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smspillazI apologize in advance for the mail spam that is about to occur04:59
smspillazneed to resubmit a bunch of stuff so that the CI bots will wake up again04:59
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* duflu tries to shut eyes05:12
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didrockshey mmrazik, how are you?08:25
mmrazikmorning didrocks08:25
mmraziknot so bad08:25
didrocksmmrazik: ;) do you think it's possible to cat ap_test_debug_log.txt to the console? Would be easier to grasp some important infos in the unity/autopilot jobs?08:26
didrockslike, I thought at first that the exit(1) was a failed installed, when it was the filtering aborting08:26
mmrazikdidrocks: it would be splendid but this is something in UTAH. I've even reported a bug for it08:26
mmraziklet me find it08:26
didrocksmmrazik: there is no way to have that as a post_trigger?08:26
didrocksmmrazik: like we do for crash files and so on?08:27
didrocks(not asking for real time logs, just an "after the fact")08:27
jibelmmrazik, bug 1075969 ?08:27
mmraziknot quite sure what you are talking about. I had an impression UTAH is very hostila towards stdout and there is no way how to print it. Not really sure if we are doing anything like that anywhere08:27
ubot5bug 1075969 in UTAH "getting a real-time progress in jenkins would make debugging easier" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107596908:27
mmrazikif you can give me any pointers I can give it a try08:27
mmrazikjibel: yes, looks like the one08:28
jibeldidrocks, actually I dont think it's possible in the current state of utah08:29
didrocksmmrazik: look at the autopilot intel job, rev 10908:29
didrocksjibel:  ^08:29
didrocksin the end, we have:08:29
didrocks+ grep -E '(compiz|X|autopilot)'08:30
didrocks_usr_bin_compiz.1000.crash08:30
didrocks+ echo 'Appears to have been a crash'08:30
didrocksAppears to have been a crash08:30
didrocks+ exit 108:30
didrocksso it seems we can show something, isn't it?08:30
mmrazikoh right... after we download it from the machine we can cat it in jenkins08:30
mmrazikurgh...08:30
jibelwhat you see on the console is the output of the process that runs on server's side08:30
mmrazikbut that is _really_ stupid08:30
jibelagree08:31
mmrazikdidrocks: but you are right we can do it08:31
jibeldidrocks, and the test runs on a remote server08:31
jibelmmrazik, that doesn't improve anything, just saving a click on an artifact08:31
didrocksjibel: mmrazik: at least, while we are waiting for UTAH to give better support to stdout, that would give us more hint when the issue is on our side08:31
mmrazikjibel: which is  a lot TBH. Everybody is looking at console logs08:32
didrocksjibel: right, but it's confusing to see exit 1 without any info08:32
jibelmmrazik, the really interesting feature is the bug you filed08:32
didrocksagreed with mmrazik08:32
mmrazikI consider this one of the biggest drawbacks of utah08:32
didrocksI was blaming UTAH for 10 minutes before having a second look :)08:32
didrocksand I wrote that detect/abort script :p08:32
mmrazikdidrocks: its there. Let me know if you don't see it in the next run08:34
didrocksmmrazik: excellent! it's the same script for oif?08:35
mmrazikdidrocks: I changed all 3 jobs -- oif, indicators and unity08:35
didrocksmmrazik: perfect :) it's a little bit coffeeless bulletproof! Thanks a lot :)08:35
didrocksmore*08:35
popeymorning all08:46
sil2100Morning!08:47
sil2100didrocks: hi! Do you know what's up with ps-indicators-autopilot-release-testing ? I see ati red but can't get the log out of the failure from jenkins08:47
didrockssil2100: it's all my fault this one :)08:48
didrockssil2100: my filter was badly updated, I had a bug due to edubuntu-desktop :)08:49
didrockssil2100: fixed and rerun, this time, I hope we'll get results ;)08:49
didrockshey popey!08:49
sil2100;)08:49
sil2100didrocks: btw.! I fixed the ibus tests finally here, now I'm just resolving some minor char encoding problems08:50
sil2100By 'fixing' I mean 'enhanced', had to hack around the introspection limits of ibus08:50
didrockssil2100: excellent, this is linked to the recent change in autopilot?08:51
sil2100didrocks: not really, I'm still using the old autopilot here it seems08:52
didrocksok :)08:53
smspillazhmm09:35
smspillazit would be really cool if we could have nightly runs of phoronix-test-suite one day09:35
smspillazits pretty interesting to play around with09:36
didrockssil2100: do you mind looking at job/ps-oif-autopilot-release-testing/label=autopilot-ati/?10:26
didrockssil2100: one test on two failed10:26
didrocksrun 3710:27
mmraziksmspillaz: I actually have openarena (from phoronix) running on a daily basis10:29
mmrazikon intel (HE+LE) and ati (HE+LE) with open source drivers10:29
sil2100didrocks: checking10:36
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sil2100didrocks: trying to find out why the test failed, it seems that something 'happens' when the test is ran and the dash is opened for the very first time in the session10:45
sil2100It seems unity registered the Alt key press but the F4 keypressed went unnoticed, hmmm10:47
didrockssil2100: thanks, keep me posted :)10:47
sil2100didrocks: I'll revisit it in a moment again11:03
didrocksok ;)11:03
smspillazmmrazik|lunch: ah interesting11:22
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smspillazI'm trying to hack pts at the moment to make it play the games in windowed mode, since that's what I'm most interested in11:23
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didrocksTrevinho: bregma: I think you do see that armhf is failing to build, right?13:01
Trevinhodidrocks: mh, no... looking13:03
didrocksTrevinho: you can look at the staging ppa or the ubuntu-unity daily-build one13:03
Trevinhodidrocks: ah, I see... a test that andyrock wrote is failing there... CAn we wait him to fix it or should I look at it now?13:08
didrocksTrevinho: depends on when he will be able to fix, do you know?13:08
didrocksTrevinho: like in the coming hours, before 00 UTC?13:09
Trevinhodidrocks: he's generally available in the late afternoon13:09
Trevinhoso he should yes13:09
didrocksTrevinho: ok, in that case :)13:09
cyphermoxgood morning!13:12
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didrockssalut cyphermox, ça va?13:16
cyphermoxsalut didrocks, ca va toi?13:16
didrockscyphermox: mouai mouai13:17
didrockssil2100: I didn't follow, did you get anything for the failing test?13:37
sil2100didrocks: working on it on my guest session14:09
mterryall this red in jenkins!14:29
didrocksmterry: we are discussing it right now, will get back to you then14:30
didrocksmterry: do you want the short or long story?14:31
mterrydidrocks, short I suppose  :)14:32
didrocksmterry: so basically, if I just scope to Unity:14:32
didrocks- armhf is FTBFS14:32
didrocksa test failing that andyrock modified14:32
didrocksTrevinho will ask andyrock once he's online14:32
didrocksmterry: can you ensure as well that's fixed? ^14:32
Trevinhodidrocks: I've contacted it in private, he has an exam, but he'll fix tonight...14:32
didrocksTrevinho: thanks a lot :)14:33
didrocks- a new issue on UTAH14:33
didrocksor at least, povisionning the image14:33
didrocksrandom failures14:33
mterryk14:33
sil2100didrocks: ok, so, I tried and tried and tried, but I can't reproduce it or find a logical cause right now for the error ;/14:42
sil2100didrocks: the FTBFS is an alignment error, typical for ARM, but hm, maybe it might get fixed up14:43
didrockssil2100: ok, well, it's still part of those random tests failure14:43
didrockssil2100: fortunately, this time, UTAH will pass and you'll get fresh result14:44
didrockssil2100: it's still a little bit high, like ati shows 26 failures14:44
sil2100didrocks: the unity release stack, yes?14:45
didrockssil2100: yeah, unity14:47
mterrysil2100, yay for ibus branch!15:04
didrockssil2100: the job finished, 25 failures on intel15:10
sil2100\o/15:15
sil2100uh15:15
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ChrisTownsendTrevinho: Hi16:13
sil2100didrocks: in the background, I'll also maybe try to fix the FTBFS for armhf, but this might take a bit longer because I'm using an ARM pbuilder for build-testing right now16:34
sil2100didrocks: since it takes some time, I can work on the tests in the meantime ;)16:35
didrockssil2100: sweet! rocking ;)16:36
toperharrierhi there, what should I uninstall to disable only amazon search results? unity-lens-shopping or amazon webapp? im a bit confused it seems amazon is unity-webapp-common :s17:16
smspillazbregma: perf test results are up17:23
bregmasmspillaz, where?17:23
smspillazbregma: 5x boost on unigine for some reason, 5fps on some of the other games17:23
smspillazbregma: https://code.launchpad.net/~compiz-team/compiz/compiz.fix_1024304/+merge/14783217:23
smspillazI think it really depends on the type of application as to what its individual performance improvement is going to be17:24
bregmanaturally17:24
smspillazsupertuxkart is just slow no matter what you do, unigine does a lot of postprocessing and really benefits from the freed up fill-resources on the gpu17:25
smspillazbregma: phoronix-test-suite is pretty neat though - should probably keep it on the radar as part of the testing strategy17:25
bregmaand not just because phoronix runs it with a great deal of prejudice17:26
smspillazit would be very easy to hook it into compiz' framerate counters - all it does is spawn a process and watch the stdout with a regex for the fps17:27
smspillazbregma: well, I've realized that a large part of the reaction to those benchmarks is often denial which results in lots of ad-hominem against phoronix17:28
smspillazwhere attention is usually deflected away from the numbers to the journalistic quality17:28
smspillazI'm guilty of this17:29
smspillazits probably a natural reaction17:29
bregmafact is any improvement in those high-profile benchmark numbers can have a positive influence on Unity uptake17:29
bregmaso it's a worthwhile exercise17:29
smspillazyeah17:29
smspillazbregma: although a warning: I modified the benchmarks slightly. those numbers are actually slower than what phoronix will report17:30
smspillazit was only stressing the relevant codepath if I ran them windowed, which pts does not do by default17:30
smspillaz(it runs everything fullscreen, which of course, bypasses compositors)17:30
smspillazmight be a nice feature request for them though17:31
smspillaz(and of course the relevancy of the numbers comes from the fact that not everything is a fullscreen window)17:31
bregmasmspillaz, can your change be staged (nux then unity) or does it need to go in all at once?  Is is an ABI-breaking change?17:33
smspillazbregma: it really needs to go in all at once17:33
bregmathat's a pain17:33
smspillazyeah I know :(17:34
smspillazthis is where direct push access comes in handy - verify that CI is green, turn off the merge bots and then just merge everything once its ready17:34
smspillazbregma: as for ABI breaking - yes for compiz, I don't think so for nux17:36
smspillazactually, no, it is for nux, had a change a function signature17:36
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osmdavehi whats the status/progress of widgets for Unity? Is there any code I can test or dev?20:41
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thumperosmdave: what do you mean by widgets?21:03
osmdavethumper like adding anything to the desktop that isn't an icon. Weather, html5 apps, calculator, drag-able images and things like that.21:07
thumperosmdave: nothing unity specific AFAIK21:09
osmdavethumper: ok thanks what is the part of the desktop that icons and widgets sit on? What handles that if not unity?21:11
thumperosmdave: that is just the desktop, and yes unity does handle that, but I'm not aware of any widget code coming any time soon21:11
osmdavethumper: where abouts in the source is the desktop part of the desktop that deals with the icon layout etc.?21:16
thumpernot sure exactly21:17
robruthumper, hey. seems I've missed osmdave, but if he comes on asking again, you can tell him that Nautilus handles the icon rendering on the desktop, and doesn't do any desktop widgets on it's own.22:07
thumperrobru: ok, ta22:08
robruthumper, there are third-party things that can already do desktop widgets, but nothing that's installed by default or officially supported.22:08
* thumper nods22:09
robruthumper, cool. tried googling an email address for him but didn't get much ;-)22:09

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