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smartboyhwhey stochastic 03:50
stochastichey smartboyhw 03:50
stochasticI see a bunch of re-organization took place lately03:54
stochasticI was removed from a handful of groups, but didn't have time to dig in to understand why03:54
stochasticwhat exactly went down?03:55
smartboyhwstochastic, ask zequence :P04:00
smartboyhwHe's the vice project lead now :P04:01
stochasticokay04:01
stochasticzequence, ?04:05
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zequencestochastic: Didn't you get a message in your mail about that?06:31
zequencestochastic: We've reaorganized the launchpad teams. For practical reasons. Privileges, blueprints and bug subscriptions per team06:32
zequencestochastic: ubuntustudio-dev has been removed from some groups, but I don't think you were removed from any?06:34
stochasticzequence, do you have a document I can overview of these changes or the subject of the best e-mail to read on the subject?06:34
zequencestochastic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TeamStructure06:34
zequenceI'm reworking the wiki too.06:35
zequenceWriting dev docs for all the tams06:35
zequenceteams*06:35
stochasticokay06:35
stochasticsounds good, I just get concerned when I see messages like "stochastic deactivated from X" without prior knowledge (maybe I missed the prior memo)06:36
zequence:). I guess I should have made an announcement, but I did message everyone who were directly being moved between groups. I haven't removed anyone directly from any group. Only moved a couple of our active members from one group to another, retaining the purpose of the membership06:38
zequenceI will make an announcement once it's all done though06:38
zequencePerhaps deactivating ubuntustudio-dev from some groupts caused those messages to show?06:39
zequenceIt was a member of many groups. We've now made ubuntustudio-core the manager of the launchpad teams, and ubuntustudio-dev is just for development. Owns branches06:39
stochasticyeah, in review of the changes you've made all the message make sense now06:41
stochasticweb-team is deleted thus there were a few deactivation messages, also dev group general messages of deactivation, there were about five in a row of similar nature.  Just all housekeeping stuff :)06:42
stochasticnext time it'd be great to e-mail out to the two lists (users & dev) directly before or after any major launchpad reorg just to briefly explain what's happening06:43
stochasticzequence, why was I deactivated from the website team?06:45
zequencestochastic: -website team is now only for developing the website. It seems I moved you to the PR team, which has editor rights on the main site, so full control of content06:46
zequenceI think I messaged you about that06:47
* stochastic looks for that message06:47
zequenceShould be in the same message where you are shown to be deactivated from -website06:47
zequenceI should be asking you if this was a correct move, or not06:48
zequence..in the message06:48
stochasticoh06:48
stochasticI'd still like to retain website development work if that's okay06:48
stochasticI know I've been quite inactive as of late, but have been very involved with that in the past06:49
zequencestochastic: Done06:50
stochasticzequence, thank you06:50
zequenceThat team owns the website theme code, and gets messages of changes to the -website blueprint06:50
stochasticyes, makes sense06:50
stochasticI think that clears everything up.  Thanks for taking this re-org on zequence I know scott was wanting to clean up our launchpad presence for a long time now06:51
zequencestochastic: Thanks. I've been working with Scott on this, all though he has had less time than me to work out the details06:52
zequenceOne reason for the change is to make it easier for new contributors to get connected to information. 06:53
zequenceAnd I really want to start hunting for contributors, as soon as the Wiki is in better shape too.06:53
scott-workthis guy has an interesting icon for music made with linux: http://audio-and-linux.blogspot.com/2013/02/music-made-with-linux.html17:36
scott-worki wonder if there is a "standard" icon for this17:37
SzArAkscott-work: nice entry and some real interesting music out there18:15
zequencescott-work: If not, maybe we should lobby for one18:56
zequenceOr, one could discuss this on LAU18:57
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zequencescott-work: We should post about projects made using Linux Audio too19:01
zequenceSomething to add for the PR team19:02
zequencescott-work: btw, I was playing around with a format for the header https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TeamStructure19:02
zequencescott-work: I'm thinking we should have one for wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio, and the same design, but with perhaps another color and also another content for help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio19:03
zequenceWe should profile one to be for development, and the other for users, but keep a close tie, so that it's easy to orientate. One should really find everything else from anywhere, whether one is at the website or one of the wikis19:05
zequenceParticularly having different sets of colors makes it easy to see the difference19:05
zequenceI'm planning to make navigation easy also for all the pages that become the backbone for docs, both dev and user19:06
zequenceBy either using another form of the header, or use trails back to the root19:07
scott-workzequence: definitely i think we should post about some of this stuff19:14
scott-workzequence: i like the look of the header19:15
scott-workone thing i've thought about is that perhaps some open teams should have a time limit on members19:16
scott-workfor example, i'm okay with ~ubuntustudio being open and no time limits, there really isn't an responsibility for that team19:16
scott-workhowever for -testing, i would like to have a mechanism that automatically drops people who aren't active anymore or willing to reply to the 'renew membership' email19:17
zequencescott-work: Sure, we could add a time limit to that sort of teams. -documentation and -contributors are similar19:18
zequence..as they are open19:18
zequenceI guess there's no reason to add that to moderated teams19:19
zequenceFew members, and we know them all, pretty much19:19
zequenceOr, you think we should add that to moderated teams as well?19:25
zequenceIt's not a big deal to renew ones membership every once a year, or whatever period one chooses19:26
zequenceI saw that Xubuntu had different icons for teams, depending on how restricted they are. I was thinking of doing that for us too. I was using another form of the logo for some teams before19:30
zequenceNo, forget I said anything about the moderated teams. 19:38
zequencescott-work: So, for the open teams, except for ~ubuntustudio, and ~ubuntustudio-bugs(which is more of a bug subscription team), what time period do you like? I'm thinking one year is not too short anyway19:39
scott-work_zequence: that sounds good. i just worry about these teams where anyone can join but we don't get any benefit from them even though a bazillion people are on the team19:42
scott-work_(and webchat dropped me again :(  )19:43
zequencescott-work_: Yeah. Ok, I'll set that up then19:44
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zequenceI'm making the subscription period 365 days, and the self renewal period 30 days. But, this only affects new members. The existing ones keep their settings19:50
zequence-testing had 3000 days19:50
zequenceI could change that, but would need to do that for each user.19:51
zequenceI could do that, and send a message about the change, so no one is surprised by the change19:51
ttoinezequence, I was this week-end at azarecord22:14
ttoineI followed the record of 9 track of a jazz band on the workstation I builded for them22:14
ttoinenow, I am waiting for the mix and master, so I can let you listen22:14
zequence ttoine Great22:20
zequencettoine: You should post about that too22:21
ttoinezequence, yep, I think I will do a case study about azarecord, and translate it in english22:21
ttoineand wednesday, I interview Stephange Letz22:22
ttoinestephane22:22
ttoinethe mastering session is scheduled at the end on february22:23

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