[01:35] <genii-around> Hello, I have a question concerning ubuntu domain names. I am a member of the Canadian LoCo. Someone at GoDaddy.com has parked ubuntu.ca domain, which we would like to use. Under the law here concerning name disputes, ( page 3 here: http://www.cira.ca/assets/Documents/Legal/Dispute/CDRPpolicy.pdf )   "Registrant’s dot-ca domain name is Confusingly Similar to a Mark in which the Complainant had Rights prior to the date of registration 
[01:35] <genii-around> of the domain name and continues to have such Rights" is a basis for contention. ubuntu.com was registered May 2004, ubuntu.ca April 2005.
[01:35] <genii-around> Canonical has a brick and mortar location in Canada as well. Are there any suggestions as to how to proceed?
[01:45] <elky> contacting legal@ubuntu or whatever that email address probably
[01:45]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[01:45] <genii-around> elky: Ah, thanks. 
[01:58] <JanC> genii-around: if the domain isn't used in a way that might confuse people, it might be difficult to get it...
[01:59] <JanC> remember there are other companies & associations named Ubuntu
[02:00] <genii-around> JanC: I'm pretty sure GoDaddy just registered it to themself around Hoary release time to try and get some money. 
[02:01] <genii-around> ( whois:  Creation date:         2005/04/29"
[02:05]  * genii-around ponders if Ubuntu Cola has a Canadian office
[05:44] <czajkowski> it does vary tbh given the word ubuntu is used elsewhere outside of the ubuntu distro and community world 
[05:44] <pleia2> czajkowski: you're up early :)
[05:45] <czajkowski> can't sleep
[05:45] <nigelb> o/
[05:45] <czajkowski> doing mail and following up on irc stuff might help
[05:45] <nigelb> *yawn*
[05:46]  * pleia2 nods
[05:47] <nigelb> czajkowski: you've been up all night?
[05:47] <czajkowski> nope slept from about 1-5
[05:47] <czajkowski> now up 
[05:52] <czajkowski> oh it's pancake tuesday need to wait another hour before the local shop opens up to get the stuff to make pancakes
[07:59] <dholbach> good morning
[12:49] <andrejz> hello
[12:49] <andrejz> i have a question about dates for UGJ
[12:50] <andrejz> on the wiki it states it's going to occur from March 1st to March 3rd
[12:51] <czajkowski> yes
[12:51] <andrejz> however if one looks at release schedule - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule
[12:51] <andrejz> beta release will be on March 28th
[12:52] <andrejz> shouldn't UGJ be a weekend after beta release so it can be tested
[12:52] <czajkowski> nope we've never done it that way 
[12:52] <czajkowski> nothing to stop teams having their own jam their weekend if they want
[12:52] <czajkowski> but this is the weekend that was chosen it's the weekend before feature freeze
[12:53] <andrejz> sure we have. every other UGJ was the first weekend after beta was released
[12:54] <czajkowski> andrejz: well this was when this one was chosen
[12:54] <czajkowski> dont know what else to say 
[12:54] <czajkowski> mail jono perhaps as it was him as far as I can tell that chose it 
[12:54] <andrejz> for 12.04 it was one month earlier, because beta was released 1 month earlier (because 12.04 was LTS)
[12:55] <andrejz> but for all the other .04 releases UGJ were around the first week of april
[12:55] <czajkowski> andrejz: like I say we didn't chose it, hell I didnt know about it till randall mailed loco contacts list 
[12:55] <andrejz> ok, i understand
[12:56] <andrejz> so i should email Jono to suggest date change?
[12:57] <czajkowski> it's a bit late to change it tbh 
[12:58] <czajkowski> but yes mail him if you'd like 
[12:58] <andrejz> thanks for the info
[12:58] <czajkowski> again no idea why it was chosen perhaps there was a reason, but he wasn't the one that mailed the list 
[12:58] <czajkowski> so not sure
[12:58] <czajkowski> sorry
[12:58] <czajkowski> dholbach: any ideas why it was chosen then ?
[13:01] <andrejz> czajkowski: my guess is: probably because it's exactly 1 year after 12.04 global jam
[13:02] <andrejz> but 12.04 was an exception because beta was released earlier (LTS release)
[13:51] <dholbach> czajkowski, there were some conferences I think
[13:52] <dholbach> czajkowski, pleia2 and jcastro probably know
[13:52] <dholbach> and balloons too
[16:05] <czajkowski> genii-around: many people also use the word ubuntu in their counteries and not use it in the way we would
[16:05] <czajkowski> so they can use the ubuntu.iso if they chose tbh
[16:07] <genii-around> In Canada the word Ubuntu has no traditional meaning as in perhaps some African nation or so on. So I'm not sure that it's a valid claim as far as that goes.
[16:07] <czajkowski> it is though
[16:07] <czajkowski> it has no valid claim in ireland either 
[16:07] <czajkowski> or in other languages, if people wish to use the domain they can 
[16:07] <czajkowski> unless they are using it in a way that would upset the trademark 
[16:09] <genii-around> Hm.
[16:11] <czajkowski> genii-around: it's  a word that was long around before canonical used it :)
[16:11] <genii-around> Well, yes. 
[16:12] <genii-around> Seeing as how the -qc team used to have it perhaps I'll go talk to one of them about it...
[17:10] <pleia2> UGJ is being done right before feature freeze, after the betas are released gets a bit late for a lot of changes to come in, we want to catch the QA stuff much earlier than the betas
[17:11] <pleia2> the day after beta1 last cycle meant that we had a lot of broken ISOs for the jam, since everyone saved up all their changes until right after the beta1
[17:11] <pleia2> so the daily that weekend was a bit of a mess
[17:12] <pleia2> we had an installer that crashed upon boot (you could still get into the livecd and launch it from there, but it was not awesome)
[17:14] <pleia2> anyway, we'll see how it goes, if it doesn't go well we'll change it next cycle :)