[04:12] <smartboyhw> Congrats Lubuntu: You might be the only release left that will still aim for CD releases
[04:13] <smartboyhw> in the Ubuntu deriative world
[06:46] <sagar> hello
[06:47] <sagar> when will lubuntu be LTS?
[06:47] <smartboyhw> sagar, until gilir and phillw says so:P
[06:48] <sagar> gilir and phillw please say so :) ... cmmon guys u dont know how quickly lubuntu has become popular
[06:50] <wxl> i wonder…
[06:50] <wxl> !lts
[06:50] <wxl> nope we don't have that updated for lubuntu
[06:51] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Lubuntu_12.04_is_not_an_LTS
[06:51] <wxl> that's for you sagar
[06:51] <sagar> for large scale deployments we need LTS ... upgrading breaks a lot of things ... i tried from 11.04 to 11.10 and then to 12.04 ... all via upgrade and it broke a lot of things ... i keep getting errors equivalent to explorer has performed illegal operation ... now you really dont come to linux world to get the dreaded windows error ...
[06:51] <smartboyhw> Actually I seriously think that Lubuntu has the human resources to be an LTS
[06:52] <smartboyhw> I think Xubuntu or Ubuntu Studio has less resources than Lubuntu and they can still support LTS releases
[06:54] <sagar> in fact i feel that LUBUNTU must only be a LTS release ... no intermediate releases ... that would make it different ... 3 years or even 24 months is a good LTS time ... so the problem of manpower shortage is nullified here as the focus will only be on LTS releases only ... every 2 or 3 yrs
[06:56] <wxl> while i don't entirely understand the politics behind why it's not an lts, the fact of the matter is it's not.
[06:58] <sagar> so the best way to put an end to all politics in a diplomatic way, make lubuntu a LTS only release ...
[06:59] <wxl> sagar: file a bug report :)
[06:59] <sagar> :)
[06:59] <sagar> :)
[06:59] <sagar> LOL
[06:59] <wxl> i'm kind of not kidding
[07:00] <wxl> did you ever see the first bug on launchpad?
[07:00] <wxl> !bug 1
[07:00] <smartboyhw> lol
[07:00] <wxl> still a very active bug i might add
[07:00] <smartboyhw> sagar, that's a weird suggestion:P
[07:01] <sagar> LOL LOL LOL ...
[07:02] <sagar> smartboyhw ... only LTS is wierd or something else
[07:03] <smartboyhw> sagar, pure LTS release.....
[07:03] <smartboyhw> Lubuntu has not even get used to LTS every 2 years with intermediate releases in between
[07:03] <smartboyhw> It would be difficult to just switch to pure LTs
[07:03] <mikathewoof> howdy folks.
[07:04] <sagar> but dont you think so that only LTS give more time for developers and we have a much much stable software ... look at  DEBIAN ... they release the last and its hughely hughely stable ...
[07:04] <mikathewoof> i have peppermint installed. oooh, no! i know it's not lubuntu, but it's quite similar and there is no helpl in the pepp irc channel.   i'm just wondering why i have all the folder icons from my /home/username on my desktop.  anyone know why? i'd like a nice clean desktop...
[07:07] <sagar> switch to lubuntu mikathewoof
[07:08] <mikathewoof> heh
[07:08] <mikathewoof> sudo apt-get reinstall os --type--lubuntu   ? that work?
[07:10] <sagar> haa ... have not tried that ... might as well try ... could be a success STORY ...
[07:16] <devslash> does lubuntu support encrypted lvm at install like vanilla ubuntu installer ?
[07:16] <wxl> yep
[07:16] <wxl> same installer devslash
[07:16] <devslash> ok thanks
[07:16] <devslash> vanilla ubuntu 12.10 runs like shit in a VM
[07:16] <devslash> time to try out a different DE
[07:21] <sagar> LUBUNTU ...
[07:21] <sagar> tyr it
[07:21] <smartboyhw> devslash, Unity is **** in VM I agree. It's good on real hardware though
[07:22] <devslash> yea. lack of 3d acceleration from what I understand
[07:22] <devslash> I'm downloading lubuntu now
[07:22] <devslash> too bad. i do like unity overall and didn't want to have to learn a different DE
[07:27] <sagar> well LXDE is pretty straight forward ...devslash ... ull like it and its light on resources too
[07:27] <devslash> yea
[07:28] <sagar> LXDE is desktop environment for Lubuntu ...
[07:31] <sagar> u might want to try these too .... SLITAZ very very small and fast ... http://mirror.slitaz.org/iso/4.0/slitaz-4.0.iso
[07:36] <devslash> if I choose encrypt the file system when installing ubuntu/lubuntu, what type of encryption is used
[07:46] <mikathewoof> how come when i try to open a file over the network (a movie file using vlc)  it can't open it. i get an error that just says 'failed' in vlc.  it opens and plays just fine on linux mint...
[07:47] <mikathewoof> i am lead to believe it's a permissions thing. but the sharef is stup just fine. that's not it. the file can open just fine with mplayer...
[08:01] <sagar> devslash ...> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/lubuntu-w-lxde-1210-overview.html
[08:01] <sagar> devslash ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Workarounds
[08:11] <sagar> devslash ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECryptfs
[09:40] <sagar> hello
[11:32] <kewel> is there a cool little memory meter that will sit in my tray?
[12:00] <kewel> hello .. piii1ghz 512mb .. lubuntu 12.04.  I'm looking for a memory meter that will sit on my taskbar.  I tried docky, but uhm it uses 40mb of memory.
[12:13] <JohnDoe_71Rus> kewel: conky. but on desktop
[13:38] <albroz> hi, can some one help me with a strange bug that happened twice with me?
[13:51] <bennypr0fane> hello, I have trouble playing a DVD with VLC and/or Gnome Mplayer, it says "could not open device /dev/dvd"
[14:06] <kewel> yall crazy conkay ass mofahs
[14:06] <kewel> nm thanks
[14:21] <Unit193> !language | kewel
[14:21] <Unit193> bennypr0fane: To start with, you do have libdvdcss2?
[14:27] <bennypr0fane> Unit193 let me check. Should find it in Synaptic?
[14:29] <bennypr0fane> Unit193 it seems not to be in the repos
[14:29] <bennypr0fane> what's the terminal command to check if I have a pkg installed?
[14:31] <Unit193> bennypr0fane: Only in medibuntu, but there is a script to installl it in the libdvdread package.
[14:32] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[14:33] <bennypr0fane> http://pastie.org/6130097   it's in German though, sorry but maybe you still recognize the output
[14:34] <Unit193> Yeah, that's expected, it's not in the main/default repos, only medibuntu or installable from that script.
[14:35] <bennypr0fane> what it I just installed lubuntu-restricted-extras? unnecesary weight/ mostly useful stuff/nothing to do with my situation?
[14:35] <bennypr0fane> *what if
[14:36] <bennypr0fane> form this page: "Some programs may need recompilation" I can't do that
[14:36] <bennypr0fane> *from
[14:36] <bennypr0fane> damn typos
[14:39] <Unit193> In case it doesn't use encryption, you should try pointing the open location to the mounted device, or for example I have /dev/dvd1 rather than /dev/dvd (but I still need libdvdcss2 to play, depends on the disk, you may have one that doesn't)
[14:40] <bennypr0fane> turns out I already got libdvdread4 that is new to me, didn't know pkgs could be installed from scripts
[14:40] <Unit193> Ehh, it's not great, I use the other method personally as it will also keep it updated.
[14:40] <bennypr0fane> so this accesses the medibuntu repo without that need to actually add it to my pkg managment?
[14:42] <Unit193> Kind of.
[14:44] <bennypr0fane> damn, still the same error: Wiedergabefehler: DVDRead konnte die Disk "/dev/dvd" nicht öffnen. Ihre Eingabe konnte nicht geöffnet werden: VLC kann die MRL 'dvd:///dev/dvd' nicht öffnen. Sehen Sie für Details im Fehlerprotokoll nach.
[14:45] <Unit193> Try ls /dev/dvd*  and see what you get.
[14:46] <bennypr0fane> 'bout what you said above, I thought maybe my optical drive is mounted wrong.  But in that case, the drive wouldn't start acting when I tell the Media player to open a disc, right?
[14:47] <genii-around> Maybe you have a CD and not a DVD ?
[14:47] <bennypr0fane> no, it's defintiely a dvd
[14:47] <bennypr0fane> ~$ ls /dev/dvd* ls: Zugriff auf /dev/dvd* nicht möglich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[14:48] <bennypr0fane> what's the asterisk for? like wildcard?
[14:48] <bennypr0fane> it says file or directory not found
[14:49] <Unit193> Yep.  Now try  mount  and see "where" it is.
[14:50] <bennypr0fane> (btw little parenthesis does anyone whether there's way to copy/paste in Xchat by right click menu?)
[14:51] <Unit193> May be able to put it in buffer 1 with just selecting the text (scroller click to paste)
[14:52] <bennypr0fane> it's /dev/sr0  but the drive did start doing something when I clicked play - before! now it doesn't
[14:53] <bennypr0fane> (what's buffer 1?)
[14:53] <bennypr0fane> (and how to put it there?)
[14:57] <genii-around> Interesting that sr0 exists but not the dvd symlink
[14:58] <bennypr0fane> it is
[14:58] <bennypr0fane> interesting
[14:59] <bennypr0fane> how can I map this right?
[15:00] <Unit193> genii-around: I have dvd1 symlinked to sr0 on two computers, oddly enough.
[15:00] <Unit193> bennypr0fane: Should be able to create it with ln -s, or in VLC where it has "Open Disk", select /dev/sr0
[15:01] <bennypr0fane> oh wait, I didn't reboot after installing libdvdcss2
[15:04] <tortik> Is any software to see a voltage on a power supply?
[15:05] <bennypr0fane> ha, it works when I input /dev/sr0!
[15:08] <bennypr0fane> Unit193 to make the symlink, like this: ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/dvd ?
[15:08] <Unit193> Mine is relative, but basically.
[15:09] <Unit193> As root, though, so sudo.
[15:12] <bennypr0fane> Unit193 what you mean relative?
[15:12] <Unit193> `sudo ln -s sr0 /dev/dvd`  basically.
[15:13]  * genii-around ponders cd /dev && sudo ln -s sr0 dvd
[15:13] <bennypr0fane> then I'd need to cd into that directory first wouldn't I?
[15:13] <bennypr0fane> yes like that genii-around
[15:14] <Unit193> It's alink that points to "sr0", wherever that may be.  (I just did it to make sure I was right)
[15:15] <bennypr0fane> ha, it worked! just clicked play with /dev/dvd, dvd starts! I love it when I can set things how they're supposed to be!
[15:15] <bennypr0fane> awesome
[15:15] <bennypr0fane> thanks guys!
[15:15] <Unit193> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Feb 12 10:12 dvd -> sr0  was created not in the dir, and is the same as lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Feb 12 00:27 dvd1 -> sr0  though I don't know if it'll hold on reboots?
[15:15] <Unit193> Sure thing!
[15:16] <bennypr0fane> Unit193 I suppose it wouldn't hold. I often get different device names even though didn't change anything. Even different letters, not just numbers
[15:17] <Unit193> bennypr0fane: But at least you'll know what to do then.
[15:17] <bennypr0fane> yup! nice!
[15:17] <bennypr0fane> have a good day!
[15:18] <Unit193> You as well.
[20:56] <tata> I have Lubuntu with one LXDE panel. I add one more panel XFCE and when I turn on computer, XFCE panel not appear, WHY?
[20:58] <Unit193> tata: Because you didn't add it to any startup scripts.
[21:00] <tata> ok, how to add xfce panel to startup scripts?
[21:03] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Boot_Install_Login#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_into_Desktop  Should be something like that.
[21:19] <bzb> how do you change the size of icon on desktop?
[21:20] <bzb> seems you can only change the font size
[21:21] <genii-around> bzb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103807/how-can-i-change-the-icon-size-on-lubuntus-desktop
[21:21] <Unit193> pcmanfm->Edit->Preferences->Display->Size of big icons
[21:22] <Unit193> Blarge.
[21:23] <bzb> genii-around>, <Unit193>: thanks, that works ~