[07:06] <Atamira> anyone here under snap for their isp?
[07:07] <ajmitch> yep
[07:07] <Atamira> good?
[07:08] <Atamira> werent you the one that issues when you first started with them?
[07:08] <ajmitch> hads was
[07:08] <ajmitch> they're mostly pretty good now
[07:08] <Atamira> steady d/l rates then?
[07:08] <ajmitch> yeah
[07:09] <Atamira> im having to move from orcon. i dont want to be under a contract
[07:09] <Atamira> and the plan im on is soo old is obsolete now
[07:26] <ajmitch> I think snap have at least 12 month terms for any of their DSL or UFB plans
[07:35] <hads> Yeah they do require a contract
[07:40] <hads> I'm pretty happy with them. They are still working through an upload issue with my connection.
[07:45] <hads> Anyone have thoughts on using a pair of SSDs for a VM host server?
[07:48] <Atamira> sigh
[07:48] <Atamira> i dont want a contract
[08:27] <G> hads: depends if SSDs still have the 'too much I/O kills the disk' issues - maybe preventable if you use some sort of Direct I/O for the guests  (assuming you are talking about guests on the SSDs)
[08:29] <hads> G: Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. They have come a long way now.
[08:32] <G> hads: I think assuming you either partitioned the SSDs, or used something like LVM on top of the SSDs, you'd be able to use say KVM+virtio+directio and not have to worry about it as much, but I've tried to stay clear of SSDs myself atm
[08:35] <hads> I've been using them in my laptop/desktop and appliances for quite some time now, just unsure about servers.
[08:35] <hads> I currently use KVM with a mixture of file images and LVM with virtio.
[08:36] <G> yeah, I've heard about SSDs in servers for a while but a lot of them were things like SSDs that basically ran a read-only copy of their Oracle DB because they did crazy amounts of reads
[08:37] <G> that thinking back is going on 3-4 years, so it's not a crazy idea
[08:37] <hads> I've had one SSD die on me and one that is acting strangely now. Both older OCZ drives, all the newer ones I've got are Intel and none have failed as yet.
[08:38] <G> hmmm, I must confess, I'm thinking of trying the Crucial SSDs (I got a Crucial mSATA for my NUC which doesn't seem too bad)
[09:27] <mwhudson> hads, G: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7PJ1oeEyGg
[09:35] <hads> :)
[09:38] <G> hmmm helps if I plug my headphones into the right machine
[09:38] <G> might what that later :)
[09:41] <mwhudson> G: the summary is "if you are not using ssds (everywhere) you are wasting your life"
[18:44] <olly> morning
[19:16] <hads> morning
[19:18] <Atamira> morning
[19:42] <ajmitch> morning
[19:49] <mwhudson> morning
[20:09] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:17] <thumper> morning
[20:54] <chilts> morning