[00:04] <chilicui1> balloons: hi, I'm planning to review the netboot testcases, I've seen there is something done in http://pad.ubuntu.com/wfjvrAzFq2 and 3 Netboot testcases in the bzr repository, I'd like to work in i386 and amd64 archs, should I create new testcases for them?
[01:05] <phillw> chilicui1: you are welcome to chose what you work on :)
[01:06] <smartboyhw> Morning balloons
[01:08] <chilicui1> phillw: I want to work on those testcases, I just not sure about the numbers.., most of the testcases have a number as name.., XXX_Testcase, I'm also not sure if both archs should be done in the same testcase
[01:09] <smartboyhw> chilicui1, the numbers are their identification in the QA Tracler
[01:09] <smartboyhw> *Tracker
[01:09] <phillw> omg smartboyhw is back on, that means I should be heading to bed, except I'm talking to a guys from australia who now lives in florida... I really love UTC... It's the only time zone I can hold on to (by my finger-tips).
[01:10] <smartboyhw> phillw, LOL
[01:10] <smartboyhw> phillw, BTW you reviewed balloons' BIG BRANCH?
[01:10] <phillw> chilicui1: I've got a session booked after smartboyhw's classroom session
[01:11] <phillw> smartboyhw: oh, yes, and he has had the complaint of sending a massive amount of stuff via email to people who are not trained in the system.
[01:12] <smartboyhw> phillw, LOL
[01:12] <phillw> I'm now the official guinea pig... If I can follow the instructions, the suppoistion is that any idiot cane :)
[01:13] <phillw> *supposition*
[01:14] <smartboyhw> phillw, !?
[01:14] <phillw> I've done all of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Launchpad just need to see if the answer was correct.
[01:15] <smartboyhw> phillw, OK
[01:18] <phillw> smartboyhw: I get used as guinea pig by various teams, not just ubuntu areas.
[01:18] <smartboyhw> phillw, !?
[01:21] <phillw> smartboyhw: I am a fierce volunteer for F/OSS teams, a lot of them you do yet know. They use me as a 'lab -rat' / 'guinea pig' to test their systems with. I get banned / kicked / made admin / fully registered to new area / etc. etc.
[01:21] <smartboyhw> phillw, LOL
[01:22] <phillw> Hey, I now have a Yahoo! account, I've no idea how to register for one, one of the guys needed to see if the API worked.... It did :)
[01:27] <phillw> smartboyhw: have you got all your notes ready for your classroom session ready?
[01:40] <smartboyhw> phillw, writing:P
[01:53] <SergioMeneses> good evening
[01:53] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, phillw \o
[01:54] <smartboyhw> Hey SergioMeneses
[01:55] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, thanks for your help https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1119000
[01:55] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, my pleasure:P
[01:57] <SergioMeneses> btw smartboyhw your sessions is tomorrow, right?
[01:57] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, today (11 hours later)
[01:58] <SergioMeneses> mmmm
[03:08] <smartboyhw> phillw: Thank you now I can't even reboot
[03:08] <smartboyhw> When I reboot Ubuntu descended into snowflakes
[03:10] <smartboyhw> Need to reinstall:(
[04:59] <pitti> Good morning
[05:02] <JoseeAntonioR> hello, pitti!
[05:11] <phillw> Noskcaj: good news for your bug 1098080 :D I will keep my fingers crossed
[08:20] <dholbach> good morning
[08:22] <jibel> good morning
[08:37] <jibel> pitti, JHBuild 7 failures/160 packages. That's great to see so much progress  \o/
[08:37] <pitti> jibel: oh, 7?
[08:37] <pitti> *phew*, still 6
[08:38] <pitti> jibel: I'm desperately trying to force it to rebuild colord and gst-plugins-bad, but it seems no amount of hacking packagedb.xml and .modules gets me there
[08:38] <pitti> I'll investigate this further in a bit, we need a reliable way to just rebuild a module
[08:39] <jibel> pitti, in that case, remove the checkout
[08:39] <jibel> directory
[08:39] <pitti> jibel: ah, trying
[09:07] <vibhav> Okay, I had a look at the tests and they pass
[09:07]  * vibhav cheers
[09:43] <vibhav> pitti: Any idea how opencv tests can be performed?
[09:43] <vibhav> pitti: There is this routine in opencv which creates a window and later destroys it. Is that enough?
[09:44] <pitti> vibhav: opencv doesn't have upstream tests?
[09:44] <vibhav> pitti: Yes they do
[09:44] <vibhav> We just need to check if it is correctly installed
[09:45] <pitti> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/125064892/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-amd64.opencv_2.4.2%2Bdfsg-0exp2ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[09:45] <pitti> I don't see them run there?
[09:45] <pitti> -DBUILD_TESTS=OFF
[09:45] <pitti> --   Tests and samples:
[09:45] <vibhav> oh
[09:45] <pitti> --     Tests:                       NO
[09:46] <pitti> I think as a first step these should be enabled and run during build
[09:46] <pitti> and failed tests fail the build
[09:46] <vibhav> pitti: So I will enable tests and add a simple test, right?
[09:46] <pitti> vibhav: then for autopkgtest a simple compile/link run similar to the other ones is sufficient
[09:46] <pitti> i. e. the detailled functionality during package build, packaging and "works at all" in autopkgtest
[09:47] <vibhav> Indeed
[09:48] <vibhav> Okay, create a window destroy it.
[09:48] <vibhav> pitti: So, we need xvfb, right?
[09:48] <pitti> vibhav: maybe, I have no idea what opencv does
[09:49] <pitti> it's not a particularly relevant library for ubuntu
[09:49] <jibel> vibhav, pitti upstream testsuite of opencv doesn't seem to run at build time
[09:49] <pitti> yes, that's what I meant -- it ought to
[09:50] <vibhav> opencv: Computer Vision
[09:50] <pitti> jibel: hm, rm -rf'ing the tree also didn't help on rabisu -- it gets re-checked out, but as the topmost commit id again matches, it doesn't build it
[09:50] <pitti> damn you, jhbuild
[09:51] <pitti> in my local jhbuild I can just modify the packagedb.xml, and it gets rebuilt
[09:51] <jibel> pitti, ok looking
[09:51] <pitti> jibel: no worries, I'll continue to poke this
[09:51] <pitti> just progress report
[09:52] <jibel> well, I'd like to understand why it doesn't rebuilt
[09:52] <pitti> gnome/packages/_jhbuild/packagedb.xml and ~/jhbuild-data/jhbuild.modules changed again
[09:52] <pitti> for colord; once that works, I'll do the same with gst-bad
[09:53] <vibhav> pitti: opencv basically deals with computer vision, image recognization, etc
[09:54] <vibhav> I was reading a book on the opencv API a few days ago
[10:16] <jibel> pitti, I changed the build policy from updated-deps to all, that should help. I'm pretty sure there was a -f option to build but lost it in a battle.
[10:17] <pitti> jibel: ah, because you already figure out the changed modules during jhbuild update?
[10:17] <pitti> jibel: merci!
[10:23]  * vibhav is still fetching opencv sources
[10:28] <vibhav> pitti: The sources are ~2 GB. Since my internet is too slow for that, I cant create autopkgtests. Sorry :(
[10:29] <pitti> vibhav: no worries; as I said, not really an important package for ubuntu itself anyway
[10:29]  * vibhav hunts for libraries
[10:34] <vibhav> pitti: I was having a look at libepub. The problem here is, we need an .epub file to test it. Is that possible?
[10:35] <pitti> vibhav: you could create a simple one with e. g. calibre and add it to debian/tests/
[10:35] <pitti> vibhav: there's none in the upstream source? if it has a test suite, there ought to be one (but I guess it doesn't have tests)
[10:36]  * vibhav is taking a look
[10:38] <vibhav> pitti: Doesnt seem so
[10:50] <vibhav> pitti: Works. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1643393/
[10:51] <jibel> pitti, colord built but make check failed with a linker errro http://paste.ubuntu.com/1643403/
[10:51] <pitti> jibel: oh, I don't see it on jenkins yet
[10:52] <pitti> jibel: right, that's what I saw yesterday; I'll get that fixed with Richard
[10:56] <jibel> hm, another mystery ... too many to my taste
[11:00] <pitti> jibel: ?
[11:01] <jibel> pitti, jenkins doesn't notice all the bew builds
[11:01] <jibel> new
[11:01] <pitti> jibel: colord is there now
[11:01] <jibel> pitti, right because I clicked on the button to fetch the results, but it should have done that without my help
[11:02] <vibhav> https://code.launchpad.net/~vibhavp/ubuntu/raring/ebook-tools/add-autopkgtest/+merge/148140 \o/
[11:03] <vibhav> pitti: I have checked these locally, could you sponsor?
[11:04] <pitti> vibhav: running through VM test now
[11:04] <jibel> ok, found the problem I've eat a revision
[11:05] <jibel> pitti, jenkins checks the revno of the module from module.revno files and dertermine if it's a new build or not
[11:05] <pitti> jibel: there, I just became a colord committer :) I'll fix that this afternoon
[11:05] <pitti> jibel: oh, that is jenkins? I though that was your scripts
[11:05] <jibel> pitti, but if you restart the same module i.e a dependency changed, jenkins didn't notice
[11:05] <pitti> jibel: those in /var/log/jhbuild/ ?
[11:06] <jibel> pitti, yes
[11:06] <pitti> seems there are 4 places where the last commit ID is stored
[11:06] <jibel> pitti, so I added a timestamp so now the result file contains the commitid + timestamp
[11:06] <pitti> packagedb.xml, jhbuild.modules, /var/log/.../.status, and /var/log/.../revno
[11:06] <vibhav> From what I can see cd_mat33_set_indentify is defined in cd-math.h
[11:07] <pitti> libepub_test: libepub_test.c:9: main: Assertion `e != ((void *)0)' failed.
[11:07] <pitti> vibhav: ^
[11:07] <vibhav> Including that should fix the problem (probably)
[11:07] <jibel> pitti, state and revno are redundant IMO
[11:07] <jibel> and modules and packagedb.xml too
[11:08] <jibel> I'll see to drop the modules file
[11:08] <vibhav> pitti: That is rather strange, could you check it locally?
[11:08] <pitti> vibhav: ooh - tests are run from the source root, not from debian/tests/
[11:09] <pitti> vibhav: try epub_open("debian/tests/sample.epub", 0); ?
[11:09] <pitti> vibhav: and run debian/tests/build, not cd debian/tests && ./build
[11:10] <pitti> vibhav: also, please add a comment how you generated sample.epub, so that other people can modify it
[11:11] <vibhav> Sure
[11:20] <vibhav> pitti: Pushed changes. Could you have a look?
[11:20] <pitti> vibhav: waiting for branch to update
[11:21] <pitti> vibhav: "The epub used here is a basic recast of T.S. Eliot's "The Waste Land"" --> ooh, do I smell a copyright issue there?
[11:21] <pitti> vibhav: perhaps you could just do echo hello > hello.txt, and use ebook-convert from calibre to turn that into an .epub?
[11:22] <vibhav> sure
[11:22] <vibhav> I need to go, wil do that ASAP.
[11:22] <vibhav> will
[11:22] <vibhav> pitti: btw, I took this from http://code.google.com/p/epub-samples/ So it is legit
[11:23] <pitti> vibhav: ah, ok; please add that to a comment
[11:23] <pitti> running test again
[11:25] <vibhav> Pushed
[11:26] <pitti> meh, still a failure -- odd
[11:31] <vibhav> pitti: Should I place the epub in the root (Though that is a bit ugly)
[11:32] <pitti> vibhav: no, that should be fine; no idea why it's failing, it doesn't print an error message or so; I'll strac eit
[11:33] <vibhav> strac eit?
[11:33] <pitti> strace it, sorry
[11:33] <vibhav> ah
[11:35] <vibhav> pitti: I need to leave. Will have a look later
[11:44] <pitti> vibhav: ooh
[11:44] <pitti> vibhav: how can that possibly work for you? it does cd $WORKDIR
[11:45] <pitti> vibhav: ok, got it
[11:50] <pitti> vibhav: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/raring/ebook-tools/raring/revision/8 (for forwarding to Debian)
[11:50] <pitti> vibhav: did you see that you sent the wrong patch to libxcb debian bug?
[12:06] <smartboyhw> phillw, balloons WAKE UP:P
[12:32] <phillw> smartboyhw: I'm alive :)
[12:32] <smartboyhw> phillw, great. I'm not. I had to reinstall Ubuntu and lost all my session notes. Don't worry though, I can memorize it:P
[12:32] <smartboyhw> I'm ready
[12:33] <phillw> smartboyhw: why you no have a seperate /home partition?
[12:33] <smartboyhw> phillw, thank you: NO
[12:34] <smartboyhw> Because I don't want to spend time doing that
[12:34] <phillw> you really should make the time, it means you can re-install without losing stuff :/
[12:34] <smartboyhw> phillw, OK I will find ways to do it:)
[12:35] <smartboyhw> Now though: Let's wait for the session to start
[12:35] <smartboyhw> phillw, when do you think will balloons wake up?:P
[12:37] <phillw> he'll be along, don't worry.
[12:37] <smartboyhw> phillw, :)
[12:38] <smartboyhw> phillw, I will tell the classroom guys to voice you and balloons if I said anything wrong (for safety reasons)
[12:38] <phillw> smartboyhw: already done it, we're listed as helpers :)
[12:38] <smartboyhw> phillw, good
[12:38] <smartboyhw> Anyone we can think of that can be listed as helpers too?
[12:39] <phillw> we can voice people as / when needed. Josee is your classroom helper for the session.
[12:39] <smartboyhw> phillw, I know:)
[12:42] <smartboyhw> phillw, since Lubuntu is not going to have any LTS or Alpha 2 testing, do help out testing other flavors
[12:43] <phillw> we are in the midst of cadence testing and bug hunting :)
[12:43] <smartboyhw> phillw, do that on Friday:P
[12:44] <phillw> and I'm learning the lp stuff for manual testing writing / editing to pass onto the PPC guys so we can have meaningful (correct) tests written for PPC :)
[12:44] <smartboyhw> phillw, ah good
[13:24] <balloons2> don't forget there's a session going on in #ubuntu-classroom right now ;-)
[13:25] <smartboyhw> My session about ISO tests:)
[14:48] <smartboyhw> balloons2, BTW I will be at 14:00-15:00 UTC tmr to also help you answering the questions
[14:48] <smartboyhw> :P
[14:48] <smartboyhw> Hopefully phillw is too
[14:49] <balloons2> ahh.. cool
[14:52] <SergioMeneses> morning guys!
[14:52] <smartboyhw> Hey SergioMeneses
[14:52] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, \o
[14:53] <phillw> smartboyhw: I'll be here!
[15:17] <balloons> so, who wants to do the big merge then?
[15:17] <balloons> https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-manual-tests/massconversion/+merge/147982
[15:17] <balloons> SergioMeneses, or smartboyhw ?
[15:19] <JoseeAntonioR> balloons: I think only testcase admins can :)
[15:19] <balloons> JoseeAntonioR, yes that's correct
[15:20] <balloons> since they were kind enough to review, be cool if one of them merged
[15:20] <balloons> but even I can technically do it :-)
[15:21] <smartboyhw> balloons, I will
[15:21] <balloons> talked myself into it
[15:21] <balloons> lol
[15:22] <balloons> it's done
[15:22] <balloons> thx for looking it over
[15:22] <balloons> now to sync it all back to the tracker
[15:22] <smartboyhw> balloons, LOL
[15:42] <SergioMeneses> Im back
[15:42] <SergioMeneses> sorry balloons I can read your message
[15:42] <SergioMeneses> *cant
[15:46] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, ignore it anyway:P
[15:46] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, :O
[15:47] <cprofitt> good morning all
[15:49] <SergioMeneses> cprofitt, morning!
[15:50] <cprofitt> how is your day going SergioMeneses ?
[15:50] <SergioMeneses> it is fine :)
[15:50] <SergioMeneses> I have to send UF email to ubuntu-testing mailing list
[15:51] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, 1. it is ubuntu-quality
[15:51] <smartboyhw> 2. what is it about?
[15:51] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, you're right
[15:51] <smartboyhw> cprofitt, is it possible to join in the effort of Ubuntu Friendly without participating in meetings? It doesn't fit my time
[15:54] <cprofitt> smartboyhw: yes it is possible
[15:54] <cprofitt> we are rotating meeting times though
[15:55] <smartboyhw> cprofitt, and both doesn't fit
[15:55] <cprofitt> to give GMT-5 folks and GMT folks good times
[15:55] <cprofitt> I would think you could still participate - just make comments on the meeting minutes via the mailing list
[15:56] <smartboyhw> K
[15:57] <SergioMeneses> email sent cprofitt smartboyhw
[15:57] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, k
[15:58] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, UFT is great
[15:58] <smartboyhw> better than UF
[15:59] <SergioMeneses> I think if we have several choices is better
[16:09] <roadmr> SergioMeneses: I like UFT
[16:09] <roadmr> SergioMeneses: the icons are more ubuntuish, less "taken from stock icons website" :P
[16:10] <SergioMeneses> roadmr, :)
[16:15] <fully_human> Could someone please confirm a bug for me please? With Ubuntu 12.10 on a 64-bit machine, download the latest built of autopilot and run "autopilot vis -v".
[16:16] <SergioMeneses> fully_human, let me check
[16:16] <fully_human> SergioMeneses: Thank you. :-)
[16:17] <SergioMeneses> fully_human, are you using the daily iso?
[16:17] <fully_human> You mean the daily ISO of Ubuntu? No.
[16:17] <SergioMeneses> lol you're using 12.10 xD
[16:18] <SergioMeneses> fully_human, what is the bug?
[16:20] <fully_human> !bug 1122446
[16:20] <fully_human> I'm trying to fix it myself. :)
[16:20] <balloons> fully_human, ohh.. I think thomi  was saying he was on that?>
[16:20] <balloons> ping alesage
[16:21] <balloons> ohh.. he's not in the channel
[16:21] <fully_human> Darn...
[16:21] <balloons> fully_human, that said, your running from the ppa yes?
[16:21] <balloons> let me see if it still affects me in raring
[16:21] <fully_human> balloons: Yes. I've combined my ppa and thomi's ppa.
[16:22] <fully_human> I also have thomi's ppa.
[16:22] <balloons> fully_human, it does work for me on raring atm
[16:22] <fully_human> Hm...okay, I'll try it in Raring. I suppose I shouldn't worry if it doesn't work in Quantal?
[16:23] <balloons> well, it's still an issue obviously :-)
[16:23] <balloons> but i'm glad it's working on raring
[16:23] <SergioMeneses> maybe you can comment about it works on raring
[16:24] <balloons> SergioMeneses, https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1121659
[16:24]  * SergioMeneses is installing autopilot on 12.10
[16:24] <balloons> in general, it's been best to be on raring for autopilot stuff.. folks like dkessel and others just use a vm of raring
[16:24] <balloons> if needed
[16:25] <SergioMeneses> perfect
[16:26] <ssbob> so is autopilot installed by default on raring (daily)? I tried to do an autopilot test but could not find the binary for it.
[16:26] <balloons> the tests (for unity, heh) are installed by default
[16:26] <balloons> I don't believe ap is installed
[16:26] <ssbob> ok so an apt-get is needed, got it.
[16:27] <balloons> yea.. apt-get install python-autopilot
[16:27] <balloons> don't need a ppa for raring anymore actually.. as thomi and crew have everythng dropping in raring on a regular basis
[16:27] <balloons> I've still got it installed, but ;-) Things are still moving along nicely
[16:37] <fully_human> balloons: Yeah, I was wondering if bugg 1121659 was related.
[16:37] <fully_human> *bug
[16:37] <balloons> well, that was all I experienced
[16:38]  * vibhav wonders if a autopkgtest for autopkgtest is possible
[16:38] <balloons> vibhav, :-)
[16:39] <balloons> we need tests for the testing tools!
[16:39] <balloons> pitti,^^  are there such things for autopkg?
[16:39] <vibhav> It should be possible.
[16:39] <fully_human> The only thing we need is for apport to have a bug in it. :-)
[16:40] <vibhav> I heard you like autopkgtest, so we created an autopkgtest for autopkgtest so you can test while you test
[16:44] <fully_human> vibhav: Ha ha ha ha.
[16:47] <balloons> there he is
[16:47] <balloons> alesage, fully_human fire away.. fully_human found another issue with autopilot vis on quantal
[16:47] <balloons> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1122446
[16:48] <alesage> hi, sorry flaky internets balloons :/
[16:49]  * alesage clicks
[16:51] <vibhav> fully_human: :)
[16:56] <alesage> balloons, fwiw not able to reproduce that autopilot vis bug here, log looks interesting though
[16:56]  * SergioMeneses is back
[16:56] <balloons> ahh.. really odd
[16:56] <balloons> fully_human, what version of autopilot you running?
[19:13] <ssbob> Question: when running through the "Post-Installation Tests in Ubuntu Desktop amd64 for Raring Daily" one of the tests is to check the clock/timezone and compare it to what I set it to during install. They differ, however I am unsure what package the time/clock settings are under, to properly file a bug. Any thoughts/
[19:13] <balloons> ssbob, ohh they differ
[19:13] <balloons> nice!
[19:14] <ssbob> yeah I set it to Dallas, TX (Central) and when I open it up after install, I see Los Angeles (Pacific) ... slightly different :)
[19:15] <balloons> well, ssbob I sure xnox will love us for it.. but I think I might start with ubiquity on this one
[19:16] <ssbob> that was my first guess, but wanted to hit up the experts first.
[19:16] <xnox> ssbob: is it the same timezone or different? (e.g. is the time in Dallas same as in LA?)
[19:16] <ssbob> I figure because Dallas, TX is not a pre-defined element in the list like Chicago, Los Angeles, etc.
[19:17] <ssbob> nope, Dallas is Central, LA is Pacific
[19:17] <ssbob> 2 hours difference
[19:17] <ssbob> I can get GMT offsets if that helps
[19:17] <balloons> xnox, yes.. the 2 hour difference really confuses things
[19:17] <xnox> ssbob: please file the bug with seveirity high
[19:17] <ssbob> understood
[19:17] <xnox> ssbob: if you can using $ ubuntu-bug ubiquity from the installed machine
[19:18] <balloons> ^^ yes
[19:19] <ssbob> do you want me to send in the report, and also file a bug?
[19:19] <balloons> yes, file the bug report
[19:19] <balloons> then submit a result and reference the bug
[19:19] <ssbob> ok
[19:30] <ssbob> bug 1124432 posted, I do not see where I can change the severity anywhere though.
[19:30] <TheLordOfTime> bugcontrol can
[19:30] <TheLordOfTime> xnox, you said this is severity: high?
[19:30]  * TheLordOfTime is at the bug
[19:32] <xnox> TheLordOfTime: yes high.
[19:32] <thomi> Hi - I'm trying to fix bug #1122446, but I can't reproduce it. I wonder if anyone in here can?
[19:32] <balloons> thomi, alesage couldn't etheir
[19:32] <balloons> fully_human was having the issue
[19:32] <balloons> best to leave him a bug comment on it I think
[19:33] <TheLordOfTime> xnox, ssbob: Bug 1124432, Severity/Importance = High
[19:33] <TheLordOfTime> done
[19:33] <thomi> balloons: do you know what timezone he's in?
[19:33] <thomi> balloons: I have a branch that has extra logging added, I was hoping I could get him to run it
[19:33] <balloons> europe somewhere  I think
[19:33] <thomi> balloons: oh :)
[19:33] <thomi> ok
[19:33] <balloons> not positive
[19:33] <thomi> will comment on the bug then :)
[19:33] <balloons> :-)
[19:33] <thomi> thanks for your help
[19:33] <balloons> ty!
[19:41] <thomi> balloons: BTW, not sure if you guys realised, but the AP docs online (http://unity.ubuntu.com/autopilot/) have been updated, so the API section now shows correctly
[19:41] <balloons> yes
[19:41] <thomi> cool
[19:41] <balloons> been that way for a bit..  I noticed right away :-)
[19:41]  * thomi goes back to work
[19:41] <thomi> I just noticed :)
[19:41] <thomi> we're trying to get it so the docs update automatically on every release
[19:45] <balloons> that would be sweet
[19:46] <balloons> hey Letozaf_
[19:46] <Letozaf_> hello balloons
[19:46] <Letozaf_> howzit ?
[19:46] <balloons> good
[19:47] <balloons> ok, so I'm going to try something
[19:47] <Letozaf_> balloons, what ?
[19:47] <balloons> gonna sync back the updates from the manual tests project to the tracker
[19:47]  * balloons crosses fingers
[19:47]  * Letozaf_ crosses fingers too
[19:47] <Letozaf_> :D
[19:48]  * TheLordOfTime yawns randomly
[19:50] <balloons> looks good
[19:50] <Letozaf_> balloons, where .. what..
[19:51] <TheLordOfTime> balloons, so, i did some digging into why the one LiveUSB failed to update/install that first time, and I uncovered something I didn't expect to see: in the process of attempting to update, the system used up all the LiveUSB's disk space for the downloads of updated software
[19:51] <TheLordOfTime> which caused the fail/error
[19:52] <balloons> ohh nice~
[19:52] <balloons> Letozaf_,
[19:52] <balloons> http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/
[19:52] <balloons> eg, http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/256/builds/37167/testcases/1415/results
[19:52] <balloons> looks different eh?
[19:53] <ssbob> I see what you did there balloons, looks good.
[19:53] <balloons> and the nautilus case got updated
[19:53] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes looks good
[19:53] <balloons> anyways.. syncing the rest now
[19:55] <balloons> k, this is the rest of them.. should close 3 bugs
[19:55] <Letozaf_> balloons, is there something to sync for laptop testing?
[19:55] <balloons> Letozaf_, no, we redid those with SergioMenses originally in the right format
[19:56] <Letozaf_> balloons, oh right! forgot it :P
[19:59] <balloons> sweet.. everything looks great
[19:59] <balloons> this is lovely
[20:00] <Letozaf_> balloons, you sound happy :-D
[20:00] <balloons> yes.. having everything in lp and easy to contribute to is great
[20:01] <balloons> and the full circle has happened since the sync works both ways really nicely
[20:01] <Letozaf_> balloons, great job!
[20:09] <Letozaf_> balloons, I'm carrying out laptop test now, but the in the testcases you have Banshee music player instead of Rythmbox, is that ok ?
[20:11] <balloons> ohh?
[20:11] <balloons> which one?
[20:11]  * balloons notes he makes people fix mistakes they see in tests now
[20:11] <balloons> :-p
[20:39] <Letozaf_> balloons, you there ?
[20:43] <balloons> Letozaf_, yes
[20:43] <Letozaf_> balloons, I was testing on the laptop tracker and
[20:43] <Letozaf_> balloons, http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1476/info
[20:43] <Letozaf_> balloons, this testcase talks about Banshee
[20:44] <Letozaf_> balloons, isn't the default music player Rythmbox ?
[20:44] <balloons> Letozaf_, would you like to submit a fix?
[20:44] <balloons> :-0
[20:45] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok
[20:45] <Letozaf_> balloons, :P
[20:45] <balloons> phillw, can you please add a link for the logs from section 3 here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom
[20:46] <balloons> Letozaf_, I can fix, but I think it would be good for you to do a quick fix for it
[20:46] <balloons> you know how?
[20:47] <Letozaf_> balloons, I suppose you use lp now, so I have to use bzr right?
[20:47] <Letozaf_> Letozaf_, just like autopilot tests
[20:47] <balloons> yes
[20:47] <balloons> exactly
[20:47] <balloons> https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/
[20:47] <balloons>  bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual-tests
[20:47] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok fine
[20:47] <balloons> awesome.. I'll even review and push it in for you
[20:48] <balloons> thanks Letozaf_ !
[20:48] <Letozaf_> balloons, you're welcome ! :P
[21:00] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok I proposed a merge
[21:01] <Noskcaj> next time smartboyhw is on can someone tell him testdrive isn't a VM.
[21:03] <Noskcaj> is ubuntu meant to go straight to a live session?
[21:05] <Noskcaj> it seems there was an ubiquity crash, similar to what lubuntu had around alpha 1 time
[21:06] <SergioMeneses> hi guys!
[21:06] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, hey
[21:07] <SergioMeneses> Noskcaj, jeje ok
[21:07] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, \o
[21:07] <Noskcaj> hey SergioMeneses
[21:10] <Noskcaj> bug 1124523
[21:12] <Noskcaj> is the above bug a copy of bug 1123798
[21:13] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, this happened to you testing on a VM ?
[21:13] <Noskcaj> in Vbox4.2
[21:13] <Noskcaj> via testdrive
[21:14] <Noskcaj> as well as a colord-sane bug that went private immediately
[21:14] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, maybe I can try on my laptop, just to see if it happens also on real hardware
[21:15] <Noskcaj> thanks, and if possible, confirm it happens in i686, if you can't i will later.
[21:15] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, it happened to you on amd64 right ?
[21:17] <SergioMeneses> I had the same problem Noskcaj
[21:18] <Noskcaj> Letozaf_, yep.
[21:21] <balloons> yes, why wouldn't it boot to the live session?
[21:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, I think Noskcaj_School means that the installer instead of asking "try ubuntu" or "install ubuntu" goes directly to the live session
[21:24] <balloons> OHHH
[21:24] <balloons> Noskcaj_School, be as descriptive as possibly buddy..
[21:25] <balloons> Letozaf_, merged your stuff
[21:25] <balloons> pushing it now
[21:27] <balloons> ta-da! http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/257/builds/37412/testcases/1476/results
[21:28] <Letozaf_> balloons, thanks
[21:29] <Letozaf_> balloons, magic!
[21:30] <SergioMeneses> I cant get it, balloons what did you merge?
[21:30] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, ↑↑↑
[21:30] <SergioMeneses> results?
[21:30] <balloons> pushed a minor update
[21:30] <balloons> it still said banshee, not rythmnbox
[21:31] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, jeje :D
[21:32] <SergioMeneses> balloons, no
[21:32] <SergioMeneses> "Verify that the files it contains are displayed within Rythmbox"
[21:33] <SergioMeneses> I dont see banshee there
[21:33] <Letozaf_> balloons, you made me sweat, thought I wrote Rythmbox wrong
[21:33] <SergioMeneses> vibhav, really? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mars
[21:33] <SergioMeneses> jajajaja
[21:33] <Letozaf_> balloons, I went to check
[21:34] <balloons> ubuntu-mars
[21:34] <balloons> <3
[21:35] <Letozaf_> balloons, but is it a sort of joke ?
[21:35] <Letozaf_> balloons, the ubuntu-mars thing
[21:35] <SergioMeneses> Im working on loco-council things and I saw "ubuntu-mars wants to join"
[21:36] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, but what is ubuntu-mars ?
[21:36] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mars
[21:37] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, ok a joke!
[21:37] <balloons> bah.. screencasting is hating on me
[21:37] <SergioMeneses> balloons, why?
[21:37] <balloons> lol, it's not working
[21:37] <balloons> not picking up my mic
[21:38] <Letozaf_> balloons, you could try a mic from mars lol
[21:38] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I had the same issue when I recorded my autopilot video
[21:38] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_,  hehehehe
[21:38] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, ok I will be serious now!
[21:38] <Letozaf_> :D
[21:39] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj_School, the i386 ISO is taking long to zsync...
[21:39] <balloons> yea
[21:39] <balloons> I use kazam, but it's acting weird
[21:39] <balloons> :-(
[21:41] <SergioMeneses> balloons, no no
[21:42] <SergioMeneses> use record my desktop, it is better (imho)
[21:42] <balloons> not so much for me
[21:42] <balloons> so found a bug, I'll file it
[21:42] <balloons> but I made it work
[21:42] <balloons> no spamming my name now, else you'll end up in the broadcast! :-p
[21:44] <SergioMeneses> ok ubuntu-mars people sorry but your team is not a loco team :S
[21:57] <Letozaf_> balloons, I wanted to help Noskcaj_School with his bug, but it's getting late for me do you think I should write him a mail that I could help him tomorrow night ?
[21:57] <balloons> NO!!!
[21:57] <balloons> llol
[21:57] <balloons> the popup :-)
[21:58] <balloons> Letozaf_, yes, he won't be around till your tomorrow
[21:58] <balloons> :-)
[21:58] <balloons> best to not stay up late waitng
[21:58] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok fine!
[22:04] <Letozaf_> 'night guys, going to bed see you tomorrow!
[22:05] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, good night
[22:38] <phillw> balloons: the classroom guys added the logs, they used a different system to you in so far as they put the link as the title of the classroom instead of 'logs here'. I do think it looks better and suggest we do the others in the same style. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom#Section_3
[22:39] <balloons> phillw, if there's a nice archive somewhere sure
[22:40] <balloons> but I'd like to share the logs with everyone again
[22:40] <phillw> click on the 'zsync' in classroom title, and you will get the logs :)
[22:41] <phillw> we just need to add a line at the top letting people know that they just need to click on  the session of their choice to get the logs :)
[22:44] <balloons> phillw, edit away my friend
[22:47] <phillw> balloons: I presume our human classbot ;) did the edit for the logs, he asked me for the links on -backstage. I do think it looks & works well :)
[22:48] <phillw> I'll also edit it to state that the VBox session will be run once a couple of outstanding gremlins are resolved.
[22:51] <SergioMeneses> phillw, awesome! can we get the others logs?
[22:53] <phillw> SergioMeneses: they are listed at the top of the top of the session areas, I'll be editing the wiki page to use the system that Josee used for section 3.
[22:53] <phillw> -of the top !
[22:54] <SergioMeneses> phillw, :o perfect! I'll check it as soon as possible
[22:54]  * SergioMeneses is studying =/
[23:24] <phillw> balloons: all done, the -backstage crew told me how to split the logs :)