=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [00:54] nOStahl: that's the plan for high-end phones, yes [00:57] that will be real nice [00:58] can't wait to have a phone that I can dock int a laptop style shell [00:58] or dock into a desktop stand with monitor keyboard and mouse etc [00:58] same device for different formfactors [00:58] even a tablet shell [01:55] going through the irc logs of the past two weeks it looks like today was this channel's busiest day. [03:21] mhall119: would it be possible for me to join the file manager team? [03:26] dmd: you don't need to be on the team to contribute code [03:26] all being on the team does is make you responsible for reviewing and landing merge proposals [03:26] cool [03:27] oh ok [03:27] I have a very crude mockup sort [03:27] s/sort// [03:27] no functionality [03:28] still, who should I talk to about contributing? Will there be a meeting? [03:40] ah I did not see the blog post: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps/+announcement/11150 [03:40] good to hear there is no risk of things going undone [03:50] dmd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPhone/CoreApps/DevelopmentGuide talks about how to submit your changes to the project [03:54] yeah I have it in a launchpad branch under my account but I am not sure if it is proper for me to request a merge with my crude mockup [03:55] but I do want to [03:55] could it be merged to a non-mainline branch? [03:56] sorry I should be triggering your highlight: mhall119 [03:59] mhall119: is javascript or c++ prefered for the coreapps? [04:06] dmd: if you think it's ready to be merged into trunk, make an MP, otherwise keep working on it [04:07] if it's a mockup, I'd suggest you blog about it, put it on reddit or the Ubuntu App Developers community on G+ [04:07] that is a good idea [04:08] I'll do that if I can get some functionality in there [04:08] btw, once your branch is on Launchpad, other people can branch it and send their own changes back to you [04:09] true, but I am hoping the file manager team will have something better to work off of [04:09] If checked the past two weeks of irclogs and the mailing list and I have not seen anything from the file manager team. I have no idea what they are doing [04:19] dmd: Kevin Wright is still holding kick-off meetings for the various projects [04:22] do you have any idea when the file manager team is holding theirs? [04:23] i've posted the mockup on google+ [04:39] dmd: no, you'll have to ask Kevin tomorrow (he's on UTC+2 timezone I think) [06:10] howdy guys! So excited about this project, I started coding today. Just a quick question, is there a better source of documentation other then: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/qml-ubuntu-components0-textfield.html [06:11] just trying to figure out if TextField has a mouse over signal, or activated signal, and it seems that documentation is incomplete (I suppose because it's still being made haha) === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] [11:50] hi [11:51] bzoltan, hello :) a couple of things. I've checked out the plugin source code. Before starting to modify anything I'd like to prepare the testing environment properly. Is it already available thta PPA you were talking about with Qt 5.0.1 ? Because I checked the "qt edge" I already have, but there aren't any updates === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [12:12] Andy80: hello, the Qt 5.0.1 packages are in the qt5-beta-proper PPA [12:13] Note, that the qtc plugin branch is under development :) so changes come very often [12:59] bzoltan, ok, I remove "http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-beta1/ubuntu" then, right? === jelatta_away is now known as jelatta === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [14:47] Andy80: yes, an all the packages too from that PPA, and the /opt/qt5 from the PATH in the .bashrc [14:51] bzoltan, just finished upgrading :) /opt/qt5/ should be already in my PATH, let me check... [14:51] Andy80: it should be removed [14:52] ah [14:52] then I remove it :) [14:52] the packages from the qt5proper and qt5-beta-proper install to the correct path [14:52] bzoltan, I hope it won't conflict with /home/andrea/bbndk/bbndk-env.sh [14:52] that I use for BB10 development [14:52] Andy80: No, it will not [14:53] Andy80: but ping me if it does [14:54] ok [14:55] bzoltan, about the QtCreator source code (because if you want to compile a QtCreator plugin you need to setup a dedicated source folder where you compile the plugin and run that QtCreator istance) can I use the one available in "master" branch of gitorious? [14:56] Andy80: sure yes [14:56] ok, cool === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI [15:59] KevinWright: Hi! [16:00] Hello everybody [16:04] @qtros: are you in the RSS team? [16:04] fcrochik: Error: "qtros:" is not a valid command. [16:05] fchrochik: hello [16:08] I think we should become acquainted! [16:08] Any news? Are we already at "late Feb" enough? :P [16:09] How do we start? Who do we have here from the RSS team? [16:11] Let's wait 17:30 GMT, guys! :) [16:12] fchrochik: The meetup is still in a little bit, at 17:30 GMT [16:12] sorry fcrochik: The meetup is still in a little bit, at 17:30 GMT [16:13] but feel free to chat anyway! [16:17] I think we should wait for the whole team, and then let each say a few words about yourself [16:17] in general channel?) [16:20] frals: was the Clock app meeting today or yesterday? === XenGi_ is now known as XenGi [16:22] dmdrummond: yesterday :) [16:23] fral: I thought it was today :-( [16:23] dmdrummond: was only me, kuifei and kevin though, so i guess it was a bit confusing which day it was suppose to be [16:23] frals: I'll have to catch up in the logs. [16:24] dmdrummond: kevin was suppose to send out minutes today (havent checked private mail so maybe he did already) [16:24] or just read the logs yeah [16:28] Will we test applications on real devices on late phases? [17:03] Hey, hey are any of the E-Mai, app people here? [17:03] yeah [17:03] yep...i'm here... === EuroElessar is now known as RuslanNigmatulli === RuslanNigmatulli is now known as Ruslan [17:05] mhall119: ping! [17:05] I'm here too [17:06] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: hello all! [17:06] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: thanks for coming [17:06] hi kevin, hi everyone... [17:06] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: we should have a short conversation today just to get started [17:07] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: maybe what we can do is a short round of intros [17:07] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: I can start [17:07] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: So thanks again for coming [17:07] E-mail team have meet today? [17:07] QtRoS: yep, welcome [17:07] QtRos: just in time [17:07] No no, I am in RSS team [17:07] QtRoS: ok [17:07] I will come later, 15 min [17:07] right [17:08] Руслан, тест русского языка :) [17:08] QtRoS: I can read it [17:08] But we shouldn't speak Russian [17:08] but it's english channel, so please prefer it :) [17:08] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: I'm one of the engineering managers at Canonical and here to help with this project [17:08] It will confuse others, sure [17:09] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: I also have another colleague mhall119, who might also be here somewhere [17:09] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: He too will be one of the people involved with this project [17:09] KevinWright: applitcation development will be done in Ubuntu Desktop only? Would be there any system snapshots for real devices? [17:10] Ruslan: At some point in time there will be, but no dates yet [17:10] KevinWright: would Nokia meego devices be supported or only android-based one? [17:11] Ruslan: You'll need to wait for the public discussions about that. I don't have details. [17:11] KevinWright: ok, I'll wait :) [17:11] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: So just quickly about myself and then we can introduce everyone else [17:12] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: I've been with Canonical for a little over a year, but using Qt for several years now [17:12] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: Which is one of the reasons I am excited about this opportunity [17:13] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: Anyone else from the team a current Qt app developer in work or personal projects? [17:13] Ruslan: How about yourself? [17:13] i work on kde projects....mainly caligra suite....use Qt a lot... [17:13] pramodxyle: cool [17:14] I'm currently qutIM developer, also hack a bit Qt Build Suite and Qt mainline [17:14] AlexOstapenko_: How about yourself? [17:14] using Qt approximatly for five years [17:15] I use QML\JS in my personal projects and use Qt\C++ only in urgant cases [17:15] AlexOstapenko_: excellent [17:15] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: So let's keep it short today [17:16] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: We'll talk specifics via email and next discussion [17:16] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: Has everyone had a chance to see the project resources? [17:16] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: the wiki and so forth? [17:16] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: And a chance to install the ubuntu-sdk and components? [17:17] yep...did check out the wiki....was installing the sdk... [17:17] hm, wiki? [17:17] yep, I've already installed sdk and ubuntu-components [17:17] Ruslan: Yes, just one second [17:18] sdk is already installed of course and tried [17:18] Rruslin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPhone/CoreApps [17:18] Ruslan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPhone/CoreApps [17:18] Ruslan: And https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPhone/CoreApps/EmailClient [17:19] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: Great! [17:19] KevinWright: oh, haven't noticed that it's a wiki :) I've seen it, of course [17:19] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: OK, so there are some roughed in project details, but we should still fill in more details [17:20] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: Not today, but break down the work items [17:20] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: And brainstorm (the fun part!) [17:20] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: We can do that in our next meeting [17:21] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: And in the meantime via email or individual chats [17:21] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: Does anyone have any specific questions I can help answer? [17:21] KevinWright: is the baseline defined already or all libraries/frameworks is an subject of change? [17:21] Ruslan: There will be change but was there something specific you were wondering about? [17:22] Ruslan: Not everything is going to change though! Some things will remain constant [17:23] I've seen the discussion about using c++ in applications in mailing list, so I wonder if it is possible/needed to implement e-mail core as QtQuick2 extension [17:23] Ruslan: We'll be using the Qt framework as much as possible, and specifically focus as much on the declarative approach [17:23] that looks like a bit overhead [17:24] or all technical details is better to discuss in mailing list? [17:25] Ruslan: You can discuss here [17:25] Ruslan: We obviously want the UI to be QML/QtQuick [17:25] Ruslan: And do as much as possible in a declarative way [17:25] Ruslan: As much as it makes sense [17:26] Ruslan: But some things that isn't possible obviously [17:26] All work with network will be done with C++ [17:26] Hello there any one been able to get dconf-qt to work on qt5 ? [17:26] KevinWright: thanks, one more question [17:26] sorry for totally crashing your meeting - but what about account management? is it part of email app or a system wide thing? [17:26] Ruslan: Sure [17:27] frals: good question. I'll poke someone and find out [17:27] KevinWright: where all messages/account information is thought to be stored? [17:27] wait there is a meeting going on right now ? ..... [17:27] Ruslan: I think that is the same question as frals [17:28] Ruslan, frals: let me find out the specifics. I think I know the answer but want to onfirm it with someone first. [17:28] onfirm == confirm [17:28] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: OK, we are in just the final few minutes of the scheduled talk. Any final thoughts for today? I know it was a bit rushed. [17:29] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: We can pick it up again another day and via email [17:30] yep...sure...in the next meeting we can probably have specific technical stuff discussed... [17:30] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: OK, if not I would like to thank you for this quick intro meeting. As I mentioned we can get into more specific project details in the next discussions [17:30] pramodxyle: yes [17:30] Ruslan, pramodxyle, AlexOstapenko_: OK thanks again everyone. Looking forward to working with you! [17:31] KevinWright: good like :) [17:31] * luck [17:31] Thank you, Kevin ! [17:31] KevinWright: thanks kevin...:) thanks everyone...! [17:31] Hey, are the RSS App people here too? [17:32] he he, the queue :) [17:32] :) [17:32] Ruslan: yep, back to back :) [17:33] I am in RSS team [17:33] QtRoS: Hi! [17:33] KevinWright: Hello Kevin === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ [17:34] QtRoS, VladimirMoolle: Thanks for coming [17:34] Anyone else for the RSS App talk? [17:35] QtRoS, VladimirMoolle: Maybe you saw the previous thread for the Email client [17:35] QtRoS, VladimirMoolle: I asked if everyone saw the resources [17:35] QtRoS, VladimirMoolle: And intalled Qt5 + Ubuntu components [17:35] QtRoS, VladimirMoolle: Did everything go OK with those? [17:36] My name is Roman, I am from Russia, Qt developer about 4 years, QML experience about 1.5 years, already tried toolkit and partially ported MeeGo app. [17:36] KevinWright: so all is ok ;) [17:37] QtRoS: Cool! [17:38] QtRoS: VladimirMoolle is just joining us [17:38] QtRoS: thanks for the quick intro [17:38] yep, I'm here [17:38] QtRoS, VladimirMoolle: I'll do my intro now too [17:38] KevinWright: yep [17:39] QtRoS, VladimirMoolle: So I joined Canonical about a year ago, but have been with Qt technology for several years now, including my time at Nokia [17:39] my intro is short: I'm interested in harcore QML practice [17:39] QtRoS, VladimirMoolle: I'm excited to be able to use QML/QtQuick targeting mobile devices again [17:39] har[d]core :) [17:39] VladimirMoolle: you're in the right place then! [17:40] well, I was hoping to try Qt5 on Nexus7 [17:40] :) [17:40] VladimirMoolle: Maybe you can tell us about yourself a bit. Do you use Qt and QML in everyday life? [17:40] It's cool, rly cool! [17:40] until found out that flashing roms could irrevertibly hard-brick the device === XenGi_ is now known as XenGi [17:40] VladimirMoolle: where are you from? :) [17:41] well, I'm telecommuting as a contractor to an US-based firm [17:41] (I'm from Saint Petersburg) [17:41] QtRoS, VladimirMoolle: I should practise Russian maybe! [17:41] those russian programers are pretty good! [17:41] QtRoS, VladimirMoolle: (I don't actually know any Russian) [17:41] nOStahl: thx! ) [17:41] [esp when they hit the Ballmer peak, hehe] [17:42] the main technology here is Qt (and QMLQ) [17:42] (QML) [17:42] KevinWright: I will teach you in free time!) [17:42] QtRoS, VladimirMoolle: So today I just wanted a chance to meet quickly and have an intro. Plus wondering if there were project questions I can answer before more formal discussions and coding starts. [17:42] QtRoS: thanks! [17:43] QtRoS, VladimirMoolle: We can talk about the project work details in the next meeting, including planning work items and so forth [17:43] I'm currently involved in writing in-depth documentation on QML (primarily for internal use), and thus have time to investigate things in detail [17:44] VladimirMoolle: Cool [17:44] (imagine russian coders in a stone wall leaky basement with a single hanging candescent lightbulb that flickers above them with their workstation made out of random computer components nailed to a wooden board- furiously coding away on a keyboard that is bare buttons with no top cover to hold the keys in) [17:44] russian coders = dedicated determined :P [17:44] damn, if we did handouts, you would see 3/4 of that in my case [17:45] nOStahl: stop it! Or my bear will eat you! [17:45] I'm amidst a room under reconstruction [17:45] and my main box is built from random components [17:45] oh did I mention that russian programers still find time to pump the iron and are built like tanks despite sitting behind a keyboard all hours of the night :P [17:45] (case half-open and 12 yeasr old, etc) [17:45] VladimirMoolle: That sounds like a scene out of the movie Brazil === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ [17:46] what is going on on this channel today ? I can not find any info about what this is ? [17:46] damn, and my dumbells are 2 meters from me (and the main box has a sport bench instead of a chair) [17:46] not on the fridge ect [17:46] no kidding, guys [17:46] QtRoS, VladimirMoolle: So we have just a few minutes remaining [17:46] nOStahl: you again right, look at me ) http://cs316629.userapi.com/v316629832/111d/ZunTWe911Q4.jpg [17:47] QtRoS, VladimirMoolle: Any questions I can answer here, or should we wrap up the official talk early? [17:47] N9 \o/ [17:47] ok, I'll try to install the sdk and run the branch I got from bazaar [17:47] VladimirMoolle: Let me know how it goes [17:47] KevinWright: ok, trying too [17:47] btw, Brazil movie (if we speaking of Gilliam's one) [17:47] QtRoS: Alright cool [17:48] is probably my most fav one [17:48] QtRoS, VladimirMoolle: That's the one [17:48] the uncut edition watches like a (bad) dream [17:48] VladimirMoolle: Your description earlier of your room I imagined the apartment with the broken air con [17:48] I remmoved the inner windows, and have no air coond here [17:49] so I just open the window to get some fresh air from time to time [17:49] VladimirMoolle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dht_3NziwSw [17:49] KevinWright: I'm sorry, when will you be able to answer storage/account info question? [17:50] Ruslan: I'll try to get back to your tomorrow [17:50] KevinWright: next meeting/mail list? [17:50] KevinWright: ok [17:50] Ruslan: I just want to make sure I have the exact specific details [17:50] QtRoS, VladimirMoolle: OK guys thanks for meeting today. Let's wrap up the official meeting and in the next discussion go into more specific project details! [17:51] KevinWright: please, say RSS reader app bzr name [17:51] ok, so, Kebin, yiou'll ping us via mail when the nect meeting is about to happen? [17:51] Ke[v]in, sry [17:51] QtRoS: hold on a second and I'll fetch it [17:51] VladimirMoolle: Yes I'll ping you by mail [17:52] KevinWright: also, are there any suggestions about imap/pop3 library to use or it's implementation have to be written from the scratch? [17:52] QtRoS: You can find many project details here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPhone/CoreApps/EmailClient [17:52] KevinWright: ubuntu-rssreader-app [17:52] KevinWright: sry for dummy question [17:52] ok, just watched that clip, yeah, DeNiro wanted the main role, but had to play that one :) [17:52] KevinWright: DO you know when the file manager team is meeting? [17:52] QtRoS: sorry wrong link [17:53] KevinWright: no need already, thx! [17:53] can someone point me to the mailing list? [17:54] haha QtRoS crazy russian coder still finds time to work out [17:54] a tad limited on my searching abilities atm [17:54] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPhone/CoreApps/DevelopmentGuide [17:54] that page has most of the useful data like mailing lists [17:55] then there are irc logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/13/%23ubuntu-phone.html [17:55] :) [17:55] very cool [17:55] didn't know there were the irc logs [17:55] yeah but it turns out this channel was dead upto yesterday [17:56] I went through past two weeks of logs and nothing interesting [17:56] yesterday's log does have the clock and calender meeting though [17:57] dmd : Yes I think it started yesterday [17:57] bzoltan, do you know if there is any plains to port dconf-qt to qt5 or box2d or tiles or amy of the qmlarcade stuff ? [17:57] yeah I have had this channel open for quite a while, and all the activity seemed to start up yesterday morning or so [17:57] KevinWright: any idea when the file manager team is meeting? [17:58] n0Stahl >> e never forget about working out here, and I must say, I'm somehat bulkier (cause older and had more time to train :) :) ) [17:58] [w]e [17:58] dmd: let's talk in the private channel a moment [17:58] err, I'm new to irssi. [17:58] Is there a private channel already open? [17:59] dmd: I pinged you there [17:59] click on a person's name for that [17:59] dmd: that's ok [17:59] KevinWright: Thank you for meeting! Good bye! I am awaiting email with new details! [17:59] QtRoS: thanks again [18:05] dosent matter what I say as I am not sure that you can see this. But also wondering about the status of Ub1 in the components [18:06] KevinWright: sorry I missed the clock-app meeting yesterday, I thought it was today ;) [18:08] Riussi_: No problem at all [18:11] watch this I will make all them apps in a day [18:11] think I am messing around watch and see what happens [18:11] READY, SET, GO! [18:12] but to be fair I do not think leaving the coreapps to the comunnity is a cost or effort saving tactic [18:13] I think they want to bootstrap the community with competent developers [18:21] email app now has gmail plugin woops [18:21] oops? [18:22] you all have used the qml automotive playgtound before ? [18:22] playground === lpotter-bris is now known as lpotter [18:23] http://qt-project.org/wiki/In-vehicle_Infotainment_Demo [18:23] isn't that old and from qml1? [18:24] not hard to port [18:25] find . -name '*.qml' -exec sed -i "s|import\ QtQuick\ 1.0|mport\ QtQuick\ 2.0|g" {} \; [18:25] er wrong place [18:25] handy command though :) [18:25] yeah [18:26] lol now I have a bunch of mport QtQuick 2.0 :/ [18:26] whoops [18:26] opos [18:26] more sed [18:26] sed -e 's/^mport/import/' should fix that [18:26] yup [18:26] "Now you have two problems" [18:26] lol [18:30] dang it this compents is so touchey [18:30] warning: Cannot tie this documentation to anything [18:30] [I found a /*! ... */ comment, but there was no topic command (e.g., '\fn', '\page') in the comment and no function definition following the comment.] [18:32] I will try qt5-beta-proper [18:36] ping KevinWright [18:39] bobweaver: I do not have such plans, but it does not mean these should not be ported [18:40] bzoltan, would be cool can connect to bus stuff IE unity but I am having troubles with METaQbject :? [18:40] I guess could just make a proxy model ? [18:40] dmd: just came to my mind... did you know that that best selling File Manager application for N9 was written in QML, and the developer's name is Juhapekka Piiroinen? :) [18:41] mhall119: ^ [18:41] box2d and tilied would be cool for making 2d games :) [18:41] tiles * [18:44] bzoltan, if you would like to give tiles and box2d here is a simple mario bros that I hacked up after taking 2 different marios and making them one (needs alot of work but is good example ) https://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+junk/mario_mockup [18:44] bobweaver: thanks, I will check it out [18:44] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwc4sn_RYZk [18:45] that is video but lag is due to gstreamer [18:47] bzoltan: nope I did not know that. Is he working on the file manager? [18:47] dmd: no :) he is not... he is working my team on the SDK [18:47] bzoltan, Question: what do I use for translations on say something from a XmlRole ? or some other variable ? Thanks :) [18:48] I dont think that qsTr(some.function) [18:48] is going to work [18:48] bzoltan: oh cool, does he know if QML's javascript is enough for basic file system manipulation or will it require a c++ plugin? Basic functionality is my today's todo task [18:49] dmd: requires C++ [18:49] ajalkane: thank you that saves me some research [18:49] bobweaver: I would check out the QtQuick.XmlListModel [18:49] filelistmodel [18:49] works ok ^ [18:50] cool: https://projects.developer.nokia.com/backuptogo/browser/qml/FileBrowser.qml?rev=12 [18:50] bzoltan, let me make you a example file so you can see what I am talking about [18:50] dmd: Sure he does know. There is no file system or IO APIs in QML ... but sure it would come handy for many other applications. [18:51] ok now I am confused. Will filelistmodel be enough to display files? [18:51] bobweaver: Sure. You can drop a mail to the mailing list ... I am planning to close this day... it is 9pm here :) [18:52] bzoltan, like this [18:52] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1645584/ [18:52] where in the compent there is fileName how to make that function translatable ? or is that all local stuff [18:53] Line 62 ^^ [18:54] bzoltan: if I would like to suggest a feature (something like android's intent system), where would I do this? [18:57] dmd, you can use example above if you like change the hard coded (/home/joseph/Music ) part http://imagebin.org/246600 there is also a Flipen great example of how to use and amake a file manager in qml2 with filelistmodel in the Garth stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMRln8FJvKc [18:58] https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtmultimedia/trees/master/examples/video/qmlvideofx [19:00] bobweaver: thank you! [19:00] there is a 2 c++ files I think I am not sure [19:02] Hello, [19:02] Any documentation about the native libraries allowed for development usage? [19:24] Ok this is not working what happened to the ui components stuff ? [19:25] keeps on removing all my qt4 stuff also I get this error when trying to compile [19:25] /usr/share/qt5/bin/qmake [19:25] sh: 1: /usr/bin/qdoc: not found [19:25] But it is installed [19:25] I have tried using both the stagging and the reg ppa and I get dep issues so I override and still nothing [19:26] I have tried to package it up myself and tried 4 different versions of qmake [19:26] still nothing === DanielDressler is now known as dmd2 [19:27] see http://imagebin.org/246610 [19:29] your qdoc is missing? [19:29] I have tried both proper and beta proper [19:29] what does find / -name qdoc [19:29] find? [19:29] dmd, naw it is there it is make file or something [19:30] whereis even finds it [19:30] oh well I really did not have an idea in the first place [19:30] I am updating and upgrading maybe there is something that I am missing [19:30] so it is not a problem with qdoc? [19:31] my one says /opt/qt5/bin/qdoc [19:31] I don't know, if you forced an install things will be odd [19:31] I do know that it just removed all my qml4 stuff. Not to happy about that [19:31] If /usr/bin/qdoc is not found it's pretty clear that's the problem. Check permissions at least [19:31] wastrel: I think that was the old install location before the "proper" ppa [19:32] i just followed the instructions on the site [19:32] yeah it through me for a loop [19:32] Also check the the script file where that command is called [19:32] they changed the instructions without any fan-fair [19:32] thus all the online stackoverflow help is outdated and a bit dangerous [19:33] yeah I got like 3 of them installed all not under /usr/bin lol [19:33] i seem to also have /usr/bin/qdoc [19:34] /usr/share/qt5/5.0.0-rc1/gcc/bin/qdoc /opt/qt5/5.0.0-rc1/gcc/bin/qdoc /opt/qt5beta/bin/qdoc /opt/qt5/bin/qdoc /opt/Qt5.0.1/5.0.1/gcc/bin/qdoc [19:35] is the "proper" ppa install throwing errors? [19:35] both the proper and betaproper (alsio 12.04 32bit if helps) [19:35]