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smartboyhw!support07:42
ubottuThe official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com07:42
smartboyhwLet me switch that to our own channel:P07:42
smartboyhw!support-#ubuntustudio-devel is <reply> This is the Ubuntu Studio development channel. Our official support channel is on #ubuntustudio. Also see http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=33507:46
zequencesmartboyhw: Is Ho your lastname. Which is your first name?09:55
smartboyhwzequence, why?10:26
zequencesmartboyhw: I just thought it might be nice to know your name. I know traditionally Chinese always put their last name first, but since I'm not used to the names, it's hard for me to tell which is which. 10:32
zequenceI know it's common also to keep a western name, but if I know your actual name, I'd rather use that10:33
zequenceI've updated the header. Now, both https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/ have the same style of headers10:34
smartboyhwMy real name is Chan Ho Wan. Chan is my surname, Ho Wan is my first name. But then my English name is Howard, and I'd prefer using Howard Chan.10:35
zequenceChan is not the same as Zhang and Chang, then?10:36
zequenceIf you prefer Howard, the that is what I will use :)10:36
zequenceI just need to make it clearer which wiki one is on. It's a little hard to tell right now :P10:37
zequenceAlso, I need to put it on many of our important pages10:38
IdleOne!support | smartboyhw 12:24
ubottusmartboyhw: This is the Ubuntu Studio development channel. Our official support channel is on #ubuntustudio. Also see http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=33512:24
IdleOne:)12:25
len-1304hyperthreading is bad for lowlatency, didn't know that.14:03
len-1304The Linux console is bad for it too.14:04
smartboyhwzequence, yes14:10
smartboyhwGood one there14:10
zequencelen-1304: What is Linux console?14:11
len-1304ctl-alt-F1 to 614:12
smartboyhwzequence, nice headers for the wiki/14:13
len-1304Apparently, it uses kprint to write test to screen, which can take too much time if the text is long.14:13
len-1304zequence, have you looked at the "nosoftlockup intel_idle.max_cstate=0 mce=ignore_ce kernel options?14:14
zequencelen-1304: How is Linux Console bad for lowlatency?14:14
zequencelen-1304: I haven't looked at the config, no. 14:15
len-1304I guess the consloe output of text to screen is atomic14:15
len-1304*console14:15
zequencelen-1304: You mean, if actively using the linux console, that is bad for lowlatency?14:16
len-1304The recomendation is to use ssh instead.14:16
len-1304Yes, also if the console logging was left on that is bad too.14:16
len-1304I think we have it set to quiet at boot, Good.14:17
zequencelen-1304: The nosoftlockup is a kernel parameter than, which can be set as a Grub boot option? What is your source for this14:17
len-1304http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01804533/c01804533.pdf14:17
len-1304All of the options I stated are boot options.14:18
len-1304I started looking at SMI stuff, which was new to me.14:18
len-1304I got started on this whole thing from:14:19
len-1304http://manual.ardour.org/setting-up-your-system/the-right-computer-system-for-digital-audio/14:19
len-1304I have also found that USB Keyboards and mice are bad for latency.14:20
len-1304Apparently the stock exchange people are really picky about latency. They are probaly doing more realtime reseach than in audio.14:21
len-1304(ALSA being one of the extra services they turn off)14:21
zequenceI've saved this stuff for later. I was actually just about to start doing some kernel testing, while I study here at school14:22
smartboyhwzequence, the IT courses?14:22
zequencesmartboyhw: I'm studying for different certificates. Linux, Cisco, etc14:24
smartboyhwzequence, add oil14:24
smartboyhwHey scott-work 14:27
scott-workmorning smartboyhw 14:48
zequenceI'm surrounded by Windows nerds at the school I go to16:48
zequenceA quote "you can't have all existing drivers distributed in a all-in-one package"16:49
zequence"It would take too much room"16:49
zequencespace*16:49
zequenceThese Windows guys just can't believe the idea that you just install an OS, and everything just works16:50
zequenceMade me wonder, how much of available linux drivers, that are legally possible to distribute, are not distributed with, say Ubuntu16:51
zequenceI'm kind of thinking less then 5%, but then, I don't know what "all" means16:51
zequenceFound this site, a database for drivers on Debian systems http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/17:34
zequencettoine: So, the interview is tomorrow, right?20:13
zequenceI've been putting too much time on header design. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Navigation/HeaderStaging20:14
ttoinezequence, yes22:18
zequencettoine: I wrote down a couple questions more23:32
zequenceIt's really hard. It does seem like Stephane has commited every change to jack2, I think all of them23:34
zequenceBut, not his patches, all of them23:34
zequenceSeems like he's the administrator of the code, or something23:34
zequenceJust had a look at the git logs, and that shows a different story23:39
zequenceBut, Stephane is still the guy who does the most commits23:39
zequenceIt's late. Good luck with the interview tomorrow :)23:40

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