[00:23] <rick_h_> greg-g: cool
[00:24] <rick_h_> greg-g: http://www.amazon.com/Oak-The-Frame-Civilization-ebook/dp/B006FO1EM8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=2MA8O7BXBIDWH&coliid=I3UMIRRU3NDIK0 is one I want to pick up
[01:06] <snap-l> I'll freely admit it: I'm an asshole.
[01:06] <snap-l> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/jIPSN793glgo7tTEKd1p/
[01:07] <snap-l> But I swear, every fucking year I get one of these.
[01:15] <snap-l> Heh, apparently their CMS had me in there as someone dealing with Maxinmo.
[01:44] <snap-l> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1642028/what-is-the-name-of-this-operator
[01:44] <snap-l> I love this one: http://stackoverflow.com/a/8909176/535883
[02:14] <jrwren> jcastro: i have no idea what happened to that askubuntu question.
[02:14] <jrwren> i tried to answer it an hour later and askubu said " we are not accepting answers right  now."
[02:14] <jrwren> i wonder if they had a crash with data loss
[12:52] <snap-l>    Good morning
[12:52] <rick_h_> party
[12:53] <brousch> I'm awake today! It's great to be alive!
[12:54] <snap-l> You're not fooling anyone. :)
[12:56] <brousch> But really
[13:05] <shakes808> good morning all
[13:17] <snap-l> OK, I thinkI have an idea for the Global Jam
[13:18] <snap-l> There seem to be a lot of folks who were keen on the idea of doing the GJ online
[13:18] <snap-l> and I think we could make something awesome from that
[13:19] <snap-l> So the entire weekend (March 1st-3rd) if you're ready to jam, just post to the channel "I'm jamming"
[13:19] <snap-l> or something with Jam in there
[13:19] <snap-l> "I like toast and jam"
[13:19] <snap-l> Whatever
[13:19] <snap-l> And anyone else who is jamming at that time responds
[13:20] <snap-l> And folks can collaborate via Google Hangouts if folks don't know what to do
[13:21] <snap-l> We could have tutorials on bug triage (if anyone wants to demo)
[13:21] <snap-l> or (if jcastro is up for it) we could have a hangout about how to use askubuntu.com
[13:21] <snap-l> thoughts?
[13:25] <brousch> Good in theory
[13:25] <brousch> West MI has a conference all day March 2
[13:28] <brousch> I think you'll need specific tasks for people to jam on
[13:28] <brousch> Otherwise we'll just sit there reading Reddit
[14:14] <snap-l> brousch: And this is different how? :)
[14:14] <brousch> Well when people are at the physical jam there's more incentive to actually jam
[14:20] <snap-l> True, but it seems we have a hard time getting people together
[14:20] <jcastro> hangout would be awesome
[14:20] <snap-l> last few jams have been sparsely attended.
[14:21] <snap-l> jcastro: Would you be willing to present a little on the askubuntu stuff?
[14:21] <rick_h_> you don't think the 10 person hangout limit would be an issue?
[14:22] <snap-l> rick_h_: We'll cross that bridge when we get there
[14:22] <rick_h_> rgr
[14:22] <snap-l> I'd love to have that problem. :)
[14:22] <jcastro> sure
[14:22] <snap-l> jcastro: Awesome.
[14:23] <snap-l> jcastro: WOuld it be better to schedule beforehand or just have something happen organically?
[14:23] <snap-l> Also, Kerio changed their web interface, and it's now that blasted side-pane shit
[14:24] <snap-l> I really hate that.
[14:28] <jcastro> organic pls
[14:28] <snap-l> jcastro: np
[14:28] <jcastro> send me a mail too
[14:28] <snap-l> Will do. I'll also send out an announcement
[14:29] <jcastro> my secretary handles all my scheduling
[14:29] <snap-l> You mean your boss, naturally. ;)
[14:30] <jcastro> indeed
[14:30] <jcastro> I usually am not paying attention to things so I double book, etc.
[14:30] <jcastro> so she just runs everything
[14:30] <jcastro> all I need to do is show up
[14:33] <snap-l> Oh, O'Reilly now accepts Paypal
[14:33] <snap-l> so I can use Paypal directly instead of using my Paypal debit card. ;)
[14:33] <snap-l> Too easy.
[14:33] <snap-l> jcastro: We keep our stuff in Google Calendar, so JoDee and I have access to each other's calendars
[14:34] <snap-l> but JoDee handles the social calendar. :)
[14:34] <snap-l> It's just easier that way.
[14:35] <jcastro> we have our own work calendars
[14:35] <jcastro> and she handles our joint calendar
[16:36] <jrwren> is it me, or does ubuntu-server installer kind of suck in certain senario? in a classic data center with no DHCP you have to drop to cmdline and use busybox ip/route to configure network? that feels wrong.
[16:36] <jrwren> is it just a use case which ubuntu-server ignoreds?
[16:37] <rick_h_> in that case you're probably mass deploying in a scripted way?
[16:43] <jrwren> that is a different use case.
[16:43] <jrwren> what of the classic "i just need a server" use case?
[16:43] <jrwren> its abandoned?
[16:43] <rick_h_> I just need a server sans dhcp?
[16:44] <jrwren> yes, i'm a big enough org that my desktop dhcp network is isolated from a lab environment.
[16:44] <rick_h_> maybe I'm not following. there's network tools
[16:44] <jrwren> i don't have dhcp in my lab.
[16:44] <jrwren> hehe, you don't follow. I think that is a good answer, that this is an abandoned user case.
[16:44] <jrwren> and I'm OK with that.
[16:45] <jrwren> i'm a bit surprised, and OK with it.
[16:50] <snap-l> jrwren: Were it me, I'd consider putting up a simple DHCP server
[16:50] <snap-l> I have DHCP running at home with IPs associated with MAC addresses
[16:51] <jrwren> *nod*
[16:51] <jrwren> ty all for your feedback :)
[16:52] <snap-l> jrwren: Oh c'mon. Don't shut us out of armchair network admin for your lab. ;)
[16:52] <rick_h_> jrwren: I guess I'm still confused. You can't setup networking manually on the server after boot?
[16:52] <rick_h_> jrwren: you need network on install and setting it up manually from the installer?
[16:53] <snap-l> Reminder: MUG Meeting tonight. Topic is Puppet: http://www.mug.org/meetings/
[16:53] <rick_h_> thinking on the MAAS and such but those tend to have dhcp + tftp setup to provide install stuff so even in a mass install dhcp seems to be avail
[16:57] <jcastro> huh? I thought we did network config on install still
[16:58] <rick_h_> yea, been a bit since I've done a alt install
[16:59] <jcastro> jrwren: your question seems to be datalossed since the DC move
[16:59] <jcastro> that's kind of scary
[16:59] <jrwren> snap-l: i was being very serious wiht my ty for feedback.
[17:01] <snap-l> jrwren: Ah, OK.
[17:01] <jrwren> rick_h_: i was doing virt-install with --location on a bridge network with no DHCP. I htink that is why I''m having issue. that --locaion option really wants DHCP
[20:59] <jrwren> poll: is it a good idea to write my own bigtable implementation?
[21:00] <snap-l> jrwren: Explain
[21:18] <jrwren> too much for irc :)
[21:20] <jrwren> is there a command which will generate a hashed password for me suitable for shadow? or must I call crypt(3) myself?
[21:27] <jrwren> nevermind, ctypes ftw.
[23:26] <snap-l> mutt
[23:26] <snap-l> Bah
[23:30] <rick_h_> mutt ftw
[23:30] <brousch> gmail!
[23:31] <rick_h_> is a great spam filter...
[23:31] <snap-l> I <3 for remote mail
[23:31] <snap-l> mutt, that is