[00:00] <kostkon> r00st3r, oh
[00:00] <r00st3r> kostkon thanks though
[00:00] <kostkon> r00st3r, np
[00:01] <_basic6_> is someone here who has used ZFS from the repository ?
[00:01] <gwiz> where can I ask a question about web browsers?
[00:02] <kostkon> r00st3r, actually, does it say that bluetooth is hard blocked:   rfkill list
[00:02] <_basic6_> i've installed zol rc11 (current is rc14) and i don't get an update
[00:03] <IVANO77> ciao
[00:03] <IVANO77> !list
[00:04] <jakey1> histo, its a server
[00:05] <histo> !sshd | jakey1
[00:05] <histo> jakey1: You still need to set it up.  Then you just ssh ip.of.guest.machine
[00:06] <jakey1> histo, thanks
[00:06] <unheeding> histo is just a bot
[00:07] <unheeding> HELPBOT
[00:07] <histo> unheeding: Nope not a bot
[00:07] <histo> unheeding: ubottu is a bot
[00:07] <unheeding> just what a bot would say
[00:07] <histo> !botsnack
[00:07] <jakey1> histo, whats the terminal code to instal it
[00:07] <unheeding> heh
[00:08] <histo> jakey1: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[00:08] <jakey1> histo, Ta
[00:11] <jakey1> histo
[00:14] <thanigai> how copy a linux partition into another drive?
[00:15] <jakey1> histo, so I make foo@foo or do I have to use the IP?
[00:15] <fzapp> thanigai,  you say the configuration or the content?
[00:15] <stupidBYdefault> .
[00:15] <tieinv> !dd
[00:16] <thanigai> fzapp: i installed ubuntu 12.04 on 8 gb pendrive , now i want to copy into 16 gb pendrive
[00:16] <nearst> more more
[00:16] <fzapp> use dd as tieinv said
[00:16] <fzapp> type 'man dd'
[00:17] <nearst> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-copy-clone-hard-disk/
[00:18] <jakey1> how do you scroll up in the terminal server
[00:19] <zykotick9> jakey1: try shift+pgUP
[00:19] <jakey1> yep works thanks
[00:19] <giiker> thanigai: dd if=/dev/partition of=/dev/partition
[00:20] <zykotick9> giiker: with no options to dd, you might as use cat.  just sayin'
[00:20] <giiker> jajaja!
[00:20] <joshu> how do I do this: "if you are eager to hack, you can update drivers/net/usb/cdc_ncm.c"
[00:21] <jakey1> how do find the ip of a virtual machine to  ssh into it
[00:21] <nearst> what for
[00:21] <zykotick9> jakey1: ifconfig
[00:21] <joshu> nearst you asking me?
[00:22] <nearst> joshu, ya. cdc_ncm.c :)
[00:22] <joshu> nearst comment 11 here if you are eager to hack, you can update drivers/net/usb/cdc_ncm.c
[00:22] <joshu> sorry
[00:22] <joshu> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/211095
[00:22] <compdoc> jakey1, yeah, best way is ifconfig from the virtual console
[00:23] <zefuros> hosti: you here?
[00:23] <tieinv> zy
[00:24] <tieinv> zykotic9 , what option to dd would be appropiate?
[00:24] <giiker> zykotick9: ok we can add bs but Linux defaults to 512 anyway
[00:24] <zefuros> histo: sorry not spelling it right. Are you here man?
[00:24] <nearst> joshu, owh. gudluck.
[00:24] <zykotick9> tieinv: not sure, i'm more a cat man myself ;)
[00:24] <joshu> nearst why do you say that?
[00:25] <histo> zefuros: yes
[00:25] <zykotick9> tieinv: giiker suggestion should work.
[00:25] <tieinv> zykotick9, ty
[00:26] <zykotick9> !tab > tieinv
[00:26] <zefuros> histo: MAN i love you sooo freaking much
[00:26] <zefuros> histo: your advice saved my windows 8 and my work files you are brilliant
[00:26] <histo> zefuros: Which part worked?
[00:27] <giiker> tieinv: dd if=/dev/partition of=/dev/partition bs=32256, this will be faster than 512 of course
[00:27] <jakey1> zykotick9, compdoc, Im using virtual box foo@(inet address)?
[00:27] <jakey1> zykotick9, compdoc, i.e. ssh foo@(inet address)?
[00:27] <zykotick9> jakey1: yes, BUT if you use same username on both systems, just "ssh IPADD" would work.
[00:28] <zefuros> histo: upgrading from ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 and changing back my boot priority as it was , made my system show grub normaly and winows 8 being able to boot without a problem at all
[00:28] <compdoc> jakey1, been a while since Ive used VB, but I think it sets up a nat. you cant see the address from within the guest?
[00:29] <jakey1> I can get the inet adress of 192.xxx.xxx.1?
[00:29] <histo> zefuros: Good to here.
[00:29] <jakey1> but doesnt connect
[00:29] <zefuros> histo: but could i use your help once again please?
[00:29] <histo> jakey1: Unless you setup bridged mode.
[00:29] <zykotick9> jakey1: what error?
[00:29] <histo> zefuros: Just ask away in channel If I can't help i'm sure someone else may chime in.
[00:29] <jakey1> Just times out
[00:30] <zykotick9> jakey1: can you ping the address?
[00:30] <zefuros> can somebody help me install nvidia drivers pretty please? :D
[00:30] <zykotick9> jakey1: follow-up question being, do you have a firewall on VM?
[00:30] <darkcrimson> Have you tried fetching them from the Software Center? @zefuros
[00:31] <zefuros> darkcrimson: with the additional drivers tool?
[00:31] <zykotick9> darkcrimson: no need for @s in IRC, this isn't identi.ca/twitter ;)
[00:31] <jakey1> zykotick9, I can ssh into to the host machine, but seems not to work for the vm
[00:32] <joshu> nearst you still here?
[00:32] <zykotick9> jakey1: are you remote from both?  you're not sitting at the host?
[00:32] <darkcrimson> zykotick9: It's a habit from work.
[00:32] <nearst> joshu, ya. sorry. im backup my server and chat on another channel.
[00:32] <zykotick9> darkcrimson: makes you look new to irc is all...
[00:33] <zefuros> histo: u dont know anything about installing nvidia drivers here?
[00:33] <joshu> no worries just wanted to know why you wished me good luck?
[00:33] <zykotick9> darkcrimson: sorry, did i point this out to you the other day as well?  sorry if i did.
[00:33] <darkcrimson> zykotick9: I'm not really concerned with how I "look" that's a waste of time.
[00:33] <histo> zefuros: Yeah what type of nvidia card do you have?
[00:33] <histo> zefuros: And do you have one of those dual chip setups?  Like intel card and nvidia card on a laptop?
[00:34] <histo> zefuros: sudo software-properties-gtk should bring up the GUI where you can click on the additional drivers tab.
[00:34] <zefuros> histo: im on desktop i have i5 proccessor sandy bridge and nvidia gt 630 gpu
[00:35] <jakey1> zykotick9, I am running a vm ubuntu on my windows and ssh into a laptop with ubuntu and a vm of the ubuntu server
[00:35] <zykotick9> jakey1: i see.  well best of luck.
[00:35] <nearst> joshu, :)
[00:36] <zefuros> histo: got it , but when i tried to install nvidia drivers after reboot ubuntu booted and i was in a empty desktop without the side and upper bar
[00:36] <zefuros> histo: that was mainly the reason i tried to go to 12.04 because it worked out for a friend
[00:36] <joshu> nearst well i've got to get the usb modem working and that's the only information I've found on how to do it :(
[00:37] <katy> histo: so i should install the driver from command line adn then make these edits https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro6-2/Precise#Video too the xorg.conf filke
[00:37] <zefuros> histo: what do you suggest me for nvidia gt 630?
[00:37] <unheeding> hey zykotick9, thanks for telling me about the virtualization accelleration
[00:37] <unheeding> Haiku is now flying in a VM
[00:37] <histo> zefuros: installing the nvidia-current  drivers.  And then running nvidia-xconfig
[00:38] <histo> katy: I would try that. If you run into issues again remove the driver and revert the xorg.conf to normal then. Download and install the driver from nvidia.com
[00:39] <zefuros> histo:
[00:39] <zefuros> histo:i installed nvidia current drivers now how can i open nvidia x config
[00:40] <nearst> joshu, dmesg detect that usb modem?
[00:40] <histo> zefuros: sudo nvidia-xconfig   should write a xorg.conf for you.
[00:40] <joshu> nearst yes
[00:41] <zefuros> histo: done and yes it did write xorg.conf
[00:41] <zefuros> histo: now?
[00:41] <zykotick9> joshu: to save some typing you might want to see "/msg ubottu tab"
[00:41] <joshu> i've tested on windows and it works there. why it doesn't on ubuntu I haven't the slightest clue
[00:41] <nearst> joshu, try with usb-modeswitch-data?
[00:42] <madprops> what's the default cups password?
[00:42] <histo> zefuros: reboot see if you have your title bars
[00:42] <histo> zefuros: If not i'm assuming you'd have to adjust your resolution.
[00:42] <histo> madprops: There isn't one.
[00:42] <joshu> zykotick9 thanks I use tab for nicknames
[00:43] <zefuros> histo: ok i will reboot hope i will find the bars still there :P if i dont find them how can i run terminal or run xchat to contact you?
[00:43] <histo> zefuros: when this happened before did you still get to a login screen?
[00:43] <zefuros> histo: yeap
[00:43] <cambazz> hello. how can i see where grub is installed? i am doing a fresh install with 12.04, then i do apt-get update upgrade and grub says it dont know where it has been previously installed. I am also doing software raid
[00:44] <zefuros> histo: but after login screen i only had wallpaper and cursor
[00:45] <nearst> brb
[00:45] <histo> zefuros: well alt+F2 will open a run dialog you can then type xchat press enter it should open xchat. If it's off the screen alt+f7 will allow you to move the window arround with the arrow keys Press enter to keep it where you moved it.
[00:45] <felix1311> hey dose someone know how to fix the audio output for when i use my earphones i can hear sounds???
[00:45] <histo> zefuros: alt+F8 will allow you to resize it if it's too big.
[00:45] <jkingaround> hi guys. few questions for you regarding 12.10, raid, server and NASes
[00:45] <jkingaround> and desktop sharing
[00:45] <histo> felix1311: isn't that the point of earphones to hear sounjds.
[00:46] <joshu> nearst usb-modeswitch-data is already installed
[00:46] <zefuros> histo: thanks a lot rebooting and coming to report the results
[00:46] <felix1311> yeah  but its not working -_-
[00:46] <histo> zefuros: worst case boot the install cd and use xchat there.
[00:46] <zefuros> histo: you make it far easier for me man thank you articles about nvidia drivers on site had things complicated
[00:46] <felix1311> i can hear sounds from my speakers but not from my earphones
[00:46] <jkingaround> 1) Ive currently got 12.10 installed on a computer and thave the builtin VNC turned on. It's super slow to control and it's on my LAN. how do i speed this up?
[00:46] <histo> felix1311: Which port are you plugging them into?
[00:47] <felix1311> the earphone port
[00:47] <histo> jkingaround: use tightvnc or enable compression or try freenx or a different protocol
[00:47] <histo> felix1311: Are they color coded?
[00:47] <jkingaround> 2) Trying to make a NAS system but need access to plex (media streaming server) so i was wondering is server or desktop a better option for me?
[00:47] <felix1311> nope
[00:47] <felix1311> its my laptop
[00:47] <jkingaround> 3) How do i set up raid within ubuntu
[00:47] <katy> histo: so can you pastebinit me what my xorg.conf file should look like?
[00:47] <zykotick9> felix1311: have you checked alsamixer from terminal?  anything turned down or MM (muted)?
[00:47] <histo> felix1311: Try the DCMI port
[00:48] <histo> felix1311: DCIM
[00:48] <histo> felix1311: Most likely an issue with jacksense. You should have three ports headphone / mic / DCIM
[00:49] <felix1311> dont have a DCIM
[00:49] <felix1311> just mic and headphones
[00:49] <felix1311> sorry guys
[00:49] <felix1311> -_-
[00:49] <histo> felix1311: okay open alsamixer and make sure nothing is muted. You also may have switches in there that control jacksensing
[00:49] <histo> !sound | felix1311
[00:50] <histo> jkingaround: I would use server if you don't need desktop
[00:50] <histo> !raid > jkingaround
[00:50] <jkingaround> well histo i dont think i need desktop but i might need it for plex.. not sure though
[00:51] <katy> histo: so should my xorg.conf file look like this: paste.ubuntu.com/1638166/ or should there be more?
[00:51] <felix1311> im using Pinguy OS =S
[00:51] <jkingaround> i'm going to be running it without a monitor so i dont "NEED" a gui but access to one for RAID and other purposes could be nice unless i could achieve this with server
[00:51] <histo> jkingaround: Possibly i'm not to familiar with plex but i've used dlna on server boxes before using mediatomb or something similiar
[00:52] <jkingaround> well the thing is idk how i'd set it all up without access to a GUI
[00:52] <histo> jkingaround: Well if you are running without a monitor I don't see the need for X or a desktop install.
[00:52] <histo> jkingaround: But it's all up to you and what you feel comfortable with.
[00:52] <histo> jkingaround: With ssh and comand line.
[00:53] <jkingaround> i'm pretty comfortable not having a gui but i think it'd be nice since it's a shared NAS
[00:53] <tbruff13> Can i have some help I am trying to upgrade KDE using kde backports and I get this error message
[00:53] <genii-around> felix1311: You probably want #pinguyos then for support
[00:53] <histo> !kubuntu | tbruff13
[00:53] <jkingaround> well i mean idk how to use plex via command line.. dont think there a way for the initial setup
[00:53] <histo> tbruff13: also backports aren't usually supported here.
[00:54] <histo> jkingaround: don't you access plex througha  webpage?
[00:54] <tbruff13> histo, well can you at least fix the broken pacages
[00:55] <tbruff13> packages issue
[00:55] <histo> !backports | tbruff13
[00:55] <jkingaround> yea but idk how to add a server that i'm not currently on
[00:55] <histo> jkingaround: What do you mean install the packages?
[00:56] <jkingaround> like i can login to plex and edit stuff but the program needs to be running and you need a gui (i think) to publish the server and add the content folders
[00:56] <histo> jkingaround: Oh I thought this was done through a web interface. they must have updated it.
[00:57] <waddy1> need some nub help
[00:57] <tbruff13> histo, it worked when I typed dist-upgrade
[00:57] <tbruff13> instead of upgrade
[00:57] <jkingaround> histo: it is. but its dependent on the local computer.. i think
[00:58] <katy> histo: or should it look more like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1638171/
[00:58] <histo> jkingaround: I'm really confused you can install and configure the package from teh cli and then use the webinterface from another machine to configure the server right?
[00:58] <waddy1> having an issue installing Ubuntu on an Asus Q200e. i cant get the thing to install, because im assuming the UEFI not allowing it. i tried installing the Fedora live usb version, and creating a disc image on a USB drive, changing the boot order and no joy. just passes the install and goes straight to win 8. any suggestions?
[00:59] <histo> katy: I don't know I would have it look like the wiki says. I dont' own a macbook
[01:00] <histo> katy: Oh I see yah you want the Section "Screen"  part
[01:00] <waddy1> the ubuntu image literally just skipped without any sort of attempted install
[01:01] <histo> waddy1: What version are you trying?
[01:01] <waddy1> the new version for both ubuntu and fedora
[01:01] <histo> waddy1: if you need secure boot uefi you have to use 12.10 64bit
[01:01] <waddy1> 12.10
[01:01] <histo> !uefi | waddy1
[01:02] <histo> waddy1: That page has some information that may be interesting.
[01:02]  * histo needs to get a uefi system to see all these problems people are having.
[01:03] <waddy1> so if i tried the 32, would it just skip over it and not even recognize that there is something to boot off of?
[01:04] <jkingaround> histo: you can install it i think.. but i dont think you can configure it at all from another machine
[01:04] <jkingaround> other than general settings
[01:04] <histo> waddy1: I don't believe you can use 32bit systems with uefi
[01:05] <histo> jkingaround: So is there an app you launch to configure it? Or do you do it from a browser on localhost?
[01:05] <jkingaround> histo: both
[01:06] <waddy1> ok, well i will try to do another disc image with unetboot and then try the 64 versio and see how it goes
[01:06] <jkingaround> least on mac, there's preferances (which is a program you install) and then you click the actual program and it'll take you to a website
[01:06] <histo> jkingaround: well if you do it via a browser on localhost you can tunnel from the other machine and do it like you are sitting local.
[01:06] <jkingaround> well the main thing i wanna set up riht now is faster VNC
[01:06] <histo> waddy1: Yeah "most" efi platforms use 64bit only
[01:06] <jkingaround> i installed tightvnc server
[01:07] <jkingaround> how do i turn it on and stuff
[01:07] <histo> jkingaround: yeah give that a try.
[01:07] <datarecall_> hey guy's been stuck on this for 2 days, I have 2 video cards in my computer both of them are working and the screens are on however the secondary video card the display are both white, at login you can see the default ubuntu wallpaper but once logged in the screens both stay white. I cant get my mouse to them either
[01:07] <katy> histro: so i rebooted with these settings: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1638171/ I have a new issue. the comptuer boots to a purple screen with the ubuntu logo and the 5 dots all the dots are red and it freezes there. Progress?
[01:08] <jkingaround> how do i set it up histo?
[01:08] <histo> jkingaround: Trying to find you some good directions.
[01:08] <jkingaround> thanks man
[01:09] <histo> katy: Alright remove the nvidia-current package and revert /etc/X11/xorg.conf to blank. Then reboot, download drivers from nvidia.com and try those.
[01:09] <histo> katy: If it doesn't work their maybe a reason it's only listed as working on 12.04 in the wiki.
[01:10] <zefuros> histo: you here man?
[01:11] <katy> histo: ok im on it. i did have it working a while ago. i had to reinstall for an unrelated reasomn
[01:12] <zefuros> histo: im from my windows xchat my ubuntu after restart was on a so low resolution about 400x600 and couldnt do anything there i even tried to change resolution but failed
[01:12] <histo> jkingaround: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#tightvncserver
[01:14] <katy> histo: i was trying 12.04 earlier thios week and i couldnt even get it to boot from the usb disk i had made. and my optical drive is broken so i tried 12.10 and im able to get more done. idk which is really best tho
[01:15] <histo> jkingaround: Now from reading things if you don't want a seperate display freenx maybe the way to go for speed. That or teamviewer.
[01:16] <histo> katy: Possibly a bad 12.04 iso? or something. Shouldn't be an issue.
[01:16] <bradlee> he can md5 the iso if its in question
[01:16] <histo> zefuros: What happened when you tried to change the resolution?
[01:16] <zefuros> histo: couldnt the resolution was too low and couldnt be changed
[01:17] <histo> zefuros: Can you run nvidia-xsettings
[01:17] <histo> zefuros: What type of display are you using btw?
[01:18] <zefuros> histo: i dont remember how to open a prompt only how to open terminal , btw no sidebars were there : /
[01:18] <zefuros> histo: an lg 21" wide (for some reason ubuntu read it as 20" wide)
[01:18] <mandoguit> alt f2
[01:18] <Ciko_> ubuntu-de
[01:18] <histo> zefuros: alt+F2 the sidebars are there they are just off the screen due to the resolution.
[01:18] <katy> histo: i read that apple makes it really hard to install a diff os from usb. and like i said my optical drivedrive isnt working
[01:19] <histo> zefuros: We just need to get your resolution fixed
[01:19] <histo> katy: Yeah I would md5sum on your 12.04 iso and see if it matches the one from ubuntu.com
[01:19] <histo> !md5sum | katy
[01:20] <katy> histo: i think the iso is fin bc ive tried it a couple diff comp and i am able to boot from those
[01:20] <zefuros> histo: is there a way i can login from my iphone to xchat so i can communicate with you at the same time?
[01:20] <tad-pole> zefuros Im sure the app store has an irc client
[01:21] <tad-pole> android has tons of them
[01:21] <histo> zefuros: I'm sure there are irc client apps in the app store. You just need to connect to irc.freenode.net and the #ubuntu room.
[01:21] <zefuros> histo: ok but can you explain me a bit how to join this server and channel? xchat had them perinstalled for me
[01:22] <histo> zefuros: server is irc.freenode.net  room is #ubuntu
[01:22] <histo> zefuros: room or channel
[01:25] <ZeloZelos> is this thing working?
[01:25] <ZeloZelos> can anyone see what i type?
[01:26] <zefuros> histo: u here man?
[01:27] <compdoc> whatever happened to that ZeloZelos guy? I never see him around anymore
[01:27] <technichian> hello , is there a channel for electronics and if there is signal me...
[01:27] <randomguy1234> how do i make every user have a website, like <ipaddr>/~username/ ?
[01:27] <xangua> !alis | technichian
[01:28] <compdoc> technichian, ask in #arduino
[01:28] <technichian> compdoc : okay
[01:29] <jkingaround> histo: tightvnc isnt what i want since it creates a new desktop
[01:29] <jkingaround> how do i uninstall
[01:29] <adamk> jkingaround: Use the software center to remove it.
[01:29] <adamk> If you want to turn your running X session into a vnc server, use x11vnc.
[01:30] <jkingaround> no terminal way? can only ssh currently
[01:30] <histo> sudo apt-get purge tightvnc-server
[01:31] <jkingaround> thx
[01:31] <jkingaround> so what about x11?
[01:31] <adamk> What about it?
[01:31] <jkingaround> is it running? what do i need to do to make it work
[01:32] <adamk> Maybe it's just me, but you're not making much sense.  I have no way of knowing if X11 is running on your machine :-)
[01:32] <histo> jkingaround: Is this a server install you are working on?
[01:32] <ZeloZelos> compdoc, i here :)
[01:32] <jkingaround> currently its a desktop 12.10
[01:33] <jkingaround> adamk: i meant if it was default to ubuntu etc
[01:33] <adamk> jkingaround: What, exactly, are you trying to do here?
[01:33] <jkingaround> NAS system running raid with plex media center
[01:33] <randomguy1234> how do i make every user have a website, like <ipaddr>/~username/ ?
[01:34] <adamk> Alright, well I'm not sure what VNC has to do with a NAS system raid with plex media center, so I'm out :-)
[01:34] <randomguy1234> like:  http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/ (the guy who made putty)
[01:34] <jkingaround> because my friend is doing the RAID management and it's all remote
[01:34] <jkingaround> and he has no knowledge of command line
[01:34] <jkingaround> lol
[01:35] <jkingaround> and isn't gonna learn anytime soon
[01:35] <randomguy1234> join #ubuntuserver
[01:35] <Pici> randomguy1234: you'd want to look at mod_userdir: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/public_html.html
[01:35] <jkingaround> well it's not a server install yet, not sure server is what i want
[01:35] <randomguy1234> Sweet, thanks Pici!
[01:35] <jkingaround> because i need a gui
[01:37] <histo> randomguy1234: there is a setting in apache you can enable for each user on the system to have their home publichtml forlder shared
[01:37] <histo> !apache | randomguy1234
[01:37] <histo> jkingaround: If it's a ubuntu-desktop install then X is running
[01:38] <jkingaround> alright well x11vnc isn't so i installed it
[01:38] <jkingaround> how do i set it up lol
[01:38] <jkingaround> and is ubuntu desktop even the right thing for me?
[01:40] <zefuros> histo: im in ubuntu right now and the resolution is 640x480
[01:41] <zefuros> histo: will you guide me man?
[01:42] <jkingaround> histo: nvmd i got it
[01:42] <jkingaround> seems to be much faster than built in
[01:43] <jc_freak24> whois jc_freak24
[01:43] <zefuros> histo: do you mind if we talk on private , cause irc on phone is hard to watch and follow
[01:44] <kandinski> if anyone is using supervisord on 12.04, can you check whether your configuration gets read and your processes started on bootup?
[01:45] <histo> zefuros: I'm tyring to pm you now
[01:46] <histo> zefuros: But anyways did you try adjusting the reoslution with nvidia-xsettings  ??
[01:46] <zefuros> histo: look pm
[01:46] <aliendude5300> Is it normal for my system to use 9.1GB with only Firefox, LibreOffice, Nautilus, Steam, Terminal, Transmission, Virtualbox (4GB allocated), evince, system monitor, gedit, software updater, chrome and Mathematica 9 open? That seems a bit much...
[01:47] <aliendude5300> 9.2 GiB of RAM*
[01:47] <zykotick9> !atemyram | aliendude5300
[01:47] <jkingaround> lol nice bot
[01:47] <zykotick9> aliendude5300: and your "with only..." followed by a HUGE list is ridiculous
[01:48] <aliendude5300> The only things in that list that use a lot of ram are VirtualBox running Windows 7 and Mathematica
[01:49] <aliendude5300> I expected around 6 GiB max, honestly
[01:58] <xiphi> I need help with my laptop. The wireless button isn't working.
[01:59] <Senjai> xiphi: The wireless button thats preinstalled on laptops usually dont with Ubuntu
[01:59] <Senjai> unless you install wireless drivers that support it
[02:00] <xiphi> It does with my other laptop, though. And they're both HP.
[02:01] <devslash> I'm running 12.10 desktop in virtual box and unity is slow. has anyone found a way to fix this  ?
[02:02] <xiphi> Try upping the priority of the VB? That's worked for me.
[02:03] <jkingaround> how do i keep x11vnc running? it shuts off everytime i close a connection
[02:03] <jkingaround> and i cant get in again
[02:04] <histo> devslash: Install guest additions
[02:04] <devslash> i did
[02:05] <xiphi> What's your OS that you're running the VB on?
[02:05] <lduros> I'd like to backup my ~/Pictures folder to DVDs, but I don't want to manually split the folder so that it fits in each DVD... what software can I use?
[02:06] <lduros> I should mention that it's about 100G
[02:06] <xiphi> 7zip, lduros.
[02:06] <xiphi> I believe you can split the main folder up with it.
[02:06] <devslash> xiphi: os x mountain lion
[02:06] <lduros> xiphi: but 7zip doesn't make the directory viewable from the DVD, isn't it?
[02:06] <silverone> oh hai! any mac users here ?
[02:06] <devslash> i am
[02:07] <devslash> silverone: i use a mac
[02:07] <Fishscene> silverone: I'm one
[02:07] <silverone> devslash: i am pming you right?
[02:07] <danub> where can i go to view all the IP's that have connected to my system via various methods?
[02:07] <silverone> ah ok
[02:07] <devslash> ok
[02:07] <Fels> anyone here use qt creator
[02:07] <danub> i know where the apache/proftpd/squid logs are. but i dont know where to see ssh/rdp/ etc
[02:08] <Senjai> Fels: lots do. They'd be in the support channel for Qt
[02:08] <danub> i thought maybe /var/log/auth.log, but that doesn't give me the IP it connected from
[02:08] <silverone> devslash: and Fishscene: i've been a mac os x user since 10.5 but i'm tired of apples crap. i'm thinking on going full ubuntu with 12.10, but some people with the retinas mac say WI fi and bluetooth runs better on 13.04
[02:09] <devslash> ok…. I'm waiting for the question
[02:09] <xiphi> lduros- Are you wanting to use the dvd to view them on like a dvd player? Or just backup?
[02:09] <danub> from who?
[02:09] <devslash> from silverone
[02:09] <silverone> devslash: okay so, i have a macbook pro 8,2, wondering if ubuntu 13.04 is stable enough for it
[02:09] <devslash> hang on
[02:09] <silverone> devslash: sorry first time i'm using an irc actually
[02:09] <lduros> xiphi: backup but that can be viewed on a laptop, zipping would require to extract no?
[02:10] <Fishscene> silverone: I haven't checked out 13.04 (alpha/beta) yet, but last I heard, support for retina displays was deplorable at best.
[02:10] <xiphi> No, you don't need to extract to view.
[02:10] <lduros> ok
[02:10] <nearst> still in devel
[02:10] <Fishscene> silverone: It's only as stable as alpha/beta software can be. It is highly recommended to only install officially released versions and NOT beta's on production systems.
[02:12] <Fishscene> xiphi: He'll need to extract to watch the content. But for viewing the filenames, he won't ahve to extract
[02:12] <devslash> silverone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Oneiric
[02:13] <xiphi> I thought that you could view the pics on a dvd if they were compressed?
[02:14] <silverone> devslash: i've also found this one : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Quantal
[02:14] <devslash> ok
[02:14] <silverone> devslash: oneiric is an older "version" i suppose?
[02:15] <devslash> not sure
[02:15] <nearst> worth to try
[02:15] <silverone> devslash: yes it's 11.10
[02:17] <tgm4883> I'm looking for a good piece of software that I can write a "quick start guide" with (similar to something you would get when purchasing a new computer). I've used scribus in the past, but is there anything better?
[02:18] <silverone> Fishscene: and devslash: thank you for your help :)
[02:18] <devslash> np
[02:18] <xjack> So, I just installed the drivers for my integrated wireless card but the wireless button (F12) isn't working. Any ideas/Suggestions?
[02:19] <Fishscene> Anytime
[02:19] <derp> hello, I am on my laptop and noticing that my battery is draining very quickly compared to its usual rate. So I opened up powertop and a device described as "Audio codec hwC0D3: Intel" is taking up the most power, eclipsing 2nd place by double. Now I dont have any processes that should be playing audio(video or audio players, flash...), so what is going on? anyone know?
[02:19] <histo> xjack: use rfkill
[02:20] <Fels> so anyone here Qt Creator ?#
[02:20] <xangua> !anyone | Fels
[02:20] <xjack> What options do I use with rfkill?
[02:21] <nearst> sudo rfkill ublock all
[02:22] <Physicist_> !steam | Physicist
[02:22] <xjack> Nothing happened with rfkill
[02:23] <skorpio> how can i prevent pcm volume from going over 74%?
[02:23] <kandinski> on 12.04, supervisord doesn't seem to read its configuration on startup. Anybody else has seen this behaviour?
[02:23] <skorpio> or how can i fix it to a certain rate?
[02:23] <AndChat409344> Hi
[02:25] <smerdykov> Hello everybody, this might not be the best place to ask, but I am looking for some help with know Linux-friendly laptops, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[02:26] <tgm4883> !system76
[02:26] <xangua> !hardware | smerdykov
[02:26] <xjack> My other HP laptop works great with Linux.
[02:27] <xjack> But this one, with win8 preinstalled was a pain to get setup to accept Linux.
[02:28] <smerdykov> thanks guys
[02:28] <tgm4883> the dell xps 13 works great with Linux (you can buy it with Ubuntu)
[02:28] <tgm4883> My dell inspiron 14z works pretty well too, but there were a few oddities during install
[02:29] <smerdykov> thanks for the recommendation, that's the kind of thing I'm looking for, but alas, I'm looking for something closer to a netbook (I realize that they are on the way out)
[02:29] <smerdykov> basically my EEE1005HA died today, and I'm looking for something with comparable battery
[02:29] <tgm4883> smerdykov, my hp mini 210 works pretty well with 12.10
[02:29] <xiphi> The HP that had no flaws installing linux on was the G60.
[02:30] <xiphi> If you can only get a win8 laptop, make sure you can disable the secure boot and enable legacy mode.
[02:30] <derp> It seems that nobody is aware of a solution, or even the cause of my high poser consuming "Audio codec hwC0D3: Intel" Which is completely fair, however, could anyone suggest another channel I mighr ask totry and find some help?
[02:30] <nearst> ewww
[02:30] <xiphi> In the bios.
[02:30] <derp> power* not poser
[02:32] <smerdykov> looks liek the only XPS 13 that you can get with Linux is the "developer edition" for 1400 bucks
[02:32] <tgm4883> smerdykov, yes
[02:32] <smerdykov> :S
[02:33] <tgm4883> although the internal components for the lower speced models should be the same
[02:33] <nearst> http://www.dell.com/us/enterprise/p/xps-13-linux/pd
[02:34] <xjack> The Compaq CQ58 lets you enable legacy mode and disable secure boot in BIOS, and has AMD Duel core and it was only around 200$ for me.
[02:39] <jwash> is it possible to do a 'minimal ubuntu installation' without a gui but ready for building a very light desktop?
[02:39] <zykotick9> !mini | jwash
[02:41] <jwash> nice, thanks
[02:42] <Haematoma> If a group is given read, write, execute access to a folder
[02:42] <Haematoma> lets say that folder is folder 2
[02:42] <Haematoma> and folder 2 is nested within folder 1 like so:
[02:43] <Haematoma> folder 1 -> folder 2
[02:43] <Haematoma> will the group have access to folder 1 by default?
[02:43] <escott> Haematoma, no
[02:43] <Haematoma> escott: thank you... that is all!
[02:43] <phunyguy> permissions go inward, not outward
[02:44] <Haematoma> kk
[02:44] <zykotick9> escott: but they'll need access to get to /folder\ 1/folder\ 2 won't they?
[02:44] <phunyguy> zykotick9: if you link directly to said internal folder, then you don't need to click through
[02:44] <escott> zykotick9, his question was essentially "is there any mechanism to ensure permissions are sensible" to which the answer is no
[02:44] <slapkex> Hey everyone, has anybody here used a utility called powertop?
[02:44] <phunyguy> !anyone | slapkex
[02:44] <devslash> unity is so slow for me
[02:45] <stupidBYdefault> hello, is there any desktop costumization tool?
[02:45] <stupidBYdefault> 12.04 lts
[02:45] <devslash> when I open apps like terminal they take up the entire screen and don't have a title bar at the top. is there a way to fix that ?
[02:45] <slapkex> are there any good tutorial pages on how to use powertop
[02:45] <zykotick9> phunyguy: that's interesting - i'll have to give that a shot.
[02:46] <phunyguy> devslash: that is a feature of unity that maximizes screen space.  If you hover over the very top left, you get your window control buttons
[02:46] <devslash> i don't like that feature
[02:47] <cjfs> slapkex, looks like it could use some http://www.mail-archive.com/power@bughost.org/msg02155.html
[02:47] <phunyguy> devslash: have you entertained other Ubuntu distros?
[02:47] <devslash> like which one ?
[02:47] <stupidBYdefault> hello, is there any desktop costumization tool  for 12.04 lts?
[02:47] <phunyguy> devslash: Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu to name a few
[02:47] <phunyguy> !xubuntu
[02:48] <phunyguy> !lubuntu
[02:48] <phunyguy> !kubuntu
[02:48] <devslash> one thing that's important to me is to be able to install with an encrypted file system
[02:48] <phunyguy> devslash: they all support it
[02:48] <phunyguy> devslash: are you a brand new user?
[02:48] <devslash> no
[02:49] <devslash> I'm very experienced with ubuntu and run an ubuntu server
[02:49] <phunyguy> !mate
[02:49] <phunyguy> hrmmm
[02:50] <phunyguy> well you can get a mate interface if you want it.
[02:50] <slapkex> is there a better alternative to powertop that maybe has good documentation
[02:50] <devslash> has anyone run one of the alternate versions of ubuntu in virtual box ?
[02:51] <zykotick9> phunyguy: i tried your linking suggestion, didn't work.  escott
[02:51] <xjack> I ran BackTrack 5 r3 in VB on windows and it worked fine.
[02:51] <slapkex> devslash: I have used mint with great success
[02:51] <escott> zykotick9, ?
[02:51] <phunyguy> !anyone | devslash
[02:52] <phunyguy> !mint
[02:52] <zykotick9> escott: for a user to access folder2 in /folder1/folder2 they need access to folder1 as well.
[02:52] <phunyguy> please dont suggest mint here, slapkex
[02:52] <Fels> so anyone here work for ubuntu ?
[02:52] <escott> zykotick9, yes they do
[02:52] <phunyguy> Fels, no it is purely the community
[02:52] <Fels> ok.
[02:53] <slapkex> exit
[02:54] <phunyguy> escott, zykotick9, you can't just cd directly to folder2?
[02:54] <escott> zykotick9, you can play some fun games like have /path be root:root 711 and /path/foo be user:user 700. so they can't see it but if they know its there then they can get to it
[02:54] <escott> phunyguy, not without execute on some hardlink path to it
[02:54] <phunyguy> thats what I meant.
[02:54] <zykotick9> phunyguy: no, the link is show as broken.
[02:55] <phunyguy> zykotick9: symlink?
[02:55] <devslash> is mint ubuntu based ? i thought it was debian based
[02:55] <zykotick9> escott: ya, in the old days i played around with users having write/execute only for ftp upload dirs ;)
[02:55] <phunyguy> devslash: mint is ubuntu based, but not supported here
[02:55] <xjack> Ubuntu is debian based
[02:55] <devslash> ok
[02:55] <xjack> Mint is ubuntu based
[02:55] <phunyguy> it shouldnt have been suggested.
[02:55] <zykotick9> phunyguy: is there any other type of link for directories?
[02:55] <phunyguy> zykotick9: that wasn't the original question
[02:56] <escott> zykotick9, there are hardlinks. you can have multiple paths to a directory, but hardlinked directories can only be made by root
[02:56] <stupidBYdefault> hello, is there any desktop costumization tool  for 12.04 lts?
[02:56] <zykotick9> escott: you can't hardlink a directory?!?!
[02:56] <xjack> compiz-fuzion?
[02:56] <phunyguy> stupidBYdefault: what are you looking to customize?
[02:56] <escott> zykotick9, on most systems you need root permissions to do so
[02:56] <zykotick9> escott: oh, as root you can?  i dind't think that was even possible.
[02:56] <stupidBYdefault> Ow.. unity launcher and other..
[02:57] <escott> zykotick9, something about it being unclear what the semantics should be for a hardlinked directory (as opposed to file)
[02:57] <phunyguy> stupidBYdefault: what about the unity launcher would you like to change
[02:57] <phunyguy> !details | stupidBYdefault
[02:57] <escott> zykotick9, i dont remember all the details but its usually blocked to anyone but root (anyone can hardlink a file) which is ok because directories are relatively cheap
[02:57] <zykotick9> escott: "ln: BLAHBLAH: hard link not allowed for directory" is output
[02:58] <zykotick9> escott: and that is "as root" literally
[02:58] <stupidBYdefault> no problems.. just need a name of package do download/install to costumize desktop and other (launcher / panel)
[02:58] <phunyguy> stupidBYdefault: unfortunately not much exists yet.  What you see is what you get.
[02:58] <escott> zykotick9,   -d, -F, --directory
[02:58] <escott>               allow the superuser to attempt to hard link directories (note: will probably fail due to system restrictions, even for the superuser)
[02:59] <stupidBYdefault> no problems.. just need a name of package(s) 2 download/install to costumize desktop and other (launcher / panel)
[02:59] <escott> zykotick9, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/22394/why-hard-links-not-allowed-to-directories-in-unix-linux
[02:59] <zykotick9> escott: get a weird "... Operation not permitted" on that one.
[02:59] <phunyguy> stupidBYdefault: gnome-tweak-tool gives you a LITTLE control, but not much.
[02:59] <phunyguy> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[03:00] <phunyguy> IIRC also, stupidBYdefault, for me in 12.10, if you go to where you change the wallpaper, you may be able to change launcher size, and how it is visible, (hide or not), but I don't remember if that was available in 12.04.
[03:01] <brightknight> Ubuntu: Are the apt-get repos using http or https by default in v12?
[03:01] <zykotick9> escott: i return to my original "you can't hardlink directories" statement ;)  but thanks, was interesting.
[03:01] <causasui> I want to ls a directory, pipe the output into less, and then still see the output in stdout when I exit less. think tee except to pager instead of a file. how do?
[03:01] <zykotick9> causasui: my suggestion, pipe ls to a file.  then less the file ;)
[03:01] <stupidBYdefault> Ok, guys...  tnx 4 info
[03:02] <phunyguy> y/w stupidBYdefault.
[03:02] <Haematoma> I have an SSH question
[03:02] <escott> causasui, tee to a temp file and cat the file at the end... there is only one standard out, you are describing routing to one stdout and in the background routing around less and back to stdout. which one should draw to console? the less or the second one
[03:02] <phunyguy> !ask | Haematoma
[03:02] <stupidBYdefault> easy day/night...
[03:03] <Haematoma> I'm a little drunk, so I may have difficulty asking it, but here goes:
[03:03] <Haematoma> when adding a pubkey to my authorized keys file in SSH,
[03:04] <Haematoma> there is an attach user@computer section appended to the end of the key
[03:04] <escott> Haematoma, just an identifier means nothing
[03:04] <Haematoma> kk
[03:04] <Haematoma> so when setting trusted users in my SSH config file, the trusted users correspond to accounts on the SERVER
[03:04] <Haematoma> not the accounts on the client machine
[03:05] <phunyguy> "trusted users", Haematoma?
[03:05] <Haematoma> ALLOWEDUSERS in sshconfig
[03:05] <Haematoma> maybe i'm making this way more difficult
[03:05] <escott> Haematoma, the auth_keys file contains the pub key which matches to a corresponding private key. that private key would be kept on the client
[03:05] <phunyguy> Haematoma: yes.
[03:05] <katy> how do io manually install a nvidia driver i download from nvidia/com?
[03:05] <phunyguy> Haematoma: authorized_keys in your home dir, only pertains to THAT user.
[03:06] <escott> katy, you should install through apt
[03:06] <phunyguy> !nvidia
[03:06] <Haematoma> all I want to do is create a new user account on my server, limit that account to be able to access only 1 folder on my machine,
[03:06] <katy> i've been having trouble getting that to work. i want to install a specific driver for my card
[03:06] <Haematoma> and allow an outside client to SSH in as that user
[03:06] <xjack> What is the command for terminal to run AMD CCC with root privileges
[03:06] <phunyguy> Haematoma: servers+alcohol may not be the best idea.
[03:06] <escott> Haematoma, your proposed solution will not work
[03:06] <phunyguy> !sudo xjack
[03:06] <phunyguy> !sudo | xjack
[03:07] <Haematoma> escott: recommended alternative?
[03:07] <escott> Haematoma, a user on a computer is nothing more than the programs they are running. if you cannot access / you cannot access /usr/bin and you cannot execute anything
[03:07] <Haematoma> that's fine, they can read, execute, just not write outside their home directory and said folder
[03:07] <escott> Haematoma, if its just file upload use sftp
[03:08] <escott> Haematoma, http://www.minstrel.org.uk/papers/sftp/
[03:08] <Haematoma> I want to add the user "josh" to a group call "torrent", the group has access to community torrent folder
[03:08] <Haematoma> kk
[03:08] <Haematoma> i'll look into it
[03:09] <Haematoma> can I do the same thing with rsync>
[03:09] <escott> Haematoma, there is an example rsync chroot referenced in the rsync manual
[03:09] <Haematoma> man rsync
[03:09] <escott> Haematoma, /usr/share/doc/rsync/scripts/rrsync.gz
[03:09] <Haematoma> lol dammit, really shouldn't be drinking right now lol
[03:10] <Haematoma> confusing irssi with terminal
[03:10] <phunyguy> Haematoma: I see bad things happening already.... :(
[03:11] <Haematoma> need more sleep... and wine!
[03:11] <Haematoma> :)
[03:11] <phunyguy> You may talk about your drinking habits in #ubuntu-offtopic, but be respectfu.
[03:11] <nearst> grsync offer graphical for rsync usage
[03:12] <phunyguy> respectful*
[03:12] <p201> katy, sorry, but why driver from nvidia.com will be better one which is in repository?
[03:13] <phunyguy> katy, you really should try to hash out why the one in the repo wont work
[03:13] <phunyguy> the nvidia.com drivers will most likely break ubuntu
[03:15] <katy> phunyguy: been doing that for the last days :D
[03:15] <p201> katy you can find the manual here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual But really a don't think will solve issue.
[03:16] <katy> p201: that was the last thing histo mentioned i sshould try
[03:16] <escott> katy, if you do it yourself you are responsible for keeping kernel modules in sync and making sure they are in the initramfs as needed
[03:17] <katy> escott, ok but i've been on this channel for two days now and i've made little progress.
[03:17] <histo> katy: Alrigth do you ahve a working system right now?
[03:17] <katy> does anyone have a suggest?
[03:17] <Haematoma> Apparently I can limit shell commands for an SSH user
[03:17] <histo> katy: Like you can open a terminal?
[03:17] <katy> histo yes but no propritery driver
[03:17] <escott> Haematoma, very hard to do that well
[03:17] <Haematoma> by using command="command1...command2...commandN"
[03:17] <phunyguy> katy: can you give us a little bit of background in what you have tried?
[03:17] <histo> katy: okay dpkg -l | grep linux-header-`uname -r`
[03:18] <Haematoma> escott: wouldn't it be easy to just use a command whitelist?
[03:18] <escott> Haematoma, it would be such a restricted subset that you probably would end up back with sftp which has a built in chroot capability that would be properly done
[03:18] <escott> Haematoma, what is your proposed whitelist?
[03:18] <Haematoma> escott: all I want this user be able to do is rsync some files between two folders
[03:18] <Haematoma> escott: the command whitelist would be the rsync command passed from another script
[03:18] <escott> Haematoma, so thats /usr/share/doc/rsync/scripts/rrsync.gz
[03:19] <qin> Haematoma: inotify and rsync would eliminate need for user...
[03:19] <nearst> if user only able todo rsync between 2 folder, whynot just setup cron for that
[03:19] <katy> histo with 'uname' or 'katy'
[03:20] <katy> ?
[03:20] <histo> katy: just as I typed it with ` <--- those are backticks not ' < which is single quotes.
[03:20] <Haematoma> cron is limited to the local machine?
[03:20] <histo> katy: Back ticks are usually next to the 1 on a keybaord with ~`
[03:20] <dr_willis> i wonder if  $(command) would work the same as backticks in this case.
[03:21] <p201> katy, ok, anyway that's is kind of learning. But haven't you found  any post or manual about installing ubuntu on your macbook?
[03:21] <ur0pl> hi
[03:21] <ur0pl> hi
[03:21] <histo> p201: yes but I believe her issue is that she doesn';t have header files for her current runnning kernel. That may be why installing nvidia from teh repos is failing it can't build the modules
[03:21] <katy> histo, o. did it mno output
[03:22] <katy> p201, yes and no. known with 12.10 on macbook pro 6,2 specifically
[03:22] <katy> *none
[03:22] <histo> katy: dpkg -l | grep $(uname -r)
[03:22] <phunyguy> katy "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`"  without quotes but keep backticks
[03:23] <Haematoma> escott: yeah, I now see that it's basically the same thing you said. Thank you.
[03:23] <katy> paste.ubuntu.com/1638411/
[03:24] <histo> Well there goes that theory
[03:24] <histo> katy: try the nvidia-current-updates   driver
[03:24] <histo> katy: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates
[03:25] <histo> katy: pastebin the output of that
[03:26] <katy> phunyguy: ok it gave me an ouput of a prompt to type in looks like this '>'
[03:26] <phunyguy> you forgot the last backtick, katy
[03:26] <histo> phunyguy: they are installed
[03:26] <phunyguy> ctrl-c and try again
[03:26] <phunyguy> ok.
[03:26] <phunyguy> carry on, histo  :)
[03:27] <histo> katy: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates
[03:27] <histo> and pastebin the output
[03:27] <katy> histo: ok but i think thats gonna break it :)
[03:27] <katy> phunyguy: it installed
[03:28] <histo> katy: if it does we can just remove it.
[03:29] <katy> histo: that actually hasn't really been working. (sudo apt-get purge nvidia...) ive done a fresh install like every time.
[03:29] <pndemc> Anybody know how to renice by process name instead of PID?
[03:30] <histo> katy: is this an nvidia optimus chip?
[03:30] <katy> histo: no it is the GeForce GT 330M
[03:30] <Haematoma> escott: you there, buddy?
[03:30] <escott> Haematoma, yes
[03:31] <Haematoma> escott: I think I finally have it figured out. I've removed sudo privileges from my user "josh". I've added the user to a group "torrent".
[03:31] <xjack> When ever I'm typing, the placement of the cursor moves and messes up my typing.
[03:31] <xjack> Even though I'm not touching the touchpad.
[03:32] <Haematoma> the group "torrent", has ownership of the folder i want "Josh" to access.
[03:32] <histo> katy: yes it does
[03:32] <katy> histo oh ok sry
[03:32] <Haematoma> finally, I add RSA key to josh/home/.ssh/authorized_keys
[03:32] <nearst> what different between packaging-dev and build-essential?
[03:32] <histo> katy: okay let me get you instructions you'd have to try bumblebee and drivers
[03:32] <katy> histo so are we gonna change/creat an xorg.conf file here or just reboot?
[03:32] <brightknight> Ubuntu: Are the apt-get repos using http or https by default in v12?
[03:33] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, I would imagine HTTP. It's just packages -- http should be fine.
[03:33] <dr_willis> build-essential is  the core files needed for the compiler system
[03:33] <katy> histo: ok ive heard of bumblebee, i dont really know what it is tho...
[03:33] <Haematoma> escott: finally, add command limiter, like the one used in the example you gave me
[03:33] <brightknight> julian-delphiki: Why imagine, I need tested answers please.
[03:33] <Haematoma> escott: you see any issue with that setup?
[03:34] <nearst> ty dr_willis ,
[03:34] <escott> Haematoma, i would just follow the instructions in the rrsync script. i haven't looked at it in a long time.
[03:34] <Haematoma> kk
[03:34] <yourimym1> dr willis hi is this vga driver okay to install for my gt n620 http://www.noobslab.com/2012/10/install-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu.html
[03:34] <histo> katy: This is worth a go http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-bumblebee-in-ubuntu-12-1012-04-using-ppa.html
[03:35] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  i just use the drivers from the repos. i dont own any new nvidia cards.. all mine are at least a year+ old.
[03:36] <yourimym1> i mean is the link safe package to install or dangerous ?
[03:36] <shef_> Âñåì ïðèâåò!
[03:37] <katy> histo: can i do this with nvidia already installed or should i purge?
[03:37] <chaotix> hi...  whats the command to type to get info about a package before installing it?  in fedora/suse, it would be yum info <pagkage name>, what about for ubuntu?
[03:37] <chaotix> apt-get info?
[03:37] <dr_willis> yourimym1:  never heard of the site. so no idea how well done their guides are..  the xswat ppa is how most people keep their X and drivers updated to the latest.
[03:37] <zykotick9> chaotix: "apt-cache show foo"
[03:38] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, it all depends on what you have in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:39] <chaotix> hmm
[03:39] <chaotix> zykotick9, i tried it, but it only worked without foo
[03:39] <chaotix> what is foo?
[03:39] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[03:40] <dr_willis> foo = a generic word. :) 'insert your pattern here'
[03:40] <zykotick9> chaotix: foo is a unix-variable.  you replace foo with the package you want.
[03:40] <chaotix> thanks guys
[03:40] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, I looked at the default list, the default repos do not support https
[03:40] <chaotix> lol i should have prolly picked up on that by now
[03:40] <marz> Does ubuntu 12.10 come with vi or vim?
[03:40] <julian-delphiki> marz, you could likely install either.
[03:41] <zykotick9> marz: it comes with vim-tiny, which is more like vi then vim
[03:41] <dr_willis> theres the vim-tiny and vim-full packages i belive
[03:41] <julian-delphiki> and vim-nox
[03:41] <dr_willis> If you want the full vim deal. :) install the full package
[03:41] <julian-delphiki> which i like
[03:41] <zykotick9> marz: vim-tiny is a pain, vim is the same as vim-full
[03:42] <zykotick9> julian-delphiki: i believe you're thinking of emacs-nox, i don't think vim has a -nox version
[03:42] <katy> histo: ok installed bumble bee rebooted and black screen
[03:43] <marz> I know I shouldn't ask this, but I need your opinion. Which do you prefer, vi or emacs?
[03:43] <zykotick9> julian-delphiki: oh, i see you're right.  there is a vim-nox
[03:43] <julian-delphiki> zykotick9, yep, it's what I install by instict these days
[03:45] <katy_> phunyguy: still the same issue after installing bumble bee. booting to black scree
[03:45] <katy_> n
[03:45] <zykotick9> marz: be aware that julian-delphiki's vim-nox provides a lot of "extras" beyond just the editor.
[03:45] <zykotick9> marz: vim vs emacs really doesn't matter.  learn to use 1 of them.
[03:45] <dr_willis> marz:  learn the basics of vi, theres often cases where you really need an editor.. and the only one you will have handy is one of the many vi clones..
[03:46] <julian-delphiki> also learn some basic readline commands, ctrl-a, ctrl-e, etc.
[03:46] <brightknight> julian-delphiki: I asked what was the default for v12. Please pay attention.
[03:46] <chaotix> did anyone else here order a raspberry pi?  jw because i was going to ask how long it took to get to you, and what co you ordered from
[03:46] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, I just told you, i looked at the default.
[03:46] <julian-delphiki> !rude | brightknight
[03:46] <aperson> TITPULLER
[03:46] <DarkAceZ> ASSFACE
[03:46] <julian-delphiki> !patience | brightknight
[03:46] <cjfs> chaotix, the soonest I could find was 4 weeks, for Canada though
[03:46] <rredd4> choatix I did, but not using it.  To slow for me
[03:47] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, btw, everyone here is a volunteer.
[03:47] <dr_willis> chaotix:  took 4+ mo here. ;) but that was last year.. heard the time is down to a week or 3 for most of the world.
[03:47] <dr_willis> im on my Pi RIght now.
[03:47] <cjfs> dang, I thought it was a temporary shortage
[03:47] <brightknight> julian-delphiki: ok I hadn't read that response yet
[03:47] <chaotix> i see...  i ordered from newark element 14...  they said they had 20 in stock, but after i ordered, when i check status, it has been saying back order...  that was 8 days ago
[03:48] <chaotix> im in the us...  phila
[03:48] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, then maybe you should be the one who needs to pay attention instead of being rude
[03:48] <tonsofpcs> chaotix: what did you order? RPi?
[03:48] <chaotix> rredd4, were you using it for a home theater?
[03:49] <brightknight> I will check myself I think they may default to https on my cd but somehow it was disabled.
[03:49] <chaotix> tonsofpcs, yeah
[03:49] <rredd4> chaotix, no just browsing
[03:49] <tonsofpcs> chaotix: I ended up having to order mine as part of kits from MCM as they didn't have any not in kits
[03:49] <tonsofpcs> MCM is the same people as Newark btw.
[03:50] <rredd4> chaotix the pi is gathering dust
[03:50] <chaotix> rredd4, was it worth the 35?
[03:50] <rredd4> chaotix not to me, haven
[03:50] <brightknight> Ubuntu: How do I verify the downloaded packages against the signing key?
[03:50] <rredd4> haven't sold it on ebay yet
[03:51] <xangua> !md5 | brightknight
[03:51] <xangua> ooh downloaded packages¿
[03:51] <brightknight> xangua: yeah they should still be in the cache
[03:52] <dr_willis> I got 2 Pis. ;) handy little things
[03:52] <tonsofpcs> I have three.
[03:52] <tonsofpcs> I don't have time to play with them right now
[03:53] <myersg> hey, I need help, sound says dummy output!
[03:53] <coventry> I got the amd64 precise pangolin minimal cd installer at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD.  It is running on a 32-bit machine.  Will it also correctly install 32-bit packages?
[03:53] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, I'm farily certain that they are automatically checked against the signing key
[03:54] <chaotix> im using a 2004 era laptop behind my tv, for xbmc currently...  got lubuntu on it, and a flirc ir remote reciever... and using cairo dock for the panel and dock...   running xbmc is fast and all is well, but outside of xbmc, it's basically a brick lol
[03:54] <chaotix> but most of what i do is in xbmc
[03:54] <brightknight> julian-delphiki: I think they are until it is bypassed
[03:54] <myersg> sound says dummy out put.
[03:54] <chaotix> im going crazy waiting for the pi, lol
[03:55] <myersg> if anyone could help me with my problem it would be great! sound says dummy output!
[03:56] <tonsofpcs> myersg: where?
[03:56] <escott> myersg, select the real output device from the drop down
[03:56] <dr_willis> chaotix:  i got one of those XIOS box's also for testing. It can do android, or a xbmc linux. it was like $100 however.
[03:56] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, it should verify everything that is downloaded using the keys in apt-key list.  are you thinking you have tampered packages?
[03:56] <dr_willis> chaotix:  but it came with built in wireless and bluetooth
[03:57] <chaotix> myersg, is this your issue?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1316634
[03:57] <cjfs> destroy pulse audio
[03:58] <brightknight> julian-delphiki: yes , how do I initiate the checking manually
[03:58] <chaotix> dr_willis, howd u like it?
[03:58] <cjfs> or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/994746
[03:58] <cjfs> use http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPO6dOPxmr8 for testing audio after
[03:58] <tigrang> If I get a daily build of 13.04, will I still get updates via apt-get upgrade or do I need to dl a daily build every time to get new updates
[03:59] <dr_willis> chaotix:  ive only tryed the android os on it.. it works.. but has issues..  Ive heard the xbmc linux on it - is very very well done however.
[03:59] <dr_willis> chaotix:  i mainly use it as a 'crunchyroll' box  since my boxeebox cant do crunchyroll any more
[03:59] <katy> histo: ok i pureged the driver and it rebooted. what should i try next?
[03:59] <escott> tigrang, you would get updates, and +1 in #ubuntu+1
[03:59] <tigrang> thanks escott
[04:00] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, It would be hard to verify every package without reinstalling them.
[04:00] <katy> does anyone have any idea how to fix the black screen at boot after installing propretiary drivers on macbook pro
[04:00] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[04:01] <chaotix> dr_willis, apparently boxee has been disappointing users all around
[04:02] <katy> dr_willis i've been trying nomodeset with little luck. i am avble to ssh into my macbook pro when the screeen is black. so editing it is the problem. i just dont know what to do.
[04:02] <chaotix> i am hoping that steam box from valve, whenever it comes out, will be inexpensive AND able to support xbmc..  that would be NICE
[04:02] <chaotix> maybe
[04:02] <dr_willis> chaotix:  thats an understatement. ;)   but crunchyroll was working on it untill just last month .. looks like its no longer a supported device. which is annoying. I dident have any advertisements on the boxeebox's crunchyroll channel. ;)
[04:02] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, what makes you think you have bad packages
[04:03] <katy> histo: are you still here?
[04:05] <brightknight> julian-delphiki: The http connections used to be https so that means some package or something changed my sources.list
[04:05] <katy> can some one help get my driver installed properly. Nothing is working ive tried (nvidia, nvidia-current, nvidia-current-updates, and bumble bee)
[04:05] <brightknight> I keep getting fake SSL certs from my wifi
[04:06] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, is your system time correct?
[04:06] <brightknight> So they faked it once then disabled it and maybe updated apt to break the verification
[04:06] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, could pastebin your sources.list
[04:06] <katy> I really want to use the propreitary driver but each time i install it. the screen goes black upon boot.
[04:07] <brightknight> julian-delphiki: its a normal list with http and not https but i distinctly recall the wifi cuttting out everytime i try to make an https request now apt is running http only
[04:07] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, the default list is http only.
[04:07] <brightknight> julian-delphiki: well for whatever reason mine used to be https
[04:08] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, the default repos do not even support https.
[04:08] <julian-delphiki> try connecting to them on HTTPS, it won't work
[04:08] <myersg> chaotix give me a minute to see
[04:09] <katy> alone know how i can install the propeitry driver on a macbook pro and avoid the "black screen of death"? please i need help!
[04:11] <brightknight> Anyone: How do I verify the packages against the signing key?
[04:11] <julian-delphiki> katy, haven't you been trying this for past like 48 hrs?
[04:11] <escott> brightknight, that will happen automatically for any package which is signed
[04:12] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, i think you're being overly paranoid.
[04:12] <brightknight> Anyone: How do I manually verify the packages against the signing key?
, i have been trying this for the last like 48 hrs? hehe im pretty determined. but ive effectivly made no progress.
[04:13] <julian-delphiki> katy, what version of MBP?
 6,2
[04:14] <escott> brightknight, there might be a way with dpkg to manually do the check
[04:14] <escott> brightknight, dpkg-sig perhaps
[04:15] <julian-delphiki> katy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro6-2/Precise#Video you followed that perviously, yes?
[04:16] <myersg> that didn't work
[04:17] <myersg> still says dummy ouput
[04:18] <katy> julian, yes. but my xorg.conf file was http://paste.ubuntu.com/1638461/ im worndering if should have been just http://paste.ubuntu.com/1638463/
[04:18] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, you should be able to get a list of packages with "dpkg -l", and then do a loop on that list and do "dpkg-sig --verify name_of_archive" on each
[04:18] <ol_dude6> can i see the home network on win7, you know join the homegroup. so i can get my music?
[04:18] <julian-delphiki> katy, I'm not sure. you could try :)
[04:19] <myersg> in my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf I do not have snd-hda-...
 ok :) doesnt seem very likely to me tho
[04:20] <myersg> hey, I have a problem! SOUND SAYS DUMMY OUTPUT
[04:20] <julian-delphiki> katy, you don't need the <'s around my name
[04:21] <julian-delphiki> !patience | myersg
[04:21] <katy> julian-delphiki, i know but when i copy paste it addes them...
[04:21] <julian-delphiki> katy, you can use the tab key to complete names.
[04:22] <katy> julian-delphiki, awesome thanks!!!!!!
[04:22] <myersg> I need to find mine on this list: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt
[04:22] <myersg> but don't know witch one I have
[04:22] <katy> julian-delphiki, with nvidia driver no installed i see there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. does mean anything?
[04:23] <julian-delphiki> not sure, katy .
[04:23] <katy> Does anyone know how to configure the xorg.conf file on MBP 6,2 to work with the nvidia driver?
[04:24] <myersg> cat /proc/asound/cards
[04:24] <myersg>  0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[04:24] <myersg>                       HDA Intel at 0x901c0000 irq 44
[04:26] <myersg> myersg@Ubuntu-Gateway:~$ sudo aplay -l
[04:26] <myersg> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[04:26] <myersg> myersg@Ubuntu-Gateway:~$
[04:26] <julian-delphiki> !paste | myersg
[04:28] <xjack> What is a good network connection program for ubuntu?
[04:29] <dr_willis> Hmm.. network manager? ;)
[04:29] <nearst> or wicd
[04:30] <julian-delphiki> wicd has been good to me when network-manager fails.
[04:30] <katy> for what ever reason when i install the nvisia driver the backlight turns off. doesn anyone know why this could be something in the xorg.conf file?
[04:30] <xjack> What's the terminal command to get and install wicd?
[04:31] <nearst> network-manager keep disconnect. idk why
[04:31] <nearst> sudo apt-get install wicd-curses
[04:31] <dr_willis> more likely a driver issue would be my gyess.. not a network manager issue
[04:31] <julian-delphiki> katy, try adding EnableBrightnessControl=1
[04:31] <julian-delphiki>  to you registrydwords
[04:31] <NeedHelp> is anyone
[04:32] <NeedHelp> smart enought
[04:32] <NeedHelp> to hep
[04:32] <dr_willis> !enter
[04:32] <NeedHelp> help the young naive and stupid me ?
[04:32] <julian-delphiki> !help | NeedHelp
[04:32] <katy> julian-delphiki, good call!
[04:32] <NeedHelp> is julian a user ?
[04:32] <katy> what is the cmd to delete a file?
[04:33] <mnathani> what is the ubuntu equivalent of /var/log/messages
[04:33] <katy> rm?
[04:33] <julian-delphiki> NeedHelp, everyone here is a volunteer.
[04:33] <dr_willis> rm = remove
[04:33] <julian-delphiki> katy, yep, rm.
[04:33] <NeedHelp> k
[04:33] <julian-delphiki> mnathani, /var/log/syslog i think?
[04:33] <NeedHelp> how
[04:33] <NeedHelp> do i private message u ?
[04:33] <dr_willis> NeedHelp:  keep it in the channel.
[04:33] <NeedHelp> ok
[04:33] <mnathani> julian-delphiki: thanks
[04:33] <NeedHelp> i want to install ubuntu
[04:33] <mrrager> does anyone here have a lenovo y580?
[04:33] <NeedHelp> alongisde win 8 on a vaio :#
[04:34] <nearst> :)
[04:34] <NeedHelp> i have no idea how to do so ... it says that my boot won't work
[04:34] <julian-delphiki> NeedHelp, Please do not private mssage, please don't use the enter key as punctuation, and please just try everything on one line.
[04:34] <NeedHelp> coz it uses dont know what arhitecture
[04:34] <julian-delphiki> NeedHelp, what laptop?
[04:34] <escott> NeedHelp, i would recommend you disable secure boot in your UEFI setup
[04:34] <NeedHelp> T13
[04:34] <NeedHelp> how do i do that ?
[04:34] <julian-delphiki> NeedHelp, T13 doesn't help.  What brand?
[04:35] <escott> NeedHelp, can't say. it depends on how Sony configured it. somewhere in the UEFI setup there should be a way to disable
[04:35] <NeedHelp> sony vaio
[04:35] <NeedHelp> w8 ill send u full name
[04:36] <|Slacker|> i read somewhere else that ubuntu was already secure boot ready
[04:36] <|Slacker|> 12.10, I mean
[04:36] <julian-delphiki> NeedHelp, http://www.ianhopkinson.org.uk/2013/01/windows-8-and-ubuntu-12-10-on-a-sony-vaio-t13-laptop/ that seems to be a good post to follow.
[04:36] <escott> |Slacker|, still easier to disable it
[04:36] <katy> julian-delphiki, does the fact that i dont hear bongos after installing driver indicate to you that enabling brightness conrol is not the issue. if it were just the screen brightness wou;dn't i still hear the bongo?
[04:36] <mrrager> does anyone know how to permanently set up 12.10 to have a default resolution of 1600x900?
[04:36] <fengxiaolong> JOIN /git
[04:36] <NeedHelp> ok thank you
[04:36] <julian-delphiki> katy, I'm not sure.
[04:36] <|Slacker|> escott, sure thing
[04:36] <bulletrulz> hey?
[04:36] <julian-delphiki> !ask | bulletrulz
[04:36] <bulletrulz> is there anyway to get the global menu in xfce?
[04:37] <julian-delphiki> NeedHelp, it seems like you might have trouble though, they recommend using a virtual machine
[04:37] <ticamai> I have a Toshiba laptop running Xubuntu, and cannot connect to the captive portal on my school network, as well as most other captive portals I have attempted to connect to. Wireless card is an Atheros AR242x / AR542x according to lspci. Any ideas?
[04:38] <|Slacker|> bulletrulz, I guess xubuntu has this feature, have you asked the guys there?
[04:38] <myersg> http://askubuntu.com/questions/254061/ubuntu-12-10-32-bit-sound-dummy-output
[04:38] <ticamai> Forgot to mention- running 12.04
[04:38] <bulletrulz> |Slacker|, no  i will do that now
[04:39] <|Slacker|> ;)
[04:39] <brightknight> Anyone: How do I manually verify the packages against the signing key?
[04:39] <escott> brightknight, you have been given multiple answers to this. please stop asking
[04:39] <brightknight> escott: apparently my wifi doesn't want them to reach me
[04:39] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, like we've said, dpkg -l, then you can probably run a dpkg-sig -v against all of them
[04:40] <julian-delphiki> brightknight, doesn't want you to reach what?
[04:40] <NeedHelp1> hi its me again ive decided to forget about dual boot and just install ubuntu is that easier ?
[04:41] <escott> Guest65868, rather than change your goals why dont you give specifics about what is not working
[04:42] <julian-delphiki> he left again, escott
[04:43] <myersg> here is my problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/254061/ubuntu-12-10-32-bit-sound-dummy-output
[04:43] <mrrager> hi all,  does anyone know how to set up 12.10 to permanently go to a resolution of 1600x900.  i have been using xrandr but i was wondering what file i can modify to have it be persistent
[04:44] <alex_xd> ™†™.flood™†™
[04:44] <escott> mrrager, do you want it for the greeter?
[04:44] <invitado-270962> ™†™hola™†™
[04:44] <mrrager> no i dont care about the greeter
[04:44] <julian-delphiki> myersg, maybe someone will answer it there.
[04:44] <invitado-270962> ™†™.flood™†™
[04:45] <julian-delphiki> !patience | myersg
[04:45] <escott> mrrager, then put it in your gnome-session-properties
[04:45] <julian-delphiki> invitado-270962, stop.
[04:45] <mrrager> will try.. thanks escott
[04:45]  * invitado-270962 #ubuntu fuck
[04:45]  * alex_xd #ubuntu haaaa fuk
[04:45]  * invitado-270962 #ubuntu fuck
[04:45]  * alex_xd #ubuntu haaaa fuk
[04:45] <FloodBot1> invitado-270962: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:45]  * alex_xd #ubuntu haaaa fuk
[04:45] <FloodBot1> alex_xd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:49] <xjack> Does anyone know?
[04:49] <julian-delphiki> xjack, repeat your question?
[04:50] <xjack> My network card driver installed, but the network button (F12) wont switch on.
[04:50] <katy> how can i send my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to pastebinit? just tried http://paste.ubuntu.com/1638502/
[04:50] <bulletrulz> wtf!
[04:50] <ticamai> Hey, my Toshiba laptop with Xubuntu feels the need to tell me every minute or two that my wired network is disconnected, any idea how to fix that?
[04:51] <escott> xjack, that button may be connected to acpi tables which may be windows specific or they might not be connected to acpitables but rely on some other mechanism
[04:51] <julian-delphiki> katy, "sudo cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit"
[04:51] <xjack> Then how would I approach turning it on with linux?
[04:51] <escott> xjack, try rfkill
[04:51] <julian-delphiki> bulletrulz, what?
[04:52] <katy> can anyone tell me why MBP 6,2 is booting to an all purple screen http://paste.ubuntu.com/1638505/
[04:52] <julian-delphiki> katy, i would merge your two RegistryDwords lines
[04:53] <xjack> I tried rfkill and it didn't do anything.
[04:53] <histo> !xubuntu | ticamai
[04:53] <histo> xjack: does rfkill show that the card is turned off?
[04:54] <histo> xjack: specifically rfkill list
[04:54] <xjack> Says soft blocked: no hardblocked yes
[04:55] <xjack> 0: hp-wifi: wireless LAN
[04:55] <escott> xjack, if you cannot turn it on with rfkill it might be easiest to boot windows and turn it on there
[04:55] <ninjafish> I want to install mysql 5.1 on Ubuntu 12.04 server via a package, is this possible? Unfortunetly I have to install a very specific version of mysql, if it was up to me I woudl choose the latest but that's not an option.
[04:56] <katy> julian-delphiki, ill try that how can i edit the file from my PC through ssh:  "$gksu gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:56] <katy> (gksu:2185): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:56] <katy> "
[04:56] <xjack> That would work if I had windows on this laptop.
[04:56] <histo> xjack: Okay is there a switch to turn wifi on and off?
[04:56] <julian-delphiki> katy, just edit it using nano or pico or something on the command line?
[04:56] <xjack> Yeah, the F12 button. >.<
[04:56] <histo> katy: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:56] <febby> i want to block downloding in ubuntu
[04:56] <julian-delphiki> febby, explain
[04:56] <escott> katy, ssh -X
[04:57] <febby> i want to block downloading , example mp3 , avi ,etc
[04:57] <Dedunu1> febby: use a proxy
[04:57] <Dedunu1> isnt it good
[04:57] <Dedunu1> ?
[04:57] <julian-delphiki> ? a proxy is not the solution.
[04:57] <julian-delphiki> febby, why block
[04:58] <Dedunu1> julian-delphiki: k
[04:58] <Dedunu1> :)
[04:58] <xjack> histo: Is there a "device manager" in linux to where I can manually enable it?
[04:58] <katy> histo: how do i save?
[04:58] <febby> in ma company every one downloading
[04:58] <escott> xjack, you are already pretty low level with rfkill. the only other thing to try would be digging around in /sys.
[04:58] <dominic_> try ips/ids
[04:58] <MoPac> [grub2 question]: Hello - I've installed 12.10 with root and swap as lvm partitions in a LUKS physical volume. Grub doesn't seem to understand that it needs to run cryptsetup and prompt me when it boots Ubuntu. What do I need to edit in /etc/grub/.d/10_linux?
[04:58] <histo> xjack: No if it's hard locked that means the hardware is locking it. Ex: a switch on the front of the laptop or a button somehwere.
[04:59] <dominic_> not sure though if such can be blocked by using a proxy which acts as a transparent one
[04:59] <febby> in ma company every one downloading
[04:59] <MoPac> [grub2 question, cont] I'm trying to follow something along the lines of http://www.pindarsign.de/webblog/?p=767
[04:59] <histo> escott: rfkill cannot unlock a device that is hard locked
[04:59] <escott> histo, hardlock could be an ACPI table call that might not be in the non-windows ACPI tables
[04:59] <julian-delphiki> febby, it'd be really hard to block like that.
[04:59] <Dedunu1> febby: how's you internet connection?
[04:59] <dominic_> febby, try to search IPS/IDS
[04:59] <histo> !rfkill | xjack
[04:59] <escott> histo, it need not be a physical switch
[05:00] <histo> escott: true it could be firmware controled
[05:00] <xjack> Then is there a way to write a script to allow my F12 (WIFI) button to enable/disable my wifi button?
[05:00] <febby> but i want to block
[05:00] <histo> xjack: What kind of wifi card is it
[05:00] <histo> febby: You'd have to use a proxy
[05:00] <Dedunu1> febby: do you like to block sites
[05:01] <xjack> It's an integrated wifi on my laptop.
[05:01] <histo> xjack: What chipset?
[05:01] <Dedunu1> histo: i mean youtube sourceforge beemp3 like that
[05:01] <escott> xjack, you could try and tell the kernel to lie to the bios and use the windows ACPI tables. don't know how well that would go
[05:01] <ninjafish> How can I install old pakages that have been removed from 12.04?
[05:01] <histo> Dedunu1: What?
[05:01] <histo> !downgrade | ninjafish
[05:01] <febby> Dedunu i know to block sites , but i want to block downloading
[05:01] <Dedunu1> histo: siorry
[05:02] <Dedunu1> febby: sorry
[05:02] <Dedunu1> febby: no idea
[05:02] <histo> febby: There are ways to accomplish that with a proxy
[05:02] <escott> xjack, see also
[05:02] <ninjafish> histo: Not trying to download an older version of ubuntu, I just need an older version of mysql
[05:02] <ovejanegra> Hey! I'm running ubuntu 12.10 on my lenovo t61 and had an error installin adobe reader and now i can't install any packages and the computer crashes. i tried the "sudo dpkg --configure -a". it says could not open dpkg's status area. file system read only. please help
[05:02] <escott> xjack, see also http://askubuntu.com/questions/152157/enable-wireless-option-is-disabled-in-network-settings
[05:02] <febby> how histo
[05:02] <gwinbeee> hipitihop: also isn't 12.04 an LTS version?
[05:02] <julian-delphiki> febby, in ubuntu? or in general?
[05:02] <gwinbeee> as in still supported?
[05:02] <asilhouette> febby: are you trying to stop downloads from all sites or just a single sites
[05:02] <febby> in ubuntu
[05:03] <histo> febby: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/squid-content-filter-block-files/
[05:03] <febby> all sites
[05:03] <gwinbeee> er, histo. sorry
[05:03] <brightknight> This is what I mean if I offered to fix all of the problems with Ubuntu I would guess that you wouldn't let me.
[05:03] <hipitihop> gwinbeee, don't remember saying anything recently, but yes 12.04 is an LTS
[05:03] <gwinbeee> hipitihop: highlighted you by accident, sorry
[05:04] <katy> ok now my screen is black again. brightness keys do nothing (f1 and f2). anyone know what going on? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1638522/
[05:04] <brightknight> I am ready to takeover the universe. Who is with me?
[05:04] <hipitihop> gwinbeee, :-) np
[05:04] <escott> brightknight, can you please keep it on topic
[05:04] <histo> febby: Aparently iptables can do it as well
[05:04] <febby> how histo
[05:04] <histo> gwinbeee: yes 12.04 is still supported downgrading is not.
[05:05] <gwinbeee> histo: ah, ok
[05:05] <julian-delphiki> febby, does everyone run ubuntu?
[05:05] <brightknight> escott: Please give me software as secure as it can be without broad spectrum hardware.
[05:05] <xjack> What would be the correct lshw comand to see the info on the WIFI hardware?
[05:05] <febby> ya
[05:05] <julian-delphiki> !offtopic | brightknight
[05:05] <febby> Julian : ya
[05:05] <brightknight> I might as well play tetris instead of use ubuntu
[05:05] <histo> febby: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1134808
[05:05] <escott> !find tetris | brightknight
[05:05] <histo> febby: The easier way if there are multiple machines is to have them use a proxy
[05:06] <febby> how histo
[05:06] <escott> xjack, lshw -C network most likely
[05:06] <dominic_> febby, yeah i agree to what histo suggested. proxy is one way how to block it. you can combined it with iptables to make it act as a transparent one
[05:06] <brightknight> histo: Why have it do anything, nothing on ubuntu is going to function properly.
[05:06] <histo> febby: You'll have to do some reading on it. It's far more than I can explain to you in here and is offtopic
[05:07] <katy> anyone know how this could cause the backlight to be off http://paste.ubuntu.com/1638522/
[05:07] <febby> k histo thanks
[05:07] <histo> katy: Did you follow the instructions for the optimus card?
[05:07] <escott> katy, have you tried EnableBrightnessControl=0 or any other value
[05:07] <brightknight> I could takeover the WWW but they are stopping me.
[05:07] <histo> brightknight: what?
[05:08] <user08> привет
[05:08] <katy> escott, no ill try now
[05:08] <ovejanegra> Hey! I'm running ubuntu 12.10 on my lenovo t61 and had an error installin adobe reader and now i can't install any packages and the computer crashes. i tried the "sudo dpkg --configure -a". it says could not open dpkg's status area. file system read only. please help
[05:08] <brightknight> I need the proper tools.
[05:08] <katy> histro,  meaning install bumble bee. i followe the tutorial you gave me i was actually about to try removing bumble bee and seeing what happens
[05:08] <histo> brightknight: are you trying to get banned?
[05:08] <escott> ovejanegra, thats often a sign of some hardware problems. can you run "dmesg | tail -n 50" and paste that to paste.ubuntu.com
[05:08] <user08_> Hi
[05:08] <brightknight> I have to start from a clean environment.
[05:09] <user08> привет ник
[05:09] <user08_> привет Тём
[05:09] <user08_> А Серёга лох
[05:09] <user08> да да да
[05:09] <zykotick9> !ru | user08_
[05:11] <ovejanegra> escott, it says "bash: /usr/bin/tail: In/ut-fel" which means I/O-error. btw, how do you change language in the terminal?
[05:11] <escott> ovejanegra, your system is trashed
[05:11] <katy> escot,http://paste.ubuntu.com/1638537/
[05:11] <katy> is giving me an all purple screen again. im gonnaa try =2 now
[05:12] <escott> ovejanegra, probably the harddrive but there is no good way to say, and its too far gone to expect much from trying to debug it. you might boot a livecd/install cd and check the smart status of the disk
[05:12] <gwinbeee> ovejanegra: my first guess would be a new HDD
[05:13] <gwinbeee> yes, what escott said
[05:13] <ovejanegra> escott, the problem is that when i tried to reinstal ubuntu with cd it crashed.
[05:13] <histo> katy: Why are you assuming that the backlight is off. You need to look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if X started without errors. I really think you should ask the mactel team here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=328
[05:13] <escott> ovejanegra, no point in trying to reinstall until you replace whatever is broken
[05:14] <gwinbeee> ovejanegra: the hard drive is bad. Nothing you do from a software end will help.
[05:14] <xjack> I found the vendor of my wireless controller, but I can't find the product.
[05:14] <escott> ovejanegra, we dont know for SURE its the hard drive, but thats the most likely culprit.
[05:15] <ovejanegra> but it seems the problems started when i was installing adobe reader and the computer crashed during istallation
[05:15] <escott> ovejanegra, if you boot the livecd then you cut the Hard drive out of the equation and can diagnose it independent of the rest of the computer
[05:16] <katy> histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1638542/
[05:16] <escott> ovejanegra, so. if you were watching a movie at the time would you blame the actress in the film?
[05:16] <zykotick9> ovejanegra: your file system is currently read-only, it MIGHT only need an fsck to fix this... just sayin'
[05:17] <escott> zykotick9, except /usr/bin/tail is unreadable
[05:17] <katy> histo, fatal server error: no screens found
[05:17] <zykotick9> escott: why i but MIGHT in capitals ;)
[05:17] <zykotick9> s/but/put/
[05:17] <escott> yes
[05:17] <escott> ovejanegra, in any case the solutions are all the same. boot the livecd
[05:18] <ovejanegra> lol! how do i take the HD out? by "try ubuntu"?
[05:18] <escott> ovejanegra, you can fsck and check smart status from there
[05:18] <escott> ovejanegra, exactly use the "try ubuntu" option
[05:18] <katy> how can i fix this fatal server error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1638542/
[05:18] <syntroPi> katy, just some additional info you might find usefull http://linux-hybrid-graphics.blogspot.de/2012/04/apple-macbook-pro-and-linux-hybrid_21.html
[05:18] <histo> katy: Because nvidia is failing to load on your intel card. You have an optimus card. It switches between intel and nvidia. You need to use bumblebee or some other means if you want to use the nvidia card. I'm out of ideas as are others here. You need to tell people you are on a mac it doesn't operate like normal hardware.
[05:18] <histo> mac uses their own optimus version.
[05:18] <histo> katy: That's why you need to try posting in http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=328
[05:18] <ovejanegra> BUT LAST TIME I TRIED it crashed before reaching that stage
[05:19] <escott> ovejanegra, if you are having problems even booting the livecd it could be bad ram, could be a flaky electrical supply, could be a lot of things
[05:19] <escott> ovejanegra, the guys in ##hardware may have more experience diagnosing and isolating the problems
[05:19] <histo> ovejanegra: do a memtest from the livecd start there
[05:19] <katy> histo: ok sounds good. im pretty sure i installed bumblebee tho
[05:19] <calibri> Hi all, i have doubt on kernel Kconfig, To select a configuration we wre using 'select' syntax.what is the syntax to not select a configuration.
[05:19] <syntroPi> histo wasnt that issue making Linus doing some special statements about nvidia?
[05:20] <histo> syntroPi: yeah
[05:20] <histo> I don't understand why someone would waste the money on mac hardware and then run linux.
[05:20] <histo> but that's just me.
[05:21] <calibri> ans please ....
[05:21]  * bean runs OS X on his macbook air.
[05:21] <xjack> Status symbol?
[05:21] <bean> imo, mac is best on mac hardware.
[05:21] <bean> !patience | calibri
[05:22] <katy> histo: do u preferr os x to ubuntu? i happen to have mac hardware and enjoy ubuntu.
[05:22] <bean> katy, no, its just that mac hardware is meant to run OSX well
[05:22] <ovejanegra> i think it's the fan. my hardware is now deassembled and the fan is out in the open. and it crashes a lot less.
[05:23] <bean> katy, you could run ubuntu in a VM on that mac.
[05:23] <histo> katy: No I wouldn't waste the money on mac hardware. it's twice as expensive as the same hardware just to have an apple on the box and black magic versions of things like optimus that don't work.
[05:23] <ovejanegra> just that now it is a combination of hardware and software trouble. really confusing
[05:23] <katy> bean, i guess lol :)
[05:23] <histo> katy: sorry for the rant just my opinion and way off topic.
[05:24] <histo> katy: Or you could run 12.04 that is shown as working by the mactel group.  Or ask those people running mactel hardware.
[05:24] <gwinbeee> katy: to try to sum up what histo's saying with an analogy, you're using an axe to swat a fly.
[05:24] <katy> histo, oh no all good. its just in my particular case i was given this MBP when i started school. so this is the cheapest hardware option FOR ME :)
[05:24] <histo> gwinbeee: and an axe with a magic handle that no one understands.
[05:24] <gwinbeee> yes.
[05:25] <histo> katy: No it's all good run with what you have. I'm just trying to tell you to ask in http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=328  You will get much better help than people in here.
[05:25] <katy> histo, i couldn't even get 12.04 to boot from my usb. but that was before i discovered the irc...
[05:25] <mikathewoof> hey, easy question for you.....   i just installed samba (not samba4 or anything like that.) just samba and whatever it comes with in synaptic.  my question is, how do i start samba for the first time?
[05:25] <mikathewoof> sudo /etc/init.d/samba   <---- cause this says file not found.
[05:25] <histo> katy: They may be able to say if 12.10 will work on your hardware also.
[05:25] <usr13> mikathewoof: It sould just run
[05:26] <mikathewoof> usr13: how come it doesn't show up in ..../init.d   ?
[05:26] <usr13> mikathewoof: All services install on Ubuntu are set to run by default?
[05:26] <histo> katy: if not we can try and figure out why 12.04 isn't working.
[05:26] <katy> histo, ok sounds good! do you know if they have an IRC as well?
[05:26] <mikathewoof> usr13: that's what i'd think... heh.
[05:26] <ovejanegra> anyway thanks guys! i will try to run live cd again and diagnose it.
[05:26] <zykotick9> mikathewoof: /etc/init.d is the old sysv, ubuntu uses upstart for "most" things
[05:26] <usr13> mkander: smbd
[05:27] <mikathewoof> how come when i type sudo /etc/init.d/samba status  it says command not found?
[05:27] <zykotick9> mikathewoof: try "sudo service sam<TAB>" and see if it autocompletes to something
[05:27] <usr13> mikathewoof: smbd  ps aux |grep smbd
[05:27] <histo> katy: I don't see one doing a search
[05:27] <zykotick9> mikathewoof: don't use init.d - it's deprecated
[05:27] <mikathewoof> zykotick9:    nothing shows up...
[05:27] <deviantlinux> Heya.  I'm trying to take a current image.img file, mount it, write some new files to it, and save it as a newer (bigger) image.  So far I have a new mount mounted, the files are there, but when I dd if=/mnt/test of=/root/latest.img bs=2048 count=0 seek=2048, the img is unusable....ideas?
[05:28] <mikathewoof> i don't get why this is difficult...
[05:28] <histo> deviantlinux: you're telling it to count0
[05:28] <katy> histo, whats your recommendation. if i could have either 12.04 or 12.10 which would you suggest. i know 12.04 is more well supported. is the difference in support significatnt how about the differnece in features?
[05:28] <deviantlinux> histo: what should I set the bs, count and seek to?
[05:28] <deviantlinux> just need a 3mb file.
[05:28] <mikathewoof> usr13: umbd ps aux | grep smbd returns nothing.
[05:28] <bean> katy, I would try 12.04 if you havent
[05:28] <usr13> mikathewoof: service --status-all
[05:29] <histo> katy: I would run 12.04 unless there is some functionality added to your hardware or usibility in 12.10 but there isn't from what I can see on the help pages. But again I would ask http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=328
[05:29] <mikathewoof> zykotick9: i didn't "use" init.d   i just found that that place should show the status by searching the interwebs.
[05:29] <mikathewoof> usr13: that shows a ?  beside smbd
[05:29] <histo> deviantlinux: well you're telling it to be a block size of 2048  and then count 0 times  you would need 3mb/2048b = count
[05:29] <histo> deviantlinux: What kind of image are you trying to make here?
[05:30] <katy> histo, ok i gotta make a 12.04 disk real quick.
[05:30] <usr13> mikathewoof: edit the config and restart it
[05:30] <histo> deviantlinux: is this supposed to be a cd iso?
[05:30] <deviantlinux> histo: it's just a .img from a floppy.  I am trying to up the size to 3mb and make a new img so I can use it for other things.
[05:30] <usr13> !samba | mikathewoof
[05:30] <mikathewoof> usr13: how do i start it?  that is my only problem.  then it should start on it's own i'd think....
[05:30] <usr13> mikathewoof: service
[05:30] <histo> deviantlinux: So you want the image to contain certain files ahead of time?
[05:30] <gwinbeee> mikathewoof: sudo restart smbd, if memory serves
[05:31] <deviantlinux> histo: For simplicity's sake, can I just take a mounted directory and make a new image based on it's contents?
[05:31] <histo> deviantlinux: yes that's why I don't undertand why you are trying to make it bigger than it needs to be
[05:32] <deviantlinux> histo: because when I mount the original image with -o loop, I only have 1.4MB to work with, and I need at least 3mb to work with for my new image.
[05:32] <usr13> mikathewoof: sudo service smbd restart
[05:33] <histo> deviantlinux: le tme do some testing
[05:33] <deviantlinux> histo: thanks!
[05:33] <gwinbeee> mikathewoof: ignore my comment, do what usr13 said
[05:34] <usr13> mikathewoof: see man service
[05:34] <gwinbeee> usr13: my kung-fu is not as strong as yours...
[05:34] <mikathewoof> i did sudo service smbd restart    it started.  then sudo service smbd status   it shows it running.
[05:34] <usr13> gwinbeee: haha... prolly some of it is...
[05:34] <mikathewoof> usr13: i think it's working now. i gotta jump o n my other pruter and see if a share shows up.
[05:34] <usr13> mikathewoof: okeydokey
[05:35] <user09> пилювет
[05:35] <gwinbeee> !ru | user09
[05:35] <histo> deviantlinux: try something like dd if=/path/to/original.img of=/path/to/newfile.img bs=1 count=0 seek=3M
[05:35] <user09> пкнокноугоуукго
[05:35] <user08_> Hi
[05:35] <user08_> piders
[05:35] <deviantlinux> histo: but that will give me a new image of 3mb, cool, but I still gotta add new files to the bigger image
[05:36] <deviantlinux> I just need to add 2 files lol
[05:36] <user08_> Fack you
[05:36] <bean> user08_, stop;.
[05:36] <histo> deviantlinux: mount the image add the files an unmount it
[05:36] <deviantlinux> histo: will unmounting write back to the image or something?
[05:37] <histo> deviantlinux: it's just a sparse file at this point you can write whatever you want to it.
[05:37] <histo> deviantlinux: If you gave it a filesystem taht would be more usuable
[05:38] <mikathewoof> usr13: i think i need to give the network a jiffy to realise that there is a samba server on the network now...
[05:38] <histo> deviantlinux: For instance mount your 1.4mb image form a floppy it's probably fat16 or 12 .  Then make a fat img that's 3mb and mount that. Then copy the files from the old to the new and add your new files too
[05:38] <histo> deviantlinux: Does that make sense?
[05:39] <usr13> mikathewoof: Assign your samba server a static lease.
[05:39] <katy> histo, ok i put in my 12.04 usb i boot holding opt i select EFI icon im pressented a black grub menu. i select "try ubuntu without installing" then screen boots to the ubuntu with 5 dots the dots change from white to red then they all turn red and it freezes there.
[05:39] <deviantlinux> yeah, I can copy files just fine if the image is mounted...my problem is what do I do after they are copied to the mount?  Just unmount?  Or do I then need to do another DD command?
[05:39] <deviantlinux> histo: ^^
[05:39] <usr13> mikathewoof: (which is all you should need to do)
[05:40] <histo> deviantlinux: just unmount then remount and see if the files are there.
[05:40] <mikathewoof> usr13: my router has a feature to give the server computer a static ip.     is that what you mean?
[05:40] <deviantlinux> yeah, tried that.  I couldnt remount lol
[05:40] <deviantlinux> histo: remounting gave me this: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[05:40] <deviantlinux> etc
[05:41] <deviantlinux> histo: I will try again, one sec
[05:41] <usr13> mikathewoof: I use a dd-wrt router and set all PCs to static lease and give them names I can use.  So if I have a webserver on ws  I just can just go to http://ws/
[05:41] <nearst> loop0...
[05:41] <usr13> mikathewoof: Yes
[05:41] <usr13> mikathewoof: Some routers call it static IP and some call it static lease.
[05:41] <mikathewoof> usr13: hmm, i have two dd-wrt routers. i haven't seen that feature...
[05:41] <deviantlinux> histo: dd if=../../fdpxe.img of=/root/newimage.img bs=1 count=0 seek=3M
[05:41] <deviantlinux> histo: mount -o loop /root/newimage.img /mnt/thumb/
[05:42] <usr13> mikathewoof: It's there.
[05:42] <deviantlinux> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[05:42] <katy> hello i put in my 12.04 usb  in my MBP 6,2 i boot holding opt i select EFI icon im pressented a black grub menu. i select "try ubuntu without installing" then screen boots to the ubuntu with 5 dots the dots change from white to red then they all turn red and it freezes there. what should i do?
[05:42] <mikathewoof> usr13: i just using my file manager and type in smb://192.168.1.6  and hope it loads some shares...
[05:42] <histo> deviantlinux: yeah we need to put a file system on it before we put files there.
[05:43] <deviantlinux> histo: I think I get it.  Gimme a sec.
[05:43] <usr13> mikathewoof: Under Services, you'll see "Static Leases"
[05:43] <histo> deviantlinux: Here this page will epxlain https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sparse_file
[05:43] <usr13> mikathewoof: It will, but only if you've set them up in the config.
[05:43] <mikathewoof> usr13: i'll play with that. that sounds good. i'll have to do that on a diff computer though.... thanks for the tip.
[05:44] <mikathewoof> usr13: what do you mean, set them up in the config?
[05:44] <mikathewoof> usr13: i haven't touched the config yet.
[05:44] <histo> deviantlinux: Also it doesn't have to be a sparse file unless you want to really save disk space.
[05:44] <usr13> mikathewoof: Touch it.
[05:44] <katy> histro, i am trying to get 12.04 to work but i cant even boot from the disk
[05:45] <histo> deviantlinux: You could dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/new/image bs=1M count=3 && mkfs.vfat /path/to/new/image     Then mount it and write to it.
[05:45] <deviantlinux> histo: So I made the 3MB file, mkfs.msdos'd it, copied files to it, then umounted.  Looks like remounting works now.  So really, when I am writing to the mounted drive, I am writing to the image directly.  Lol duh.  Didnt see that until now
[05:45] <mikathewoof> usr13: touch what?
[05:45] <histo> deviantlinux: yes
[05:45] <mikathewoof> usr13: or are you being funny?
[05:45] <deviantlinux> histo: thanks so much!
[05:45] <usr13> mikathewoof: The config.  But if you're sharing with other Linux PCs, just use nfs.
[05:45] <histo> deviantlinux: if you want to write it to a drive you can.
[05:45] <histo> deviantlinux: assuming the drive has enough space to hold it.
[05:46] <deviantlinux> histo: I meant I am writing to the img file directly, when it's loop mounted
[05:46] <usr13> mikathewoof: What? We can't be funny on #ubuntu?
[05:46] <histo> deviantlinux: yes.
[05:46] <deviantlinux> cool.
[05:46] <thresh> hi. I'm using 12.10 and seems like all the icons have disappeared from my unity vertical management panel.
[05:46] <histo> deviantlinux: and then images can be written to block devices like floppy's and hard drives or cds etc...
[05:46] <thresh> how do I get them back?
[05:47] <deviantlinux> histo: exactly.  In this case, I am using it over a pxeboot so no real media needed after this.
[05:47] <mikathewoof> usr13: we are nerds here. no comedy allowed.  comedy is for #windows  where they say "i have a virus again. what do i do?"
[05:47] <katy> can someone please help me install 12.04 on my MBP. i know that sounds brought but i've tried a bunch of things and idk what to do...
[05:47] <mikathewoof> usr13: what is this nfs?  i share with winders clients and linux clients on my network.
[05:48] <bean> katy, I think it might be time to give it up. :\
[05:48] <isaias> Since ubuntu is becomming more and more popular. Should I worry about viruses?
[05:48] <histo> katy: You can't boot the 12.04 off of usb or cd right... what happens when you try?
[05:48] <histo> !av | isaias
[05:48] <deviantlinux> isaias: as long as you dont start running everything as root, and keep your system up to date, don't worry about it.
[05:48] <katy> histo,  i boot holding opt i select EFI icon im pressented a black grub menu. i select "try ubuntu without installing" then screen boots to the ubuntu with 5 dots the dots change from white to red then they all turn red and it freezes there
[05:49] <katy> histo, if i add nomodeset it boots to a cmd prompt
[05:49] <katy> histo, if i add single to grub options it boots to a black screen
[05:50] <isaias> i read somewhere, a long time ago, that Linux didnt get viruses because there wasn't that many people using linux compared to windows (amung other things). What makes linux so secure?
[05:50] <histo> katy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation#Obtaining_Help
[05:50] <histo> katy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation sorry meant this link it walks you through it.
[05:50] <katy> histo, if i select "install ubuntu" otion and add "nomodeset" the GUI installer does boot and i can install. bit then i cant boot to that installation
[05:50] <usr13> mikathewoof: Here are some tips (for your /etc/samba/smb.conf file): http://paste.ubuntu.com/1638595/
[05:51] <Rabblerouser> What is "Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV730"? Did I install my graphics drivers correctly?
[05:51] <mikathewoof> usr13: thanks.
[05:51]  * mikathewoof reads.
[05:51] <usr13> NP
[05:51] <usr13> (I used my name cuz it's shorter)
[05:52] <histo> katy: I don't know anything about macs. That page has way more knowledge put into it then I have about the subject. If you don't want to read that page I would recomend the mactel forum link or pray that someone in here has a macbook like yours.
[05:52] <isaias> I know one would be because of root. Windows creats an "admisistrator" and has access to EVERYTHING unlike Linux which creates a "quarentined" area away from root.
[05:52] <isaias> where the user can use the computer without access to EVERYTHING
[05:52] <isaias> any other reasons?
[05:53] <histo> isaias: it's all about priveledge escallation basically.
[05:53] <histo> isaias: and permissions
[05:53] <bean> isaias, and about having lots of eyes on the source code.
[05:53] <katy> histo, ok i got u, i have followed that to a T and can't get passed the step i discribes. which is why i was thinking it would be harder to get 12.04 on my MBp
[05:53] <nearst> Rabblerouser, try check on glxinfo
[05:53] <bean> katy, is this USB or CD
[05:54] <nearst> or fglrxinfo
[05:54] <katy> bean, usb
[05:54] <mikathewoof> usr13: thanks fer yer help. everything works well you bastid!
[05:54] <histo> katy: You are trying to dualboot right?
[05:54] <Rabblerouser> glxinfo returns... a whole lot of stuff. D: My god..
[05:54] <mikathewoof> usr13: my name is just mika on thre... heh. it's my dog's name.
[05:54] <isaias> how many people actually work on making ubuntu? and how can I be part of it? :P
[05:55] <histo> !devil | isaias
[05:55] <bean> katy, you might try actually using a CD.
[05:55] <histo> !devel | isaias
[05:55] <mikathewoof> isias:  there are 6 people. they live in the UK.
[05:55] <usr13> mikathewoof: A tip for dd-wrt, (should you decide to use it).  Create only one "Static Lease" at a time, click "Save Settings" before adding another.
[05:55] <histo> !dev | isaias
[05:55] <katy> bean, yeah i bet that would work but my optical drive is broken
[05:55] <mikathewoof> isaias: they bow to a man named shuttleworth!
[05:55] <katy> histo, yes
[05:55] <Rabblerouser> fglrxinfo: command not found
[05:56] <usr13> mikathewoof: ... and the names you give it will resolve to corresponding IPs.  (I suppoes other routers will do the same, but not many.)
[05:57] <mikathewoof> usr13: oh?   well, i have three routers going. one (not a dd-wrt) that gets the internet from the modem, one (dd-wrt) across the house to bridge to the first one, and one more (a dd-wrt also) for connecting to the neighbors stolen wifi for when i want to torrent or rape xdcc channels.)
[05:58] <isaias> wow, this is all pretty cool, lol
[05:58] <usr13> mikathewoof: Interesting.  I have one at my son's next dore to bridge as well, but it's hardwired to it and I just have the DHCP server turned off.
[05:58] <histo> katy: Are you following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation#Dual-Boot:_Mac_OSX_and_Ubuntu  ???
[05:58] <usr13> *door* not dore
[05:59] <katy> histo, yeah that was i was originally using
[05:59] <histo> katy: Then you may want to state what part is failing. In here to ellicit better help.
[05:59] <usr13> mikathewoof: ... it's wifi and so it bridges everything that connects to it and runs it through mine here.
[06:00] <katy> histo, hear in the irc or on the wiki?
[06:00] <katy> *here
[06:00] <usr13> mikathewoof: ...it has different essid and pass so that I can tell them apart.
[06:00] <histo> katy: Yes here. Or in the mactel forums. I'm tyring to help you get help since I don't know the answers to your questions is all.
[06:01] <histo> !details | katy
[06:01] <usr13> mikathewoof: ... outside cable just plugs into a LAN port
[06:02] <usr13> Ok, gotta go folks  TTYL
[06:05] <katy> histro, i actually wrote a rather long forum post on this issue about a week ago. nobody has responded last i check should i link you to that. or would like me to rewrite here and try to make it more consise?
[06:05] <c_nick> I wanted to install an OS on my portable USB Drive.. I tried with winusb software and it wanted to format.. i clicked cancel but by then it had wiped off the drives can i get back my data ?
[06:06] <bean> c_nick, winusb?
[06:06] <histo> katy: I don't know how to fix your problem
[06:07] <bean> katy, no one here knows how to fix, you might want to post in the mactel forums again
[06:07] <katy> histo,i know you don't. its ok. didnt you say something about detailing this issue.
[06:07] <c_nick> bean: http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/winusb-create-bootable-windows-installer-usb-in-ubuntu-linux/
[06:07] <bean> c_nick, so you created a windows install disk and destroyed what was on there?
[06:09] <Boner> ahahahahha
[06:09] <Boner> fui hackeado por uma menina
[06:09] <Boner> kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[06:09] <Boner> to abandonando esse ubuntu
[06:09] <bazhang> Boner, wrong channel
[06:09] <c_nick> bean: i had no idea it was going to format.. it said chose a partition and gave me two options sda and sdb so i selected sdb and then it said formatting after taking the root password where i clicked cancel
[06:09] <Boner> abraços ai desculpem qualquer coisa
[06:09] <c_nick> bean: and now i see only one partition there..
[06:09] <unheeding> !english Boner
[06:09] <unheeding> darn
[06:09] <c_nick> bean: via gparted
[06:10] <dr_willis> c_nick:  and what fs was on the sdb drive?
[06:10] <unheeding> 23:09 <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about english Boner
[06:11] <c_nick> dr_willis: 3 partitions : 1st: NTFS 2nd: FAT32 (Empty) 3rd: NTFS
[06:12] <dr_willis> thers some partion recovery tools.. but ive never really used them.
[06:14] <bean> c_nick, http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-data-recovery.html looks like that may be useful for you
[06:14] <bean> c_nick, especially "testdisk" which can analyze a disk and search for lost partitions
[06:15] <c_nick> bean: thanks I will read on that
[06:22] <histo> dr_willis: testdisk
[06:22] <histo> !carve | c_nick
[06:23] <histo> !undelete | c_nick
[06:26] <l057c0d3r> whois Ez0ver1d3
[06:26] <l057c0d3r> blah sorry forgot the /
[06:31] <b0nn> hm, I'm having problems with trying to get gl working on my laptop. I was following this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1741783 which suggests removing nvidia-common and nvidia-settings, however when I remove those ubuntu-desktop gets taken too, replacing ubuntu-desktop replaces the nvidia packages.
[06:31] <b0nn> any ideas?
[06:31] <dr_willis> ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package. it dosent hurt to have it removed
[06:33] <b0nn> when it gets removed I end up with an unbootable machine (xorg gets taken too
[06:33] <dr_willis> you can do a 'apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop' and it shouldent remove anything except that meta package.. it shouldent remove xorg or anything else.
[06:33] <b0nn> the unbootable part is a hang on X initialisation
[06:33] <b0nn> ok
[06:33] <b0nn> I'll try again
[06:34] <b0nn> but if it doesn't boot, so help me I'll reinstall it!
[06:34] <b0nn> :)
[06:34] <dr_willis> I dont get what you are really trying to do. gl works for me with my nvidia cards and the nvidia drivers from the repos.
[06:35] <b0nn> I have an intel choipset
[06:35] <b0nn> er chipset
[06:35] <b0nn> the thread I linked to seems to think the nvidia-* is interfering with my drivers
[06:36] <jkingaround> how do i set x11vnc to run all the time? -forever doesn't work. :/ idk what to do
[06:36] <b0nn> http://pastebin.com/h37tRGaH
[06:36] <dr_willis> jkingaround:  what are you trying to acomplish exactly?
[06:36] <b0nn> brb
[06:37] <arunkumar413> hi, is there any good application for t-shirt design
[06:38] <dr_willis> if theres one for windows you like arunkumar413  try it in wine. Ive not used any apps like that in years. ;) Wife made a whold bunch of teeshirts one xmas.
[06:38] <dr_willis> id just draw up mine in gimp and print it.
[06:38] <arunkumar413> can i use ubuntu logs for t-shirts
[06:38] <dr_willis> logs?
[06:39] <jkingaround> dr_willis: be able to VNC in all the time..
[06:39] <jkingaround> it shuts off after one session currently
[06:39] <jkingaround> and i have to reopen it via ssh
[06:39] <histo> !1984 | arunkumar413
[06:39] <arunkumar413> dr_willis: sorry logos
[06:39] <dr_willis> Jikan:  I tend to just ssh in and start a tightvnc session i connect to..  it Dosent share the current visible desktop.. but it is a persistant session.
[06:40] <histo> arunkumar413:http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/licensing
[06:40] <peterrooney> dr_willis:  That's what x11vnc was created for.
[06:40] <dr_willis> x11vnc shares the current desktop. i rarely ever want that feature.
[06:41] <dr_willis> I perfer persistant vnc sessions that are in the background
[06:41] <b0nn> ok, so that worked, I now have glxgears :D
[06:41] <jkingaround> okay.. well that's the feature i want cuz i'm not going to have a monitor
[06:41] <arunkumar413> histo: i've gpone through that doc before .it only says about software license
[06:41] <histo> arunkumar413: http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/license
[06:41] <dr_willis> jkingaround:  actually with a headless display you do NOT want to use x11vnc.
[06:41] <tad-pole> arunkumar413: Use Gimp.
[06:41] <histo> arunkumar413: http://askubuntu.com/questions/164616/can-i-use-the-ubuntu-logo-on-t-shirts-produced-non-comercially
[06:41] <jkingaround> dr_willis: why not
[06:42] <b0nn> more importantly, I now have stellarium :D
[06:42] <jkingaround> it's not "headless" it just doesn't have a monitor connected
[06:42] <b0nn> dr_willis: thanks
[06:42] <dr_willis> jkingaround:  because it wont work right.. it wont see the proper monitor. so it wont have the res correctly.
[06:42] <dr_willis> no monitor = headless.
[06:42] <jkingaround> okay. thought it meant no gui
[06:42] <jkingaround> a
[06:42] <jkingaround> and as far as resolution
[06:42] <jkingaround> e
[06:42] <jkingaround> everything works fine
[06:42] <FloodBot1> jkingaround: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:42] <histo> arunkumar413: more specifically http://askubuntu.com/questions/58428/can-the-ubuntu-logo-be-used-for-a-commercial-website
[06:42] <dr_willis> theres constantly people commin in here fighting with X11vbnc and a headless setup. they then switch to tightvnc or vnc4server
[06:43] <jkingaround> my keyboard is messing up
[06:43] <jkingaround> and tightvnc didn't do what i want
[06:43] <dr_willis> what do you want? it most likelyu can
[06:43] <histo> !freenx | jkingaround
[06:43] <Kris_CGo> So I ran fdisk /dev/sde write table, but apparently it did it to sdb instead because when i rebooted the drives are in a different order... how do you get back the first partition, the second is still there  sdb2, but sdb1 is gone... ugh why are hdds names arbratrairly instead of their model or label like in widows /mac...
[06:43] <rking> I work on a project that uses 10.4 as its production platform. I want to develop on the same system, but I also want some tools (like vim, tmux, etc) to be at bleeding edge versions. Am I best installing from their repos or is there a good backports system or something?
[06:44] <jkingaround> histo: i mean that's a different protocol than VNC correct?
[06:44] <tad-pole> arunkumar413: Use Gimp. http://www.redbubble.com/people/pauk/journal/2140756-tutorial-creating-a-shirt-design-using-gimp
[06:44] <histo> Kris_CGo: Windows naming convention is completely jacked comapaired to linux
[06:44] <Kris_CGo> histo: Ya well at least I can see the damn partition labels
[06:44] <histo> Kris_CGo: You typed in the wrong drive
[06:45] <Kris_CGo> Yes
[06:45] <histo> Kris_CGo: device ids and partition labels are two different things
[06:45] <histo> !testdisk | Kris_CGo
[06:45] <histo> Kris_CGo: the testdisk app maybe able to recover the partition table you overwrote
[06:45] <arunkumar413> histo, tad-pole, i want to use the logos for both commercial and non-commercial
[06:46] <histo> Kris_CGo: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/3158/hard-drive-device-partition-naming-convention-in-linux
[06:46] <tad-pole> You can use whatever you make in gimp for whatever you want.
[06:46] <histo> arunkumar413: Then you would need to fill out a trademark request for the comercial, and possibly the non comercial
[06:48] <jkingaround> i just dont get why i can't use x11vnc, histo
[06:50] <dr_willis> x11vnc uses the current visible desktop.. tha twill run X. that wont see any monitor - so will guess at what res its supposed to use.
[06:50] <dr_willis> You can set up the normal vnc services to respawn as needed. or start up a persistant session at boot time
[06:51] <Kris_CGo> Ya I know the naming convention, but it's useless when sdb swaps with sde, and all 8 drives are all 1TB, can't tell them apart beyond the lables
[06:51] <jkingaround> hm… but i mean when wont i be seeing the right thing? i dont get it lmao
[06:51] <dr_willis> seeing what right thing?
[06:52] <jkingaround> i mean, what's wrong with x11 i think it's the right thing for me. when would it mess up
[06:52] <Kris_CGo> Is there a way to get ubuntu to display drive serials like on mac/windows so I can tel one apart from the other? I don't care if sdc become a huge name, but I need something to go by
[06:52] <dr_willis> i has messed up for numerous people in here - i see about 3 a month fighting with X11vnc on monoitorless displays./
[06:52] <histo> jkingaround: You can but how much time are you going to waste on this. Weren't you complaingin that x11vnc is slow?
[06:53] <dr_willis> X polls the monitorr for the info.. there is none.. it then uses some fallnback settings
[06:53] <histo> jkingaround: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/3158/hard-drive-device-partition-naming-convention-in-linux
[06:53] <jkingaround> no the normal built in one was slow. x11 works right
[06:53] <dr_willis> X11vnc MAIN feature is it shares the current visible/running X desktop.. wihcih is not really needed
[06:53] <bean> !blkid | Kris_CGo
[06:53] <zykotick9> Kris_CGo: research UUIDs and LABELs
[06:53] <histo> jkingaround: sorry wrong link check this http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/faq.html#faq-headless
[06:53] <dr_willis> if you want the most speed.. freeNX is the way to go.
[06:53] <jkingaround> so what should i be using
[06:53] <jkingaround> but normal VNC clients can't work with that?
[06:54] <dr_willis> NX uses NX clients
[06:54] <dr_willis> is this to be on a local lan or over the internet?
[06:54] <jkingaround> both
[06:54] <jkingaround> mostly the second tho
[06:54] <dr_willis> then NX is a better answer.
[06:54] <histo> jkingaround: You could also try xrdp
[06:55] <histo> jkingaround: windows clients and ubuntu default installs would be able to connect then with more sspeed than stock vino also
[06:55] <Kris_CGo> bean: Well that's useful, is there a way to automount with the uuid name?
[06:55] <jkingaround> i mean it means that i'm going to need a seperate program and cant just use built in VNC on my mac
[06:55] <histo> !xrdp | jkingaround
[06:55] <histo> jkingaround: Your make will be able to use rdp protocol
[06:55] <dr_willis> nx clients exist for macs i imagine
[06:55] <histo> jkingaround: your mac
[06:55] <bean> Kris_CGo, sure is.
[06:55] <jkingaround> hmm so there's no good normal VNC option?
[06:55] <bean> !fstab | Kris_CGo
[06:55] <ceil> how do i make ubuntu 12.10 behave like debian wheezy? just install gnome3?
[06:56] <ceil> (cos this default setup is ugly and cumbersome ;_;)
[06:56] <dr_willis> ceil:  gnome3 is allready included on 12.10
[06:56] <dr_willis> and gnome-shell is in the repos. or avail via ppas for newer versipons
[06:56] <histo> jkingaround: nvm looks like xrdp just tunnels vino or something
[06:56] <ceil> dr_willis: is that what debian uses, where it's got the clean desktop and you move the mouse to top-left to access the panel/pager/etc?
[06:57] <jkingaround> so i mean, if i want to use freenx i'll have to get an nx client? since it's not VNC
[06:57] <dr_willis> thats now gnome-shell works on ubuntu for me ceil
[06:57] <Kris_CGo> bean: I'm surprised it can do that do easily... but it isn't that way by default.
[06:57] <ceil> my first impression when i logged on to ubuntu was "why the hell are icons all over my desktop, and why is there no easy option to remove them?" ;x
[06:57] <ceil> dr_willis: neat
[06:57] <ceil> cheers
[06:57] <bean> Kris_CGo, yep, *shrug*
[06:57] <dr_willis> ceil:  unity is a shell on top of gnome-3    gnome-shell is an alternative shell for gnome-3
[06:58] <dr_willis> icons over the desktop? i dont recall unity having icons over the desktop...
[06:58] <ceil> dr_willis: unity is hideous and, at a glance, a pain in the arse. i see why it has a bad rep :x
[06:58] <dr_willis> ceil:  it is not hidious. and it works very well.
[06:58] <ceil> my whole ~ seems to have icons for the desktop
[06:58] <ceil> even an avi file
[06:59] <dr_willis> ceil:  if you are seeing your /home/username  files on your desktop - you got some messed up settings
[06:59] <Kris_CGo> How much faster is gnome3 than it was at release? When ubuntu moved over I bailed and changed to xubuntu because it's faster than gnome2/3
[06:59] <ceil> dr_willis: clean install of ubuntu, but i am reusing my ~ from my previous debian installation
[06:59] <ceil> it might've been the gnome-shell, but debian didn't have icons all over my desktop
[06:59] <dr_willis> ceil:  thats why then. Your default settings are all messed up.
[07:00] <febby> i want to take bake up of log files
[07:01] <jkingaround> dr_willis:, histo: can't seem to find freenx when i use apt-get
[07:01] <jkingaround> E: Unable to locate package freenx
[07:01] <dr_willis> !nx
[07:01] <histo> jkingaround: http://askubuntu.com/questions/136219/vnc-session-very-slow-in-12-04-compared-to-older-versions
[07:01] <jkingaround> followed the instructions there
[07:01] <dr_willis> I basically only use ssh for remote access these days.. since im remoteing in from my android phone. ;)
[07:03] <aeon-ltd> dr_willis: is it possible to do voice recognition to a terminal from a android phone?
[07:03] <dr_willis> aeon-ltd:  never looked into it. I dont even use voice controll on the phone itself
[07:05] <histo> dr_willis: Same here ssh or if I really need it on a customers machine teamviewer
[07:05] <jkingaround> so why can't i find it to install? :/
[07:06] <dr_willis> !info freenx
[07:06] <histo> jkingaround: I don't believe freenx is being updated anymore.
[07:06] <jkingaround> :(
[07:06] <jkingaround> sooo.. can't use it?
[07:08] <sree> hi
[07:08] <histo> jkingaround: http://www.bgevolution.com/blog/vnc-compression-quality-the-works/
[07:08] <histo> jkingaround: http://www.cs.vassar.edu/sysnews/vnc/speed_tips
[07:08] <sree> hi
[07:08] <histo> jkingaround: Most likely your client is not compressing the connection
[07:09] <histo> !hi | sree
[07:10] <jkingaround> but i mean, x11 works fine… i just need it to stay on
[07:10] <jkingaround> t
[07:10] <jkingaround> hat's the only problem
[07:10] <sree> hi histo
[07:10] <ceil> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade is still the way to update everything on ubuntu innit?
[07:10]  * ceil 's makin' sure apt isn't configured differently between debian and ubuntu is all
[07:11] <devslash> has anyone here run one of the ubuntu variations in virtual box ? I'm using ubuntu 12.10 in virtualbox and unity is very slow and sluggish
[07:11] <Myrtti> ceil yup
[07:11] <ceil> Myrtti: cheers
[07:11] <dr_willis> devslash:  try lubuntu 12.10 it should be snapier in vbocx
[07:12] <histo> jkingaround: Also you know you can forward X apps over ssh right?
[07:12] <Myrtti> ceil for release upgrades there's other tools
[07:12] <ceil> not with putty ;x
[07:12] <devslash> what graphical manager does that use ?
[07:12] <dr_willis> You can X forward via putty..
[07:12] <ceil> Myrtti: crap i forgot about release upgrades. is 12.10 LTS? :x
[07:12] <dr_willis> if you got a X server for it to forward to.. like Xming in windows...
[07:12]  * ceil always manages to break stuff when upping the version number
[07:12] <jkingaround> histo: i just need to run in permanently.. how hard can that be
[07:13]  * jkingaround hits head against wall
[07:13] <ceil> dr_willis: i couldn't find the option :o i don't use it anymore so it's a bit of a moot point, but i remember trying and only ever being able to get to mah shell
[07:13]  * ceil shrugs
[07:14] <devslash> dr_willis: besides the DE is lubuntu based on the latest version of ubuntu with the same package manager ?
[07:14] <ceil> dr_willis: oh you mean you need an X thing installed on Windows, /then/ putty will forward it?
[07:14] <Myrtti> ceil I mean for upgrading from one release to another, apt works fine for keeping a release secure and updated
[07:14] <dr_willis> xming has a wizard tool to connec to a ssh server and do X forwarding
[07:14] <Halite> heya
[07:14] <ceil> dr_willis: does it run without being installed like putty?
[07:14] <aeon-ltd> devslash: yes it is
[07:14] <dr_willis> ceil:  never noticed.. i just install it.
[07:15] <ceil> dr_willis: i was needing ssh when connecting from my stepdad's Win7 PC, which he keeps locked down :x
[07:15] <histo> jkingaround: when you ssh -X server.ip.address   then you launch a GUI based app   and it will launch on the local X server
[07:15] <devslash> is the installer the same as well ? I wanted to use encrypted LVM
[07:15] <ceil> putty you just download an exe and run it; no installation, no win7 asking for a password
[07:15] <aeon-ltd> devslash: never used it
[07:15] <jkingaround> histo: wut? o.O
[07:15] <ceil> srsly though, is 12.10 LTS?
[07:16] <histo> jkingaround: Is your server setup to ssh?
[07:16] <jkingaround> yes
[07:16] <histo> jkingaround: okay connect to it with ssh -X serverip
[07:16] <Rabblerouser> How would I uninstall this? http://pastebin.com/ZWXGuTPS And go back to a the makson PPA I was using before?
[07:16] <aeon-ltd> ceil: no, but next time google it
[07:17] <histo> jkingaround: or -Y  -X is untrusted X forwarding -Y is trusted
[07:17] <histo> jkingaround: once you are connected type xeyes or xcalc or xclock  to launch that applicaiton on your local display
[07:17] <binary> How do I install the programs from my other bootable linux onto this boot?
[07:17] <amiu> use UCK
[07:17] <amiu> th:P
[07:19] <jkingaround> nas@nas:~$ xclock
[07:19] <jkingaround> Error: Can't open display:
[07:19] <Rabblerouser> :o Let's try this again.. How would I uninstall this? http://pastebin.com/ZWXGuTPS And go back to a the makson PPA I was using before?
[07:19] <histo> jkingaround: are you using screen?
[07:19] <jkingaround> screen?
[07:19] <histo> jkingaround: Did you use the -X or -Y option?
[07:20] <SwedeMike> ml
[07:20] <Rabblerouser> Just you helping again, histo?
[07:20] <SwedeMike> oops
[07:20] <histo> Rabblerouser: nah others are here.
[07:20] <jkingaround> -X
[07:21] <jkingaround> just tried with Y
[07:21] <jkingaround> same thing
[07:21] <lost_cause> I am having issues authenticating users to send email through an email client using pam.  I get the following error in my auth logs http://pastebin.com/qejM0hX5 . I am using 12.04 server and postfix, saslauthd
[07:21] <histo> jkingaround: What ssh client are you using?
[07:21] <jkingaround> built in mac ssh
[07:21] <histo> Doesn't mac have a built in X server anymore?
[07:21] <jkingaround> it should
[07:22] <histo> jkingaround: check your /etc/ssh/sshd_config  and make sure X forwarding is enabled
[07:22] <histo> on the server
[07:22] <jkingaround> meaning my local? or the one i'm sshing into
[07:23] <histo> jkingaround: the one your sshing into silly
[07:23] <histo> jkingaround: there should be a X11Forwarding yes   in that file
[07:23] <febby> hwo can i enter in to root @103.235.192.117 with out knowing password
[07:23] <jkingaround> X11Forwarding yes
[07:24] <jkingaround> yup it's there
[07:24] <febby> hwo can i enter in to root @103.235.192.117 with out knowing password
[07:24] <febby> hwo can i enter in to root @103.235.192.117 with out knowing password
[07:25] <histo> jkingaround: Okay there must be a problem with mac then no more X server I guess
[07:25] <dr_willis> febby:  err... you dont as far as i know. Unless you got physical access to the box.
[07:25] <jkingaround> X11 is not included with Mountain Lion, but X11 server and client libraries for OS X Mountain Lion are available from the XQuartz project: http://xquartz.macosforge.org. You should use XQuartz version 2.7.2 or later.
[07:25] <nearst> ssh by user unless ure allow root at /etc/sshd_config
[07:25] <jkingaround> kk dling now
[07:26] <jkingaround> but will my friend on windows be able to do this?
[07:26] <jkingaround> i mean really i just need to ssh
[07:26] <histo> jkingaround: Yeah install that. on your mac and you will be good to go.
[07:26] <jkingaround> but he'll need to VNC
[07:26] <jkingaround> s
[07:26] <histo> jkingaround: Your friend can install a X server for windows
[07:26] <dr_willis> loging in directly as root over ssh is disabled via the ssh config files.
[07:26] <jkingaround> so thats what i'm trying to set up....
[07:26] <jkingaround> i mean how hard could it POSSIBLY be
[07:26] <jkingaround> :/
[07:26] <histo> jkingaround: he can then use putty to ssh in and launch apps like you are.
[07:26] <dr_willis> I don t find Xming very hard to use on windows.
[07:27] <jkingaround> i mean he's not so CLI savvy
[07:27] <jkingaround> s
[07:27] <jkingaround> so i just want him to vnc in
[07:27] <Myrtti> vnc over ssh then
[07:27] <jkingaround> how tho
[07:27] <dr_willis> you need xming for a x server for windows. it comes with its own putty. or you can configure the normal putty for X forarding to xming
[07:27] <histo> jkingaround: If he can vnc in he can use putty and install a local X server Or vnc over ssh
[07:27] <nearst> it is more safe if u ssh using user
[07:27] <jkingaround> he has no idea what hes doing is what i'm saying
[07:27] <histo> jkingaround: I would use what dr_willis is suggesting sounds easy
[07:27] <jkingaround> like i want to set it up for him to just open a vnc client and be in
[07:27] <dr_willis> febby:  msging someone '???' really dosent say much of anything..
[07:28] <dr_willis> febby:  and i alllready answered  you in the channel.
[07:28] <dr_willis> febby: you dont as far as i know. Unless you got physical access to the box. Direct logging in as root is also disabled over ssh
[07:28] <histo> jkingaround: Get yours working first
[07:29] <jkingaround> ffs
[07:29] <histo> ?
[07:29] <jkingaround> how do i set up a permanent x11vnc sesh.
[07:29] <jkingaround> that's my question
[07:29] <syntroPi> jkingaround, idk if you asked for X11 on windows but there is Xming
[07:29] <jkingaround> (for fucks sake)
[07:29] <febby> k
[07:29] <ejv> !language | jkingaround
[07:29] <histo> oh language
[07:29] <dr_willis> i just start a vnc server from the rc.local
[07:29] <dr_willis> if needed
[07:29] <jkingaround> i just want it running...
[07:30] <jkingaround> like in case i'm on windows without putty installed
[07:30] <jkingaround> i mean srslt
[07:30] <jkingaround> *srsly tho
[07:30] <histo> !vnc | jkingaround
[07:30] <ejv> there has to be hundreds of articles via google on the subject
[07:30] <dr_willis> you can also set up xinetd to spawn vnc sessions on connection
[07:30] <dr_willis> I seem to recall lightdm also having a feature/setting. but never tried that method
[07:30] <histo> jkingaround: did you get X installed on your mac?
[07:31] <jkingaround> my brain hurts.
[07:31] <histo> all this can be done through ssh and will be much more secure. Your server is going to get hammered when you open it up to theoutside world btw.
[07:31] <jkingaround> is my question that hard...
[07:31] <histo> jkingaround: We've answered you
[07:31] <jkingaround> not really. you've given me MORE ways to do what i want
[07:31] <dr_willis> gave 3 differnt ways it could be done just now.. ;)
[07:31] <jkingaround> which isn't what i want
[07:31] <jkingaround> like… really.
[07:32] <histo> jkingaround: Okay then restate your question.
[07:32] <dr_willis> theres never a single answer.. it depends on to many things
[07:32] <jkingaround> no it doesnt. ugh. I currently have SSH and x11VNC running.
[07:32] <ejv> jkingaround: the support you get here is "voluntary"; leave the entitlement at the door. if nobody knows how to answer, post a new thread on the official ubuntu forums, or askubuntu.com. good luck.
[07:32] <jkingaround> i just want to have a permanent VNC session running at all times so i can VNC in
[07:32] <dr_willis> so set lightdm to auto login, and spawan X11vnc since you seem fixated on x11vnc
[07:33] <dr_willis> or have rc.local spawn a vnc session as the user you want at boot time.
[07:33] <jkingaround> well i mean i dont get what's wrong with it. and freenx doesn't work which is what you suggested
[07:33] <jkingaround> i mean it shouldnt be this complicated is all
[07:33] <histo> jkingaround: it's slow as you already found out
[07:33] <jkingaround> no it's not
[07:33] <dr_willis> because you said earlier you are doing a headless display. that will cause issues with x11vnc but not tightvnc or vnc4server
[07:33] <jkingaround> the speed is fine
[07:34] <jkingaround> and tightvnc doesn't show what i want and idk how to even open anything
[07:34] <dr_willis> I have no idea what you mean by 'show what you want'  tightvnc can display the exact same desktop as you get when you login if you configure it to do so.
[07:34] <histo> jkingaround: tightvnc spawns a spereate display you'd ahve to start a DE or window manager in that display.
[07:34] <histo> jkingaround: if you want it to you can configure it to display your current desktop.
[07:34] <jkingaround> then how do i do that histo.
[07:35] <histo> jkingaround: So now you want to switch to tightvnc?
[07:35] <jkingaround> ugh idk.
[07:35] <histo> im confused now
[07:35] <dr_willis> tightvnc docs i belive detail the use of  the .vnc/xstartup script
[07:35] <jkingaround> i just want it to work.
[07:35] <jkingaround> ><
[07:35] <histo> jkingaround: please let me know when you have X forwarding working to your mac
[07:35] <histo> jkingaround: That's what I was walking you throuhg.
[07:35] <dr_willis> most stand alone vnc serves use that file
[07:35] <dr_willis> I tend to just use jwm for my vnc sessions
[07:35] <aguuu> Would anybody recommend a linux distro for amazon cloud services? I am a beginner to linux servers. I just want to install apache, php, maybe node.js and python, etc. Run my own DNS server.
[07:36] <histo> Seriously I can't open this mentos gum container wth
[07:36] <dr_willis> aguuu:  most likely best to stick to 12.04 for that.
[07:36] <histo> aguuu: 12.04 server
[07:36] <dr_willis> why you need to run your own dns server...  :)
[07:37] <aguuu> histo: dr_willis, I have heard that ubuntu server, unlike ubuntu desktop, is mostly for advanced users. is that true?
[07:38] <histo> aguuu: No there are guides you can follow. It will be alot easier to use than settig up yoru own DNS will be.]
[07:38] <dr_willis> aguuu:  its just ubuntu with no default desktop basically...
[07:38] <cfhowlett> aguuu, more that Userver is for those who want/need  a server
[07:38] <dr_willis> install a service on the desktop = You got a server. ;)
[07:39] <aguuu> soo.... ubuntu server has no desktop? it needs me to use the command line only?
[07:40] <dr_willis> aguuu:  thats sort of the point of the 'server' is it has no desktop ;)
[07:40] <aguuu> is it easy to enable X server and VNC so that i can do things in the UI?
[07:40] <cfhowlett> aguuu, by defautl, no desktop environment ...
[07:40] <cfhowlett> aguuu, quite easy
[07:40] <ruan> why would you want server
[07:40] <dr_willis> if you want a desktop.. install the desktop
[07:40] <aguuu> do people use the console only?
[07:40] <dr_willis> aguuu:  im on a console only system right now.. My Raspberry Pi
[07:40] <aguuu> I can't chose the desktop. it's amazon cloud.
[07:40] <aguuu> well i can, but i'd have to upload the image myself
[07:40] <dr_willis> i dont see why you want to be 'learning' on the cloud...
[07:41] <aguuu> dr_willis: raspberry pi has desktop
[07:41] <jkingaround> i have x forwarding set up
[07:41] <aguuu> dr_willis: why not? do i have to learn BEFORE doing?
[07:41] <jkingaround> can run xclock etc
[07:41] <dr_willis> aguuu:  yes i know it can do desktop.
[07:41] <aguuu> don't you need to run X in order to use x forwarding on the server?
[07:42] <histo> good
[07:42] <dr_willis> aguuu:  i suggest  a normal install of ubuntu., or playing with in a vbox session,. I dont see the point in paying for a amazon server
[07:42] <aguuu> just point me in the right direction. should i stick to the terminal or install X and use x forwarding? or use VNC? or what
[07:42] <davidhurwic> what minimum tech specs do i need to run 10.12
[07:42] <histo> jkingaround: Now what do you want to do?
[07:42] <aguuu> dr_willis: it's free. and i will set up my website there. it's not just for learning.
[07:42] <jkingaround> histo: run VNC?
[07:42] <syntroPi> aguuu, all depends on your intended usage of that installation
[07:43] <guideX> aguuu I just use vnc
[07:43] <aguuu> syntroPi: i plan to run many websites in it
[07:43] <dr_willis> aguuu:  you dont even know the basics of running a server.. but you plan on running many web sites... ;)
[07:44] <syntroPi> aguuu, well then config files, console and web ui are you friends i guess. no need for X11 and such
[07:44] <aguuu> dr_willis: i know how to run a server. just i'm new to it. especially on linux.
[07:44] <guideX> I try to use ui for everything, i'm not a fan of the commandline
[07:44] <cfhowlett> aguuu, are you familiar with the saying "You must walk before you run"?
[07:45] <aguuu> syntroPi: ok. i'll try that. if it doesn't work, ill install X and a UI
[07:45] <unheeding> heh.  X.  such noobs
[07:45] <aguuu> cfhowlett: yes. i don't like it. i run.
[07:45] <Guest73773> yes gracias
[07:45] <cfhowlett> aguuu, OK, then ... good luck with that.
[07:46] <aguuu> what's better about redhat? or in which case would i prefer it?
[07:46] <syntroPi> aguuu, if you would use VirtualBox you can experiment and use snapshots to resume to working states
[07:46] <guideX> redhat suxors
[07:46] <aguuu> is it more suited to internal intranets instead of the internet?
[07:46] <aguuu> syntroPi: yes i can download the image and use it in virtual box. if i need to.
[07:48] <nil_> hi!! I have a problem with phpmyadmin on ubuntu 12.10. I have a setup of apache2 with suexec , suphp and fcgid. Everything is working fine except phpmyadmin. Whenever I try to access it, it shows a download window
[07:48] <syntroPi> aguuu, redhat intends to provide stable interfaces to commercial software and support
[07:48] <nil_> Can anyone help me out with this?
[07:48] <amiu> nil_,  try asking in #web or #httpd or #php
[07:48] <aguuu> syntroPi: that sounds good. but why should i use ubuntu instead?
[07:49] <cfhowlett> aguuu, perhaps this discussion is better suited to #ubuntu-server channel??
[07:49] <syntroPi> aguuu, much wider spread in free software usage and better community imho
[07:49] <cfhowlett> nil_, also a great question for #ubuntu-server  ???
[07:49] <aguuu> cfhowlett: oh yes.
[07:50] <amiu> ubuntu server isnt for phpmyadmin script
[07:50] <nil_> thanks amiu, I will try there
[07:50] <aguuu> amiu: why not?
[07:50] <amiu> !ot
[07:50] <aguuu> oh nevermind
[07:51] <aguuu> i thought you were saying ubuntu is not compatible
[07:51] <amiu> nope ubuntu works fine with phpmyadmin under apache. i run it myself
[07:51] <arunkumar413> i want to run MS office in ubuntu using wine. does it have the same experience as if i'm running on windows
[07:51] <unheeding> it should be the same, it might be a bit slower
[07:52] <aguuu> arunkumar413: obvious answer: no
[07:52] <MonsterFanfan> arunkumar413: why not libreoffice
[07:52] <dr_willis> arunkumar413:  you mean crashes as much? ;)
[07:52] <cfhowlett> arunkumar413, libreoffice 4.0 ...
[07:52] <arunkumar413> dr_willis: no, the fonts, colors and etc,.
[07:53] <arunkumar413> dr_willis: i like the menu style of ms office. they are organized very well
[07:53] <cfhowlett> !wine|runkumar413,
[07:54] <cfhowlett> arunkumar413, try it with wine but don't expect the exact performance ... or consider the available alternatives ...
[07:55] <aguuu> Do you know how to use the free tier storage when creating a compute unit at amazon cloud?
[07:57] <somsip> aguuu: use a t1.micro and you get it for free. That's it
[07:58] <davidhurwic> i am looking to upgrade to 10-12, but unsure my hardware can handle it, what specs should i have it have it run smoothly and not run at a crawl?
[07:58] <ikonia> davidhurwic: spec's are documented on the website
[07:59] <arunkumar413> i always wanted to contribute to the open source software but there is any clear document about the softwares. there  is just thousands of lines of source but there is no proper doc which part of the code deals with what feature of the progam
[08:00] <aguuu> somsip: yes, but how much? the free tier says 5GiB storage. However, when creating the compute unit, it prompts me to create a disk with 8GiB!!! is this a trap to charge me?
[08:01] <somsip> aguuu: these answers are on the Amazon website. Except maybe the question about being trapped
[08:01] <ikonia> arunkumar413: you learn that, and each software project has it's own documentation/knowledge base
[08:02] <guideX> does ubuntu 12.10 work well on the gateway netbook lt2802u
[08:02] <guideX> ?
[08:02] <aguuu> somsip: yes exactly. that's why it's confusing
[08:02] <ikonia> guideX: that's a pretty specific question, I'd suggest looking at the hardware components and checking their linux support/issues
[08:02] <guideX> it's a fairly widespread all over the place netbook
[08:02] <guideX> it's in most of the major stores, best buy etc
[08:02] <ikonia> guideX: so there should be good documentation on it
[08:03] <guideX> I will check it out
[08:03] <dr_willis> 12.10 seems to work well on my 2 older netbooks
[08:03] <dr_willis> if unity is to much fo them. use Lubuntu
[08:03] <somsip> aguuu: you are looking at the free S3 storage. You should be looking at EBS storage. And this is OT
[08:03] <guideX> well that in particular is what i'm wondering, will it take unity
[08:03] <ikonia> guideX: check your graphics cards support
[08:04] <dr_willis> test  it with a live usb and see guideX .
[08:04] <guideX> hmm good idea
[08:04] <aguuu> somsip: the default was to use 8GiB from EBS. so yes, i guess this is a trap
[08:04] <amiu> i wouldnt use unity on a netbook if you are worried about performance. but then again unity ran fine on my 900MHz AMD Duron
[08:04] <guideX> or I could do the install inside windows too..
[08:04] <guideX> it does have a 256gb hdd
[08:05] <somsip> aguuu: see my last answer
[08:05] <cfhowlett> guideX, lubuntu and xubuntu are optimized for low spec and legacy hardware ...
[08:06]  * amiu recommends Ubuntu Studio. it runs XFCE and you wont have to spend all day installing the stuff you'll be needing
[08:06] <Jack> How do I access other users files using root access?
[08:07] <dr_willis> just cd to their homes.. and have fun. :)
[08:07] <dr_willis> using the root shell
[08:07] <dr_willis> unless of course they have encrypted homes
[08:18] <Jack> How do I uninstall my fglrx driver?
[08:19] <Jack> Nevermind.
[08:24] <vaq> Hello, what can the cause be of mtab not updating? I have a sshfs mount in fstab, that is mounted. I can see the files at the mountpoint, but not see the mount in mtab/when typing mount. cat /proc/mounts shows it
[08:26] <nearst> only mount
[08:26] <dr_willis> Hmm.. since sshfs uses fuse.. perhaps you are overlooking it?
[08:26] <dr_willis> i cant say ive ever needed to mess with mtab.
[08:26] <vaq> dr_willis: overlooking what? when typing mount it's not there, when typing cat /proc/mounts it's there.
[08:29] <dr_willis>  look for things using the fuse system perhaps.
[08:34] <catchmycube> good morning
[08:34] <dhadh> what changes should i make if i want to connect two laptops using lan wire to run my webchat python code?
[08:35] <dr_willis> changes?  You mean theres no router?  just a direct lan cable?
[08:36] <ejv> how do you even respond to a question like that... there's absolutely no details.
[08:36] <dr_willis> thats why we are experts at playing 20 questions in this channel. ;P
[08:36] <dhadh> dr_willis: yes. I want to just exchange simple messages from one laptop to another. There are no routers. Direct connection using lan wire.
[08:36] <amiu> you ask probing questions to determine the root cause of the support call, or you ask them to restart
[08:36] <tobias_93>           has joined #ubuntu
[08:36] <dr_willis> dhadh:  static ips on both box.s or just install a dhcp server on one. and use the ip#s
[08:36] <ejv> 20 questions are absurd. People should learn to ask better questions.
[08:37] <ejv> !details
[08:37] <dr_willis> a straight wired connection needs to either use a Crossover cable.. or a normal cable with GIgibit networking ports
[08:38] <amiu> dhadh,  if you install dhcp server, make sure you disable it if you ever connect it to your office's LAN
[08:38] <dhadh> dr_willis: i am using the codde on this site http://code.activestate.com/recipes/531824-chat-server-client-using-selectselect/ . what changes should i make to runt this?
[08:39] <dr_willis> dhadh:  no idea. i dont code.. if its using ips then set up ip#'s on the boxs
[08:39] <dhadh> code* run* . I cannot run dhcp server
[08:39] <dhadh> dr_willis: on one of my laptops running 12.04, I am not able to manually set static ip. The save option is disabled.
[08:40] <dr_willis> i tend to just use dhcp. im on 12.10 on my machines however.
[08:43] <woo> hola
[08:43] <cfhowlett> !es|woo,
[08:43] <woo> sorry I do speak english
[08:46] <dr_willis> 0_o
[08:48] <catchmycube> hello
[08:49] <cfhowlett> catchmycube, greetings
[08:49] <dr_willis> howdy
[08:50] <nearst> catchmycube, cfhowlett dr_willis , greetings
[08:51] <zkron> accidentally did "chmod -R myuser /etc". Couldn't sudo, but fixed that by using pkexec. However, with all the rest of the contents of /etc set to my user as owner, can I just do "chmod -R root /etc" to set all /etc contents back to root as owner, or will that cause problems?
[08:51] <catchmycube> i am new in IRC. Is it normally, that there are now talks in rooms with more than 20 member?
[08:51] <Ben64> zkron: you mean chown?
[08:51] <zkron> Ben64: yes, sorry it's late here
[08:52] <nearst> sometime screen goes fast
[08:52] <cfhowlett> nearst, greetings to you.
[08:52] <dr_willis> 20? ;) ive seen over 3000 in here on release day
[08:52] <cfhowlett> catchmycube, yes perfectly normal.  Have you an ubuntu support question?
[08:52] <Ben64> zkron: you should be more careful with sudo and root stuff
[08:52] <cfhowlett> nearst, run faster!  OK, that was stupid ... What do you mean?
[08:53] <catchmycube> no. i don´t have. so it´s not ok to write here?
[08:53] <zkron> Ben64: Yes, I know. Late night error.
[08:53] <dr_willis> !ask
[08:53] <nearst> cfhowlett, i mean chat screen
[08:53] <zkron> Ben64: So, is it borked now?
[08:53] <flintser> catchmycube: you might want to turn off leaving and and joining messages for readability in here :)
[08:53] <llutz> zkron: chowning to root should be ok, there are only few files not root-owned in /etc (iirc)
[08:53] <Ben64> zkron: are the groups still unchanged?
[08:53] <cfhowlett> nearst, got it.
[08:53] <zkron> Ben64: groups are unchanged
[08:54] <MoL0ToV> configure: WARNING: X Windows development tools were not found.
[08:54] <MoL0ToV> configure: WARNING: Please install xlib-dev or xorg-x11-devel.
[08:54] <MoL0ToV> what's the package name in ubuntu?
[08:55] <Ben64> zkron: i'm not seeing anything not owned by root in my /etc
[08:55] <zkron> llutz: okay. thanks.
[08:55] <zetheroo> I have been trying to find where online I can search for package versions in various releases
[08:55] <zkron> Ben64: cool. thanks for checking!
[08:55] <nearst> MoL0ToV, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[08:56] <Ben64> zkron: wait found one "-rw-r----- 1 bind bind   77 Nov  7 23:21 rndc.key"
[08:56] <nearst> recommended to prepare build environment, especially dev platform
[08:56] <spikey> hi
[08:56] <spikey> i'm using Unity on ubuntu 12.04 and I need your help. I use these commands for add an icon to dash dockbar: cp /home/user/my-defaults.gschema.override /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/ && glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/; If I remove this icon from dockbar, when I want to reinstall the icon, I want to do it whit init scripts and gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites doesn't work without login. How can i to do
[08:56] <ircfreak> hi
[08:56] <zkron> Ben64: k. thanks
[09:05] <zkron> Once I get my system sorted out again, is there a way to create a snapshot of my entire system (in the form of an ISO) on USB or DVD so that I can do a total recovery if I ever need to? Is there a tool for that
[09:06] <cfhowlett> zkron, dd
[09:06] <zkron> cfhowlett: okay, I'm familiar with dd. thanks.
[09:08] <tga_> greetings
[09:08] <zetheroo> ,v qemu
[09:08] <tga> any idea why `watch ./foo.txt` would say permission denied?
[09:08] <zetheroo> how do I look for package versions in here?\
[09:09] <dr_willis> tga:  watch runs a command ...  you are trying to run a script named foo.txt?
[09:09] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, package versions are better found through your terminal .. apt-cache policy ...
[09:09] <dr_willis> !version
[09:09] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, for instance apt-cache policy evolution ...
[09:09] <zetheroo>  cfhowlett: ah I see
[09:09] <zetheroo> thanks
[09:10] <jamie236> Hello. I'm having problems with ar9285 on lenovo g575, detailed debug ouput can be found at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2115166. Any help would be appreciated.
[09:11] <zetheroo> hmm ... ok but how do I see the version of the originating package - not Ubuntu's package info ?
[09:11] <tga> dr_willis: ah, fail, I was under the impression watch will trigger the command when the watched file changes
[09:11] <zetheroo> for instance  ... I need to know what versions of QEMU are available in Ubuntu 12.04 and above
[09:11] <tga> dr_willis: know of anything that will do that?
[09:11] <dr_willis> !info fam
[09:12] <tga> dnotify, hmm
[09:12] <tga> fam, even better
[09:12] <tga> gotcha, thanks
[09:13] <tga> great, fam is what I really wanted
[09:16] <zetheroo> how do I see the version of the originating package - not Ubuntu's package info ?
[09:18] <tga> dr_willis: to be precise, the actual answer is fileschanged, based on fam
[09:19] <dr_willis> I rarely need to mess with that stuff these days. ;P
[09:21] <roger_> good evening everyone..  If I've added a new user to xubuntu (pretty sure I've given new user full access and sudoer), Is it ok to delete the original user created on installation?
[09:22] <dr_willis> roger_:  login as the user and use them for a few days. ;)  be sure they can sudo and so forth..
[09:22] <tga> dr_willis: I'm trying to trigger the less compiler when my stylesheets change, and it's surprisingly non-obvious
[09:22] <cfhowlett> roger_, don't see why it wouldn't be ...
[09:22] <tga> inotifywait could work too, but it's more complicated
[09:22] <dr_willis> roger_:  check the groups for the old and new users also.
[09:23] <roger_> dr_willis, cfhowlett: Yeah everything seems fine, only thing is when I install new packages from software center it makes me enter original users password
[09:24] <dr_willis> hmm... somthing seems wrong there.
[09:24] <cfhowlett> roger_, even when booted as the new sudoer???
[09:24] <ncdmr> roger_: or at least logged off, logged in with the new user?
[09:25] <roger_> cfhowlett, dr_will: Pretty sure I rebooted after adding to sudoer. Let me go reboot to make sure..  brb
[09:28] <tziOm> I get a segfault with updated 12.10 and exim4/spamassassin/clamav combo
[09:30] <roger_> Yeah it still makes me enter original user password to install packages from software center
[09:30] <thoonai> hi
[09:30] <cfhowlett> roger_, that is some weird stuff.  does the other sudo account function; login logout?
[09:30] <roger_> yeah
[09:31] <roger_> cfhowlett: yeah it does
[09:31] <cfhowlett> roger_, if other sudoer works, I'd suggest you login, downgrade the first sudoer properties and test again.  do NOT delete first sudoer yet ...
[09:32] <zetheroo> what versions of Qemu are available in Ubuntu 12.04 and over ?
[09:32] <dr_willis> !info qemu
[09:32] <roger_> cfhowlett: forgive me here (i'm a linux newb), but by downgrade you mean simply set old user to desktop user instead of admin in users and groups?
[09:33] <cfhowlett> roger_, yes
[09:33] <roger_> cfhowlett: ok thank you..
[09:33] <cfhowlett> roger_, best of luck ...
[09:36] <roger_> cfhowlett: yeah old user is already set to desktop user. Only thing that is weird, is the old user is part of a group with same name as his username, and there is no group named after new user.
[09:37] <roger_> actually..! strike that!
[09:37] <roger_> old user is already set to desktop.  but new user does have his own group
[09:41] <thoonai> hoy anyone playing katawa shoujo?
[09:41]  * dr_willis has no idea what that is.
[09:42] <thoonai> python crashes as I try to run it
[09:42] <thoonai> dr_willis: some japanes visual novel flash game with python
[09:42] <thoonai> without flash though
[09:43] <thoonai> got e segfault ...
[09:44] <holywater> hii guys :)
[09:44] <thoonai> holywater: hi
[09:44] <mob_> hi
[09:44] <thoonai> and again segfaulted
[09:45] <holywater> :) hey do you guys know any cool game of ubuntu
[09:46] <zetheroo> !info libvirt
[09:46] <ThinkT510> holywater: 0ad can be fun, its in the repo
[09:46] <holywater> ThinkT510,  thanks
[09:46] <zetheroo> !info virt
[09:46] <zetheroo> !info libvirt0
[09:47] <mob_> !info
[09:47] <ThinkT510> !msgthebot | zetheroo
[09:47] <mob_> !help
[09:47] <mob_> Building initial module for 3.2.0-37-generic
[09:47] <mob_> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-37-generic (i686)
[09:47] <mob_> Consult /var/lib/dkms/virtualbox/4.1.12/build/make.log for more information.
[09:47] <mob_> dpkg: error processing virtualbox-dkms (--configure):
[09:47] <mob_>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10
[09:47] <mob_> No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[09:47] <FloodBot1> mob_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:47] <flintser> !paste | mob_
[09:48] <thoonai> holywater: i was told yesterday that katawa shoujo should be something interesting, but its segfaulting
[09:48] <mve> Hello, I am using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bit with Exim 4, I was wondering if I would to backup my config, should I backup /etc/exim4/ and /var/lib/exim4/ (I backup the maildirs seperately) for restoring the config of Exim? (split files btw)
[09:48] <ekv> Hi
[09:49] <ekv> who can help me with mysql on ubuntu server? :)
[09:49] <flintser> !ask | ekv
[09:49] <mob_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1638970/
[09:50] <ekv> I have problem whit "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"
[09:50] <mob_> Building initial module for 3.2.0-37-generic
[09:50] <mob_> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-37-generic (i686)
[09:50] <mob_> Consult /var/lib/dkms/virtualbox/4.1.12/build/make.log for more information.
[09:51] <aguuu> where is the apache server support channel?
[09:51] <k1l_> mob_: stop pasting that into the channel here
[09:51] <ekv> aguu what u need about apache?
[09:51] <k1l_> !alis | aguuu
[09:51] <tziOm> Is anyone here interested in a kernel segfault in updated 12.10 using exim4/spamassassin/clamav/nfs ?
[09:52] <mob_> Building initial module for 3.2.0-37-generic
[09:52] <mob_> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-37-generic (i686)
[09:52] <llutz> ekv: "sudo service mysql restart" then try again. if it still errors, check logs /var/log/...
[09:52] <ekv> llutz did allredy
[09:52] <ekv> googled everywher cant find what is problem
[09:53] <ekv> there is 10000 of solution i know that error (2) is cant find file
[09:53] <ekv> but?
[09:53] <chrisevans1001> hi. i wonder if somebody can advise me. i have chmod -R a directory and given user RWX, group RW and other none. when i try to open files within the directory by users within the group... it opens blank. if i change permissions to execute, it opens with contents. what am i missing?
[09:56] <llutz> !permissions | chrisevans1001:  you want to read about directories and the executable bit (traverse)
[09:59] <tryas> How do I regret update-rc.d sms3 defaults?
[10:00] <chrisevans1001> hi thanks. yes ive read the page but thats maybe where i am confused still then:
[10:00] <vedic> How to disable home directory encryption?
[10:00] <chrisevans1001> i dont need to view the directory, im trying just to open the file. the file has RW on it. the directory the same. under the user im trying nano /mydirectory/myfile - it opens blank
[10:01] <chrisevans1001> if i change the users permissions to execute, it opens with content
[10:02] <dr_willis> the directory needs to be 'exectable' in order to access things in it
[10:03] <chrisevans1001> oooooooooh. the examples ive read have just said allow cd into it - i assumed it meant for the purposes of listing its contents, didnt realise that thanks.
[10:03] <vedic> How to disable home directory encryption?
[10:04] <chrisevans1001> works perfectly - cheers willis
[10:04] <dr_willis> Hmm. I belive you have to access the encrypted stuff..  copy it somewhere else.. then disabel the encryption and copy it back. but i never use the feature
[10:04] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com may have a better written guide.
[10:04] <X_o> !help
[10:05] <X_o> !patience
[10:09] <vedic> How to disable home directory encryption?
[10:09] <llutz> vedic: http://www.howtogeek.com/116179/how-to-disable-home-folder-encryption-after-installing-ubuntu/
[10:11] <civirok> Does anyone know how to get the taskbar back in ubuu
[10:11] <civirok> Ubuntu !
[10:11] <Tecan> how do i enable typing sounds system wide ?
[10:12] <Tecan> i like to hear typerwriter sounds
[10:12] <Tecan> gnome
[10:12] <jakey1> what is the best remote destop viewer on ubuntu 12.04
[10:12] <SgtTrombelli> xforwarding
[10:12] <vedic> llutz: thanks
[10:12] <SgtTrombelli> with ssh
[10:13] <mbeierl> jakey1, depends on what you want to do.  View an MS Windows desktop from Linux, or host remote desktops on Linux for Windows or other Linux clients, or ...?
[10:14] <jakey1> I have ubuntu on a vm on my windows 7 and I want to remote view my other computer with ubuntu on it?
[10:15] <SgtTrombelli> jakey1 if you using two computer with linux  you can use xforwardin and ssh
[10:15] <jakey1> that is ssh -x ?
[10:15] <jakey1> -X
[10:15] <dr_willis> or just use the basic vnc stuff for local lan.
[10:16] <mbeierl> jakey1, so, to be clear: you want to view Linux computer #1 from Linux computer #2 (a VM on WIndows 7)?
[10:16] <jakey1> yes
[10:16] <dr_willis> if you can see the other pcs monitor. you can use synergy to controll it.
[10:16] <mbeierl> jakey1, then I agree with dr_willis about VNC.  Vinagre is built in to the stock 12.04 Ubuntu.
[10:17] <dr_willis> actually dosent vbox have some sort of remote client feature?
[10:17] <jakey1> basically I trying to set up a vm server on the native ubuntu machine, but I want to do it on a remote desktop viewer as opposed to through a terminal
[10:18] <mbeierl> dr_willis, that would work for viewing the VMs, not the native Ubuntu.  But, ya I think it just uses VNC - like VMware does
[10:18] <histo> !nvc | jakey1
[10:18] <histo> !vnc | jakey1
[10:18] <histo> dr_willis: Yeah it's remote client feature is vnc based
[10:18] <mbeierl> !FreeNX
[10:19] <mbeierl> Wow.  Didn't realize that FreeNX was still alive.  I've only ever used NoMachine's implementation.
[10:21] <agu10^> i screwed up my apache installation. is there any way to undo everything i've done on my ubuntu machine (it's not much), or do i have to reinstall the OS?
[10:21] <dr_willis> I think it may be sickly. ;) someone mentioned its not getting much updates any more
[10:21] <jakey1> so I have a choice of Vinagre or freenx
[10:22] <mbeierl> dr_willis, that would be my experience with freenx
[10:22] <dr_willis> vnc or nx, ssh X forwarding can be used in some cases.
[10:22] <mbeierl> jakey1, until you need more than VNC, I'd go with that first as it does not require much to set up (ie: no software to install)
[10:22] <yeehaw> agu10^: If it's purely Apache that's corrupt you could remove it and reinstall it?
[10:22] <mbeierl> Is there a vinagre factoid?
[10:23] <dr_willis> !vnc
[10:23] <agu10^> yeehaw: it's not corrupt. i was installing mod python and mod wsgi, but they asked me to modify many config files. i don't want those files to remain the same. how can i reset them?
[10:23] <dr_willis> !vinagre
[10:24] <mbeierl> polled the bot a bit, and came up empty
[10:24] <flintser> agu10^: purge apache2, and remove /etc/apache2
[10:24] <dr_willis> !brain
[10:24] <mbeierl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[10:24] <vedic> how to check if a user has admin rights?
[10:24] <flintser> agu10^: then install again
[10:25] <mbeierl> vedic: "groups userid" from a terminal
[10:25] <jakey1> What is the terminal code to install the vnc?
[10:25] <mbeierl> jakey1, so  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers and scroll down to the part about vino for stock 12.04 ubuntu.
[10:28] <agu10^> should config go in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf, or /etc/apache2/sites-available/default, or /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default ???
[10:28] <awestroke> I have a sysrq prompt marker flashing on the left side of the screen. If I hold alt while press sysrq and then hold shift, I get the sysrq prompt from that marker.  It is a black box approx 10px*20px in size. It starts on the top left part of the screen and moves down then I interact with the sysrq prompt
[10:29] <awestroke> agu10^: put each site config as a file in sites-available
[10:29] <awestroke> enabled*
[10:29] <awestroke> I mean
[10:29] <awestroke> sorry, as a file in sites-enabled
[10:31] <agu10^> awestroke: i don't get it. the tutorials all point to different places!
[10:32] <awestroke> agu10^: what do you want to do?
[10:32] <agu10^> awestroke: just set up .py and .psp files to be ran by mod python!
[10:32] <agu10^> why do i have 3 places for the same config files?
[10:32] <agu10^> where should i put stuff and why do tutorials put them in 3 different places instead of one?
[10:33] <khatri> HELP with SSH connection...please ! When I try to connect from my home to my office via ssh -X , it says something CONNECTION REFUSED and port 22 bla bla bla....
[10:33] <awestroke> agu10^: the files in sites-enabled are loaded by the apache2 config. the files in sites-available can be enabled with the command a2ensite. Put global settings in the main config file, put site-specific settings in separate files in sites-enabled
[10:34] <awestroke> agu10^: Apache can host several websites simultaneously. So we don't want it to parse everything as python if you have a site serving php too
[10:35] <awestroke> khatri: add the -v flag to the ssh command. Are you sure port 22 is forwarded to your work computer?
[10:36] <dragonz> hey gyus, i have an ubuntu vm, i can ping ineternet hosts/ips but i cannot install any package using apt-get... keeps saying "Failed to fetch"
[10:36] <dragonz> anyone can help me out with this?
[10:36] <wolfbyte> Yo all, does anyone know where I can get a gigantic list of internet radio stations that I could dump into Rhythmbox in one shot?
[10:36] <khatri> awestroke: OKAY !
[10:37] <awestroke> dragonz: go to software sources, open Download from: ->Other, click Select Best Server
[10:37] <agu10^> awestroke: i want .py files and .psp files to work.
[10:37] <wolfbyte> oh shit, net split, hang on
[10:37] <agu10^> awestroke: in all websites. just like php does by default!
[10:37] <dragonz> awestroke, sorry, forgot to mention that im running ubuntu server, not desktop
[10:37] <awestroke> ah
[10:37] <flintser> agu10^: general config goes to httpd.conf, i rarely use that, you can use sites-available default conf for your own site, duplicate "default" -> "mysite" and then do changes to "mysite". after that a2ensite mysite to enable it
[10:38] <yeehaw> dragonz: What version are you running? cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:38] <MarKsaitis> I have a package which is in a repo and I can't install it thorough apt-get. Somebody sugested me to use dpkg --force-conflicts to install it. The package doesnt conflict in a file level... anyways, long story. How do I go about it?
[10:38] <bombard> hello world
[10:38] <agu10^> flintser: why not edit the default site?
[10:38] <dragonz> yeehaw, its 10.10.. i want to install few packages before i run a distro update for it
[10:39] <agu10^> sites-available/default ... that's what tutorials edit
[10:39] <flintser> agu10^: you can do that too but then you have no default page if you want to restart
[10:39] <k1l_> !eol | dragonz
[10:39] <ankr> Hey guys. I recently installed 12.04 on an a Asus laptop. And suddenly I realize that apparently it is constantly downloading 10MB/sec for reasons I don't know. Is that expected behavior - and why is it doing it?
[10:39] <yeehaw> dragonz: Support of Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat 10.10 was officially dropped on 10 April 2012.
[10:39] <dragonz> ouch
[10:40] <dragonz> so how can i install openssh-server to be able to run the distro update
[10:40] <flintser> agu10^: i mean that it is the default conf you sshould at least copy it some where else to safety in case you want default config back
[10:40] <zetheroo> trying to install ubuntu server 12.04 here and it's failing at Select and Install Software
[10:40] <khatri> awestroke: do I have to install OpenSSH ?
[10:40] <awestroke> dragonz: what kind of access do you have to this server?
[10:40] <k1l_> dragonz: ssh should be installed if its an server install already
[10:40] <zetheroo> it gets to trying to load tasksel and then fails
[10:41] <awestroke> khatri: context please, what are you talking about
[10:41] <dragonz> awestroke, VMware Player ..
[10:41] <k1l_> dragonz: for everything else see the message from the bot. it explains your possible chances
[10:41] <raphaelle> hello @all, can someone tell me what to do with this ? "linux-headers-generic
[10:41] <raphaelle> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[10:41] <MarKsaitis> how do I do dpkg --force-conflicts ? If my package is in one of apt-get repos?
[10:41] <MarKsaitis> help ;]
[10:41] <awestroke> dragonz: ah. well put your /etc/apt/sources.list on a gist
[10:41] <arunkumar413> how to save the image without square border in inkscape
[10:41] <khatri> awestroke: I want to connect from my home laptop (Ubuntu) to office PC (ubuntu) via ssh -X user@host\
[10:42] <dragonz> awestroke, what does that mean? =)
[10:42] <dragonz> on a gist?
[10:42] <khatri> but it says CONNECTION REFUSED and something port 22 bla bla
[10:42] <flintser> khatri: are you sure that sshd_config is properly setup? and firewall is not blocking connections?
[10:43] <awestroke> dragonz: in terminal, do "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and then select the output, copy it with ctrl+shift+c, and paste it in a new gist on gist.github.com, the paste the URL here
[10:43] <agu10^> why can't i edit "/etc/apache2/sites-available/default" E212: Can't open file for writing ???
[10:43] <awestroke> agu10^: no permissions, use sudo
[10:43] <flintser> agu10^: you need to sudo
[10:43] <sburjan> Hello. How can I delete a stuck item in my Unity Taskbar ?
[10:43] <khatri> flintser: i don't know sshd_config and firewall stuffs !
[10:43] <awestroke> sburjan: which item?
[10:44] <sburjan> awestroke: From an application I've uninstalled.. called Remmina
[10:44] <awestroke> khatri: are you connecting to the office external IP?
[10:44] <awestroke> sburjan: what happens then you right click the icon?
[10:44] <flintser> khatri: if your office pc is at work, it is a high chance that theyre blocking port 22. you can try ssh 127.0.0.1 at the machine you are trying to connect to
[10:44] <sburjan> awestroke: and I don't have a Unlock from Launcher option
[10:45] <yeehaw> sburjan: Reinstall remmina and delete it maybe?
[10:45] <agu10^> thanks!!
[10:45] <sburjan> awestroke: nothing happens
[10:45] <awestroke> sburjan: what happens when you drag the icon off the taskbar
[10:46] <sburjan> awestroke: it returns back on the taskbar
[10:46] <awestroke> ah nvm that never works
[10:46] <wolfbyte> I believe that if Rhythmbox had some pre-loaded internet radio stations, it would make for a good first time user experience...
[10:47] <awestroke> sburjan: did you log out and log in again? tried restarting?
[10:47] <sburjan> awestroke: no, let me try now. brb
[10:48] <jakey1> from the terminal how do you get to the native desktop viwer?
[10:48] <flintser> jakey1: what do you mean? if you did ctrl+alt+f1 you can go back with ctrl+alt+f7
[10:49] <jakey1> from the terminal how do you get to the native remote viwer on ubuntu
[10:49] <sburjan> awestroke: ok, it worked, thanks
[10:50] <jakey1> I use nautilus but I want to see the entire desktop
[10:50] <jakey1> like a remote vewer
[10:50] <jakey1> I did ask this question before but didnt get the answer
[10:50] <jakey1> didnt understand
[10:51] <awestroke> what do you mean more specifically?
[10:51] <yeehaw> jakey1: Do you mean how to connect from the terminal of one pc to the desktop of another pc?
[10:51] <awestroke> do you mean like "xdg-open ." ?
[10:51] <flintser> i don't get what you're trying to do jakey1, sorry :( nautilus is file manager i don't get how you couldnt go to desktop from it or how it relates to terminal
[10:51] <jakey1> yeehaw, yes
[10:51] <yeehaw> !vnc | jakey1
[10:52] <BlackDalek> does anyone here know anything about encoding video files for DVD? I have matroska mkv files I want to convert to vob files for DVD
[10:52] <awestroke> yeehaw: doesn't openssh support x forwarding though=
[10:52] <awestroke> ?
[10:52] <yeehaw> awestroke: That's also true, do we have a ubottu thing for that?
[10:52] <awestroke> no idea
[10:53] <yeehaw> jakey1: Look into this: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12755/how-to-forward-x-over-ssh-from-ubuntu-machine
[10:53] <syntroPi> ssh -Y
[10:53] <jakey1> yeehaw, im not sure how to install it. There is a native remote desktop viewer preinstalled  on ubuntu 12.04
[10:53] <jakey1> ?
[10:53] <arunkumar413> how to save the image without square border in inkscape
[10:53] <awestroke> arunkumar413: google it. very unrelated to #ubuntu
[10:53] <yeehaw> jakey1: Ehm, what do you mean?
[10:54] <awestroke> jakey1: try ssh x forwarding
[10:54] <awestroke> as yeehaw linked
[10:54] <syntroPi> arunkumar413, maybe you meant document settings from file menu?
[10:54] <jakey1> Well I the X11 is working so for example I can view gedit remotley through the terminal
[10:55] <jakey1> I want to view virtual box with a vm on it
[10:55] <Meme> Hi, could anybody point me in the right direction on getting a separate USB numeric keypad to work under 12.10? Works fine and out-of-the-box under Windows, but Ubuntu seems to get confused, switching between number and cursor mode on every keystroke.
[10:55] <jakey1> I just did it
[10:55] <jakey1> It is reallly slow to load up cirtual box through x11
[10:55] <jakey1> virtual
[10:56] <dr_willis> BlackDalek:  i use DeVeDe for making DVD video ISO images i can burn to dvd
[10:57] <ankr> Hey guys. Have anyone ever experienced that ubuntu goes crazy downloading? I don't what or where it's downloading from, I can just see that it is constantly downloading 10MB/sec. It's 12.04 LTS recently installed.
[10:57] <ankr> I've tried different network monitoring tools, but I'm unsure what to look for.
[10:57] <ankr> Although I can see that there's definetly something going on.
[10:58] <aymen> hello
[10:58] <yeehaw> ankr: Are you installing updates perhaps or have a torrent client running?
[10:58] <UbuntuUser> hello people
[10:59] <UbuntuUser> Question. Is it.possible to install Ubuntu Desktop on Android using a third party app?
[11:00] <Meme> ankr: Open a terminal and list all network connections using "ss -p".
[11:00] <dr_willis> UbuntuUser:  theres those Ubuntu In a vm/chroot thing in the android marketplaces
[11:00] <dr_willis> those run on top of android.
[11:00] <jakey1> why is it so slow
[11:00] <jakey1> on x11
[11:00] <jakey1> ?
[11:01] <k1l_> UbuntuUser: for most devices there are chroot installs. but first: that is not like a real install and second: that is not supported in here
[11:02] <UbuntuUser> I want to run Ubuntu via external HD. Then run the WINDOWS INSTALLer which will install on the EHD. How do I do it?
[11:02] <agu10^> http://54.235.108.222/test.py mod_python is not working! WTF
[11:03] <agu10^> how do i make mod_python work at all?
[11:03] <dr_willis> UbuntuUser:  you mean run the Ubuntu Windows Installer (Wubi?)
[11:03] <ankr> Meme, "ss -p" shows nothing that shouldn't be there. Except I don't know what these two are "gvfsd-http" & "ubuntu-geoip-pr".
[11:03] <Guest71565> I could really use some help moving and installing XAMPP in /opt/
[11:03] <ankr> yeehaw, I have no torrent client, and as far as I know I'm not downloading anything.
[11:04] <ankr> yeehaw, I haven't been notified about any updates for ubuntu.
[11:04] <dr_willis> !xampp
[11:04] <Fels> anyone here knwo why when I use import QtWebKit 3.0  then a webview component I get module "QtWebKit" is not installed
[11:04] <Fels>  error
[11:04] <k1l_> Guest71565: why not installing the packages that ship with ubuntu?
[11:04] <UbuntuUser> <j
[11:05] <k1l_> !rootirc > Guest71565
[11:05] <Guest71565> clear
[11:05] <Guest71565> quit
 yeah. I am referring to WUBI
[11:05] <k1l_> UbuntuUser: that doesnt work with your android device
[11:06] <dr_willis> UbuntuUser:  best advice for wubi... stay away from it.. and no idea what this has to do with android
[11:06] <yeehaw> ankr: Could you do 'top -n 1 | pastebinit' ?
 noted. thanks.
[11:07] <syntroPi> agu10^, have you ever tried to "curl -i http://54.235.108.222/test.py" ? its delivered as "Content-Type: text/x-python" by your Apache (mimetype) directly so it seems it wont invoke pyhton interpreter at all
[11:07] <arunkumar413> i created an svg image with inkscape and it created with a border frame. how to delete that
[11:08] <dr_willis> sure its not your image viewer thts just showing a frame?
[11:08] <syntroPi> arunkumar413, have you read my suggestion?
[11:08] <ankr> yeehaw, http://pastebin.com/D23TKLqb
[11:10] <UbuntuUser> All I wish for Ubuntu is to run Windows progams without Wine. Somewhere in the future.
[11:10] <yeehaw> ankr: That does not help :p, you could try something as nethogs to identify it
[11:11] <kumpa> d
[11:11] <kumpa> #odforce
[11:12] <Ben64> UbuntuUser: thats literally impossible
[11:13] <grizzay> Hey
[11:14] <agu10^> where can i find help with apache???
[11:15] <dr_willis> #apache   perhaps
[11:16] <ankr> yeehaw, hmm I just pulled the wired connection and let it run on wireless instead... Traffic imediately dropped and seems to stay down.
[11:16] <syntroPi> agu10^, #httpd
[11:17] <joshu> I still can't get my Huawei E3276 modem working with ubuntu 12.04. If anyone can help me implement what's in this launchpad link https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/211095
[11:17] <hatake> what answer ? What is the third word in the following list? elm odd not fruit drift snow heavy mindful
[11:17] <agu10^> syntroPi: thanks
[11:17] <DJones> hatake: Thats not an Ubuntu support question
[11:18] <Xetius> arunkumar413, if it really has a border, and it's not the image viewer adding it, then either remove it with inkscape or use something like imagemagick to crop the image by the width of the border
[11:19] <tziOm> Is there a ubuntu dev channel or something like it?
[11:19] <ankr> yeehaw, putted the wired connection back in and traffic spikes again..
[11:19] <ankr> it's weird.
[11:21] <hatake> DJones, this What is the second word in the following list? tin six lid ninety zero hour final color?
[11:21] <hatake> what answer ?
[11:21] <DJones> hatake: This is Ubuntu support only
[11:21] <k1l_> tziOm: #ubuntu-dev but im not sure if its the channel you want
[11:21] <DanV> hello
[11:22] <tziOm> k1l_, noone there
[11:22] <luc4> Hi! I'm trying to install ubuntu on a netbook but when trying to boot from the usb pen driver I get that the bios image is completely screwed and nothing starts. Do you know a possible reason? Now I'm trying to install with wubi from Windows. Am I doing the correct thing?
[11:22] <hatake> forumubuntu DJones Random Question (to ensure you are a human and not a spambot)
[11:22] <hatake> What is the second word in the following list? tin six lid ninety zero hour final color
[11:22] <tziOm> I have a kernel on 12.10 crash on me, and want to repoetr
[11:22] <hatake> so ?
[11:22] <k1l_> hatake: stop that. keep this channel clear for support
[11:23] <dr_willis> luc4:  whats saying 'bios image is screwed?'
[11:24] <luc4> dr_willis: the image on the screen at the beginning of the boot procedure is completely screwed.
[11:24] <dr_willis> luc4:  a wubi install -  installs from within windows.. you boot the usb/flash to do a full/normal install.
[11:24] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[11:24] <dr_willis> thats not a bios image.. thats the pymouth splash screen i imagine.
[11:25] <k1l_> tziOm: #ubuntu-devel but read the topic when joining there
[11:25] <luc4> dr_willis: I don't get to that screen.
[11:25] <dr_willis> luc4:  so you did a wubi install? or a normal install?
[11:26] <luc4> dr_willis: I'm currently tryint wubi, it has not finished yet. Just asking why that was happening... maybe something known.
[11:26] <dr_willis> plymouth has issues with some video cards/chipsets
[11:28] <DanV> I have a 2.5TB hdd - WDC WD25EZRX-00MMMB0  . If I hdparm -I the hdd, I get "device size with M = 1024*1024:     2384658 MBytes"  and "device size with M = 1000*1000:     2500495 MBytes (2500 GB)".  Fdisk lists it as 2199.0 GB .  After partitioning, if I do a "df" , I get" 2113787792 1K-blocks". Is my computer seeing the hdd properly ? I can write/read normally, but I seem to have lost 500GB from the disk size. df -h shows 2.0TB. output
[11:29] <mvt007geek> i want to call an encryption function from kernel into a file system.but i don't know which encrypt function/functions i should call? i have been heard about dm-crypt but i found it only in documentations (in lxr site.)
[11:31] <thiefy`> how would i go about changing my password for the login to the OS to a four character password? the normal "user accounts" thingy won't let me.
[11:31] <amgarching> I dont find python-petsc4py package anymore. It is installed on one of my 12.04 LTS machines. I do not remembere where I got it. It definitely did exist http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/python/python-petsc4py   Any idea?
[11:31] <thiefy`> this is just a lil netbook that doesn't need security. no one will get their sneaky paws on it so i want it to be a lil short password.
[11:31] <agu10^> when i'm typing cd something/other/ how can i know what directories exist WITHOUT having to type another command?
[11:31] <kewel> hi I'm running lubuntu .. is there a cool little memory meter that will sit down in my tray?
[11:32] <dr_willis> thiefy`:  sudo passwd username
[11:32] <agu10^> kind of a better autocomplete that lists more directories?
[11:32] <gry1> kewel: try asking #lubuntu or #lxde
[11:32] <kewel> =)
[11:32] <jrib> agu10^: tap tab twice
[11:32] <flintser> amgarching: add the proper repository?
[11:32] <k1l_> agu10^: ls ?
[11:32] <thiefy`> thanks dr_willis  looks like that worked.
[11:33]  * thiefy` throws dr_willis a big cookie!
[11:33]  * dr_willis sets thiefy` 's password to be 'password'
[11:33] <agu10^> k1l_: ls is another command
[11:33] <amgarching> flintser: the URL quotes universe. Universe is on by default.
[11:33] <thiefy`> kewel,  yeah, they call them docks or something like that. just do a google search for xfce docks
[11:34] <dr_willis> !dock
[11:34] <flintser> amgarching: http://ubuntu.mirror.cambrium.nl/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/petsc4py/
[11:34] <flintser> amgarching: at least this has it deb http://ubuntu.mirror.cambrium.nl/ubuntu/ oneiric main universe
[11:34] <k1l_> agu10^: i don get what you want
[11:34] <thiefy`> he doesn't want a dock doctor. he wants a lil icon to show his memory.
[11:34] <kewel> thiefy`: muchos gracias
[11:35] <gry1> agu10^: press tab twice
[11:35] <flintser> agu10^: ls -la
[11:35] <simmerz> is there a sensible resolution to empathy continually telling me my accounts need to be authorised, even though they have been and it not giving me a mechanism to reauth?
[11:35] <agu10^> gry1, jrib: thanks!!
[11:35] <gry1> :-)
[11:38] <thiefy`> i'm lovin this cairo dock. gets rid of the sadness of unity and just have one lil dock. yay.
[11:38] <flintser> amgarching: did it help? that repo is for oneiric but it is there... maybe even the right version :)
[11:38] <dr_willis> bah - run about 5 differnt docks..
[11:39] <anew> /etc/default/grub where can i find this ?
[11:39] <anew> i'm in cli
[11:39] <anew> but where is this folder ?
[11:39] <dawkirst> hi there, what's the best way to regulate the fans in my PC in Ubuntu? Is there a single package that can do this for me?
[11:39] <dr_willis> anew:  you gave the full path to it... its in    /etc/default/grub
[11:39] <dr_willis> anew:    ls -l /etc/default/grub
[11:40] <k1l_> anew: you already mentioned the folder
[11:40] <anew> hmmm sorry i am very new ....
[11:40] <anew> when i ls
[11:40] <anew> i dont see /etc/
[11:40] <anew> i am in root $ (i think)
[11:40] <anew> i just booted ubuntu
[11:40] <anew> and went straght to cli
[11:40] <dr_willis> anew:  whats the EXACT command you are using?
[11:41] <anew> well first from root i type ls
[11:41] <anew> and see
[11:41] <anew> desktop, downloads, music, public, videos, documents, pictures, templates
[11:41] <amgarching> flintser: thanks. I manually downloaded *.deb in dpkg -installed it. The "import petsc4py" fails still. Will investigate. Not sure why there is no package for precise.
[11:41] <dr_willis> so thats your users home directory... notice the prompt  has a '~' in it?
[11:41] <anew> yes i see that in the prompt
[11:41] <syntroPi> anew "nano /etc/default/grub"
[11:41] <dr_willis> anew:  and the command 'ls -l /etc/default/grub'  gives what?
[11:42] <mvt007geek> i want to call an encryption function from kernel into a file system.but i don't know which encrypt function/functions i should call? i have been heard about dm-crypt but i found it only in documentations (in lxr site.)
[11:42] <flintser> anew: it defaults to home directory. go "cd /" to root directory
[11:42] <anew> ah yes
[11:42] <anew> flintser
[11:42] <dr_willis> if you give the full path to the file. it dosent matter where you are at.
[11:42] <anew> there it is
[11:42] <dragonz> so guys, i just ran an upgrade on my ubuntu server, do the files used to upgrade get deleted automatically?
[11:42] <dragonz> or do i need to clean some stuff
[11:43] <anew> :D
[11:43] <anew> thanks everyone
[11:43] <DanV> Seems my problem was related to MBR formatting instead of GPT. Thanks ! Have a great day !
[11:43] <nearst> :)
[11:43] <dr_willis> if this path stuff is confuseing. you may want to read up on bash fundamentals. ;)
[11:43] <anew> yes i want to read all that, but want to set up the machine first
[11:43] <anew> i'm trying to boot straight to cli
[11:43] <anew> should i be using ubuntu or debian ?
[11:44] <dr_willis> anew:  you tell us. ;) we dont know your needs.
[11:44] <nearst> both not much diff
[11:44] <DJones> !text | anew
[11:44] <anew> ok well i use virtualbox
[11:44] <flintser> debian has the setting to install without GUI, also ubuntu server defaults wihtout it.
[11:44] <nearst> !terminal
[11:44] <flintser> just saying :)
[11:44] <anew> and just would like to mostly for now learn how to use it
[11:45] <flintser> anew: you might just want to stick with *buntu. for first time users no gui can be a rocky path
[11:46] <jakey1> how do I ping an ip adress at a specific port
[11:46] <amgarching> flintser: ok. Seems to work. The failed import was an older error message. I wonder how I installed it on my previous "precise"...
[11:46] <anew> crash and burn baby
[11:46] <vedic> When I login to my server, I see a msg: You have new mail
[11:46] <thiefy`> you've got mail!
[11:46] <dr_willis> so read it. ;)
[11:46] <thiefy`> you've got mail!
[11:46] <thiefy`> yaaaay!
[11:46] <FloodBot1> thiefy`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:46] <amgarching> is oneric newer or older than precise?
[11:46] <vedic> How can I stop it? and how to find which program is sending mail? I don't have sendmail
[11:46] <k1l_> vedic: type "mail"
[11:47] <thiefy`> your sendmail technique no good.
[11:47] <dr_willis> cron most likely sent you a message telling you it loves you.. and wants to sell you some viagra. ;P
[11:47] <jakey1> anyone
[11:47] <flintser> amgarching: maybe it was on some other repo you added or in the installation media :) dunno but good that you found what you needed
[11:48] <dr_willis> jakey1:  check 'man ping' perhaps? ive never seen ping take a port argument
[11:48] <flintser> oneiric is 11.10, precise is 12.04
[11:48] <nearst> unless grab port banner, yes. ping usually on host.
[11:48] <OerHeks> amgarching, older, O oneiric P precise  Q quantal R raring
[11:49] <dhanu> >
[11:49] <thiefy`> If you want to check if you can access a certain port on a remote machine then telnet is always a safe bet since it's built in to almost all operating systems.
[11:49] <amgarching> thanks!
[11:49] <vedic> k1l_: Why I am getting these mail? I see there are lot of emails from psad
[11:49] <dhanu> ?
[11:49] <thiefy`> or maybe a portscanner.
[11:49] <thiefy`> ^ for jakey1
[11:49] <k1l_> vedic: read the messages.
[11:49] <vedic> k1l_: psad-alert
[11:49] <k1l_> vedic: it says who is sending it and why
[11:49] <jakey1> thiefy`, thanls
[11:50] <vedic> k1l_: how can I configure it to send to my email id instead of root@user.com
[11:50] <nearst> that require mta to configure
[11:50] <flintser> vedic: no one has sent you mail to root@user.com its just default
[11:51] <vedic> flintser: ok, I think psad is sending the alert information. Can it be configured to send to my email id?
[11:51] <flintser> vedic: dunno, i have never done that
[11:51] <jakey1> is the inet addres the ip adress in ifconfig?
[11:52] <nearst> vedic, usually not too important unless ure in production server
[11:52] <vedic> nearst: its production server.
[11:52] <thiefy`> jakey yes. what else would it be?
[11:53] <thiefy`> ure?
[11:53] <thiefy`> did you just make up a word?
[11:54] <thiefy`> are you allowed to do that?
[11:54] <thiefy`> !rules
[11:54] <yeehaw> ankr: Did you try the tool?
[11:54] <nearst> vedic, http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Configure-the-server/Install-ssmtp.html
[11:54] <wiggmpk> So I am trying to create a launcher for minecraft, I made a script to use the proper Java version. If I run the script in a terminal it works fine.. I created a symbolic link to the script in /usr/bin (and if I run "minecraft" from the terminal it works fine) but in my minecraft.desktop file, when it runs the symbolic link from /usr/bin it errors with could not find or load main class.. What is the difference here? It should be running
[11:55] <ankr> yeehaw, nethogs?
[11:55] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: As what user do you run the file on the terminal and with what user on desktop
[11:55] <yeehaw> ankr: yes
[11:56] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: my user, IE not with sudo
[11:56] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: Can you post your .desktop file contents to pastebuntu?
[11:56] <ankr> yeehaw, I tried but I was only able to monitor wlan0 with it, couldn't get it to work with eth00
[11:57] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: yup, gimme a sec
[11:57] <yeehaw> ankr: Even when using 'sudo nethogs eth0'
[11:57] <zetheroo> what is the command to find a directory ?
[11:57] <yeehaw> ankr: ?
[11:57] <jakey1> I have a vm of a server and I want to ssh into it, I have the ip address and pinged it an its ok but when I try to ssh into it it doesnt work?
[11:58] <dr_willis> wiggmpk:  have your script cd to the proper directory of the game. it may need to be started from the games directory.
[11:58] <nearst> sudo service sshd restart
[11:58] <anew> man this is goind to sound idiotic, but when i type, delete and insert act completely screwy and letters appear
[11:58] <yeehaw> jakey1: Did you install and start openssh server?
[11:58] <jakey1> yep
[11:58] <jakey1> I have it as port forwaded to 1056
[11:59] <yeehaw> jakey1: On the VM, what does 'ps auxf | grep ssh' give you?
[11:59] <dr_willis> zetheroo:  'find' or 'locate' to search for things
[11:59] <wiggmpk> dr_willis: ill try that real quick
[11:59] <nearst> ssh ip:port
[12:00] <jakey1> yeehaw, what do you want to know
[12:01] <ankr> yeehaw, "ioctl failed while establishing local IP for selected device eth0. You may specify the device on the command line."
[12:01] <jakey1> I cant coppy and past it because I run through x11
[12:01] <wiggmpk> dr_willis: your a life saver =P thanks mate that did the trick
[12:01] <yeehaw> ankr: If you do ifconfig, which ethernet adapter has your ip?
[12:01] <kewel> docky uses too much ram. =( sorry for the wrong chan.  noone's in #lubuntu
[12:01] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: had to edit the script to cd to the game directory =) dr_willis is the man =P
[12:01] <kewel> oh well
[12:01] <yeehaw> jakey1: If the ssh server is really running
[12:02] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: Nice :-)
[12:02] <kewel> sup peeps
[12:03] <ankr> yeehaw, I should maybe mention that I have multiple virtual machines running?
[12:04] <ankr> yeehaw, wlan0 is the only one with a 192.168... IP. eth0 only has a IPV6 address.
[12:05] <Adeeb> Where can can I get with installing FreeBSD, I'm unable to join the channel "##freebsd"?
[12:05] <yeehaw> ankr: So for your internet connectivity for ipv4 adresses you are connected via wlan, correct? And that one is not causing the traffic, correct? What do your vms do that involve ipv6?
[12:06] <ankr> yeehaw, Yes that sounds about right. VMS shouldn't do anything with ipv6, although one of them is functioning as dns server.
[12:07] <yeehaw> ankr: Is it production? Else I would shutdown your vm's one by one and check which one is causing the traffic. After that, you can try running nethogs on the VM that is causing the traffic and you'll maybe have an answer
[12:07] <marchdown> hello.
[12:07] <marchdown> Does anyone know what system component catches keyboard-layout-switching key combo?
[12:09] <ankr> yeehaw, that sounds like decent debugging - I will try to investigate that! thanks alot for your time, unfortunately I don't have more time before after hours.
[12:09] <jakey1> is it pastebin for images
[12:09] <DJones> !paste | jakey1
[12:09] <yeehaw> ankr: I'll be online here, sent me a pm if you have fixed it and I'm unresponsive :-)
[12:09] <ankr> yeehaw, I will do that! :) thanks again
[12:10] <jakey1> DJones, for pics
[12:10] <TomyLaptop> does libboost1.xy-dbg contain the debug symbols for all the libboost-*1.xy.z packages?
[12:10] <DJones> jakey1: It tells you in ubottu's info
[12:10] <raddy_> Hello Everybody
[12:11] <raddy_> I found wubi based ubuntu 12 to be very slow in my system, especially app loading
[12:11] <jakey1> yeehaw, imagebin.org/246390
[12:11] <raddy_> are there any work arounds
[12:11] <k1l_> raddy_: dont use wubi
[12:12] <k1l_> raddy_: go for a native install on own partitions.
[12:12] <DJones> raddy_: A wubi install will always be slower than a native install
[12:12] <raddy_> K11: thats all known advise.
[12:12] <yeehaw> jakey1: Ok, so the VM that the server is running on, can you connect to ssh via another computter on the same LAN?
[12:13] <raddy_> Djones : already known, please don't give such boring advises, i am not a noob
[12:14] <jakey1> yeehaw, nope
[12:15] <yeehaw> !rules | raddy_
[12:15] <raddy_> many have told the speed difference is negligable
[12:15] <jakey1> yeehaw
[12:15] <wdp> i'm having a weird problem with ubuntu and lightdm.
[12:15] <yeehaw> jakey1: Local firewall? Can you connect locally on the vm itself?
[12:15] <jakey1> yeehaw, I can connect to the host from another computer but not the vm server
[12:15] <wdp> I'm trying to make xfce the default session. I changed user-session in lightdm.conf to xfce. It doesn't care.
[12:15] <k1l_> raddy_: wubi installs the ubuntu into a container in the ntfs partition.
[12:15] <raddy_> But i am seeing huge slowness
[12:16] <yeehaw> jakey1: That does not make sense, you are trying to connect to the vm rihgt?
[12:16] <wdp> I removed the .dmrc which contains =ubuntu - It recreates that file and enters =ubuntu. I changed =ubuntu to =xfce. It changes on next reboot.
[12:16] <jakey1> yes
[12:16] <k1l_> raddy_: we are not responsible for anyone saying to you that its not slower and better than a real install. :/
[12:16] <raddy_> K11: i know how wubi works
[12:16] <wdp> I tried lightdm-set-defaults -s xfce - no change.
[12:16] <k1l_> raddy_: sorry, but if you know everything and dont like the answers why are you asking?
[12:17] <wdp> Apart from praying, anyone any idea what i could do? :)
[12:17] <jakey1> yeehaw, from machine 1 to machine 2 works. From machine 1 to machine 2's vm server does not work
[12:17] <raddy_> k11 : please read my comment correctly, nobody said it is better, but nobody said it is worse either
[12:17] <yeehaw> jakey1: Aah, how did you configure the VM's networking? Is it bridged?
[12:17] <yeehaw> jakey1: Or natted
[12:17] <jakey1> NAT
[12:17] <raddy_> I am looking for any tweeks to speed up a wubi install.
[12:18] <deitario1> I just discovered Remastersys and it reminded me that I wanted to create a streamlined LiveCD/DVD and reinstall disc but it has too many limitations (nVidia binary drivers hard-disabled by Ubuntu's casper script, no option to choose text-mode installer, must use KDM or GDM, etc.)
[12:18] <yeehaw> jakey1: Change it to bridged and retest
[12:18] <ra7v> Ubuntu 12.04 wont start after manual restart... please help
[12:18] <raddy_> Application start up is the main issue
[12:18] <deitario1> Can anyone point me to a guide on how to do it manually enough to intervene and forcibly bypass these limitations?
[12:19] <anew> sudo vi /etc/default/grub when i run this and try to edit the file i am not even able to type?
[12:19] <anew> i have no idea...
[12:19] <anew> i hit delete/insert
[12:19] <jakey1> yeehaw, ssh: Could not resolve hostname foo: Name or service not known
[12:19] <anew> and instead i get letters and numbers ?
[12:19] <ra7v> Ubuntu 12.04 wont start after manual restart... please help
[12:19] <yeehaw> jakey1: connect on ip
[12:21] <vedic> I have about 500 emails sent by psad alert. How to bundle it and clean the mail logs? I am no longer running psad
[12:21] <dr_willis> use the mail command and delete the messages
[12:22] <jakey1> yeehaw
[12:22] <rking> I work on a project that uses 10.4 as its production platform. I want to develop on the same system, but I also want some tools (like vim, tmux, etc) to be at bleeding edge versions. Am I best installing from their repos or is there a good backports system or something?
[12:22] <jakey1> yeehaw, its timing out
[12:22] <dr_willis> !10.04
[12:22] <yeehaw> jakey1: on LAN?
[12:23] <rking> dr_willis: (?)
[12:23] <dr_willis> backports, ppa's or source  -
[12:23] <luc4> Hi! I'm installing ubuntu and I got that it is impossible to install the bootloader in the specified location. Is there anything I can do to understand why?
[12:23] <dr_willis> would be the general order of perferance i imagine.
[12:23] <jakey1> yeehaw, I dont have lan only wireless
[12:24] <ra7v> ?
[12:24] <yeehaw> jakey1: LAN is local area network and it's your home network. Are you trying to ssh from in you local network?
[12:24] <jakey1> yes
[12:25] <jakey1> yeehaw, there is a special ip adress for the virtual box wm's when you do ifconfig
[12:25] <jakey1> on the host machine
[12:26] <Kimmono> !8.04
[12:26] <luc4> Can I use any partition for installing the bootloader?
[12:26] <ra7v> not much help here :(
[12:27] <dr_willis> luc4:  normally grub goes on the MBR of the HD you are booting for a normalinstall
[12:27] <Physicist> Why I guess that the Unity 2D is so much beautifull than 3D?
[12:27] <dr_willis> ra7v:  clarify what 'wont start' means
[12:27] <anew> does vi act differently than nano ?
[12:27] <Physicist> I really think so!
[12:27] <dr_willis> anew:  vi is a totally differnt text editor.. so yes..
[12:27] <ra7v> I've been using Ubuntu 12.04 with no problems for the past 2 months. A few hours ago, when i restarted my PC, it just hang with black screen for more than 10 minutes. So I did a hard reset by pressing the power button for a few seconds. However, when I startup the PC, Ubuntu loads till the Ubuntu logo with 5 dots under it, then remains there forever. Tried several times with same result.
[12:27] <k1l_> ra7v: errormessages? i cant just guess what is not starting
[12:27] <luc4> dr_willis: I selected /dev/sda7 but it is failing to install. Can I get a hint on why it failed?
[12:28] <yeehaw> jakey1: Can you give me: 'ifconfig | pastebinit' from the host?
[12:28] <dr_willis> luc4:  normally you would put grub on /dev/sda  not sda7
[12:28] <ra7v> i tried Boot-Repair recommended repair, but it didnt solve the problem.
[12:28] <luc4> dr_willis: but won't that erase data on the disk?
[12:28] <dr_willis> ra7v:  you see the grub menu? try the recovery/rescue  options to look at the error mesages
[12:29] <dr_willis> luc4:  Grub goes on the MBR of the hard drive you are booting. thats how it works
[12:29] <dr_willis> the MBR is not the data on the disk
[12:29] <luc4> dr_willis: wikipedia will help understand :-) thanks
[12:29] <dr_willis> !grub
[12:30] <anew> dr_willis ok it's weird thanks
[12:30] <dr_willis> grub goes on the mbr of the disk.. not the mbr of a partion on the disk
[12:30] <ra7v> i dont see grub menu, it just gets stuck at that purple screen
[12:30] <dr_willis> except in some special cases
[12:30] <dr_willis> ra7v:  hold the shift key down when it boots.. to let you see the grub menu
[12:31] <Physicist> Unity 3D is annoying.
[12:31] <dr_willis> you may want to also try fscking the filesystems from a live cd.
[12:31] <luc4> dr_willis: thanks!
[12:31] <dr_willis> Physicist:  how vague.. as of 12.10 there is no unity2d
[12:31] <jakey1> yeehaw, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1639304/
[12:32] <yeehaw> jakey1: And your vm, what kind of ip does it have?
[12:32] <flintser> unity is what made me change from ubuntu to mint :/
[12:32] <Physicist> dr_willis: I know that. I'm in 12.04 now.
[12:32] <jakey1> yeehaw, How do you mean
[12:33] <flintser> is there any support channel for ubuntu phone yet :) cant wait to try it
[12:33] <yeehaw> jakey1: If you do the same command on the vm instead of the host
[12:33] <yeehaw> jakey1: What do you get?
[12:33] <dr_willis> !phone
[12:34] <ra7v> here's the url boot-repair gave me to ask for help. i'll try restarting now and see if i can get the grub menu to come up. paste.ubuntu.com/1639118/
[12:35] <ra7v> i'll be back in a bit, currently running ubuntu from usb, so need to restart
[12:35] <ra7v> thanks
[12:38] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys, How to find one particular process how many open files is there for that process. ?
[12:38] <vladino> :-D http://www.buzzfeed.com/mattbellassai/the-most-wtf-pictures-of-people-posing-with-animals
[12:38] <jakey1> yeehaw, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1639321/
[12:39] <DJones> vladino: WHat does that have to do with Ubuntu support?
[12:39] <vladino> for fun only, no support needed at this time by me. cheers
[12:39] <tziOm> How can I prevent ubunto (12.10) from loading radeon display drivers?
[12:40] <DJones> vladino: Don't post things like that in here, its a support channel only
[12:40] <ra7v> hi i'm back... oi'm on the recovery menu, which do i choose? resume, clean, dpkg, failsafex, fsck, grub, network, root, system-summary
[12:40] <luc4> dr_willis: now the installation seems to be fine, but when I try to boot I get that no boot disk is available. Can I fix this somehow from the USB live ubuntu?
[12:42] <yeehaw> jakey1: So the host has 10.0.2.15 and the vm 192.168.122.1 ? That's not gonna work
[12:42] <yeehaw> jakey1: create a bridged ip instead of nat and reboot the vm
[12:43] <Physicist> I need help. Some programs just does not open/start in my 12.04: Tweak, GParted, Compiz and more. And one package is with problem: ALSA. How fix it (ALSA) with -dpkg, and how can I fix the others programs problem?
[12:43] <ra7v> hi i'm back... i pressed shift when ubuntu was booting, then chose the recovery mode, then arrived to the recovery menu, which do i choose? resume, clean, dpkg, failsafex, fsck, grub, network, root, system-summary?
[12:44] <jakey1> yeehaw, ok but asit now I can connect to the internet via nat, when I put it on bridfged I could not?
[12:44] <Physicist> ra7v, for what?
[12:44] <yeehaw> jakey1: You have to specify a different ip then, one from your real network
[12:45] <jakey1> yeehaw, ok how do I do that
[12:46] <ra7v> Physicist , I've been using Ubuntu 12.04 with no problems for the past 2 months. A few hours ago, when i restarted my PC, it just hang with black screen for more than 10 minutes. So I did a hard reset by pressing the power button for a few seconds. However, when I startup the PC, Ubuntu loads till the Ubuntu logo with 5 dots under it, then remains there forever. Tried several times with same result.
[12:47] <ra7v> So i tried Boot-Repair recommended repair, but it didnt solve the problem. here's the url it gave to ask people for help.
[12:47] <ra7v> paste.ubuntu.com/1639118/
[12:47] <ra7v> someone said i should try recovery mode, but i dunno what to choose nect
[12:49] <ra7v> so i pressed shift when ubuntu was booting, then chose the recovery mode, then arrived to the recovery menu, which do i choose? resume, clean, dpkg, failsafex, fsck, grub, network, root, system-summary?
[12:51] <yeehaw> jakey1: Look online: https://blogs.oracle.com/fatbloke/entry/networking_in_virtualbox1
[12:53] <Physicist_> ra7v: Did you make any driver installation recently?
[12:54] <ra7v> nope, no driver installation
[12:55] <Physicist_> ohh.. I cannot help you. sorry!
[12:56] <ra7v> anyone?
[12:59] <anew> so if i have say 2 virtual machines each running ubuntu... .can i use different proxies on each one?
[12:59] <anew> or can my host machine only have one at a time ?
[13:00] <Umair> hi guys!
[13:03] <Umair> here's my question… can we create alias for folder names?
[13:03] <Umair> short alias
[13:05] <ra7v> ?
[13:06] <ra7v> so i pressed shift when ubuntu was booting, then chose the recovery mode, then arrived to the recovery menu, which do i choose? resume, clean, dpkg, failsafex, fsck, grub, network, root, system-summary?
[13:07] <jpds> ra7v: Well, which one do you want?
[13:09] <ra7v> jpds: i dunno, someone told me i should go into recovery mode to check for the error. ubuntu gets stuck at the purple screen with ubuntu logo ad 5 dots under it whenever i start it. this started happening after i did a hard reboot when it got stuck while restarting. i did a boot-repair but it did not help. paste.ubuntu.com/1639118/
[13:09] <Umair> I want to create "dev" alias for "Development" folder name. Can I do that?
[13:10] <ripthejacker> how to use drag and drop in nautilus
[13:10] <ripthejacker> ?
[13:10] <elemay2> hi guys, im trying to install a second network card for bonding on a vlan. the devices get bonded, but on boot there is no dhcp release. if i do service networking restart i get an dhcp lease. what do i wrong?
[13:11] <ripthejacker> i.e to drag from one window and drop to another window of nautilus
[13:11] <jakey1> yeehaw, I see your point, I not clear how to change vbox inet adress
[13:12] <yeehaw> jakey1: Log into it and edit /etc/network/interfaces ?
[13:12] <ripthejacker> i'm using quantal
[13:13] <jpmh> I have an lubuntu  system in which the nm-applet is putting up the message that the network is disconnected and then for some reason exiting - it tells me that there are networks available etc, also tells me I can select one using network menu - but exits so I can not connect - any ideas?
[13:13] <melkor> How do I check what my touchpad hardware is?
[13:14] <zetheroo> what is the latest version of Qemu for Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[13:17] <pitoow> nowadays, what is the best program i can install on ubuntu to download mp3's ?
[13:17] <yeehaw> pitoow: Spotify
[13:18] <yeehaw> pitoow: But it's more streaming
[13:18] <yeehaw> pitoow: And you need a premium account
[13:18] <xpati90x> ciao
[13:18] <yeehaw> !warez | pitoow
[13:19] <pitoow> yeehaw, hum... i
[13:19] <yeehaw> pitoow: Or did you mean legal mp3's?
[13:19] <ra7v> reinstalling... seems like no options left
[13:20] <pitoow> yeehaw,legal or not..
[13:20] <yeehaw> pitoow: Ubuntu one has a music store which you can use
[13:20] <yeehaw> pitoow: https://one.ubuntu.com/
[13:20] <nearst> hi ppl
[13:20] <eric_hungern> hello. i have a problem with themes. i have ubuntu 12.04 and when i try to use orta theme it is not set for the small windows but when i maximize the window theme works good
[13:20] <pitoow> yeehaw, I used to use frostwire
[13:21] <eric_hungern> theme problem is metacity problem or gtk problem??
[13:21] <yeehaw> pitoow: Piracy is not allowed
[13:23] <melkor> Why would avahi daemon be using 50% of my cpu?
[13:23] <zetheroo> what command will show me the running version of Ubuntu?
[13:23] <yeehaw> melkor: Where do you see that?
[13:23] <melkor> yeehaw: top
[13:24] <aguu> every time i try ubuntu again, i fall back to having to hack and mess with config files
[13:24] <aguu> instead on windows, everything runs! poorly but it mostly works
[13:24] <yeehaw> melkor: Could you do 'top -n 1 | pastebinit' and give me the link?
[13:24] <aguu> fixing is just reinstalling
[13:24] <jpmh> aguu: please be specific - what do you need o hack and mess with and why?
[13:25] <melkor> yeehaw: It was using 100%, I restarted the daemon and it was usng 50% for about a minute and now it is running ok.
[13:26] <aguu> jpmh: had to edit zone files for DNS setup... that sucks
[13:26] <melkor> So I could paste the top output but the daemon isn't there.
[13:26] <aguu> jpmh: had to look at named logs in order to even notice there was an error
[13:26] <jpmh> aguu: why did you need to edit them - what was not working?
[13:27] <yeehaw> melkor: If you see it running 100%, it is only one core/thread if you have a multi-core cpu probably. I have no idea why in your specific case it was misbehaving, do you see anything in the logs?
[13:27] <zetheroo> ok, having absolutely no luck finding out which version of Qemu is running here ... any takers?
[13:27] <jpmh> aguu: I run literally hindreds of linux systems and can not remember the last time I needed to edit a zone file unless I was doing something VERY strange
[13:27] <cvele> can anyone help me with MyPhoneExplorer installation? (ubuntu 12.04 x86_64) Thanx
[13:28] <yeehaw> aguu: Don't you mean resolv.conf ?
[13:29] <aguu> no
[13:29] <aguu> i am running a DNS server
[13:29] <aguu> on windows I get a nice UI
[13:29] <yeehaw> aguu: Lol, but you would have to edit zones in Windows too if you want to add or remove records
[13:29] <aguu> nope
[13:29] <jpmh> aguu: what dns server?  And is is serving other machines or just itself
[13:30] <aguu> not hacking text files at least.
[13:30] <aguu> it's going to serve others through the internet
[13:30] <yeehaw> aguu: What's the difference? The only difference as far as I'm concerned is that it's more work to edit in a gui
[13:31] <jpmh> aguu: 1) why are you running a DNS server and 2)  what do you need to set when running a server under ubuntu that you do not need to set using windoze, 3) is it the authoritive server for some zone(s)?
[13:31] <melkor> yeehaw: nothing strange in the logs for avahi there was a message 1 hour ago, I think when I rebooted.
[13:32] <jpmh> yeehaw: and aguu  I tend to dind when it is things like a zone file that it is MUCH safer and more powerful to use a decent editor that a gui
[13:33] <yeehaw> melkor: I don't know then
[13:34] <yeehaw> jpmh: agreed
[13:35] <jpmh> aguu: I would also add that typically anything that is in a text file and can be edited is MUCH easier to automate and backup etc
[13:36] <Peanut> Hi, is it still possible to run Ubuntu 12.04 without network-manager? I've got a cluster of 42 compute-servers to manage, and I would like to be able to stick to /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/network/interface. In 10.04, I just made sure network-manager never got installed, but with 12.04 I get the dreaded 'waiting another 60 seconds for network configuration' on boot, even though the network is configured just fine.
[13:36] <jpmh> aguu: I am by no means a windoze expert but it is interesting to note that Microsoft use unix to run their dns servers, not windoze
[13:38] <yeehaw> Peanut: I'm assuming you use desktop? On server we mostly remove resolvconf and do excactly what you just said
[13:39] <melkor> When I run a program with alt-f2 is there a way to get terminal type output, because the program doesn't run and I'm not sure why. It starts up and I see a splash screen though. Also it will run from the cmd line.
[13:39] <aguu> jpmh: i don't need to automatize. i just wanted a simple UI to edit my DNS ... on windows it worked fine
[13:39] <albroz> hello, have any of you lost any files just like puffffff
[13:39] <albroz> ?
[13:40] <jrib> melkor: try ~/.xsession-errors
[13:41] <jpmh> aguu: how much simpler can it be than to add a couple of lines to a zone file?  What does a gui do for you in a case like this, surely you need to add the entries and what else is there?
[13:41] <k1l_> albroz: is there a support issue behind that question?
[13:42] <jpmh> aguu: what file(s) are you needing to edit and what zone entries are you needing to edit
[13:43] <albroz> hmmm .... no error msg or nothing, had files in the /var/www and now they are gone, the index still exist, the folders still exist ... all in them is gone :( and scalpel found none :(
[13:43] <yeehaw> aguu: And off course you know enough about DNS to not have to use a Wizard I hope
[13:43] <albroz> happened twice
[13:43] <yeehaw> aguu: Then you should'nt be running a DNS server at all
[13:43] <albroz> once while running from an SD card, the other from the hdd ....
[13:43] <yeehaw> aguu: s/Then/Else/
[13:44] <melkor> jrib: some window manager error, strange. Glad it works from the terminal at least.
[13:45] <jrib> melkor: what is it?  Do you want to pastebin?
[13:45] <jpmh> yeehaw: TY for saying that - I was sort of wanting to say it - also sort of smelling a troll - but I 100% agree with you - if you don't understand DNS well enough that a quick edit using vi/emacs or whatever  is so simple you really should not run it - Actually even as owner of 6242 domains we do not run our own servers - it makes little sense
[13:46] <jpmh> aguu: realistically why are you running your own authorititive servers - it is always a risk since you really should have two at largely separate locations
[13:46] <yeehaw> jpmh: :-)
[13:47] <albroz> hmm NM, perms hingy went crazy, fixed ...
[13:47] <albroz> thanks and out
[13:48] <jpmh> aguu: you also gave the impression that there were MANY things - is there anything else or is it just that you prefer a GUI for setting up zone files?  And, btw, there probably is a gui for it if you look
[13:48] <yeehaw> jpmh: gedit or something ;-)
[13:48] <zetheroo> is there any way I can install Qemu 1.2.0 from the quantal repos onto a precise machine?
[13:49] <jpmh> yeehaw: ty for that laugh - yes - I guess gedit is a GUI for text files - never thought of it that way before, :)
[13:50] <jpmh> zetheroo: I would suggest against it generally - it has been my experience that back-porting things that are as complex as qemu is probably not the greatest - what's wrong with the older one?
[13:51] <ripthejacker> how can i achieve drag and drop on ubuntu using nautilus?
[13:51] <ripthejacker> i'm using quantal
[13:51] <zetheroo> jpmh: we have been trying to get a backup script working .. but we need to test it on a newer version of Qemu than 1.1.2
[13:51] <jrib> ripthejacker: it does that by default.  What are you trying to do exactly?
[13:51] <ripthejacker> sorry  my question made no sense
[13:52] <ripthejacker> i want to copy folder/file from one window to another
[13:52] <ripthejacker> jrib, so where do i drag it to?
[13:52] <ripthejacker> the sidebar?
[13:52] <OrgMental> ripthejacker, did you try to right-click and drag?
[13:53] <jpmh> zetheroo: I would suggest if testing is that important and it is so specific that you avoid what you are suggesting - have you tested with virtualbox?
[13:53] <jrib> ripthejacker: i drag it to the white space in the folder or directly to a folder icon
[13:53] <bennypr0fane_> hello, I have trouble playing a DVD with VLC and/or Gnome Mplayer, it says "could not open device /dev/dvd"
[13:53] <LoneTrooper> try smplayer its better
[13:53] <LoneTrooper> get it from ubuntu sotware center
[13:54] <ripthejacker> jrib, i want to move it across different windows
[13:54] <jrib> ripthejacker: yes
[13:54] <aguu> yeehaw, jpmh: i wanted to make a DNS server. Windows does the job. Linux is only for hackers. This applies to almost everything, not just DNS.
[13:54] <LoneTrooper> u mean programs lacks user interface like windows apps?
[13:55] <aguu> The UI shows me exactly which values I am allowed to add, and does not allow for syntax errors or other stupid mistakes.
[13:55] <LoneTrooper> yeh linux mostly its about typing commands in terminal
[13:55] <aguu> there are drop downs, and helpful tips and advices.
[13:55] <bennypr0fane_> LoneTrooper: but apart from the consideration of which is better, it should work in these players just as well shouldn't it?
[13:55] <LoneTrooper> well its all free so it lacks features
[13:55] <jpmh> aguu: clearly you are merely trolling - if you understand dns well enough to be able to set it up right you would be able to do it more quickly with an editor than a gui - you would also know that rarely does it make sense not to outsource this
[13:56] <aguu> on linux, i have to search everywhere on the internet in order to solve SIMPLE SYNTAX errors in the config files.
[13:56] <ripthejacker> jrib, when i drag it foldr icon it just opens a new instance of nautilus
[13:56] <jrib> ripthejacker: where are you dragging it to?
[13:56] <LoneTrooper> well yes ture dat
[13:56] <ripthejacker> *onto folder icon
[13:56] <LoneTrooper> true
[13:56] <jrib> ripthejacker: and what are you dragging?
[13:56] <ripthejacker> the icon on the sidebar
[13:56] <ripthejacker> a folder
[13:56] <aguu> jpmh: i don't need to understand dns well enough. I can learn by doing, AND i don't really need to know or remember how to set up dns. It is done once.
[13:56] <yeehaw> aguu: Wow, never knew I was a hacker
[13:57] <jpmh> aguu: as I said - you clearly do not understand it well enough - but why on earth are you running your own authoritive servers - and do you really have TWO separatel locations to do this from - and if so, how are you administering the remote one with the GUI safely?
[13:57] <jrib> ripthejacker: that's not the behavior I see here.  I open two nautilus windows, select a folder on the left, drag it to a folder on the right, and the directory is moved
[13:57] <ripthejacker> jrib, i want to move a folder from my usb drive to a folder in my home folder how will i do it?
[13:57] <aguu> jpmh: now if you're implying that a user should be completely separated from a power user, then that's just showing the problem that linux has. It's always either be a hacker or be an ignorant user and call support or your linux hacker friend.
[13:57] <jrib> ripthejacker: you can also open up a new pane in nautilus, maybe that's easier to work with?
[13:58] <ripthejacker> ok the windows are maximised
[13:58] <ripthejacker> so no left and right
[13:58] <yeehaw> aguu: trolling much
[13:58] <bennypr0fane_> aguu Linux works better for "people who know" indeed. thast term not implying any judgement whatsoever :-) If you know more, you're better off with Linux, and it'll still require you to learn. If you "don't know stuff", and you're fine with all the limitations, Windows might very well suit you better
[13:58] <aguu> jpmh: on linux you HAVE to hack and be an expert, or spend countless hours investigated how to hack it.
[13:58] <jrib> ripthejacker: go to view -> extra pane
[13:58] <LoneTrooper> try pacman filemanager it allows easily managing files with admin rights
[13:58] <thaurwylth> I am not sure about that assesment.
[13:58] <jamie236> Hello, I'm having some troubles with wireless (I posted a detailed debug output on ubuntu forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12505523#post12505523). Where would be a good place to ask for help (except #ubuntu) ?
[13:59] <LoneTrooper> its easier than using terminal with sudo command
[13:59] <thaurwylth> Considering the current state of Ubuntu and current state of Windows.
[13:59] <jpmh> aguu: no - that is not what I am saying at all - but what I would say is that if your domains are important then it is VERY important that they be right at the DNS level and if you don't understand it fully then you should not touch it.  I can probably manage to do brain surgery, how complex can it be, with a GUI, but you know, I wouldn't
[13:59] <aguu> bennypr0fane_: you really think memorizing the syntax of DNS zone files is a very useful skill, if it wasn't for linux requiring you do so?
[14:00] <yeehaw> jamie236: Are there any wireless networks around?
[14:00] <ripthejacker> jrib,i know that , so i should have only one window of nautilus open at a time
[14:00] <LoneTrooper> oops sry its pcmanfm that software
[14:00] <jrib> aguu: let's get back to support.  Do you have a support issue that we can help you with?
[14:00] <jamie236> yeehaw: yes, dozens. I'm connected to one right now.
[14:00] <nearst> jamie236, http://pleph.appspot.com/init/posts/view/2657865
[14:00] <aguu> jpmh: wow, this must be rocket science. that explains why i can totally manage just fine on windows. that's a poor excuse.
[14:00] <ripthejacker> i.e i cannot drag and drop across different windows
[14:00] <jpmh> aguu: there is not much to memorize since the files are full of examples - and I certainly would not run any domain I cared about on an OS as insecure as windoze - remember even Microsoft doesn't
[14:01] <nearst> aww
[14:01] <jamie236> thanks nearst , but I tried that already.
[14:01] <jrib> ripthejacker: well if you don't have them maximized, but have them smaller so you can see both at the same time, can you then drag between them?
[14:01] <aguu> jpmh: you should accept linux' flaws. It's understandable, since it is a much smaller company than microsoft and apple, the only two big competitors.
[14:01] <jrib> jpmh: please just drop it
[14:02] <bennypr0fane_> aguu I think yes, definitely useful. I you deal with these things regularly/you have this kind of problems to solve, obviously it's good if you know all that
[14:02] <LoneTrooper> well im new to linux and i need to know if theres a need to install anti virus software on linux distribution like xubuntu?
[14:02] <jpmh> aguu: you don't have that second server do you?  and as to flaws - the fact that Microsoft chooses to run their DNS on unix should tell you which is the more appropriate system - there is mo question Windoze is better for grabbing games, games are written for Windoze
[14:02] <nearst> jamie236, most ppl solve by those fix. echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf
[14:03] <jamie236> nearst: Tried that, nothing changes.
[14:03] <bennypr0fane_> aguu one very, very important aspect of Linux is that it IS NOT a company
[14:03] <LoneTrooper> the only reasonable antivir i found its avast but it was relased in 2009 :/
[14:03] <jpmh> LoneTrooper: there is little need for an anti-virus unless you want to protect mail that passes through your system on the way from one windoze system to another
[14:03] <jrib> aguu, jpmh, bennypr0fane_: merits of windows vs. linux usability > elsewhere please (#ubuntu-offtopic for example.  I'll kick further offtopic discussion here.
[14:03] <LoneTrooper> no updates from this time
[14:03] <bennypr0fane_> DVD/media player anyone? other than trying a different program?
[14:04] <jpmh> LoneTrooper: reason for that is there really is no need
[14:04] <LoneTrooper> well i dont share INTERNET connection with anyone then the answer is no?
[14:04] <bennypr0fane_> jrib alright, it's offtopic - dropping it
[14:04] <yeehaw> bennypr0fane_: VLC /mplayer ?
[14:04] <LoneTrooper> lol good to know
[14:04] <bennypr0fane_> yeehaw, yes
[14:04] <nearst> jamie236, try manual install http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/01/wifix-detect-and-install-wireless-card.html
[14:05] <jpmh> LoneTrooper: even if you did I would not worry - having said that, clearly do not install any unsigned applications and set your system to grab and install all security patches
[14:05] <LoneTrooper> oh i do that
[14:06] <jamie236> nearst: I'll give it a shot now. Thanks for helping me.
[14:06] <jpmh> LoneTrooper: one of the great things about Linux, despite what aguu believes is that there are MANY more people checking the source than there are in Windoze - this is the great advantage of open source
[14:06] <LoneTrooper> and the thing that protect linux based os is the password right? thats why its safe i assume everything needs password to work
[14:06] <marcell> hi can you help me ,im installed gnuradio but i cant found where or how to run it ,im new to linux
[14:06] <nearst> idk why sometime my box "unclickable"
[14:07] <bennypr0fane_> beware guys, restricted area (TOPIC)
[14:07] <LoneTrooper> about that being open source can hackers take advantage of that too its sounds dangerous i mean they can spot bugs in source and use them
[14:07] <nigorex> hello
[14:07] <jpmh> LoneTrooper: not really the password as much as the facts that: 1) the system grew from Unix which was designed to be a connected, multi-user system with security from day one and 2) being open source there are so many people checking and patching
[14:07] <nigorex> how are you  guys
[14:08] <nearst> nigorex, fine ty. hbu
[14:08] <nigorex> im good thx
[14:08] <yeehaw> LoneTrooper: That actually makes linux more secure to an extent, bugs are fixed much faster because of community efforts. Windows can sometimes take very long.
[14:08] <LoneTrooper> yeh thats good people are committing their time to make free stuff work great
[14:08] <jpmh> LoneTrooper: you are right - in theory a hacker could see the open source and use it for bad ends - the good news is that it doe snot seem to happen because there are more good guys and they work faster
[14:08] <nigorex> is there someone to give some advice on ubuntu
[14:09] <DJones> nigorex: Just ask your question, thats the best of starting
[14:09] <family> hi
[14:09] <cvele> hi, can anyone help me with MyPhoneExplorer installation? (ubuntu 12.04 x86_64) Thanx
[14:09] <family> no body here
[14:09] <bennypr0fane_> I was thinking maybe /dev/dvd might not actually mapped to my optical drive. But in that case, the drive wouldn't start acting when I tell the Media player to open a disc, right?
[14:09] <nigorex> i want to get my internet configured on my laptop
[14:09] <LoneTrooper> well yes thass true
[14:09] <jpmh> LoneTrooper: I remember years ago needing a locksmith and I was amazed how quickly he picked the lock - I said to him, why would I use a lock at all if it is that simple, he answered that he had been a cop for 12 years before a locksmith and had never seen a case where a criminal had picked a lock - he said they were not willing to make the investment
[14:09] <nigorex> cause it so slow and it crash my lappy
[14:10] <bennypr0fane_> nigorex nobody even talks about ubuntu, what would make you think you'd get advice about it here?
[14:10] <LoneTrooper> what it has to do with that :III
[14:10] <bennypr0fane_> nigorey just kidding, sorry
[14:10] <nigorex> your awrite
[14:11] <jpmh> LoneTrooper: also consider Apple who sometimes takes weeks and weeks to release patches when something is disclosed like the ssl-bug - linux had it fixed the next day, Windoze took till the next patch-tuesday and Mac took months
[14:11] <LoneTrooper> its that because there r not that many bad guys?
[14:11] <fari> heeeeyyyyyyyyyyyy
[14:11] <bennypr0fane_> fari and heeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyy to you toooooo!
[14:11] <nearst> !ask
[14:11] <LoneTrooper> if thats true then its good to be Linux user i assume
[14:11] <fari> benny
[14:12] <jpmh> LoneTrooper: I think it is because smart people tend to be smart and chose to be good guys - being a bad guy is for the lazy and not so smart
[14:12] <dariusz> Hi all. I have problem with php version. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10. I've had 5.4.6 version from ubuntu official repository. Then I want to update, add ondrej repository and after update I have version 5.4.11. Unfortunately I need version 5.4.8. WHat can I do? When I test what versions are available there are only these two on the list. Any ideas?
[14:12] <fari> hi benny
[14:12] <LoneTrooper> well things that are done for passion have more value than things made for money
[14:12] <nigorex> is there someone to help a newbie
[14:12] <nearst> throw out questions
[14:12] <fari> no one
[14:13] <LoneTrooper> well yeh but that mostly applies for computing not in real world
[14:13] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:13] <jpmh> nigorex: there is also the absolute-beginners area
[14:13] <nigorex> how to get squid working for my proxy
[14:13] <bennypr0fane_> LoneTrooper n the current situation my guess is the bad tend to focus on the targets with the biggest marketshare, because where you have moire comnputer s to hack, more people to scam and exploit, simple as that
[14:13] <jamie236_> nearst: No luck. (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1639515/ , if i run wifix as su, i get please sure without su) Do you have any other suggestions (or do you know where I could ask for help) ?
[14:13] <bennypr0fane_> nigorex do explain what is squid
[14:14] <nigorex> a proxy
[14:14] <jpmh> LoneTrooper: I do not agree - I think that the evidence is clear that it applies to the software world too - this is why the open source worls tends to be more secure
[14:14] <bennypr0fane_> fari what is your question? what you need?
[14:14] <nearst> nigorex, usually after sudo apt-get install squid , then squid -z and squid -Ncd1 as i remember
[14:14] <LoneTrooper> yeh windows is more vulnerable just because of its popularity
[14:14] <nigorex> anyway my question how to get the best of internet from ubuntu
[14:14] <fari> me
[14:14] <fari> donet speak english good
[14:14] <bennypr0fane_> fari yes you
[14:14] <bennypr0fane_> jsut ask
[14:14] <bennypr0fane_> *just
[14:15] <fari> what
[14:15] <fari> ?
[14:15] <msch> hey, anyone here using cgroup-bin and trying to assign things started by upstart to cgroups?
[14:15] <bennypr0fane_> fari state your business, say what you want
[14:15] <LoneTrooper> so many ppl here i wonder i all of them r active
[14:15] <fari> h dont understand
[14:15] <bennypr0fane_> nigorex what you mean "out of the internet"?
[14:16] <bennypr0fane_> Lonetrooper prolly not, always like that
[14:16] <nigorex> get a good connection
[14:16] <LoneTrooper> yeh
[14:16] <bennypr0fane_> better like that, makes it easier to follow a conversation
[14:16] <nigorex> squid command not wroking at all
[14:16] <fari> benny ok
[14:16] <fari> but
[14:16] <nigorex> as if all the system is corrupted with worm and so on
[14:17] <bennypr0fane_> nigorey the way I see it, either you have a working connection or you don't - unless we're talking of a bad wifi signal
[14:17] <fari> what do you speak about this room benny
[14:17] <dariusz> Anybody can help how to force php specific version?
[14:17] <nigorex> i have wifi
[14:17] <bennypr0fane_> so I mean apart from factors that lie with your ISP, not a question of quality on your end
[14:18] <jpmh> nigorex: you need to be specific about what is working and what is not - I smell another troll - sadly I need to leave so can not stay to watch the fun
[14:18] <bennypr0fane_> nigorex well do you get a signal?
[14:18] <nigorex> yeahhhhhhhh
[14:18] <nigorex> modem+router
[14:18] <bennypr0fane_> alright, then something must be configured wrong
[14:19] <bennypr0fane_> describe yout network setup
[14:19] <nigorex> can i configure the DNS  and other ip adress would do
[14:19] <nigorex>  i ahve done in the past but done really remmmber now
[14:19] <bennypr0fane_> you have admin access to the router?
[14:20] <bennypr0fane_> you're gonna need all the proper config data
[14:20] <nearst> jamie236_, lshw -class network
[14:20] <nigorex> thats a big thing since i have install i cant get acess ..only to my isp modem
[14:20] <nigorex> its so bad
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:21] <bennypr0fane_> fari you need to type my full nick if you want my attention. If you don't have a question for Ubuntu support, you're in the wrong place though
[14:21] <bennypr0fane_> nigorex then probably you got the configuration wrong
[14:21] <nearst> jamie236_, http://linuxplained.com/how-to-fix-wireless-problems-in-ubuntu-1204-precise-pangolin/
[14:22] <nigorex> which one is it man
[14:22] <nearst> nigorex, dhcp or static?
[14:22] <nigorex> how to get it right please
[14:22] <jamie236_> nearst:  here is lshw output (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1639540/), lots of more http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2115166. I'll track backports now.
[14:23] <nearst> jamie236_, try with temp solution from last url i give + backports
[14:23] <dhanu> Join #Ubuntu-Sragen
[14:24] <k-stz> So I have a USB->Hdmiadapter->hdmi-tv setup. I want a 2nd monitor on that TV... can someone point me/ tell me what I have to do?
[14:25] <bennypr0fane_> nigorex that link from nearst might also be interesting for you. I totally forgot about possible driver issues
[14:25] <nigorex> hay are you there
[14:25] <Squarism> What can you do with a ubuntu box that stops during boot after a new graphics card has been added?
[14:26] <Squarism> ....its quite late.. like after applications and such are intialized
[14:26] <nigorex> i did get it thx anyway  .. see ya
[14:26] <nearst> Squarism, try with nomodeset?
[14:26] <nearst> !nomodeset | Squarism
[14:26]  * lasers Gets nearst nomodeset | Squarism <%)
[14:27] <DJones> !test | DJones
[14:27]  * lasers Gets DJones test | DJones <%)
[14:27] <MoL0ToV> checking for X... no
[14:27] <MoL0ToV> configure: WARNING: X Windows development tools were not found.
[14:27] <MoL0ToV> configure: WARNING: Please install xlib-dev or xorg-x11-devel.
[14:27] <MoL0ToV> configure: error: Cinelerra requires X Windows.
[14:27] <MoL0ToV> howto fix?
[14:27] <DJones> lasers: If thats a script, please turn it off
[14:30] <Peanut> yeehaw: these are servers without keyboard or display, 42 of them in two racks. I remove resolvconf and network-manager, but on 12.04 I'm always getting 'waiting 60 more seconds for network configuration".
[14:31] <jamie236_> nearst: No luck. Do you have any other suggestions?
[14:32] <Sendoushi> hey guys. how can i set a static ip?
[14:35] <jamie236_> nearst: Not sure if it helps, but this is not distribution/version specific problem. I cannot get it to work in debian stable or ubuntu 12.4.
[14:36] <nearst> u using precise or quantal?
[14:37] <nearst> MoL0ToV, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1667379&page=2
[14:38] <BluesKaj> Sendoushi, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[14:38] <BluesKaj> Sendoushi, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[14:38] <Sendoushi> i've done something like that
[14:39] <BluesKaj> oops , sorry for the dupe
[14:39] <Sendoushi> trying one solution around that ...
[14:39] <Sendoushi> i'm under a VM by the way
[14:39] <Sendoushi> trying this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010991
[14:39] <nearst> jamie236_, if u wanna compile own module, u may look here by compat-wireless http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1286503
[14:40] <BluesKaj> Sendoushi, always tell the chat that you're in a VM first , then state your problem
[14:40] <Sendoushi> sorry
[14:40] <jamie236_> nearst: I'll give it a shot!
[14:41] <Sendoushi> i don't know if this is working... it seems to me i don't have access to the internet
[14:41] <Sendoushi> well it is working the ip so... i guess everything is ok
[14:43] <bennypr0fane_> Sendoushi would it have to be done differently fron a VM than the "normal procedure"?
[14:43] <Sendoushi> it doesn't seem to me... i've done everything as the "rules" say
[14:43] <navneeth> Hi... I run 12.04 desktop, a couple of times I've noticed the network monitor displaying a lot of network activity (stuff being downloaded) and nethogs told me nothing more than the python was using up all that... any guesses what it could be. I don't have anything other than BOINC, Firefox and the Terminal running at the moment.
[14:43] <Sendoushi> after following that tut i've showed everything worked
[14:44] <Sendoushi> at least now i can access via the ip to the apache on the server on computers on the same network
[14:44] <Sendoushi> which was i wanted
[14:44] <Sendoushi> now i can just set a smb folder
[14:45] <nearst> sometime mini ubuntu installer is more fun
[14:46] <vmachine> just installed ubuntu 12 desktop.. loving it...hopefully i can still with a desktop version
[14:46] <vmachine> tried older versions of ubuntu and ended up reformating
[14:47] <navneeth> A repost, sorry
[14:47] <navneeth> Hi... I run 12.04 desktop, a couple of times I've noticed the network monitor displaying a lot of network activity (stuff being downloaded) and nethogs told me nothing more than the python was using up all that... any guesses what it could be. I don't have anything other than BOINC, Firefox and the Terminal running at the moment.
[14:48] <vmachine> how can i be sure that all of my drivers are loaded?
[14:49] <nearst> look at lsmod
[14:49] <nearst> or depmod -ae
[14:50] <LoneTrooper> vmachine good that u mentioned that is there an application for linux based system that can show  all installed hardware something similar to windows device management?
[14:51] <LoneTrooper> i just wonder
[14:51] <nearst> hardinfo
[14:51] <algorithm_redefi> i'm trying to install adobe flash player but i'm having some problems. any solution??
[14:51] <LoneTrooper> oh i heard about that app
[14:51] <ThinkT510> LoneTrooper: sudo lshw
[14:51] <LoneTrooper> thx for remanding me that
[14:51] <LoneTrooper> oh i try that to thinkT510
[14:52] <nearst> algorithm_redefi, try sudo install flashplugin-installer
[14:52] <jpds> nearst: You forgot apt-get.
[14:53] <nearst> jpds, yup. sorry. sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[14:53] <LoneTrooper> wow a lot of date have been displayed in terminal using that command
[14:53] <algorithm_redefi> install: missing destination file operand after `flashplugin-installer'
[14:53] <LoneTrooper> its usefull
[14:57] <W|cKeD> hi i forgot where i put my conky script :( but still my conky is running is it possible to know where i put the file? how?
[14:57] <LoneTrooper> thats weird that xubuntu detected and installed all drivers for my hardware even it found my ZTE modem, i had just to install drivers for amd ari graphic card thats all
[14:57] <vmachine> ZTE lol
[14:57] <compdoc> weird
[14:57] <vmachine> ZTE is the worst
[14:57] <LoneTrooper> yeh cheap Chinese modem
[14:58] <LoneTrooper> but it works lol
[14:58] <vmachine> I worked with them i know ...
[14:58] <LoneTrooper> without installing any drivers
[14:58] <LoneTrooper> while windows 7 needs drivers...
[14:59] <nearst> jockey do the work
[14:59] <LoneTrooper> is that new meme thing?
[15:00] <nearst> some app
[15:02] <NastyNaz> I just came to say "tmux is the shit" and want to thank whoever recommended it to me the other day.
[15:03] <nearst> byobu?
[15:04] <lantizia> Lo, since both Cisco and Citrix "web meeting" software doesn't work natively on Linux (their clients are all windows/mac) - if I were to suggest an alternative to a company who uses either, what would I suggest?
[15:04] <tortik> Is any software to see a voltage on a power supply?
[15:04] <LoneTrooper> someone may be laughing ZTE but whats the difference between designed by western companies and the manufactured by Chinese and  designed by Chinese and the manufactured by Chinese
[15:05] <nearst> chinese product is everywhere compete with eu/us
[15:05] <LoneTrooper> everyone knows that
[15:07] <LoneTrooper> look theres crisis in Europe why dont western companies move their companies to their countries and stabilize the situation to provide jobs for the people?
[15:07] <LoneTrooper> instead of letting china grow larger
[15:08] <LoneTrooper> and put at risk everyone
[15:08] <nearst> they have a good "PR"
[15:09] <LoneTrooper> but the overall quality...
[15:09] <glphvgacs> is this ubuntu for users?
[15:09] <luckymurali> hi all
[15:09] <LoneTrooper> hi
[15:09] <bennypr0fane_> LoneTrooper becasue western companies don't give a shit. You love to remain offtopic. don't you?
[15:09] <LoneTrooper> yes benny why not
[15:10] <Pici> LoneTrooper: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. Please move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:10] <Pici> !offtopic
[15:10]  * lasers Gets Pici offtopic <%)
[15:10] <luckymurali> if I am running the below commands in terminal , I am able to get correct path
[15:10] <luckymurali> export PATH=/home/trainee/flex/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[15:10] <luckymurali> 	export JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/jdk1.6.0_29
[15:10] <luckymurali>     export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
[15:10] <LoneTrooper> lololoo no need to take that sudden actions
[15:10] <luckymurali> but when I am saving these commands as a shell script IT is not setting correct path
[15:10] <luckymurali> I dont know why
[15:11] <nearst> sudo update-alternatives --config java ?
[15:11] <ircfreak> hello
[15:11] <bennypr0fane_> LoneTrooper I don't mind personally, but when the channel is crowded, it does make alot od unnecessary lines making the discussions hard to keep track of. besides. It's just the rulesglphvgacs
[15:11] <luckymurali> nearst, even that also not working in my case :(\
[15:11] <luckymurali> nearst, even that also not working in my case :(
[15:11] <LoneTrooper> yes but its quiet most of the time..
[15:12] <LoneTrooper> whatever
[15:12] <jamie236> nearst: Thanks for all the help. Wireless is working now, but I have to stand next to router to get any signal.
[15:12] <LoRez> I've got tigerrc saying 'Tiger_Check_INITTAB=N           # Fast', but tiger's cron job still complains about /etc/inittab being missing
[15:13] <nearst> jamie236, that module have problem with low signal receptions. try googling more for improve wifi performance
[15:13] <nearst> jamie236, u use compat-wireless method?
[15:14] <jamie236> nearst: No, ath9k.
[15:14] <nearst> oic. kk
[15:16] <dscape> hi, I'm running ubuntu and it shows 88% memory usage in `free`
[15:16] <dscape> however in top the max utilization i can find is 0.8%
[15:16] <dscape> can anyone help me understand why this might be?
[15:17] <marahin> Does Ubuntu have any built-in (OOTB) vnc server?
[15:17] <k1l_> dscape: linuxatemyram.com explains why
[15:17] <compdoc> OOTB?
[15:17] <LoneTrooper> well it all depends how much RAM u have
[15:17] <dscape> k1l_: lol
[15:17] <compdoc> it has vino, which is desktop sharing
[15:17] <k1l_> dscape: free does show several things. so there is explained what you are seeing
[15:18] <mfilipe_> how can I install a package without the dependencies?
[15:18] <mfilipe_> dpkg -i package.deb ... ?
[15:18] <electron_> anybody installed gnome shell on ubuntu 12.04
[15:18] <ryansipes> electron_: I have
[15:18] <dscape> thanks k1l_ — great information and in a great format
[15:18] <k1l_> electron_: im pretty sure someone did that
[15:18] <dscape> helpful with a laught, thank you
[15:19] <LoneTrooper> well its good to know that ubutu uses low ram and when u have like 4 gb then it doest use swap at all , its liek page file
[15:19] <LoneTrooper> in windows
[15:19] <electron_> ryansipes, but its not exactly the same environment as i get in fedora or arch
[15:19] <electron_> for example the message tray
[15:19] <electron_> and the lgoin managers
[15:20] <k1l_> electron_: ubuntu changes some thinkgs with the shell
[15:20] <nearst> aptitude install --without-recommends
[15:20] <electron_> ryansipes: did you get the message tray
[15:20] <joshu> anyone know how I can check if this patch has been applied to ubuntu desktop 12.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1639673/
[15:20] <LoneTrooper> i think theres no difrence but it would be smart to put sort of system monitor in your taskbar to see how much os is using ram just to be sure
[15:21] <electron_> k1l_, i installed for the gnome team ppa not from the repos
[15:21] <TXRoadkill> I have a speed improvement tip for Ubuntu 12.10 users
[15:21] <LoneTrooper> and cpu & network usage
[15:21] <k1l_> electron_: but still there are some things from the shell that do interfere with the ubunut way of handling things.
[15:22] <TXRoadkill> My old Dell Dimension 8400 has been really sluggish, especially the video.  I installed the new KDE 4.10 interface, and it has vastly improved the speed of Unity, believe it or not
[15:22] <paiva> alguem portugues aqui ?
[15:22] <LoneTrooper> i dont know what windows environment ur using but in xfce its easy to do so
[15:22] <electron_> k1l_ ,okay ... hmm have you tried it ? do you know how to get the cool login screen from the actual gnome environment in ubuntu ?
[15:22] <broknbottle> xfce ftw
[15:23] <LoneTrooper> yes
[15:23] <TXRoadkill> KDE looks pretty cool in its own right, but Unity works far better after the KDE installation.  Just thought I'd let you all know :)
[15:23] <k1l_> electron_: no i dont.
[15:23] <helmut_> hi
[15:23] <TXRoadkill> Hi helmut_
[15:23] <broknbottle> switched to xfce & dropped unity / pulse audio and no more issue with my htpc
[15:23] <LoneTrooper> unity slows down pc check benchmark on internet and compare other window x environment while running games
[15:24] <LoneTrooper> unity is slowing pc just because of visuals
[15:24] <lasers> DJones, Pici: Sorry about that.
[15:24] <MarKsaitis> apt-get eqvivalent of "dpkg --force-conflicts"????
[15:24] <LoneTrooper> xfce just good enough u can customize it and works fast
[15:24] <LoneTrooper> i will give u that likn 28
[15:24] <BluesKaj> TXRoadkill, not to start a flameer , but to each is own ,,I find KDE much more flexible than Unity
[15:24] <LoneTrooper> w8
[15:25] <TXRoadkill> Hey, I'm going to check out KDE myself.  Just a nice bonus from the installation.
[15:25] <LoneTrooper> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments see all linux based windows environments
[15:26] <TXRoadkill> I like all the built-in keyboard shortcuts in Unity, but me friends tell me I can program something similar into KDE
[15:26] <marahin> hum... harro
[15:26] <TXRoadkill> *my friends
[15:26] <marahin> i've a problem with my VNC setup on Ubuntu 12.10 - I am using X11vnc
[15:26] <Sendoushi> damn... that set my static ip but now i've shutdown and takes a loooongg time
[15:27] <marahin> i start vnc with those flags:
[15:27] <marahin> x11vnc -usepw -nofb -nobell -desktop sp4wn
[15:27] <emmanuel> Please how will I get a good irc client for my E75 symbian Nokia? mirgi autocrashes
[15:27] <marahin> and it works pretty well - i can connect and such, the session captures the mouse move and the keyboard usage, although it seems like the Xs ain't loading
[15:27] <marahin> http://puu.sh/21q9x
[15:27] <DJones> emmanuel: This is Ubuntu support, you'll need to find the nokia support channel
[15:27] <DJones> !alis | emmanuel
[15:27] <LoneTrooper> solution - symbian is already dead
[15:29] <emmanuel> LoneTrooper, thanks
[15:37] <Sendoushi> how can i set a smb user permissions to 777?
[15:39] <Helmuthonian> Hi, I have a BASH script that opens several programs. How can I open open a program in certain desktop?
[15:40] <jrib> Helmuthonian: try "DISPLAY=:0.X command_here" and make X either 0 or 1 or 2, etc.
[15:41] <P3N74> hello
[15:41] <P3N74> I have a printer shared through a windows machine
[15:41] <P3N74> and I would like to connect to my ubuntu server(no GUI)
[15:42] <P3N74> so I can print from it
[15:42] <P3N74> how could I do that? thank you
[15:42] <faezeh> faezeh\
[15:43] <GeekSquid> P3N74: http://server-ip-address:631
[15:43] <P3N74> GeekSquid: thats cups right?
[15:43] <P3N74> I tought I could mount the printer
[15:43] <P3N74> as samba share
[15:43] <P3N74> and print from it
[15:44] <GeekSquid> P3N74: yes, ... you don't mount a printer as a smb share, cups will find the shared printer
[15:45] <nearst> :)
[15:45] <x861> ...
[15:46] <x861> ?
[15:46] <thaurwylth> Sound cards. I want to find the following, if possible. Any hints? EXTERNAL, preferably USB, preferably Creative or Asus, 5.1 or 7.1 output, has to work well with Ubuntu, preferably 24+b and 72+kHz.
[15:47] <P3N74> GeekSquid: do you mean I have to type http://server-ip:631/ in my browser?
[15:47] <P3N74> and print from there?
[15:47] <Doobie420> how do i get the unity dash to not remember the last application i searched for and launched. it seems pretty ridiculous that i have to clear the search term every fricken time
[15:47] <faezeh> oooppppppssssssssss
[15:47] <Sendoushi> can't i just make a smb user 777? tried everything and still is like the root user
[15:47] <varunv> Hi, I want to set a password for my existing IRC channel.
[15:47] <varunv> How do I do it?
[15:48] <DJones> varunv: Thats a question #freenode they should be able to help you with that
[15:48] <varunv> Alright thanks!
[15:48] <jhutchins_wk> varunv: /msg nickserv help register
[15:48] <joshu> nearst do you recall a day or two ago we discussed a thin client solution I was looking for
[15:49] <faezeh> yah
[15:49] <electron_> gnome shell 3.6 on ubuntu 12.04 is it possible ?"
[15:49] <jhutchins_wk> Sendoushi: Access control on SMB shares is configured in the smb.conf file.
[15:49] <nearst> joshu, ya. im  doin it atm.
[15:49] <joshu> nearst you're creating a thin client?
[15:49] <Sendoushi> jhutchins_wk: done that iwth a lot of lines makes, create directories, force directories... all 777
[15:49] <electron_> ?
[15:49] <nearst> joshu, yup. for my own dev iso
[15:49] <electron_> has anybosyy added gnome shell 3.6 to ubuntu 12.04
[15:50] <Helmuthonian> jrib: Hi thanks first. But I get this fail: Display :0.1 unavailable, simulating -nw
[15:50] <P3N74> GeekSquid: I can't access server-ip:631 from browser
[15:50] <faezeh> i am architect
[15:50] <jrib> Helmuthonian: "DISPLAY=:0 command_here" work ok?
[15:50] <faezeh> i need some help
[15:50] <Helmuthonian> jrib: Je
[15:50] <imark_> electron_: why dont you try googling it, i just did, it took about 3 seconds and bought up plenty of hits
[15:51] <DJones> faezeh: Ask your question, if anybody knows and can help, I'm sure they'll reply
[15:51] <joshu> alright. i still haven't been able to go get anything concrete together. I was on #ltsp and after some discussion someone suggested lightdm and ubuntu mini.isop
[15:51] <jrib> Helmuthonian: I think the .X style only lets you choose different screens, not desktops.  You are using unity?
[15:51] <joshu> *.iso
[15:51] <Helmuthonian> jrib: Yes
[15:51] <nearst> joshu, http://wiki.dennyhalim.com/ubuntu-minimal-desktop will give u an idea :)
[15:52] <Helmuthonian> jrib: I have to mention that i am a newbe
[15:52] <electron_> imark_,hmm well most of them say that it hasnt been completely backported but it is still posiible though through
[15:52] <jrib> Helmuthonian: you might try the following: 1) ccsm might have some rules that let you control where applications open 2) you might be able to use the "wmctrl" command to move windows where you want or 3) you might be able to use devilspie to force applications to open in specific desktops
[15:53] <Helmuthonian> jrib: Thanks for Help I will read about this.
[15:53] <electron_> imark_ by adding another ppa apart from the gnome team 3 (which i dont want to)
[15:53] <vmachine> trying to adjust the speed of my mouse doesnt seem to be working
[15:53] <zykotick9> jrib: :) i was surprised by your answer to Helmuthonian, i'd tried doing this before: and failed, couldn't believe it was so easy - so I wrote it down for later.  now :(..
[15:54] <joshu> nearst thanks I'll have a look. just want to discuss conceptually
[15:54] <nearst> vmachine, http://justinstories.wordpress.com/2011/01/05/how-to-adjust-the-pointer-speed-and-other-touch-padmouse-settings-in-ubuntu/
[15:55] <imark_> electron_: gnome devs wont backport 3.6 to to 12.04, someone else has packaged it so your choices are use that other persons package or compile from source manually,
[15:55] <joshu> the requirements are that the laptop hardware is fully supported, e.g. graphics, wifi, ehernet. read-only ubuntu OS which the user cannot modify.
[15:55] <electron_> imark_, oh ... okay thank you
[15:56] <rbobby> this team3 at wisesmoke
[15:56] <imark_> electron_: i recommend using the other ppa, if your worried about having an unstable system then your stuck with 3.4, thats why they don't backport all the time, stability. you could try it in virtualbox to test it out
[15:57] <electron_> imark_ hmm okay ... have you tried it though ?
[15:57] <holywater> hii
[15:57] <joshu> when the user powers on the laptop presented with a login prompt. user must either be connected via LAN or UTMS usb modem. When the user logins in the a check is done to see if it is LAN or USB modem connected. if the later the modem connects. once the laptop has an internet connection, a cisco vpn session is established and finally an RDP session to terminal server.
[15:58] <joshu> someone in #ltsp suggested that lightdm has the right capability and together with ubuntu mini would be a solution to investigate
[15:58] <imark_> electron_: no i havent, im using 12.10, generally a bad idea to backport too many packages unless you really know what you're doing, you can end up with broken dependency problems,
[15:58] <vmachine> nearst: installed the program but alt f1 doesnt open it
[15:59] <K1rk> Has anyone ever seen this issue with a WINE program, where you can not actually click anything even though the mouse movement and mouseover works?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2113787
[15:59] <vmachine> did  search for gpointing nothing shows up
[15:59] <electron_> imark_, cool ... and ive noticed that unity consumes up more battery than when i use gnome shell ... have you tried that out too ?
[15:59] <nearst> vmachine, paste on terminal
[16:00] <vmachine> paste what on terminal..? the program says its installed
[16:01] <imark_> electron_: i dont use either, i prefer cinnamon, but they all use the gnome3 libraries, they should all require the same resources, unity uses compiz though, which is a bit of a hog, thats probably why unity is worse for power
[16:01] <nearst> linear to moore law :|
[16:03] <zykotick9> electron_: you could install powertop to get power difference between unity/gnome-shell if you really wanted.
[16:05] <joshu> nearst any thoughts on lightdm as i've described?
[16:05] <electron_> zykotick9 ... ubuntu has a power-statistics app ...  theres upower --dump as another option tto :)
[16:10] <nearst> joshu, worth to try
[16:13] <vmachine> i cannot get the gpointing device menu up in 12.10 using unity
[16:13] <vmachine> alt-f1 doesnt work
[16:14] <nearst> ctrl+alt+t
[16:14] <nearst> that only keyboard binding
[16:14] <vmachine> ok that brings up terminal
[16:14] <vmachine> i need to open the app
[16:15] <yeehaw> gtksudo gpointing in the terminal?
[16:15] <yeehaw> gksudo gpointing I mean
[16:16] <exalt> hello how will ubuntu 13.04 handle my optimus card differently than 12.10 ?
[16:16] <craigbass1976> What's the preferred method for stopping unwanted ssh login attempts?  I used to use denyhosts
[16:16] <vmachine> nothing happens
[16:16] <vmachine> no errors from the command
[16:16] <jrib> craigbass1976: what's wrong with denyhostst?
[16:16] <broknbottle> craig901: csf works really good
[16:17] <craigbass1976> jrib, nothing that I remember.
[16:17] <DJones> exalt: Probably worth joining #ubuntu+1 and asking that question, thats the support channel for 13.04
[16:17] <jrib> craigbass1976: use what works :)
[16:17] <joshu> is there a specific lightdm channel or can I ask questions related to that here?
[16:17] <nearst> exalt, devel platform still
[16:18] <zykotick9> craigbass1976: fail2ban is pretty neat.  might not be what you're looking for though?
[16:18] <nearst> joshu, https://launchpad.net/lightdm
[16:19] <broknbottle> craigbass1976: csf works really well; http://configserver.com/cp/csf.html
[16:19] <exalt> DJones, nearst : i did but its dead in there
[16:19] <PrincessLuna> Hi, need some urgent help. I have a hard-disk partitioned using GPT scheme. It has a 260GB Win8 partition and unalocated space. I was to resize to Win partition smaller and dual boot ubuntu but Ubuntu sees the entire disk as unallocated space.
[16:20] <vmachine> i think its  a unity desktop issue
[16:21] <fully_human> PrincessLuna: Unfortunately with Windows 8, Micro$oft has burned their own disk image onto the hard drive. You'll have to choose between Windows and Linux.
[16:21] <fully_human> Rather, they've burned their image onto the firmware.
[16:21] <elitenovell> how do i install freebsd
[16:22] <broknbottle> fully_human: I do not believe you are correct
[16:22] <elitenovell> oops wrong chatroom sorry
[16:22] <PrincessLuna> fully_human: I'm pretty sure that is incorrect. Besides its a fresh install of win8 not oem.
[16:22] <nearst> #freebsd
[16:22] <PrincessLuna> fully_human: Its just that my PC can only boot GPT partitioned disks rather than mbr
[16:22] <broknbottle> PrincessLuna: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2088425
[16:22] <OHNO> im getting /etc/saned errors trying to boot ubuntu 12.10 on a foxconn nettop nt-i1200.....any ideas?
[16:22] <elitenovell> icecube been rappin since 84
[16:24] <elitenovell> eat a pig
[16:25] <_T3_> guys, I have a friend from Iran, where facebook is filtered. He uses freegate on windows. What should be a possibility for him on Linux?
[16:25] <DJones> !nickspam | optikx
[16:25] <optikx> sorry i was trying to find my registered nick
[16:25] <optikx> found it
[16:26] <nearst> !apparmor
[16:26] <optikx> ubuntu is a great server too for businesses
[16:26] <faezeh>  on linux system... fi a country has filter facebook exept freegate for windows how can i connect to fb?
[16:26] <faezeh>  nobody know?
[16:26] <optikx> i need some coffee
[16:26] <cschneid> Is there an RSS feed of security updates on 12.04?
[16:27] <ThinkT510> faezeh: is freegate a proxy?
[16:27] <faezeh> yes
[16:28] <ThinkT510> faezeh: then you have your answer
[16:28] <faezeh> for those countrie which has filter fb
[16:28] <faezeh> ?!
[16:28] <yeehaw> _T3_ Tor?
[16:29] <yeehaw> faezeh: Tor?
[16:29] <nearst> !tor | faezeh
[16:29] <_T3_> faezeh, https://www.torproject.org/
[16:29] <vmachine> when i search programs menu it says gsynatec pointing device is installed but i cannot open the program or see anywhere to open it
[16:29] <faezeh> yeah
[16:29] <_T3_> yeehaw, looks pretty good
[16:30] <faezeh>  i konw anonymity
[16:30] <faezeh> i got it
[16:30] <faezeh> tnx all
[16:30] <OHNO> vpn > tor, j/s
[16:31] <thomasthe> Hi all has anyone allready synchronized a outlook and and thunderbird calendar ?
[16:32] <Th0m4s> has someone here installed ubuntu on the nexus 7 ?
[16:33] <W|cKeD> hi i'm plannin to install linux-tools in synaptic package manager, and i tried to check the properties of linux-tools before downloading and went to check the latest version of security, stated 2.6.32-45-102 (lucid-security) is it safe if i'll try to install that thing? i'm runnin ubuntu 10.04 lucid 2.6.32-21-generic
[16:33] <nearst> im install on my blackstone
[16:36] <[4-tea-2]> When I try to start Emacs, Xorg crashes. I think it's self-defense.
[16:37] <PrincessLuna> Hi, how can I dual boot Windows 8 and Ubuntu on a GPT disk. I installed Windows on a partition using Windows setup and it boots fine, but now the Ubuntu installer detects the entire disk as unpartitioned space
[16:38] <holywater> ohio
[16:39] <Gotye_sucks_ball> chris?
[16:39] <Gotye_sucks_ball> where did he go
[16:39] <michyprima> PrincessLuna : you should install both in uefi mode
[16:39] <lolmaus> Please suggest an mc-like SFTP client
[16:39] <PrincessLuna> michyprima: I did
[16:40] <Gotye_sucks_ball> stop
[16:40] <PrincessLuna> michyprima: Well I installed Windows 8 in Uefi mode and Ubuntu does not detect the partition table so I haven't installed it
[16:40] <Gotye_sucks_ball> just stop
[16:41] <W|cKeD> hi i'm plannin to install linux-tools in synaptic package manager, and i tried to check the properties of linux-tools before downloading and went to check the latest version of security, stated 2.6.32-45-102 (lucid-security) is it safe if i'll try to install that thing? i'm runnin ubuntu 10.04 lucid 2.6.32-21-generic
[16:42] <holywater> hi, is anyone knows where i can found Opensource channel?
[16:42] <Yurium> no
[16:42] <michyprima> PrincessLuna: looks very weird to me, are you using raid?
[16:42] <Yurium> maybe in google)))
[16:43] <PrincessLuna> michyprima: No
 maybe in google))
[16:43] <OerHeks> !alis | holywater
[16:43] <holywater> Yurium, :) thanks..but it gives lot of things.. and i am not good in chosing things
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> holywater  type  /msg alis list *opensource*
[16:44] <Yurium> тут есть кто нибуть русскоговорящий?
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[16:44] <OerHeks> !google | Yurim
 ok sorry
[16:45] <michyprima> PrincessLuna: you seem to know what you are doing but I gotta ask. are you really sure you selected the right entry in the bios boot manager (e.g. UEFI: Ubuntu drive) and also what version are you trying to install?12.10?
[16:45] <holywater> thanks
[16:45] <PrincessLuna> michyprima: 12.10
[16:45] <rubtrix> buenas tardes
[16:46] <rubtrix> canal en español?
[16:46] <PrincessLuna> michyprima: Quite sure, it is set to preferentially boot USB, then HDD. I installed win8 using usb and booted a Kubuntu 12.10 live cd
[16:46] <[4-tea-2]> Is there a convenient way to get fresher nvidia drivers? A PPA, perhaps?
[16:46] <debiantoruser> Greetings
[16:46] <debiantoruser> Some body help me with aptitude!
[16:46] <debiantoruser> # aptitude install -f
[16:47] <debiantoruser> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1250 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:47] <k1l_> debiantoruser: under ubuntu (which ubuntu are you using?) use apt-get instead
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> debiantoruser  are you using debian or ubuntu?
[16:47] <debiantoruser> It want to remove all of gnome apps, etc
[16:47] <OerHeks> debiantoruser, on a 64 bit system ?
[16:47] <debiantoruser> MonkeyDust, this question is about ubuntu
[16:48] <michyprima> PrincessLuna: I'm asking because most motherboards prefer legacy boot over uefi by default
[16:48] <debiantoruser> OerHeks, yes 64 bit, but there is no 32bit in this 1250 packages
[16:48] <OerHeks> debiantoruser, do not use aptitude, it is depreciated
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> debiantoruser  use apt-get -f install, so not aptitude
[16:48] <debiantoruser> k1l_, i use ubuntu 12.10, apt-get install -f totally quite
[16:48] <dreamer000> Hello, can someone explain how to get libxml-sax-perl installed on precise?
[16:48] <debiantoruser> quite silent
[16:49] <k1l_> debiantoruser: pastebin the problem , please
[16:49] <debiantoruser> OerHeks, i'm serios, why apt-get install -f don't want todo anything, when aptitude install -f want to remove 1250 packages?
[16:49] <debiantoruser> k1l_, one moment
[16:49] <k1l_> debiantoruser: if you only want to remove the files marked than use apt-get autoremove
[16:49] <OerHeks> debiantoruser, aptitude cannot handle 32 + 64 bit dependencies
[16:49] <OerHeks> !aptitude
[16:50] <jrib> OerHeks: that's been patched in later releases (12.10 should include them)
[16:50] <PrincessLuna> michyprima: Windows refused to install on an MBR partition table and formatted the disk as GPT, which means it must have booted as UEFI
[16:50] <debiantoruser> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/0vL9xufB
[16:51] <OerHeks> jrib good news
[16:51] <debiantoruser> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/VpWLv6RN
[16:51] <debiantoruser> apt-get autoremove wantn't remove anything
[16:52] <OerHeks> debiantoruser, what are  you trying to install ?
[16:52] <debiantoruser> OerHeks, nothing
[16:52] <debiantoruser> i just try to keep system clean
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> debiantoruser  use apt-get -f install, so not aptitude
[16:52] <michyprima> PrincessLuna: perfect then. please then select manually the Ubuntu CD through the boot menu (ESC/F11 usually) and select the voice that reports uefi. maybe your motherboard booted the CD in legacy mode
[16:52] <k1l_> debiantoruser: you have some PPAs on? what did you install? can you show a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[16:52] <debiantoruser> k1l_, no, generic sources.list
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> debiantoruser  post a pastebin of apt-get update
[16:55] <devslash> has anyone found a fix for unity running slow in virtualbox ?
[16:55] <dreamer000> Hello, can someone explain how to get libxml-sax-perl installed on precise?
[16:55] <usr13> devslash: I'd just use another DE
[16:55] <usr13> devslash: sudo apt-get install libxml-sax-perl ?
[16:56] <debiantoruser> MonkeyDustm http://pastebin.com/BvBFR0Nq
[16:56] <dreamer000> usr13: it breaks because of the perl package
[16:56] <usr13> dreamer000: What does it say?
[16:56] <snkcld> how do i prevent ubuntu from loading unity when it boots? i just want it to go to the terminal log in prompt
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> debiantoruser  you have a mix of ubuntu and debian sources
[16:57] <devslash> usr13:  i tried lubuntu but the DE is so plain. reminds me of windows 95
[16:57] <debiantoruser> MonkeyDust, actually no, there are only archive.canonical.com and archive.ubuntu.com
[16:58] <dreamer000> usr13: "perl-base : Kollidiert mit: libxml-sax-perl (< 0.99+dfsg-1ubuntu0.1) aber 0.99+dfsg-1..."
[16:58] <debiantoruser> MonkeyDust, plus extras.ubuntu.com
[16:58] <dreamer000> So i have to backport the newer version?
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> debiantoruser  Preparing to exec: /usr/bin/gpgv /usr/bin/gpgv --ignore-time-conflict --status-fd 3 --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-squeeze-stable.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-wheezy-stable.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-squeeze-automatic.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-wheezy-automatic.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
[16:58] <devslash> usr13: what does libxml have to do with anything ?
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> debiantoruser  wheezy is debian
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> ans squeeze
[17:00] <dreamer000> devslash: wanted to try xmltv
[17:00] <devslash> what do you mean ?
[17:00] <dreamer000> devslash: so I found libxml-sax-perl would break up some things
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> debiantoruser  and it's a mix of i386 and amd64
[17:01] <devslash> what does that have to do with unity ?
[17:01] <debiantoruser> MonkeyDust, copy, thx alot
[17:02] <dreamer000> Anyway would it make sense to take only this if possible from quantal?
[17:03] <usr13> dreamer000: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/paketfehler-nach-upgrade-von-10-04-auf-12-04-l/4/#post-4846402
[17:03] <usr13> devslash: Wrong nick
[17:05] <nearst> !de
[17:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Is -at the Austrian channel?
[17:06] <dreamer000> usr13: No it's a fresh 12.04 install where dist-upgrade does nothing
[17:07] <nomodeset> Hello, I want to do this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1120260
[17:07] <nomodeset> to verify .sig files
[17:07] <nearst> use seahorse?
[17:07] <nomodeset> but i can not edit my own command only ones that appear in a list
[17:08] <nomodeset> yeah,
[17:08] <nomodeset> with $seahorse-tools --verify
[17:08] <usr13> nomodeset: What is your end goal?
[17:08] <nomodeset> but i want to associate this command with .sig files
[17:08] <nomodeset> usr13: i want to associate this command with .sig files
[17:08] <nomodeset> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1120260
[17:09] <nomodeset> .sig files appear as 'unknown'
[17:09] <nomodeset> 12.10
[17:09] <usr13> nomodeset: What is the actual problem you are tying to solve?
[17:10] <usr13> nomodeset: That's what   file name.sig    returns?
[17:10] <vmachine> anyone have a list of the features that will be in ubuntu 13?
[17:10] <debiantoruser> MonkeyDust, http://pastebin.com/7FBEeF3G
[17:10] <debiantoruser> I have the same result
[17:10] <nomodeset> truecrypt-7.1a-linux-x64.tar.gz.sig: data
[17:10] <nomodeset> usr13: data
[17:11] <nearst> u try to debuild package?
[17:11] <nomodeset> but grep 'sig' /etc/mime.types
[17:11] <nomodeset> returns
[17:11] <nearst> nomodeset, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Applications/Seahorse
[17:12] <nomodeset> application/pgp-signature			sig
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> debiantoruser  looks clean, now use apt-get -f install
[17:12] <theadmin> vmachine: Depends mostly on upstream, as for Canonical, they are putting features in as they make them up, so there simply can not be a list.
[17:12] <theadmin> From what I understand anyway
[17:12] <vmachine> ok thanks
[17:12] <debiantoruser> at the end of pastebin output of it
[17:12] <debiantoruser> it is clean
[17:12] <k1l_> debiantoruser: what command is that output from? what ubuntu are you now really on? are you still using aptitude? what PPAs do you have besides the debian ones?
[17:13] <usr13> nomodeset: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man1/gpgv.1.html
[17:13] <debiantoruser> k1l_, it is generic, no ppa, ubuntu 12.10
[17:13] <nomodeset> nearst: yeah i know
[17:13] <k1l_> debiantoruser: "ls -alR /etc/apt/sources.list.d/" pastbin please
[17:14] <nomodeset> nearst: but  i want to associate "$seahorse-tools --verify" with .sig files
[17:14] <nomodeset> what can i do?
[17:14] <debiantoruser> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/XNH90XKZ
[17:15] <toperharrier> what should I uninstall to disable only amazon search results? unity-lens-shopping or amazon webapp? im a bit confused it seems amazon is unity-webapp-common :s
[17:15] <nomodeset> usr13: Yeah, but i don't want to do it at the console every time
[17:17] <usr13> nomodeset: http://onlinedocs.info/ubuntu-12-10-linux-file-properties/
[17:17] <k1l_> debiantoruser: apt-get is fine. i wouldnt count on aptitude
[17:17] <debiantoruser> Is it really depricate?
[17:17] <k1l_> that seems to got confused with your massive PPAs and debian stuff
[17:18] <BluesKaj> !aptitude
[17:18] <nearst> nomodeset, u can do that on thunar as i remember, or edit /etc/mime.types
[17:19] <nomodeset> usr13: I don't get your point
[17:19] <debiantoruser> k1l_, i have no side packages, only quantal, see apt-show-versions -> http://pastebin.com/FrncEC3B
[17:19] <nomodeset> nearst: but
[17:19] <debiantoruser> they are all uptodate
[17:19] <nomodeset> but grep 'sig' /etc/mime.types returns application/pgp-signature sig
[17:19] <theadmin> usr13, nomodeset et al: Gnome developers decided they're the smartest and removed the ability to add custom commands via GUI, it would seem. Suggest manually creating a desktop file and using that.
[17:20] <nomodeset> theadmin: I prefer to think that there was a mistake
[17:20] <ufsu>  ./configure --help outputs this "-bash: ./configure: No such file or directory" ... what do I need to do?
[17:20] <theadmin> ufsu: Get to a directory with a file called "configure".
[17:21] <nomodeset> ufsu: You don't hace a configure file
[17:21] <nomodeset> try $make
[17:21] <ufsu> ok thank you
[17:21] <theadmin> nomodeset: I don't think so... Recently gnome people seem to think that settings confuse users, settings are bad... etc :/
[17:21] <nomodeset> theadmin: I think then, that it was a bad decision
[17:21] <nearst> try README for additional info
[17:22] <nomodeset> theadmin: But then what can i do?
[17:22] <nomodeset> How to add a command to that list
[17:23] <k1l_> debiantoruser: forget aptitude
[17:24] <nomodeset> I've added to alacarte, but it does not appear in the lisst
[17:24] <nascentmind> Hi. When I have small font's I can see a reddish white border on fonts. Is this related to sub pixel rendering?
[17:24] <k1l_> the package it is failing with (libcairo2) is installed as seen with your apt-show list
[17:24] <k1l_> debiantoruser: so run with apt-get and be happy
[17:24] <isaac_1> trolololol
[17:27] <theadmin> nomodeset: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1640037/ - place a .desktop file containing this (minimalistic example, you can add categories, description etc) either in ~/.local/share/applications (your user only) or /usr/share/applications (system-wide) and then it will start appearing in the list.
[17:27] <nomodeset> theadmin: i'm going to try it, thanks.
[17:28] <theadmin> nomodeset: (.desktop as in "verify-sig.desktop" or such, not just a file called .desktop)
[17:29] <nomodeset> theadmin: I'm not stupi
[17:29] <nomodeset> d
[17:29] <nomodeset> theadmin: it does not work
[17:30] <theadmin> nomodeset: I wasn't implying you are stupid, it's just common in UNIX to have folders/files names of which start with a "."...
[17:30] <theadmin> nomodeset: Does not work how? Doesn't appear or doesn't run the command?
[17:30] <debiantoruser> k1l_, what you mean about libcairo2?
[17:30] <nomodeset> does not apper at the list
[17:30] <nomodeset> theadmin: yeah! i know
[17:31] <nomodeset> does not apper in the list
[17:31] <k1l_> debiantoruser: see the errormsg from aptitude at the end
[17:31] <theadmin> nomodeset: Bah, my bad, last line should be NoDisplay=true (lowercase "true", not uppercase)
[17:32] <k1l_> debiantoruser: just drop aptitude and everything is ok
[17:32] <towlie> is there a way to force all windows to display their title bar
[17:32] <debiantoruser> k1l_, i can't, i so love it
[17:32] <towlie> like a traditional app instead of it being hidden until you hover over the top left corner ?
[17:32] <debiantoruser> and, atmost, it is ubuntu way, not a debian
[17:33] <OerHeks> k1l_, jrib said it was fixed, i told debiantoruser not to use aptitude, as he proofs it isn't fixed.
[17:33] <k1l_> debiantoruser: aptitude is not ubuntu way. its not standard anymore
[17:33] <debiantoruser> which package manager is standard?
[17:33] <k1l_> OerHeks: i dont know if its fixed or not. i just see aptitude having massive problems when apt.-get is fine
[17:33] <brad[]> Word.
[17:34] <k1l_> debiantoruser: apt-get and softwarecenter
[17:34] <usr13> debiantoruser: apt
[17:34] <theadmin> towlie: The global menu functionality is provided by the appmenu-gtk, appmenu-qt and indicator-appmenu packages. Removing those will give you the "traditional" mode back.
[17:34] <nomodeset> theadmin: No, it does not appear
[17:34] <jrib> OerHeks: only in 12.10 I believe
[17:34] <debiantoruser> k1l_, i solve it
[17:34] <theadmin> nomodeset: Bah... Okay, well, then I have no idea. Weird really.
[17:35] <debiantoruser> totally clean directories for aptitude and apt /var/lib/apt/ and /var/lib/aptitude, and than reupdate reupgrade, now aptitude install -f give the same as apt-get install -f
[17:35] <debiantoruser> Thax, alot
[17:36] <nearst> try with sudo apt-get install --fix-missing first before -f force
[17:36] <nomodeset> theadmin: that really suck,
[17:36] <Guest74158> hello
[17:36] <Guest74158> please like >>  http://goo.gl/XZHjX
[17:36] <nomodeset> theadmin: Thanks again...
[17:37] <theadmin> nearst: "-f" is not force, it *is* fix-missing...
[17:37] <theadmin> Guest74158: Spam is not welcome here.
[17:37] <nearst> mybad
[17:38] <theadmin> nomodeset: Might want to switch to a desktop environment that does not try to limit it's users in what they can do, like Xfce or KDE
[17:41] <nomodeset> theadmin: But gnome has been like my girlfriend for years :/
[17:41] <Chris7mas> clear
[17:41] <usr13> nomodeset: Ditch her.
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> nomodeset  is that a good or a bad thing?
[17:42] <theadmin> nomodeset: Xfce is very similar to Gnome2 in many ways, in some ways it's even better.
[17:42] <usr13> nomodeset: I use xfce
[17:42] <yashi> im having some issues with skype/mic..(ubuntu 12.04) my mic is working in the (soundsettings tab) and i tried all mic possibilities in skype..non works :(
[17:43] <theadmin> yashi: Unfortunately, that means it's a Skype issue. And Skype is a closed-source product provided and coded by Microsoft, and neither Canonical nor people in this channel can do anything about it :/
[17:44] <usr13> yashi: Try a different version of Skype
[17:44] <usr13> yashi: Or different VIOP solution.
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> yashi  or contact microsoft
[17:45] <usr13> Yea, good luck with that.
[17:46] <yashi> i bet 10 bucks that it ends up to be a linux issue
[17:46] <usr13> (just because they own it, doesn't mean they'll support it, espeically on our platform)
[17:46] <usr13> yashi: Can you hear your voice over the speakers?
[17:47] <yashi> if i select pulse audio as the input source than its up to pulse to deliver the signal
[17:47] <towlie> when I do alt tab to change to a different window, theres a slow fade in effect as the window is displayed. Not sure if this is relevant but I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 in Virtualbox
[17:48] <usr13> yashi: If you think it is a pulse issue, uninstall it and see.
[17:49] <usr13> yashi: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[17:49] <yashi> usr13: i want to use pulse.
[17:49] <towlie> anyone know if theres a fix for this ?
[17:49] <usr13> yashi: Then don't uninstall it.
[17:49] <yashi> usr13: not planning too :P
[17:49] <usr13> It was only advise;  Take it or leave it.
[17:50] <jki> Could anyone tell me, how to get Sierra MC8755 working under Ubuntu 12.10?
[17:50] <stephen_> ahoy
[17:50] <LaserShark> what is youy problem
[17:50] <usr13> (But why would you *not* uninstall it?)  One thing is for sure, if you don't do anything, nothing will get fixed.
[17:50] <stephen_> Anybody know how to setup my webcam for use in vid chats?
[17:50] <stephen_> cheese works so cam is fine btw
[17:52] <yashi> usr13: ah shit... pulse only delivers a merged audiosignal to alsa doesnt it? ><
[17:52] <Guest1925> hey... simple question..... can somebody please tell me how to (using libreoffice calc) for example write black-text-with-white-border in a dark blue cell ?
[17:52] <usr13> yashi: There are a number of things it could be and you could troubleshoot the problem if you want to.
[17:52] <yashi> usr13: im pretty sure i know what it is ><
[17:52] <T_oink> Hello, is there any place where I can see what changes in specific kernel releases? eg what changes from kernel 3.5.0 > 3.6.2 ; Just curious... :-)
[17:52] <coder2> what is the developer channel for ubuntu
[17:52] <theadmin> coder2: #ubuntu-devel
[17:52] <coder2> theadmin, thanku
[17:53] <Pinkamena_D> is their some plugin i can download for handbrake to convert TO ogg/ogv?
[17:53] <theadmin> T_oink: I'm pretty sure there are changelogs on kernel.org, also you can use "apt-get changelog linux-image-generic" and such
[17:53] <T_oink> theadmin, oke thanks i'll take a look in those
[17:54] <usr13> T_oink: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux/
[17:54] <T_oink> usr13, great thanks.
[17:55] <Guest1925> hey... simple question..... can somebody please tell me how to (using libreoffice calc) for example write black-text-with-white-border in a dark blue cell ? (the white border must be around each character)
[17:55] <usr13> T_oink: But what theadmin suggested works as well.
[17:55] <jki> Anyone familiar with Sierra AirCards? Could anyone tell me, how to get Sierra MC8755 working under Ubuntu 12.10?
[17:55] <usr13> T_oink: So you have couple options.
[17:55] <kvarley1> I suspect that my router is causing me to disconnect from games on Wii U. I want to setup my laptop as a wireless access point that defers DHCP to my router, is that possible? How would I go about this?
[17:55] <theadmin> How can I get rid of the "System reboot required" notification? I already removed /var/run/reboot-required*... I just fail to understand what causes this notification to *dis*appear. Existence of /var/run/reboot-required{,.pkgs} makes it appear, but...
[17:56] <T_oink> usr13, the more the merrier or however they say that in English :-) thanks for the tips.
[17:56] <yashi> jki check what chipset that card uses that might help you
[17:57] <MoPac> [12.04 ALT question] Hello, I have a 12.04 alternate install question. I want one LUKS LVM partition, with sub-volumes that will be root and swap. I don't know whether to configure primary as physical volume for LVM, then configure encrypted volumes, or whether to configure it as an encrypted volume, then configure the LVM. Help?
[17:57] <jki> yashi: driver "sierra" recognises it..
[17:57] <param> Lan drivers not detected in ubuntu server ?
[17:57] <usr13> param: Are you sure?  ifconfig -a
[17:57] <happyface> param, how would you know?
[17:57] <jki> yashi: creates the devices ttyUSB0 - 2
[17:57] <param> Ethernet drivers not detected in ubuntu server 12.04
[17:58] <Guest1925> hey... simple question..... can somebody please tell me how to (using libreoffice calc) for example write black-text-with-white-border in a dark blue cell ? (the white border must be around each character) ..... nobody answers me..... maybe i should ask this question at the libreoffice channel?
[17:58] <Guest21789> wwo
[17:58] <param> i used the ping command
[17:58] <Guest21789> wowowo
[17:58] <param> it says unreachable host
[17:58] <usr13> param: To ping ____________?
[17:58] <happyface> param, how are you accessing the server if it has no ethernet?
[17:58] <param> ping to 8.8.8.8
[17:58] <param> google server
[17:58] <yashi> jki: cant really help you. i managed to get a few cards running but finally switched to lan cable, because i was sick of it ioi
[17:58] <param> i have installed ubuntu server on my laptop
[17:59] <theadmin> param: ...You probably just don't have the connection up... "sudo ip link set eth0 up ; sudo dhclient
[17:59] <usr13> param: And that causes you to believe that the ethernet drivers are not detected?
[17:59] <param> yeah i guess ... because when i ping in my windows it shows some connection
[18:00] <zykotick9> theadmin: well, the simple solution would be reboot ;)  good luck.
[18:00] <jki> yashi: I have a separate usb one (huawei), but I'd prefer to get the integrated one working.
[18:00] <theadmin> zykotick9: Eh. That's not really a solution (I mean yes, it makes it dissapear, but I want to do it the crazy way)
[18:00] <yashi> jki: yea makes sense
[18:00] <theadmin> zykotick9: Now I just need to find that crazy way
[18:02] <Guest1925> OK LAST CALL | hey... simple question..... can somebody please tell me how to (using libreoffice calc) for example write black-text-with-white-border in a dark blue cell ? (the white border must be around each character) ..... nobody answers me..... maybe i should ask this question at the libreoffice channel?
[18:02] <yashi> do i have to configure alsa via alsamixer if i use pulse?
[18:02] <Bon-chan> is it possible to test the integrity of ubuntu installed in a usb disk when trying it?
[18:02] <theadmin> Guest1925: What's so hard? Font color -> black, highlight color -> white, background color -> blue
[18:03] <Guest1925> thanks for the attention the admin....... no the thing is the white border must be around each and every character.... you see what i mean?
[18:04] <theadmin> Guest1925: Oh, huh, I don't know if I've ever seen what you're talking about
[18:04] <Guest1925> who knows?
[18:04] <theadmin> Guest1925: Well, as you guessed, the libreoffice channel might be a better place to ask.
[18:05] <Guest1925> is it #libreoffice ?
[18:05] <Guest1925> or is there a specific one for calc ?
[18:05] <theadmin> Guest1925: Nah, the whole suite shares the single channel, so yes, that one
[18:05] <Guest1925> ok thanks.... bye :)
[18:10] <raven_> how to set the default page of apache2?
[18:11] <nomodeset> Bueno muchachos, hora de almorzar!
[18:14] <yashi> ok, i managed to get my mic "working" in skype. but the sound is pretty distorted and bad. besides that i cant manage to get it working via the (pulse) setting :/
[18:16] <yeehaw> raven_: Edit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[18:16] <ncdmr> +
[18:17] <lello_bordello> CIAO A TUTTI
[18:17] <isaias__> hi
[18:17] <WhyBotWhy> Hey, apparently unity --reset has been depreciated, has anyone got any idea what it's been replaced with? (the manpage doesn't say)
[18:17] <lagbox> hello ... any chance vino-server will be fixed ... seems like 2 releases in a row with a malfunctioning vino-server
[18:17] <lagbox> WhyBotWhy, unity --replace
[18:18] <yashi> i think skype takes over the whole soundcard/mic channel...after starting skype once my soundmanager doesnt get a signal anymore o0
[18:18] <WhyBotWhy> Cheers lagbox
[18:18] <WhyBotWhy> wow, that's a lot of error messages =/
[18:18] <lagbox> yikes
[18:19] <theadmin> lagbox: That's not what that does.
[18:19] <WhyBotWhy> has anyone got any idea what might cause 'Fatal: glXQueryExtensionsString is NULL for screen 0'?
[18:19] <lagbox> ah .. it was a guess
[18:20] <theadmin> WhyBotWhy: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ && setsid unity
[18:23] <WhyBotWhy> cheers theadmin
[18:24] <raven_> yeehaw, tnx
[18:27] <raven_> yeehaw, what exactly has to be written to 000-default?
[18:29] <silverone> Hello ! I have a macbook 8,2 and want to install ubuntu 10.12. However i need both GPUs to work. I've found a tutorial to enable EFI to work on 12.04 here: http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/index.html    . But there seems to be very little information on "graphic switching" and i'm not sure on how to switch between both of them. the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Quantal says switching doesn't work. So, how do i set which
[18:29] <silverone> gpu i want to use?
[18:29] <FloodBot1> silverone: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:30] <sonoma_wine> tried loading ubuntu 12.04 from usb drive, got error end_request critical target error, dev sr0, sector 422160, get this for several sectors, any ideas. it worked on previous laptop and previous desktop
[18:30] <nicofs> I can't get my pc to boot from usb key... i get to the menu where i choose the language but then it stalls and i don't know why... any ideas?
[18:31] <sonoma_wine> new build, msi p67a-gd65(B3), i5 quad, nvidia gtx 275
[18:31] <silverone> Hello ! I have a macbook 8,2 and want to install ubuntu 10.12. I need both GPUs to work. I've found a tutorial to enable EFI to work on 12.04 here: http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/index.html .But there seems to be very little information on "graphic switching" and i'm not sure on how to switch between both of them. the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Quantal says switching doesn't work.How do i switch graphics?
[18:32] <ufsu> to have zlib library and headers, what package do I need to install (apt-get install ..)?
[18:32] <joshu> i have 3.2.0-36-generic-pae #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 8 22:01:06 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux can i upgrade to 3.7.7 without issues?
[18:32] <jki> Anyone familiar with Sierra AirCards? Could anyone tell me, how to get Sierra MC8755 working under Ubuntu 12.10?
[18:32] <trism> ufsu: zlib1g-dev
[18:33] <ufsu> trism: thank you
[18:34] <sonoma_wine> my mouse is too sensitive to scroll  and follow using empathy
[18:34] <sonOfRa> So, if my / file system keeps going into read-only, is the file system completely and utterly destroyed, or does it mean that I might have to replace the drive?
[18:35] <sonoma_wine> any ideas how to decrease how much the touchpad scrolls
[18:37] <k1l_> sonOfRa: see dmesg or syslog what is going on there
[18:37] <gabkdlly> sonoma_wine, system settings -> mouse and touchpad
[18:38] <ekhaat> exit
[18:38] <ekhaat> exit
[18:39] <sonOfRa> k1l_ dmesg has lots of IO errors, i.e.:
[18:39] <sonoma_wine> thanks badkdlly
[18:39] <sonOfRa> [  227.056447] Write(10): 2a 00 09 c8 c2 c8 00 00 08 00
[18:39] <sonOfRa> [  227.056453] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 164152008
[18:40] <ufsu> I need to install glib library, is it possible to download it via apt-get install?
[18:40] <nicofs> I need help booting from usb key... after choosing "try out without installing" it stalls... why could that be?
[18:41] <sunka> besoin d aide svp ...
[18:41] <gabkdlly> sonOfRa, Disk Utility will tell you whether your disk is healthy, at least according to SMART
[18:42] <ncdmr> nicofs: check the other consoles for logging if its already available at that stage?
[18:42] <sonOfRa> SMART reads generally healthy except for:
[18:42] <nicofs> ncdmr, nothing there
[18:42] <nicofs> ncdmr, tried F1 to F8
[18:42] <ncdmr> usually logs are sent to f12
[18:43] <sonOfRa> http://pastie.org/6136911
[18:43] <eLobato> problem with unity here
[18:43] <yashi> what exactly is the advantage of pulse vs alsa? just the individual handling of software aka a pcm channel for everyone? o_0
[18:43] <eLobato> there's a memory leak every now and then..
[18:43] <rh1n0> is there a sane way to keep a script from being run on a specific server? we have a 4 server cluster. We had issues with people trying to troubleshoot a problem and in err accidentally starting a specific script. We can only have this script running on a specific server. Its part of our application codebase so i cant easily keep it from being deployed.
[18:43] <eLobato> and it fills all my memory unless i restart it
[18:44] <nicofs> ncdmr, nothing there
[18:44] <hanasaki> ctrl space should bring up the ibus language input right?
[18:44] <ncdmr> rh1n0: use acl or chattr?
[18:44] <joshu> anyone able to comment on upgrading the kernel from 3.2.0-36 to 3.7.7 ubuntu desktop 12.04?
[18:45] <rh1n0> ncdmr never heard of chattr - ill look into that thanks
[18:45] <semi-> rh1n0: have the script check the result of `hostname` and compare it to the known 'right' hostname? not exactly a clean solution, but might work depending on your use case
[18:45] <nicofs> ncdmr, i have this white blinking dash (waiting for prompt) in standard resolution, then it shrinks as the screen goes to native resolution than it freezes...
[18:45] <rh1n0> semi thats actually what i was thinking of doing ;)
[18:45] <semi-> i've done it before for different behavior between my local devel machine and production/staging machines. it feels wrong but it works.
[18:46] <ncdmr> nicofs: in that case, no idea really, never experienced it myself, just thought that hopefully there might already be some logging.
[18:46] <_raven_> how to redirect the default index.htm to foo.htm in apache2?
[18:47] <nicofs> ncdmr, i suspect a driver issue - resolution change happens after kernel load afaik...
[18:47] <yashi> what exactly is the advantage of pulse vs alsa? just the individual handling of software aka a pcm channel for everyone?
[18:47] <CCD_> freenode
[18:47] <OerHeks> !nomodeset | nicofs
[18:48] <shortstraw8> I http://www.techdrivein.com/2012/11/howto-make-netflix-work-ubuntu1204-ubuntu1210-PPA.html for installing for netflix di all the steps and now I try to open it nothing happens. Any Ideas
[18:48] <nep1x> hi
[18:48] <shortstraw8> Sorry running ubuntu 12.04
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> shortstraw8  ppa's are not screened and not supported here
[18:49] <nep1x> I am trying to add an alredy installed tomcat to eclipse as development server. As tomcat's path is on /opt, eclipse is denoting me a permission problem
[18:50] <nep1x> how can I fix it?
[18:50] <nep1x> any idea?
[18:51] <yashi> what exactly is the advantage of pulse vs alsa? just the individual handling of software aka a pcm channel for everyone?
[18:51] <yashi> 19:47 < CCD_> freenode
[18:51] <yashi> ups
[18:52] <yashi> *middle click does not copy. it copy pastes <3*
[18:52] <roger_> I created a new user, add the new user to sudoers by adding this "username ALL=(ALL) ALL" to sudo visudo. How come when new user installs packages from software center he has to enter original users password?
[18:52] <_raven_> how to redirect the default index.htm to foo.htm in apache2?
[18:52] <nicofs> OerHeks, now it stalls without changing resolution...
[18:53] <cliff_> Hey all, I was wondering how I would write my /etc/network/interfaces file on a network that doesn't use NAT
[18:53] <cliff_> So I'll be configuring it for an external IP
[18:54] <roger_> raven: i believe that is done with .htaccess file
[18:54] <roger_> raven: that is more a end user setting as a opposed to a server setting
[18:56] <roger_> raven: http://kb.mediatemple.net/questions/242/How+do+I+redirect+my+site+using+a+.htaccess+file%3F
[18:56] <rh1n0> \q
[18:56] <_raven_> how to redirect the default index.htm to foo.htm in apache2?
[18:56] <roger_> raven: i just answered you
[18:58] <roger_> raven: add "# Provide Specific Index Page (Set the default handler)
[18:58] <roger_> DirectoryIndex index.html" to .htaccess file
[18:59] <roger_> I created a new user, add the new user to sudoers by adding this "username ALL=(ALL) ALL" to sudo visudo. How come when new user installs packages from software center he has to enter original users password?
[18:59] <jpmh> I have recently switched from ubuntu to lubuntu - there is one issue I can not seem to resolve.  Under ubuntu I could click on the voulme icon and it would bring up a screen allowing me to set the volume above 100%.  lubuntu is using alsa and I do not seem to have this.  How do I get this feature back
[18:59] <zykotick9> roger_: a better way to manage user's sudo access, it to add them to the sudo group, logout/login = done.
[19:00] <roger_> zykotick9: ok thanks.. so there's really no benefit to the default group name that is named after users username?
[19:01] <zefuros> hello guys i need big help i dual boot ubuntu 12.10 64bit and windows 8 64bit both efi and now grub doesnt load saying no such device
[19:01] <zykotick9> roger_: not sure what you mean...
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[19:02] <posomodi> Hello
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[19:02] <roger_> zyk0: well all users are put in groups that are named after their username. ie. user "bleh" would by default be put in the "bleh" group
[19:02] <zykotick9> !tab > roger_
[19:02] <CCD_> quit
[19:02] <posomodi> Anybody with some experience using init.d jobs?
[19:03] <zefuros> anyone here can help me?
[19:03] <roger_> zefuros: I'm no pro, but from what research I have done, win8 and dual booting is a headache atm
[19:03] <zykotick9> roger_: don't mess with that.  the user will be in multiple groups, not JUST sudo.  be careful with this, use "useradd USERNAME GROUP" not usermod (or you could land yourself in trouble)
[19:03] <posomodi> I want to run one init.d task AFTER an upstart job is complete
[19:04] <roger_> zykotick9: ok thanks
[19:04] <zefuros> it was fine till yesterday i dont understand there wasnt any force shutdown
[19:05] <auvajs> hi, how to completely remove ubuntu one? I set up bandwith upload to 1kb/s but it's still sending data by 5MB/s which cost me my interent connection :/
[19:05] <zefuros> my grub doesnt load plz help
[19:05] <roger_> zefuros: have you done any searching online?
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> roger_  don't say that
[19:06] <genii-around> zefuros: At what point does it fail?
[19:06] <roger_> MonkeyDust: I simply want to make sure I don't waste his time by giving him links he may have already seen
[19:06] <_raven_> how to redirect the default index.htm to foo.htm in apache2?
[19:07] <zefuros> genii-around it was fine till yesterday i dualboot ubuntu 12.10 64b and windows 8 64b efi and now i open and it says error no such device
[19:09] <roger_> zefuros: when did you install it?
[19:09] <genii-around> zefuros: Ah. Unfortunately I do not yet know enough about EFI/UEFI to be of assistance. But there may be someone around who knows.
[19:10] <zefuros> roger_: the windows 8 are onstalled many months i updated from 7 and two days before i installed ubuntu
[19:11] <cliff_> I'm running 13 external static IPs on my network, and I'm trying to configure ubuntu server 12.10 to use one of those IPs.  How would I do this?
[19:12] <roger_> zefuros: I guess what I'm asking is; are you sure you've done an actual successful reboot since installing both win8 and ubuntu?
[19:13] <guest1437> cliff_, etc hosts?
[19:14] <zefuros> roger_: yes i done many succesfull reboots
[19:14] <linuxdude> Hola
[19:14] <guest1437> hola amigo
[19:14] <guest1437> :-)
[19:14] <Y05H10> Hey there, i came back from work and Discovered that i can't Boot into ubuntu anymore i get a constant "_" Letter in The Upper left corner . I have a SSD which is my Root and a HDD as home. Non UEFI Board, 12.10 64Bit. Made a normal Upgrade After i shutted it Down in The nicht
[19:15] <linuxdude> Is there any reason why the network manager doesn't have a refresh button?
[19:15] <Y05H10> But i do See The grub Menu (Dual Boot)
[19:15] <guest1437> linuxdude, somebody stole it?
[19:16] <roger_> zefuros: Yeah man I'm sorry.  UEFI is just so new.. Its a gongshow right now online.
[19:16] <guest1437> linuxdude, WICD
[19:17] <linuxdude> I was just looking at WICD
[19:17] <hdon> hi all :) i'm using evolution mail client. when i send mail, a copy is not saved in the folder specified in my account preferences. any advice would be greatly appreciated :)
[19:17] <Y05H10> No, i dont have UEFI
[19:17] <guest1437> linuxdude, command line iwconfig
[19:17] <roger_> zefuros: I just don't know enough about it to confidently give any troubleshooting steps
[19:18] <linuxdude> Is it to hard to just write in a refresh button in network manager?
[19:18] <Y05H10> >non EUMM
[19:18] <linuxdude> I usually use iwlist scanning but wtf
[19:18] <Y05H10> >NON UEFI< I have a normal board
[19:18] <zefuros> roger_: do you know any basic steps to restore grub?
[19:18] <bean__> !grub | zefuros
[19:19] <Y05H10> Yeah i Tried to purge and install grub
[19:19] <residentbiscuit> Anyone install mint 14 in VMWare?
[19:19] <guest1437> linuxdude, settings network?
[19:19] <k1l_> !mint | residentbiscuit
[19:19] <ufsu> what is the package name for GNU gettex library?
[19:20] <eni> where do you put applications to be started on startup
[19:20] <eni> ?
[19:20] <residentbiscuit> Hmm, I thought Mint was a derivative of debian and ubuntu
[19:20] <k1l_> residentbiscuit: it is. but support is only at their place
[19:20] <guest1437> eni right upper corner - button apps run at start
[19:20] <Fuzzles> if installed ubuntu 13.04 side by side with 12.10 how would i remove ubuntu 13.04 and fix the bootgrub?
[19:20] <roger_> zefuros: sorry man, I'm a linux newb. I'd search online myself
[19:20] <linuxdude> No, i wish i could code. I just want a wifi refresh button
[19:21] <eni> guest1437: what file/config etc?
[19:21] <residentbiscuit> ah cool thanks
[19:21] <eni> guest1437: what do you men by right upper corner?
[19:21] <guest1437> eni do u have gnome? kde? unitiy?
[19:21] <guest1437> eni terminal?
[19:21] <eni> guest1437: terminal.
[19:21] <k1l_> ufsu: you mean gettext?
[19:22] <k1l_> !gettext | ufsu
[19:22] <Ziber> So, uh, I have a weird issue on my server. http://pastebin.com/n2g0GUCe
[19:22] <linuxdude> Anyone in herr from Florida?
[19:23] <k1l_> !info gettext
[19:23] <linuxdude> Here*
[19:23] <k1l_> linuxdude: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for non support chatting
[19:23] <salvatore> hi
[19:24] <MannerMan> Hello, I have some issues with Ubuntu Server 12.04 on my 60 gb SSD
[19:24] <salvatore> #ubuntu-server
[19:24] <nicofs> Can someone help me booting from usb? it just won't work and i don't know why...
[19:24] <MannerMan> okey
[19:24] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:25] <salvatore> I have a problem with skype: notifications work, but without sound. Why? How can I solve it?
[19:27] <guest1437> eni have u tried etc/rc.d scripts?
[19:27] <mathias__> Hi, I just recently janked out my external sound card, but now ubuntu doesn't show me any sound cards at all (i can see the HDMI sound output from my gfx-card though)
[19:27] <eni> guest1437: yea just did that
[19:27] <eni> thanks
[19:28] <eni> guest1437: /etc/init.d/ to be precise
[19:28] <guest1437> eni you re welcome
[19:28] <guest1437> :-)
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> salvatore  do you have sound with other apps?
[19:29] <zefuros> roger_: dude i cant boot from usb it says  : unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[19:29] <salvatore> yes MonkeyDust, Amarok works, flash works, even skype works (calls work)
[19:29] <kostkon> salvatore, check the alert volume in your sound preferences
[19:29] <mathias__> Hi, I just recently janked out my external sound card, but now ubuntu doesn't show me any sound cards at all (i can see the HDMI sound output from my gfx-card though)
[19:30] <kostkon> salvatore, in the sound effects tab
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> salvatore  skype is a 3rd party app, by another developper and closed source
[19:30] <kostkon> MonkeyDust, so?
[19:30] <zefuros> anyone can help. me? grub doesnt show up and i cant boot from live usb
[19:30] <kostkon> MonkeyDust, another developer?
[19:31] <STMelon> microsoft owns skype, it is not open-source
[19:31] <salvatore> yeah, I know that
[19:32] <g16> Trying to mount a LessFS, but mount | grep less prints nothing. Why?
[19:33] <Sharyari> Hi, I have a problem with mounting my udb-stick. It used to be working fine, but now all of a sudden I only have /dev/sdb as an option (and now /dev/sdb1 partition). Any way I can repartition it or something?
[19:35] <acerbus> Is there a way to escape a digit in regex? I keep getting invalid back reference because I'm doing ie. \123456. Hard to work around it as the input to my regex is random.
[19:36] <jrib> acerbus: why are you escaping a digit?
[19:36] <jrib> acerbus: just do "123456"
[19:37] <acerbus> jrib: I need to, because the input may also be "." instead of "123456"
[19:37] <raub> How does a proper shutdown look in the syslog file?
[19:37] <_raven_> how to redirect the default index.htm to foo.htm in apache2?
[19:38] <jrib> acerbus: you should take a step back and say what you are trying to accomplish
[19:39] <acerbus> jrib: Been doing that for quite a while now. The problem is that I have a set of data that is pretty randomly consisting of alphanumerics, digits and certain characters regex interprets as special. Because of the characters, I must escape it, but since I am escaping it, digits cause problems.
[19:39] <jrib> acerbus: give an example
[19:40] <XtremeWiz> Hi, how do uninstall/stop oidentd?
[19:40] <avi> hey i need help
[19:41] <acerbus> jrib: I have a file containing three lines; "abcd", ".abcd" and "123456". I'm iterating over the file and I do not know the content of it with certainty beforehand. As I am iterating, I put the line into a regex for matching. If I do not escape the pattern, "abcd" and "123456" works without problems, but ".abcd" becomes a problem because of the leading ".".
[19:42] <acerbus> But if I do escape it, "abcd" and ".abcd" works fine, but "123456" doesn't.
[19:43] <jrib> acerbus: well do you actually want a regex then?  Or do you just want to match the string literally?
[19:43] <GermainZ> Hey, I can't adjust screen brightness (it's always locked to the max) (tried via hotkeys, system settings and shell commands). Any suggestions?
[19:43] <acerbus> jrib: I need a regex because I am matching one set of variable data against another set of variable data.
[19:43] <zefuros> please help me i must restore grub and i cant even boot my live usb
[19:44] <tgm4883> acerbus, what does your regex look like?
[19:45] <g16> Why you're not just checking whether the string is contained? e.g. Bash has operator =~ and perl has index($str, $substr) and almost any language has a specific construct
[19:45] <acerbus> tgm4883: "^.+;.+;.+;\\"$indata";" blahblah
[19:46] <acerbus> Where $indata can be just about any character or digit.
[19:49] <acerbus> The full line is: for indata in $(cat file1.txt | awk -F"/" '{print $2}'); do egrep "^.+;.+;.+;\\"$indata";" file2.txt; done
[19:49] <acerbus> Where file1.txt is full of all kinds of abominations.
[19:52] <jrib> acerbus: you could just extract what would be in the place of $indata in file2.txt and then see if that is the same as $indata from file1.txt.  That would be one way.  You could escape special characters if you want too and keep your solution, but that seems more annoying.  #bash might have more suggestions
[19:53] <zefuros> please some help , i cant load grub and i cant get my liveusb to boot to restore it
[19:53] <acerbus> Alright, cheers.
[19:54] <usr13> zefuros: Why won'
[19:54] <usr13> zefuros: Why won't your liveUSB boot?
[19:54] <tgm4883> acerbus, yea, I'd have to see some example data to try and help.
[19:54] <nullv4lue> oh no grub has eaten my kernel
[19:54] <tgm4883> acerbus, minimally, what i'd need to know what would be considered valid
[19:55] <zefuros> usr13: it says cant find live systemfile something like that want me to try again and tell you?
[19:56] <hxm> hello
[19:56] <g16> acerbus: echo "we.+ird" | grep -P "\\Qwe.+ird\\E"
[19:56] <usr13> zefuros: I believe you're going to need to fix the liveUSB
[19:56] <hxm> can nano show line numbers?
[19:56] <g16> Perl's \Q and \E escape the content between them.
[19:56] <acerbus> tgm4883: Example data would be pretty much any string, ie. "abcd", ".abcd"" "-ABC123", "123456", "987-ABC" etc. A valid string would be "a;a;123;<string>;<anything>"
[19:56] <tgm4883> hxm, http://askubuntu.com/questions/73444/how-to-show-line-numbering-in-nano-when-opening-a-file
[19:56] <zefuros> usr13: are you expirienced with booting issues on a dual boot system?
[19:57] <hxm> thanks
[19:57] <Bon-chan> does restricted extras pack have something to do with fluendo? like, can i work out only with restricted extras?
[19:57] <GermainZ> zefuros, did you check your BIOS settings? Try raising USB boot priority. Also, on some systems, you need to press a button (e.g. F12) to boot from DVD/USB/Network.
[19:58] <tgm4883> acerbus, valid data would be "<loweralpha><loweralpha><number><number><number><everythingelse>"?
[19:58] <nicofs> Someone expert on USB boot issues? I can't install from usb... even adjusted to EFI and with nomodeset
[19:58] <tgm4883> acerbus, and it's having issues when the data is  "<period><loweralpha><loweralpha><number><number><number><everythingelse>"?
[19:59] <acerbus> tgm4883: "<anyalpha variable length>;<anyalpha variable length>;<digit variable length>;$myrandomdatathatisabitchtoescape;<everything else>"
[19:59] <usr13> zefuros: Yes
[20:01] <acerbus> g16's suggestion seems to be working, though
[20:02] <guntbert> nullv4lue: why do you think so? What happened?
[20:02] <F3Speech> Need help installing a hp lazerjet 1200 via a usb to serial adaptor using ubuntu server cli and cups! Currently Ive had it print a test page but network users couldnt print now I cant even see the printer. Any takers?
[20:03] <nullv4lue> eerm can you rephrase the question
[20:03] <nullv4lue> what happened to what?
[20:03] <F3Speech> need help adding printer?
[20:04] <jrib> g16: nice
[20:04] <nullv4lue> ooh grub keeps eating my windblows
[20:04] <guntbert> nullv4lue: you said "grub has eaten my kernel", I asked what made you say that
[20:04] <nullv4lue> kernel not found
[20:04] <F3Speech> nullv4lue: Ive no idea tbh, it was working 99% but ive clearly changed something because now its not visible on the lan
[20:04] <nullv4lue> i suspect grub did something with it
[20:05] <guntbert> !who | nullv4lue
[20:05] <nullv4lue> ignoring ubottu
[20:06] <nullv4lue> im gonna delete ubuntu and install windows 8 anyone knows where to get a copy of tht
[20:06] <peterrooney> nullv4lue: you shall be the lesser for it.
[20:06] <nullv4lue> ??
[20:06] <genii-around> nullv4lue: They might know in ##windows channel
[20:06] <nullv4lue> hmm
[20:06] <DJones> nullv4lue: Most computer shops will sell you a copy
[20:06] <k1l_> nullv4lue: no need for ranting. stick to the technical issue please
[20:07] <guntbert> nullv4lue: please keep to ubuntu support, no "funny" remarks
[20:07] <nullv4lue> oh you are so helpful bunch
[20:07] <nullv4lue> where is the fun in tht
[20:07] <nullv4lue> why so serious.....?
[20:07] <GermainZ> nullv4lue, "#ubuntu"
[20:07] <STMelon> this is a support channel.
[20:07] <DJones> !guidelines > nullv4lue
[20:07] <nullv4lue> sorry honest mistake
[20:07] <nullv4lue> i shall not speak
[20:08] <hxm> yes, where is the fun in "gonna install win8"
[20:08] <Deas> anyone familiure to dd-wrt and usb printing share?
[20:08] <nullv4lue> heh
[20:08] <tgm4883> acerbus, and your regex was failing when the random data started with a period?
[20:08] <k1l_> Deas: that sounds like a dd-wrt issue :) beeter see their support
[20:08] <genii-around> Heh, my plan was to just send the guy asking if we know where he can get a copy of Windows 8 to the ##windows channel and then quietly observe...
[20:08] <avi> hey i need help linux back track  thing about wifi anyone ?
[20:08]  * nullv4lue tells ubottu to shove guidelines up where the sun dont shine
[20:08] <xangua> !backtrack | avi
[20:09] <STMelon> ohh he left good
[20:09] <acerbus> tgm4883: No, with a digit because it interpreted the escaped digit as a back reference.
[20:09] <Deas> k1l_: just checking with people over here, im already thier irc awaiting answer
[20:09] <avi> thanks mate
[20:09] <acerbus> tgm4883: So "1234" became "\1234" which is a reference.
[20:09] <k1l_> Deas: keep this channel here to ubuntu support please, thanks
[20:09] <avi> cant in there strange
[20:09] <avi> Cannot join #backtrack-linux (You are banned).
[20:10] <k1l_> avi: ask in #freenode why and what to do
[20:10] <DJones> avi: You'll have to take that up with the backtrack-linux channel ops
[20:10] <k1l_> avi: (related to problems with channels here on freenode)
[20:10] <avi> ok
[20:12] <STMelon> thx DJones
[20:12] <tgm4883> acerbus, would something like this work    ^[A-Za-z]+;[A-Za-z]+;[0-9]+;[A-Za-z0-9\.\\]+;.+
[20:12] <DJones> I got the wrong one
[20:12] <acerbus> Okay, I think I got it, thanks g16! The final grep now looks like this:  grep -P "^[^;]+;[^;]+;[^;]+;\\Q"$indata"\\E;"
[20:13] <Abuespapam> t
[20:13] <Evansch0> how do you make ubuntu  faster
[20:13] <Evansch0> :)
[20:14] <k1l_> !rootirc > Abuespapam
[20:14] <roger_> Evansch0: I had to disable effects
[20:14] <Evansch0> ?
[20:14] <Evansch0> roger_: how do you do that?
[20:15] <mathias__> Hello, ubuntu doesn't recongnize my internal sound card
[20:15] <mathias__> it's a ALC892 chipset
[20:15] <mathias__> from Realtek
[20:15] <mathias__> hence, I have no sound
[20:15] <roger_> Evansch0: let me find a link for yo
[20:16] <Evansch0> roger_: thanks man
[20:16] <usr13> mathias__: alsamixer
[20:16] <mathias__> usr13: yes, it's not there
[20:16] <mathias__> at all
[20:16] <mathias__> lspci doesn't show it either
[20:16] <wiggmpk> 55GB should be plenty for my root partition right? I mean I shouldnt be getting low disk space warnings.. right?
[20:16] <g16> acerbus: glad to help!! But thinking more about it, I think that jrib's suggestion would read and prolly perform better, a one-liner like     uniq <$(cat file1.txt | awk | sort) <$(cat file1.txt | awk | sort)
[20:16] <mathias__> aplay -l doesn't see it either
[20:16] <usr13> mathias__: On-board?
[20:17] <mathias__> usr13: on-board yes
[20:17] <g16> Glad that it works, anyway.
[20:17] <roger_> Evansch0: http://www.itworld.com/software/306674/disable-visual-effects-make-ubuntu-1210-faster
[20:17] <usr13> mathias__: Check the bios settings to see that it is not disabled.
[20:17] <acerbus> g16: Thanks mate. Doesn't need to be particularly beautiful or efficient, this is a one shot thing (I hope).
[20:17] <mathias__> usr13: will do, sec
[20:17] <bulletrulz> hello how to make it so i use the unity greeter on xubuntu 12.10?
[20:17] <Evansch0> roger_: THANKS
[20:17] <guntbert> wiggmpk: show us the output of   df -h in a !pastebin please
[20:17] <GermainZ> I can't adjust screen brightness (it's always locked to the max) (tried via hotkeys, system settings and shell commands). Any suggestions?
[20:18] <Evansch0> roger_: i shall tell you if it works
[20:18] <roger_> Evansch0: then there is also this(which was located on that previous link); http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/06/11-tips-to-speed-up-computers-running.html
[20:18] <wiggmpk> guntbert: 47GB's worth of logs would do it I guess
[20:18] <F3Speech> Need help installing a HP Laserjet 1200 via a usb to serial adaptor using ubuntu server cli and cups cli or web interface! Currently Ive had it print a test page but network users couldnt print so I tweaked and now I cant even see the printer. Could really use a hand to point the way...
[20:19] <guntbert> wiggmpk: do you need help or do you just want to chat?
[20:19] <usr13> F3Speech: firefox localhost:631
[20:19] <F3Speech> usr13: web interface works well
[20:19] <wiggmpk> guntbert: I thought I did, might still need help.. but it looks like my logs are growing out of control
[20:20] <F3Speech> usr13: its currently saing an unknown printer is attached locally, previous it was correctly showing the hp connected.
[20:20] <guntbert> wiggmpk: that looks like maybe logrotate didn't get told about all logs
[20:21] <wiggmpk> guntbert: how can I safely remove all the logs and kinda start over logging, if that makes sense
[20:21] <k1l_> wiggmpk: maybe something is just spamming errors?
[20:21] <wiggmpk> k1l_: thats a lot of spam for overnight
[20:22] <k1l_> wiggmpk: did you take a look? maybe there is some hdd failure causing that?
[20:22] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: What log file is so full? Try 'du -shx /var/log/* | sort -rn | grep G'
[20:22] <F3Speech> usr13: any advice?
[20:23] <usr13> F3Speech: Modify Printer
[20:23] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: ufw.log and kern.log are at 16G each, guess I could scale down the firewall logging
[20:24] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: syslog is pretty big too
[20:24] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: Can you look what kind of errors they give? 'tail -f /var/log/syslog'
[20:24] <g16> wiggmpk: there's an application called logrotate, maybe it could help you
[20:25] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: syslog looks liek a bunch of UFW audits
[20:25] <F3Speech> usr13: with the greatest respect I'm looking for a little more detail, the printer isnt added because its unknown so I can moodift printer
[20:25] <wiggmpk> g16: not too familiar with logrotate, im still a newbie
[20:25] <F3Speech> usr13: *cant modify it*
[20:25] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: Did you configure anything different for the ufw?
[20:26] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: i might have FULL logging on
[20:26] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: ROFL
[20:26] <sirdotalus> can anyone tell me if there is an analytics program that scans my computer for any packages installed beyond the basic operating system install
[20:26] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: yeah... lol probably isnt good when your downloading a torrent overnight
[20:26] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: You might wanna turn that off as soon as possible
[20:26] <g16> sirdotalus: dpkg -l
[20:26] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: how can I remove these logs safely?
[20:26] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: Try to log only dropped
[20:27] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: First change the setting, then run logrotate -F /etc/logrotate.conf
[20:27] <usr13> F3Speech: Add Printer
[20:27] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: Oh and reload /restart ufw
[20:27] <sirdotalus> thank you g16
[20:28] <g16> sorry sirdotalus, it's dpkg —get-selections actually
[20:28] <KGB_Spirtnoye> i hate you
[20:28] <KGB_Spirtnoye> all of you
[20:28] <KGB_Spirtnoye> SAIL HATAN!
[20:28] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: cant even open gufw =(
[20:28] <guntbert> KGB_Spirtnoye: STOP
[20:28] <F3Speech> usr13: Thanks... anyone else familiar with cups?
[20:28] <sirdotalus> now i must ask if you have a command to remove all of those packages. i am attempting to bring my system back to the point where it is a fresh install but without having to re-download the install iso and make a new install usb
[20:29] <usr13> F3Speech: Under Printers, are there any printers listed?
[20:29] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: Lol, try 'sudo service ufw stop' and then 'logrotate -F /etc/logrotate.conf'
[20:29] <F3Speech> no
[20:29] <usr13> F3Speech: If not, go to Administration tab and click "Add Printer"
[20:29] <llutz> sirdotalus: that commands list ALL installed packages, there is no easy way to get a list of packages installed after basic setup
[20:29] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: I got it, I feel like such a tool lol, I just deleted a smaller log to give me enough to operate with
[20:30] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: Then edit the setting via gufw and start ufw again
[20:30] <sirdotalus> thank you luts
[20:30] <sirdotalus> lutz
[20:30] <F3Speech> usr13: ok saying nothing to add locally
[20:30] <k1l_> !guidelines > KGB_Spirtnoye
[20:30] <sirdotalus> i guess i am doing a system reinstall of my os
[20:30] <sirdotalus> i appreciate the help guys
[20:30] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: in the interest of learning, what exactly does "logrotate -F /etc/logrotate.conf" do?
[20:31] <usr13> F3Speech: Unplug the printer from existing USB port and plug into another.
[20:31] <KGB_Spirtnoye> nmap
[20:31] <sirdotalus> one more question. is your handle llutz a refrence to the classic phantasy star games or am i just a crazy person
[20:31] <tgm4883> sirdotalus, is something broken?
[20:31] <KGB_Spirtnoye> For the LULZ
[20:31] <guntbert> wiggmpk: logrotate is a tool that compresses/deletes old log files
[20:31] <k1l_> KGB_Spirtnoye: last warning. keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. thank you
[20:31] <F3Speech> usr13: ok saying unknown under local printers now
[20:31] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: It runs logrotate with the configuration found in /etc/logrotate.conf, which usally also includes the config in /etc/logrotate.d/. In /etc/logrotate.d/ is defined how each service should be rotated, eg how many files should be kept and if compression should be used
[20:31] <guntbert> wiggmpk: normally it runs daily
[20:32] <F3Speech> usr13: cancle that its gone again
[20:32] <usr13> F3Speech: Is the printer powered up?
[20:32] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: I get a bad argument -F: unknown error
[20:32] <sirdotalus> tgm yes i have been experiencing internal errors but it is not a big issue because this os is fairly new and i have a usb back up of my snes games and the very few text files i want to save
[20:32] <F3Speech> usr13: yes
[20:32] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: Basically logrotate will move the logfile to logfile.1 and the day after to logfile.2.gz in default behavior
[20:32] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: -f sorry
[20:32] <tgm4883> guntbert, probably still is running daily, but those logs he listed as large get rotated weekly
[20:32] <sirdotalus> i just didnt want to do a re install because the download takes forever.
[20:32] <KGB_Spirtnoye> -p will specify the port on nmap
[20:33] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: now if I manually deleted logs in the past, would it screw up logrotate?
[20:33] <KGB_Spirtnoye> did you know that nmap has over 468 pages of help and that still doesn't even cover all of it?
[20:33] <tgm4883> sirdotalus, 12.04?
[20:33] <guntbert> tgm4883: I suspect he somehow stopped it or the services were not handled properly - I have seen both things happen :)
[20:33] <sirdotalus> i jsut got this computer two weeks ago and ive had ubuntu on it for like 4 or 5 days so...
[20:33] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: Nope, logrotate would not care.
[20:33] <KGB_Spirtnoye> armitage will enable you to pentest your neighbors.
[20:33] <odyssey4me> This is driving me nuts - I'm getting "can't read superblock" on a new xfs partition, with "XFS (sdae1): last sector read failed" in dmesg. I've tried removing the partition and recreating it. Any idea what else I can do?
[20:33] <sirdotalus> yes 12.4 its just because i was having problems installing the game nethack.
[20:34] <F3Speech> usr13: printer usb shows up as "Bus 007 Device 003: ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port" from lsusb
[20:34] <tgm4883> sirdotalus, this might help  http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/precise/daily-live/20130210/precise-desktop-amd64.manifest
[20:34] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: It works with what it finds, if it's not there then it does not rotate it
[20:34] <usr13> F3Speech: Configure it.
[20:34] <usr13> F3Speech: Open a terminal, type lpq, hit enter.  What does it say?
[20:34] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: kk, should this be an immediate change? cause im still at 90% disk space used
[20:34] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: Run it again pls
[20:34] <sirdotalus> but like i said its not a big deal i dont have much personal info on this  computer and its already backed up to a usb drive
[20:35] <yeehaw> First it only renames to .1 , the second time it moves the .1 file, gzips it and calls it .2.gz
[20:35] <F3Speech> usr13: lpq cannt be found
[20:35] <sirdotalus> i am already torrenting the install iso from the ubuntu webpage. thank you for your help tgm i will look into your website
[20:35] <F3Speech> usr13: lpr or lprng available
[20:35] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: lol disk space going in the wrong direction *pulls hair out*
[20:35] <tgm4883> yeehaw, I wouldn't think that would depend on how many times it is run, it should be based on date
[20:36] <tgm4883> yeehaw, and really, he could just gzip the log file himself (or even rm it)
[20:36] <yeehaw> tgm4883: Hmm, I have had succes in the past by running it twice :P
[20:36] <usr13> F3Speech: lsb_release -r
[20:36] <usr13> F3Speech: What does that say?
[20:36] <wiggmpk> tgm4883: at this point I'd rather remove all logs and start over and just keep an eye on it
[20:37] <F3Speech> usr13: 12.04
[20:37] <Evansch0> roger_: thanks it is working very very well
[20:37] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: Did you stop ufw yet?
[20:37] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: Or edited the config?
[20:37] <roger_> Evansch0: yw
[20:37] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: yeah, and turned off logging
[20:37] <Evansch0> :D
[20:37] <tgm4883> wiggmpk, which log files are super large?
[20:37] <usr13> F3Speech: sudo apt-get install cups
[20:37] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: Ok, if I'm not mistaken you should have some pretty big .1 logs now
[20:37] <roger_> Evansch0: yeah in the end I ended up uninstalling ubuntu and installing xubuntu
[20:37] <wiggmpk> tgm4883: ufw.log, kern.log, and syslog
[20:37] <F3Speech> usr13: its already installed
[20:38] <Evansch0> i am using Pantheon
[20:38] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: ok just got back another 20% of disk space after the command finished
[20:38] <tgm4883> wiggmpk, personally, i'd do some work to keep the last 1000 lines of those files, but you can probably just rm them
[20:38] <Evansch0> roger_: i am using Pantheon
[20:38] <Evansch0> there i forgot to use that :P
[20:39] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: tgm4883: I would do a reboot after that, since the files probably won't be deleted while in use
[20:39] <usr13> F3Speech: sudo apt-get install cups-bsd
[20:39] <wiggmpk> tgm4883: is there any chance of potentially breaking my system if I run sudo rm -rf /var/log/* ??
[20:39] <tgm4883> wiggmpk, sudo tail -n 1000 /var/log/syslog > /var/log/syslog.tmp && sudo mv /var/log/syslog.tmp /var/log/syslog
[20:39] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: Don't do that
[20:39] <tgm4883> wiggmpk, system, probably not. But don't do that
[20:39] <yeehaw> Do what tgm4883 said
[20:40] <Evansch0> roger_: the desktop kinda looks like its a mac
[20:40] <tgm4883> wiggmpk, there is probably other software that won't like not having a log file
[20:40] <roger_> Evansch0: cool thanks.. I'll have to check it out
[20:40] <Evansch0> roger_: but .... its still under developement thought i should tell ya :D
[20:40]  * tgm4883 lunch
[20:41] <pawleeq> hello
[20:41] <Evansch0> hi
[20:41] <usr13> F3Speech: sudo apt-get install cups-client cups-common cups-ppdc
[20:41] <profiler1982> is it possible to install 13.04 via wubi
[20:41] <wiggmpk> tgm4883: permission denied /var/log/syslog.tmp
[20:41] <wiggmpk> tgm4883: with sudo
[20:41] <pawleeq> I need to estabilish a a connection with a live CD in distatn location, is that possible?
[20:41] <Evansch0> who has a processor that runs faster than 2.0 Ghz
[20:41]  * Evansch0 raises his hand 
[20:42] <usr13> pawleeq: Probably.  What kind of connection?  ssh?
[20:42] <xangua> !13.04 | profiler1982
[20:42] <HfE2000> \bye
[20:42] <g16> wiggmpk:  replace "   > /var/log/syslog.tmp   " with "  | tee /var/log/syslog.tmp  "
[20:42] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: Yes with sudo. And don't use rm -rf, but rather rm -r. -f removes al questions and if you make a mistake you have a problem
[20:42] <joshu> can someone explain how to upgrade the kernel using this http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.7.7-raring/
[20:42] <pawleeq> usr13, ssh might be
[20:42] <Evansch0> no one else?
[20:42] <profiler1982> yes 13.04
[20:42] <k1l> !who | Evansch0
[20:42] <g16> wiggmpk: sorry, sudo tee
[20:42] <Evansch0> no just everyone :D
[20:43] <k1l> Evansch0: do you have a support issue?
[20:43] <Evansch0> nope :)
[20:43] <xangua> joshu you should use the kernel provided by official ubuntu repositories
[20:43] <Evansch0> just asking :)
[20:43] <joshu> xangua how do you mean?
[20:43] <profiler1982> tnx
[20:43] <Evansch0> for no particular reason o.o
[20:43] <wiggmpk> g16: so this "sudo tail -n 1000 /var/log/syslog |tee /var/log/syslog.tmp && sudo mv /var/log/syslog.tmp /var/log/syslog"
[20:43] <k1l> Evansch0: than please keep this channel clear for the support issues. we have the #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting
[20:43] <GermainZ> I can't adjust screen brightness (it's always locked to the max) (tried via hotkeys, system settings and shell commands). Any suggestions?
[20:43] <wiggmpk> g16: so this "sudo tail -n 1000 /var/log/syslog | tee /var/log/syslog.tmp && sudo mv /var/log/syslog.tmp /var/log/syslog"
[20:44] <g16> wiggmpk: sudo tee
[20:44] <pawleeq> usr13, I need to connect 12.04 Live CD running on static IP address (if this info helps you)
[20:44] <wiggmpk> g16: done
[20:44] <yeehaw> GermainZ: What GPU do you have and do you boot with UEFI?
[20:45] <GermainZ> GT540M (tried both proprietary drivers and open source), no UEFI.
[20:45] <wiggmpk> g16: and im assuming i can do the same for ufw.log and kern.log?
[20:46] <yeehaw> GermainZ: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139796/cannot-adjust-brightness-on-my-packard-bell-easynote-ts11hr-127ge-laptop
[20:46] <GermainZ> yeehaw, I think I tried that. I'll try again, tho. Thanks.
[20:46] <g16> wiggmpk: yeah, tee is just like > with the only difference being: > belongs to Bash which was not run as sudo
[20:47] <wiggmpk> g16: yeehaw: tgm4883: thanks for your help, I really appreciate it =)
[20:47] <g16> and of course, the other being it pollutes the terminal.
[20:47] <g16> :p
[20:47] <joshu> xangua the reason I asked about updating the kernel is because I'm unable to get my huawei usb modem working and someone suggested that i update the kernel
[20:47] <yeehaw> g16: Can you elaborate on that?
[20:47] <g16> tee writes to stdout and file
[20:48] <usr13> pawleeq: You have to install openssh-server  See:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHLiveCD
[20:48] <g16> so 1000 lines will cover the commands and error messages, which is not nice.
[20:49] <yeehaw> g16: But you told him to use tee instead of >, while tee goes to both stdout and file?
[20:49] <yeehaw> g16: Is that not more polluting then only > or >> ?
[20:49] <seferis> hello. So, I've just installed xchat on 12.4 LTS... how do I start this program from the command line? I don't want to put stuffs on the launcher...
[20:50] <yeehaw> seferis: programname &
[20:50] <g16> yeehaw: he got permission denied while running sudo command > /var/whatever, this is because > is not passed to command, it's interpreted by Bash, which hasn't the sudo.
[20:50] <g16> But sudo tee has the sudo, so no perm denied.
[20:50] <yeehaw> g16: Aah, I get it :-)
[20:50] <mcsmurf> hi, I'm trying to help someone else who has some strange graphic problems using a Nvidia graphics card with Ubuntu 12.04
[20:50] <g16> tee will however clutter the terminal by default.
[20:50] <seferis> yeehaw: Do I have to set path first? create an executable??
[20:51] <mcsmurf> menus look either like this https://bug838351.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=711338 or this https://bug838351.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=711352
[20:51] <seferis> yeehaw: & simply means run the program in the background, doesn't it?
[20:51] <mcsmurf> so flipped and/or black; this is some headless box, but same problem occurs when using VNC and some KVM switch
[20:51] <mcsmurf> someone has seen graphic problems like that before?
[20:51] <tgm4883> ah my bad, I always forget about that
[20:51] <yeehaw> seferis: If it is installed via APT and you know the excact name you could probably use tab-completion and yes, that 's right
[20:51] <mcsmurf> simple X-apps like xeyes are black-in-black, too
[20:51] <Naphatul> ok so after installing xorg, xserver-xorg, slim and a ton of stuff like that i still can't set up cinnamon, any help?
[20:51] <Naphatul> this is on a minimal iso btw
[20:52] <yeehaw> seferis: Because opening a new terminal for every program you wanto run is a hassle :P
[20:54] <cliff__> Can someone help me configure my ubuntu server's network configuration?  I'm connected to a router that's not using NAT, and I'm lost
[20:54] <mcsmurf> oh, there's an #nvidia channel
[20:54] <seferis> yeehaw: ok, one last question if you dont mind -- where to set path so that whatever I type in ~ (/home/username) it'll recognize? especially for non apt installations?
[20:54] <mcsmurf> I'll try there for the graphics problems
[20:54] <belgianguy> is there a different channel for the server distros?
[20:54] <marahin> yep, #ubuntu-server
[20:54] <belgianguy> marahin: thanks!
[20:54] <marahin> np
[20:55] <yeehaw> seferis: Do you mean change your home directory?
[20:55] <cliff__> ah, thanks
[20:55] <GermainZ> yeehaw, that didn't help.
[20:56] <yeehaw> GermainZ: Does switches between current and updates help?
[20:56] <GermainZ> Nope, tried that too.
[20:56] <seferis> yeehaw: no. So, eg. i installed a rpm application package to... /home/usrname/myApps/app123
[20:57] <jhutchins_wk> seferis: Bet it doesn't work.
[20:57] <yeehaw> seferis: Err.. rpm is for RedHat / CentOs
[20:57] <yeehaw> GermainZ: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1962255.html ?
[20:58] <Naphatul> anyone?
[20:58] <yeehaw> !rpm | seferis
[20:58] <GermainZ> Tried that already, yeehaw
[20:58] <seferis> yeehaw, jhutchins_wk: ok, thanks for the info... but i was just throwing an example.
[20:58] <usr13> cliff__: What is your problem?
[20:59] <yeehaw> GermainZ: Well, you might try #nvidia. Because you seem to be able too google yourself ;-)
[20:59] <seferis> yeehaw, jhutchins_wk: alright, the application i was referring to was R.
[20:59] <GermainZ> yeehaw, lol, alright. Good idea :D
[20:59] <yeehaw> seferis: R?
[21:00] <jhutchins_wk> seferis: I would expect that not to work for two reasons.  RedHat puts important components in different parts of the filetree, so absolute paths aren't going to work, and relative paths aren't going to like it being in /home...
[21:00] <usr13> !apt | seferis
[21:00] <seferis> yeehaw, jhutchins_wk: so, if i've uncompressed the package into /home/usrname/myApps/r-project/ how do i start it from the ccommand line from my home directory innstead of going to its directory everytime?
[21:00] <yeehaw> seferis: The RPM package?
[21:01] <seferis> yeehaw: no, it's not an RPM   package
[21:01] <jhutchins_wk> seferis: When you build a package, the "configure" step usually locates and sets the path for various components and libraries, so that will be more likely to work.
[21:01] <yeehaw> seferis: What excactly are you trying to install, there might be an easier solution.
[21:02] <roger_> he just wants to know if can run a file from any directory without having to go to the directory the file is located in
[21:02] <jhutchins_wk> seferis: Running software from user filetrees is largely deprecated, as there aren't many cases where users who don't have root access are allowed to install or run binaries.
[21:03] <tgm4883> roger_, seferis you need to add that directory to your PATH
[21:03] <usr13> seferis: If what roger is saying is correct, just symlink it to a directory that is in your path.
[21:03] <jhutchins_wk> seferis: If you were to be more open about what you're trying to do and give us a general high-level explanation rather than secretive details we'd be better able to help.
[21:03] <yeehaw> jhutchins_wk: +1
[21:04] <[1]Anubis> so how is everyone doing today
[21:04] <seferis> yeehaw: http://cran.ma.imperial.ac.uk/bin/linux/ubuntu/ is what i am trying to install
[21:04] <usr13> seferis: ln -s /home/usrname/myApps/r-project/name-here /sr/local/sbin/
[21:05] <seferis> tgm4883: that was what I was asking... how to do that?
[21:05] <zykotick9> usr13: slight typo there.  /sr/ vs /usr/
[21:05] <[1]Anubis> why r u having a problem with it when all the instructions are there?
[21:05] <tgm4883> seferis, why aren't you just installing the deb?
[21:05] <llutz> usr13: better to use the "bin" dirs, not sbin, which are for root-use
[21:06] <tgm4883> seferis, or better yet, add their repo and install it via apt
[21:06] <usr13> seferis: ln -s /home/usrname/myApps/r-project/name-here /usr/local/sbin/
[21:06] <yeehaw> seferis: 'sudo echo "deb http://cran.ma.imperial.ac.uk/bin/linux/ubuntu quantal" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:06] <usr13> llutz: tnx
[21:06] <yeehaw> seferis: Replace quantal with your version
[21:07] <yeehaw> seferis: Then follow the apt-get instructions
[21:07] <genii-around> yeehaw: More like echo "something" | sudo tee /non-user-area-path
[21:07] <tgm4883> don't forget sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys E084DAB9
[21:07] <[1]Anubis> i have a question you tech savvy ppl
[21:07] <tgm4883> !ask | [1]Anubis
[21:08] <yeehaw> genii-around: I admit, I'm a frequent user of sudo -s and never use tee
[21:08] <[1]Anubis> i just updated my bios for windows but am going to put ubuntu on it. should i go back and install the linux bios or does it really matter?
[21:08] <tgm4883> [1]Anubis, whats is a linux bios
[21:08] <tgm4883> [1]Anubis, and/or, what is a windows bios
[21:08] <szx> nautilus refuses to mount windows 8 partition saying that it's hibernated but it's not hibernated, wtf?
[21:08] <jhutchins_wk> I think we might be talking about secureboot here.
[21:09] <yeehaw> Or grub :p
[21:09] <tgm4883> jhutchins_wk, well that isn't BIOS at all
[21:09] <usr13> [1]Anubis: The bios is not part of the operating system.
[21:09] <jpmh> On ubuntu when I clicked on the volume control it brought me a more full volume window where I could even set the value beyond 100% - now I have changed tu lubuntu, how do I get this feature back
[21:09] <[1]Anubis> no but there were a bios update for my motherboard specifically for linus
[21:09] <[1]Anubis> linux*
[21:10] <zykotick9> usr13: tell that to microsoft ;)
[21:10] <usr13> jpmh: Are you wanting to put a mixer app in the menu bar?
[21:10] <jhutchins_wk> [1]Anubis: What version of Windows?
[21:10] <tgm4883> [1]Anubis, does the update look important?
[21:10] <tgm4883> eg. [Release Notes] Fixes randomly deleting all user data under Linux
[21:11] <[1]Anubis> ummm i think it was xp home or professional. and yes i couldnt even boot my computer without the update. i had to go through a root menu to access my flash to update it.
[21:11] <usr13> zykotick9: So, are you saying that in some cases that's not entirely true?
[21:11] <yeehaw> [1]Anubis: Do you have a link to the bios update?
[21:11] <[1]Anubis> ummm yea gimme a sec
[21:12] <usr13> zykotick9: ... or are you just making a backhanded complement to MS?
[21:12] <_raven_> how to redirect the default index.htm to foo.htm in apache2?
[21:13] <yeehaw> _raven_: Why?
[21:13] <usr13> _raven_: I always just use symlinks.  (I make a directory in /home/user  like  public_html).
[21:13] <_raven_> yeehaw, to hide a service on a webserver
[21:13] <[1]Anubis> http://www.asus.com/Motherboard/M2AVM/#support_Download_17
[21:13] <[1]Anubis> click on download and bios
[21:14] <yeehaw> _raven_: Why don't you just fill the index.htm with what's in foo.htm and create a seperate page for your hidden service?
[21:14] <jpmh> usr13: I don't really care if it is in the bar - I just want to get back to the old louder volume
[21:14] <usr13> _raven_: And then just;  ln -s /home/user/public_html /var/www/My-Site
[21:14] <K3rmit> hi I'm having the hardest time trying to get my wireless USB atheros network card to work. It works on my BT5 distro but not on the linux I've tried installing compat drivers but I must be doing something wrong. Can someone help me out?
[21:14] <_raven_> yeehaw, because its a full system on default i cannot just change the default page
[21:14] <tgm4883> _raven_, you want to set the DirectoryIndex to foo.htm in your apache config
[21:14] <woo> Hey, I restored an image how do I write an mbr for ubuntu 3.2.0-37-generic x86_64 GNU/Linux?
[21:15] <rovar> hey all.  I'm having a major problem with my ubuntu install.  I have a non-removable usb drive that ubuntu likes to call /dev/sda.    When I install. i install to /dev/sdb,  but then it tries to write grub to the MBR on /dev/sda
[21:15] <woo> 12.04
[21:15] <_raven_> tgm4883, in which config?
[21:15] <rovar> during boot up, the machine doesn't look at the usb drive for that.
[21:15] <yeehaw> _raven_: Put it in a subfolder :P, but look into htaccess redirection
[21:15] <tgm4883> _raven_, in the site config
[21:15] <usr13> jpmh: So just bring up the mixer and have at it.
[21:15] <rovar> how can I tell the installer to grub-install to /dev/sdb?
[21:15] <woo> !mbr | woo
[21:15] <josvis> Hi folks, any Ubuntu alternative for capturing video&audio from TV-decoder? Previously (in Windows) used Pinnacle Studio with TV-decoder connected to Pinnacle Dazzle DVC 130
[21:15] <tgm4883> _raven_, eg. /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/<your site here>
[21:15] <yeehaw> [1]Anubis: It does not mention Linux anywhere afaik
[21:16] <[1]Anubis> on select os it has linux in the list
[21:16] <papa> привет
[21:16] <woo> !mbr | K3rmit
[21:16] <tgm4883> josvis, depends on what you want to achieve. If you just want to periodically 'record' from that input, you could simply use cat
[21:17] <yeehaw> [1]Anubis: You can completely ignore that, that's just so that they know which drivers you need to download
[21:17] <_raven_> tgm4883, how does that work?
[21:17] <tgm4883> _raven_, what do you mean?
[21:17] <[1]Anubis> so i dont need to download the linux one since im installing ubuntu 12.10?
[21:17] <tgm4883> _raven_, you said you were using apache right?
[21:18] <yeehaw> [1]Anubis: Correct, There is only one bios. It's the same if you select Linux or not
[21:18] <tgm4883> [1]Anubis, there is no linux one. It's literally the same file listed under both OS's
[21:18] <michealPW> amagad, lost all 4 of my Ubuntu partitions trying to install Windows 8. I've never seen an OS in my life destruct partitions without prompting the user O_o
[21:18] <yeehaw> [1]Anubis: The other things like the drivers and apps change
[21:18] <[1]Anubis> oh ok. i just wanted to make sure since its the first time building a computer. i havent even gotten the computer to actually boot all the way
[21:18] <michealPW> Thankfully I had nearly everything backed up but I lost my ssh keys. Not sure how that's going to work out :|
[21:19] <yeehaw> michealPW: So they fixed that in Vista and Win7 and reintroduced it in Win8? weird
[21:19] <michealPW> I think maybe I can just create a new key and add it to my GitHub/Gitorious accounts? Iunno.. :(
[21:19] <tgm4883> michealPW, more of a reason to not install windows ;)
[21:19] <josvis> tgm4883 I want to record video & audio, edit same and burn content to DVD
[21:19] <michealPW> Oh, tgm4883 exactly. I'm never touching Win8 again outside of a Virtual Machine…
[21:19] <_raven_> tgm4883, yes i just look for some value i change from index.htm to foo.htm in the config i do not know how that site enabled would work
[21:20] <yeehaw> [1]Anubis: Don't sweat it, there is only one bios and you can install any os you want
[21:20] <BluesKaj> windows doesn't recognize ext file system partitions
[21:20] <michealPW> I'm still dumbfounded that it did it. It whipped the mgr, killing grub, skipped over the 3 Windows 7 partitions and deleted 4 (all) of my linux partitions, heh even the linux-swap..
[21:20] <[1]Anubis> ok thank you so much
[21:20] <silverone> i need to compile a kernel to add some support for graphic switching, if i use the default values from ubuntu, what are the odds of me screwing everything up ?
[21:20] <tgm4883> _raven_, how many sites do you have?
[21:20] <michealPW> And didn't ask me or anything, all while showing the Blue Windows logo.. Then it rebooted and I got no boot loader :(
[21:21] <jgcampbell300> hello, I need refresher ... im setting up 4 80g drives i want to use raid and stripe 0+1 and mirror to 2+3 ... using ubuntu software raid isnt that like raid 0 and raid 5 or 6 ... something like that ?
[21:21] <usr13> tgm4883: What is raven tryint to do?
[21:21] <yeehaw> silverone: As long if you let the old kernels be installed you could always choose those in grub
[21:21] <woo> K3rmit: looks like "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"  idk where your usb is located
[21:21] <SonikkuAmerica> michealPW: Is this Windows 8?
[21:21] <_raven_> tgm4883, i have airtime on the default domain but i want a white page as domain default and airtime only with .com/airtime/ attached
[21:21] <michealPW> SonikkuAmerica: Yea :(
[21:21] <tgm4883> usr13, when going to a website, open up to foo.html automatically instead of index.html
[21:21] <usr13> *trying*
[21:21] <silverone> yeehaw: thank you, that kinda eased my mind.
[21:21] <_raven_> tgm4883, or .com/airtime.htm attached
[21:21] <yeehaw> jgcampbell300: That's raid0 for 0+1 and raid1 for 2+3
[21:21] <SonikkuAmerica> michealPW: I wasn't here, what happened?
[21:22] <usr13> tgm4883: Oh, I see.  But don't understand why one would want to do such a thing....
[21:22] <yeehaw> silverone: You could also use raid10, which is both striped and mirrored
[21:22] <usr13> tgm4883: Why not just do locahost/foo.html in the browser?
[21:22] <jgcampbell300> yeehaw, ahh ... so i would have to use raid 10 kuz i dont see a raid 2
[21:22] <silverone> yeehaw: that message was not for me
[21:22] <SonikkuAmerica> michealPW: OK, what did you get?
[21:22] <michealPW> SonikkuAmerica: Well, I booted my machine with the Win8 setup dvd.. It booted from the dvd and showed me the Windows 8 logo for around 1 minute & 30 seconds then restarted the machine. When it restarted, I found that Win8 whipped the mgr and deleted my 4 linux partitions (ext4)
[21:22] <yeehaw> silverone: Sorry
[21:23] <silverone> yeehaw: no problems :D
[21:23] <usr13> _raven_: What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[21:23] <yeehaw> jgcampbell300: Yeah raid10 would be good
[21:23] <_raven_> usr13, because i want anyone who looks on the domain not gets displayed the airtime login page but a white page
[21:23] <joshu> how can I apply this patch please http://paste.ubuntu.com/1640739/
[21:23] <tgm4883> usr13, because you can't expect every user to do that
[21:23] <SonikkuAmerica> michealPW: OK, what did you select when you tried to install Windows?
[21:23] <tgm4883> usr13, which is why you set the default
[21:23] <jgcampbell300> yeehaw, cool thanks much ... think i might as well just go have a beer for now lol
[21:23] <jpmh> usr13: and what is the component that was the mixer and that I need to grab
[21:24] <michealPW> SonikkuAmerica: It didn't give me any options, it all happened while it was showing me the teal Windows 8 logo
[21:24] <[1]Anubis> if i udate my os do i have to worry about losing anything?
[21:24] <tgm4883> usr13, can you imaging having to go to google.com/search.html instead of google.com everytime you wanted to search?
[21:24] <trism> joshu: cd into your kernel tree and: patch -p1 < /path/to/patchfile
[21:24] <usr13> _raven_: tgm4883  But the server will serve any number of sites, just create directories for them (or symlinks).
[21:24] <SonikkuAmerica> michealPW: That's weird. I might have to Google that...
[21:25] <yeehaw> [1]Anubis: Do you have any important data on the machine now?
[21:25] <seferis> yeehaw: thanks for that sudo echo ... my version is 12.04 LTS. I believe this is Precise Pangolin. so replace quantal with just precise
[21:25] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: so after a reboot and back down to 10% disk space used.. should the .gz logs have been removed? is there an adjustable configuration file for logrotate to lower the time it keeps them around?
[21:25] <usr13> tgm4883: That's what name resolution is for.
[21:25] <joshu> trism can you please provide some more detail as I've never done this before...i've got my terminal windows open. what's the path to my kernel tree?
[21:25] <yeehaw> seferis: Yeah
[21:25] <yeehaw> wiggmpk: Just let it be, .gz are very small
[21:25] <[1]Anubis> im not sure. but im downloading ubuntu 12.10 and gonna use it. so when the new update comes out do i have to worry about my data?
[21:25] <michealPW> SonikkuAmerica: I then booted the machine from a GParted LiveCD and discovered the extent of the damage (Empty mgr, huge free space where 4 partitions should be. I tried GParted's partition recovery feature but it couldn't recover anything. Luckily all my data is backed up, but I did lose my ssh keys that were in ~/.ssh
[21:26] <wiggmpk> yeehaw: kk thnks again
[21:26] <_raven_> usr13, i want google.com (in example) to serve a white page instead of the login page and manually type google.com/airtime.htm for the login
[21:26] <tgm4883> usr13, no it's not. Name resolution can't fix that
[21:26] <SonikkuAmerica> michealPW: I dunno what to tell ya... Try installing Windows, then Ubuntu, and then recover what you can.
[21:26] <yeehaw> [1]Anubis: Normal system updates won't wipe your data, but a upgrade from 12.10 to a newer version could cause problems
[21:26] <yeehaw> !backup | [1]Anubis
[21:26] <auronandace> [1]Anubis: whenever upgrading backup what you need
[21:26] <michealPW> Nono, Windows not going on the machine anymore except in a sandboxed virtual machine.
[21:27] <K3rmit> What does this mean? "FATAL: Error inserting ath9k_htc (/lib/modules/2.6.32-35-generic/updates/drivers/net/wireless....."
[21:27] <usr13> _raven_: So just set index.html as the white page
[21:27] <michealPW> haha
[21:27] <_raven_> usr13, i cannot because the whole airtime system references to the default page!!
[21:27] <usr13> _raven_: index.html can be anything you want it to be (redirect)
[21:27] <SonikkuAmerica> michealPW: OK, then just reinstall Ubuntu and use whatever you used for !backup to recover your Ubuntu stuff.
[21:27] <yeehaw> _raven_: Put the airtime app in a subfolder
[21:28] <michealPW> Put Ubuntu back in the machine, no backup of ~/.ssh though. Not sure what kind of problems that's going to cause down the road :|
[21:28] <trism> joshu: probably beyond the scope of this channel if you don't already have the kernel sources
[21:28] <yeehaw> _raven_: Then you would hve website.com as a white page and website.com/airtime as your app
[21:28] <[1]Anubis> so i might have to worry about my diablo 3 that im gonna download when endlife hits on april 2014?
[21:28] <SonikkuAmerica> michealPW: All I can see is you'll have to re-enter your SSH keys again.
[21:29] <_raven_> yeehaw, i do not want to move it myself who knows which dependencies there are
[21:29] <michealPW> Was wondering if anybody else heard of this before with Win8 deleting Linux (ext4) partitions
[21:29] <joshu> trism ah is this not something I can do with an already install desktop 12.04 os?
[21:29] <michealPW> Hopefully I'm not popular/important enough for an ssh key change to be a real problem :)
[21:29] <theseb> how debug/fix headset and webcam to work with flash app on web?
[21:30] <yeehaw> _raven_: go into the folder with the data and create a new folder. Then run 'cp -a . newfoldername' (replace newfoldername with the name of the new folder)
[21:30] <michealPW> theseb: Your headset/webcam works fine otherwise, when you're not using a Flash app?
[21:30] <yeehaw> _raven_: It will take al rights
[21:30] <theseb> michaelni: yes
[21:30] <theseb> michaelni: it works with a JAVA based webconf app...just not flash based one
[21:30] <michealPW> theseb: There are some settings for the Flash player about permissions to use your webcam. Have checked these?
[21:30] <theseb> michaelni: yes...perms are fine
[21:31] <michealPW> Hrmm, weird. Sorry, not sure :|
[21:31] <yeehaw> _raven_: You can then test if it still works, before you remove all the data from the upper folder
[21:31] <michealPW> Maybe it's a bug in adobe's Flash player on linux? Wonder if other people have same problem
[21:31] <_raven_> yeehaw, ok perhaps its an option
[21:31] <_raven_> tnx
[21:31] <yeehaw> welcome
[21:31] <michealPW> My linux machines don't have webcams to test sorry, just this MacBook Pro does hehe
[21:31] <theseb> michealPW: i've noticed stuff on windows just works
[21:31] <tgm4883> usr13, _raven_ sorry, work came up. Where are we at?
[21:31] <tgm4883> moving the dir?
[21:31] <theseb> michealPW: linux ..adobe doesn't take the time :()
[21:32] <michealPW> Yea Windows' Flash player gets more development time/attention than the Linux and Mac one, unfortunately (*Shakes fist at Adobe*)
[21:32] <theseb> michealPW: any reason Chrome browser would work but not FF
[21:32] <michealPW> theseb: Chrome has it's own Flash.
[21:32] <trism> joshu: to use that patch, you would need to apply it to the kernel sources and rebuild your kernel, you could see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile if you are curious but otherwise it isn't really supported here
[21:32] <dunst0> hello
[21:32] <theseb> michaelni: REALLY? i just assumed all browser used the same buggy untested crap from macromedia!?
[21:33] <joshu> trism ok thanks i guess it's beyond my skill without instruction. thanks anyway ;)
[21:33] <theseb> michealPW: i mean REALLY? (that was 4u :)
[21:33] <michealPW> theseb: It ships with it's own built-in Flash player. I think this is why Adobe has basically abandoned Flash on Linux. They'll just support Google with their integrated Flash player for Chrome and figure all Linux users will use Chrome. Sucks but meh.
[21:33] <theseb> michealPW: wow.......didn't know that..thanks!
[21:33] <michealPW> theseb: Normally they do. It's really new (Integrating Flash)
[21:34] <michealPW> Problem is Google probably signed some kind of "business agreement" with Adobe, right? Not sure how Mozilla Foundation would match that :|
[21:34] <yeehaw> [1]Anubis: Diablo3, after you buy that you can simply redownload it from blizzard
[21:34] <theseb> michealPW: maybe my chrome is too old? how know if it has this shiny new flash integration?
[21:34] <yeehaw> [1]Anubis: And your gamestate is saved online
[21:34] <dunst0> i have a problem when i use dual monitor, then after a while mouse click and keyboard stop working
[21:34] <theseb> michealPW: wait chrome or chromium?
[21:34] <yeehaw> [1]Anubis: You should think about photo's / video's /music
[21:34] <michealPW> I think there's a few good articles about that, since the recent Flash vulnerabilities a lot of people wanted bleeding edge Flash players :P
[21:34] <yeehaw> [1]Anubis: Personal data
[21:34] <michealPW> I don't know off the top of my head, I don't use Chrome/Chromium :P
[21:35] <seferis> yeehaw: i've tried the sudo echo, and also vi sources.list... both failed -- permission denied
[21:35] <tgm4883> chrome://plugins
[21:35] <yeehaw> seferis: And 'sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list' ?
[21:35] <seferis> yeehaw: apparently the sources.list is owned by root. but sudo does the same as root and I don't need to log in as root account to do stuffs
[21:36] <seferis> yeehaw: good idea.
[21:36] <yeehaw> seferis: You need to be root to edit sources.list. Also to install programs.
[21:36] <joshu> trism one final question regarding the kernel compilation with that patch. how long would it take someone like yourself with knowledge of the process to do something like this?
[21:37] <yeehaw> seferis: If you don't understand vi, you can also do: 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[21:37] <iain_> any1 around to help with an apache rewrite rule?
[21:37] <yeehaw> iain_: Shoot
[21:37] <trism> joshu: depends on the features enabled and the system you build on, it takes me anywhere from 20 minutes to 2 hours (for a generic ubuntu kernel)
[21:38] <SonikkuAmerica> michealPW: Bleeding edge, all right. The latest Pepper Flash gives me "confetti"
[21:38] <[1]Anubis> no i have the personal data taken care of. its the fact that diablo 3 is on a cd. and it only allows u to install it once
[21:39] <theseb> michealPW: thanks again
[21:39] <yeehaw> [1]Anubis: I do not think that is correct, it's username and password based
[21:39] <tgm4883> [1]Anubis, that sounds like some crappy drm
[21:39] <yeehaw> [1]Anubis: If you have your account details you can always download the installer from blizzard. You create those details on the first installation
[21:39] <michealPW> hehe!
[21:40] <michealPW> Yea that's what they calling it, "Pepper" (rofl) I couldn't remember
[21:40] <[1]Anubis> oh ok
[21:41] <iain_> RewriteRule   ^/test/contestant/(.*)$  /test/contestant/index.php [QSA,L]
[21:41] <VictorL> hi guys
[21:41] <iain_> im trying to redirect /test/contestant/*anythinghere to /test/contestant/index.php
[21:43] <rdomingues> boa noite
[21:43] <sddhrthrt> hey guys. I'm trying to compile OpenCV in my Ubuntu 12.04
[21:43] <sddhrthrt> and I'm getting this error:
[21:43] <sddhrthrt> Linking CXX shared library ../../lib/libopencv_highgui.so
[21:43] <sddhrthrt> /usr/bin/ld: error: cannot open /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.6/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so: No such file or directory
[21:43] <sddhrthrt> whi?
[21:43] <sddhrthrt> any ideas? I'm frustrated!
[21:43] <sddhrthrt> tried and reinstalled libglib2.0-0
[21:44] <sddhrthrt> tried and reinstalled libglib2.0-dev
[21:44] <yeehaw> michealPW: http://www.adobe.com/support/security/bulletins/apsb13-05.html Pepper is already sploited too :P
[21:44] <sddhrthrt> what else!
[21:44] <michealPW> hah!
[21:44] <michealPW> That's funny.
[21:45] <SonikkuAmerica> [ sudo exploit / ]
[21:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !danger | ^
[21:45] <michealPW> Flash just needs to die, already :P
[21:46] <SonikkuAmerica> HTML5 > Flash
[21:46] <SonikkuAmerica> Any day and twice on Sundays.
[21:46] <michealPW> Exactly.
[21:48] <tortik> who provides binary builds of apps in standard repos for ubuntu? Canonical?
[21:48] <tgm4883> tortik, depends on the app
[21:51] <tortik> tgm4883: can I build 3rd party app and put it in official repo?
[21:52] <tgm4883> tortik, yes, you can do that and submit it for approval
[21:52] <tgm4883> !revu
[21:52] <tgm4883> I'm hoping that is still the process
[21:53] <tortik> hm http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/ is 404, but I will wait... big thanks!
[21:54] <[1]Anubis> bye bye folks
[21:54] <tgm4883> tortik, probably a good read http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/
[21:59] <codezombie> shouldn't `apt-get -y -q` supress all output from apt?
[22:01] <dunst0> hi i have a problem with dual monitor, when a use a dual monitor setup, then after a while i can not use the keyboard or click with the mouse, but i still can move the mouse
[22:01] <PatrikOlsson> Hey guys, I attended to a test in PowerManagement on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagementALPM and I want to post my results, but I can't find any edit button. Am I blind or am I looking for the wrong thing?
[22:04] <mcurran> Pulseaudio connection refused for vlc, but all other apps run the audio fine...  Anyone know a quick solution?
[22:04] <ShapeShi-> Hi
[22:05] <mcurran> hello ShapeShi, how about you, you have any suggestions on my last post?
[22:09] <ShapeShi-> I want to make sure of something, I had ubuntu 12.04 installed on my netbook and was able to ssh into it whenever I liked, just recently I reinstalled that system then upgraded to 12.10, I found out that openssh-server wasn't installed by default, is this normal? I never had to ssh into my other comp with 12.10 and I just checked and it to didn't have openssh-sever installed by default either
[22:09] <sebastiansam55> how do I install the "python-requests" module for python 3 when the default python version is 2.7?
[22:10] <Ben64> ShapeShi-: i don't think any of the desktop versions come with it by default
[22:10] <ShapeShi-> I'm just wondering because I never had to install anything extra to be able to ssh into computers I had that had ubuntu installed before
[22:11] <ShapeShi-> Ben64: it's seems to be a new thing with 12.0
[22:11] <Ben64> no
[22:11] <ShapeShi-> 12.10*
[22:11] <SonikkuAmerica> ShapeShi-: Nope. 12.04 has the smae problem.
[22:11] <SonikkuAmerica> *same
[22:12] <Ben64> its not really a problem, just need to install it
[22:12] <SonikkuAmerica> [ sudo apt-get install openssh ]
[22:12] <dupes> users
[22:12] <SonikkuAmerica> dupes: And?
[22:13] <Ben64> SonikkuAmerica: you mean ssh or openssh-server
[22:13] <dupes> nm... sorry about htat
[22:13] <ShapeShi-> SonikkuAmerica: My netbook had 12.04 before I just reinstalled and updated to 12.10 and I didn't need to install anything for ssh to be able to ssh in
[22:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: openssh-server in this case.
[22:13] <mikkel> Hi there. Im looking for a way to connect my ubuntu laptop to another ubuntu pc i have and have complete terminal access. How can i easily do this?
[22:13] <IdleOne> ShapeShi-: at some point you must have shared a folder and that install ssh
[22:13] <Ben64> SonikkuAmerica: either works, but you said "openssh" which does not
[22:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: Yeah, it's been a while since I ssh'ed into anything
[22:14] <SonikkuAmerica> mikkel: [ sudo apt-get install ssh ] or [ sudo apt-get install openssh-server [
[22:14] <SonikkuAmerica> mikkel: [ sudo apt-get install ssh ] or [ sudo apt-get install openssh-server ]*
[22:14] <Ben64> !rootirc | root
[22:14] <ShapeShi-> Meh, if it's normal then idc, glad I didn't have a borked install
[22:15] <mikkel> i looked at ssh. How do it up so i can access from an external network?
[22:15] <IdleOne> ShapeShi-: it is normal that a clean install does not install ssh.
[22:15] <Ben64> mikkel: you need to forward the port (22) on your router
[22:15] <ShapeShi-> Also is someone here a op of #Linux? I seemed to have been banned and I don't know why
[22:16] <mikkel> Thanks ben64 and sonikkuamerica
[22:16] <PatrikOlsson> How do I get permission to edit wiki.ubuntu pages? :S I want to upload data from a test I did.
[22:16] <IdleOne> ShapeShi-: try ##linux-ops
[22:16] <Ben64> ShapeShi-: you don't look very banned from it
[22:17] <brokenknee>  /server irc.irc-hispano.org
[22:18] <OerHeks> !es | brokenknee
[22:18] <microm> I get no audio in kdenlive, already tried to set to pulseaudio, any idea how to fix?
[22:19] <ShapeShi-> Ben64: ever
[22:19] <ShapeShi-> Oops
[22:20] <SonikkuAmerica> microm: Is that a KDE program? (Stupid question I bet)
[22:21] <ShapeShi-> Ben64: every time I go to change my nickname I get "cannot change name while banned on ##linux"
[22:21] <michealPW> Apple hasn't patented the whole global menubar idea or that kind of stuff? :|
[22:22] <Ben65> weird
[22:22] <santos> #ubuntu-hr
[22:22] <michealPW> Like, if Apple can sue Samsung for "rounded corners" etc..
[22:22] <michealPW> Makes me worry about Canonical/ubuntu.
[22:22] <jhutchins_wk> ShapeShi-: You may be able to get help in #freenode
[22:22] <DJones> michealPW: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[22:23] <picca_> Apple don't care about canonical
[22:23] <ShapeShi-> Ben65: the specific error is: "ShapeShifter499 ##linux :Cannot change nickname while banned on channel
[22:23] <ShapeShi-> "
[22:23] <picca_> they aren't a threat
[22:23] <michealPW> I suppose
[22:23] <ShapeShi-> jhutchins_wk: good idea thanks
[22:24] <DJones> picca_: michealPW: Can you move the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic as its not really a support issue
[22:24] <michealPW> Sorry, k
[22:24] <microm> SonikkuAmerica: yes kdenlive is a KDE program
[22:25] <SonikkuAmerica> mircom: Just a pretext, try asking in #kubuntu first.
[22:26] <oisa> How can I add a deb repository to /etc/apt/sources.list via the command line?
[22:26] <tgm4883> oisa, using apt-add-repository
[22:26] <tgm4883> or just edit the file
[22:27] <oisa> tgm4883: does that allow me to specify a past release? I need to use lucid while I am on quantal
[22:27] <oisa> I tried editing the file but I get permission denied even with sudo.
[22:27] <worm> Disaster occured on my Ubuntu 12.10: I tried to add my user to group "video", then I typed "sudo usermod -G video xxx"... Now I can't become root. Any solution?
[22:28] <worm> I forgot to read the user manual...
[22:28] <zykotick9> oisa: adding lucid's repo to quantal probably isn't a good idea...
[22:28] <tgm4883> oisa, You probably shouldn't use a lucid repo on quantal, and you shouldn't be getting an access denied message
[22:28] <tgm4883> oisa, and you would just do "apt-add-repository 'deb http://myserver/path/to/repo stable myrepo'"
[22:29] <tgm4883> worm, You'll probably have to boot a live cd (or boot into recovery) and edit /etc/group
[22:30] <tgm4883> well, in recovery you could just fix it
[22:30] <zykotick9> oisa: don't use usermod in future.  or use it correctly.  you need recovery mode to readd yourself to all the proper groups
[22:30] <microm> what is as good as kdenlive for gnome?
[22:30] <auronandace> !info openshot | microm
[22:31] <worm> tgm4883: Thanks. But which groups should a user be?
[22:32] <tgm4883> worm, probably 'adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare'
[22:32] <zykotick9> tgm4883: sudo!!!
[22:32] <tgm4883> worm, oh, and your user group
[22:32] <tgm4883> zykotick9, sudo?
[22:32] <xangua> microm is there any reason you can't use kdenlive in gnome¿
[22:32] <zykotick9> tgm4883: the group, if you want to use sudo that is...
[22:33] <tgm4883> zykotick9, .... that is listed there
[22:33] <oisa> tgm4883: thanks
[22:33] <zykotick9> tgm4883: SORRY.  i'm blind ;)  not really
[22:33] <tgm4883> :)
[22:33] <worm> Thanks a lot. I'll try it. Once I realized that problem, I tried to boot from alternative and then select "ROOT", and suddenly realized that "/" is mounted as read-only...
[22:34] <Ben64> mount -o remount,rw /dev/null /
[22:34] <worm> So the only way is to create a live-cd and then do so... Thanks.
[22:35] <Haematoma> I have an SSH server running, however I seem to have some confusion regarding how SSH handles multiple users
[22:36] <Haematoma> ...nevermind
[22:36] <tgm4883> worm, you just need to remount as rw
[22:39] <marsje_> Hi. I just installed ubuntu 12.04 on a ssd with brfs. Since this gave me an error "no sparse file allowed" at boot, I decided to put /boot in a new ext4 partition. So I moved around the partitions to make space for the new /boot. Then mounted it, copied over the files, added new partition to fstab, ran update-grub. Then reboot..... then grub-rescue prompt. Where did I go wrong?
[22:41] <crazybrain> my close and minimize button dissapeared
[22:41] <microm> xangua: I cannot get the sound in preview mode, I have to render the whole video before I heard the sound
[22:41] <Batistuta999> hi
[22:41] <crazybrain> what to do?
[22:41] <crazybrain> and ubuntu is running very slow
[22:41] <microm> auronandace: openshot does not show the waveform on the audio, I can't align sound and image with it.
[22:42] <Batistuta999> I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.10 through usb, but when booting from usb, i get an error - opeartion system not found. how could i solve it?
[22:42] <lukas_> hello everyone, i've recently bought a laptop with preinstalled win8 in it and it looks like there are some problems with installing ubuntu on these new win8 machines,i've seen a lot of tutorials but they all vary.. does anyone know about a working tutorial for this installation? any thoughts? thanks
[22:42] <|Slacker|> I'm wiping the win8 partition in my lappy and leaving only ubuntu in it. How do I make ubuntu boot without it showing me the grub screen then?
[22:43] <tgm4883> Batistuta999, are you sure it's booting from the USB?
[22:43] <crazybrain> somebody help me
[22:43] <tgm4883> lukas_, You'll probably need to turn off secureboot
[22:43] <tgm4883> !patience | crazybrain
 i'm setting it to boot from usb, how could i be sure about it?
[22:44] <tgm4883> Batistuta999, you set the USB device as first to boot in the BIOS? Is there another OS on the machine? How did you make the USB?
[22:44] <Batistuta999> yes, set it as first
[22:45] <Batistuta999> Win7 installed
[22:45] <Batistuta999> did it with iso2usb
[22:45] <jhutchins_wk> lukas_: You have the opportunity to write the first definitive one.
[22:46] <|Slacker|> Batistuta999, probably is the usb setup, I had a similar problem when I installed ubuntu in my new lappy, I had to format and re-make the usb
[22:46] <tgm4883> Batistuta999, I've not heard of iso2usb.
[22:46] <lukas_> jhutchins_wk pardon? i dont really understand
[22:46] <tgm4883> Batistuta999, I'd try unetbootin (or if you have a Ubuntu desktop already, the live usb creator)
[22:46] <tyrog> Hello. Does anybody here has the Amazon search function enabled in Ubuntu 12.10?
[22:46] <tgm4883> lukas_, have you tried disabling secureboot?
[22:46] <crazybrain> My title bar is not coming?
[22:47] <tgm4883> tyrog, yes
[22:47] <crazybrain> It's disappeared
[22:47] <tyrog> Does having Amazon search enabled make unity search slower?
[22:47] <tgm4883> tyrog, no
[22:47] <Batistuta999> I'm trying unetbootin. 10x.
[22:47] <lukas_> tgm4883, no i have not, i am kinda new to installing ubuntu so i am really trying to find a tutorial on how-to
[22:47] <tyrog> tgm4883: is search faster in 12.10 than 12.04?
[22:48] <tgm4883> tyrog, I suppose. I'm not sure how I'd compare. I think it's pretty fast
[22:48] <tyrog> ok
[22:48] <tyrog> thanks
[22:48] <jhutchins_wk> lukas_: It's still pretty experimental.  Works great for some people, some people seem to have terrible problems with it.
[22:48] <tyrog> I don't mind the Amazon search feature, I just don't want my dash slower xD
[22:48] <tyrog> tgm4883
[22:48] <tgm4883> tyrog, it wouldn't make the dash slower, that isn't how Unity works
[22:49] <PoolShark_> so something happend and now I can't log into an Xubuntu machine... after I enter login and p/w, the screen just flashes and goes back to the login prompt...
[22:49] <jhutchins_wk> lukas_: Be aware that a System Restore program from Windows/the manufacturer will most likely destroy your Linux installation unless it's on a seperate drive.
[22:49] <tyrog> tgm4883: good 2 know, thanks
[22:49] <tgm4883> tyrog, unity doesn't wait for a scope to respond with data. It loads what scopes have responded and if one is late, it will pop that one in later
[22:49] <awktion> PoolShark_: try logging in via a tty
[22:49] <awktion> ctrl+alt+ (f1-f6)
[22:49] <PoolShark_> yeah I'm in a tty now
[22:49] <PoolShark_> Xorg logs don't tell me anything
[22:50] <tgm4883> tyrog, this is actually pretty easy to see with some scopes, as you'll do a search, results will pop up, then after a few seconds, more results will pop up
[22:50] <awktion> then do a less for your .xsession-errors
[22:50] <tgm4883> tyrog, although you don't have to wait for the other results
[22:50] <|Slacker|> can I repeat my question??
[22:50] <lukas_> jhutchins_wk: i see :/ but i would really like to have ubuntu on my machine.. so what do you recommend? I have 2 separate drives, one is 900gb drive with win8 installed on it and the other one is 25gb one with nothing on it
 do you know why the default option in unetbootin is the version of 12.04 ?
[22:50] <tgm4883> Batistuta999, ... because the unetbootin people didn't update it?   Because 12.04 is LTS? IDK
[22:50] <rocket_> Hi. I have a problem with my Ubuntu. Every time i try to update it, my computer stops working. Any ideas on why this is happening?
[22:50] <xangua> Batistuta999:  you can manually select any linux iso you have
[22:51] <PoolShark_> rocket_: I think I might have the same problem. Mine just installed some updates and now I can't log in
[22:51] <tgm4883> rocket_, tell your computer to get a job
[22:51] <Batistuta999> yes, i choose 12.10
[22:51] <rocket_> After the update and restart.
[22:51] <PoolShark_> rocket_: yeah... it updated.. I restarted... and now when I try to log in it just flashes back to the login screen
[22:51] <tyrog> tgm4883: I had already figured that, just wanted to be sure about the amazon lens
[22:51] <PoolShark_> rocket_: sound familiar?
[22:52] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, sounds like X is crashing
[22:52] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, proprietary drivers?
[22:52] <rocket_> Mine doesn't even start. The screen looks funny.
[22:52] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: nope... no proprietary drivers
[22:52] <rocket_> And it hangs.
[22:52] <|Slacker|> I'm wiping the win8 partition in my lappy and leaving only ubuntu in it. How do I make ubuntu boot without it showing me the grub screen then?
[22:52] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: it's a VM in ESXi that worked fine until this update
[22:53] <rocket_> Does'nt show the launcher.
[22:53] <jhutchins_wk> sladen: update-grub
[22:53] <jhutchins_wk> sladen: Sorry.
[22:53] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, are you using the vmware extensions from the repo or the ones provided by vmware?
[22:53] <|Slacker|> jhutchins_wk, thanks bro.
[22:53] <jhutchins_wk> |Slacker|: update-grub
[22:53] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: repo
[22:53] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: open-vm-tools
[22:53] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, hmm, I'd think those would be fine
[22:54] <rocket_> Please help me! I have an AMD Phenom X4 995 CPU and 8 GB of RAM.
[22:54] <tgm4883> !patience | rocket_
[22:54] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: guest login works ok
[22:54] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, we don't have a GUI on our Ubuntu servers in ESXi, so I can't check :/
[22:54] <SonikkuAmerica> rocket_: What's the problem?
[22:54] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, was there anything in .xsession-errors?
[22:54] <jhutchins_wk> rocket_: You say this happens every time.  How did you fix it last time?
[22:55] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: actually yeah that file is 100K hah
[22:55] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: but not timestamped
[22:55] <rocket_> I disabled updates.
[22:55] <rocket_> It doesn't update.
[22:55] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, so what does the end of it say?
[22:55] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, 'tail -n 100 .xsession-errors'
[22:56] <rocket_> I reinstalled the OS last time.
[22:56] <PoolShark_> something about g_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote Peer vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on async read (g-io-errir-quark, 0). Exiting.
 I disabled updates. >>> <rocket_> It doesn't update. <<< Are you trying to re-enable them?
[22:57] <SonikkuAmerica> rocket_: What it probably did was detect .conf files that were on the old install (unless you wiped your HDD 1st)
[22:58] <rocket_> Yes. I want updates. But, after it finishes installing them and reboots, the screen looks funny and the OS hangs.
[22:58] <rocket_> I wiped the HDD. Keeps doing the thing i said.
[22:58] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: that, and something else about a resource being temporarily unavailable
[22:58] <SonikkuAmerica> rocket_: Oh. Didn't catch that.
[22:59] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, hmm, anything in syslog
[22:59] <SonikkuAmerica> rocket_: Can you run [ sudo apt-get update ]?
[22:59] <rocket_> Okay, will try that.
[22:59] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: nope..
[23:00] <Jcopacetic> Hi can I find a little technical help here? I'm not sure that I found the right place...
[23:00] <rocket_> Did it, it showed a list.
[23:00] <PoolShark_> oh here we go
[23:00] <tgm4883> !ask | Jcopacetic
[23:01] <SonikkuAmerica> Jcopacetic: You definitely found the right place.
[23:01] <PoolShark_> "xfce4-terminal:Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.
[23:01] <PoolShark_> vmware-user: could not open /prof/fs/vmblock/dev
[23:01] <Jcopacetic> I thought this might be the wrong room. So what does this mean = sudo apt-get install scangearmp-mp280series
[23:01] <Jcopacetic> Reading package lists... Done
[23:01] <Jcopacetic> Building dependency tree
[23:01] <Jcopacetic> Reading state information... Done
[23:01] <Jcopacetic> Package scangearmp-mp280series:i386 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[23:01] <FloodBot1> Jcopacetic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:01] <Jcopacetic> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[23:01] <Jcopacetic> is only available from another source
[23:02] <rocket_> Might be the drivers it tries to install.
[23:02] <Haematoma> HELP!
[23:02] <rocket_> ATI 6700 graphics card...
[23:02] <Haematoma> The command="...restricted list..." option in authorized_keys is not working for my SSH server
[23:05] <PoolShark_> dammit
[23:07] <bel3atar> widad-charai: hani
[23:07] <marsje_> When starting from rescue mode from a ubuntu 12.04 netboot cd, should I be able to mount a btrfs partition? I'm trying, but the partition that that is supposed to contain / seems empty
[23:09] <PoolShark_> okauy
[23:09] <t0ntin> Hi, All! I'm trying to connect to some VPN services. I get the error message "VPN connection failed" with all of them. Any ideas?
[23:10] <bel3atar> is ubuntu switching to a rolling release model?
[23:10] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: so I deleted the xsession-errors because I had no way of knowing when those log entries were made.. so after doing that, and attempting (and failing) to log in, there is no new .xsession-errors log created
[23:10] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: so that tells me that whatever is happening is not getting logged in .xsession-errors
[23:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Rollbuntu!
[23:11] <tgm4883> bel3atar, no
[23:11] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, hmm
[23:11] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, Not sure, I wonder if a reinstall of the vmware tools would fix anything
[23:12] <tgm4883> it seems odd that the guest account works though
[23:12] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: removed them altogether
[23:12] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: and no luck
[23:13] <marsje_> note to self: when mounting a btrfs partition, it will contain a directory @ which contains all the rest
[23:13] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, still nothing in .xsession-errors or syslog?
[23:13] <Flynn> hello
[23:13] <Alocer> PoolShark_, what is the problem ?
[23:13] <PoolShark_> tgm4883:  a bunch of messages flash across the screen after my login attempt, as X is apparently restarting, but there is absolutely no hope of me being able to read them,... but no.. nothig in syslog, kern.log, or xsession-errors
[23:14] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, what about Xorg.* log files?
[23:14] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, in /var/log
[23:14] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, at this point, I'm guessing at log files though :/
[23:14] <Alocer> tgm4883, PoolShark_ , wrong xorg.conf ? maybe !!
[23:15] <tgm4883> Alocer, guest user works fine though
[23:15] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: there is actually something in syslog... from acpid saying 1 client rule loaded, then client #####[0:0] has disconnected
[23:15] <tgm4883> Alocer, and this only broke after updates, which is odd
[23:16] <crazybrain> my title bar is missing
[23:16] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, do you recall what was updated?
[23:16] <crazybrain> i am using ubuntu 12.10
[23:16] <SonikkuAmerica> crazybrain: Unity title bar?
[23:16] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: no, all I saw was "90-something packages have been updated, please restart" I didn't look to see what they were
[23:16] <tgm4883> crazybrain, what happens if you 'unity --restart' in a terminal
[23:17] <crazybrain> SonikkuAmerica: i mea the bar with minimize,maximize and close option
[23:17] <Alocer> PoolShark_, tgm4883 , how can we reconfigure X ?
[23:17] <tgm4883> Alocer, dpkg-reconfigure xorg?
[23:17] <SonikkuAmerica> crazybrain: Oh, the metacity bar. That just calls for restarting X, as far as I know.
[23:17] <Alocer> PoolShark_, tgm4883 , or maybe renaming .config folder in ~ ?
[23:18] <tgm4883> Alocer, PoolShark_ could test with a new user?
[23:18] <crazybrain> SonikkuAmerica: what should i do?
[23:18] <Alocer> PoolShark_, tgm4883 , yes good one create new user :">
[23:18] <PoolShark_> same problem with a new users, but guest works fine
[23:18] <PoolShark_> weird
[23:19] <SonikkuAmerica> Try this: (1) Hit Ctrl+Alt+F1. (2) Login with username and password. (3) Type [ sudo stop lightdm ] and authenticate. (4) If a terminal shows up with *'s, hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 again. (5) Type [ sudo start lightdm ] and log in again. See if anyhting changes.
[23:19] <SonikkuAmerica> crazybrain: ^\
[23:19] <Alocer> PoolShark_, tgm4883 , shall we reconfigure X ? i dont know !!
[23:19] <PoolShark_> I wish it would have TOLD ME before it decided to go off and update 90 packages, seeing as how when I installed I told it to ask me before installing, because I like to take snapshots before doing stuff like that
[23:19] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, worth reading maybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/189515/my-account-cant-start-gui-but-guest-account-can
[23:20] <Alocer> SonikkuAmerica, do u have ccsm ( compiz congif manager ) installed ?
[23:20] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, who owns .Xauthority
[23:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Alocer: yeah
[23:21] <Alocer> SonikkuAmerica, Check the box in ccsm that says window decoration
[23:21] <Falados> I'm experiencing this bug (Bug #1060525 ) where LiveCD hangs after I select 'Try' or 'Install' ubuntu.  It goes to a blank screen with a blinking carat.  Any way to troubleshoot this?
[23:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Alocer: crazybrain may have to restart Compiz.
[23:22] <roger__> does anyone know how to upgrade an existing 12.04 install to use the new LTS enablement stack? According to wiki there's a meta package to install, anyone know what it's called? [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack]
[23:22] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: was worth a try, but did not fix it.. can't log in using gdm either
[23:22] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, who owns .Xauthority
[23:23] <eduardo> hello
[23:24] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: I do
[23:24] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, and there was nothing in the xorg log files?
[23:24] <caryhartline> Ugh, I made a horrible mistake. I uninstalled crypt setup in a way that is not proper and now sda5 won't mount.
[23:25] <tgm4883> caryhartline, reinstall it in a non-proper way?
[23:25] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: OMFG you're not going to believe htis
[23:25]  * tgm4883 sits in disbelief
[23:25] <crazybrain> SonikkuAmerica: nothing happened :(
[23:25] <tgm4883> crazybrain, what happens if you 'unity --restart' in a terminal
[23:25] <Alocer> PoolShark_, ????
[23:26] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: so I had a share samba mounted in my home directory, and apparently had configured something to use it... but that mount was not preserved across reboots, and whatever was using it apparently hooked it into my x session config and it crapped when it wasn't there
[23:26] <caryhartline> even after booting up a live cd and going into the terminal and reinstalling it. The sda5 still won't mount.
[23:26] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, so all is fixed now?
[23:26] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: apparently
[23:26] <Alocer> lol
[23:26] <SonikkuAmerica> crazybrain: Try [ sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager ]
[23:26] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, nice. Was that logged somewhere or did you just remember you had it
[23:26] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: just remembered
[23:26] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, sweet
[23:27] <Alocer> nice one:P
[23:27] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: yeah it was thunderbird.. I had set up thunderbird to try to hook into my Gmail, but since this VM doesn't have enough space I mounted a share to download my mail... and that experiment ended and I never cleared it up
[23:27] <PoolShark_> ugh
[23:27] <crazybrain> tgm4883: no such option --restart
[23:27] <PoolShark_> that only took 2 hours of my life away
[23:27] <crazybrain> SonikkuAmerica: i had already installed compizconfig
[23:28] <tgm4883> crazybrain, what version of ubuntu?
[23:28] <crazybrain> 12.10
[23:28] <SonikkuAmerica> crazybrain: Is "Window Decoration" enabled in the settings manager?
[23:29] <crazybrain> SonikkuAmerica: nope
[23:29] <Alocer> -.-
[23:29] <crazybrain> it's unchecked
[23:29] <SonikkuAmerica> tgm4883, I have to go, can you continue with crazybrain please, and thank you.
[23:29] <debiantoruser> # aptitude remove rhythmbox
[23:29] <PoolShark_> this is retarded
[23:29] <debiantoruser> http://pastebin.com/bbbwb8XR
[23:29] <caryhartline> I've given up on this and just going to reinstall on a new partition.
[23:29] <PoolShark_> there is no obvious way to remove an email account in thunderbird
[23:29] <debiantoruser> Some body can explain me, Why?
[23:29] <tgm4883> crazybrain, ATI?
[23:29] <caryhartline> How can u tell which partition is the external harddrive?
[23:29] <k1l> debiantoruser: aptitude, again?
[23:30] <abi_> http://gradcon-gradcon4.s3.amazonaws.com/static/images/default-employer-logo.jpg
[23:30] <crazybrain> tgm4883: ATI?
[23:30] <darkomenz> Hello, I seem to be having issues with 12.10 server. I am trying to configure vlans on a bonded interface and the dmesg logs 8021q: vlans not supported on bond0. The modules are present in lsmod. Any ideas?
[23:30] <tgm4883> crazybrain, what video card?
[23:30] <crazybrain> tgm4883: what's that?
[23:30] <debiantoruser> k1l, gnome depends on rhytmandbox
[23:30] <crazybrain> Intel
[23:30] <k1l> debiantoruser: dont use aptitude
[23:30] <copec> darkomenz, do you have the vlan package installed?
[23:30] <k1l> use apt-get
[23:30] <debiantoruser> the same result
[23:30] <darkomenz> copec: yes
[23:31] <copec> Are you creating bridges at all?
[23:31] <crazybrain> tgm4883: it's intel hd graphics
[23:31] <crazybrain> inbuilt one
[23:31] <debiantoruser> # apt-get remove rhythmbox # http://pastebin.com/108vye07
[23:31] <darkomenz> in /etc/network/interfaces yes
[23:31] <Guest40989> I expected to see more people :(
[23:31] <copec> do you have bridge-utils installed?
[23:32] <Guest40989> yes, and you ?
[23:32] <darkomenz> copec: yes
[23:32] <debiantoruser> k1l, # apt-get remove rhythmbox # http://pastebin.com/108vye07
[23:32] <PoolShark_> my god that was painful
[23:32] <Alocer> PoolShark_, GZ
[23:33] <crazybrain> tgm4883: there?
[23:33] <tgm4883> crazybrain, yea, i'm thinking/searching
[23:33] <k1l> debiantoruser: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/5194/whats-up-with-this-gnome-package
[23:33] <tgm4883> crazybrain, did you do any customization of unity/compiz?
[23:34] <crazybrain> tgm4883: got it man
[23:34] <crazybrain> tgm4883: thankssssssssss
[23:34] <crazybrain> !thanks
[23:34] <darkomenz> copec: the odd thing is it works under 12.04.1 lts same config
[23:34] <rexwin_> how to check volumes in my ubuntu mac
[23:35] <copec> darkomenz, I've always struggled to get advanced networking configs to work consistently
[23:35] <darkomenz> copec: the only thing i can think of is someone changed the kernel config between releases.
[23:36] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: my problem was pretty retarded, but not nearly as retarded as the reason I have this VM in the first place heh
[23:36] <copec> darkomenz, did you try declaring the vlan bridge directly in the interface using bridge_ports bond0.123 for instance, then it implicitly creates the vlan bridge
[23:37] <copec> darkomenz, I've found sometimes that makes it work right
[23:37] <tgm4883> crazybrain, anything in /var/log/lightdm/* or ~/.xsession-errors
[23:37] <tgm4883> PoolShark_, whats that reason?
[23:37] <copec> darkomenz, like the format of this link:  https://www.stgraber.org/download/complex-interfaces
[23:38] <debiantoruser> k1l, you think, i'm should just remove metapackage gnome and package gnome-desktop-environment
[23:38] <caryhartline> I'm getting error: unknown filesystem. Grub rescue >
[23:38] <PoolShark_> tgm4883: well, the FCC is proposing to mandate all filings for broadcast permits to be studied using this new uniform software the commission contracted out to this apparently all-apple-fanboi consulting firm... and the software is mac only, but they give you the source in case you want to try to compile it on BSD or Linux
[23:38] <k1l> debiantoruser: mark the packages as manually installed
[23:38] <lovefan> caryhartline: have you got another os on your computer?
[23:38] <PoolShark_> (oh, and the guy at FCC who is in charge of this was a partner at said consulting firm)
[23:39] <rexwin_> i am having ubuntu 8.04 jeos installed. how do i run OS upgrade from command line?
[23:39] <k1l> debiantoruser: i would just remove the packages. they are just metapackages
[23:40] <darkomenz> copec: yes
[23:40] <rexwin_> jeos over vbox in Win 7
[23:40] <k1l> debiantoruser: like again said in here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/removing-rhythmbox-and-only-rhythmbox-469826/
[23:42] <Salgado_> Hola, alguien posee conocimentos avanzados frente al SO backtrack?
[23:42] <k1l> !backtrack | Salgado_
[23:44] <caryhartline> Whoops my phone died
[23:44] <caryhartline> No i don't have another OS
[23:45] <Alocer> caryhartline, run info grub from live cd ;D
[23:45] <caryhartline> I ended up getting into this problem from following advice on this thread:
[23:45] <caryhartline> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868681
[23:46] <debiantoruser> aptitude
[23:46] <caryhartline> What is info grub?
[23:46] <Alocer> caryhartline, tells you everything about grub
[23:49] <Salgado_> Hola, alguien posee conocimentos avanzados frente al SO backtrack?
[23:49] <k1l> Salgado_: no backtrack
[23:49] <caryhartline> I wish I could just reinstall everything, but my home directory has so many photos that are not backed up
[23:50] <Alocer> '/join #backtrach-linux'
[23:50] <Salgado_> Hola, alguien posee conocimentos avanzados frente al SO backtrack?
[23:50] <Synthead> how can I make a two-finger tap on my touchpad middle click instead of right click?
[23:51] <MonsterFanfan> caryhartline: just use a live cd and you can backup your photos
[23:51] <Alocer> Synthead, u have to create a uevent i think ;)
[23:51] <caryhartline> How do I bring the photos from the harddrive to live cd?
[23:52] <Synthead> Alocer: what would that entail?
[23:52] <Synthead> Alocer: I could create an xorg.conf but it seems better to avoid it if possible
[23:52] <caryhartline> I can't reinstall anyways because it says it "can't find the root directory"
[23:52] <Alocer> it seems you know much more than me Synthead
[23:52] <MonsterFanfan> caryhartline: no,you just use the live cd so that you can move your photos to your usb storage
[23:52] <Alocer> Synthead, that was an idea
[23:58] <MrHacks> To encrypt /home or to not encrypt /home. That is the question?
[23:58] <debiantoruser> k1l, do you know true way to totally remove gvfs services from ubuntu?
[23:59] <caryhartline> Word of advice from the upset: never encrypt anything. Just leave it all out there. Otherwise you'll be like me and totally mess up your encryption :(