[04:17] <pitti> Good morning
[04:31] <smartboyhw> balloons, PING
[04:31] <balloons> smartboyhw, :-p
[04:31] <smartboyhw> balloons, you are still here!!!!
[04:31] <smartboyhw> YEAH!!!
[04:31] <balloons> we can't fix legacy testcases
[04:31] <smartboyhw> balloons, er:P
[04:31] <balloons> had a big todo this morning :-(
[04:31] <smartboyhw> That's sad
[04:32] <smartboyhw> balloons, BTW where is the hangout session you did yesterday?
[04:32] <smartboyhw> I mean the video at YouTube
[04:32] <balloons> it's on youtube
[04:32] <smartboyhw> balloons, link
[04:32] <balloons> quality kind of sucks :-( I'm going to use screencasts
[04:32] <balloons> it's 480p but looks horribel
[04:32] <balloons> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOkbMiyJIbI
[04:32] <smartboyhw> balloons, oh don't worry
[04:33] <smartboyhw> balloons, BTW you do know my new time for the ISO test Classroom session right?
[04:38] <balloons> umm thursday yes?
[04:38] <balloons> valentine's day
[04:38] <balloons> ?
[04:39] <balloons> happy new year btw!
[04:40] <smartboyhw> balloons, NO?
[04:40] <smartboyhw> balloons, thx
[04:40] <smartboyhw> balloons, it's on Wednesday:P
[04:40] <smartboyhw> Same time
[04:41] <balloons> ahh k
[04:41] <balloons> well, as usual, it's my bedtime here smartboyhw :-)
[04:41] <smartboyhw> balloons, grrrr:P
[04:41] <balloons> life is more fun 12 hours apart right?
[04:41] <smartboyhw> chilicui1, your merge is in!
[04:41] <smartboyhw> balloons, yeah.
[04:42] <chilicui1> smartboyhw: thanks!
[04:45] <balloons> smartboyhw, 晚安
[04:45] <smartboyhw> balloons, good night:)
[04:45] <balloons> thanks for staying on top of testing and doing the merges :-)
[04:45] <smartboyhw> balloons, :)
[05:38] <smartboyhw> chilicui1, here:P
[05:38] <smartboyhw> I think that we can clarify it more better anyway
[05:40] <chilicui1> yes, it would help smartboyhw
[05:40] <smartboyhw> chilicui1, so then: After you finished fixing it I would merge. balloons please put chilicui1 into the testcase admins team:P
[05:42] <chilicui1> smartboyhw: but I'm just to request a merge if someone can explain the second issue, the 3rd testcase moves the file 'moveme.txt' instead of copying, at least in my setup, smartboyhw can you try to reproduce the issue?, so we can clarify it?
[05:42] <smartboyhw> chilicui1, clearly balloons has a wrong Nautilus
[05:42] <smartboyhw> LOL
[05:45] <chilicui1> smartboyhw: =P
[05:45] <smartboyhw> =P
[07:56] <jibel> good morning
[07:58] <pitti> bonjour jibel
[08:01] <jibel> Bonjour pitti !
[08:02] <jibel> merci pour l'annonce à propos de JHbuild
[08:02] <pitti> jibel: de rien, mon plaisir!
[08:04] <dholbach> good morning
[08:04] <dholbach> qu'est-ce qui se passe ici aujourd'hui? :)
[08:05] <pitti> dholbach: pas encore beaucoup, seulement dire bonjour :)
[08:06]  * pitti te donne une accolade
[08:08] <dholbach> ok, très bien :)
[08:11] <dholbach> jibel, merci beaucoup pour améliorer le packaging guide
[08:11] <jibel> dholbach, de rien mon ami. Ma 1ere contribution :)
[08:13] <dholbach> mais où sont les traducteurs français? https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-packaging-guide/ :)
[08:13] <dholbach> on a seulement les traductions Russe et Espagnol
[08:14] <dholbach> je vais essayer de traduire un page chacque jour
[08:14] <dholbach> ... en Allemand :)
[08:15] <jibel> first untranslated string in French: Current French: 		(no translation yet)
[08:16] <jibel> :)
[08:16] <jibel> nm, I misread rosetta
[08:19] <jibel> hm, some suggestions in French really look like google translated strings
[09:55] <dholbach> jibel, http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/auto-pkg-test.html should be updated now
[09:57] <jibel> dholbach, great, thanks!
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[10:27] <dholbach> wow, there are 4 sponsorship requests for autopkgtests :)
[10:46] <pitti> dholbach: nice!
[12:32] <pitti> jibel: people love jhbuild in jenkins!
[12:32] <pitti> jibel: already got a discussion with Tim from gstreamer, and Phil fixed folks
[12:33] <pitti> jibel: and hughsie fixed the failing colord test, we just need the systemd libraries now
[12:33] <pitti> jibel: I'll build them from debian testing and install the libraries in the VM, is that ok for you?
[12:33] <pitti> jibel: testing gnome upstream without the systemd libs is going to be harder and harder, and also much less useful for upstream
[12:34] <pitti> jibel: (I have a local build of v195 here, and they work just fine)
[12:49] <jibel> pitti, that's really fantastic, I didn't expect it would be so well received. go ahead with systemd libraries.
[13:58] <vibhav> pitti: Could you have alook at some of the autopkgtesttests I wrote?
[14:01] <vibhav> autopkgtest*
[14:28] <pitti> vibhav: sure, where can I find them? sponsoring queue?
[14:29] <vibhav> pitti: yep
[14:33]  * vibhav wrote tests for libxcb, libcaca and firestring
[14:33] <pitti> vibhav: found 3 of them; testbed building now, will do them
[14:33] <pitti> vibhav: can you please forward them to Debian, too
[14:33] <vibhav> thanks!
[14:34] <pitti> vibhav: also, are you sure about +# (C) 2012 Canonical Ltd. ?
[14:34] <vibhav> Why?
[14:34] <pitti> credit where credit is due :)
[14:34] <vibhav> pitti: So, who owns the copyright?
[14:35] <pitti> vibhav: you, if you wrote it
[14:35] <vibhav> pitti: I trust Canonical with all my code
[14:35] <vibhav> :)
[14:35] <pitti> vibhav: it's not wrong to defer it to Canonical if you are fine with that, of course (that will actually be a good choice if it ever comes to a lawsuit)
[14:36] <pitti> vibhav: ok, just wanted to make sure it wasn't just an unintended copy&paste thing :)
[14:36] <vibhav> Nope, I am completely okay
[14:37] <pitti> vibhav: I'll add -Wall -Werror for extra scrutiny
[14:37] <pitti> vibhav: we are in sync for libxcb so far, so it's especially important to get this into Debian, too
[14:37] <vibhav> Indeed. I will forward the debdiff
[14:38] <pitti> cheers!
[14:38] <vibhav> :)
[14:39] <vibhav> I was reading the glib API. Then I can contribute even more extensively :)
[14:41] <vibhav> Talking about forwarding it to Debian, should I forward the diff that Launchpad generates?
[14:42] <pitti> vibhav: can you please forward them to Debian, toohttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/raring/libxcb/raring/diff/34 minus the Maintainer: bit
[14:43] <pitti> I'll test it in a VM before uploading
[14:45] <vibhav> Sure
[14:47] <pitti> vibhav: hold on, libxcb failure
[14:47] <pitti> vibhav: I guess because of the missing xvfb test dep, verifying
[14:48] <vibhav> ah yes, I forgot
[14:48]  * vibhav slaps forhead
[14:49] <pitti> no worries
[14:49] <pitti> vibhav: I push --overwrite the patch
[14:50] <vibhav> Ok, I will forward the correct diff
[14:50] <pitti> meh, still failing, hang on
[14:50] <pitti> libxcb_test.c: In function ‘main’:
[14:50] <pitti> libxcb_test.c:8:6: error: unused variable ‘i’ [-Werror=unused-variable]
[14:50] <pitti> ah, that was me because of -Werror
[14:51] <pitti> ok, dropping "int i"
[14:51] <pitti> vibhav: push --overwrite done; third time's the charm!
[14:52] <smartboyhw> balloons, phillw PING
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[14:52] <pitti> uh, screampings
[14:54] <vibhav> Thanks
[14:56] <pitti> vibhav: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/raring/libcaca/raring/diff/27 is good to forward, verified; uploading
[14:56] <vibhav> Perfect
[14:58]  * vibhav is at dinner, will forward diff later
[14:58] <pitti> firestring_test: firestring_test.c:10: test_baselib: Assertion `firestring_estr_base64_encode(&dest, &source) == 0' failed.
[14:59] <vibhav> Weird
[14:59] <vibhav> It had not failed for me :\
[14:59] <SergioMeneses> morning!
[15:00]  * vibhav gulps down dinner
[15:01] <pitti> vibhav: no worries, enjoy dinner!
[15:06] <balloons> hey smartboyhw
[15:06] <smartboyhw> balloons, hey
[15:06] <smartboyhw> balloons, so make sure you appear in the session tomorrow:)
[15:07] <balloons> 2 hours from now, but tomorrow
[15:07] <balloons> wait
[15:07] <balloons> no, two hours ago, but tomorrow.. so in 22 hours
[15:08] <balloons> by the way, my nautilus does copy it.. I can even try again :-)
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[15:09] <balloons> it's all on video.. so it happened :-
[15:10] <smartboyhw> balloons, yep
[15:14] <vibhav> pitti: The base64_encode fails probably as the source doesnt have data which can be encoded
[15:15] <vibhav> pitti: But even if it fails, it will be sufficient to test if the headers are correctly installed :)
[15:16] <pitti> vibhav: can't you feed it some fixed string or so?
[15:16] <pitti> vibhav: or add a dependency package? (NB, I have absolutely no clue what it's doing)
[15:16] <vibhav> No problems with dependency though
[15:17] <vibhav> I will probably feed some data into the string
[15:20] <vibhav> Okay, its fixed now
[15:24] <vibhav> pitti: pushed.
[15:25] <pitti> hm, still the same error
[15:27] <vibhav> pitti: Weird. Could you compile this locally and check http://paste.ubuntu.com/1639691/
[15:27] <vibhav> (wfm)
[15:28] <pitti> vibhav: not here, same result
[15:28] <pitti> + ./firestring_test
[15:28] <pitti> firestring_test: firestring_test.c:11: test_baselib: Assertion `firestring_estr_base64_encode(&dest, &source) == 0' failed.
[15:29] <pitti> vibhav: may it be that there is some confusion between dest and source?
[15:29] <pitti> vibhav: i. e. maybe you want to do the firestring_estr_sprintf into &source?
[15:30] <pitti> it works with that
[15:30] <pitti>         firestring_estr_sprintf(&source, "autopkgtest");
[15:30] <vibhav> ah yes
[15:31] <vibhav> pitti: I need to go. Could you please upload the change?
[15:31] <pitti> vibhav: sure
[15:31] <balloons> smartboyhw, ok, your in the calendar :-)
[15:31] <smartboyhw> balloons, LOL
[15:32] <smartboyhw> Thx
[15:32] <vibhav> Thanks
[15:34] <vibhav> pitti: I am having exams soon. So, thanks for cooperating :)
[15:34] <pitti> ubtree0t-build       PASS
[15:34] <pitti> theeere you go
[15:34] <pitti> vibhav: oh, good luck with those! and thanks for your work!
[15:34] <smartboyhw> balloons, very interesting that only Kubuntu is going to have an Alpha 2
[15:35] <vibhav> \o/
[15:35] <balloons> I'm going to post again about the remaining sessions
[15:35] <balloons> why's that interesting?
[15:35] <vibhav> Ok, I need to go. See you guys soon!
[15:35]  * pitti holds up the "rolling release yeah!" banner
[15:36] <smartboyhw> pitti, LOL
[15:36] <pitti> I actually think we've come quite far with that idea, given how "boring" raring is
[15:36] <smartboyhw> balloons, LOL
[15:36] <pitti> I had only one real hiccup this cycle, with the occasional intel freeze on arrandale
[15:36] <balloons> indeed..
[15:36] <pitti> there were times where we had such bugs in the final release
[15:37] <pitti> not sure how it's working out for other people
[15:38] <pitti> heck, even lightdm is saying "13.04" properly :)
[15:38]  * pitti was about to make a snide remark of that being a really devastating bug, when noticing that even that got fixed already
[15:39] <balloons> I can't say I've ran into much that is devastating persay
[15:40] <balloons> Most of the issues came from using newer versions of things.. for instance, PIL got a little funny for me at one point
[15:40] <pitti> the raring-proposed staging area has made a huge difference from my POV
[15:40] <balloons> I always seem to find a perl or python library every cycle and find how it breaks something I'm doing
[15:46] <phillw> smartboyhw: pong
[15:47] <balloons> SergioMeneses, kk, the mass convertor is running.. let's see what mess we ca nmake
[15:47] <SergioMeneses> balloons, perfect!
[15:47] <smartboyhw> phillw, balloons doesn't even know of my session time till 11 hours later:P
[15:48] <phillw> hmm, not sure what happened there... did you not email him?
[15:48] <smartboyhw> phillw, I DID
[15:49] <smartboyhw> phillw, later = earlier
[15:50] <phillw> smartboyhw: does the correct date show on the classroom area?
[15:50] <smartboyhw> phillw, I did change it
[15:54] <phillw> smartboyhw: not https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom Did the classroom team change the date on their schedule?
[15:59] <smartboyhw> phillw, yes
[15:59] <phillw> okies, I llok forward to the session tomorrow :)
[15:59] <phillw> *look*
[16:00] <smartboyhw> phillw, :)
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[16:12] <balloons> SergioMeneses, hmm.. some came out quite good
[16:13] <SergioMeneses> lol
[16:13] <balloons> http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/qatracker/milestones/246/builds/27878/testcases/1424/results
[16:13] <SergioMeneses> my isp hates me
[16:13] <balloons> it's just a bit off.. going to adjust the script and re-run
[16:17] <pitti> jibel: is bin/jhbuild.cron from any VCS or autogenerated? I added $no_proxy to it, trying whether that works
[16:17] <pitti> jibel: (no_proxy for 127.0.0.1, as otherwise tests which use localhost for testing will hang/fail)
[16:42] <balloons> SergioMeneses, https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-manual-tests/massconversion
[16:42] <balloons> this is the mass converson
[16:43] <balloons> I'd like another pair of eyes to have a look at it..
[16:48] <jibel> pitti, it's from lp:~jibel/charms/raring/jhbuild/trunk/
[16:48] <Mawaheb> Hello everyone, i have a questions , what is the Ubuntu sso ?
[16:48] <pitti> jibel: ah, I did grep that for "proxy" without a result
[16:49] <pitti> jibel: so it looks like you added the http_proxy variables manually on the checkout?
[16:49] <jibel> pitti, uhoh, could be :)
[16:49] <jibel> so go ahead and change the file locally
[16:50] <pitti> d'accord
[17:06] <SergioMeneses> balloons, sure!
[17:07] <balloons> SergioMeneses, here's the merge request
[17:07] <balloons> https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-manual-tests/massconversion/+merge/147982
[17:22] <Mawaheb> hello everyone
[17:22] <Mawaheb> i need some advice
[17:22] <balloons> Mawaheb, sure
[17:22] <Mawaheb> Hello balloons
[17:23] <Mawaheb> i want you to correct me if i am wrong
[17:23] <Mawaheb> as i understod from the wiki and from the casts
[17:23] <Mawaheb> that the testing goes through this steps
[17:23] <Mawaheb> 1-regestring,
[17:23] <Mawaheb> 2-installing testdrive and VM
[17:23] <Mawaheb> 3-running TD to download the iso
[17:23] <Mawaheb> 4-Running the iso and applying the testcase on it
[17:24] <Mawaheb> 5-reporting bug or pass
[17:24] <Mawaheb> is that correct ?
[17:25] <balloons> Mawaheb, yes, if you want to use testdrive to help test the image, that's the right steps to take
[17:26] <Mawaheb> that's nice :) , i am doing this as first step to dive in, and get used to the new stuff, and i will go further step by step after finishing and getting used to this :)
[17:29] <balloons> Mawaheb, yes, excellent idea :-)
[17:29] <balloons> let us know if you get stuck anywhere :-)
[17:30] <Mawaheb> sure balloons, now the iso sync is going on TestDrive and i will do all after ... let me thank you again for your efforts in helping :)
[17:30] <SergioMeneses> balloons, ping
[17:30] <SergioMeneses> balloons, all testcases are ok https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-manual-tests/massconversion/+merge/147982 they are with the correct new format
[17:33] <balloons> SergioMeneses, have you ever done a review?
[17:33] <balloons> SergioMeneses, thank you for checking ;-)
[17:34] <SergioMeneses> balloons, a Lp review?
[17:34] <balloons> basically you can add your approval to the merge
[17:34] <balloons> yes
[17:34] <balloons> if you haven't, great time to learn
[17:34] <SergioMeneses> balloons, show me, I was adding a comment
[17:34] <balloons> since I wrote the code, and it's such a massive change, I have someone else review it.. and merge t
[17:35] <balloons> You can hit claim review, and then approve or otherwise comment on it
[17:35] <balloons> since this is so big I'll probably get one other person to review as well.. then they will issue the merge and commit to trunk
[17:35] <balloons> I think this will direct link you: https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-manual-tests/massconversion/+merge/147982/+review?claim=ubuntu-testcase&review_type=
[17:36] <SergioMeneses> balloons, kk check it
[17:37] <SergioMeneses> https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-manual-tests/massconversion/+merge/147982
[17:37] <balloons> nicely done!
[17:38] <balloons> now in this case, I'm going to ask for one more person to check it
[17:38] <balloons> but normally once reviewed you could then do the merge command
[17:38] <balloons> bzr merge lp:~nskaggs/ubuntu-manual-tests/massconversion
[17:38] <balloons> make sure you have an up to date copy of the trunk first
[17:38] <balloons> then issue the merge
[17:38] <balloons> then push it to trunk and it's in ;-)
[17:38] <SergioMeneses> balloons, :)
[17:38] <balloons> you would then set the status to merged
[17:38] <balloons> and we'd be all set
[17:38] <balloons> make sense?
[17:39] <SergioMeneses> balloons, yes
[17:40] <SergioMeneses> balloons, btw you can edit the status from launchpad as well
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[18:34] <SergioMeneses> ok guys I have to go, see you later
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[19:28] <Mawaheb> Hello all, after Sychronizing the image in TestDrive, i want to follow the test case prosedure, for example it says that i should start a live session, so now at this point, should i do that in the VM ? or to burn the iso and do it on my Physical laptop
[19:30] <Mawaheb> anyone?
[19:30] <chilicuil> Mawaheb: you can do it both ways, if you're going to test hardware testcases it would be better to do it in real hardware, if you're going to do test installation and software testcases both works ok
[19:31] <Mawaheb> ok , thanks
[19:31] <Mawaheb> one last question
[19:31] <Mawaheb> is there any way to make sure that the test case am reading online is exactly for the image that i did sync on TestDrive ?
[19:32] <Mawaheb> other than name for the image in TestDrive
[19:34] <chilicuil> Mawaheb: no, but I don't think that's a issue, testdrive download the last ubuntu development version and the testcases are intented to be used on that too
[19:35] <Mawaheb> ok, sounds nice, thanks
[19:35] <chilicuil> you'll be safe as far as you sync the image before start testing
[19:37] <balloons> yes, if you sync before you test, you can be assured to have the latest iso
[20:05] <balloons> afternoon letozaf_ Noskcaj
[20:05] <Noskcaj> hey balloons
[20:06] <balloons> I'm feeling new zealandy.. rofl
[20:06]  * balloons is listening to LOTR soundtrack
[20:07] <balloons> so, more seriously, how's the week been treating you? your back at school now yes?
[20:09] <letozaf_> hi balloons
[20:10] <Noskcaj> balloons, yeah, back at school. had air force cadets last night and got free clothes from it
[20:11] <Noskcaj> i'm listening to the candence week podcast. so much um, ahh...
[20:11] <balloons> Noskcaj, :-p it was live
[20:11] <balloons> nothing like talking to yourself for an hour.. I hope it's not TOO bad
[20:11] <Noskcaj> true, also, 1080p makes things better. it's fairly good though
[20:11] <ssbob> balloons, you host a podcast?
[20:12] <Noskcaj> why didn't you use testdrive?
[20:12] <balloons> ssbob, no, he's talking about the livestream you were around for
[20:12] <ssbob> ah ok
[20:12] <balloons> Noskcaj, I wanted to show off other was to do it
[20:12] <balloons> and testdrive is broken on 4.2 remember?
[20:12] <Noskcaj> balloons, oh yeah.
[20:13] <balloons> so literally, that was me going through the testcases.. exactly as I would do it
[20:13] <Noskcaj> and unit193 fixed it
[20:13] <Noskcaj> ok, lol
[20:13] <ssbob> balloons, speaking of test cases. For week 6 there are 3 listed (alsa, empathy, and nautilus) ... is there more?
[20:13] <balloons> ssbob, for the cadence week package tests, no
[20:13] <balloons> we have the slew of image tests for the daily images
[20:14] <balloons> and like icing on the cake, this week also happens to be a release week for 12.04.2
[20:14] <ssbob> yeah I gotta install vbox on my ubuntu vm first
[20:14] <ssbob> ubutu inception if you will
[20:14] <balloons> we typically go after 2 or 3 things each cadence week
[20:15] <ssbob> yeah I was moving to the image testing next
[20:17] <balloons> ahh.. yes, in addition, because of the 12.04.2 release Sergio put out a milestone to do hardware testing on it
[20:17] <balloons> that was the mail from this morning
[20:17] <balloons> so that's yet another opportunity :-)
[20:18] <balloons> as I mentioned, great week to pick stuff up, plenty to choose from :-p
[20:24] <ssbob> indeed
[20:33] <balloons> hello chilicuil
[20:34] <chilicuil> hi, good morning balloons
[20:34] <phillw> ssbob: you may find it easier to install virt-manager.. VBox is somewhat in a state of flux on 12.10
[20:34] <ssbob> good call, I will check it out
[20:35] <ssbob> or just run them in vmware workstation on my work machine. 13.04 worked out of the box
[20:36] <balloons> there's actually a test for vmware easy install
[20:37] <ssbob> for raring or precise?
[20:37] <balloons> in the images
[20:37] <balloons> the desktop images.. you'll see it
[20:38] <phillw> ssbob: for both, a fix needed for libguest has been applied to quantal.
[20:39] <phillw> I do not think it has been applied to precise, I did not request that on the SRU
[20:39] <ssbob> yeah I see it thanks
[20:39] <balloons> ssbob, for example; http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/37463/testcases/1304/results
[20:40] <ssbob> that is the one I am on, filling out the result now :)
[20:40] <phillw> ssbob: libguest is not needed for virt-manager, it just adds extra functionality for pulling data from a crashed VM
[20:42] <ssbob> balloons, you think there is a problem using vmware workstation rather than vmware player (as the test case indicates)?
[20:42] <ssbob> I think they are the same under the hood, workstation just adds features and costs $$
[20:42] <balloons> yes, I don't see an issue
[20:42] <balloons> but I've not used vmware stuff in some time
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[20:42] <balloons> I would assume it would be the same for workstation
[20:42] <ssbob> I did indicate what product I used in the results, in case it matters to someone.
[20:43] <balloons> it worked tho eh?
[20:43] <ssbob> flawlessly
[20:43] <balloons> we could update the testcase assuming t works in both
[20:43] <balloons> cool.. perhaps there is a contribution in your future :-)
[20:43] <ssbob> even autosized the resolution automagically
[20:45] <ssbob> balloons, you know anything about the memory test tests? The amber screen it indicates, is that while booting from the iso or will that also work on a full install?
[20:46] <balloons> the memtests are an option on the iso boot
[20:46] <ssbob> roger that, thanks
[20:47] <balloons> give'm a whirl :-)
[20:47] <ssbob> oh I am whirling ;)
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[21:38] <ssbob> balloons, I have to say there is something very satisfying about running through test cases. Maybe a little competitive?
[21:39] <balloons> hmm..  I agree.. it's a bit of a high if you find a bug that is non-trivial and the more serious the better, haha
[21:40] <balloons> but it's also quite satisfying to not break things.. makes you feel really good about the software
[21:40] <ssbob> I much prefer to see a test case pass with flying colors, bugs suck.
[21:40] <balloons> yes.. and there's more work if you find bugs!
[21:41] <balloons> for everyone
[21:41] <balloons> I like trying to break things and finding those exceptions are handled properly
[21:41] <balloons> it is a nice feeling
[21:43] <ssbob> in my software engineering classes, QA was not a fun part. But like this, I am actually enjoying it. Never thought I would say that.
[22:01] <balloons> did we lose Letzoaf? ahh indeed
[22:01] <ssbob> yeah bout 20 minutes ago
[22:03] <balloons> I was going to verify her ARM testing stuff