[08:14] <snovaki> Hi! is there any docs about how to add high availability to a maas installation or how to backup/restore a maas instance? i don't want maas to be a single point of failure...
[11:47] <ingard> hi guys. Is there a way I can easily change the sources.list file that is installed on nodes?
[14:35] <roaksoax> allenap: howdy! so arenyou guys gonna do the FPI work?
[14:35] <roaksoax> rvba ^^
[14:36] <roaksoax> (all of it?)
[14:36] <rvba> Hi roaksoax, allenap is working on this, he will reply to you in just a sec ;)
[14:37] <racedo> hey roaksoax morning
[14:37] <roaksoax> rvba: cool thanks
[14:37] <roaksoax> racedo: Hi Ramon
[14:38] <racedo> roaksoax: could it be that python-django-piston in precise doesn't get well with django 1.4 as someone has pointed out in maas-devel?
[14:38] <racedo> i think that's what's breaking my maas on precise
[14:39] <allenap> roaksoax: I'm going to do some of it, so that you & smoser can switch between the traditional and fp installers.
[14:40] <roaksoax> allenap: ack! thanks
[14:40] <roaksoax> racedo: uhmmm
[14:40] <racedo> roaksoax:  your latest changelog for the quantal version mentions _is_string depending on the django version which is what i'm hiting i think
[14:41] <rvba> racedo: I came to the same conclusion, see my comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1124085
[14:41] <roaksoax> rvba: could you please take a look at ^^
[14:42] <racedo> oh thanks rvba
[14:43] <roaksoax> racedo: he is probably best to help you with celery :-)
[14:43] <racedo> ok, so no django 1.4 for maas
[14:43] <racedo> roaksoax: gracias :)
[14:44] <roaksoax> :-)
[14:44] <rvba> racedo: the problem is the version of piston in precise.  maas itself works with django 1.4.
[14:44] <racedo> but i cannot install the ubuntu2 version of piston
[14:44] <racedo> in precise
[14:45] <racedo> well, i can but it breaks something else
[14:48] <racedo> rvba: ok, i got it, my django 1.4 comes from the ubuntu-cloud repository, all i need then is to get the django 1.3.1 from maas-maintainers
[14:48] <racedo> rvba: thanks again
[14:48] <rvba> racedo: np
[14:57] <rvba> roaksoax: btw, I wanted to ask you, were are we at with the new images? (bug 1115178 and bug 1115175)
[15:02] <roaksoax> rvba: I'm waiting on those images too :)
[15:03] <roaksoax> smoser: any ETA on the raring images?
[15:03] <rvba> roaksoax: okay :)
[15:27] <smoser> roaksoax, raring dailies are there now
[15:28] <roaksoax> rvba: ^^
[15:28] <roaksoax> smoser: awesome thnaks!
[15:28] <smoser> roaksoax, by design, the released would not come until at least we claimed something as release (alpha or beta or release)
[15:28] <roaksoax> smoser: ack!
[15:29] <rvba> smoser: thanks
[15:31] <smoser> roaksoax, i'm interested in seeing/knowing if the raring ephemerals actually boot successfully now with mellanox
[15:31] <smoser> they should
[15:31] <roaksoax> smoser: are you going to SRU bug #1115710 ?
[15:32] <roaksoax> smoser: heh :)
[15:33] <roaksoax> smoser: so this would not only work for the the ephemeral images, but also for the actual initrd right?
[15:33] <roaksoax> smoser: i think this needs to be SRU'd
[15:33] <smoser> well, the raring installer should have this fix
[15:33] <smoser> so raring should work all the way through.
[15:33] <smoser> now, the ephemeral image change, i think i've already shoved in to dailies for quantal and precise
[15:34] <smoser> but the installer changes will have to be sru'd.
[15:34] <smoser> (2 ephemeral changes: 1.) patch-or-have module-init-tools with fix 2.) build NETBOOT initramfs
[15:34] <rvba> roaksoax: I'm told raring won't have alpha releases… and the beta is scheduled March 28th.  Does this mean we will have to wait until that day to get a working MAAS package?
[15:35] <smoser> over time, the sru of module-init-tools will get into installer images so that should work for quantal and precise also
[15:35] <smoser> but, yeah, we need to verify that that works
[15:35] <smoser> and then also really verify that it works on precise
[15:35] <smoser> and then sur
[15:35] <smoser> sur
[15:35] <smoser> sru
[15:35] <roaksoax> smoser: right but for precise, if we SRU now it should become available for 12.03.2
[15:35] <roaksoax> err
[15:35] <roaksoax> 12.04.2
[15:36] <roaksoax> rvba: really? i though we were having alpha releases
[15:36] <smoser> roaksoax, i'm all for sru. lyou an fil out the sru template.
[15:36] <smoser> but really, i want to see that the fix *ACTUALLY WORKS*
[15:36] <smoser> before doing so
[15:36] <smoser> :)
[15:36] <roaksoax> smoser: yeah... which means that we need hardware to test it with :/
[15:37] <smoser> EntropyWorks, ^
[15:37] <smoser> EntropyWorks has such hardware....
[15:37] <rvba> roaksoax: well, you tell me… Alpha 2 is tomorrow.  But https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule says "for opt-in flavors".
[15:40] <roaksoax> rvba: i guess that would work for server then
[15:43] <rvba> roaksoax: then this is great news, it means we will have the images tomorrow :)
[15:43] <roaksoax> smoser: could you confirm ^^
[15:44] <smoser> rvba, we can have "released" images of raring tomorrow if you want to do that.
[15:45] <smoser> those are not official ubuntu deliverables
[15:45] <smoser> (and there are not actually *any* required deliverables prior to release any more... odd.. but true)
[15:45] <smoser> if you want that, we can do it. we just basically promote a daily build to "released" and slap a label on it.
[15:45] <smoser> so we can do that for "alpha-2" tomorrow.
[15:46] <rvba> smoser: well, we need something to fix 1115178.  Either we have images or we fix the script so that it does not blow up when some images cannot be found.
[15:46] <smoser> but i need someone to actually *test* stuff and verifiy it works.
[15:46] <smoser> rvba, well someone shouldn't have committed code that didnt work!
[15:47] <rvba> smoser: I'm 100% with you on this one.
[15:48] <smoser> it is good to get those images out, though, and if we can get an enlistment test with a daily from even today, then we can mark it "released"
[15:49] <smoser> i'd like to hvae the ame kernel as the cloud-images alpha-2, but other than that, i have no real concern.
[15:49] <rvba> roaksoax: what's the reasoning behind adding "raring" to the list of the downloaded images before the images actually exist again?
[15:49] <smoser> (same kernel version number).
[15:49] <roaksoax> rvba: people needed to test raring
[15:49] <roaksoax> rvba: please feel free to disable it by default
[15:49] <rvba> Ok, chicken and egg problem then :)
[15:50] <roaksoax> rvba: then we will have to SRU it
[15:50] <roaksoax> once raring is released
[15:53] <rvba> roaksoax: ok, I'll comment out the changes made in https://code.launchpad.net/~andreserl/maas/raring_support/+merge/145523
[15:54] <roaksoax> rvba: hold on
[15:54] <rvba> With a reference to bug 1115178.
[15:54] <roaksoax> rvba: we still need raring
[15:54] <roaksoax> rvba: people still wants to deploy raring
[15:54] <roaksoax> rvba: so just remove raring from RELEASES in etc/maas/import_pxe_files
[15:55] <rvba> roaksoax: ok
[15:55] <roaksoax> rvba: the fact that we don't have an alpha's nor ISO's, doesn't mean that we are not releasing netboot images (which we are
[16:02] <rvba> roaksoax: https://code.launchpad.net/~rvb/maas/bug-1115178/+merge/148219
[16:02] <roaksoax> rvba: thanks :)
[17:44] <unwel> hi all, what do people commonly use as the region/cluster controller server? a virtual machine? another dedicated server?
[17:58] <roaksoax> unwel: depends on what you want :)
[17:58] <roaksoax> or your environment
[18:01] <unwel> roaksoax: i'm still not 100% clear on the region cluster server, is it just like pxe? can i turn it on and off when i feel like?
[18:02] <roaksoax> unwel: the region is where the database resides, the webui, and the node that juju communicates too
[18:02] <roaksoax> so nope :)
[18:03] <unwel> so i'll need a dedicated-ish high availability server for this?
[18:04] <unwel> i just made that up
[18:15] <roaksoax> unwel: yeah you could put the region on HA
[18:24] <unwel> roaksoax: what happens when if the region goes down? how hard is it to rebuild it in a worst case scenario?
[18:25] <roaksoax> unwel: that's why you need HA
[18:32] <racedo> any reason why sudo dpkg-reconfigure [ -plow ] maas-dhcp doesn't do anything?
[19:19] <unwel> thanks roaksoax
[23:21] <EntropyWorks> where should I be looking to add Raring as a choice when adding a new node.  /usr/share/pyshared/maasserver/enum.py appears to have it defined there.  but thats not something I want to modify.