooper> about these dos utilities i told u i think that cd compilation have some programs to fix boot files im not sure
[23:04] <jrib> ufsu: update-rc.d filename remove
[23:04] <LoneTrooper> oh u right
[23:04] <ufsu> it was a program that I coded
[23:04] <ufsu> thank you jrib
[23:04] <LoneTrooper> microsoft shares windows operating system in trial versions
[23:04] <LoneTrooper> but i havent tryed it
[23:04] <zefuros> lonetrooper: i cannot risk to mess up my windows 8 disk so i cant advance to these options without ensurance
[23:05] <LoneTrooper> u can download iso burn it on dvd launch it and check it there will be option to do that
[23:05] <zefuros> lonetrooper: are you positive that this iso can repair my windows 8 bootloader?
[23:05] <LoneTrooper> if not abort instalation
[23:05] <LoneTrooper> u can check these 2
[23:05] <zefuros> lonetrooper: already downloaded on the laptop on the other room , i think i will go and make a live usb
[23:05] <LoneTrooper> http://www.hirensbootcd.org/files/Hirens.BootCD.15.2.zip and www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[23:06] <zefuros> lonetrooper: i will make the usb from the laptop using windows 7 usb download tool
[23:06] <LoneTrooper> are u using windows on that other laptop?
[23:06] <zefuros> lonetrooper: yeah windows xp
[23:06] <histo> katy: Is there data on the ubuntu partition that you need?
[23:07] <LoneTrooper> if yes then http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.2.4.exe this program makes bootable isos on usb
[23:07] <katy> histro: one step ead of you. doing a fresh install now.
[23:07] <zefuros> lonetrooper: yeah for linux os i will make usb with windows 8 trial installation
[23:07] <histo> zefuros: Stop.
[23:07] <zefuros> histo: why?
[23:07] <histo> katy: k
[23:07] <LoneTrooper> ok
[23:08] <histo> zefuros: Windows 8 was working with ubuntu at one point in time right?
[23:08] <LoneTrooper> i tested instaling vista from usb and it works
[23:08] <zefuros> histo: yeah when i had ubuntu 12.10
[23:08] <histo> zefuros: Okay and then what changed?
[23:08] <LoneTrooper> but i used somw windows software to do so
[23:09] <zefuros> histo: i had driver issues on 12.10 and went to 12.04
[23:09] <zefuros> histo: but accidentaly deleted instead of formating the ubuntu partition
[23:09] <histo> zefuros: right and 12.04 doesn't do uefi very well.
[23:09] <histo> zefuros: accidentally deleted what?
[23:10] <zefuros> histo: the partition in wich ubuntu 12.10 was on
[23:11] <zefuros> histo: that caused me problems with grub but i fixed them with ubuntu 12.04 live usb abut from then on windows 8 couldnt boot
[23:11] <zefuros> histo: but you still didnt tell me how i can identify if i am in uefi mode
[23:11] <katy> histo: ok. fresh install
[23:11] <delac> Would anyone happend to know how to listen rfcomm0? After setting stuff up with sdptool add and rfcomm listen, I only get "cu: /dev/rfcomm0: Line in use"
[23:12] <histo> zefuros: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Identifying_if_the_computer_boots_the_HDD_in_EFI_mode
[23:12] <histo> katy: is display working?
[23:12] <katy> yeah im at the desktop
[23:13] <ChapDaddy> need a little help with XAMPP: just installed XAMPP in /opt but I cant put any sites or folders in htdocs, is their a way to link the htdocs folder to another folder that I can edit?
[23:13] <histo> katy: Okay now click on the gear go to system settings > additional drivers
[23:13] <zefuros> histo: my uefi in bios is at auto but seeing the post im not in uefi mode
[23:13] <histo> ChapDaddy: What do you mean you can't put them in there? Are you receiving an error?
[23:14] <OerHeks> !xampp
[23:14] <histo> zefuros: right but windows 8 is
[23:14] <ChapDaddy> it's because '/opt' needs root
[23:14] <zefuros> histo: is there a way to identify that?
[23:14] <histo> ChapDaddy: well you could use sudo to put files there, or change the group or owner of the htdocs directory.
[23:15] <OerHeks> ChapDaddy, use sudo to take rootpriv
[23:15] <nearst> use sudo
[23:15] <katy> its not installed. im gonna add it from software center. do i need to do "sudo apt-get install linux-souce" and the software updates before i add "additional Drivers" app. or can i do that stuff later
[23:16] <ChapDaddy> how do I change the owner of the 'htdocs' folder ?
[23:16] <x1_> how do I change my device name?
[23:16] <histo> ChapDaddy: sudo chown user:group /path/to/htdocs
[23:16] <histo> x1_: What device name?
[23:16] <x1_> of my computer
[23:17] <histo> katy: aren't you running ubuntu-desktop?
[23:17] <zykotick9> !hostname | x1_
[23:17] <zefuros> histo: when i tried to instal ubuntu 12.04 on efi mode i completed the installation but then it couldnt boot
[23:17] <katy> histo: i think so. i dont fully understand...
[23:17] <histo> zefuros: right because it's become more stable with 12.10 64bit
[23:18] <histo> katy: Go into system settings under hardware there is additional drivers
[23:18] <zefuros> histo: im tired of this do you suggest me trying to install ubuntu 12.10 64bit in uefi mode?
[23:18] <nearst> sudo jockey-gtk
[23:19] <histo> katy: ^^^
[23:19] <ChapDaddy> thanks
[23:19] <x1_> zykotick9,  cant find host on my machine
[23:19] <nearst> cat /etc/hosts
[23:20] <histo> zefuros: Yes. That's the only thing I can think of.
[23:20] <katy> histo: additional drivers is not there. i can add it from the "ubuntu software center" but when i go to "ubuntu software center" and go to "additional driver" i cant click the install button. i think im gonna need to do a software update. Do you follow?
[23:20] <zykotick9> x1_: it's /etc/hosts - notice the s at teh end.
[23:20] <histo> katy: sudo jockey-gtk  will open the additional drivers dialog
[23:21] <zefuros> histo: ok if that fails should i try what i mention earlier? (trying to repair with widnows 8 trial version usb disc)
[23:21] <histo> zefuros: Or play with the UEFI setting in the bios
[23:21] <katy> histo: "sudo: jockey-gtk: command not found"
[23:21] <histo> zefuros: If you change it to enabled instead of auto I think windows 8 may boot.
[23:21] <histo> zefuros: You probably won't even see a grub screen
[23:22] <histo> !info jockey-gtk | katy
[23:22] <colonelqubit> Where the best place for me to send beginners?  Here? Maybe the forums?
[23:22] <histo> why did they make it optional now
[23:22] <zefuros> histo: one additional info.  When i installed ubuntu 12.04 64bit uefi mode grub didnt showed up . The way i fixed it was on bios change the disk type from ide to ahcp or something like that
[23:22] <histo> colonelqubit: here or #ubuntu-beginners
[23:22] <colonelqubit> histo: Thanks
[23:23] <katy> histo: i don't follow
[23:23] <zefuros> histo: does this hint give you any ideas?
[23:23] <colonelqubit> histo: It's really quiet over in #ubuntu-beginners
[23:23] <colonelqubit> :P
[23:23] <histo> katy: you can install it i'm trying to figure out why it was removed
[23:23] <katy> histo: i think i need to run the software update. i've done this yesterday.
[23:23] <nearst> :)
[23:24] <histo> katy: sudo software-properties-gtk
[23:25] <katy> histo: ok
[23:25] <histo> katy: there is a additional drivers page
[23:25] <zefuros> histo: did you read my additional info?
[23:26] <aglet_> hey, i'm wondering if anyone can give help me with a question i have about copying things in directories
[23:26] <histo> zefuros: yes doesn't make any sense to me why that would change anything.
[23:26] <histo> !ask | aglet_
[23:27] <histo> katy: is there an option there for nvidia drivers? I'm not too familiar with 12.10
[23:27] <zefuros> histo: but it did :P anyway i will download ubuntu 12.10 and try to install it with efi mode 64 bit if you see im late this means im stuck again wthout booting anything xD
[23:27] <aglet_> how would i copy all files starting with "stats" from a folder located in /tmp/save with the extention .pdf to a subdirectory named local in my pwd
[23:27] <histo> zefuros: If not try changing from auto to enabled or something.
[23:28] <histo> aglet_: cp /tmp/save/stats* ./local
[23:28] <histo> aglet_: cp /tmp/save/stats* local/
[23:29] <zykotick9> aglet_: something like "cp /tmp/save/stats* ./sudirectory" should work
[23:29] <zefuros> histo: um i have unetbootin installed but i cant see on ubunto selection for 12.10 if i just select iso image will i be ok?
[23:29] <histo> zefuros: yes and then you point it to the 12.10 iso
[23:29] <katy> ok histo: what am i looking 4?
[23:30] <histo> katy: Is there an option to enable nvidia drivers?
[23:30] <zykotick9> aglet_: something like "cp /tmp/save/stats* sudirectory/" is slightly improved
[23:30] <katy> hist: i selected the addiotnal drivers tab. but i dont see anything nvidida
[23:30] <aglet_> what if there are different files that start with stats and I only want to copy the ones with a .pdf extension?
[23:30] <katy> histo: nope just the broadcom wireless driver
[23:30] <zykotick9> aglet_: sorry use "cp /tmp/save/stats*.pdf"
[23:30] <aglet_> thanks guys
[23:30] <histo> katy: lspci | pastebinit
[23:31] <x1_> zykotick9, how do I check it has worked because in the settings it still has the old name? Does it need a system restart
[23:31] <zykotick9> x1_: 1st, are you SURE you updated both /etc/hosts AND /etc/hostname?
[23:31] <x1_> yes
[23:31] <zefuros> histo: how long will you remain here mate?
[23:31] <zykotick9> x1_: restart then.
[23:32] <ssbob_> test
[23:32] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1638017/
[23:32] <histo> zefuros: I'll be on and off druing the night although others can help you.
[23:33] <histo> zefuros: Ahh you have a switching video card.
[23:33] <zefuros> histo: hope so mate cause two days now falling to different people here i didnt make it work
[23:33] <zefuros> histo: how you know that?
[23:34] <histo> zefuros: not you
[23:34] <histo> katy: you have a switching video card
[23:34] <histo> zefuros: sorry for the confusion...
[23:34] <zefuros> histo: its ok mate
[23:34] <katy> histo: ok?
[23:35] <zefuros> histo: if this doesnt work do you recommend trying to repair windows loader with a windows 8 trial cd?
[23:37] <x1_> zykotick9, can I delete the old one now
[23:37] <histo> zefuros: You can it will wipe out grub
[23:37] <zykotick9> x1_: from hosts, yes.
[23:37] <histo> zefuros: but it will atleast get you back into windows in the time being
[23:37] <histo> zefuros: then you could try reinstalling grub2  to fix your menu entries
[23:37] <x1_> zykotick9, thaks for the info
[23:38] <zefuros> histo: oh something else before i reboot , while installing ubuntu 12.10 shall i replace ubuntu 12.04 or format the partition?
[23:38] <histo> katy: I'm still searching for stuff.  But basically from your lspci output you have an intel adapter and an nvidia card. Most laptops that have this switch between the intel and the nvidia to save power.
[23:39] <histo> zefuros: replacing it should format the partition.
[23:39] <histo> zefuros: just don't touch your windows partition
[23:39] <histo> zefuros: unless it wants to install grub to /dev/sda
[23:39] <katy> ok sounds good. im running the software update now and thn im pretty sure ill have the "additional dirvers" under hardware. and ill let you know what i see.
[23:39] <histo> !dualboot | zefuros
[23:39] <zefuros> histo: ok thanks hope i will talk with you again soon with good new :d (of course if i touch my windows partition im dead xD)
[23:40] <unheeding> i keep doing that!  executing commands on my server instead of my laptop :S
[23:40] <_helios_> wow I just installed Windows XP from inside of Ubuntu 12.10 in a Virtual Box wow that is just amazing lol
[23:40] <histo> katy: is this a macbook pro 8,2?
[23:41] <katy> histo: macbook pro 6,2
[23:41] <histo> katy: sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name
[23:42] <kandinski> if anybody here is using supervisord with 12.04, I find it strange that it doesn't reread the configuration when given a 'service supervisor reload' command
[23:42] <kandinski> or even restart
[23:43] <katy> histo: MacBookPr6,2
[23:43] <histo> katy: Have you seen this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[23:44] <katy> histo: yeah i've seen that.
[23:44] <unheeding> _helios_: so XP is in a virtual box inside Ubuntu which is also in a virtual box?
[23:44] <histo> katy: or this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[23:44] <_helios_> unheeding: no Ubuntu 12.10 is the main system with Xp inside the Virtual box
[23:45] <_helios_> unheeding: I just need xp for Itunes and thats about it lol
[23:45] <compdoc> thats the best way to run windows
[23:45] <unheeding> can't you run it in Wine?
[23:45] <_helios_> compdoc: agree'd
[23:45] <compdoc> other than bare hardware
[23:45] <r00st3r> Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't see my bluetooth receiver. Everything else is running fine. I am not dual booting. Alienware m11x r2. I have checked the forums and google. Any help?
[23:45] <_helios_> unheeding: I could but I don't want the windows junk on my main drive
[23:45] <katy> histo: unfortunatly there isnt a specific. macbook pro 6,2 and 12.10. and i couldnt even get 12.04 to boot from a usb.
[23:45] <_helios_> unheeding: so I run windows as a VM to keep it from contaminating linux.
[23:45] <histo> katy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro6-2/Precise#Video
[23:46] <unheeding> _helios_: that's fair
[23:46] <histo> katy: Those instructions for getting the video to work may still work.
[23:46] <_helios_> My next virtualbox mission would be to get a working version of mac osx
[23:46] <histo> katy: No one has made a wiki page for quantal
[23:46] <kostkon> r00st3r, does:  hcitool dev   output anything?
[23:47] <r00st3r> Nothing
[23:47] <r00st3r> kostkon, it is enabled in BIOS. I double checked
[23:48] <histo> _helios_: I dont' think that's possible or if it is its' against their tos
[23:48] <katy> histo: ok but once i install te nvidia driver it won't boot. so im gonna need to do those edits through ssh or recovery?
[23:48] <r00st3r> also lsusb grep | bluetooth does not output anything either
[23:48] <histo> _helios_: osx is only supposed to be run on "mac" hardware.
[23:48] <histo> katy: You could do them before you reboot
[23:48] <unheeding> i find virtual machines to be too slow.  i installed haiku on one (and it's supposed to be blazingly fast and lightweight on bare metal) and it was so slow to be almost unusable
[23:49] <histo> unheeding: You're emulating a complete computer ofcourse it's going to be slower than bare metal
[23:49] <histo> unheeding: You'd have to do hardware virtualization to see near native speeds
[23:49] <katy> ok.
[23:49] <_helios_> luckily my laptop supports virtual machines
[23:49] <zykotick9> unheeding: for my interest, do you get anything from "cat /proc/cpuinfo | egrep '(vmx|svm)' "?
[23:50] <_helios_> through the bios it supports them
[23:50] <boze> in ubuntu the backspace button doesn't work in browsers to go backwards?
[23:50] <unheeding> zykotick9: it matches svm and svm_lock on both cores
[23:50] <SonikkuAmerica> boze: Who even uses Backspace for that?
[23:51] <zykotick9> unheeding: well your cpu support virtualization then...
[23:51] <jason_> how do i find out my current version on ubuntu?
[23:51] <boze> SonikkuAmerica: how do you do it?
[23:51] <SonikkuAmerica> boze: Try Alt+Left and Alt+Right.
[23:51] <rypervenche> zykotick9: WHYYY? cat grepper!
[23:51] <AceFace1> im running ubuntu 12.10 with latest nginx from the repository. public dns resolves wildcard *.example.org to my server but i only want nginx to respond to requests for a.example.org. For some weird reason it will serve on all hostnames. would anyone know why?
[23:51] <boze> thats way too many fingers :(
[23:51] <zykotick9> jason_: "lsb_release -a" from a terminal is one method
[23:51] <unheeding> zykotick9: how do you use it properly?
[23:51] <_helios_> jason_: you can goto top right and select About Ubuntu
[23:51] <_helios_> jason_: I guess it's About this computer
[23:51] <histo> jason_: cat /etc/issue
[23:52] <jason_> sorry i knew it would be a dumb question thanks helios
[23:52] <_helios_> jason_: n/p
[23:52] <zykotick9> rypervenche: can you egrep a /proc directly, i guess so... i'm bad ;)  guilty of unnecessary use of cat.
[23:52] <histo> jason_: lsb-release -a
[23:52] <rypervenche> lsb_release -a
[23:52] <SonikkuAmerica> boze: I never said it was easy.
[23:52] <histo> zykotick9: I do it all the time to.
[23:53] <zykotick9> unheeding: vbox has a setting somewhere, and kvm would work with your cpu
[23:53] <kostkon> r00st3r, could you paste the output of lsusb
[23:53] <boze> SonikkuAmerica: it makes me queezy
[23:54] <r00st3r> kostkon, Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[23:54] <AceFace1> anyone have experience with NGINX?
[23:54] <r00st3r> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[23:54] <r00st3r> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[23:54] <r00st3r> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[23:54] <osirisx11> hi all, how can i force vpn initialize after boot?
[23:54] <r00st3r> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[23:54] <FloodBot1> r00st3r: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:54] <r00st3r> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[23:54] <kostkon> r00st3r, not here
[23:55] <kostkon> !paste | r00st3r
[23:55] <Pici> AceFace1: what sort of experience?
[23:55] <jakey1> how do Issh into a virtual machine
[23:55] <askadm> hello
[23:55] <r00st3r> sorry
[23:55] <histo> jakey1: is the guest running sshd?
[23:56] <AceFace1> Pici: well, i have a very basic setup. and i have "server_name" set to a.example.org but for some reason nginx will also server the same content on b.example.org
[23:56] <askadm> % 100 evli çiftlerle görüntülü sohbet edin ! trchatroulette c*o-m
[23:56] <kostkon> r00st3r, have you check for any available drivers. search for hardware drivers in the dash
[23:56] <askadm> Video chat 100% of married couples! trchatroulette c * o-m
[23:56] <AceFace1> i know public dns resolves wildarc *.example.org to my server
[23:56] <AceFace1> but, wouldnt the "server_name" setting only respond to the host i specify??
[23:56] <askadm> Video chat 100% of married couples! trchatroulette c * o-m
[23:57] <askadm> Video chat 100% of married couples! trchatroulette c * o-m
[23:57] <r00st3r> kostkon, nothing in additional drivers. Just my Nvidia and Broadcomm for wifi and both are enabled.
[23:57] <kostkon> !ops | askadm
[23:57] <kostkon> r00st3r, ok
[23:58] <unheeding> owned
[23:58] <unheeding> can i advertise my free operating system here
[23:58] <Pici> AceFace1: hm.  I've setup some very simple nginx things, but I think you might be better off asking in #nginx
[23:59] <Pici> unheeding: no. #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support only.
[23:59] <AceFace1> Pici: alright, will do. thanks!
[23:59] <kostkon> r00st3r, check your bios settings again. try all the option that are available under the bluetooth settings. even try setting it off, you never know.
[23:59] <r00st3r> kostkon, I am going to try NDIS with the dell drivers. Maybe that will help.
[23:59] <Senjai> unheeding: no
[23:59] <kostkon> r00st3r, ndis?
[23:59] <r00st3r> kostkon ndiswrapper