[04:59] <pitti> Good morning
[05:26] <Mirv> morning
[06:12] <didrocks> good morning
[06:42] <pitti> hey didrocks
[06:42] <didrocks> good morning pitti, how are you?
[06:42] <pitti> didrocks: splendid, thanks! yourself?
[06:43] <didrocks> pitti: I'm ok. Hoping that one day UTAH can successfully provides an image. 100% of failure since last Thursday (not counting Monday due to the snow storm and datacenter down)
[06:43] <didrocks> so blocking all daily releases…
[06:45] <pitti> :(
[06:59] <kenvandine> good morning didrocks
[07:00] <didrocks> kenvandine: good… evening? still awaken, what are you doing dude? :-)
[07:00] <robru> didrocks, I think ken is channelling my insomnia tonight ;-)
[07:00] <didrocks> robru: I think we shouldn't pair both of you thinking about it ;-)
[07:00] <kenvandine> couldn't sleep until i knew the friends tests passed on armhf again
[07:01] <didrocks> kenvandine: ahah, and it's ok now? :)
[07:01] <kenvandine> all good now... i should sleep :)
[07:01] <robru> kenvandine, but those were fixed two hours ago ;-)
[07:01] <kenvandine> yeah yeah...
[07:01] <didrocks> kenvandine: hope you didn't add all your sleep() in the tests and none is left for you!
[07:01] <kenvandine> hehe
[07:01] <robru> didrocks, lol
[07:02] <didrocks> guys, it's 8am here now, I've already starting working one hour ago, I expect normally just to see a pitti around :-)
[07:03] <robru> didrocks, but if I signed off at a normal time, I would never get to talk to you!
[07:03] <didrocks> robru: heh, indeed :-) btw, what time the team meeting is for you? We can maybe move it so that you can attend
[07:04] <robru> didrocks, it is at 8:30 AM for me usually... it is quite early for me, I normally wake up at 11AM ;-)
[07:04] <kenvandine> well i am going to stop hacking and get some sleep... i'll be back in a few hours :)
[07:04] <didrocks> kenvandine: enjoy!
[07:04] <robru> kenvandine, gnight
[07:04] <didrocks> robru: well, basically, it's a cause-consequence of signing off late :-)
[07:05] <robru> didrocks, yeah, it's true... but I do my best work from 6PM to 2AM ;-)
[07:05] <didrocks> robru: coders being active at night, rings a bell to me :-)
[07:05] <didrocks> only doing that on my pet projects on week-end though ;)
[07:14] <dpm> good morning desktop people
[07:14] <didrocks> hey dpm, how are you?
[07:15] <pitti> hey dpm, how are you?
[07:15] <dpm> hey didrocks, pitti, very well, slowly waking up, and how are you guys?
[07:15] <pitti> dpm: very well, thanks
[07:15] <didrocks> dpm: I'm ok, thanks :)
[07:15] <dpm> super :)
[07:16] <didrocks> dpm: FYI, we have already a lot of Qt5 components in raring, Mirv is finishing up qtwebkit and then will go on qtcreator. This will enable us to have the sdk then in the distro :)
[07:16] <pitti> dpm: do you know when we'll get raring langpack exports?
[07:16] <dpm> didrocks, yeah, that's pretty awesome
[07:19] <dpm> pitti, unfortunately I haven't had time to look into that, I've spent nearly no time on translations this cycle :/. I need to set the export times and request the cron job to be changed in Launchpad. But it's been too long without langpacks, I'll do it this evening.
[07:19] <pitti> dpm: ah, cheers
[08:17] <marga> RAOF, ping?
[08:39] <RAOF> marga: Yo!
[08:39] <chrisccoulson> good morning
[08:40] <RAOF> marga: So, I've read your bug. I'd guess it's an interaction between gdm & mutter; lock screen & screensaver responsibilities have been getting rejigged.
[08:41] <seb128> hey desktopers
[08:41] <RAOF> marga: Another option might be to apitrace mutter; that should at least tell you what mutter *thinks* it's drawing.
[08:42] <marga> all my tests were with lightdm
[08:42] <marga> I didn't even think of testing with gdm...
[08:42] <RAOF> That's probably your problem; gnome-shell no longer handles the screen lock, IIRC.
[08:42] <RAOF> Or something like that.
[08:43]  * RAOF → dinner
[08:43] <marga> ok, then I can test this with gdm
[08:43] <seb128> marga, hey, what's the issue?
[08:43] <marga> Assuming it doesn't fail with gdm and fails with lightdm, how should I proceed?
[08:44] <marga> seb128, blue screen on the left screen when using two screens, and a pop up happens during a screen lock
[08:45] <seb128> under gnome-shell? is the right screen locked correctly?
[08:45] <seb128> what ubuntu serie? precise?
[08:45] <marga> reproducible in gnome and cinnamon, but not unity, regardless of the screensaver (gnome and x)
[08:45] <marga> precise, yes
[08:46] <seb128> gdm doesn't do screen locking yet in that serie
[08:46] <BigWhale> Good morning everyone.
[08:46] <seb128> seems like a gnome-shell/mutter issue to me
[08:47] <seb128> marga, similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1061787 (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-slOE3M9ABEA/UGyt0TmoHlI/AAAAAAAADwU/QaqxfZjplzM/s800/photo.JPG)?
[08:47] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1061787 in Ubuntu "Dual Monitor Lock Screen Dialog Hidden" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[08:48] <marga> OH, I had pasted some bugs
[08:48] <marga> but yes, it's that bug
[08:48] <marga> also, graphics card doesn't matter, intel, nvidia, different models, reproducible any time you have 2 screens.
[08:50] <marga> I'm guessing this is probably reported like 10 times on different packages, because nobody knows which is the right package.
[08:51] <marga> Now, I will test this with gdm, I'll be away a few minutes
[08:51] <seb128> marga, ok
[08:52] <seb128> marga, could be the same as https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=662757
[08:52] <ubot2> Gnome bug 662757 in general "Gnome-Shell lock screen does not always display password prompt" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[09:02] <marga> Ok, I've tested it with gdm, and the issue is still there.  Even worse, the parent window of the popup appears on top of the blue
[09:06] <marga> seb128, I think it's something related to mutter/clutter, but that's something that's quite different between gnome and cinnamon.  I wasn't able to find the common factor.
[09:07] <seb128> marga, yeah, the gdm angle would make sense for >= quantal where the screen locking is done by gdm but you are on precise, I'm not surprised that didn't make a difference
[09:08] <seb128> marga, cinnamon is quite different but it's a fork of gnome-shell and most of the underlining rendering techs are the same, I doubt they changed rendering in there, they are more interested by UI/worflow changes
[09:09] <seb128> marga, did you try asking about the issue on #gnome-hackers (mention that you use g-s 3.4.1 if you ask there)
[09:09] <Laney> hey
[09:09] <seb128> Laney, hey, how are you?
[09:09] <Laney> good, had a lot of pancakes last night ;-)
[09:09] <Laney> you?
[09:10] <seb128> I'm good thanks ;-)
[09:10] <marga> seb128, I haven't.  I have been trying to first find which program is the failing one, before asking.
[09:10] <marga> is that here, or in gnome's irc?
[09:10] <seb128> marga, it seems pretty likely that the issue is with clutter/mutter/gnome-shell at this point
[09:10] <seb128> marga, on irc.gnome.org
[09:11] <marga> ok, will ask there
[09:12] <seb128> Laney, it seems the uk are pretty big on pancake for that day ... is it call pancake day?
[09:12] <Laney> yeah, but the formal name is shrove tuesday
[09:13] <seb128> ok
[09:13] <seb128> we usually makes fritters here (at least in my corner of France, could be a German thing)
[09:14] <Laney> it is a tradition i fully support :P
[09:14] <seb128> didrocks will probably tell us that real France does it differently :p
[09:14] <Laney> ah, for the same reason though?
[09:14] <seb128> yes
[09:14] <Laney> eating rich foods before lent
[09:14] <seb128> it's just fritters instead of pancakes
[09:14]  * didrocks backlogs in a sec, after some busy chats :p
[09:14] <seb128> pancakes are not really a french thing afaik
[09:16] <seb128> Laney, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrove_Tuesday
[09:16] <Laney> yeah you have crepes ;-)
[09:16] <seb128> they mention it's fat tuesday for us :p
[09:18] <didrocks> we have also la "chandeleur" for crepes
[09:23] <seb128> didrocks, do you eat beignets for mardi gras?
[09:23] <didrocks> seb128: I never eat beignets, waffles/crêpes :)
[09:23] <didrocks> well, not this year, I finished late working…
[09:24] <seb128> didrocks, well, is beignets the traditional mardi gras food in paris/lyon?
[09:24] <didrocks> but normally, it's more those 2 in real part of France :)
[09:24] <seb128> I'm just wondering if that's a german thing
[09:24] <didrocks> so waffles/crêpes
[09:24] <seb128> right, what I though
[09:24] <didrocks> I would say german thing :)
[09:24] <seb128> \o/
[09:25] <seb128> marga, not so much luck on #gnome-hackers, it might be a bit early still for europeans and very early or very late for the U.S... let's see maybe somebody will reply in a while
[09:25] <seb128> marga, I will pick it up and try to get infos if that happens after you left
[09:26] <marga> Yes, I have no problem waiting.
[09:26]  * mlankhorst is awake! Oui!
[09:26] <seb128> mlankhorst, good morning ;-)
[09:26] <marga> I don't have an irc proxy for gnome, though, so I'll have to disconnect when I leave the office.
[09:26] <mlankhorst> morning
[09:26] <marga> I hope I get some reply before that.
[09:26] <mlankhorst> but seriously if I'm awake for about an hour or 2 now it can't be early for europeans
[09:26] <mlankhorst> :P
[09:26] <seb128> marga, where are you based?
[09:27] <marga> As I said, I've been chasing this for months, so it's not terrible to wait for other people to come online
[09:27] <marga> seb128, Munich
[09:27] <seb128> marga, seems already tz wise to still be around for some time ;-)
[09:27] <seb128> already->alright
[09:27]  * seb128 needs coffee
[09:43] <jibel> seb128, the leak in g-s-d, bug 1123930
[09:43] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1123930 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "memleak in plugins/orientation/gsd-orientation-manager.c" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1123930
[09:45] <seb128> jibel, thanks a lot for tracking it down
[09:45] <seb128> why am I not surprised, yet another bug coming from a distro patch
[09:49] <marga> :-/
[10:13] <seb128> Sweetshark, well done on getting libreoffice4 uploaded
[10:16] <seb128> Sweetshark, seems to depwait on libmspub-dev ... did you open a MIR for that lib, I didn't find one
[10:17] <seb128> Sweetshark, same for libcdr and libvisio
[10:53] <seb128> Laney, sessioninstaller on new techs \o/
[10:53] <Laney> \o/ indeed
[10:53] <Laney> it's still python 2 though
[10:54] <seb128> is there any port blocker? or just nobody got to it yet?
[10:54] <Laney> xapian i think
[10:56] <seb128> of course, xapian, what else...
[10:59] <Laney> barry was looking into it I believe but came up against that
[10:59] <Laney> don't hold your breath
[11:39] <seb128> dpm, hey, can you approve https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/gnome-control-center-unity/+imports ?
[11:40] <dpm> hey seb128, done
[11:40] <seb128> dpm, thanks ;-)
[12:47] <seb128> Laney, cool, the guy already replied with a postive comment on the gst SRU
[12:47] <seb128> Laney, I guess you can tag it and upload yours ;-)
[12:47] <Laney> good stuff
[12:59] <Sweetshark> seb128: bug 1124074, bug 1124082 and bug 1124092. dammit, I thought I did that along with the sync requests.
[12:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1124074 in libcdr (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libcdr" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1124074
[12:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1124082 in libmspub (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libmspub" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1124082
[12:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1124092 in libvisio (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libvisio" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1124092
[13:34] <rvgate> How come my unity-2d session still has animations when switching windows and workspaces? :/ i thought that wasnt available on unity-2d
[13:57] <seb128> dpm, do you have any magic to wave https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/gnome-control-center-unity/+imports those in?
[13:58] <seb128> dpm, I reuploade the g-c-c .po files updated to restore existing translations under the new domain by uploading a tarball with the .pot and the .po set
[13:58] <seb128> dpm, but stupid launchpad decided to put them on hold for review
[13:59] <seb128> dpm, I can't be bothered to go through 120 pages to just pick a domain and click approve though ;-)
[14:00] <seb128> well, and to be fair it's all mterry's fault, he's clearly a non-american-speakers hater
[14:00]  * mterry clearly signed on too early
[14:00] <mterry> seb128, is this the dh-translations fix?  thanks for that
[14:00] <seb128> mterry, hey! ;-)
[14:01]  * ogra_ notes down "mterry ar fault"
[14:01] <seb128> mterry, part of, I imported the g-c-c .po stack in rosetta after a make update-po in g-c-c-unity to recover translations
[14:01] <ogra_> *at
[14:01] <seb128> mterry, but stupid launchpad wants those to be manually valided before being important, I was checking with dpm if he has magic for that
[14:02] <seb128> mterry, I don't want to click-click-click through 100 import pages
[14:02] <mterry> seb128, how come part of the translations were coming through?
[14:02] <seb128> mterry, oh, thanks for pointing it out
[14:02] <seb128> mterry, I guess there is a code bug and it's loading those from the g-c-c domain
[14:02] <seb128> mterry, we need to fix the code to use g-c-c-unity
[14:03] <mterry> seb128, heyo, when you make changes to an autolanding trunk, you don't need to modify debian/changelog.
[14:04] <mterry> seb128, do you mind dropping that bit, and I can approve?
[14:04] <seb128> mterry, I was not sure if it was autolanding, changelog version is not having a daily*
[14:04] <mterry> seb128, it should be...  didrocks, g-c-c-unity is autolanding now right?
[14:04] <GunnarHj> pitti: ping?
[14:05] <seb128> mterry, he said it is, I pinged after sending the mr though
[14:05] <pitti> hey GunnarHj, how are you?
[14:05] <GunnarHj> pitti: I'm fine, thanks. Hope you are as well.
[14:05] <seb128> mterry, you want me to drop the changelog part then?
[14:05] <GunnarHj> pitti: Is the fix of bug 37707 safe enough for a Precise SRU?
[14:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 37707 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "language-selector should not uninstall packages without a warning (allow opt-out)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37707
[14:07] <seb128> mterry, I will fix the gettext domain stuff as well ... want it in the same MR?
[14:08] <mterry> seb128, please drop the changelog part, yeah.  Sure, throw it in there
[14:08] <seb128> in fact ignore that
[14:08] <seb128> I don't see what's wrong
[14:08] <pitti> GunnarHj: yes, I think it is; adding a precise task
[14:08] <seb128> I though it was because your trunk was missing a config.h to define PACKAGE
[14:09] <seb128> since configure.ac:GETTEXT_PACKAGE="$PACKAGE"
[14:09] <seb128> but from a build tree that's ok
[14:10] <GunnarHj> pitti: Ok, thanks, then I'll add it to an already existing Precise branch.
[14:14] <dpm> hey seb128, let me have a look
[14:15] <seb128> dpm, thanks
[14:16] <seb128> mterry, ok, pushed without the changelog diff
[14:16] <mterry> seb128, just approved!
[14:16] <seb128> mterry, thanks ;-)
[14:17] <seb128> mterry, strace shows it's trying to open the gnome-control-center-unity.mo, I'm not sure why it's working, it seems to try both domains ... I will try again once I've a .mo for the new domain
[14:17] <mterry> seb128, wait...  new domain?  gnome-control-center-unity isn't the right one?
[14:17] <seb128> mterry, but afaik translations should be ok with the next langpack update
[14:17] <dpm> seb128, mterry, only the .pot file needs to be approved, and once that happens then the PO files get auto-imported. I see that the .pot file I approved earlier on has already been imported, so the .po files should shortly follow
[14:18] <seb128> mterry, it is, but the .pot was blocked in import queue so we don't have a g-c-c-unity in the langpacks atm
[14:18] <mterry> k
[14:18] <dpm> is this a package coming from the upstream g-c-c?
[14:18] <mterry> dpm, no, this is from Canonical PS
[14:18] <seb128> dpm, the .po from where?
[14:18] <seb128> dpm, mterry: I hacked around ..
[14:18] <seb128> dpm, short summary is
[14:18] <seb128> - we move code from g-c-c (upstream) to g-c-c-unity
[14:18] <seb128> I did
[14:19] <seb128> - cp g-c-c/po/*.po g-c-c-unity/po
[14:19] <seb128> cd g-c-c-unity/po
[14:19] <seb128> intltool-update --pot
[14:19] <seb128> make update-po
[14:19] <seb128> for i in *.po; do msgattrib --no-obsolete $i -o $i; done
[14:19] <seb128> tar czf that up
[14:19] <tjaalton> there's something that blocks lightdm-greeter from appearing for ~25s here, anyone having the same?
[14:19] <tjaalton> on current raring
[14:20] <seb128> uploaded to https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/gnome-control-center-unity/+pots/gnome-control-center-unity/+upload
[14:20] <seb128> dpm, ^
[14:20] <seb128> dpm, the goal was to restore the translations from the g-c-c domain
[14:20] <dpm> seb128, ok, so the translations are a mixture from upstream and Ubuntu-specific strings. Then for the other question: did you add the .pot file in that tarball you updated?
[14:20] <seb128> dpm, I did
[14:21] <dpm> ok, in that case those PO files should get imported automatically
[14:21] <seb128> they don't
[14:21] <seb128> I have to go through and pick the domain in the combo and do ack
[14:21] <seb128> I did for some 15 translations
[14:21] <seb128> see https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/gnome-control-center-unity/+pots/gnome-control-center-unity/
[14:22] <dpm> seb128, it usually takes a while for them to get imported automatically after the template has been approved, especially if the imports queue is full. Your manually-approved translations are probably marked as Approved but not Imported. Let me double-check
[14:22] <seb128> dpm, they are imported, see the page I pointed
[14:22] <seb128> dpm, anyway if that sorts out over time great
[14:24] <dpm> seb128, yeah, let's check in a couple of hours to see if they eventually got imported, and if not, let me think how we can get them imported without breaking our fingers clicking on the web UI
[14:25] <Laney> you can likely use the API to do that
[14:25] <seb128> dpm, well, middle click/import on ~90 url is like 10 min work, so not worth too much thinking
[14:25] <seb128> 10min at max
[14:25] <seb128> likely 5
[14:25] <Laney> transition_import_queue_entry.setStatus
[14:25] <seb128> e.g less time than writing a script
[14:25] <marga> but really annoying
[14:26] <marga> Should I insist on gnome-hackers?
[14:30] <tjaalton> hm, authenticating the lightdm session is what takes ~25s
[14:37] <ogra_> tjaalton, surely because of the complex finnish usernames :)
[14:38] <chrisccoulson> i wonder where this build of glib comes from? https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/712274b4-f009-4ae7-9a9c-4c7fc2130212
[14:47] <tjaalton> ogra_: it's the 'lightdm' uid :)
[14:47] <tjaalton> once it's authenticated, greeter starts
[14:47] <ogra_> wow
[14:47] <ogra_> thats ecil
[14:47] <ogra_> *evil
[14:48] <tjaalton> yeah, my laptop isn't affected
[14:52] <didrocks> mterry: seb128: it's as you wish, you can keep the changelog or just attach a bug to the MP
[14:52] <Laney> or set the commit message on it
[14:53] <Laney> IIUC
[14:53] <didrocks> mterry: seb128: if the bug # was referenced with your name somewhere in the changelog, this bug won't be duplicated in it
[14:53] <didrocks> mterry: seb128: the only thing to ensure is that you leave it UNRELEASED ;)
[14:53]  * mterry likes consistency of auto-changelogging
[14:54] <didrocks> sure, just explaining that it's smart and that I have an automated test for that :p
[14:54] <qengho> /usr/bin/ld.gold.real: fatal error: out/Release/chrome: mmap: failed to allocate 1596311736 bytes for output file: Cannot allocate memory
[14:54]  * qengho hugs this project.
[14:55] <ogra_> 1596311736 bytes ?
[14:55] <ogra_> they should have printed it in bits  :P
[14:55] <qengho> Scientific notation.  1.5e9 or something.
[14:55] <didrocks> qengho: hey!
[14:55] <didrocks> qengho: it seems you didn't answer to Will yet (and I checked chromium, there is not plugin recommends ;))
[14:55] <didrocks> just a kind reminder ;)
[14:56] <qengho> didrocks: will do.
[14:56] <didrocks> thanks
[15:26] <seb128> mterry, not sure if you saw but Sweetshark filed some MIRs for libreoffice4 ... review this week, if you can, would be really nice ;-)
[15:28] <seb128> mterry, I'm sure you efforts will be welcomed with some free beers next week ;-)
[15:30] <mterry> seb128, in the middle of 'em now
[15:34] <ogra_> oh, WOW !
[15:34] <ogra_> i left my nexus7 idling over the last two days
[15:35] <ogra_> seems gnome-settings-daemon accumulated 146M RES
[15:35] <ogra_> jani should better upload that fix soon :)
[15:41] <didrocks> qengho: thanks!
[15:58] <mterry> Sweetshark, was libmspub in libreoffice source before, or is that actually new functionality?
[16:04] <mterry> seems to be new
[17:07] <Sweetshark> mterry: mspub is a feature of LO4. libcdr and libvisio are old.
[17:07] <mterry> Sweetshark, cool.  I guessed as much.  I commented on all 3 MIRs
[17:37] <Sweetshark> mterry: thanks for the comments. I will try to dig out what is going on with the fortify stuff there.
[17:39] <mterry> Sweetshark, it's possible it's just false positives.  http://lintian.debian.org/tags/hardening-no-fortify-functions.html  gives several reasons for the tag
[17:40] <Sweetshark> mterry: do you know the gcc flag that needs to be passed on by chance?
[17:44] <seb128> Sweetshark, -fstack-protector I think
[17:46] <seb128> Sweetshark, -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE as well
[17:46] <seb128> Sweetshark, see /usr/share/doc/hardening-wrapper/README.Debian
[17:49] <mterry> Yeah, what seb128 said
[17:54] <Laney> if you use compat 9 with dh you get them set automatically
[18:12] <Sweetshark> mterry: btw I like the moral hazard you create for me to break debian policies and ship with an internal version once, so that I can skip the security review. :->
[18:14] <Sweetshark> .oO( OTOH I wonder when the initial security review to have LibreOffice in main was dont and how much it is stuff relevant for the current codebase ... )
[18:14] <Sweetshark> s/stuff/still/
[18:15] <mterry> Sweetshark, :)
[18:16] <mterry> Sweetshark, I know.  The whole MIR thing as a one-time check is a tad fragile.
[18:16] <mterry> Sweetshark, one could push a new trivial one-line script into main, then blow it up to an office suite with little oversight
[18:17] <Sweetshark> mterry: well, I guess it works decently for a for most other stuff, but the libreoffice source package is essentially a distro on its own (on other platforms it certainly is).
[18:18]  * didrocks waves good evening
[18:28] <seb128> Sweetshark, trying to work around the MIR/security guys? ;-)
[18:29] <jdstrand> you guys realize we are listening, right?
[18:29] <jdstrand> :P
[18:29] <seb128> lol
[18:29] <seb128> Sweetshark, see, you better hide now :p
[18:31] <sarnold> (I just hope the outcome isn't 'sarnold go audit main/* every six months...)
[18:33] <ogra_> did you just volunteer ?
[18:33] <sarnold> nopes.
[18:33] <ogra_> but it totally sounded like
[18:33] <sarnold> (I wonder how ogra_ can read my thoughts ...)
[18:33] <seb128> sarnold, I think you did
[18:34] <seb128> I'm with ogra there
[18:34] <ogra_> :)
[18:34] <seb128> I can sense you wanted to step up, no need to be shy ;-)
[18:34] <Sweetshark> sarnold, jdstrand: one of you reviews libreoffice, the other one the rest of main. I wonder who gets the better deal out of that.
[18:34] <sarnold> Sweetshark: lol
[18:34] <ogra_> jdstrand, that guy deserves a good bonus this year, so much passion for his job !
[18:35] <jdstrand> haha
[19:40]  * xnox thought security team's weekly reading is taking all uploaded debdiffs and splitting them up evenly by total lines of code 
[19:40] <mdeslaur> xnox: we only look at yours
[19:40] <xnox> (or better pipe it to audio book converter and listen to it as background music)
[19:40] <xnox> mdeslaur: =)))))
[19:41] <mdeslaur> :)
[19:41]  * xnox totally gets that
[19:41] <mdeslaur> hehe
[20:18] <TheMuso> mterry: I'd argue that a sufficient number of people watch changes that blowing a script up to an office suite could possibly be caught by someone, even if it was hidden in the changelog.
[20:19] <mterry> TheMuso, yeah possibly that extreme example.  :)  But in general, incremental changes to software once it's in main do not get security reviewed or sanity reviewed
[20:20] <TheMuso> Yeah agreed.
[20:49] <squ1d> Anyone know why using pptp vpn on Ubuntu 12.04 will hang while under higher traffic loads with "pppd[17745]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol...
[20:49] <squ1d> really really annoying
[20:49] <squ1d> on Ubuntu 11.04 it stays connected for days
[20:50] <squ1d> on 12.04 i have to reconnect the vpn every few minutes while using too much internet
[20:50] <czajkowski> squ1d: #ubuntu will be better to get support
[20:51] <squ1d> no reponse there yet
[20:51] <squ1d> thanks
[22:40] <xnox> did something recently got uploaded that talks to consolekit unconditionaly?
[22:40] <xnox> e.g. something like g-s-d or dconf?
[22:40] <xnox> or compiz / metacity?
[22:40] <xnox> bug 123798
[22:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 123798 in pidgin (Ubuntu) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123798
[22:40] <xnox> bug 1123798
[22:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1123798 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity-dm crashed with dbus.exceptions.DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Activation of org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit timed out" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1123798
[22:40] <xnox> better.
[22:41] <xnox> cause consolekit was not previously required to start ubiquity-dm mini-session.
[22:41] <xnox> Laney: ^ ? any ideas?