[03:28] <pndemc> How can I renice by process name instead of PID?
[06:25] <RelenScotia> Hey everyone
[06:26] <RelenScotia> so if I want to create a ubuntu server 12.04 LTS on OSX for a server
[06:27] <RelenScotia> I should use the OSX tut for creating a bootable flash drive?
[07:19] <railsraider> hi, i get this error: modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.32-311-ec2/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[07:19] <railsraider> can it be fixed? or do i have to bring up a new server
[07:29] <chmac> How do I enable apache / mysql to start on boot?
[07:29] <chmac> I thought they did, but apparently they don't, arg!
[07:51] <aguuu> Would anybody recommend a linux distro for amazon cloud services? I am a beginner to linux servers. I just want to install apache, php, maybe node.js and python, etc. Run my own DNS server.
[07:55] <aguuu> Do you know how to use the free tier storage when creating a compute unit at amazon cloud?
[07:55] <chmac> aguuu: You're on the ubuntu-server channel right?
[07:56] <chmac> aguuu: ubuntu-server is a fine choice if you're looking for a generic server...
[07:56] <chmac> Otherwise amazon spin their own distro I think, but I've always used ubuntu on ec2
[07:56] <aguuu> yes i am
[07:56] <aguuu> but i'm a little scared of not having the UI. is it easy to install?
[07:56] <chmac> aguuu: Amazon will do all the installing for you, all you need to do is log in.
[07:57] <aguuu> yes but then i have to install apache, php, etc etc
[07:57] <chmac> You'll be able to log in over ssh and then you'll need to install services / etc with commands like `sudo apt-get install mysql-server`
[07:58] <aguuu> hmm
[07:58] <aguuu> is it easy enough to install X and VNC, etc? or should i start with ubuntu desktop instead?
[08:00] <chmac> aguuu: Unless you have a burning need to get this up and running immediately with the least possible hassle, I'd suggest you buckle up and get ready to learn how to use the console...
[08:00] <chmac> aguuu: The basic steps of installing are pretty simple, linode has some great howtos, so did the one that was acquired by rackspace
[08:01] <aguuu> yes. that's what i plan to do
[08:01] <aguuu> but just in case i struggle too much. is it easy enough to install all the desktop stuff?
[08:01] <chmac> I don't know, I don't have any experience with running desktops on servers.
[08:02] <chmac> aguuu: I'd guess it'll be easier to fix the issue with the terminal than to install a desktop
[08:02] <aguuu> lol
[08:02] <chmac> Whatever work is involved in installing the desktop is presumably equally or more complicated as installing whatever server tools you want...
[08:02] <chmac> aguuu: slicehost, they had some great articles, if they're still online
[08:02] <chmac> Otherwise linode still does
[08:03] <aguuu> should i use ubuntu server 12.10 or 12.04 LTE ?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> !LTS|aguuu,
[08:05] <aguuu> so. don't the updates for 12.04 make it exactly like 12.10? so why would one be supported and not the other?
[08:05] <aguuu> if i do update the 12.04, will it become 12.10 ?
[08:07] <cfhowlett> aguuu, 12.04 is 12.04.  You can update 12.04 to future point releases of 12.04 e.g. 12.04.1.  A distro release is required to upgrade to 12.10 ....
[08:07] <aguuu> ohh ok.
[08:43] <chmac> Just upgraded mysql-server and now I'm getting a ton of weird errors and mysql is not running properly.
[08:44] <chmac> Anyone experienced the same thing when upgrading to the latest release on precise?
[10:42] <zetheroo>  trying to install ubuntu server 12.04 here and it's failing at Select and Install Software
[10:42] <zetheroo> it gets to trying to load tasksel and then fails
[10:49] <rbasak> !details | zetheroo
[10:50] <zetheroo> not sure what other info you need!? hardware? ... partitioning setup?
[10:50] <rbasak> Please elaborate on "fails". The way in which it fails is crucially important to understanding your problem.
[10:51] <zetheroo> gives a message saying something about going back to the install menu and trying again ...
[10:51] <zetheroo> I have tried this with no success
[10:51] <zetheroo> keeps failing at the same place
[10:52] <rbasak> Please post the *exact* message. And now that I know you're getting back to the install menu, I know that I can ask you go select the "Save debug logs" option from the install menu you've been taken back to so you can post that as well.
[10:52] <rbasak> Then somebody may be able to help.
[10:52] <ogra_> also file a bug and attach the logs there
[10:53] <zetheroo> I won't be able to post much since I will have to retype whatever I post :P
[10:53] <ogra_> ?
[10:54] <ogra_> do what rbasak said above ... save the logs somewhere, attach them to a bug
[10:55] <zetheroo> Installation step failed! An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: Select and install software.
[10:55] <zetheroo> that is the full message
[10:55] <zetheroo> what happens if I skip it?
[10:56] <ogra_> your install will be incomplete
[10:56] <ogra_> (and probably fail again in later steps
[10:56] <ogra_> )
[10:56] <rbasak> OK, so go to "Save debug logs" in the menu, and post those somewhere.
[10:56] <ogra_> file a bug. attach the logs so someone can look at them
[10:57] <ogra_> from the error text exposed in the UI its hard to judge what the actual error is
[11:14] <hatake> what answer this What is the third word in the following list? elm odd not fruit drift snow heavy mindful
[11:14] <hatake> ?
[11:18] <zetheroo> I burnt another copy to CD and its working now :)
[11:19] <ogra_> great
[12:20] <Skaag> any way to reboot a server by simulating a reset button?
[12:20] <jpds> Skaag: Like, REISUB?
[12:21] <Skaag> I don't know what that is
[12:22] <Skaag> I have a machine that doesn't respond to 'reboot' and I want to force reboot it
[12:23] <RoyK> Skaag: press alt+sysrq and typs "S U B"
[12:23] <RoyK> s/typs/type/
[12:23] <Skaag> I connected via ssh
[12:24] <Skaag> I'm
[12:24] <RoyK> echo s > /proc/sysrq-trigger
[12:24] <RoyK> will sync, then u will remount all fs read-only
[12:24] <RoyK> then b will boot
[12:25] <Skaag> thanks, trying
[12:26] <Skaag> here goes nothing...
[12:26]  * Skaag is crossing his fingers
[12:27] <Skaag> the b caused the machine to immediately stop responding
[12:27] <Skaag> hoping it is rebooting now :)
[12:27] <Skaag> this is very good to know, I will make a note of that, and read more about /proc/sysrq-trigger
[12:29] <Skaag> server is back online
[12:29] <Skaag> RoyK: good stuff, thanks mate! :
[12:29] <Skaag> :-)
[12:30] <Skaag> if a filesystem is mounted, but read only, is fsck still not advised?
[12:31] <Skaag> its warning is quite scary to say the least
[12:31] <RoyK> Skaag: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key summarizes it
[12:31] <Skaag> thanks!
[12:31] <RoyK> Skaag: you can fsck a filesystem mounted read only
[12:31] <RoyK> just don't do it if it's mounted rw
[12:31] <jpds> Skaag: Like I said: REISUB. :)
[12:34] <zetheroo> I would like to be able to do ssh root@machine ... but it says Permission denied, please try again
[12:34] <zetheroo> I am used to doing this command on debian systems ... but it does not seem to work in ubuntu ..
[12:35] <zetheroo> is it possible to get this working?
[12:35] <RoyK> zetheroo: have you set a root password?
[12:35] <RoyK> zetheroo: most people use sudo these days...
[12:35] <ogra_> zetheroo, the root account is locked by dfault in all ubuntu installs
[12:35] <zetheroo> RoyK: ah, no I did not
[12:36] <ogra_> so you need to set a password or copy a proper key in place
[12:36] <zetheroo> ok
[12:36]  * ogra_ would recommend the use of sudo though
[12:36] <RoyK> ogra_: password auth works too
[12:36]  * RoyK too
[12:36] <ogra_> especially on servers
[12:36] <ogra_> RoyK, if you have a password ;)
[12:36] <RoyK> indeed
[12:36] <Skaag> can I go to single user mode via ssh?
[12:36] <zetheroo> but there is an issue with not being able to ssh as root
[12:37] <ogra_> Skaag, man telinit
[12:38] <RoyK> Skaag: it may take down the network...
[12:38] <ogra_> yeah, very likely
[12:38] <alimj> Zetheroo: First enable root user, then check /etc/ssh/sshd_config and assure that it is allowed :PermitRootLogin yes
[12:38] <zetheroo> if I ssh as the user and run virt-manager it will not connect to libvirt - as it needs root perms ... so I then do 'sudo su' which takes me to user root ... then I can't open virt-manager because X is running under the other user that I ssh'ed into the machine with
[12:39] <ogra_> zetheroo, ugh, just use sudo as prefix of the command you want executed as root
[12:39] <ogra_> no need for sudo su
[12:39] <ogra_> and if you want to use X apps like that, prefix the sudo commend with DISPLAY=:0
[12:39] <alimj> zetheroo: If you should run lot's of commands as root, try sudo -i
[12:39] <ogra_> *command
[12:40] <zetheroo> ogra_: ok, that worked ... dunno why I did not think of that  :P thanks
[12:40] <zetheroo> alimj: what does sudo -i do?
[12:40] <ogra_> surely safer than setting a root pw ... which opens an additional attack vector :)
[12:40] <Kimmono> exit
[12:40] <ogra_> zetheroo, man sudo ;)
[12:40] <alimj> zetheroo: It will change to root until you exit
[12:41] <ogra_> its a good manpage to know anyway
[12:41] <zetheroo> alimj: ok thanks
[12:41] <alimj> Anytime
[12:42] <ogra_> "The -i (simulate initial login) option runs the shell specified by the password database entry of the target user as a login shell."
[12:42] <ogra_> the -s option is also an intresting one
[12:45] <zetheroo> how do I find out things like the version of qemu and libvirt running on my system? I tried 'dpkg -s qemu-common' but that does not give me the info I am looking for
[12:45] <ogra_> dpkg -l
[12:46] <zetheroo> that outputs : ii  qemu-common       1.0+noroms-0ubunt qemu common functionality (bios, documentati .....
[12:47] <zetheroo> I see a package version .... but what version of Qemu is that?
[12:47] <alimj> zetheroo: man dpkg. You can change the output of dpkg to include what you want
[12:49] <ogra_> i dont think -common is so intresting seem what other qemu packages you have
[12:49] <Skaag> I hate how long it takes to fsck a 1.5tb drive
[12:49] <alimj> zethero: or use dpkg-query
[12:49] <ogra_> COLUMNS=300 dpkg -l | grep qemu
[12:49] <ogra_> (that will also widen the fields to see the full version string)
[12:50] <ogra_> there should be something like qemu-system or qemu-kvm in the output
[12:50] <ogra_> which will have the upstream version beofr the -XubuntuX part
[12:54] <Skaag> is it possible to convert ext2 to ext3 or ext4?
[12:55] <ogra_> ext2 and 3 only differ through the added journal in ext3 ... so yes, that one is easy
[12:55] <ogra_> ext3 to ext4 is technically possible but a lot slower than a freshly formatted ext4 afaik
[12:56] <Skaag> I'm wondering if this patch made it to production fsck: http://lwn.net/Articles/264970/
[12:56] <Skaag> if ext3 fsck is indeed much faster, it's a good reason for me to convert an ext2 to ext3
[12:56] <Skaag> especially for large drives where fsck.ext2 is painfully slow
[12:57] <ogra_> who would use non journalled filesystems on a server anyway ?
[12:57] <Skaag> it has some benefits, speed wise
[12:57] <Skaag> (for certain scenarios)
[12:57] <zetheroo> tried a number of commands and cannot see the actual version of Qemu running?
[12:57] <ogra_> but you risk your data if there is a power outage
[12:57] <Skaag> right
[12:58] <ogra_> zetheroo, what did the command i gave you above output ?
[12:59] <zetheroo> dpkg -l ... that?
[13:00] <zetheroo> or COLUMNS=300 dpkg -l | grep qemu ?
[13:00] <ogra_> right, the latter one
[13:00] <alimj> zethero: Did you try dpkg-query?
[13:00] <ogra_> you should have gotten a list of packages with their versions
[13:00] <ogra_> the part before the first - is the upstream version
[13:01] <ogra_> beyond that qemu has a -version switch to check it
[13:01] <zetheroo> yes, but the version info is that of the Ubuntu package ... not of Qemu itself ... no?
[13:01] <ogra_> ubuntu versions are the part after the -
[13:02] <vila> utlemming: ping
[13:02] <zetheroo> ii  qemu-common                                                           1.0+noroms-0ubuntu14.7
[13:02] <zetheroo> so this means it's using qemu 1.0 ?
[13:02] <ogra_> package versioning is usually $upstream-$debianrevision"ubuntu"$ubuntuversion
[13:02] <zetheroo> that is ancient
[13:03] <ogra_> it likely comes from the qemu-kvm package which was only recently merghed into mainline afaik
[13:04] <zetheroo>  I was sure that Ubuntu was using qemu 1.2.x already
[13:04] <ogra_> upstream would be 1.0+noroms ... debian version is 0 (which means the package isnt in debian) and ubuntu version is upload 14 security or SRU version 7
[13:07] <ogra_> ogra@chromebook:~/packages/ubuntu-defaults-nexus7-0.52$ apt-cache show qemu|grep Version
[13:07] <ogra_> Version: 1.3.0+dfsg-5expubuntu1
[13:07] <ogra_> thats in raring btw
[13:12] <zetheroo> I don't know where online I saw it ... but Ubuntu had qemu 1.2.x in there somewhere
[13:15] <Skaag> ok, I like how simple it is to switch from ext2 <--> ext3 in both directions. very convenient.
[13:15] <ogra_> qemu != qemu-kvm
[13:16] <zetheroo> this is not good at all
[13:17] <ogra_> ?
[13:17] <ogra_> what is not good ?
[13:17] <ogra_> teht the fork of qemu doesnt use identical versioning ?
[13:17] <zetheroo> that Ubuntu uses such old versions of this stuff
[13:17] <ogra_> qemu-kvm is way newer than qemu was at that time
[13:18] <ogra_> it has recently been merged back into the qemu tree though
[13:19] <ogra_> so in raring you will have no qemu-kvm ... in all former release there was qemu-kvm which had way newer code on x86 than qemu had
[13:19] <zetheroo> I just don't know which version of Qemu is actually running here .. and if it's version 1.0 then that is terrible
[13:20] <ogra_> you run version 1.0 of qemu-kvm
[13:20] <zetheroo> we were hoping that Ubuntu was using slightly newer stuff than Debian ... but this seems to not be the case
[13:20] <ogra_> qemu-kvm is several versions advanced of everything debian has for the same release cycle
[13:20] <zetheroo> yes, and I have the feeling that that does not mean I am running 1.0 of Qemu ... but how does one find out what version of Qemu is running in qemu-kvm ?
[13:21] <ogra_> dunno, read the changelogs perhaps
[13:21] <ogra_> or upgrade to the developmebnt release where both packages were merged again
[13:27] <nocturn> Hi all, I have a LVM group with a PV on iscsi that is gone
[13:27] <nocturn> now, I get /dev/dm-5: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error on all LVM commands
[13:27] <nocturn> how can I fix this?
[13:27] <nocturn> will the server survive a reboot?
[13:43] <nocturn> I fixed it with dmsetup
[13:43] <nocturn> dmsetup remove <stale volume>
[13:46] <zetheroo> is there any way I can install Qemu 1.2.0 from the quantal repos onto a precise machine?
[14:20] <zul> yolanda2: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/nova/nova-asn1/+merge/147932
[14:20] <yolanda2> zul, ok
[14:25] <yolanda2> zul, done
[14:30] <Sendoushi> hey guys. how can i set a static ip?
[14:53] <greppy> Sendoushi: ask your ISP.
[15:04] <zul> yolanda2: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/keystone/keystone-fix/+merge/147952
[15:05] <zetheroo> Ubuntu doesn't seem to like the init 6 command too much :P
[15:06] <yolanda2> zul, why is that change?
[15:06] <zul> yolanda2:  refreshes the config again
[15:07] <yolanda2> funny
[15:07] <yolanda2> ok, done
[15:12] <marahin> Does Ubuntu have any built-in (OOTB) vnc server?
[15:14] <zul> yolanda2:  next https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-keystoneclient/requests-patch-drop/+merge/147955
[15:23] <yolanda2> done
[16:12] <pmatulis> does anyone want to help improve the server guide?  i'm looking for helpers
[16:14] <jamespage> pmatulis: yes
[16:14] <jamespage> pmatulis: maybe mention it in aob in the server team meeting currently happending in #ubuntu-meeting?
[16:19] <pmatulis> jamespage: alrighty
[16:42] <hallyn> smoser: do you mind syncing spice 0.12.2-0nocelt2exp from debian experimental into raring?
[16:42] <smoser> hallyn, i can do that for you i guess.
[16:47] <zul> yolanda2: can you fix the quantum build please
[16:47] <yolanda2> zul, ok
[16:47] <yolanda2> will be nice to forget ceilometer for a while :)
[17:29] <coolball1> hi
[17:29] <coolball1> just installed
[17:29] <coolball1> no gui
[17:29] <coolball1> what can I do?
[17:37] <genii-around> Everything.
[17:38] <ogra_> coolball1, what do you want to do ? everything is possible :)
[17:39] <genii-around> coolball1: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html
[17:41] <genii-around> Hopefully you had some task in mind for why you wanted a server, like making a webserver, or sharing files, or so on. It helps to first have a goal before deciding which next step to take.
[17:47] <negronjl> jamespage, ping
[17:51] <coolball1> what if I want www.example.com to be a site on my server?
[17:52] <coolball1> apache, dns, and a visit to godaddy?
[17:52] <genii-around> coolball1: Maybe also a static IP
[17:52] <yolanda2> i'm having a strange problem with quantum. It depends on python-cliff, which is added as dependency and installed. But some tests are failing with "No module named cliff" error
[17:52] <yolanda2> any idea?
[17:55] <yolanda2> zul ^
[18:06] <rbasak> yolanda2: if you run python from the command line, then does "import cliff" work?
[18:06] <yolanda2> rbasak, yes
[18:07] <yolanda2> it's failing on the tests:
[18:07] <rbasak> In what environment is the test that is failing running in?
[18:07] <rbasak> As in dep8, or out of the source tree, or something else?
[18:07] <yolanda2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1640153/
[18:08] <yolanda2> it's a run_tests.sh -N -P in the package build
[18:08] <rbasak> Ah, OK. When you say it depends on python-cliff, did you mean build-depends? You'll need a build-depend if you're running the test suite from inside a package build and the test suite needs the cliff module
[18:09] <rbasak> So it sounds like you need both a depend and a build-depend to me.
[18:09] <coolball1> I cannot get a static ip
[18:12] <yolanda2> let me check
[18:12] <yolanda2> rbasak, it's only adding that as a build-depends
[18:13] <yolanda2> so i should add a depends also?
[18:13] <rbasak> yolanda2: if it's failing in the package build, a depends isn't relevant at that stage.
[18:15] <yolanda2> it fails on the build, yes, on the run tests, but the build-depends is there
[18:16] <rbasak> yolanda2: at this point I'd use --purge=none --purge-deps=none --purge-session=none options to sbuild, and then examine the session after the failure using schroot -l --all to get the session identifier and then schroot -r -c <session_id> to see why the import is failing in the build environment
[18:17] <rbasak> yolanda2: assuming I understand your problem correctly.
[18:17] <yolanda2> ok
[18:43] <yolanda2> rbasak, Bad purge mode 'none' at /usr/share/perl5/Sbuild/Conf.pm line 493.
[18:44] <rbasak> yolanda2: sorry. It's "never". For all three.
[18:45] <yolanda2> oh, ok
[18:48] <hallyn> smoser: saw the upload ack email - thanks!
[18:50] <smoser> hallyn, i didn't upload.
[18:50] <smoser> hm..
[18:51] <smoser> looks like kirkland got it for you.
[18:55] <hallyn> wowzers
[18:55] <hallyn> kirkland: thanks :)
[18:58] <yolanda2> rbasak, how can i check why that import is failing?
[18:59] <rbasak> yolanda2: that's a bit hard for me to say from here. But I have one idea. Let me look it up.
[19:01] <yolanda2> mm, i'm on the session now
[19:01] <yolanda2> i see that python-cliff is installed
[19:01] <yolanda2> but then if i execute python, and import cliff, it fails
[19:02] <yolanda2> maybe is a problem with the package?
[19:04] <rbasak> yolanda2: what I was thinking is more complicated than I remember
[19:04] <rbasak> yolanda2: yeah it sounds like a problem with the package
[19:05] <yolanda2> module should be in /usr/share/pyshared, right?
[19:05] <rbasak> Something like that. Python module locations always confuse me
[19:06] <rbasak> Try: strace -eopen python -mcliff and see if you can spot any difference to running that outside the environment with python-cliff installed. It should at least narrow down the paths.
[19:06] <rbasak> You might need to run schroot -u root -r -c <session_id> in order to get a root session in that environment to install strace
[19:06] <yolanda2> i'm on it
[19:08] <jamespage> negronjl: pong
[19:11] <yolanda2> rbasak, i tested, but module is not where it should be
[19:12] <rbasak> yolanda2: is this in raring?
[19:13] <yolanda2> rbasak, yes
[19:13]  * rbasak takes a look
[19:16] <rbasak> yolanda2: I see the problem. "dpkg -L python-cliff" in a schroot with it installed shows that it's not actually installing anything useful at all
[19:17] <rbasak> yolanda2: it does this if I apt-get install python-cliff on a raring instance too.=
[19:17] <rbasak> yolanda2: looks like python-cliff is completely broken in raring. In what environment did you see it work?
[19:17] <yolanda2> let me retry, i think i did it on raring
[19:18] <rbasak> yolanda2: looking at the changelog, zul upgraded a new python-cliff today, a few hours ago
[19:19] <yolanda2> mm, seems that
[19:19] <yolanda2> 0ubuntu2 works, but not 0ubuntu3
[19:19] <rbasak> zul: I think it's completely broken. It only installs stuff in /usr/share/doc/python-cliff
[19:20] <rbasak> Sounds like we need a dep8 test for python-cliff :)
[19:21] <yolanda2> in sbuild i have Installed: 1.3-0ubuntu1
[19:21] <yolanda2> that doesn't work
[19:21] <yolanda2> in the schroot where i tested it was 1.1.2-0ubuntu2
[19:21] <yolanda2> and that works
[19:26] <MannerMan> Hello, I have some issues with Ubuntu 12.04 partitioning, Im using a 60gb SSD, and Ubuntu splits the disk really weird
[19:26] <MannerMan> http://pastebin.com/3JWtqNC1
[19:26] <yolanda2> zul, i send you the mp for quantum, it's pending on the cliff issue but the rest is working: https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/quantum/grizzly/+merge/148032
[19:26] <MannerMan>  /dev gets 16 gb etc
[19:26] <zul> yolanda2:  looking
[19:27] <MannerMan> On my virtual Ubuntu installs these partitions are around 500mb
[19:28] <sarnold> MannerMan: what are the chances that those are tmpfs and you've got 16 gigs ram?
[19:29] <MannerMan> sarnold: I got 32 gb ram
[19:29] <sarnold> MannerMan: ah, right, the default is _half_ the ram. sigh. :)
[19:29] <MannerMan> sarnold: :)
[19:29] <MannerMan> Okey that makes sense
[19:29] <MannerMan> Wonder why i'm only getting 24gb on /
[19:30] <MannerMan> ESXi have been installed to this disk before, however I wanted to try out KVM
[19:30] <sarnold> MannerMan: did /home or swap get the other ~30 gigs?
[19:30] <MannerMan> I dont think so, you have the entire df -h output @ pastebin link
[19:31] <sarnold> hunh.
[19:31] <MannerMan> http://pastebin.com/3JWtqNC1
[19:31] <sarnold> MannerMan: fdisk -l or cfdisk -l or whatever the newfangled way to see gpt partition layouts?
[19:32] <MannerMan> sarnold: one sec
[19:32] <MannerMan> sarnold: http://pastebin.com/2htN9T2U
[19:33] <MannerMan> Something is messed up there
[19:33] <sarnold> MannerMan: aha, that looks like 32 gigs of swap
[19:33] <MannerMan> Nice :D
[19:33] <sarnold> MannerMan: perhaps, in case, you wish to suspend-to-disk? :)
[19:33] <MannerMan> I guess I need to do manual partitioning here
[19:33] <rbasak> yolanda2, zul: python-cliff upstream have introduced a Makefile wrapper around setup.py that is confusing dh_auto_build
[19:34] <MannerMan> I simply choosed to use the entire disk
[19:34] <zul> rbasak: yeah i know...im fixing it now
[19:34] <rbasak> zul: OK, I'll leave it to you then :)
[19:35] <sarnold> MannerMan: yeah. that might not be an ideal use for this system :)
[19:35] <MannerMan> sarnold: Indeed :)
[19:35] <yolanda2> zul, are you able to fix it? do you want me to take a look tomorrow?
[19:36] <zul> yolanda2: yes im looking at it now
[19:36] <MannerMan> Reinstalling with manual partitioning, gonna give it like 2gb swap
[19:36] <yolanda2> i need to leave for today, quite a long day
[19:37] <yolanda2> i leave you the quantum mp and i can merge that tomorrow
[19:37] <yolanda2> bye!
[19:44] <zul> rbasak/yolanda: fix now
[20:10] <F3Speech> Need help installing a HP Laserjet 1200 via a usb to serial adaptor using ubuntu server cli and cups cli or web interface! Currently Ive had it print a test page but network users couldnt print so I tweaked and now I cant even see the printer. Could really use a hand to point the way...
[20:13] <jcastro> utlemming: wanna talk vagrant/juju?
[20:51] <kirkland> hallyn: welcome ;-)
[20:55] <belgianguy> so I was thinking of getting myself a VPS, but I need some sort of web-frontend for my client
[20:55] <cliff__> Can someone help me configure my ubuntu server's network configuration?  I'm connected to a router that's not using NAT, and I'm lost
[20:55] <belgianguy> is there such a thing in a PPA? like Plesk/CPanel etc
[20:55] <iqualfragile1> i just want to make shure i did not make any mistake early on: im trying to set up a bind9 dns, when using nslookup host.example.com it gets me the right ip-adress (192.168.9.1) but when i try nslookup 192.168.9.1 it just tells me host. not host.example.com. is that wrong?
[21:08] <iqualfragile1> ok, solved my problem on my own, thanks anyways
[21:19] <Daviey> smoser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1640714/ .. taken from the example.. if package_upgrade: true <- doesn't imply and _update, it will not do an upgrade as the apt listing is current.. right?
[21:44] <smoser> i think upgrade might force update
[21:44] <smoser> as it really should, Daviey
[21:48] <RoyK> smoser: upgrade won't force update
[21:48] <RoyK> update is another thing
[21:49] <smoser> RoyK, the context was cloud-init
[21:49] <smoser> where sanity was (i believe) ensured.
[21:50] <RoyK> sanity is overrated
[21:50] <smoser> upgrade without update is simply asking for failure to download packages removed from -updates (or developement cycle)
[21:50] <smoser> (especially if this is an image that was made 6 months ago)
[22:14] <belgianguy> anyone good experiences with web front-ends for Ubuntu Server?
[22:15] <belgianguy> It's not for me, it's for a friend
[22:15] <belgianguy> I myself am content with scp and Cacti
[22:26] <belgianguy> eg Zpanel, anyone ever used that?