[00:08] hi [00:14] so under session and startup settings. And under application autostart, each time I add a new thing, it just gets deleted when I close the window. Also I'm not abel to locate the .config folder, even though im under home/user... [00:16] Malinuss: it might be a permissions issue - in a terminal do ls -lah and check that your user owns the files [00:17] moetunes, I see, how would I start the "application autostart" as a command? [00:17] I have no idea - I always use the menu for that [00:17] I only have one user, is it possible to give that user root access, or whatever it is called? [00:18] Malinuss, if you only have one user, that user has sudoing rights. [00:18] it should have been set up like that at the install - use sudo [00:18] Malinuss, that's not the problem. did you try with moetunes proposed? [00:18] not yet, I will try in a second [00:18] (not on the computer) [00:25] apperently the added commands at startup were actually saved, and all reparead at the start of the system... Hmm guess it's a bug? usig ls -lah I can see the .config in blue, what does that mean? [00:26] it means that it is a folder [00:27] I see [01:16] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShbP3OpASA [01:24] anyone here use xubuntu and awesome together? i want to use compiz with awesome wm together [01:25] alch3m157: compiz and awesomewm are both window managers you can't use them at the same time [01:25] That's what I told him hehe [01:26] seriously? aw man, that blows! :( [04:39] hey is it possible to have aglobal menu in xubuntu 12.10 [04:41] bulletrulz: xubuntu is open, so, in theory, anything is possible [04:41] bulletrulz: what are you looking for? what are you considering a "global menu"? [04:42] holstein, trying to make my xubuntu install look like ubuntu u know the ubuntu thing like mac has it too [04:43] bulletrulz: acutally, lets pretend i dont, and fill me in on what you are looking for, as far as functionality [04:43] you mean, you want to hit the super key and have a hud? [04:43] or the apple space search? [04:44] umm its hard to explain like the umm u know file blah blah blah lol [04:44] bulletrulz: no, i dont.. but you can take a screen shot, or elaborate on the blah... [04:44] bulletrulz: you want something like gnome-do? [04:44] holstein, the thing at the top http://files.myopera.com/mazwarbz/blog/ubuntu%20osx.png [04:44] kupfer, synapse? [04:45] bulletrulz: the panel at the top? [04:45] holstein, yeah u see the thiong that says file and all that [04:46] bulletrulz: the way main ubuntu does it is like that.. the panel "eats" the menu items [04:46] bulletrulz: OSX does it that way too [04:46] holstein, this http://lh3.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/S9cZZRwKCbI/AAAAAAAAA7M/Ki2XhQ1h574/uubuntumac_cropped.jpg [04:47] bulletrulz: i have *not* tested this [04:47] http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=146102 [04:49] holstein, Currently only Ubuntu Oneiric is supported [04:51] bulletrulz: ? [04:51] holstein, yeah i did my research and it says it doesent work with xubutnu 12.10 D: [04:52] bulletrulz: it? [04:52] bulletrulz: i would just grab the .debs and try it.. but im running 12.04 anyways [04:52] bulletrulz: sounds like you'll need to decide [04:52] bulletrulz: you can deal with it "as-is".. install 12.04 and that ppa.. or see what that ppa is doing and try and emulate it [04:53] OR, just try the .deb's in 12.10 [04:54] http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=7745 [04:55] https://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/ [04:55] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gnome-globalmenu-xfce4/ suggests the same [05:44] Anyone know of a good, solid, reliable, and constant free vpn? === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [08:43] ok, I have a problem. [08:43] I have 32-bit install of xubuntu 12.04 LTS [08:44] k [08:44] And since day 1 of installation, it is popping up bug reports [08:44] and it is doing that every single day [08:44] the bug reporting feature became more aggressive as of version 12 [08:44] lsb_release and apport themselves are popping up reports [08:45] but I think that it is not doing reporting actually [08:45] that reporting itself is crashing [08:45] here it is. apport-gtk has closed unexpectedly [08:46] "try restarting computer" [08:46] "internal error" [08:46] yikes. [08:47] is there a way for me to report them manually to those things I suffer from get finally reported with full log? [08:47] yes let me pull up a link for you [08:48] I used to do manual reports on LP long ago, but I suppose there are some logs to pick up to report, too. [08:48] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Reporting_a_Bug [10:56] Toc toc === jg is now known as Waynezcc [10:59] it works!!! [11:00] it always works! :> === KeyboardNotFound is now known as _____ === _____ is now known as ____________ === mogitox is now known as mogitaff [12:51] hello [12:52] i got dual monitor set up hdmi and vga. [12:52] radeon video [12:55] just set up my canon wireless printer that was easy [13:28] Hi. On a Xubuntu 12.10 (virtualized), I can't install graphically a (previously downloaded) .deb while being offline. The software-center (which is the default program for .deb files) need a connection to install it. While Gdebi don't. Is it a bug or a feature ? [13:29] ("dpkg -i" works great in console. Gdebi too, if I install it.) [13:35] It requires a connection? Is there some sort of "Work Offline" mode? [14:01] Unit193: it seams that it requires a connection yes. The "install" button is disabled when I'm not connected. I don't find a "work offline" mode. [14:09] hi [14:20] Zelouille: And you have all the dependencies already installed? [14:26] Unit193: yes, as I said, it works great with "dpkg -i" or Gdebi. [14:33] dpkg -i wouldn't check, gdebi does though. I would report a bug with USC in that case. [15:21] Could somebody tell me what's the command to open the applications' menu? I accidentally removed the alt+f1 shortcut. [15:22] GermainZ: you can either right-click the desktop [15:23] or you can add the plugin to the panel (right-click panel > add new items > application menu) [15:23] Thanks, but not what I asked for. :) [15:26] Found it: xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu [15:49] Has anyone ever seen this issue with a WINE program, where you can not actually click anything even though the mouse movement and mouseover works? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2113787 [15:51] K1rk: you mean, a windows program running in wine? [15:52] holstein, yes. [15:52] i would say, you can see *anything* with a windows application running where its not designed or supported to run [15:52] I agree. [15:52] But that doesn't change the fact that I've been asked to make this software work. So, just seeing if anyone has any ideas of anything I haven't tried. [15:52] the issue is, what can you do about it?.. i mean, there is nothing preventing linux/ubuntu from being supported natively [15:53] K1rk: you've been asked? [15:53] holstein, yep. [15:53] holstein, I have no desire to use "Online Coach" lol [15:53] if this were missions critical, or "paid" work.. i wouldnt use wine [15:54] holstein, I work in educational IT, and we are a Linux school now. [15:54] We have a lot of legacy software we're doing in WINE in production. [15:54] I agree it's ill advised, but we're trying to phase out software as best we can and push for web tools. [15:54] K1rk: i would consider using linux software [15:54] holstein, yep, me too, but it was purchased without them consulting us. [15:55] Happens a lot. [15:55] Usually we get it working. [15:55] K1rk: sure.. but an update can break it.. anytime [15:55] K1rk: and no one is responsible [15:55] if it were me, for mission critical software, i would do i natively [15:55] Preaching to the choir holstein. [15:56] otherwise, this is literally going to be an ongoing process of trial and error and fixing.. assuming you can "fix" it [15:56] Yep... hence why if you read my thread I'm using PlayOnLinux. That will keep the WINE version constant. [15:56] So far we have been running a lot of production software (exam generators, etc) under WINE and have not had any compatibility problems with updates yet. [15:56] K1rk: what would i do? make friends with someone in the wine team.. xubuntu doesnt do anything with playonlinux or wine [15:57] K1rk: yeah? [15:57] K1rk: i thought you were here due to a compaitiblit issue? [15:57] This is new software... our software we got working before has not randomly broken. [15:57] K1rk: but, again.. im not trying to be combative, just realistic.. you *will* have issues.. and i wish you lick [15:57] I agree that it could. In principle. [15:57] luck* [15:57] K1rk: i would get *very* envolved with the wine team [15:59] And yes I know it's not an xubuntu issue, but we are running xubuntu, and I've gotten a lot of good answers from this channel before about WINE stuff, etc. [15:59] #wine on freenode is invite-only unfortunately [15:59] #winehq [16:00] yeah, #winehq seems like the place to be [16:00] Oh, favorited, thank you. [16:01] K1rk: you can also try the main #ubuntu channels.. no need to narrow your queries to xfce, or xubuntu [16:01] Yeah I asked there also. I like this channel better, it's less crowded. [16:02] K1rk: sure. with less volunteers... less wine users/supporters... a narrower search [16:02] holstein, yeah true enough. [16:03] K1rk: i would also consider the pay-for wine [16:04] http://www.codeweavers.com/support/ ...you would actually have a support option [16:15] hi there! I need some help with wicd configuration in xfce [16:16] someone? [16:17] I want to setup wireless ad hoc networks, but I just can't seem to access wicd... [16:17] Tr0zk0: just ask.. wicd is also not only in XFCE, so the config will be similar no matter what you are using [16:19] Tr0zk0: are you wanting to do adhoc? or use wcid? or both? [16:19] both [16:19] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc [16:20] Tr0zk0: is your hardware supported? [16:20] my hardware supports wireless, I used to do that on windows... [16:21] Tr0zk0: windows support is not the same as what you will get in linux [16:21] Tr0zk0: not always [16:22] i would check out that adhoc document i linked, and make sure you have supported hardware, and you realize the limitations.. try it the way the doc suggests.. then you can try using wicd [16:22] doing it, thx [16:39] ok, i want to do a do-release-upgrade [16:40] but it says there is no new version available, and thats not true [16:40] oh... it might want to do a lts upgrade and thats why it fails [16:40] GridCube: you can try that checkbox in the GUI... but i wouldnt think that should keep it from happening [16:41] checkbox? [16:41] GridCube: like, if you install in LTS, the dropdown menu is set to "only LTS releases" [16:41] GridCube: though, like i said, i cant imagine that being related... [16:42] oh i had to use the -d flag [16:42] :D [16:42] \o/ yay! [17:01] So, I'm experiencing the 'can't load plug-in' glitch in chrome. I found A workaround is to remove ~/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash [17:01] But I don't know how to do that. *_* [17:01] Can anyone walk me through it? [17:02] Pretend I'm your grandma. [17:04] So it's not this http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=173790 right? [17:07] Okay, can you hear me now? [17:08] I think that -is- the problem. [17:09] Issue 173790, I mean. [17:09] It is fixed now, so if you remove that folder (maybe need to update chrome too?) it should be fixed I'd think. [17:10] PepperFlash .139 is out, so that could be part of the fix. [17:10] Unit193: Oh, thanks, I didn't know that dpkg wouldn't check the dependencies. So, how do you install a .deb with his dependencies by a command line ? apt-get can do that ? [17:11] Okay, where do I find that folder? [17:13] Zelouille: I still use dpkg -i then sudo apt-get install -f to get the rest. As you already know, you can also use gdebi (gdebi-gtk being the GUI.) As for USC? I don't use it and it's not been on my system for a long time now, but I'd think that's not expected that it fails if you aren't connected. [17:13] I wish I could understand any of that~*_* [17:14] Newb: The folder you listed, ~/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash, open a terminal and paste (very carefully!!) rm -Iv ~/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash [17:14] Newb: That message before wasn't to you, it was to the other person. [17:15] That doesn't change my wish~ ^///^ [17:15] Okay, I'll see... If I can do what you say. [17:15] Newb: open the file manager and hit the Ctrl+h keys and you'll see the .config folder [17:15] Oh gosh... Um... How do I get to the file manager? [17:16] -Ivr, rather (I prompts you to confirm, -v lists what's been removed, and -r will remove the folders contents) [17:17] Is that the 'File System' icon on my desktop? [17:17] Newb: The one that says "Home" === moetuned is now known as moetunes [17:18] Okay, I found Home [17:18] There's one folder in there, with my name on it [17:19] Pressing Ctrl+h opens home on my browser, nothing in the file [17:23] Hello? Shall I try again later? [17:24] Newb: You could try removing it however you like, but ~/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash should be the thing to remove. [17:25] I just don't know how to find it~ V_V; [17:25] rm -Irv ~/.config/google-chrome/PepperFlash in a terminal window is the easier way, as all you have to do is paste it and answer the question it gives, just make sure it's correct. [17:26] okay, I managed to open a terminal window [17:27] but it won't let me type in it or paste in it [17:27] Oh, I found the paste button [17:27] and pasted what you put [17:27] hi all .. does someone know how to change the xubuntu username in the live-cd -- the usual way to change /etc/casper.conf doesnt work because the file gets somewhere modified [17:27] but it isn't asking me anything [17:32] If I want to go into a directory that has space in it, I always get a error [17:34] xubuntu876: That's what I did and it worked. [17:35] Malinuss: Via thunar or terminal+cd ? You need to either quote it, or escape it eg cd My\ Files [17:35] Unit193, just via terminal cd [17:35] terminal, using the cd command that is [17:36] Unit193, okay quotes worked, thanks [17:36] Unit193: ok, I see. Installing the .deb first, then his dependencies, it makes sens. And I thought Gdebi was only a GUI, nice to hear it has a command line too. Thank you Unit193, you were a great help. [17:37] xubuntu876: Sorry, I changed something else too, this works though: http://0bin.net/paste/16cc78c6a893b271d30de10c23303d1dad256e92#m1KaYUEs3Zyij/YCvMWH5RDTBg2G4vmRwNt98IQJMrQ= [17:38] Zelouille: Glad I could help! I thought the same about gdebi too, until someone else told me. Only issue with dpkg -i is when you half-install something that you can't fill the depends of. [17:44] Thanks Unit! I finally figured it out, and now everythings working fine. <3 [17:46] I named my flash aquarium spikey fish after you~ XD [17:46] Unit193: yes, I understand. That's why I will use Gdebi instead. I'm quite surprised Gdebi is not installed by default for that reason. Thanks again. [17:47] Newb_: Heh, glad it works now! [17:47] Zelouille: Sure thing! [18:02] Hello everyone & Guten Abend! [18:04] Unit193: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/926763 I've just found this bug of USC is already known. [18:04] Ubuntu bug 926763 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Cannot install local packages (.deb files) without network connection (offline)" [Medium,Triaged] [18:04] I need help with a UEFI installation, anybody willing to explain the necessary steps for me? [18:05] ....Win7 on disk already, wanted to add xubuntu 12.04 for dual boot. [18:06] Zelouille: Last comment looks good, hopefully it'll be fixed before release. [18:06] !uefi | This has pretty much all you should need [18:06] This has pretty much all you should need: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [18:07] I've read lots of stuff by now, but I'm not sure what to do: [18:07] I installed from USB, bootet in UEFI Mode and tried "automatic" alongside win7 [18:08] Kuzorra: Download 64bit version, 32 won't cut it for one. [18:08] (I mean I booted USB in UEFI mode, then installed) [18:08] It's 64bit [18:10] Xubuntu 12.04 64bit, I thought it would create all the partitions needed automatically ! [18:11] but only windows boots, no grub, and in live mode there is no such thing as "boot repair" [18:13] boot repair is recommended in Ubuntus help, but it's not included in Xubuntu 12.04 [18:13] Anybody ? [18:14] you need to create a dedicated partition at the begining of the disk for uefi [18:15] dont ask me why i never did it, but from people who have done it thats what they said [18:15] Kuzorra: I've heard 12.04 don't works with the "Secure boot". So you may need to install 12.10 64 bit instead. Also, sometimes your Windows is installed in Bios (Legacy) mode, while you're USB keys boot in UEFI by default. You need to know in what mode your Windows is installed. [18:16] your* USB keys, sorry. [18:16] Thanks gridcube, but would it also be possible to create a live-cd with ubuntu to boot & repair my xubuntu installation? [18:17] Kuzorra, yes, bootrepair should know what to do [18:17] !bootrepair [18:17] men ubottu [18:17] !info boot-repair [18:17] Package boot-repair does not exist in quantal [18:17] GGGGGGGGGGGGOOD GODS [18:17] Win7 should boot in Uefi, that's why I choose Uefi for Linux live-usb too! But I get no grub. [18:18] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [18:18] Kuzorra, ^^^^^^^^ [18:18] I'll check ^^^ [18:19] It doesn't say which versions it works with [18:19] version of what? [18:20] Version of (X)ubuntu [18:20] all of the latests ones [18:21] I'm currently running windows, Xubuntu is only accessible via live-usb, so I'd have to leave the chat and reboot to try any of those suggestions [18:21] yes [18:21] you should [18:21] is it possible to convert my installation in an EASY way? [18:21] boot-repair its the best of all aproachs [18:22] its by far, and i mean by farest far, the easiest way [18:22] so you're saying it should be possible to install it in my live system? [18:22] Kuzorra, have you read the page? [18:22] its what you have to do, it works [18:23] The page is talking about an ubuntu that comes with boot repair included, nothing about install [18:23] SORRY [18:23] idiots [18:23] ? [18:24] just read it again, of course it should be possible......I hope it does! [18:24] Thanks a lot for your help, I'll try it immediately! [18:24] :) good luck [18:29] hi all .. does someone know how to change the xubuntu username in the live-cd -- the usual way to change /etc/casper.conf doesnt work because the file gets somewhere modified [18:29] xubuntu876: Please see what I said above. [18:35] @unit193 ... username and host gets always changed back to xubuntu in the file [18:35] xubuntu876: See the example config http://0bin.net/paste/16cc78c6a893b271d30de10c23303d1dad256e92#m1KaYUEs3Zyij/YCvMWH5RDTBg2G4vmRwNt98IQJMrQ= note the bottom part, very important! [18:36] I need help booting xubuntu from usb key... after choosing "try out without installing" it stalls... why could that be? [18:42] nicofs: How long have you waited? [18:43] Unit193, more than acceptable... from minutes to letting it try for an hour... [18:43] i386, amd64, xubuntu and ubuntu# [18:44] @unit193 .. will check it .. i didnt comment out FLAVOUR .. but in the original file is written ubuntu not xubuntu .. so that is changed somewhere ..btw using 12.04 lts [18:44] Indeed. I'd recommend you hitting the "Check disk for defects", and remove the "quiet splash" options during boot. You can also hit Esc when the Xubuntu throbber pulls up to show you what's going on more. [18:46] ok .. im going to check [18:47] Could not booting be a driver issue? [18:47] Hey ho, it worked! [18:47] Thanks again GridCube! [18:48] :D [18:48] wooooo :D [18:48] I tried boot-repair via apt-get before, but I forgot to add the repo.......noooob! [18:49] Now all you have to do is tell me how I can make the "Canoscan 3000" work :D [18:50] It's my dad's machine and his old scanner won't work with win7, but it seems to be unsupported in xubuntu as well :-( [18:51] .....neither SANE nor anything else seems to work with it, crappy Canon! [18:52] ....maybe I'll add XP as a third OS on a separate harddisk just for those rare scanning events. [19:00] Kuzorra, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsane/+question/77262 [19:02] @unit193 i changed caspar.conf .. now name changed but i end on the loginbox without a password knowing [19:15] Hmmmm, seems tricky. I'll give it a shot later, right now I'm working on my machine [19:18] ....but the hint given is related to a devie named "N650U", maybe the 3000 will work with xsane anyway (although loads of other sites say it won't) [19:20] afk, I'll check [19:24] Get:1936 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main xfonts-mathml all 6ubuntu1 [42.5 kB] Fetched 1330 MB in 6s (61.6 kB/s) [19:24] Can someone help me booting from usb? it just won't work and i don't know why... [19:24] P: [19:24] nicofs, how are you making the usb boot? [19:25] GridCube, startup disk creator and unetbootin [19:25] not at the same time, obviously [19:25] ok [19:26] do your bios is set up to boot from usb? or can you press f11 or f12 to choose boot media? [19:27] GridCube, i even get to either grub or the select menu - but after choosing any option (i.e. "try without installing") the process stalls. [19:27] ok [19:27] GridCube, i tried "nomodeset" - no change [19:27] what computer do you have? [19:29] GridCube, self-built... ASRock B75 Pro3-M Intel B75 board, Intel i5 and Geforce GTX 660 [19:30] !uefi | nicofs [19:30] nicofs: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [19:31] nicofs, please do, please, read that help page throughfully [19:31] GridCube, so basically i need a different image... [19:31] no [19:31] no [19:31] just read [19:34] GridCube, but why do they suggest the secure remix as step one? [19:34] because they do, i cant avoid that [19:35] GridCube, so i don't need that? otherwise i can start the download while i read through the rest... [19:35] you dont need it, you can install the xubuntu iso [19:35] it has to be the 64bit one though [19:38] GridCube, I did try to start in UEFI mode - and i get to the "try without..." bit. but after that installation stalls... [19:38] i wouldnt happen to know how to help there nicofs [19:39] Kuzorra, you there? === Shadow__1 is now known as Shadow__X [19:49] Where would I set nomodeset in grub? [19:50] 'e' to edit options, obviously - but where do i add it? [19:52] nicofs: Right after where you might see: quiet splash [19:53] damn... did that, doesn't solve the issue... [19:54] Anyone expert on boot issues? [19:58] If it wasn't UEFI maybe :( [19:59] what really annoys me is that windows booted without issues... [20:04] As I gather that's sort of the reasoning behind it... === Catbuntu is now known as Camel` === Camel` is now known as Catbuntu === Noskcaj is now known as Noskcaj_afk === Catbuntu is now known as Camel` === Guest8979 is now known as ponbiki