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genii-around | Hello, I have a question concerning ubuntu domain names. I am a member of the Canadian LoCo. Someone at GoDaddy.com has parked ubuntu.ca domain, which we would like to use. Under the law here concerning name disputes, ( page 3 here: http://www.cira.ca/assets/Documents/Legal/Dispute/CDRPpolicy.pdf ) "Registrant’s dot-ca domain name is Confusingly Similar to a Mark in which the Complainant had Rights prior to the date of registration | 01:35 |
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genii-around | of the domain name and continues to have such Rights" is a basis for contention. ubuntu.com was registered May 2004, ubuntu.ca April 2005. | 01:35 |
genii-around | Canonical has a brick and mortar location in Canada as well. Are there any suggestions as to how to proceed? | 01:35 |
elky | contacting legal@ubuntu or whatever that email address probably | 01:45 |
* genii-around makes more coffee | 01:45 | |
genii-around | elky: Ah, thanks. | 01:45 |
JanC | genii-around: if the domain isn't used in a way that might confuse people, it might be difficult to get it... | 01:58 |
JanC | remember there are other companies & associations named Ubuntu | 01:59 |
genii-around | JanC: I'm pretty sure GoDaddy just registered it to themself around Hoary release time to try and get some money. | 02:00 |
genii-around | ( whois: Creation date: 2005/04/29" | 02:01 |
* genii-around ponders if Ubuntu Cola has a Canadian office | 02:05 | |
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czajkowski | it does vary tbh given the word ubuntu is used elsewhere outside of the ubuntu distro and community world | 05:44 |
pleia2 | czajkowski: you're up early :) | 05:44 |
czajkowski | can't sleep | 05:45 |
nigelb | o/ | 05:45 |
czajkowski | doing mail and following up on irc stuff might help | 05:45 |
nigelb | *yawn* | 05:45 |
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nigelb | czajkowski: you've been up all night? | 05:47 |
czajkowski | nope slept from about 1-5 | 05:47 |
czajkowski | now up | 05:47 |
czajkowski | oh it's pancake tuesday need to wait another hour before the local shop opens up to get the stuff to make pancakes | 05:52 |
dholbach | good morning | 07:59 |
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andrejz | hello | 12:49 |
andrejz | i have a question about dates for UGJ | 12:49 |
andrejz | on the wiki it states it's going to occur from March 1st to March 3rd | 12:50 |
czajkowski | yes | 12:51 |
andrejz | however if one looks at release schedule - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule | 12:51 |
andrejz | beta release will be on March 28th | 12:51 |
andrejz | shouldn't UGJ be a weekend after beta release so it can be tested | 12:52 |
czajkowski | nope we've never done it that way | 12:52 |
czajkowski | nothing to stop teams having their own jam their weekend if they want | 12:52 |
czajkowski | but this is the weekend that was chosen it's the weekend before feature freeze | 12:52 |
andrejz | sure we have. every other UGJ was the first weekend after beta was released | 12:53 |
czajkowski | andrejz: well this was when this one was chosen | 12:54 |
czajkowski | dont know what else to say | 12:54 |
czajkowski | mail jono perhaps as it was him as far as I can tell that chose it | 12:54 |
andrejz | for 12.04 it was one month earlier, because beta was released 1 month earlier (because 12.04 was LTS) | 12:54 |
andrejz | but for all the other .04 releases UGJ were around the first week of april | 12:55 |
czajkowski | andrejz: like I say we didn't chose it, hell I didnt know about it till randall mailed loco contacts list | 12:55 |
andrejz | ok, i understand | 12:55 |
andrejz | so i should email Jono to suggest date change? | 12:56 |
czajkowski | it's a bit late to change it tbh | 12:57 |
czajkowski | but yes mail him if you'd like | 12:58 |
andrejz | thanks for the info | 12:58 |
czajkowski | again no idea why it was chosen perhaps there was a reason, but he wasn't the one that mailed the list | 12:58 |
czajkowski | so not sure | 12:58 |
czajkowski | sorry | 12:58 |
czajkowski | dholbach: any ideas why it was chosen then ? | 12:58 |
andrejz | czajkowski: my guess is: probably because it's exactly 1 year after 12.04 global jam | 13:01 |
andrejz | but 12.04 was an exception because beta was released earlier (LTS release) | 13:02 |
dholbach | czajkowski, there were some conferences I think | 13:51 |
dholbach | czajkowski, pleia2 and jcastro probably know | 13:52 |
dholbach | and balloons too | 13:52 |
czajkowski | genii-around: many people also use the word ubuntu in their counteries and not use it in the way we would | 16:05 |
czajkowski | so they can use the ubuntu.iso if they chose tbh | 16:05 |
genii-around | In Canada the word Ubuntu has no traditional meaning as in perhaps some African nation or so on. So I'm not sure that it's a valid claim as far as that goes. | 16:07 |
czajkowski | it is though | 16:07 |
czajkowski | it has no valid claim in ireland either | 16:07 |
czajkowski | or in other languages, if people wish to use the domain they can | 16:07 |
czajkowski | unless they are using it in a way that would upset the trademark | 16:07 |
genii-around | Hm. | 16:09 |
czajkowski | genii-around: it's a word that was long around before canonical used it :) | 16:11 |
genii-around | Well, yes. | 16:11 |
genii-around | Seeing as how the -qc team used to have it perhaps I'll go talk to one of them about it... | 16:12 |
pleia2 | UGJ is being done right before feature freeze, after the betas are released gets a bit late for a lot of changes to come in, we want to catch the QA stuff much earlier than the betas | 17:10 |
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pleia2 | the day after beta1 last cycle meant that we had a lot of broken ISOs for the jam, since everyone saved up all their changes until right after the beta1 | 17:11 |
pleia2 | so the daily that weekend was a bit of a mess | 17:11 |
pleia2 | we had an installer that crashed upon boot (you could still get into the livecd and launch it from there, but it was not awesome) | 17:12 |
pleia2 | anyway, we'll see how it goes, if it doesn't go well we'll change it next cycle :) | 17:14 |
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