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smartboyhwCongrats Lubuntu: You might be the only release left that will still aim for CD releases04:12
smartboyhwin the Ubuntu deriative world04:13
sagarhello06:46
sagarwhen will lubuntu be LTS?06:47
smartboyhwsagar, until gilir and phillw says so:P06:47
sagargilir and phillw please say so :) ... cmmon guys u dont know how quickly lubuntu has become popular06:48
wxli wonder…06:50
wxl!lts06:50
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)06:50
wxlnope we don't have that updated for lubuntu06:50
wxlhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Lubuntu_12.04_is_not_an_LTS06:51
wxlthat's for you sagar06:51
sagarfor large scale deployments we need LTS ... upgrading breaks a lot of things ... i tried from 11.04 to 11.10 and then to 12.04 ... all via upgrade and it broke a lot of things ... i keep getting errors equivalent to explorer has performed illegal operation ... now you really dont come to linux world to get the dreaded windows error ...06:51
smartboyhwActually I seriously think that Lubuntu has the human resources to be an LTS06:51
smartboyhwI think Xubuntu or Ubuntu Studio has less resources than Lubuntu and they can still support LTS releases06:52
sagarin fact i feel that LUBUNTU must only be a LTS release ... no intermediate releases ... that would make it different ... 3 years or even 24 months is a good LTS time ... so the problem of manpower shortage is nullified here as the focus will only be on LTS releases only ... every 2 or 3 yrs06:54
wxlwhile i don't entirely understand the politics behind why it's not an lts, the fact of the matter is it's not.06:56
sagarso the best way to put an end to all politics in a diplomatic way, make lubuntu a LTS only release ...06:58
wxlsagar: file a bug report :)06:59
sagar:)06:59
sagar:)06:59
sagarLOL06:59
wxli'm kind of not kidding06:59
wxldid you ever see the first bug on launchpad?07:00
wxl!bug 107:00
ubottubug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107:00
ubottuFor discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents07:00
smartboyhwlol07:00
wxlstill a very active bug i might add07:00
smartboyhwsagar, that's a weird suggestion:P07:00
sagarLOL LOL LOL ...07:01
sagarsmartboyhw ... only LTS is wierd or something else07:02
smartboyhwsagar, pure LTS release.....07:03
smartboyhwLubuntu has not even get used to LTS every 2 years with intermediate releases in between07:03
smartboyhwIt would be difficult to just switch to pure LTs07:03
mikathewoofhowdy folks.07:03
sagarbut dont you think so that only LTS give more time for developers and we have a much much stable software ... look at  DEBIAN ... they release the last and its hughely hughely stable ...07:04
mikathewoofi have peppermint installed. oooh, no! i know it's not lubuntu, but it's quite similar and there is no helpl in the pepp irc channel.   i'm just wondering why i have all the folder icons from my /home/username on my desktop.  anyone know why? i'd like a nice clean desktop...07:04
sagarswitch to lubuntu mikathewoof07:07
mikathewoofheh07:08
mikathewoofsudo apt-get reinstall os --type--lubuntu   ? that work?07:08
sagarhaa ... have not tried that ... might as well try ... could be a success STORY ...07:10
devslashdoes lubuntu support encrypted lvm at install like vanilla ubuntu installer ?07:16
wxlyep07:16
wxlsame installer devslash07:16
devslashok thanks07:16
devslashvanilla ubuntu 12.10 runs like shit in a VM07:16
devslashtime to try out a different DE07:16
sagarLUBUNTU ...07:21
sagartyr it07:21
smartboyhwdevslash, Unity is **** in VM I agree. It's good on real hardware though07:21
devslashyea. lack of 3d acceleration from what I understand07:22
devslashI'm downloading lubuntu now07:22
devslashtoo bad. i do like unity overall and didn't want to have to learn a different DE07:22
sagarwell LXDE is pretty straight forward ...devslash ... ull like it and its light on resources too07:27
devslashyea07:27
sagarLXDE is desktop environment for Lubuntu ...07:28
sagaru might want to try these too .... SLITAZ very very small and fast ... http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/4.0/slitaz-4.0.iso07:31
devslashif I choose encrypt the file system when installing ubuntu/lubuntu, what type of encryption is used07:36
mikathewoofhow come when i try to open a file over the network (a movie file using vlc)  it can't open it. i get an error that just says 'failed' in vlc.  it opens and plays just fine on linux mint...07:46
mikathewoofi am lead to believe it's a permissions thing. but the sharef is stup just fine. that's not it. the file can open just fine with mplayer...07:47
sagardevslash ...> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/lubuntu-w-lxde-1210-overview.html08:01
sagardevslash ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Workarounds08:01
sagardevslash ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECryptfs08:11
sagarhello09:40
kewelis there a cool little memory meter that will sit in my tray?11:32
kewelhello .. piii1ghz 512mb .. lubuntu 12.04.  I'm looking for a memory meter that will sit on my taskbar.  I tried docky, but uhm it uses 40mb of memory.12:00
JohnDoe_71Ruskewel: conky. but on desktop12:13
albrozhi, can some one help me with a strange bug that happened twice with me?13:38
bennypr0fanehello, I have trouble playing a DVD with VLC and/or Gnome Mplayer, it says "could not open device /dev/dvd"13:51
kewelyall crazy conkay ass mofahs14:06
kewelnm thanks14:06
Unit193!language | kewel14:21
ubottukewel: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.14:21
Unit193bennypr0fane: To start with, you do have libdvdcss2?14:21
bennypr0faneUnit193 let me check. Should find it in Synaptic?14:27
bennypr0faneUnit193 it seems not to be in the repos14:29
bennypr0fanewhat's the terminal command to check if I have a pkg installed?14:29
Unit193bennypr0fane: Only in medibuntu, but there is a script to installl it in the libdvdread package.14:31
Unit193https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs14:32
bennypr0fanehttp://pastie.org/6130097   it's in German though, sorry but maybe you still recognize the output14:33
Unit193Yeah, that's expected, it's not in the main/default repos, only medibuntu or installable from that script.14:34
bennypr0fanewhat it I just installed lubuntu-restricted-extras? unnecesary weight/ mostly useful stuff/nothing to do with my situation?14:35
bennypr0fane*what if14:35
bennypr0faneform this page: "Some programs may need recompilation" I can't do that14:36
bennypr0fane*from14:36
bennypr0fanedamn typos14:36
Unit193In case it doesn't use encryption, you should try pointing the open location to the mounted device, or for example I have /dev/dvd1 rather than /dev/dvd (but I still need libdvdcss2 to play, depends on the disk, you may have one that doesn't)14:39
bennypr0faneturns out I already got libdvdread4 that is new to me, didn't know pkgs could be installed from scripts14:40
Unit193Ehh, it's not great, I use the other method personally as it will also keep it updated.14:40
bennypr0faneso this accesses the medibuntu repo without that need to actually add it to my pkg managment?14:40
Unit193Kind of.14:42
bennypr0fanedamn, still the same error: Wiedergabefehler: DVDRead konnte die Disk "/dev/dvd" nicht öffnen. Ihre Eingabe konnte nicht geöffnet werden: VLC kann die MRL 'dvd:///dev/dvd' nicht öffnen. Sehen Sie für Details im Fehlerprotokoll nach.14:44
Unit193Try ls /dev/dvd*  and see what you get.14:45
bennypr0fane'bout what you said above, I thought maybe my optical drive is mounted wrong.  But in that case, the drive wouldn't start acting when I tell the Media player to open a disc, right?14:46
genii-aroundMaybe you have a CD and not a DVD ?14:47
bennypr0faneno, it's defintiely a dvd14:47
bennypr0fane~$ ls /dev/dvd* ls: Zugriff auf /dev/dvd* nicht möglich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden14:47
bennypr0fanewhat's the asterisk for? like wildcard?14:48
bennypr0faneit says file or directory not found14:48
Unit193Yep.  Now try  mount  and see "where" it is.14:49
bennypr0fane(btw little parenthesis does anyone whether there's way to copy/paste in Xchat by right click menu?)14:50
Unit193May be able to put it in buffer 1 with just selecting the text (scroller click to paste)14:51
bennypr0faneit's /dev/sr0  but the drive did start doing something when I clicked play - before! now it doesn't14:52
bennypr0fane(what's buffer 1?)14:53
bennypr0fane(and how to put it there?)14:53
genii-aroundInteresting that sr0 exists but not the dvd symlink14:57
bennypr0faneit is14:58
bennypr0faneinteresting14:58
bennypr0fanehow can I map this right?14:59
Unit193genii-around: I have dvd1 symlinked to sr0 on two computers, oddly enough.15:00
Unit193bennypr0fane: Should be able to create it with ln -s, or in VLC where it has "Open Disk", select /dev/sr015:00
bennypr0faneoh wait, I didn't reboot after installing libdvdcss215:01
tortikIs any software to see a voltage on a power supply?15:04
bennypr0faneha, it works when I input /dev/sr0!15:05
bennypr0faneUnit193 to make the symlink, like this: ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/dvd ?15:08
Unit193Mine is relative, but basically.15:08
Unit193As root, though, so sudo.15:09
bennypr0faneUnit193 what you mean relative?15:12
Unit193`sudo ln -s sr0 /dev/dvd`  basically.15:12
* genii-around ponders cd /dev && sudo ln -s sr0 dvd15:13
bennypr0fanethen I'd need to cd into that directory first wouldn't I?15:13
bennypr0faneyes like that genii-around15:13
Unit193It's alink that points to "sr0", wherever that may be.  (I just did it to make sure I was right)15:14
bennypr0faneha, it worked! just clicked play with /dev/dvd, dvd starts! I love it when I can set things how they're supposed to be!15:15
bennypr0faneawesome15:15
bennypr0fanethanks guys!15:15
Unit193lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Feb 12 10:12 dvd -> sr0  was created not in the dir, and is the same as lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Feb 12 00:27 dvd1 -> sr0  though I don't know if it'll hold on reboots?15:15
Unit193Sure thing!15:15
bennypr0faneUnit193 I suppose it wouldn't hold. I often get different device names even though didn't change anything. Even different letters, not just numbers15:16
Unit193bennypr0fane: But at least you'll know what to do then.15:17
bennypr0faneyup! nice!15:17
bennypr0fanehave a good day!15:17
Unit193You as well.15:18
tataI have Lubuntu with one LXDE panel. I add one more panel XFCE and when I turn on computer, XFCE panel not appear, WHY?20:56
Unit193tata: Because you didn't add it to any startup scripts.20:58
tataok, how to add xfce panel to startup scripts?21:00
Unit193https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Boot_Install_Login#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_into_Desktop  Should be something like that.21:03
bzbhow do you change the size of icon on desktop?21:19
bzbseems you can only change the font size21:20
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genii-aroundbzb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103807/how-can-i-change-the-icon-size-on-lubuntus-desktop21:21
Unit193pcmanfm->Edit->Preferences->Display->Size of big icons21:21
Unit193Blarge.21:22
bzbgenii-around>, <Unit193>: thanks, that works ~21:23

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