=== wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away === m4n1sh_ is now known as m4n1sh === shuduo is now known as shuduo_afk [02:41] man [02:41] how do I test debian-installer [02:54] netboot? [03:11] heh [04:15] Good morning === spjt_ is now known as spjt [04:54] infinity: please remind me again, does soft-freeze mean that -proposed→ release migration is suspended, or that we should stop uploading to -proposed? [05:30] infinity: nevermind, language-selector just migrated, so I guess it's the latter [05:47] pitti: In theory migration is suspended. The block I put in place is not ideal however. [05:47] I also put it up somewhat late. [05:48] So you're supposed to be able to keep uploading. [05:48] ScottK: ah, ok; the language-selector fix is fine I think, but I wouldn't want to upload a new gvfs during the freeze [05:48] ScottK: does "late" mean "within the last hour"? [05:48] Yes [05:48] ah, ok [05:49] I guess though with Edubuntu bailing out of Alpha 2, it's just Kubuntu AFAIK, so maybe gvfs is fine. [05:49] it's on kubuntu-active-dvd-live [05:50] but aside from a new backend, it's mostly bug fixes [05:50] Ah. [05:51] Riddell: ^^^^ is that still a valid seed for us? [05:53] ScottK: so apparently authres also just migrated [05:53] That's not on any images though. [05:54] The block is meant to be limited. [05:54] ah, great [05:54] I was supposed to write a script to generate the hint, but didn't get time yet, so what's in place is not ideal. [05:54] ScottK: so in theory, the block will take care of not migrating packages that affect a2 images, and people can just go on uploading? [05:55] That's the theory. [05:55] If they theory doesn't work out, bad on me for not writing a better block, IMO. [05:55] * pitti presses "Like!" button [05:58] Hello to all Ubuntu Dev' ^_^ [07:59] good morning === smb` is now known as smb === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine_ === jackyalcine_ is now known as zz_jackyalcine [09:27] seb128, hi [09:28] diwic, hey [09:28] seb128, how are you? [09:28] diwic, I'm good thanks, how are you? [09:29] seb128, it's a bit calmer due to chinese new year :-) [09:29] seb128, so I'm looking at a oem-priority bug, which they want fixed in 12.04 preferrably [09:30] seb128, bug 1071561 [09:30] bug 1071561 in OEM Priority Project precise "[sound-nua] Bluetooth device not listed if change mode to Off" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071561 [09:31] seb128, first, it bothers me that not more people have discovered, but anyway. For 13.04 my ambition was to actually make us handle the off profile better [09:32] seb128, and for 12.04 we would just remove the off profile like we have done for alsa cards [09:32] seb128, but now I don't know if I'll get to that during this cycle; so what do you think? [09:33] seb128, what is your advice here - in what order should I/we do what, essentially? [09:34] diwic, reading that bug/patch [09:34] seb128, and, btw. In 13.04 bluetooth will start to work a bit differently when we upload PA 3.0, so it's possible this bug resolves itself for bluetooth anyway [09:34] diwic, so the issue is that you can turn a device off and then not on back because it's dropped from the list? [09:35] seb128, exactly. Change the bluetooth profile to "off" and it disappears from the list [09:36] diwic, that seems fine for SRU to me, do you want me to upload that to raring and precise? [09:36] seb128, yeah, I think that's the simplest way. Haven't checked if it applies to 13.04 straight off === henrix_` is now known as henrix === lool- is now known as lool [09:40] seb128, do you want another merge proposal for raring, or do you take it from here? [09:41] diwic, do you consider that as upstreamable to GNOME or as a distro hack until pulseaudio fixes the issue? [09:42] seb128, upstreamable [09:42] to gnome [09:42] diwic, it would be nice if you could upstream it and I will handle the Ubuntu uploads [09:42] diwic, works for you? [09:43] seb128, ok, I'll make an upstream bug for it [09:43] diwic, thanks === yofel_ is now known as yofel === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine [10:23] @pilot in === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 12.10 released | Archive: Open | Dev' of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of hardy -> quantal | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: xnox [10:31] please reject / mark w-i-p / resubmit of https://code.launchpad.net/~baltix/ubuntu/precise/ubuntu-defaults-builder/remove-quotes-from-firefox-bookmarks-titles/+merge/137107 [10:41] * dholbach hugs xnox [10:42] diwic, let me know when you open the upstream bug, I would like to add the bug reference to the changelog [10:45] seb128, ok, can you reach bugzilla.gnome.org? It seems down. [10:45] diwic, you are right, connection failed [10:48] seb128, I'll try later and let you know if I succeed [10:49] fixed up bug 778627 [10:49] bug 778627 in bash (Ubuntu Precise) "In natty, bash completion now quotes shell variable references rather than expanding them" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/778627 [11:26] I get a kernel segfault on 12.10 updated running exim4/spamass/clamav/nfs mounts === doko_ is now known as doko [11:52] Sweetshark: you have got mail. there is just one blocking issues. === jackyalcine is now known as zz_jackyalcine [12:11] seb128: i would love to see this blueprint raised: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-reboot-libreoffice-packaging [12:17] bdrung, hey, thanks for the reviews on libreoffice ;-) [12:18] bdrung, yeah, we would like to see packaging cleaned but we have only one lo maintainer and getting things working and libreoffice updates is higher priority than cleaning a working debian/rules... [12:38] How can I prevent ubuntu from loading radeon driver? Seems to cause kernel panic here! [12:44] tziOm: for support see #ubuntu or askubuntu.com or just google "blacklist kernel module" === Ivanka_ is now known as Ivanka === bambee is now known as rperier [13:18] Sweetshark: it would be nice if you could push those changes. then i can rebuild the source from the checkout so that you can properly tag the uploaded commit [13:19] seb128: you're welcome. [13:21] seb128: the packaging reboot will rewrite debian/rules and most of the logic will be done upstream by their build system. the reboot will split the source package, reduce build time, make it faster to review, less error-prone. i make a bet that the invested time will pay back in the future. [13:22] bdrung, is debian on board with that reboot? [13:22] bdrung, or does it mean forking libreoffice's packaging in ubuntu? [13:24] seb128: i haven't asked the debian maintainer. Sweetshark said that the debian maintainer is conservative. i assume that he will jump on board once the initial step are done. let me ask him. [13:25] bdrung, thanks (and good luck, the debian maintainer is not really ubuntu friendly ;-) [13:26] "conservative" heh [13:26] he's such a diplomat [13:27] i'm sure he'll see the merits in good engineering ;-) [13:27] seb128: i can contact him with my DD address :) [13:27] bdrung, that's probably wiser ;-) [13:33] seb128: Do you have anything to add to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop for 12.04.2? [13:35] cjwatson, no, I don't think we did any change, which is not already mentioned, and is worth listing [13:35] cjwatson, libreoffice 3.5.7 was uploaded but that didn't get out of proposed I think? [13:38] seb128: no, still not completely verified according to pending-sru === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine_ [13:40] cjwatson, it has a MRE and there is no specific testcase afaik, it's mostly "wait until there is enough confidence the update is good" === jackyalcine_ is now known as zz_jackyalcine [13:41] seb128: Sure, I just don't tend to take that kind of decision as an ubuntu-sru member and prefer to wait for somebody more domain-competent to take it and mark the bug accordingly [13:41] cjwatson, ok, fair enough [13:41] Sweetshark, ^ [13:42] Sweetshark, if/when you feel confident the 3.5.7 SRU got enough testing and is good please change the tag to verification-done [13:42] (I do tend to look over the bug to make sure it was tagged by somebody I know is competent or somebody who quoted a good reason; but it's rare for me to tag it myself) [13:43] yeah, I doubt anyone out of Sweetshark has enough of an overview of the testing done/bugs opened since/feedback to tag that one anyway [13:44] or it would take a day to sit down and digest all the infos/feedback we received through launchpad/forums/... [13:44] Right [13:44] Some bugs are easier - coming up to 12.04.2 there were various bugs pending verification that amounted to "is it actually possible to install this package?", so I just verified those quickly in an schroot === jdstrand_ is now known as jdstrand [13:46] yeah, I had on my todo to try to help verifying some SRUs, I didn't get to it though :-( I will still try to do some after 12.04.2 when things are unfrozen [13:48] mlankhorst,tjaalton: Either of you know what's happening with bug 1122072? It's showing up in 12.04.2 testing reports [13:48] bug 1122072 in xorg (Ubuntu) "[Precise on VirtualBox] "Fatal server error: no screen found" in Xorg.0.log" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1122072 === zz_jackyalcine is now known as jackyalcine [13:49] cjwatson: ugh sounds like a bug fixed in raring [13:49] let me find the specific commit that fixed it [13:49] virtualbox didn't get updated? [13:50] cjwatson: mind if I merge curl? [13:50] cjwatson: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56343 ? [13:50] Freedesktop bug 56343 in Drivers/DRI/i965 "[Regression i965]X fails to start with headless" [Major,Resolved: invalid] [13:50] you'd know better than I :) [13:50] mlankhorst: Probably too late to fix for .2 now, but if you can find it a backport for .3 and a release note in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop would be appreciated [13:51] still fixable if i have someone to verify it [13:51] mdeslaur: Go ahead; just be careful to preserve the +x perms on debian/*.links (easy to lose by accident) [13:51] cjwatson: thanks for the hint [13:51] mlankhorst: Hm, I hadn't been planning to respin the desktop images; it would depend whether this affects substantial real hardware too [13:52] And this would probably require respinning many flavours ... [13:52] cjwatson: Well, it affects anyone booting a desktop image in vbox to install... [13:52] ok it could be done as SRU probably [13:52] cjwatson: Since no X, no ubiquity. [13:52] Sure, I just don't see virtualbox as a showstopper [13:52] mlankhorst: So what 2D driver is out of sync here? [13:53] hmm [13:53] cjwatson: no it's a bug affecting quantal too, if you have no outputs it doesn't see the hardware [13:53] vbox shouldn't need any special driver [13:53] the special driver adds more features but it's never available on the installer [13:54] mlankhorst: Just trying to understand how that upstream bug matches up, given Eric Anholt's reply [13:54] probably not that bug :) [13:54] cjwatson: get a desktop computer, unplug all displays, see if you can reproduce it :P [13:54] on quantal [13:54] desktop computers? what are those? [13:54] i have five! [13:54] a laptop without builtin screen, keyboard and touchpad! [13:54] plus panda [13:55] seb128: When I left for vacation, I felt good with the SRU already, just wanted to let it hang for a few more days. I havent seen anything popping up so far, but would need to recheck mails and lp-comments again carefully one. [13:55] and no battery either [13:55] mlankhorst: ah, old tech [13:55] cjwatson: Some say they are bigger than laptops [13:55] (you may infer I don't have any, at least not any that wouldn't require some hardware maintenance to get up and running again ...) [13:55] mlankhorst: if it's fixed in xserver 1.13.x then we probably should add it there.. [13:56] Sweetshark, ok, please recheck what happened while you were away and if you don't see any real issue tag it as verified? [13:56] tjaalton: yeah I want to use xorg-integration-tests as a reason to add a MRE to input-evdev and xorg-server === henrix is now known as henrix_ [13:57] right but if there's an identifiable commit it could be sru'd right away [13:57] Do we know if this bug affects kvm? [13:57] seb128: k, will do. [13:57] tjaalton: should be d71a17cfab6536df9df46a342a24dd415c020192 [13:57] Sweetshark, danke [13:57] Ah, psivaa says it doesn't [13:58] mlankhorst: ah [13:58] cjwatson, mlankhorst, tjaalton: is the bug you are talking about the "12.04 isos can't be booted from a raring kvm/virtualbox"? [13:58] yes [13:58] it shouldn't matter what the host has [13:58] seb128: kvm is reported to work fine, at least via libvirt [13:58] k, I ran into that last week when I wanted to try to verify some SRU [13:58] seb128: bug 1122072 [13:58] bug 1122072 in xorg (Ubuntu) "[Precise on VirtualBox] "Fatal server error: no screen found" in Xorg.0.log" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1122072 === henrix_ is now known as henrix [13:59] I can try kvm in a bit [13:59] seb128: it should affect normal quantal too though [13:59] cjwatson, I tried to kvm -cdrom .iso and that didn't work for me, not sure if it uses libvirst by default? [13:59] * penguin42 has done a Precise install on Raring kvm a couple of weeks ago [13:59] seb128: kvm doesn't, no [14:00] I'll check once rsync finishes [14:00] ok [14:00] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?h=d71a17cfab6536df9df46a342a24dd415c020192 presumably [14:01] (per mlankhorst above) [14:01] but if somebody verifies the bug exists on quantal too, i can do a sru for both [14:02] do any of you have virtualbox set up to help verify it? [14:02] nope, suppose i could see if the other system fires up though [14:02] cjwatson, I have [14:03] since I assume it'd be rather fiddly to do it based on a live CD (unless we promoted it to -updates in advance of verification, and, er, no) [14:03] I guess I could do a custom one-off image build if need be [14:03] * mlankhorst has netboot for live quantal [14:03] cjwatson, how would I go about testing it? [14:03] with just everything in -proposed [14:04] seb128: the bug says that if you boot a live image and select "Try Ubuntu" (etc.) then that reproduces it [14:04] infinity: ^- which suggests, incidentally, that ubiquity works fine ... [14:04] right, I can confirm the bug, not sure how to test the fix, does that require to respin an iso? [14:04] Fatal server error: [14:04] [ 13.893] no screens found [14:04] [ 13.893] (EE) [14:04] on headless quantal with real hardware [14:04] ah well lets try the fix.. [14:04] seb128: possibly break=casper-bottom and install a new package from -proposed [14:05] seb128: but a custom image might be easier, or if mlankhorst can verify in a more normal environment ... [14:05] ok, seems like mlankhorst is on it [14:05] cjwatson: Erm, that doesn't make a lot of sense. [14:06] I know. I wonder if it only affects second and subsequent attempts to launch a server, or something [14:06] Or maybe only via display managers that are more normal than ubiquity-dm [14:06] ubiquity-dm does hardcode various things [14:07] ok rebuilding xorg-server now [14:07] so we have a plan to request a MRE for xorg-server minor releases, but it didn't occur to me that it would've been useful for .2 :/ also, integrating the tests is still WIP [14:08] If we're going to do this for .2 it'd need to be a cherry-pick anyway [14:09] sure thing [14:09] This patch is pretty simple and shouldn't require much retesting of other things [14:09] Is this only in xorg-server-lts-quantal/precise, by the way, or xorg-server/precise as well? [14:09] just quantal [14:09] ok, good [14:11] dupe of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1037518 [14:11] Ubuntu bug 1037518 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xorg crashed with SIGABRT - FatalError (f=f@entry=0x7f41e2f9a9e2 "no screens found")" [High,Triaged] [14:12] hm wonder how I missed that [14:12] that says it's still happening in raring? [14:13] shouldn't afaict [14:13] also claims it's a dup of bug 982889. Is there any possibility that making this compat output change might affect the server's behaviour if it happens to be started up before drm devices appear? [14:13] bug 982889 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "X trying to start before plymouth has finished using the drm driver" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/982889 [14:13] hm that's a different bug [14:14] ok I'll undupe for now [14:14] Question still applies though :) [14:14] no [14:14] OK ... [14:14] this is specifically about not finding screens due to no outputs being connected, I think [14:15] So none connected != some connected but open fails? [14:15] yes [14:16] Right, makes sense, thanks [14:16] * cjwatson -> bike shop [14:16] well you can test if you want by cherry picking that patch, it fixes the headless case for me [14:16] On reflection, happy for this to be SRUed and respun for .2 if it checks out for you === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [14:17] seb128: want to try with a custom xorg-xserver-core deb? [14:19] mlankhorst, my image is i386 if you have one of those? [14:19] quantal? [14:21] either works, I need to rebuild for lts-quantal anyway, and I have netboots for precise/quantal/raring i386/amd64 [14:26] I so need to automate lts-stack sru's at one point :/ [14:31] seb128: I've done the builds so if you can verify I'll upload both. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1639562/ [14:31] mlankhorst, maybe just upload if it works for you, it will be easier to test for me once it's in proposed [14:31] seb128: well you can test on a live installation too [14:32] but I don't know if you're hitting that bug or not [14:32] mlankhorst, I do when trying to boot the 12.04.2 iso in virtualbox from my raring [14:33] anyhow if network works you could do some manual testing, I uploaded to my ppa too [14:33] https://launchpad.net/~mlankhorst/+archive/ppa/+packages building atm [14:38] hm. i've been looking now for a while in the d-i sources, but I don't see the obvious solution: I need to copy stuff from my customized install cd to the target system just before apt-setup runs, but after /target has been mounted. what's the best way to implement this? is there a hook that I could preseed or something? [14:41] I've found partman/early_command, but that's quite a bit before /target is usable === wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood [14:44] mlankhorst: your request to see if it happens on quantal too - was that pertaining to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1122072 ? [14:44] Ubuntu bug 1122072 in xorg (Ubuntu) "[Precise on VirtualBox] "Fatal server error: no screen found" in Xorg.0.log" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:44] plars: yes [14:46] mlankhorst: I can check that, but last I tried quantal it worked fine under virtualbox [14:47] plars: testing the fix I put up on my ppa on precise-lts-quantal is fine too, i can verify the fix on real hardware for quantal === henrix_ is now known as henrix [14:50] mlankhorst: not sure how much of that you caught before my isp so rudely interrupted, but I'm digging up a quantal image to try it again real quick [14:50] 15:46 < plars> mlankhorst: I can check that, but last I tried quantal it worked fine under virtualbox [14:50] 15:47 < mlankhorst> plars: testing the fix I put up on my ppa on precise-lts-quantal is fine too, i can verify the fix on real hardware for quantal [14:50] 15:50 < plars_> mlankhorst: not sure how much of that you caught before my isp so rudely interrupted, but I'm digging up a quantal image to try it again real quick === plars_ is now known as plars [14:54] mlankhorst: yes, with quantal everything works fine [14:54] mlankhorst: to be specific, the host machine for all of these is quantal, booting a quantal image works fine, booting 12.04.1 works fine, 12.04.2 does not come up in X under live mode though [14:55] can you grab xorg-server from my ppa? [14:55] https://launchpad.net/~mlankhorst/+archive/ppa/+packages seems to be done building [14:58] pitti: aboudreault asked in #ubuntu-motu if postgresql-9.2 will be in raring and if not what's the reason [15:01] geser: the main reason is the Debian freeze [15:01] geser: we need to pick between 9.1 with lots of packaged extensions [15:01] geser: or 9.2 with no packaged extensions at all === henrix is now known as henrix_ [15:01] geser: and I think we are better off with 9.1 for now [15:01] geser: 9.2 is in my PPA FYI [15:02] pitti: thanks. will forward this to aboudreault [15:02] pitti: is ubuntu up on apt.postgresql.org (or whatever is the name of the day for that archive?) [15:02] xnox: yes, but only lucid and precise for now [15:02] pitti: the only that matter =) [15:02] LTSes are the most common platform for db stuff anyway [15:02] (developers get cranky) === henrix_ is now known as henrix [15:02] xnox: I can ask Christoph for more, but I don't think it's that useful [15:03] apt.postgresql.org is the grand culmination of my good old backports PPA, Debian backports, and Christoph's pgapt.debian.net, I'm really quite happy about it === kentb-out is now known as kentb [15:06] @pilot in === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 12.10 released | Archive: Open | Dev' of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of hardy -> quantal | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: xnox, sconklin === Ursinha_ is now known as Ursinha [15:09] mlankhorst: ok, installed, what should I restart to try to make it come back? [15:09] lightdm? [15:12] yeah [15:12] probably it stopped and attempted to start failsafe-x [15:12] i think 'start lightdm' would work though [15:14] mlankhorst: nope, still just end up at a black console [15:14] erk [15:14] log? [15:18] oh, I made it to http://lwn.net/ :) === henrix is now known as henrix_ === henrix_ is now known as henrix [15:31] mlankhorst: looks to be about the same, but let me pastebinit [15:32] Should userspace services modprobe -r (remove) kernel modules they use on service stop? This seems dangerous if other people might be using them. My specific problem is that openiscsi modprobe -r's the iscsi initatiator module during its init.d's 'stop', which is bad if other things are using it. I'm trying to work out why it does this or whether it's a straight bug. [15:33] mlankhorst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1639709 [15:37] plars: any quantal log too by any chance? [15:39] wookey: doko: i guess db5.3 should also get the cross-building/bootstrapping fixes that are applied against db package [15:39] xnox: Yes. [15:40] xnox: yes I assume it's much the same [15:40] pitti: also you're on http://worldofgnome.org/continuous-integration-of-gnome-modules-on-the-top-of-jenkinscontinuous-builds/ (with a photo) :) [15:40] ah, credit jibel, credit jibel! [15:41] * xnox is cross-patch-piloting [15:42] mitya57: added a comment, thanks [15:42] pitti: You are famous now =) [15:43] xnox: oh my, all these groupies! [15:43] :) [15:43] seriously, I'm quite happy how well it has been taken already [15:44] hughsie fixed the colord tests, I was looking into the two gst failures with tpm, and pwhitnall already fixed friends [15:46] mlankhorst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1639744/ [15:48] siretart: The easiest solution is probably to write out (from preseed/early_command or partman/early_command; if the former then you'll need a mkdir -p as well) an executable hook in /lib/partman/finish.d/ starting with a two-digit number greater than 20 [15:48] Say, /lib/partman/finish.d/99create_some_files === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away [15:50] plars: doesn't seem to detect the vesa bios at all for some reason [15:56] doko: you broke upstart! [15:57] stgraber: how =) ? [15:57] doko: or to be precise, the new gcc causes one of the upstart tests to fail and cause a build hang ;) [15:57] stgraber: so FSF broke upstart ;-) === ximion is now known as ximion-afk [16:03] xnox, fsf ? [16:03] xnox, was doko renamed ? [16:03] plars: any chance it could be a configuration issue? what if you set the precise iso as a quantal image, which would probably make sense since it's quantal kernel + xserver === henrix is now known as henrix_ [16:04] mlankhorst: setting the precise iso as a quantal image? I'm not sure what you mean [16:05] ogra_: *giggle* [16:05] mlankhorst: I'm sure I'm pointing at the right image if that's what you mean === henrix_ is now known as henrix [16:06] plars: How did you go about upgrading to mlankhorst's new server package? [16:06] cjwatson: I added the repository and did apt-get update/dist-upgrade [16:08] plars: I mean it would probably count as quantal from virtualbox's point of view [16:08] mlankhorst: I don't think virtualbox knows or cares [16:09] well my only guess is a kernel regression now [16:09] mlankhorst: I was away for a while. Have you had any positive reports regarding this virtualbox-related change? [16:09] or oracles secret plan of undermining established linux dstros [16:09] conspiracy ! [16:10] cjwatson: what I just said ^ [16:11] Uh - I see your responses to plars; I was asking whether you'd had any positive responses as well as that negative one [16:13] well it fixes my connectorless setup, just not the issue here it seems [16:13] psivaa: any chance you can give that ppa a try again? just boot the image, add-apt-repository, update/dist-upgrade, and restart lightdm should do it [16:13] plars: sorry i have already tried that and i get the same failure as yours [16:13] ok [16:13] thanks for confirming [16:14] plars: yw, sorry dint do it before since it was the same outcome :) === tkamppeter__ is now known as tkamppeter [16:18] OK, so it sounds like the answer here is a release note [16:20] I suspect it's a bug somewhere else though [16:39] cjwatson: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=785652 ? [16:39] bugzilla.redhat.com bug 785652 in xorg-x11-drv-vesa "Xserver does not start in virtualbox" [Unspecified,Closed: errata] [16:41] libpciaccess-lol-dev-port.patch :) [16:41] sounds good [16:41] I'll throw up a libpciaccess in a bit, food first [16:42] can I sru the xorg-server headless fix too then in that case? [16:43] Sure, but I'm only going to take the libpciaccess one for .2, unless you have a very good argument to the contrary [16:45] same failure mode under different conditions :) [16:46] bbiab [16:47] Well, sure; but the conditions for the libpciaccess one are only marginally a .2 blocker as it is [16:47] Can you describe the conditions for the other fix in detail? [16:48] I have <2 days until I need to release 12.04.2, so I want to have a good reason for any risk [16:48] And avoid burning out testers === SpamapS_ is now known as SpamapS === wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood [16:54] jbicha: unfortunately ibus-table seems to need a revert. [16:54] jbicha: I'll wait for a few days to see what's upstream's reaction, if there is patch then all good. [16:55] happyaron: ok, thanks! [17:05] definitely something broken in newer google chrome. It just sits there.. :-P [17:05] cjwatson: it's just when no outputs are found, for example when you disconnected all monitors, the cd will fail to boot whereas 12.04.1 lts works, but sure it can wait I suppose [17:08] hallo all, are there any reason why libapt do not use openssl? I just wundered why http porcess takes ~30% of my intel i5-3317. Perf shows this result: [17:09] 14,81% http libapt-pkg.so.4.12.0 [.] SHA512_Transform(_SHA512_CTX*, unsigned long const*) ▒ [17:09] 8,11% http libapt-pkg.so.4.12.0 [.] SHA1Transform(unsigned int*, unsigned char const*) ▒ [17:09] 5,62% http libapt-pkg.so.4.12.0 [.] MD5Transform(unsigned int*, unsigned int const*) [17:09] plars: can you test https://launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/sru7/ out? [17:09] Sarvatt: sure, one moment [17:10] mlankhorst: OK - it's certainly a bug and should be fixed for .3, but it's not a blocker for .2 so I'm not going to risk it [17:10] ok sure [17:10] * cjwatson <- conservative today [17:10] 2 hours to build, ugh [17:10] this funktions in libapt do not have any optimisation. beside current openssl has avx optimisation for this hashes [17:10] Sarvatt: copying to my ppa [17:10] I have a build bump there [17:11] * Sarvatt should have urgency=critical'ed it :) [17:11] fishor_: The apt developers are on #debian-apt on irc.oftc.net; or you could file a bug [17:11] cjwatson, ok thx [17:11] Sarvatt: building now ;P [17:11] https://launchpad.net/~mlankhorst/+archive/ppa/+packages [17:11] fishor_: There are probably licensing difficulties with using OpenSSL [17:12] fishor_: APT is GPLed and the OpenSSL licence is incompatible with that [17:16] Sarvatt: I'm watching the ppa from mlankhorst and will pull it in from there as soon as that finishes === unix is now known as fire [17:16] it fails to build [17:16] doh [17:20] xnox, maybe, I think we don't use it yet [17:21] doko: you respond right about when it's almost finished building here and passing sanity checks before an upload =) [17:21] doko: i'll upload anyway, but good to know it's not on the critical path. [17:22] mlankhorst: your build-dependencies are weak, old man :) [17:23] that's why it was going to a ppa first! === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] [17:53] where can i get the WebKit reference manual for python? developing a debian browser [17:54] coder2, see /topic [17:54] coder2, better try #ubuntu-app-devel [17:54] Hmm, some libreoffice infra shouts at me that I should install pittis postgresql updates. Should i trust them? [17:54] ogra_, okay sorry thanks [17:55] * ogra_ hands Sweetshark http://www.pctips.in/2013/02/installing-open-office-in-ubuntu.html and runs [17:56] dobey: hey there. had any time to look at the code? anything i can do? [17:59] * Sweetshark slowly forms foam around the mouth ... [17:59] *grrrr* [17:59] wow, it's amazing what people will publish as "tips" [17:59] * ogra_ giggles === alesage is now known as alesage|afk [18:01] cjwatson: ah, that sounds promising. I've now installed a copy script to /usr/lib/base-installer.d, which *seems* to work as well. [18:01] cjwatson: I had hoped that something like partman/late_command or something existed [18:01] mlankhorst, Sarvatt: seems to work with the updated libpciaccess0 now :) [18:07] yay [18:07] \o/ [18:15] siretart: base-installer.d should work too, yes. And no, afraid not. [18:16] mlankhorst: precise-proposed upload on its way I hope? :) [18:18] I can't upload, and it was sarvatt who did the packaging :-) [18:18] Sarvatt: ^- [18:18] (12.04.2 blocker so I'd like it ASAP) [18:19] he can't upload either ) [18:20] * ogra_ points mlankhorst to rge patch pilots ;) [18:20] *the [18:20] @pilot out === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 12.10 released | Archive: Open | Dev' of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of hardy -> quantal | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: sconklin [18:20] hahahahaha [18:20] LOL [18:20] * xnox off to volleyball === jackyalcine is now known as zz_jackyalcine [18:20] sigh, ok, give me the source package and I can sponsor/review it [18:21] would be better if somebody else sponsored it, but ... [18:21] cjwatson: either way, it seems to have worked for me. thanks for your assistance! [18:22] Laney: ping [18:23] cjwatson: tjaalton is sponsoring :) [18:23] sup barry [18:24] Laney: hi. i'm looking at a couple of things in sessioninstaller. bug 1084061 [18:24] bug 1084061 in sessioninstaller (Ubuntu) "Port to GStreamer 1.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1084061 [18:24] Laney: looks like that your mp just got landed in trunk right? [18:24] yep [18:24] oh, about 2hrs ago?! [18:25] something like that, correct [18:25] Laney: so the non-ubuntu bug task could be fix committed then? [18:25] right [18:25] I'll cherry-pick it into raring tomorrow most likely [18:26] Laney: perfect. will you drop the depends on python-gst0.10 then? [18:26] for sure [18:26] fantastic. that should drop the ubuntu-desktop task from python-gst0.10 i think [18:26] Laney: since i think si was the last dep [18:26] *rdep [18:27] cjwatson: uploaded [18:27] Laney: that makes me very happy :) [18:27] * Laney does $ reverse-depends -c main src:gst0.10-python [18:28] that and pitivi which is kept in main by the weird usb seed [18:28] (but isn't on any media) [18:28] Laney: yep [18:31] once again, xapian is the last thing to stop a py3 port :/ [18:34] Sarvatt: You decided we didn't need the cloexec patch linked from the bug description? [18:35]